The new Wild it’s not just a great ebike, it’s an amazing bike. I opted for the M10 model to gain more range, a lighter bike (mine is 22kg), with a Fox 170 38 at a reasonable price. This new Wild is a significant improvement in the eBike category. I've ridden over 250 miles on it, and it can now compete with ANY bike in the Enduro/All-Mountain market, not just other e-bikes. This new bike excels in climbing, descending, and playfulness, while still maintaining composure on the fastest rough sections. The review captured it perfectly by stating that this bike responds precisely to the rider's inputs. If you want a relaxed and easy ride on mellow trails, it delivers that. If you want to confidently tackle the roughest trails in your area, this bike will deliver.
This is without doubt one of the best EMTB bike reviews that I have seen, superb thoughtful content and balance, great job with the video production also….
Dude, I’ve watched about 15 reviews on this bike and you by far did the best job. Thank you for comparing it to the yeti and the Oso. That’s exactly what I’m deciding between. subscribed.
Thanks for the great review. I note you prefer the Bosch motor characteristics and particularly how it assisted you in the really steep climbs. However, could you comment on how this compares to your Rocky Mountain Altitude experience specifically in terms of traction when climbing and then downhill experiences.
I'm looking at the Wild H30 and the Specialized Levo Alloy Comp, the Wild takes the edge on the budget with current sales, with keeping $1,200 in my pocket. I lack knowledge when it comes to components, and one thing that is frustrating watching/reading reviews, is that they are all based on the higher spec'd models, not the lower end entry level or one tier up models, so it's hard to put the review into perspective. Having just watched your video from today "Do MTB Components Matter?" has me questioning, what, if anything I should consider changing on the bike. I plan to ride it stock for the first bit and see how it handles. I suspect generally I may want to upgrade the brakes, but again I'll have to see how the Shimano MT410's perform. Another consideration is using what I'd save by buying the Wild over the Levo would be to upgrade the fork to something that is better than what both bikes come with. This will be my first eMTB. I'm a heavier rider (250lbs), and generally a Novice/Intermediate skill level. I enjoy the blues pretty much at any trailhead and venturing into the blacks, though that is not without talking some walk-arounds depending on the features. I do enjoy keeping two wheels on the ground, but I have confidence on small to medium drops, hitting some small tables, and avoid gaps and doubles like the plague. In the back of my head I question whether the Wild might have me overbiked, but perhaps it may also be the perfect bike. My rides vary from anything with low elevation XC style trails to downhill parks offering a solid mix of smooth flow trials and technical terrain. Based on your review, this could be a well rounded bike for me. The 625wh battery may cause some range anxiety, but I've read that Bosch is releasing a 250Wh range extender which would be useful on some of those longer rides. Really enjoyed the review format. Nice mix of you giving a face to face commentary and your riding footage.
Thanks for the good review. My Ltd is coming next week, very excited. I test rode one and it's hard to tell how heavy it is. It just doesn't matter! I used to pedal uphill on a 48 pound VPS in the old days. Happy trails to you. What's with the cheeky people anyway. It's your show wear what you like :).
Awesome review, as usual. Very articulate. Your cadence and delivery are perfect. High production value. Add to that the knowledge… excellent!!! I’m having a hard time finding a Team to buy. Drives me nuts. The Transition Repeater is readily available tho. How do you think the two compare?
Hey thanks for the kind words. I think the Wild is probably one of the best eMTBs at the moment. Best drivesystem integration and great geo. Tough to beat.
Great review! I've just put in an order with my LBS for a WILD LTD model. But it won't be shipped until January 2024. I guess there's tons of demand for them. Really excited to have it ready for next season at least. I have an Orbea Rise to keep me entertained until then!
Great video! I have one coming my way in 2 weeks. I can’t wait. I like the studio setup in your vids! The only thing I would change is white rope to black rope
Thanks for the great video, by far one of the best & most informative that I've watched. I'm about to purchase my first emtb and after researching all brands it seems the Orbea Wild would be the best suited for my needs. Unfortunately, the M-Team is a bit out of my budget so I'm trying to decide between the Wild M10 or Wild H10 and I've struggled to find detailed reviews justifying the additional cost for the M10 and was wondering if you would have any feedback or recommendations. I'm not quite sure if it makes sense to spend the extra $1300 to try and reduce the weight for an ebike.
