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  • @matustrophic
    @matustrophic Рік тому +222

    I for one, would love more "Commanders We Might Eventually Get Around to Building" episodes.

  • @twurtle4136
    @twurtle4136 Рік тому +59

    I’m glad Matt let us know that 77% + 33% = 100% 49:47 😂

  • @Boblol126
    @Boblol126 Рік тому +24

    I have a Vohar reanimator deck. It’s especially sweet as a reanimator commander because not only does it give you cheap card selection, but it also can recycle your reanimation instants and sorceries in a pinch

    • @jordangroblewsky2087
      @jordangroblewsky2087 Рік тому +1

      And it doesn't even look that threatening. When commanders like Korvold and Kenrith exist, a 2-mana uncommon legendary creature with an activated ability that costs *mana* is super fair.

    • @FalseOracle617
      @FalseOracle617 Рік тому

      @@jordangroblewsky2087 And then there's Kinnan, who is two mana, in Simic, absolutely ridiculous static ability and a busted activated ability.
      If Kinnan was five or six mana, id still have built it. Silly commander.

  • @amc6169
    @amc6169 Рік тому +28

    It is important to note, Rona can only have one card exiled by her ETB at a time. every time she leaves the field it is a different card and does not remember previously exiled cards. However, she has some strange interactions with auras and equipment. If you can assemble some way to have her exile things via some ability, it still counts and they can be cast this way. This is notable as she works well with Kaldra Compleat, as if you exile an opponents creature, you can then cast that creature. It is a niche interaction, but it is cool.

    • @hopposai787
      @hopposai787 Рік тому +2

      i'm pretty sure yarok and panharmonicon can get you a second card.

    • @Jerhevon
      @Jerhevon Рік тому +2

      There's usually rules about "linked abilities". Aggravating rules.607 in the rulebook. So Rona only lets you cast cards she exiled with her ETB or her 4-mana tap ability. Otherwise Mairsil could cage an Isochron scepter and do really silly things.

    • @smtyke
      @smtyke Рік тому +2

      I think they mean: if Rona gets blinked or removed before she can cast the card(s) she exiled, the previously exiled card can’t be cast anymore because Rona is a new game object and doesn’t see them anymore.

  • @troacctid
    @troacctid Рік тому +12

    The Jasmine Boreal of the Seven deck that I initially built as a gimmicky joke ended up pleasantly surprising me by how fun and effective it was. I think her mana ability is a trap, and vanilla creatures suck. However, her second ability makes most creature tokens functionally unblockable, and that has actually led to a really cool take on a Selesnya Tokens build focusing on saboteur effects, as well as the Monarch and the Initiative. There are a lot of go-wide commanders in that color pair that are probably more exciting, so it makes sense that she would be crowded out. But I definitely underestimated her, and I bet others are underestimating her too.

  • @ALTR_no_EGO
    @ALTR_no_EGO Рік тому +72

    Gentlemen... If you do get around to an all Titania pod, it should be titled "Clash of the Titanias". 😂

  • @EpicGamerz01
    @EpicGamerz01 Рік тому +3

    One thing to note about Polukranos: it is in green, so it has some access to Shield Counters, and being able to put a shield counter on him can allow him to fight once without losing any counters

  • @eskimoprime09
    @eskimoprime09 Рік тому +2

    I've found a fun way to play a lot of underplayed commanders. I've built a couple "tribal commander" decks. Basically you pick a few commanders that are all sort of doing similar things, and build a deck that would work for any one of them. Include all those commanders in the deck as well. When you shuffle up and play, pick one of those to be your commander for that game, or do what I do and pick one at random. I currently have a Selesnya tokens and a Gruul stompy deck built this way, with I think 10-15 commanders in each.

  • @Fenrirsuneater69
    @Fenrirsuneater69 Рік тому +6

    Saw ledgermain in action last night. It saved the table from a jodah the unifier deck that was about to win on turn 5. The cool thing about jodah decks is that they don't really work when jodah is an egg token instead of jodah.

  • @bryankopkin6869
    @bryankopkin6869 Рік тому +8

    Seeing the Polukranos, Unchained made me think of my Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager deck! Its a +1/+1 counter sacrifice deck and it performs really well.

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto Рік тому +1

      I gave up on my Grakmaw.

    • @bryankopkin6869
      @bryankopkin6869 Рік тому

      @@afspeellijstnaruto Dang. Sorry to hear that. Hes one of my favorites

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto Рік тому +1

      @@bryankopkin6869 it's just that it kind of needs the expensive staples to really make it work for me. Doubling Season and the like. I can proxy....but I don't like doing that when I don't own the card

  • @jordansams6240
    @jordansams6240 Рік тому +5

    I recently built a Syr Elenora, The Discerning deck with a focus on anything that lets me draw a huge amount of cards at instant speed. And holy cow is it so easy to build that as a hand size matters voltron deck where you are regularly clocking people for 15+ commander damage at once.

    • @afspeellijstnaruto
      @afspeellijstnaruto Рік тому

      I made a pauper deck with her. Gave her unblockable at one point and one shotted an edgar player in 1 vs 1. I used Aetherize the turn before though.

