I have to say that this is the best detailing channel out there... Certainly some may disagree but Brian is so honest and straightforward when reviewing products. The demonstrations are top notch. I for one truly value his opinion... I've been detailing for approximately 25yrs and I always learn something new from Brian..
Apex Detail is my sole source of detailing information. I was sick of the objective reviews on the forums and amazon... Watching his vids, I get a better idea of how products compare, what is hyperbole, and learn technique too. It's a great source of information.
I’ve gotten the best gloss results from Sonax PF by using a slower pass 3.5-4 speed initially and finishing with a higher pass 5.5-6 speed to take advantage of the two stages of that product. Amazing gloss with that approach.
Perfect Finish is my do-all. The initial cut, the finishing properties, the minimal dusting....I rarely find myself reaching for anything else except maybe a different pad depending on paint hardness.
Thanks for the update, Brian. Your test results concur with a number of other detailers, who have chosen Sonax Perfect Finish as the best. I've used it on my cars and love the results. Keep up the great work.
I feel it is safe to say that Brian (Bryan?) Is what is known as a legit professional. In this day & age with social media etc. Everyone is a professional ( just ask them, they'll usually tell you) The honesty, transparency & above all else knowledge + skill demonstrated on this channel, are second to none. There are some great detail channels w/excellent, talented people, no question. This channel checks off each and every box imo. A legitimate focus on truth + educating! Not on selling products
What a great older comparison. Thanks man! Do a new one, this is gold! Throw in Menzerna 3800 with some of these and some new spray polishes, along with uno pure. Would be awesome!
My go to for "ultra finishing" is AAT502. I've had great success finishing out with ONE, and ACA520 as well, but 502 is excellent on the softest paint without any issues that I've come across. Honorable mentions go to: Meguiar's Ultimate Polish Jescar Micro Polish Optimum Hyper Compound If I had to choose one, AAT502.
@orthodox1717 - Not necessarily "better" but Menzerna 2500, and Jescar Medium Polish are both very strong candidates. Jescar can cut more, but the Menzerna finishes on a very wide variety of paints. I've never had the Menzerna not finish out. Meguiar's M205, M210, and Ultimate Polishes are also very strong competitors. These are different from the Menzerna and Jescar in that the abrasives do not break down, which means they can continue cutting indefinitely. Like the Menzerna 2500, the Meguiar's Ultimate Polish finishes out consistently. I've never had it not finish out. The difference is tha6 these are dedicated finishing polishes, and they SHOULD finish out! What I like about 3D ONE, I also like about Optimum Hyper Polish, and that is they don't stain trim. Hyper Polish also delivers a stunning finish.
You asked about it during the vid so I figured I’d answer… Not all of use Facebook. If I were on there though, I’d definitely be part of the group. I always enjoy your vids and learning more !
Fun video to watch! All of the products produced impressive results. The final numbers were so close that none of them were really "losers." Most recently I have used 3D One. I haven't had the opportunity to use it on anything with more than mild marring to see how good it is with a correcting pad.
A very good comprehensive shootout on some very top line polishes. Been waiting for something like this for a while. could you do a Compound shootout with the exact same brands or have you already have videos on these???? These vids save so much time for choosing the right polish/compounds and give great insight.
Thx , Bryan !! Sonax perfect Finish, still great Polish, living up to its name as a perfect Polish , although they all will get great results, appreciate the vids 👏🏽👍🏾💯
Another one I like for a very fine finish polish is Meguires Ultimate Polish. Im noy big on Meguires standard compounds and polishes but the Ultimate Polish I have found gives some of the best finishing results I have ever gotten especially with Black, or dark midnight blue metallic painted vehicles. Worth trying though I will try Sonax Perfect finish because I am a fan of Sonax products
Wow big jump in gloss with just a small polish ! Thanks for that video Brian, I was hoping Xtreme Solution will be on top but I really like the Sonax products as well.
If you went over the panel a second time with the same polishes, would the gloss level improve further? I'm wondering if these are the best results each product can achieve, of if they can all reach the same level if you do enough passes?
Hi Brian, another great and informative review! how come carpro reflect is not in this head to head with the sonax. I know you have the sonax in another video heat to head with m302, thanks.
I've used them all but the Xtreme Solutions. When ACA520 runs out I probaby won't replace it. I sold the Koch and Sonax. Koch was too close to my old Menzerna SF4000, and Jescar Micro Polish. Perfect Finish dusted and clogged pads. The AAT502 and Optimum Hyper Polish, and Meguiar's Ultimate Polish are still here.
