After watching a lot of your videos over the last couple of years, I just ordered an Orbea Rise H15 with all the suspension and brake upgrades. Did this over the H10 as I also plan to switch out the bars and put carbon wheels on as well. Should get it in about four weeks. Can't wait! The Orbea build options are really great. Able to get pretty much the most of what I wanted!
Thanks for an excellent review, especially, how it actually rides, lots of really helpful info, especially the pedal cadence tip. Mine is on order, I'm itching to give it go, we might even get back over to Utah one day, such brilliant memories of our 3 wk mid west MTB tour with my old Yeti . Greetings from a cold and damp United Kingdom !!
One of the best reviewers I have found and I love that you interact with your commentors and answer their questions. Honestly, one of my main reasons I want this bike is to not be judged when I ride single track.. I need Never had people look at me funny with my Focus Jam2 because it didn't scream ebike.. With my Scott Genius 900 it looks like a motorcycle so I'm worried.. Guess I better order one of these now before I rack up fines in Moab this year
Hey thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately we don’t have an Rise demos for sale. We have brand new models and we’d be happy to help you get one of those if you’re local!
@@ems0001 Of course. We also have an easy to reach contact form on the website. If you want to get in touch with me directly send me an email at conor@bebikes.com
Great review and made my day as got one coming in 1 weeks time. Not many decent reviews out there so great to hear from you on the handling and power characteristics. Keep up the reviews and just subscribed.
Excellent review! You guys are the best MTB reviewers on UA-cam. That's an e-bike I'd get. Have you considered doing reviews on bikes more toward entry-mid level builds? Practically is key. Love your work! Keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words! We shot a $3000 bike showdown last year. It went over very well. It's tough to shoot those sometimes as we don't have access to entry level demo bikes as often. Plus, they're 95% the same as their high end counterparts.
Imagine ; very light weight Santa Cruz 29ner based on the Tallboy & add just 10 mil at the rear & have a 130 fr & 130 r with RS Ep 8 motor & 60 Nm of Torque & the same size battery in the Downtube & all the lovely goodness of a Santa Cruz bike in stealth black with splashes of Red components on it Wow !! That's my dream !! & Why not they haven't realeased a 29 ner yet ? Great vid Connor as always !!!!! 👍👌😎
Orbea Rise owner here. Nice, thoughtful review. I just want to defend the LED lights used to display power levels/battery. As someone who prefers more info, at first I thought I would need to replace it. But, as I have battery and other data on my Garmin watch, I found I don't need it on the bike. More important, though, when I'm bouncing around and want to instantly know which power level I'm at, having the colored LEDs out over the handlebar conveys that info way more easily than having to glance down to read a digital display.
Hey, Adam! I was on my way to purchasing the Levo sl but my research led me to this bike. I read somewhere it doesn't come out to mass production until October. How long are they saying from their website your order will take to fill?
The Rise is out in the wild. It's just in the same situation as the rest of the industry with long delays and backorders. If you're in Utah, we can help you find one if you'd like!
riding my size large m10 for nearly 2wks now. love it! it's the ideal crossover bike. gets me to the top quicker than my analogue bike, and every bit as much fun on the way down! just hope it proves to be reliable! (not many orbea dealers around Northern Ireland)
Great to hear. Thanks for the feedback. I’m thinking about a medium size & I’m 165 lbs & 5’-8”. I have a large 2014 Occam & it’s probably a little big for me. May I ask how tall you are? Either way, thanks.
you can choose to have the little shimano LCDisplay instead of the 2 LEDs. I own a rise, and I like the minimalist aproach, but the 2 LEDs are just not cutting it. Green -> 21-100% and Red -> 0-20%. But you can also pair it with a Garmin Device and get full details.
True. You can order it with the computer but it will kick the bike into the MyO program which will add lead time. You can also buy the computer after and install it yourself.
Got mine last week, ethirteen crank very poor couldn’t deal with torque teeth grinded away after 1st rise , changed to shimano Xt crank. Done 3000 ft climbing today and single track on the way down. Much better
An excellent review! I ordered mine in October, but I'm so sad that it won't arrive until July I've been told (to Canada). Especially after seeing your review it makes me want it even sooner.
@@adamsilversmith Thanks for the referral. The duties on bikes to Canada from the US is 13% extra. So it never works out better to ship from the US than to buy in Canada unfortunately. It's ok though. I can wait a little bit longer. I just also got a new Santa Cruz 5010c so that's keeping me occupied while I wait for the Orbea.
