The rise is a great bike, I rode one for a month and had fun with it as it was the first e-bike I rode for sometime. I decided to go with the full power Levo as it eats any trail, its a monster of a bike with a very quiet and refined motor, which I love it. Also the specialized customer Support is amazing. Cheers
I’ve had a Rise on demo for a couple of days, the M10. Rinsed the battery yesterday, 30 miles & 4,000 feet of climbing. 75% in Eco, the rest in Trail. I’m 164lbs and fit. Took it out at lunch today, 9 miles & 1,650 feet of climbing, all in Boost. Into the 2nd bar of battery.
Glad to finally see a review where someone is not afraid to mention 3rd party apps to reconfigure the motor. I used the ST Unlocker but I am sure there are other apps that do the same. Only complaint with my Rise M20 was factory tires were not aggressive enough.
My Rise was delivered with a standard EP8 (not RS). So I have the full 85nm tork. A lot Of fun!! I had the bike for a year now and have no issue with the battery. Full waranty due to the fact that the bike was delivered like this from a orbea dealer brand new. And they know about the motor mixup after I contacted them about it.
75Nm on this bike feels like 90 on a 3rd Gen Levo due to its better power to weight. But you will drain the battery much faster at this setting. I noticed that setting it much higher than 75Nm there is barely a difference so I think 75Nm is the max the battery can handle. I have mine set at 65Nm which feels like a full powered EP8 on a 52lb bike. When you run the range extender (252wh), the bike will only draw power from the extender and won’t touch the main battery and that Range extender’s maximum Tq is 60Nm. Setting the bike at 75Nm, there is no discernible difference between 75 and 60 so the Range extender is the bottleneck. That said, if you crank up the settings to 10 on everything at 60Nm, you will easily hang with any full fat bike
@@TheBikeDads sure, bike is currently 162mm coil mullet rear, 170mm fork, 63.8 degree HT, 40.8lbs without pedals. And it absolutely Rips!!! Rear suspension feels better than the X2 on the 3rd Gen Levo I have on test.. ua-cam.com/channels/_nxmfOcKm9-oD9sbdHkNeg.html
i made mine a 160/170 mullet. rides great, and I can change it back to 140/150 in about 10 minutes (for the fork I use a Mezzer and I just enlarge the negative chamber so it takes no time). Most versatile ebike out there.
@@Trailjunkie62 For my daily rides the 29/29 is better, mostly because of the steeper STA uphill and the reduced travel makes it more fun on tame terrain. On rough long days or self-lifted park days, the mullet is a fantastic option. Something no one talks about is how the frame is pretty flexy because it is very light. It made me go from coil option to riding a DVO Topaz on the mullet setup because the shock itself needs to be part of what makes the frame rigid, and I find that it flexes more than I like with a coil shock (very small diameter rod). The bike itself doesn't feel radically different. It's still the same bike, bit with more travel and slacker HTA.
Having ridden the specialized sl I found the trail mode to be plenty of power, almost too much. I have not ridden this one but it looks amazing and would prefer range over excessive power. Gotta try it.
If you have to pick 1 bike. This orbea rise or gen 3 Levo? Just so you know your reviews are great and the video quality is phenomenal. Well done sir 👍🏼
It would depend on so many factors. I personally love full fat bikes, the weight is beneficial for suspension performance and grip plus the battery power let’s you boost around more. Love boost. They are more of a handful though so you have to be a proficient rider to throw them around. The rise is more manageable and more adaptable if you are willing to change some parts. It feels more like a regular bike if that is what you are after. They both are fantastic. The Shimano system is more reliable but Specialized warranty is fast and they seem to stock parts.
Hey man, great review! Quick question: right now I own a full-fat e-MTB, which I use both for hitting trails and dragging both of my kids on a Hurley trailer uphill to their kindergarten (no more Shotgun for us I'm afraid...). The total extra weight for the trailer with both kids on it is around 45-50kg (100 to 110lbs). Think the Ep8 would deliver enough power to drag them up the hill? Love the channel, guys - I run every purchase by you before I commit to it! ha. Thanks!