KC M302, Sonax Perfect Finish, and Nv Finesse are my favorites. If I had to pick one, Sonax Perfect finish because of no dusting and very easy wipe off. Great finish, too, obviously.
So crazy the different user experiences with Perfect Finish. Dusts a lot for me. Look at any UA-cam video from Esoteric where they are polishing cars and their cars are covered in dust. They primarily use and promote Perfect Finish.
Been using a lot of 3D compounds and foam cannon wash now for awhile. Not to crazy about their pads as durability is not that great with them. But there 500 and 510 cutting compound and 502 and 520 polished have given me excellent results with chemical guys hexlogic pads. Chemical guys sure make some great long lasting pads for not being to great at making compound through my experience
That's probably because they're manufactured by Buff and Shine. At least the non Quantam pads. I love the green to cut, blue to polish, and red to finish.
@@danlc95 I have tried a lot of pads and durability is the biggest issue. Believe it or not I have had the best results with chemical guys hexlogic pads as well as shine mate diamond pads not only do they last awhile but there heavy and medium pads cut great and for polish I use a light cutting that polish great. in both brands
Excellent video.Brian. These products are all excellent. My curiosity is peaked.....can someone really tell the difference between 0.1.- 0.5 gloss units? Also, is it fair to say, an average customer regardless the type of vehicle they own will be able to tell the difference of 1.0-2.0 gloss units? Again, these are all tremendous finishing polishes. I really appreciated this comparison.
Apparently you need around 5 units to see the difference. That's what I read anyhow. So all these polishes will look the same. Comes down to user experience IMO.
There is also difference in 20* vs 60* measurements. Once you get into the 90s (or perhaps even lower) on 60* measurements you should switch 20* when measuring glossy surfaces.
Yeah the thin soft clear coats is why I’m here. I’m trying to find the finest mildest yet consistently effective product out there. I polished it once 3.5 years ago before applying a ceramic coating. I’m almost due to recoat the ceramic/graphene. I’m looking for a very fine polish to remove minimal imperfections with removing as little clear coat as possible. Really no scratches or swirls that I can see, just want to give it a once over. Appreciate any suggestions.
He echado de menos en la comparativa otros productos como Scholl concepts S40 o Carpro Reflect, que serían los equivalentes. Me gusta mucho tanto el Kock, como el Carpro Essence. Y tengo pensado probar tanto el S40 como el Reflect. Un saludo y excelente comparativa.
Very nice, I still prefer the M302 over Perfect Finish but in recent times I’ve had to go to Perfect Finish strangely when M302 had too much bite on some Uber soft paint but it might have been my pad or technique. Either way good video.
Brian, could you provide an in-depth analysis on the use of fillers thought the industry? I really don't know anything specific about them. What is the truth?
Great vid Brian! You mentioned that you were removing the fillers with the panel prep. The fillers added gloss. In previous videos, you’ve always used a panel prep to remove the oils, fillers etc before protecting (sealant, coating etc). In what instance would you NOT remove the fillers? I miss you including the shop manager lol.
Meguiar's M210 is really great !. Superb finish, good correction for a polish and no dust and wipes very easily !. M205 too, M205 has a little more cut than M210, but the finish of M210 😍
Very good and informative review mate. They are all very good. I have been wanting to try some Sonax now we can get it here in Australia. I would be interested to see Scholls S20 black, S30, Australian NV Finesse and CarPro Finisher as well. I really like to try Koch Chemi given the very impressive performance you have demonstrated using this German brand. One thing for sure is that German, US and British made products are top-notch.
As a shade tree detailer, what happens if all you have is a soft finishing pad to apply compound. will it still work? or what if you use a polishing pad to apply wax, would you get a slight paint correction while applying the wax. thank you
Some toughts: 1. Koch Chemie is not a necomer, it just has recently been introduced in the US by the Rag Company. 2. Not all fillers / polishing residue can be removed by all pabel wipes. So it could be that some of those fillers are resistant to Gyeon Prep and therefore the results could be biased, especially if we only talk about a few gloss units if difference. 3. It would be fair to mention that the differences you measured are not visible by the naked eye.
Its a new comer here...Thats all that matters to this channel. Gyeon prep is as far as we will go when it comes to panel prep. We refuse to use solvents as we know what it does to clear coat. It should be common sense and not need mentioning that results are subjective. And your last point has been mentioned numerous times on the channel on how many units it takes to be picked up by the human eye.