Bought an H15 during a Black Friday sale for $5,600 USD with standard specs. Bike is heavier than expected at 47#s, definitely should have standard 4 piston brakes and the Recon is ill suited for this application. I put a DHR up front, the Dissector in the rear and the Recon is a spare for my Scalpel Huge difference with the new setup. Overall I love this bike, 4-5 hours of range as Eco mode is usually enough here in Florida
You don’t need a computer screen to tell you what mode you’re in because you can feel it when you pedal, also just charge the battery 🔋 to full and then ride for a couple of hours and you’re good. Unless you wanna ride for 8 hours uphill I don’t see the issue tbh 🤷🏾 great review
Thanks! We will do as many as we can. They can be tricky to get out hands on. Plus they’re 95% the same as their high end counterparts. The same suspension feel, handling characteristics and geometry apply to the more entry level models.
Great review. Wondered if you have ridden the alloy H model and what are your thoughts compared to the carbon? Im considering a H15 but I do really like the look of the Heckler and your review of it certainly gives it high praise. Obviously there is a big difference in price but in your opinion is the Rise capable enough (with the right spec) to compare to the Heckler on the chunky/jumpy stuff. Cheers
I haven't been able to ride the H. In my experience the frame material doesn't make a huge difference, but it's slightly noticeable. The bigger battery would make the biggest difference I think. Obviously not so much in ride quality but duration. The Heckler is going to handle bigger, rougher terrain much better. It comes with a weight penalty though.
Great review! Such an interesting bike! At the moment I am choosing between an Orbea Rise M20 - the lowest spec - and a fully specced Lapierre Ezesty AM LTD including a second batterie for the same price (and all I can afford). Any tipps? I have the feeling, each one will be a perfect choice :P But fully specced is kinda "I want it"!! :) Thank you! Oh I have been riding the Fazua and I like it! The EP8 is also very tempting! But I have never been on a EP8 RS unfortunately... Keep on riding! Yeah!
Awesome video man! I’m soooo tempted to sell my Levo and get a Rise. What camera are you using? I just got a GP9 but my footage on the first run sucked - need to play with the settings
Connor - did you get a chance to ride the Rise without the motor turned on? Some e-bikes have a ton of resistance, wondering how the Rise feels in this situation.
Funny you ask. I actually had a loose cable the first time I went to film the review. I couldn’t get it to turn on. So I rode all of Zen with the motor off. I was able to hang with the rest of the group just fine. It felt heavy, but I didn’t notice much drag at all.
I'm considering getting an M20, one concern, is the flat bar with little rise kills my wrists and shoulders. Every bike I own I put a higher riser and a bit more sweep on and/or a slightly higher stem. With eMBT, I see many have cabling integrated into the stem which means it can't be changed. Can you tell me if the Orbea would be easy to swap out the stem and bar? Thanks
Looks like Orbea did a great job with keeping this as an assisted Mtb rather than hedging more towards quasi dirtbike. Unfortunately for my region, people are very intolerant of e-bikes. Only place to ride them is basically on fire roads, so that is huge turn off. Reminds me of the earlier days of MTB, where most areas banned single track access (in my region). Took a long time to change attitudes...
Thats a great way to put it. Assisted MTB rather than electric dirt bike. We are slowly seeing a shift toward more and more access for eMTBs. Even a year or two ago there was really nowhere to ride them around Utah. It will change.
That’s bullshit , no one “OWNS “ the trails or the forest 🌳 they belong to planet earth 🌍 go ride your bike, you don’t need to take orders from anyone, you have human rights to enjoy yourself bro 😎
How is the sizing - I tried the Levo SL and was medium on that but think at 175cm I may need to go up a size . Can’t find one to try so will be ordering blind so to speak
Great channel and awesome review. I´m looking to buy the M20 version but the sizing is confusing me somewhat. I´m 6'2 with 35 inch inseam. How tall are you and is it correctly understood that this Rise is XL?
We don't have one at the moment. We have tons of these on order though. If you're local, send an email to info@bebikes.com and they can get you sorted with an order.
Where is this? Looks like a nice little test track. Was considering this bike but I ended up going Heckler (demo) and throwing a 29er on the front and turned it into a mullet.
@@bikersedge I caved, bought the only Rise in my area and sold my Heckler. Love the Rise, really suits me and I just love the feel and how light it is.
Great review! Since you have unlimited access to the Orbea Rise, how often do you ride the Rise compare to an analog bike when you are just riding for fun? If you ride an analog bike more often, which bike do you like to ride?