Thanks for this informative video. I currently drive a Rallon and the old Wld FS. The Rallon is the best bike I've ever had and now I'm considering switching to the new Wild as the bikes are so similar.
I'm really torn between the Wild and the Heckler. I'm definitely leaning towards full power for long all-day adventures. Your review/comparison videos of the Heckler have me leaning in that direction. How would you compare the Heckler to this now that you've had them around for a while?
Great review. I'm in a town where I can get either the Wild FS H25 (alloy) or the Rocky Mountain Powerplay A70. If price isn't the issue, which might you recommend for an older/experienced rider who is not riding the same things he used to but would like to? Thanks
Super in-depth review, amazing job! Your local trails look so good, too. By any chance do you know anything about the weight of the 2023 alu models? (H10 etc). I'm toying with the idea of one of those but also the Strive:on, but don't know if the customer support would be better with one over the other.
Thank you for this objectivity and thorough review. Question for you. What is your height? I am 6'1" and have always ridden large on Santa Cruz and Specialized. Do you fancy I can stay at an L frame on the Wild?
I have not. In my experience there’s usually not a huge difference between carbon and alloy frames. Minor differences, yes, but in the big picture they’re usually very close.
Hi , I want to consult with you about the size of this amazing bike, im about to order the 2024 model and my hight is 1.80 m. Im trying to figure out if I need to take the medium or large size, now im riding the 2022 wild fs on large size and I feel really good with that, but I saw that in the new geometry (2023) the reach, wheel base, stack and probably everything is larger even on the medium size comparing to the 2022 large size except the top tube length. thats why im hesitating maybe the new large size will be to big for me. Appriciate any help, Thank you, Yuval
I refrain from giving any specific size advice over the internet. It’s a crapshoot without seeing you on the bike. That said, according to Orbeas size chart, you can fit on both. Keep in mind the bike is supposed to have a longer reach, wheelbase, and taller stack. That’s by design. It wouldn’t make any sense to try to match those numbers to your old bike, as they are two completely different bikes. You can watch the “What size MTB should I buy” video on our main channel - bikers edge - if you want to see the pros and cons of sizing up vs sizing down.
Thanks a lot for youe honest answer, I will take a look on the video you suggest, you say that im not supposed to try "matching those numbers" to my old bikes it sounds for me like i should stay with the large size because if I will take the medium I will stay with the 2022 large reach and stack and I will get a shorter top tube . Any way thanks again for your quick answer!
Great review! Have you tried the alloy version? There are no reviews out there of the H model which makes it very difficult to know whether to spend a lot more money on the carbon model.
No I haven’t ridden the alloy version. That said I did a carbon va aluminum video on out main channel a while back. I’m the big picture there’s not a huge difference. If it’s my money, I’m buying the H10. Hope that helps.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Thanks very much! Orbea uses fairly decent components on the H10, whereas the H20 feels like it immediately needs fork and wheels upgrades, therefore negating any savings. I really want the M-Team, but the price is high when you compare it with the likes of the new Canyon Strive:ON.
@@th3w4nted I have the H10 and a friend got the M10. Both are amazing bikes. My bike, stock is 56 lbs. his with carbon wheels and a few other light components is 48 lbs.
@@MTB_Tcherri Thanks for the info! I ended up ordering the new Canyon Strive:ON because it was difficult to justify the big price difference of the Wild.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Have you tested the Kenevo SL? How is orbea wild down hill compere to the Kenevo SL? I have the KSL and want a full power ebike, I am in between Orbea Wild and canyon torque on (bc of travel and price). Thanks.
I’d opt for the 750 battery I think. If the race motor was an upgrade option on some of the cheaper models, I’d take it. But I don’t think I’d be buying an M-LTD model myself.
I’d refer you to the orbea size chart and or a test ride. Size advice over the internet is a bit of a crapshoot. Would hate to get you on the wrong size bike.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville 💯 sound advice… I’ve been pouring over geometry, referring to size charts and asked people who have reviewed the bike. I am landing on large at the the moment. BUT I have booked in an appointment at a local bike shop who have both the L and XL so hopefully that’ll help make my mind up. 👍
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Yeah this is an interesting one because Orbea advertised this model as 46 pounds at launch which would make it one of the lightest full fat enduro ebikes on the market. It seems like some of your comments around agility and great handling could be attributable to lower weight.
@@asavage3654I just weighed mine on my ultra-accurate $14 amazon scale so take this with a grain of salt. With pedals and a bottle cage the bike comes in at 49lb.