Good afternoon Sir, I hope you are well. I bought a new Bronco in Oxford White. I’m looking at applying a ceramic coating. What do you recommend to coat the exterior paint, the hard plastic roof, the plastic cowling? Adam’s? Gyeon Pure or Mohs? Beadlock Pro? Kamikaze ISM 3.0? Any other brands? Thank you, sir. Respectfully, Robert
Great Video I have a question maybe is dumb but I am just starting a company of detailing so my question is polish and finish polish are the same or it’s any different?
Not a finish polish question.... Actually a topper question. You've raved over Extreme Solutions Topper and also over Waxedshine Aquabead. Any thoughts on which when used as a topper would give better gloss, and which would give better protection longevity? I'm still using some old school products such as PNS , FK1000P , and lately Griot's Ceramic 3 in 1, but want a topper that will give additional gloss.
One of the best ‘topper’ products I’ve found is so easy to find. You just won’t believe it’s readily available. Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax. No joke, don’t regard it like some primary form of protection, but as a topper. Apply it after every few washes, assuming your paint is still clean. On a ceramic coated car, it absolutely amplifies the finish. It darkens dark paint and adds a lot of reflection within seconds. It’s super cheap, doesn’t leave a chalky residue, and doesn’t have to be instantly wiped-off. I’m not a fanboy. I just tried it and began looking at the product differently. And if that approach doesn’t suit you, just up your application rate on that 3-in-1. I do that on other vehicles too, and it’s a great spray to have handy. Some of the products marketed as annual-protection are really just badass toppers. Cheers.
I'm late to the party but Topper should be named Depth in a bottle. The slickness doesn't last long but the depth and gloss remains for a while. Titan is also very good. I'm experimenting with Cerakote rapid ceramic spray as a topper on the hood. It's the most hydrophobic spray I've used under $50 and it cost $16 at Walmart. It wiped on and off effortlessly even in the sun on a hot panel. 3 coats is the trick.
For a soft clear ( Honda) with very light swirls mostly from towel drying even ektn a drying aid, would an orange or white lake country pad and Perfect Finish be enough to remove the swirls? I'm trying to go the least aggressive route possible.
How do you determine a finishing polish vs a one-step polish ? I understand a finishing polish (reviewed in this video) are used in a 2 step process - then why is a cutting&polishing compound like SONAX PF used as it is a disintegrating polish where it compounds/cuts first, then finishes as a polish?
My simple answer is to look at the grit level equivalent that the product says it can resolve up-to or down-to. One-steps vs AIOs differ to me in that the latter offers some protection, whereas the former tackles a range of paint issues. Products like 3D One can confuse some; it isn’t ‘automatically’ a one-step because it is pad-dependent. You determine the number of steps based upon the condition of the panel involved. If you’re looking at a polish that breaks-down as it’s used…and also has some built-in protection, it’s marketed as an AIO. I prefer if possible to really divide products by purpose so that your workflow is consistent and the product is maximized to a narrow purpose. Xtreme Solutions Knockout can blow-away 1,000-grit scratches without issue…but you better believe I’ll finish the task with a dedicated polish.
@@snail415 right now, I have no AIO in my arsenal as I’m taking the time to provide 1-step (3D One) or 2-step corrections (Griots Fast Correcting Cream + Sonax PF) to friends and family to dedicate the hours toward improvement in this specific craft. What started out as a hobby/enthusiast thing that I do for myself is slowly transitioning into something I could do as a side job! The passion is there. Thank you for your detailed response Justin. Consistent work-flow should be my focus when looking at these products, and I should definitely be organizing them to be purpose based for client scenarios.
The Sonax PF isn't that great of a cutter, which is why most people use it as a finishing polish. I believe it also contains some non diminishing abrasives too. For me, a finishing polish with a stronger pad, or a medium polish on a polishing pad can fall into the "one step" category. Anything with protection, I've gone back to calling them a "cleaner wax". 3D Speed, Meguiar's 3 in 1, Uno Protect, etc. There is too much confusion around the term "one step" between a polish and something with protection. But for your first question: I'll use Rupes Keramik Fine polish as an example. Back when I was using their line heavily I used Keramik on their original yellow microfiber pads in a "one step" situation. The pads provided a boost in cut, but also finished really well. I could have all used that for a cutting step on softer paints, and finish with the same polish - Keramik, on Rupes yellow foam to finish. However they also had their Quarz Medium that worked great on the green pads they were intended to be paired with, but Quarz also worked great with the yellow foam for even better finishing. These days I use 3D ONE for almost everything. It cuts great with Uro-Fiber pads. I'll do one steps with it on yellow Buff and Shine or orange HDO pads, but I can also finish with it on those same foam pads but with less passes, and higher arm speed. It's definitely my most versatile polish. In the instances I need more cut I switch to 3D ACA500 on the Uro-Fiber. I also keep AAT502 around for super finishing, but rarely ever need it.
great video brian. i use both the sonax and koch chem, have you used the igl f3 finishing polish and if so how do they compare tho the sonax and KC polishes.