The detuned rise ep8 at the max power setting should be just fine for the ride to kindergarten with kiddos in the trailer. With the decrease in weight of the bike and the 60 NM ep8 it almost can hang with full fats...tune down your full fat boost mode to 75-80%, that would probably be an equal measure.
👍 Yep, you can hook to Garmin. There is also a light indicator when you hit 20% or you can also check an app. But at 36 pounds...you can also just pedal without motor.
yes, 100% agree, you can ride it just like a non e-bike, trips out often only 30% of the time with assist on, rest manual (depends on the terrain obviously)
Levo sl is a beautiful bike esp in the mat orange colour, oh my god I nearly paid up right then and there. But sadly the test ride, without ever riding an eMtb the power was disappointing. I’m simply not fit enough to make that work and for the money….rise wins. I still get the sl knocking on the back of my head wanting to come in though. And the brose motor issues didn’t help either
did you ever tow your kids with this bike? I have bought one, but not gotten it yet, and will be towing my son with it. Just wondering if you tested that, and what the battery life was like when you did. thanks
@@TheBikeDads thanks for the reply, my only kid is ~70lbs (for now) - so I should be good to go for a while, maybe by the times he's bigger I will want to upgrade to a full sized ebike. I am a huge fan of your site and content, keep up the great work!
So does de restriction hurt the battery… ? Supposed to be smaller more compact battery cells to give the light weight, but allegedly can’t discharge quick enough to give full power without damage or shortening the battery life. Anyone experienced this?
@@chrismcreynolds9215 yes I did I went for the medium in the end just felt large a little On larger side and not as playful as medium, yes enjoying it Haven’t run out of battery yet and has some long days, haven’t t needed extender pack
Give me full power of ep8 then it is the Rise because of weight and diversity of frame to be a trail or enduro bike. If that’s off the table, Levo. I’m drunk on the power as I tow the kids and love buzzing around full power boost.
Because it’s not that good a tower unless you unlock more torque. A single kid sub 120 lbs it works pretty good if you are in decent shape but nowhere near a full fat ebike for towing multiple kids. The Shimano ep8 also requires higher cadence which makes towing a little tougher compared to Brose or Bosch.
@@rogersmith1470 grab the ebike adapter for the macride and you should be good to go. Alternatively, the shotgun pro out of the box will work as well. We ride our ebikes with kids off road seats all the time, great fun!
@@TheBikeDads thanks for the quick reply sorry should have been more specific with my question , currently using macride mostly on flatish trails wondering if I’m looking to get into climbs with the little one would the orbea rise (h10 less expensive aluminum) be an sufficient upgrade or would I be better off with fulfill powdered emtb like a giant trance x? Looking to get a pair of em (one for wife) without being able to test ride them so any feedback is certainly appreciated
💯 you definitely don’t need 85 nm ,this bike will climb in trail mode no problem at all , I had the Orbea Wild fs and now I have the Rise it climbs just as good cos it’s so light , the only problem I have is the brakes they’re shit!! 😂
The rise is a great bike, I rode one for a month and had fun with it as it was the first e-bike I rode for sometime. I decided to go with the full power Levo as it eats any trail, its a monster of a bike with a very quiet and refined motor, which I love it. Also the specialized customer Support is amazing. Cheers
I’ve owned 5 E-MTBs, and I don’t miss the other full power of the heavy ones, and my Orbea Rise Mx is the best one of them all
You still favor your Orbea rise? Lots of new light bikes now a days
Got my M10 in raw L 19.8 kg. Fully racing Enduro ready ( mudguard... Stamp7, 203 rotors, bottle cage..Schwalbe super trail .)
I’ve had a Rise on demo for a couple of days, the M10.
Rinsed the battery yesterday, 30 miles & 4,000 feet of climbing. 75% in Eco, the rest in Trail. I’m 164lbs and fit.
Took it out at lunch today, 9 miles & 1,650 feet of climbing, all in Boost. Into the 2nd bar of battery.
Sounds like you had a lot of fun!
Glad to finally see a review where someone is not afraid to mention 3rd party apps to reconfigure the motor. I used the ST Unlocker but I am sure there are other apps that do the same. Only complaint with my Rise M20 was factory tires were not aggressive enough.