Thanks! I'm pretty pressed for time these days so I've been riding the e bike about 70% of the time and the normal bike the rest. It also depends on who I'm riding with. Out of the kindness of my heart, I bring the regular bike when I ride with regular bike friends. If I'm by myself I almost always grab the e bike.
Great review 👍.After your review I bought trance x2 last year and I like it very much.I want to try emtb but Im afraid of the weight of the full emtb, I like playfully bikes.Would you consider orbea rise as all mountain bike like trance x or rather typical trail bike?My riding is 50/50 trail and light enduro riding and Im trying to figure out if the rise will be capable enough???
I'll go for H15 allu and change the air shaft from 150 to 160mm. Another great thing about this bike is that it uses the same parts as conventional bike, no emtb dedicated parts.The only con is non removable battery. I appreciate your comment 👍
160mm is fine according to Orbea. As the the Orbea 'team' riders are running 160mm! I have a Zeb 160, hta is now 64.7, perfect! Also upped the stem to 45mm to get a little reach back. Also put on an Ohlins TTX22m coil, now feels like bottomless rear travel and so damn planted! Hoping cascade links comes out with a new rear link upping travel/progression, fingers crossed! Bike absolutely rips and will never purchase another ebkie over 45lbs again!
A little late to the party here ... in terms of uphill climbing effort on technical terrain, would the Rise be easier than a 26 lb Ripley? 10+lbs of more bike to handle, but motor assisted ... hmmm
Very interesting. That’s a tough call. I’d have to think where the climb is more about power, the Rise is going to win. If it’s very tight and technical, it might be pretty close.
@@theedmondsept I don't have a Garmin. Kinda sounds like the only way to see the exact percentage is with the Garmin. I run the newer 8*** level Shimano computer on mine. I had to use some adapters to take the older gauge Di2 wires (on the rise) to the smaller newer gauge wires (on the computer.) It's not too tricky.
You can multiply that 360 by 1.5 to get a good comparison to a traditional e bike range. The Rise is lighter, uses less power, and is more efficient. That's why the 360-watt hour battery lasts similar to a 540 on a big e bike. I did a 5.5-hour ride and the battery indicator finally turned red (20% left) as I pulled into the parking lot.
@@bikersedge Geo is effectively the same, EXCEPT for slacker seat tube on the Levo SL, which for an e-Bike I prefer. Orbea has 10mm less rear travel as well. Frustrated as both are too much of a trail bike. Would prefer a Levo EVO SL or the Kenevo SL but with Orbea battery/motor.
@@rezenclowd3 I'm a tall guy so there's zero chance of me preferring a slacker seat tube angle. I can't help but think the Orbea wins in every way. It's the same weight and has nearly double the power of the Levo SL. I would love to see a slack and rowdy bike with the EP8 RS motor and battery. I'd buy that bike in a heartbeat.
@Bikers Edge Same 6ft3in. Sadly neither should use a coil spring due to the rear shock yoke. No way I want an air spring. I've seen a couple guys make this a 160/160 bike via mullet, but that's dangerous territory for both due to that yoke. Sadly no local orbea shops closet than 3hrs for me which for an r bike is a deal breaker.
@@rezenclowd3 After my original post, I purchased the Rise M10 in late June and after riding it for 6 months I would by it again. With my 1 demo ride on the SL I had to slam the seat forward due to the slack ST angle and on the Rise it's almost slammed all the way rearward. The Rise has zero front end lift even with the fork at 160mm.
@@bikersedge OK for price and power, though not for the weight. Actually at equivalent build the rise will always be 1Kg heavier than the SL, because of its motor and battery. Also another interesting stat (difficult to measure) would be the drag after speed limit. Looks like SL is unbeatable there, at least better than EP8, and I doubt this restricted version of EP8 does better.
@@haribouss I guess weight/price is a better way of looking at it. The $7500 Rise is lighter than a $7500 Levo SL. the drag is interesting. Would be cool to figure out how to measure that on the trail.
@@haribouss You're right that the SL frame (with motor & battery) is lighter, but since the Rise can be spec'd with a lighter suspension (Fox 34 & DPS vs Fox 36 & DPX2) its 10k top spec is still around the same weight as the 14k S-Works SL.
Oops. Didn’t see which video this question was attached to. My bad. I currently have 2.5” up front and 2.4” in the rear. I wouldn’t go bigger than 2.5” on the rear.