I have a question? I just bought the new Toyota Tundra with the color cement gray and this weekend I want to polish and coated. I bought your metal oxide coating and the toper rehydra sheet. My question was for the polish with my dual action, I have Sonax perfect finish are I wanted to try extreme solution lvr 403 will it works with your coating if yes how long should I wait after the polish to doo the coating?
Esoteric found this out years ago Thanks for the video none the less. Sometimes the allure of many things only leads people on a chase. Notice how esoteric only uses a few products on multi million dollar cars. They already found what works and it’s boring
What is your favorite finish polish?
Aca 520 👍
@@404notfound..... Wait.. what?? You mean 520?
Sonax Finale
LVR 403
Been loving the sonax perfect finish. The low dusting formula with all their polished is a big one for me. Less clean up after correction.
I have to say that this is the best detailing channel out there... Certainly some may disagree but Brian is so honest and straightforward when reviewing products.
The demonstrations are top notch. I for one truly value his opinion... I've been detailing for approximately 25yrs and I always learn something new from Brian..
I appreciate that
Apex Detail is my sole source of detailing information. I was sick of the objective reviews on the forums and amazon... Watching his vids, I get a better idea of how products compare, what is hyperbole, and learn technique too. It's a great source of information.
Switching from a Chemical Guys sample pack to Sonax Perfect finish was such an insanely huge leap. Happy to see it does very well here as well.
I’ve gotten the best gloss results from Sonax PF by using a slower pass 3.5-4 speed initially and finishing with a higher pass 5.5-6 speed to take advantage of the two stages of that product. Amazing gloss with that approach.
Hey! Can you explain more in depth? I just ordered a bottle and want to try your process. Pressure?, pad choice? Thanks in advance!
Perfect Finish is my do-all. The initial cut, the finishing properties, the minimal dusting....I rarely find myself reaching for anything else except maybe a different pad depending on paint hardness.
Great! 💯
Thanks for the update, Brian. Your test results concur with a number of other detailers, who have chosen Sonax Perfect Finish as the best. I've used it on my cars and love the results. Keep up the great work.
I feel it is safe to say that Brian (Bryan?) Is what is known as a legit professional. In this day & age with social media etc. Everyone is a professional ( just ask them, they'll usually tell you) The honesty, transparency & above all else knowledge + skill demonstrated on this channel, are second to none. There are some great detail channels w/excellent, talented people, no question. This channel checks off each and every box imo. A legitimate focus on truth + educating! Not on selling products
I like the fact you measured after panel prep to show the level of filling some products perform
Thanks for making this video. In the future you should do the same number of passes for each polish.
What a great older comparison. Thanks man! Do a new one, this is gold! Throw in Menzerna 3800 with some of these and some new spray polishes, along with uno pure. Would be awesome!
urofiber 50/50 pad and 3D aca 520 is a match made in heaven... even for cars with substantial defects. Will cut and finish very nicely
Right?
I refer to ACA520 as "ONE lite"! 😂
I've used K.C. M302, and LVR 496. Both never disappointed. Fun video. Keep them coming
I love the 3D products.
501 and 502 as well as the foam pads.
I used it to polish up after I repainted the trunk.
🍻🍻🍻
My go to for "ultra finishing" is AAT502.
I've had great success finishing out with ONE, and ACA520 as well, but 502 is excellent on the softest paint without any issues that I've come across.
Honorable mentions go to:
Meguiar's Ultimate Polish
Jescar Micro Polish
Optimum Hyper Compound
If I had to choose one, AAT502.
Thanks for the feedback. Do you like anything else better than 3D ONE for a 1-step polish? Generally speaking.
@orthodox1717 - Not necessarily "better" but Menzerna 2500, and Jescar Medium Polish are both very strong candidates.
Jescar can cut more, but the Menzerna finishes on a very wide variety of paints. I've never had the Menzerna not finish out.
Meguiar's M205, M210, and Ultimate Polishes are also very strong competitors. These are different from the Menzerna and Jescar in that the abrasives do not break down, which means they can continue cutting indefinitely. Like the Menzerna 2500, the Meguiar's Ultimate Polish finishes out consistently. I've never had it not finish out. The difference is tha6 these are dedicated finishing polishes, and they SHOULD finish out!