Originally I thought they were similar. After more miles I think the Wild rides bigger and burlier than the heckler. Doesn’t give up much on the climbs either.
Great review - seems like one of the best full power e-bikes on the market right now. Debating between this and the Fezzari Timp Peak - the value is there and component spec is top notch but seems like the bosch system is the best right now in comparison to the Shimano. Would love to see you do a review on the Timp Peak if you get the opportunity.
I was particularly interested in this particular video because I bought the Orbea Wild H20 two months ago after reading watching rave videos on UA-cam, the last bike I bought after UA-cam endorsement was the entry model Specialized Turbo Levo which I loved (2019) - got stolen! My concern is that the Ebike brands are soliciting paid reviews of their top, most expensive models from the popular UA-cam channels, tellingly these paid reviews all come out at the same time, literally. There is a big problem with this platform - the reviews profusely embellish the super expensive bikes (some of which may be true of course), however, ordinary joe like me are much more likely to buy the entry level bikes in the hope that they ride very similar to the top models. EMTB - ordinary joe/jane - middle aged with kids, short on time, relatively new to or returned to biking, investing oversized sum to feed his/her hobby. None of the top earning channels review the entry level bikes, nor do they actually say anything negative because of the conflict of interest. Hence, it is not clear, who is this bike for? The beginner, or the pro downhill enduro ace? We hear far too many numbers - so many millimetres or angles this and that (chain stay, BB, reach etc.) and not enough about how they ride and whether these bikes are value for money? Hence, the UA-cam channels are complicit in letting the industry get away with hastily thrown together lower end bikes that are seriously flawed, and still demand thousands of dollars/pounds/euros! My view after 2 month ownership is a degree of disappointment. The H20 is a monster truck, way too heavy, I did not expect that given that the top product is 20.8Kg! This is a major problem for intermediate/ early biker. The sheer weight detracts from being able to jump, turn, develop skill, and the poor fork/suspension platform can only described as dull and lacklustre. The internal battery and the ridiculous complicated headset with internal cables is just nuts. Importantly, something you did not point out - this is a front heavy bike, much more noticeable in my size small bike with big 750 battery taking up the whole length of the down tube. It is difficult to convince this bike to jump (more speed, more hop) and then control the tendency of front end dipping. Why oh why do I have to spend several thousand of hard earned cash to bring it up to speed? Should I really even try to bring the weight down - not possible. The result is that 2 months down the line, I am desperately trying to sell the bike and buy a Specialized - the market, as it is, I can't even get half price for a 2 month old bike. I do not believe the Orbea Wild 2023 Alloy models are value for money - period. It turns out, all the R&D went in to developing the carbon race winning models. There is a unhealthy collusion between industry and channels/social platforms that promote these bikes - it makes it impossible to get an honest view of products that are more expensive than the cars we drive.
@BikersEdgeKaysville longer reach and slacker head angle is what I heard, generally good but penalty on tight trails. Motor is same. Wonder if I would notice that big of a difference. These things depreciate like appliances
More stable, more balanced front to back both uphill and downhill, stiffer frame with a more responsive feel, better suspension kinematics, bigger battery. It’s improved in pretty much every way.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville play stupid games, win stupid prizes! When you choose to behave in a manner that is stupid and rude, don’t start crying when you get called out for it. Wearing a hat indoors is considered rude by all civilized people.
I mean that’s really cheap for an ebike. I’m a big proponent of buying bikes that fit your budget. That said, if it’s my money, I’m buying the Wild. Even the lower end H series will be amazing.
The new Wild it’s not just a great ebike, it’s an amazing bike. I opted for the M10 model to gain more range, a lighter bike (mine is 22kg), with a Fox 170 38 at a reasonable price. This new Wild is a significant improvement in the eBike category. I've ridden over 250 miles on it, and it can now compete with ANY bike in the Enduro/All-Mountain market, not just other e-bikes. This new bike excels in climbing, descending, and playfulness, while still maintaining composure on the fastest rough sections. The review captured it perfectly by stating that this bike responds precisely to the rider's inputs. If you want a relaxed and easy ride on mellow trails, it delivers that. If you want to confidently tackle the roughest trails in your area, this bike will deliver.
It’s easily one of the best.
I’ve got the 2021 Rise M10 is the Wild better ?
This is without doubt one of the best EMTB bike reviews that I have seen, superb thoughtful content and balance, great job with the video production also….