I don’t think prices will drop significantly. Rather, the competition will get more fierce and we’ll see better technology and components for the same price.
i get why these things are a short-term benefit for manufacturers and for retailers, but, mountain bikers will be frakked when every mountain bike is an electric motorcycle, and the bike companies and bike shops and mountain biking are gone for good.
After watching a lot of your videos over the last couple of years, I just ordered an Orbea Rise H15 with all the suspension and brake upgrades. Did this over the H10 as I also plan to switch out the bars and put carbon wheels on as well. Should get it in about four weeks. Can't wait! The Orbea build options are really great. Able to get pretty much the most of what I wanted!
Nice. You’re going to love the bike!
Thanks for an excellent review, especially, how it actually rides, lots of really helpful info, especially the pedal cadence tip. Mine is on order, I'm itching to give it go, we might even get back over to Utah one day, such brilliant memories of our 3 wk mid west MTB tour with my old Yeti . Greetings from a cold and damp United Kingdom !!
Glad you liked it! You're going to love the bike.
Truly enjoy what you guy’s are doing here. Respect ✊
Stoked! Thanks for the kind words.
One of the best reviewers I have found and I love that you interact with your commentors and answer their questions.
Honestly, one of my main reasons I want this bike is to not be judged when I ride single track.. I need Never had people look at me funny with my Focus Jam2 because it didn't scream ebike..
With my Scott Genius 900 it looks like a motorcycle so I'm worried..
Guess I better order one of these now before I rack up fines in Moab this year
OK, I'm super slow... I just noticed you're a bike store here in Utah... I want to buy a Rise M20 XL demo from you if you have one! Crossing fingers
Hey thanks for the kind words. Unfortunately we don’t have an Rise demos for sale. We have brand new models and we’d be happy to help you get one of those if you’re local!
Thank you. Another great review! You sure sounded more ecstatic when riding Heckler =)
Great review. I have to say.. I have been watching you guys for a while and your video production progressed really well.
Hey thanks for the kind words!
@@bikersedge Hey.. If I wanted to get in touch with you guys.. could I just call the shop?
@@ems0001 Of course. We also have an easy to reach contact form on the website. If you want to get in touch with me directly send me an email at conor@bebikes.com
Great review and made my day as got one coming in 1 weeks time. Not many decent reviews out there so great to hear from you on the handling and power characteristics. Keep up the reviews and just subscribed.
You’re going to love it! Thanks for the kind words.
@@ilidiofaria Yes had it for 2 months now and it’s fantastic. Put about 700km of hard enduro riding on it and very happy.
@@ilidiofaria No, it came forward by 5 months, no idea why!
Excellent review! You guys are the best MTB reviewers on UA-cam. That's an e-bike I'd get.
Have you considered doing reviews on bikes more toward entry-mid level builds? Practically is key.
Love your work! Keep it up.
Thanks for the kind words! We shot a $3000 bike showdown last year. It went over very well. It's tough to shoot those sometimes as we don't have access to entry level demo bikes as often. Plus, they're 95% the same as their high end counterparts.
@@bikersedge have you guys considered reviewing gravel bikes? Like from Marin, Niner, and Salsa?
The only brand we carry there would be Salsa. It’s something we’ve talked about and experimented with a little.
Great review! Thanks! All the fun and none of the disadvantages! What's not to like? I want one!
Its quickly becoming one of my favorite bikes.
Imagine ; very light weight Santa Cruz 29ner based on the Tallboy & add just 10 mil at the rear & have a 130 fr & 130 r with RS Ep 8 motor & 60 Nm of Torque & the same size battery in the Downtube & all the lovely goodness of a Santa Cruz bike in stealth black with splashes of Red components on it Wow !! That's my dream !! & Why not they haven't realeased a 29 ner yet ? Great vid Connor as always !!!!! 👍👌😎
Orbea Rise owner here. Nice, thoughtful review. I just want to defend the LED lights used to display power levels/battery. As someone who prefers more info, at first I thought I would need to replace it. But, as I have battery and other data on my Garmin watch, I found I don't need it on the bike. More important, though, when I'm bouncing around and want to instantly know which power level I'm at, having the colored LEDs out over the handlebar conveys that info way more easily than having to glance down to read a digital display.
I have a M20 on order so this review makes me think ive ordered the right bike, excellent review......but that landscape is truly epic !
Hey, Adam! I was on my way to purchasing the Levo sl but my research led me to this bike. I read somewhere it doesn't come out to mass production until October. How long are they saying from their website your order will take to fill?