What I like about 3D ONE, I also like about Optimum Hyper Polish, and that is they don't stain trim. Hyper Polish also delivers a stunning finish.
You asked about it during the vid so I figured I’d answer…
Not all of use Facebook. If I were on there though, I’d definitely be part of the group. I always enjoy your vids and learning more !
I like Sonax for finishing , Angelwax Perfect finish and Carpro Essence of Essence Plus for jeweling.
Fun video to watch! All of the products produced impressive results. The final numbers were so close that none of them were really "losers."
Most recently I have used 3D One. I haven't had the opportunity to use it on anything with more than mild marring to see how good it is with a correcting pad.
What I use for most of my 1 stage corrections. It's fantastic at cutting while finishing down great. With an LC orange foam pad
Have not used any of these though no dogs in in this bunch. Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Polish has been a favorite for me. Gr8 vid. Thx Brian.
AAT for the win Porce wise and result cant go wrong with that 🙂🙂😘
A very good comprehensive shootout on some very top line polishes. Been waiting for something like this for a while. could you do a Compound shootout with the exact same brands or have you already have videos on these???? These vids save so much time for choosing the right polish/compounds and give great insight.
We have some compound videos....recent as well.
I’ll save you. Just look at esoteric. They derail multi million dollar cars everyday
Jescar compound
Just the video I was looking for thank Brian
OH LET'S FRICKIN GO, been waiting for this. Bouta watch 🤪🤪🤪
thanks bryan, wish you could add uno pure on the list next time. regards
Thx , Bryan !! Sonax perfect Finish, still great Polish, living up to its name as a perfect Polish , although they all will get great results, appreciate the vids 👏🏽👍🏾💯
Another one I like for a very fine finish polish is Meguires Ultimate Polish. Im noy big on Meguires standard compounds and polishes but the Ultimate Polish I have found gives some of the best finishing results I have ever gotten especially with Black, or dark midnight blue metallic painted vehicles. Worth trying though I will try Sonax Perfect finish because I am a fan of Sonax products
It's been a favorite for over ten years now! I always have the Ultimate line on the shelf.
Wow big jump in gloss with just a small polish ! Thanks for that video Brian, I was hoping Xtreme Solution will be on top but I really like the Sonax products as well.
Deutsche Markenqualität IMMER Nr 1.
Cool video. I have SPF. Just bought AAT 502.
If you went over the panel a second time with the same polishes, would the gloss level improve further? I'm wondering if these are the best results each product can achieve, of if they can all reach the same level if you do enough passes?
Why aren’t you?!?! Love the peer pressure and aggressive nature! 😂🤘💪
Excelent video brian very helpfull thanks and hello from Mexico
Hi Brian, another great and informative review! how come carpro reflect is not in this head to head with the sonax. I know you have the sonax in another video heat to head with m302, thanks.
Uuuuuuuuuuu yeahhhhh..been waiting for this
I've used them all but the Xtreme Solutions.
When ACA520 runs out I probaby won't replace it. I sold the Koch and Sonax. Koch was too close to my old Menzerna SF4000, and Jescar Micro Polish. Perfect Finish dusted and clogged pads. The AAT502 and Optimum Hyper Polish, and Meguiar's Ultimate Polish are still here.
You read my mind! Great video 😊.
KC M302, Sonax Perfect Finish, and Nv Finesse are my favorites. If I had to pick one, Sonax Perfect finish because of no dusting and very easy wipe off. Great finish, too, obviously.
So crazy the different user experiences with Perfect Finish.
Dusts a lot for me. Look at any UA-cam video from Esoteric where they are polishing cars and their cars are covered in dust. They primarily use and promote Perfect Finish.
Been using a lot of 3D compounds and foam cannon wash now for awhile. Not to crazy about their pads as durability is not that great with them. But there 500 and 510 cutting compound and 502 and 520 polished have given me excellent results with chemical guys hexlogic pads. Chemical guys sure make some great long lasting pads for not being to great at making compound through my experience
That's probably because they're manufactured by Buff and Shine. At least the non Quantam pads. I love the green to cut, blue to polish, and red to finish.
@@danlc95 I have tried a lot of pads and durability is the biggest issue. Believe it or not I have had the best results with chemical guys hexlogic pads as well as shine mate diamond pads not only do they last awhile but there heavy and medium pads cut great and for polish I use a light cutting that polish great. in both brands
Brian, why not include pricing to help determine which is the best value?