Hey thanks! I appreciate the kind words.
A pioneer in a new standard of bike reviews
Hey thanks!
Dude, I’ve watched about 15 reviews on this bike and you by far did the best job. Thank you for comparing it to the yeti and the Oso. That’s exactly what I’m deciding between. subscribed.
Hey thanks! Stoked you liked it.
wondering which one you got as I am currently decinding between oso and wild as well...
I did it backwards. Ordered wild m team today now getting serious about reviews to sell myself on a good decision. 😊. Great video… I’m good now.
Good choice!
Awesome review. I bought 4 bikes from Biker's Edge over the last 5 years, great place, great service, great people!
Great reviews! You seem to be able to totally get what questions i am asking in my head and give an objective view! Keep up the great work!
I stole your journal. That’s how I know.
My Wild M10 with all the good stuff is arriving today! Been waiting for it since mid February… Super stoked!
You’re going to love it!
What s the weight of stock build?
@krzysztofkowalik1465 depends on the build but low 40s to upper 50s
Thanks for the great review. I note you prefer the Bosch motor characteristics and particularly how it assisted you in the really steep climbs. However, could you comment on how this compares to your Rocky Mountain Altitude experience specifically in terms of traction when climbing and then downhill experiences.
Wanting to pull triger on a Wild, I'm 1,85m (6,1feet), between L and XL. You ride in the video XL, what is your heigth @BikersEdgeKaysville ?
I'm looking at the Wild H30 and the Specialized Levo Alloy Comp, the Wild takes the edge on the budget with current sales, with keeping $1,200 in my pocket. I lack knowledge when it comes to components, and one thing that is frustrating watching/reading reviews, is that they are all based on the higher spec'd models, not the lower end entry level or one tier up models, so it's hard to put the review into perspective.
Having just watched your video from today "Do MTB Components Matter?" has me questioning, what, if anything I should consider changing on the bike. I plan to ride it stock for the first bit and see how it handles. I suspect generally I may want to upgrade the brakes, but again I'll have to see how the Shimano MT410's perform. Another consideration is using what I'd save by buying the Wild over the Levo would be to upgrade the fork to something that is better than what both bikes come with.
This will be my first eMTB. I'm a heavier rider (250lbs), and generally a Novice/Intermediate skill level. I enjoy the blues pretty much at any trailhead and venturing into the blacks, though that is not without talking some walk-arounds depending on the features. I do enjoy keeping two wheels on the ground, but I have confidence on small to medium drops, hitting some small tables, and avoid gaps and doubles like the plague. In the back of my head I question whether the Wild might have me overbiked, but perhaps it may also be the perfect bike. My rides vary from anything with low elevation XC style trails to downhill parks offering a solid mix of smooth flow trials and technical terrain. Based on your review, this could be a well rounded bike for me. The 625wh battery may cause some range anxiety, but I've read that Bosch is releasing a 250Wh range extender which would be useful on some of those longer rides.
Really enjoyed the review format. Nice mix of you giving a face to face commentary and your riding footage.
Thanks for the good review. My Ltd is coming next week, very excited. I test rode one and it's hard to tell how heavy it is. It just doesn't matter! I used to pedal uphill on a 48 pound VPS in the old days. Happy trails to you.
What's with the cheeky people anyway. It's your show wear what you like :).
You’re going to love it. So good.
Awesome review, as usual. Very articulate. Your cadence and delivery are perfect. High production value. Add to that the knowledge… excellent!!!
I’m having a hard time finding a Team to buy. Drives me nuts.
The Transition Repeater is readily available tho. How do you think the two compare?
Hey thanks for the kind words. I think the Wild is probably one of the best eMTBs at the moment. Best drivesystem integration and great geo. Tough to beat.
Great review! I've just put in an order with my LBS for a WILD LTD model. But it won't be shipped until January 2024. I guess there's tons of demand for them. Really excited to have it ready for next season at least. I have an Orbea Rise to keep me entertained until then!
i got the H10 and its been sick, seriously good looking bike in person
Great video! I have one coming my way in 2 weeks. I can’t wait.
I like the studio setup in your vids! The only thing I would change is white rope to black rope
You’re going to love it. So good.
Thanks for the great video, by far one of the best & most informative that I've watched.