My Rise was delivered with a standard EP8 (not RS). So I have the full 85nm tork. A lot Of fun!! I had the bike for a year now and have no issue with the battery. Full waranty due to the fact that the bike was delivered like this from a orbea dealer brand new. And they know about the motor mixup after I contacted them about it.
dream scenario!
75Nm on this bike feels like 90 on a 3rd Gen Levo due to its better power to weight. But you will drain the battery much faster at this setting. I noticed that setting it much higher than 75Nm there is barely a difference so I think 75Nm is the max the battery can handle. I have mine set at 65Nm which feels like a full powered EP8 on a 52lb bike. When you run the range extender (252wh), the bike will only draw power from the extender and won’t touch the main battery and that Range extender’s maximum Tq is 60Nm. Setting the bike at 75Nm, there is no discernible difference between 75 and 60 so the Range extender is the bottleneck. That said, if you crank up the settings to 10 on everything at 60Nm, you will easily hang with any full fat bike
Awesome insight. Thanks for sharing! Can you link the URL for your channel so others can get your experience of playing with the bike?
@@TheBikeDads sure, bike is currently 162mm coil mullet rear, 170mm fork, 63.8 degree HT, 40.8lbs without pedals. And it absolutely Rips!!! Rear suspension feels better than the X2 on the 3rd Gen Levo I have on test..
ua-cam.com/channels/_nxmfOcKm9-oD9sbdHkNeg.html
@@mtbmike9866 Sheeeeesh!
what change do you do to get the 75? 60 is stock right?
i made mine a 160/170 mullet. rides great, and I can change it back to 140/150 in about 10 minutes (for the fork I use a Mezzer and I just enlarge the negative chamber so it takes no time). Most versatile ebike out there.
How did you set up the bike for the 27.5 rear?
@@davidbender6734 with an offset bushing, a 216x63mm shock and a 27.5 rear wheel
@@TeamCykelhold How did it change the ride characteristics? More playful or less, did grip in corners get better, etc thanks
@@Trailjunkie62 For my daily rides the 29/29 is better, mostly because of the steeper STA uphill and the reduced travel makes it more fun on tame terrain. On rough long days or self-lifted park days, the mullet is a fantastic option. Something no one talks about is how the frame is pretty flexy because it is very light. It made me go from coil option to riding a DVO Topaz on the mullet setup because the shock itself needs to be part of what makes the frame rigid, and I find that it flexes more than I like with a coil shock (very small diameter rod). The bike itself doesn't feel radically different. It's still the same bike, bit with more travel and slacker HTA.
@@TeamCykelhold How much do you weigh? Also, with mullet wheel doesn't speed limit decrease since sensor thinks its 29? Thanks!
You can still ride that on bikepark. I ride my levo sl in bike park even though it is setup for enduro ride which is a little bit heavy in 18kg
Having ridden the specialized sl I found the trail mode to be plenty of power, almost too much. I have not ridden this one but it looks amazing and would prefer range over excessive power. Gotta try it.
Orbea is releasing an aluminium version with bigger battery I believe
If you have to pick 1 bike. This orbea rise or gen 3 Levo? Just so you know your reviews are great and the video quality is phenomenal. Well done sir 👍🏼
It would depend on so many factors. I personally love full fat bikes, the weight is beneficial for suspension performance and grip plus the battery power let’s you boost around more. Love boost. They are more of a handful though so you have to be a proficient rider to throw them around. The rise is more manageable and more adaptable if you are willing to change some parts. It feels more like a regular bike if that is what you are after. They both are fantastic. The Shimano system is more reliable but Specialized warranty is fast and they seem to stock parts.
Hey man, great review!
Quick question: right now I own a full-fat e-MTB, which I use both for hitting trails and dragging both of my kids on a Hurley trailer uphill to their kindergarten (no more Shotgun for us I'm afraid...). The total extra weight for the trailer with both kids on it is around 45-50kg (100 to 110lbs). Think the Ep8 would deliver enough power to drag them up the hill?
Love the channel, guys - I run every purchase by you before I commit to it! ha.
Thanks!
I meant Burley trailer!