I honestly think I wanna go ahead and put an order in but if it's gonna be a while then I'm just gonna sit on my cash for now.
The Rise is out in the wild. It's just in the same situation as the rest of the industry with long delays and backorders. If you're in Utah, we can help you find one if you'd like!
Another awesome review, thank you!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
riding my size large m10 for nearly 2wks now. love it! it's the ideal crossover bike. gets me to the top quicker than my analogue bike, and every bit as much fun on the way down! just hope it proves to be reliable! (not many orbea dealers around Northern Ireland)
Can I ask you how tall you are?
Great to hear. Thanks for the feedback. I’m thinking about a medium size & I’m 165 lbs & 5’-8”. I have a large 2014 Occam & it’s probably a little big for me. May I ask how tall you are? Either way, thanks.
Fantastic video. Best I've seen on the rise.
Hey thanks! Glad you liked it.
Good review particularly about spinning and gear selection.
Hey thanks!
Great content as always ... thanks !
Thanks for the kind words!
Brilliant review, cheers
Hey thanks!
Thx for these fun videos!
Thanks for watching!
Love this ebike format
Me too. I hope we see more like this in the future.
you can choose to have the little shimano LCDisplay instead of the 2 LEDs. I own a rise, and I like the minimalist aproach, but the 2 LEDs are just not cutting it. Green -> 21-100% and Red -> 0-20%. But you can also pair it with a Garmin Device and get full details.
True. You can order it with the computer but it will kick the bike into the MyO program which will add lead time. You can also buy the computer after and install it yourself.
Got mine last week, ethirteen crank very poor couldn’t deal with torque teeth grinded away after 1st rise , changed to shimano Xt crank. Done 3000 ft climbing today and single track on the way down. Much better
An excellent review! I ordered mine in October, but I'm so sad that it won't arrive until July I've been told (to Canada). Especially after seeing your review it makes me want it even sooner.
Dang. That’s a long wait. Well you’re welcome to ride vicariously through this video all you want.
They have them in stock at my local shop in Las Vegas. FYI
@@adamsilversmith That would be amazing. But they seem to have allocated very few Rises to Canada.
@@brendan1 bikebrain in Las Vegas NV. Ask for Eric tell him I sent you. He’ll ship
@@adamsilversmith Thanks for the referral. The duties on bikes to Canada from the US is 13% extra. So it never works out better to ship from the US than to buy in Canada unfortunately. It's ok though. I can wait a little bit longer. I just also got a new Santa Cruz 5010c so that's keeping me occupied while I wait for the Orbea.
Bought an H15 during a Black Friday sale for $5,600 USD with standard specs. Bike is heavier than expected at 47#s, definitely should have standard 4 piston brakes and the Recon is ill suited for this application. I put a DHR up front, the Dissector in the rear and the Recon is a spare for my Scalpel
Huge difference with the new setup. Overall I love this bike, 4-5 hours of range as Eco mode is usually enough here in Florida
Got the h15, jus amazing. So much better than my previous gen1 bosch moterra 2, light in tech trails and double range with this lighter ebike.
You don’t need a computer screen to tell you what mode you’re in because you can feel it when you pedal, also just charge the battery 🔋 to full and then ride for a couple of hours and you’re good. Unless you wanna ride for 8 hours uphill I don’t see the issue tbh 🤷🏾 great review
Subscribed! I want to see more bikes under $3k though.
Thanks! We will do as many as we can. They can be tricky to get out hands on. Plus they’re 95% the same as their high end counterparts. The same suspension feel, handling characteristics and geometry apply to the more entry level models.
great review. I am getting older and this looks good
It’s so fun. So stoked to own one.
Great review. Wondered if you have ridden the alloy H model and what are your thoughts compared to the carbon? Im considering a H15 but I do really like the look of the Heckler and your review of it certainly gives it high praise. Obviously there is a big difference in price but in your opinion is the Rise capable enough (with the right spec) to compare to the Heckler on the chunky/jumpy stuff. Cheers
I haven't been able to ride the H. In my experience the frame material doesn't make a huge difference, but it's slightly noticeable. The bigger battery would make the biggest difference I think. Obviously not so much in ride quality but duration.
The Heckler is going to handle bigger, rougher terrain much better. It comes with a weight penalty though.
Great review! Such an interesting bike! At the moment I am choosing between an Orbea Rise M20 - the lowest spec - and a fully specced Lapierre Ezesty AM LTD including a second batterie for the same price (and all I can afford). Any tipps? I have the feeling, each one will be a perfect choice :P But fully specced is kinda "I want it"!! :) Thank you!