I'm about to purchase my first emtb and after researching all brands it seems the Orbea Wild would be the best suited for my needs. Unfortunately, the M-Team is a bit out of my budget so I'm trying to decide between the Wild M10 or Wild H10 and I've struggled to find detailed reviews justifying the additional cost for the M10 and was wondering if you would have any feedback or recommendations. I'm not quite sure if it makes sense to spend the extra $1300 to try and reduce the weight for an ebike.
Thanks for this informative video. I currently drive a Rallon and the old Wld FS.
The Rallon is the best bike I've ever had and now I'm considering switching to the new Wild as the bikes are so similar.
New Wild is so good. I love mine.
I'm really torn between the Wild and the Heckler. I'm definitely leaning towards full power for long all-day adventures. Your review/comparison videos of the Heckler have me leaning in that direction. How would you compare the Heckler to this now that you've had them around for a while?
I really enjoy your reviews! I was wondering which one was more fun to ride, the rise or the wild?
Great review. I'm in a town where I can get either the Wild FS H25 (alloy) or the Rocky Mountain Powerplay A70. If price isn't the issue, which might you recommend for an older/experienced rider who is not riding the same things he used to but would like to? Thanks
I honestly don’t think you could go wrong with either of those.
How would you say this bike compares to the Canyon Strive on? If you have tried it?
Hey nice review. Good to hear your take on home trails.
I’m on a 2022 Rocky Altitude PP. Straight up do you think the Bosch is better than the Dyname?
Not sure it's straight up better. Those two are at the top of my list for motors.
Do you feel his weight on jump like a big ebike or with his side playfull like you said you, the feeling si Closer with a muscular than a big ebike ?
Super in-depth review, amazing job! Your local trails look so good, too. By any chance do you know anything about the weight of the 2023 alu models? (H10 etc). I'm toying with the idea of one of those but also the Strive:on, but don't know if the customer support would be better with one over the other.
Hey thanks! All the H models we’ve weighed have come in around low to mid 50s
Thank you for this objectivity and thorough review. Question for you. What is your height? I am 6'1" and have always ridden large on Santa Cruz and Specialized. Do you fancy I can stay at an L frame on the Wild?
I steer clear of specific size advice over the internet. For what it’s worth I’m 6’2” and almost always ride XL.
Have you had a chance to test the aluminum frame version of this? Does it retain all the same ride characteristics as the carbon?
I have not. In my experience there’s usually not a huge difference between carbon and alloy frames. Minor differences, yes, but in the big picture they’re usually very close.
How does it compare to the Transition Repeater?
Hi , I want to consult with you about the size of this amazing bike, im about to order the 2024 model and my hight is 1.80 m.
Im trying to figure out if I need to take the medium or large size, now im riding the 2022 wild fs on large size and I feel really good with that, but I saw that in the new geometry (2023) the reach, wheel base, stack and probably everything is larger even on the medium size comparing to the 2022 large size except the top tube length.
thats why im hesitating maybe the new large size will be to big for me.
Appriciate any help,
Thank you,
Yuval
I refrain from giving any specific size advice over the internet. It’s a crapshoot without seeing you on the bike. That said, according to Orbeas size chart, you can fit on both. Keep in mind the bike is supposed to have a longer reach, wheelbase, and taller stack. That’s by design. It wouldn’t make any sense to try to match those numbers to your old bike, as they are two completely different bikes. You can watch the “What size MTB should I buy” video on our main channel - bikers edge - if you want to see the pros and cons of sizing up vs sizing down.
Thanks a lot for youe honest answer, I will take a look on the video you suggest, you say that im not supposed to try "matching those numbers" to my old bikes it sounds for me like i should stay with the large size because if I will take the medium I will stay with the 2022 large reach and stack and I will get a shorter top tube .
Any way thanks again for your quick answer!
Great review! Have you tried the alloy version? There are no reviews out there of the H model which makes it very difficult to know whether to spend a lot more money on the carbon model.
No I haven’t ridden the alloy version. That said I did a carbon va aluminum video on out main channel a while back. I’m the big picture there’s not a huge difference. If it’s my money, I’m buying the H10. Hope that helps.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Thanks very much! Orbea uses fairly decent components on the H10, whereas the H20 feels like it immediately needs fork and wheels upgrades, therefore negating any savings.
I really want the M-Team, but the price is high when you compare it with the likes of the new Canyon Strive:ON.
@@th3w4nted I have the H10 and a friend got the M10. Both are amazing bikes. My bike, stock is 56 lbs. his with carbon wheels and a few other light components is 48 lbs.