Because you can look it up. Brian does the heavy lifting.
cost value 3d.
Nice comparison Brian 👍😁
Excellent video.Brian. These products are all excellent. My curiosity is peaked.....can someone really tell the difference between 0.1.- 0.5 gloss units? Also, is it fair to say, an average customer regardless the type of vehicle they own will be able to tell the difference of 1.0-2.0 gloss units?
Again, these are all tremendous finishing polishes. I really appreciated this comparison.
Humans cannot perceive less than 2 gloss units of difference.
Apparently you need around 5 units to see the difference. That's what I read anyhow. So all these polishes will look the same. Comes down to user experience IMO.
There is also difference in 20* vs 60* measurements.
Once you get into the 90s (or perhaps even lower) on 60* measurements you should switch 20* when measuring glossy surfaces.
Yeah the thin soft clear coats is why I’m here. I’m trying to find the finest mildest yet consistently effective product out there. I polished it once 3.5 years ago before applying a ceramic coating. I’m almost due to recoat the ceramic/graphene. I’m looking for a very fine polish to remove minimal imperfections with removing as little clear coat as possible. Really no scratches or swirls that I can see, just want to give it a once over. Appreciate any suggestions.
Excellent video as always Brian ✊
He echado de menos en la comparativa otros productos como Scholl concepts S40 o Carpro Reflect, que serían los equivalentes.
Me gusta mucho tanto el Kock, como el Carpro Essence. Y tengo pensado probar tanto el S40 como el Reflect.
Un saludo y excelente comparativa.
Very nice, I still prefer the M302 over Perfect Finish but in recent times I’ve had to go to Perfect Finish strangely when M302 had too much bite on some Uber soft paint but it might have been my pad or technique. Either way good video.
What do you like more with micro cut?
@@seabrew1 finishing properties.
@@seabrew1 I think he likes the finishing properties lol
@@sometimesvincegilligansome5802 😂
@@AmirAbdullah Uber soft BLACK paint?
Brian, could you provide an in-depth analysis on the use of fillers thought the industry? I really don't know anything specific about them. What is the truth?
I will cover them in a future video in great detail.
@@apexdetail85 Awesome!!!
Keep em coming B! Wish I could attend your training event!
Great Video
Personally I prefer
Optimum Hyper Polish
Menzerna 3800
Hope to see you in November Brian.
I look forward to it.
Great video! I've used the Xtreme Solutions Finale and have been happy with it so far!
See you in November! I'm so excited.
See you then!!
I like Adams finishing polish
That one is really nice!
The compound and polish videos may be my favorite. I have been enjoying Koch Chemie and Uno. I am curious how M210 would compare too.
M210 👍👍👍👍👍👍 for me!
M210 is really nice.
I dig the 3D AAT 505 which I know is technically called a correction glaze.
Good stuff. It has wax in it too.
I like it a lot, but it sure clogs pads quickly.
Big fan of the aca 520
Great vid Brian! You mentioned that you were removing the fillers with the panel prep. The fillers added gloss. In previous videos, you’ve always used a panel prep to remove the oils, fillers etc before protecting (sealant, coating etc). In what instance would you NOT remove the fillers? I miss you including the shop manager lol.
I would leave the fillers on troubled clear too thin and aged to chase after all of the imperfections.
Dear Brian: what do you think about 3M polishes?
Thank you for your great job and help, kind regards from Mallorca, Spain.
Menzerma 4k . A bit dust and not good on trim but if you keep on paint its just as good as any tested here
Hi thank you for the video, very informative! Do you use Meguiar’s M205/M210 ? Compared to perfect finish.
Not a fan of Megs polishes or compounds...but They may work in other environments.
Meguiar's M210 is really great !. Superb finish, good correction for a polish and no dust and wipes very easily !. M205 too, M205 has a little more cut than M210, but the finish of M210 😍
@@nicorallysport Thank you! M210 is definitely something I need to try out.
@@apexdetail85 thank you!
@@calebkasten4209 Oh yes it is amazing! 👍
Awesome vid!! Love this kind😍😁
Thx Brian , no AW Perfect Polish?
I've been using the Mother's 3 in 1 CMX lately on a few late model vehicles with excellent results
You are a wealth of information 👌
Very good and informative review mate. They are all very good. I have been wanting to try some Sonax now we can get it here in Australia. I would be interested to see Scholls S20 black, S30, Australian NV Finesse and CarPro Finisher as well. I really like to try Koch Chemi given the very impressive performance you have demonstrated using this German brand. One thing for sure is that German, US and British made products are top-notch.