Oh I have been riding the Fazua and I like it! The EP8 is also very tempting! But I have never been on a EP8 RS unfortunately... Keep on riding! Yeah!
I;m not at all familiar with the Lapierre so I can't really say. I'm really digging my Rise, though.
@@bikersedge Thank you so much! Have looooads of fun with your rise!
Awesome video man! I’m soooo tempted to sell my Levo and get a Rise. What camera are you using? I just got a GP9 but my footage on the first run sucked - need to play with the settings
Do it!!
I use a GP Hero 7 with Karma gimbal.
Connor - did you get a chance to ride the Rise without the motor turned on? Some e-bikes have a ton of resistance, wondering how the Rise feels in this situation.
Funny you ask. I actually had a loose cable the first time I went to film the review. I couldn’t get it to turn on. So I rode all of Zen with the motor off. I was able to hang with the rest of the group just fine. It felt heavy, but I didn’t notice much drag at all.
What an amazing bike playground to have
I’m not complaining!
Look like perfect ebike.
I'm considering getting an M20, one concern, is the flat bar with little rise kills my wrists and shoulders. Every bike I own I put a higher riser and a bit more sweep on and/or a slightly higher stem. With eMBT, I see many have cabling integrated into the stem which means it can't be changed. Can you tell me if the Orbea would be easy to swap out the stem and bar? Thanks
On mine nothing goes in the bars. It’s all just standard stuff. There enough slack in the cable to handle going taller too.
Also mine came with a 20mm rise bar. So not flat.
Looks like Orbea did a great job with keeping this as an assisted Mtb rather than hedging more towards quasi dirtbike. Unfortunately for my region, people are very intolerant of e-bikes. Only place to ride them is basically on fire roads, so that is huge turn off. Reminds me of the earlier days of MTB, where most areas banned single track access (in my region). Took a long time to change attitudes...
Thats a great way to put it. Assisted MTB rather than electric dirt bike. We are slowly seeing a shift toward more and more access for eMTBs. Even a year or two ago there was really nowhere to ride them around Utah. It will change.
That’s bullshit , no one “OWNS “ the trails or the forest 🌳 they belong to planet earth 🌍 go ride your bike, you don’t need to take orders from anyone, you have human rights to enjoy yourself bro 😎
Any thoughts on the lighter bikes for heavier riders?
I really like the idea of still having to work but I'm not as fit as I used to be and 95kg
I think they’re great for all riders!
40 freedom units = how much in international units ?
How is the sizing - I tried the Levo SL and was medium on that but think at 175cm I may need to go up a size . Can’t find one to try so will be ordering blind so to speak
I feel like their size chart is pretty accurate. I am 6’2” and the XL fits me very well.
Great channel and awesome review. I´m looking to buy the M20 version but the sizing is confusing me somewhat. I´m 6'2 with 35 inch inseam. How tall are you and is it correctly understood that this Rise is XL?
I'm 6'2" and have the XL. Check out our most recent video on bike sizing for more advice.
@@bikersedge Thanx brother, I really appreciate the answer and I will go watch that video now :-)
Can you replace that little light indicator with the Shimano screen that comes on the other ebikes like the heckler? Or is that not possible
Yes you can. You can either do it at the point of purchase through Orbea's MyO program or just buy one and do it yourself later.
@@bikersedge thx for the info, do you guys have any size large in the blue in stock? The M10
We don't have one at the moment. We have tons of these on order though. If you're local, send an email to info@bebikes.com and they can get you sorted with an order.
@@bikersedge I'm getting my Rise in Mid-June and was wondering which display unit should I get, because on Shimano's website it shows a few
Where is this? Looks like a nice little test track. Was considering this bike but I ended up going Heckler (demo) and throwing a 29er on the front and turned it into a mullet.
Heckler mullet sounds rad!
This is Barrel Roll and Sidewinder in St George, UT.
@@bikersedge I caved, bought the only Rise in my area and sold my Heckler. Love the Rise, really suits me and I just love the feel and how light it is.
Great review! Since you have unlimited access to the Orbea Rise, how often do you ride the Rise compare to an analog bike when you are just riding for fun? If you ride an analog bike more often, which bike do you like to ride?
Thanks! I'm pretty pressed for time these days so I've been riding the e bike about 70% of the time and the normal bike the rest. It also depends on who I'm riding with. Out of the kindness of my heart, I bring the regular bike when I ride with regular bike friends. If I'm by myself I almost always grab the e bike.