@@MTB_Tcherri Thanks for the info! I ended up ordering the new Canyon Strive:ON because it was difficult to justify the big price difference of the Wild.
If you had to choose a bike to buy for yourself, would you go with the Wild or the 160E?
Wild. I prefer the Bosch drivesystem.
Nice review! Can you do one review for the canyon torque: on? maybe compare w/ the O wild? thanks
Hey thanks. With Canyon being direct to consumer we wont be able to get one for review here at the shop.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Have you tested the Kenevo SL? How is orbea wild down hill compere to the Kenevo SL? I have the KSL and want a full power ebike, I am in between Orbea Wild and canyon torque on (bc of travel and price). Thanks.
We don’t carry Specialized. I haven’t ridden it.
Were you to own this bike, would you go with the Race motor or the regular one? Also, the 750 battery would give you another 4-5 miles of range?
I’d opt for the 750 battery I think. If the race motor was an upgrade option on some of the cheaper models, I’d take it. But I don’t think I’d be buying an M-LTD model myself.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Thank you 👍
Awesome video (again!)
Can you please share your fork and shock setup for this specific model?
I’m running 30% sag in the rear and about 20% in the front. I have no the the compression and rebound fairly open on both as well.
What about wild compared to fezzari timp peak?
Nice review. Curious to know how tall you are? You mention you are on an XL so how do you find the sizing?
Hey thanks. I’m 6’2”. Fits great.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville I am 6’1” and was thinking of going Large but am undecided if an XL would be better.
I’d refer you to the orbea size chart and or a test ride. Size advice over the internet is a bit of a crapshoot. Would hate to get you on the wrong size bike.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville 💯 sound advice… I’ve been pouring over geometry, referring to size charts and asked people who have reviewed the bike. I am landing on large at the the moment. BUT I have booked in an appointment at a local bike shop who have both the L and XL so hopefully that’ll help make my mind up. 👍
@@baddevotionsHey, which size frame did you eventually settle on? I'm 6'1" and purchased a Largr and it feels perfect
Does the new one allow additional battery like previous version?
As of right now there isn’t a range extender option
Definitely looks like a Wild ride. These all-mountain ebikes are so tempting.
So good
Sounds like cushcore trail and the One Up Emtb bar would really make this the ultimate weapon!
The oneup bar is going on soon. I think it will help. Conti DH casing tires are next to go on.
May i ask what height you are and what size of frame you went with?
I’m 6’2” and went with XL
Would be interesting to compare to Levo S works.
So this bike had the smaller 625 battery?
Yes
Great review! This bike is at the top of my list. How much did this one weigh?
I’ll have to weigh it. I don’t really pay too much attention to bike weight. Orbea claims it’s sub 50.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Yeah this is an interesting one because Orbea advertised this model as 46 pounds at launch which would make it one of the lightest full fat enduro ebikes on the market. It seems like some of your comments around agility and great handling could be attributable to lower weight.
@@asavage3654I just weighed mine on my ultra-accurate $14 amazon scale so take this with a grain of salt. With pedals and a bottle cage the bike comes in at 49lb.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Thank you for weighing it! Appreciate the insight and the thoughtful review!
Grsat review 😊, new propane looks 🔥
getting mine soon
Hi How tall are you and what size is the bike?
I’m 6’2” and this is XL
Im 5’10 what size should I buy
I’d refer to the Orbea size chart and a test ride on that one
Your trails look incredible!
They're certainly not bad.
Are these test Trails near Boise?
Salt Lake City
Will you be reviewing the new Transition Relay?
It’s very likely.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville Relay soon......maybe? Not a lot of reviews on this bike. 😢
Comparison between the Heckler?
Originally I thought they were similar. After more miles I think the Wild rides bigger and burlier than the heckler. Doesn’t give up much on the climbs either.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville how about playfulness? One thing I love about the Heckler is how it just sends off every rock and Jump.
Check out 7:58
Great review - seems like one of the best full power e-bikes on the market right now. Debating between this and the Fezzari Timp Peak - the value is there and component spec is top notch but seems like the bosch system is the best right now in comparison to the Shimano. Would love to see you do a review on the Timp Peak if you get the opportunity.
Hey thanks! We don’t carry Fezzari at the shop so we won’t be able to make it happen.
Very good Review 👍🏻
I was particularly interested in this particular video because I bought the Orbea Wild H20 two months ago after reading watching rave videos on UA-cam, the last bike I bought after UA-cam endorsement was the entry model Specialized Turbo Levo which I loved (2019) - got stolen!