Shouldve held a light to each section and see which ones did better with the marks too! Glad I have PF already in the arsenal
As a shade tree detailer, what happens if all you have is a soft finishing pad to apply compound. will it still work? or what if you use a polishing pad to apply wax, would you get a slight paint correction while applying the wax. thank you
2 thumbs up from an old painter
been awhile 4 videos like this.great change of pace good friend. B well.is that a rupes yellow pad,
Some toughts:
1. Koch Chemie is not a necomer, it just has recently been introduced in the US by the Rag Company.
2. Not all fillers / polishing residue can be removed by all pabel wipes. So it could be that some of those fillers are resistant to Gyeon Prep and therefore the results could be biased, especially if we only talk about a few gloss units if difference.
3. It would be fair to mention that the differences you measured are not visible by the naked eye.
Its a new comer here...Thats all that matters to this channel. Gyeon prep is as far as we will go when it comes to panel prep. We refuse to use solvents as we know what it does to clear coat. It should be common sense and not need mentioning that results are subjective. And your last point has been mentioned numerous times on the channel on how many units it takes to be picked up by the human eye.
How much of a difference did that 4th drop of Sonax on the pad make compared to the 3 drops of all the other polishes ?
Good afternoon Sir,
I hope you are well. I bought a new Bronco in Oxford White. I’m looking at applying a ceramic coating.
What do you recommend to coat the exterior paint, the hard plastic roof, the plastic cowling? Adam’s? Gyeon Pure or Mohs? Beadlock Pro? Kamikaze ISM 3.0? Any other brands?
Thank you, sir.
Respectfully,
Robert
Great Video I have a question maybe is dumb but I am just starting a company of detailing so my question is polish and finish polish are the same or it’s any different?
Top notch vid Brian! 🥇🏆👍
*Question:* Any chance to post a link to your Glossmeter?
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Why not Gyeon Primer? awesome product
Not a finish polish question.... Actually a topper question. You've raved over Extreme Solutions Topper and also over Waxedshine Aquabead. Any thoughts on which when used as a topper would give better gloss, and which would give better protection longevity? I'm still using some old school products such as PNS , FK1000P , and lately Griot's Ceramic 3 in 1, but want a topper that will give additional gloss.
One of the best ‘topper’ products I’ve found is so easy to find. You just won’t believe it’s readily available. Meguiars hybrid ceramic wax.
No joke, don’t regard it like some primary form of protection, but as a topper. Apply it after every few washes, assuming your paint is still clean.
On a ceramic coated car, it absolutely amplifies the finish. It darkens dark paint and adds a lot of reflection within seconds. It’s super cheap, doesn’t leave a chalky residue, and doesn’t have to be instantly wiped-off.
I’m not a fanboy. I just tried it and began looking at the product differently. And if that approach doesn’t suit you, just up your application rate on that 3-in-1. I do that on other vehicles too, and it’s a great spray to have handy.
Some of the products marketed as annual-protection are really just badass toppers. Cheers.
I'm late to the party but Topper should be named Depth in a bottle. The slickness doesn't last long but the depth and gloss remains for a while. Titan is also very good. I'm experimenting with Cerakote rapid ceramic spray as a topper on the hood. It's the most hydrophobic spray I've used under $50 and it cost $16 at Walmart. It wiped on and off effortlessly even in the sun on a hot panel. 3 coats is the trick.
Great video just bought some 3D from the clean garage. Just curious what you washed your pads with they were spotless
Excellent work what’s the best wax you can buy out there in the us ?
Have you tested the Glare shiner product?
I need some more time with Perfect Finish but of the times I have used it it has dusted a lot. What am I doing wrong?
Perfect Finish dusts. It’s a very old formula designed for rotary use and all the old formulas were this way.
I had the same experience. Great shine, but not worth the dust. It also clogs up the pads.
Angelwax perfect polish
Great comparo vid, Brian! Thank you.
Can i ask what make/model/year your test panel was?
The only thing realy important is the medium clear sprayed on it.
@@apexdetail85 very true.
Hi brian when your metal oxide will be back on stock?
For a soft clear ( Honda) with very light swirls mostly from towel drying even ektn a drying aid, would an orange or white lake country pad and Perfect Finish be enough to remove the swirls? I'm trying to go the least aggressive route possible.
The industry hasn’t even tested their Final 1-6, it’s their AIO.
I dont need to see the results. Perfect finnish is so good i wont be needing anything else
How do you determine a finishing polish vs a one-step polish ?