@@bikersedge Thank you, that was a priceless reply. I wish I was closer to Salt Lake City, I need to check out your Demos on my next trip.
Let us know when you’re in town! We’d love to get you set up on a demo.
It looks like a size XL - can you say something about your size and how this fits to me bike size?
I'm 6'2" and it fits me well.
Great review 👍.After your review I bought trance x2 last year and I like it very much.I want to try emtb but Im afraid of the weight of the full emtb, I like playfully bikes.Would you consider orbea rise as all mountain bike like trance x or rather typical trail bike?My riding is 50/50 trail and light enduro riding and Im trying to figure out if the rise will be capable enough???
I think it’s right between trail and all mountain. I’ve ridden some pretty tough trails on mine. It can get after it.
I'll go for H15 allu and change the air shaft from 150 to 160mm. Another great thing about this bike is that it uses the same parts as conventional bike, no emtb dedicated parts.The only con is non removable battery.
I appreciate your comment 👍
160 would be great. Might need to check on the warranty situation with that. Technically 150 is already over forked from the stock 140.
160mm is fine according to Orbea. As the the Orbea 'team' riders are running 160mm! I have a Zeb 160, hta is now 64.7, perfect! Also upped the stem to 45mm to get a little reach back. Also put on an Ohlins TTX22m coil, now feels like bottomless rear travel and so damn planted! Hoping cascade links comes out with a new rear link upping travel/progression, fingers crossed! Bike absolutely rips and will never purchase another ebkie over 45lbs again!
@@xfortysd40 you can use larger shock and offset bushing to make 160 travel
A little late to the party here ... in terms of uphill climbing effort on technical terrain, would the Rise be easier than a 26 lb Ripley? 10+lbs of more bike to handle, but motor assisted ... hmmm
Very interesting. That’s a tough call. I’d have to think where the climb is more about power, the Rise is going to win. If it’s very tight and technical, it might be pretty close.
The Rise integrates with your Garmin for mode and battery info display
That’s correct.
@@bikersedge What if you don't have a Garmin to see all the info, can you see it on a phone app?
@@theedmondsept I don't have a Garmin. Kinda sounds like the only way to see the exact percentage is with the Garmin. I run the newer 8*** level Shimano computer on mine. I had to use some adapters to take the older gauge Di2 wires (on the rise) to the smaller newer gauge wires (on the computer.) It's not too tricky.
Which of the Minion models did you put on front?
Don’t remember exactly. I’ve since switched to Kenda Pinners front and back. If I had to guess I’d say DHF.
Is there a rattle sound?
Yes. Only when coasting and it fades into the background pretty quickly. I don’t notice it anymore.
But only 360Wh battery? :( Can you cover range/capacity that you saw on this bike? I was VERY interested until I found this detail.
You can multiply that 360 by 1.5 to get a good comparison to a traditional e bike range. The Rise is lighter, uses less power, and is more efficient. That's why the 360-watt hour battery lasts similar to a 540 on a big e bike. I did a 5.5-hour ride and the battery indicator finally turned red (20% left) as I pulled into the parking lot.
@@bikersedge thx for the feedback!
There's also an external battery, extra 160 wats or something! Only 2 lbs I believe for over a total of 600 total
@@xfortysd40 It's an extra 252 Wh. At the 1.5x factor that's over 900 WH equivalent.
Have you ridden the Specialized Levo SL? As you must know, this is the direct comparison for this bike based on the 40# light Ebike range.
I haven’t ridden the Levo SL but all the stats on the Rise seem to be better. More power, less weight, more modern geometry and cheaper.
@@bikersedge Geo is effectively the same, EXCEPT for slacker seat tube on the Levo SL, which for an e-Bike I prefer. Orbea has 10mm less rear travel as well. Frustrated as both are too much of a trail bike. Would prefer a Levo EVO SL or the Kenevo SL but with Orbea battery/motor.
@@rezenclowd3 I'm a tall guy so there's zero chance of me preferring a slacker seat tube angle. I can't help but think the Orbea wins in every way. It's the same weight and has nearly double the power of the Levo SL.
I would love to see a slack and rowdy bike with the EP8 RS motor and battery. I'd buy that bike in a heartbeat.