The detuned rise ep8 at the max power setting should be just fine for the ride to kindergarten with kiddos in the trailer. With the decrease in weight of the bike and the 60 NM ep8 it almost can hang with full fats...tune down your full fat boost mode to 75-80%, that would probably be an equal measure.
@@TheBikeDads excellent - I'll try that. thanks again!
I think you can link it with a garmen if you want a display. I love my levo sl expert, but wish it had the power of rise.
👍 Yep, you can hook to Garmin. There is also a light indicator when you hit 20% or you can also check an app. But at 36 pounds...you can also just pedal without motor.
yes, 100% agree, you can ride it just like a non e-bike, trips out often only 30% of the time with assist on, rest manual (depends on the terrain obviously)
Levo sl is a beautiful bike esp in the mat orange colour, oh my god I nearly paid up right then and there. But sadly the test ride, without ever riding an eMtb the power was disappointing. I’m simply not fit enough to make that work and for the money….rise wins. I still get the sl knocking on the back of my head wanting to come in though. And the brose motor issues didn’t help either
@@chrish8871 ended up selling levo sl and got a gen 3 levo and a yt decoy.
did you ever tow your kids with this bike? I have bought one, but not gotten it yet, and will be towing my son with it. Just wondering if you tested that, and what the battery life was like when you did.
thanks
I did. Fullly charged, kiddo ran out of battery before the bike did. Only one at a time however. I often tow two or three on my full fat ebike.
@@TheBikeDads thanks for the reply, my only kid is ~70lbs (for now) - so I should be good to go for a while, maybe by the times he's bigger I will want to upgrade to a full sized ebike.
I am a huge fan of your site and content, keep up the great work!
So does de restriction hurt the battery… ? Supposed to be smaller more compact battery cells to give the light weight, but allegedly can’t discharge quick enough to give full power without damage or shortening the battery life. Anyone experienced this?
Best review of this bike yet!
how tall are you, im inbetween sizes . large and medium
5’8
Did you end up getting a Rise? If so, how tall are you and what size bike did you get? I'm between a M and L as well!
@@chrismcreynolds9215 yes I did
I went for the medium in the end just felt large a little
On larger side and not as playful as medium, yes enjoying it
Haven’t run out of battery yet and has some long days, haven’t t needed extender pack
100% agree
If you could only have one, would it be the rise or levo?
Give me full power of ep8 then it is the Rise because of weight and diversity of frame to be a trail or enduro bike. If that’s off the table, Levo. I’m drunk on the power as I tow the kids and love buzzing around full power boost.
I got the Rise! 🙂
I quit watching at "11,000 $". E-bike industry must get real.
$6500 for working mans build.
@@TheBikeDads started at $5999 at launch but has had a $500 price increase
Check out the just launched Aluminum frame Rise H series versions - larger battery and not much more frame weight - and a really keen price.
@@mtbmike9866 might drop when supply chains cure
E=Mtb² say no more.
Why dont you talk about towing kids uphill with this ebike?
Because it’s not that good a tower unless you unlock more torque. A single kid sub 120 lbs it works pretty good if you are in decent shape but nowhere near a full fat ebike for towing multiple kids. The Shimano ep8 also requires higher cadence which makes towing a little tougher compared to Brose or Bosch.
@@TheBikeDads Would love an e-bike towing shoot-out!
@@TheBikeDads know of anyones experiences with a 3 or 4 year old mac rider on this?
@@rogersmith1470 grab the ebike adapter for the macride and you should be good to go. Alternatively, the shotgun pro out of the box will work as well. We ride our ebikes with kids off road seats all the time, great fun!
@@TheBikeDads thanks for the quick reply sorry should have been more specific with my question , currently using macride mostly on flatish trails wondering if I’m looking to get into climbs with the little one would the orbea rise (h10 less expensive aluminum) be an sufficient upgrade or would I be better off with fulfill powdered emtb like a giant trance x? Looking to get a pair of em (one for wife) without being able to test ride them so any feedback is certainly appreciated
💯 you definitely don’t need 85 nm ,this bike will climb in trail mode no problem at all , I had the Orbea Wild fs and now I have the Rise it climbs just as good cos it’s so light , the only problem I have is the brakes they’re shit!! 😂