I understand a finishing polish (reviewed in this video) are used in a 2 step process - then why is a cutting&polishing compound like SONAX PF used as it is a disintegrating polish where it compounds/cuts first, then finishes as a polish?
My simple answer is to look at the grit level equivalent that the product says it can resolve up-to or down-to. One-steps vs AIOs differ to me in that the latter offers some protection, whereas the former tackles a range of paint issues.
Products like 3D One can confuse some; it isn’t ‘automatically’ a one-step because it is pad-dependent. You determine the number of steps based upon the condition of the panel involved.
If you’re looking at a polish that breaks-down as it’s used…and also has some built-in protection, it’s marketed as an AIO.
I prefer if possible to really divide products by purpose so that your workflow is consistent and the product is maximized to a narrow purpose. Xtreme Solutions Knockout can blow-away 1,000-grit scratches without issue…but you better believe I’ll finish the task with a dedicated polish.
@@snail415 right now, I have no AIO in my arsenal as I’m taking the time to provide 1-step (3D One) or 2-step corrections (Griots Fast Correcting Cream + Sonax PF) to friends and family to dedicate the hours toward improvement in this specific craft. What started out as a hobby/enthusiast thing that I do for myself is slowly transitioning into something I could do as a side job! The passion is there.
Thank you for your detailed response Justin. Consistent work-flow should be my focus when looking at these products, and I should definitely be organizing them to be purpose based for client scenarios.
The Sonax PF isn't that great of a cutter, which is why most people use it as a finishing polish. I believe it also contains some non diminishing abrasives too.
For me, a finishing polish with a stronger pad, or a medium polish on a polishing pad can fall into the "one step" category.
Anything with protection, I've gone back to calling them a "cleaner wax". 3D Speed, Meguiar's 3 in 1, Uno Protect, etc. There is too much confusion around the term "one step" between a polish and something with protection.
But for your first question:
I'll use Rupes Keramik Fine polish as an example.
Back when I was using their line heavily I used Keramik on their original yellow microfiber pads in a "one step" situation. The pads provided a boost in cut, but also finished really well. I could have all used that for a cutting step on softer paints, and finish with the same polish - Keramik, on Rupes yellow foam to finish. However they also had their Quarz Medium that worked great on the green pads they were intended to be paired with, but Quarz also worked great with the yellow foam for even better finishing.
These days I use 3D ONE for almost everything. It cuts great with Uro-Fiber pads. I'll do one steps with it on yellow Buff and Shine or orange HDO pads, but I can also finish with it on those same foam pads but with less passes, and higher arm speed. It's definitely my most versatile polish.
In the instances I need more cut I switch to 3D ACA500 on the Uro-Fiber. I also keep AAT502 around for super finishing, but rarely ever need it.
Which pad to use for sonax pf?
What about super thin Mazda paint that has only 2.8- 3.0 mils from the factory ? Can the products in the video be used?
If I wasn't for than glossmeter.can u really tell the difference with the naked eye I can see any difference
no
great video brian. i use both the sonax and koch chem, have you used the igl f3 finishing polish and if so how do they compare tho the sonax and KC polishes.
I have a question? I just bought the new Toyota Tundra with the color cement gray and this weekend I want to polish and coated. I bought your metal oxide coating and the toper rehydra sheet. My question was for the polish with my dual action, I have Sonax perfect finish are I wanted to try extreme solution lvr 403 will it works with your coating if yes how long should I wait after the polish to doo the coating?
Esoteric found this out years ago
Thanks for the video none the less. Sometimes the allure of many things only leads people on a chase. Notice how esoteric only uses a few products on multi million dollar cars. They already found what works and it’s boring
Do You still use Angelwax Perfect Polish occasionaly?
Oh yes....great for certain soft clear and other situations.
@@apexdetail85 Yes Sir~! Appreciated! :-)
so for mobil detailing would you say KOCHCHEMIE would be the best one? since it has a longer working time?
Nice
Sonax Perfect finish.
What was the pad you used?
Rupes fine.
@@apexdetail85 Thank you keep up the great content been following for a couple of years now your channel is spot on.
What towell is that you are using?
Now what do we add to get into the triple digits
I remember Jon from Forensic Detailing got into triple digits with Meguiar's M205.
Can any of these be used to remove an old ceramic coating with very light marring?
Nice! Mic audio level is low by the way...
I will adjust....thank you.
Carpro reflect still better i guess. Not forget to mention, rupes uno protect also best in finish, buttersmooth and easy to wipe.