@Bikers Edge Same 6ft3in. Sadly neither should use a coil spring due to the rear shock yoke. No way I want an air spring. I've seen a couple guys make this a 160/160 bike via mullet, but that's dangerous territory for both due to that yoke. Sadly no local orbea shops closet than 3hrs for me which for an r bike is a deal breaker.
@@rezenclowd3 After my original post, I purchased the Rise M10 in late June and after riding it for 6 months I would by it again. With my 1 demo ride on the SL I had to slam the seat forward due to the slack ST angle and on the Rise it's almost slammed all the way rearward. The Rise has zero front end lift even with the fork at 160mm.
Great review! Your thoughts on the Rise vs the Levo SL?
I haven’t ridden the Levo SL but all the stats on the Rise seem to be better. More power, less weight, more modern geometry and cheaper.
@@bikersedge OK for price and power, though not for the weight. Actually at equivalent build the rise will always be 1Kg heavier than the SL, because of its motor and battery. Also another interesting stat (difficult to measure) would be the drag after speed limit. Looks like SL is unbeatable there, at least better than EP8, and I doubt this restricted version of EP8 does better.
@@haribouss I guess weight/price is a better way of looking at it. The $7500 Rise is lighter than a $7500 Levo SL. the drag is interesting. Would be cool to figure out how to measure that on the trail.
Rise no delivery before september 2021, Levo SL are on stock 😅
@@haribouss You're right that the SL frame (with motor & battery) is lighter, but since the Rise can be spec'd with a lighter suspension (Fox 34 & DPS vs Fox 36 & DPX2) its 10k top spec is still around the same weight as the 14k S-Works SL.
Curious to know what is the largest tire size can be used.
Ibis says 2.6”
@@bikersedge How about on Orbea Rise?
Oops. Didn’t see which video this question was attached to. My bad.
I currently have 2.5” up front and 2.4” in the rear. I wouldn’t go bigger than 2.5” on the rear.
You can have a computer as an option or connect to any Garmin device...
You are correct. That would require having a Garmin or going through the MyO program to add the computer which will add lead time.
@@bikersedge having a garmin watch or gps is not really an issue when you ride a bike 🤣🤣🤣
Where the big clime ?
What trail is this? Looks awesome!
A handful of different trails near Barrel Roll in Santa Clara. It's a good time for sure.
12:00 is he Drive ebike on bio Bike?
Doesnt it handle well? Why did you edit out so many of the corners?
It handles just fine. Great actually. I usually cut out most of the parts when I’m not talking.
@@bikersedge Got ya. Thanks.
Will you release an updated review with the hydro?
I doubt we will. It’s pretty much the exact same bike. If I’m able to get a media sample I will.
@@bikersedge you don’t think the few extra pounds will make a difference?
Not at all.
@@bikersedge good to know. Perfect! I put down a deposit on a H15 without demoing.
Hello
What did this build weigh ready to ride?
Have you ridden the Levo SL?
Ty for your vid 🤙🏽
It’s around 42 with Tannus tire inserts and pedals. Haven’t ridden the Levo.
@@bikersedge
Ok. Ty
Sick bike can’t deny but 10k shit!
whats the name of your shop?
Biker's Edge.
Great review! Good channel. However... $11,000???? What in the f*** has this ridiculous industry come to??
Hey thanks! Yeah.... it's a little silly. To be fair, this is the $8500 version with an upgrade or two. Still a ton of money.
Still to expensive with crappie tires
The tires are pretty solid actually.
Ebikes look fun but the $$$ is too much for me to try.
They can be spendy. The prices will come down with time for sure.
Yeah, it's awesome. Not worth it for the price. Also, it'll lose most of its value pretty quickly. The tech just leaps ahead every year.
Based on that it sounds like no one should ever buy a new bike, phone, computer or truck?
@@bikersedge You just have to wait for prices to fall. Just like with all new tech. It's a matter of timing it, I think.
@@seymourtompkins Hope that's the case. If the new Levo taught us anything, eMTB prices are only going up - $15k for a MTB!?!
I don’t think prices will drop significantly. Rather, the competition will get more fierce and we’ll see better technology and components for the same price.
i get why these things are a short-term benefit for manufacturers and for retailers,
but,
mountain bikers will be frakked when every mountain bike is an electric motorcycle, and the bike companies and bike shops and mountain biking are gone for good.
Every sport evolves. When I started, no one rode suspension- too "dirt bikey". Now, it's standard issue on every bike.
@@seymourtompkins when there's no longer any bikey to be had--and no bikey companyeys--you will be sorryey
@@lvirag8401 not likey
@@seymourtompkins but likely