My concern is that the Ebike brands are soliciting paid reviews of their top, most expensive models from the popular UA-cam channels, tellingly these paid reviews all come out at the same time, literally. There is a big problem with this platform - the reviews profusely embellish the super expensive bikes (some of which may be true of course), however, ordinary joe like me are much more likely to buy the entry level bikes in the hope that they ride very similar to the top models. EMTB - ordinary joe/jane - middle aged with kids, short on time, relatively new to or returned to biking, investing oversized sum to feed his/her hobby.
None of the top earning channels review the entry level bikes, nor do they actually say anything negative because of the conflict of interest. Hence, it is not clear, who is this bike for? The beginner, or the pro downhill enduro ace? We hear far too many numbers - so many millimetres or angles this and that (chain stay, BB, reach etc.) and not enough about how they ride and whether these bikes are value for money? Hence, the UA-cam channels are complicit in letting the industry get away with hastily thrown together lower end bikes that are seriously flawed, and still demand thousands of dollars/pounds/euros!
My view after 2 month ownership is a degree of disappointment. The H20 is a monster truck, way too heavy, I did not expect that given that the top product is 20.8Kg! This is a major problem for intermediate/ early biker. The sheer weight detracts from being able to jump, turn, develop skill, and the poor fork/suspension platform can only described as dull and lacklustre. The internal battery and the ridiculous complicated headset with internal cables is just nuts. Importantly, something you did not point out - this is a front heavy bike, much more noticeable in my size small bike with big 750 battery taking up the whole length of the down tube. It is difficult to convince this bike to jump (more speed, more hop) and then control the tendency of front end dipping. Why oh why do I have to spend several thousand of hard earned cash to bring it up to speed? Should I really even try to bring the weight down - not possible.
The result is that 2 months down the line, I am desperately trying to sell the bike and buy a Specialized - the market, as it is, I can't even get half price for a 2 month old bike.
I do not believe the Orbea Wild 2023 Alloy models are value for money - period. It turns out, all the R&D went in to developing the carbon race winning models. There is a unhealthy collusion between industry and channels/social platforms that promote these bikes - it makes it impossible to get an honest view of products that are more expensive than the cars we drive.
How does it compare to the previous gen Wild (if you owned that one)? Nice scenery btw, where is it?
It’s a huge improvement over the old version. It’s up to date with current geo standards now.
All the riding here is in SLC
@BikersEdgeKaysville longer reach and slacker head angle is what I heard, generally good but penalty on tight trails. Motor is same. Wonder if I would notice that big of a difference. These things depreciate like appliances
The difference in geo is pretty huge. You’re very likely to notice.
@BikersEdgeKaysville in other words more stable?
More stable, more balanced front to back both uphill and downhill, stiffer frame with a more responsive feel, better suspension kinematics, bigger battery. It’s improved in pretty much every way.
What is the most plush e-bike on the market presently? Great review!
Pretty tough to beat the Giant Reign E for the plush factor.
nice bike, but non-removable battery easily disqualifies it for me and a lot of my friends... :(
meanwhile Levo FTW !
Canyon Strive on 🤔
Stop wearing hats indoors! It’s just stupid and rude!
I’m wearing three hats at once in the next video now.
@@BikersEdgeKaysville great attitude! Congratulations to your parents for bringing up a 🫏!
I’m not the one calling folks stupid….
@@BikersEdgeKaysville play stupid games, win stupid prizes! When you choose to behave in a manner that is stupid and rude, don’t start crying when you get called out for it. Wearing a hat indoors is considered rude by all civilized people.
@@asifitmatters1 have you considered your stance on this being influenced by the fact that you may not look great in a hat?
Man if it’s gonna have a 625 I’ll just get a Marin Rift zone E 1 for half the price. 😊
Battery size isn’t everything
@@BikersEdgeKaysville would you consider a Marin rift E for $2200 ? Is it worth it at that price point ?
I mean that’s really cheap for an ebike. I’m a big proponent of buying bikes that fit your budget. That said, if it’s my money, I’m buying the Wild. Even the lower end H series will be amazing.
Man these bikes are making me consider selling my 5010 2023 and getting an e-bike. Thanks for the advice once again Connor!
How would you compare it with Specialized Turbo Levo?
Haven’t ridden that. Can’t really say.