    • @jordansams6240
      @jordansams6240 Рік тому

      @@afspeellijstnaruto yeeeesssss, i like throwing a grafted exoskelton or corrupted consience on her to give her suprise infect as well

  • @willmcgee8379
    @willmcgee8379 Рік тому +6

    Dana starting it off with literally my favorite deck, as Rona, Disciple of Gix leads my Tezzeret deck (most Tezzeret's, cards from the Magic 2012 Tezzeret deck and other thematic spells).
    Most games I may not cast Rona, but she fills a key role for me whenever she gets back a key planeswalker or artifact I need. And yes, I love her art as well, spot on Dana!

    • @Jerhevon
      @Jerhevon Рік тому +1

      What's not to love about Rona being an Eternal Witness in the command zone? Plus a few more things legendary or artifact than one might think, and also Sagas. On MTGO I just had a Rona Grind time deck, Using her to recast and reuse all sorts of things like that that Dimir usually doesn't have access to in the graveyard.

  • @KingDavid12DT
    @KingDavid12DT Рік тому +1

    Mimic Vat is a pet card of mine. For around 25 cents, it has the ability to shut down a key piece of reanimator, or just do massive damage for just 3 mana. A staple card in any list

  • @mmartak
    @mmartak Рік тому +10

    My favorite underplayed commander is Kogla, the Titan Ape. Not only are there ways of making it combo, but there are lots of ways to use Kogla's second ability to destroy any one permanent on the board every time it attacks: Liquimetal Torque, Liquimedal Coating, Mycosynth Lattice, even Ashnod's Transmogrant.

    • @atomocene
      @atomocene Рік тому +1

      Liquimetal Torque is one of my all-time favorite cards for exactly this reason.

  • @fro5235
    @fro5235 Рік тому +6

    Dangit. The tomb sentinel thing got me too.
    It's easy to forget that cards go through the stack that way. Perils of shortcutting

    • @Chaves-yy2ij
      @Chaves-yy2ij Рік тому +3

      Really cool to have my challenge in the cast! One of those strange ones that I stumbled onto. Thanks for your work again, Joey, Dana, and Matt

  • @markbrierley6367
    @markbrierley6367 Рік тому +1

    The problem with joint exploration is that it's not the second copy, it's the third. Explore is a card and ramping on 2 is more popular than ramping on 3.

  • @curiouschao1
    @curiouschao1 Рік тому +2

    Funny, I was just brewing up Eisenhorn and my approach was going to be using a ton of cantrips, village rites variants, and things that sac creatures to destroy other creatures.
    Buut now, I gotta add a little of this artifact support..

  • @jefferymuter4659
    @jefferymuter4659 Рік тому +1

    The Ever-Changing Dane is an incredibly broken commander with a couple hundred decks

  • @samuelhowarth9994
    @samuelhowarth9994 Рік тому +1

    Mina and Denn, Wildborn, currently at 661 decks. A 4/4 for 2RG, it let's you play an extra land on your turn, and has "RG, return a land you control to your hand: target creature gains trample until end of turn."
    We have two creatures now that can turn your creatures into forests. Ashaya, and Greenwarden, I think. So not only can you do the typical Gruul landfall stuff, made better by bouncing them back to your hand, but there are board states that allow you to get more value out of your creature ETBs in Gruul!

  • @edwardphillips6945
    @edwardphillips6945 Рік тому +1

    I have a Polukranos deck! I actually put a load of self-mill/Dredge cards and payoffs in there as well as the +1 +1 counter stuff, just coz I thought Dredge didn’t see enough play in Commander. I love constantly bringing him back from the Graveyard as a beefcake.

  • @CrabBaskets
    @CrabBaskets Рік тому +2

    Commanders that I find underplayed / want to see more:
    Grakmaw, Skyclave Ravager (252 decks) - Take everything Dana mentioned about Polukranos and apply it here. I think Golgari voltron / +1 counters would be very fun. I like Grakmaw with its die clause being able to replace itself with a X/X token version and doesnt feel as bad of a loss.
    Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet - I have a feeling its price tag of around 20 bucks is why its only at 210 decks. I like that it has graveyard hate on a body (sorry Joey), and you could do Vampire or Zombie tribal. I would lean to making it Zombie tribal and feed my zombies to Kalitas to make it bigger and go voltron style.
    Tromokratis (120 decks) - ok, I am finding I just want more voltron commanders lol. Pretty mana intensive 5UU for a 8/8 that's hexproof when attacking or blocking. And you can force defending player to block with all of their creatures. I want a deck where you run cards like Sleep and Flood, and so tapping people's stuff down and beating down with a 8/8 seems like a fun time.

    • @domotoroOfficial
      @domotoroOfficial Рік тому

      i was thinking golgari voltron with vorolz
      i also have a pretty voltrony old stickfingers that plays super fun

  • @scuttlebus
    @scuttlebus Рік тому +2

    My favorite commander that should see more play is quintorius field historian. A boros reanimate deck with a very similar ability to tormod, but also acts as an anthem for spirits. There are just a lot of cool and fun synergies that i found myself playing and it’s just a fun and fair commander

    • @Thundrbeard
      @Thundrbeard Рік тому +1

      Hell yes quintorious has so much to offer. He’s reason I built a mardu deck with tormod + bruse(only for colors) focused on leaves the grave triggers.

  • @raeneghis
    @raeneghis Рік тому +1

    Flavorwise I like the Nephilim because they're weird and mechanically I like them because they're also weird (these are underplayed commanders because they do not say legendary on the card (even though they should (maro said so once so it must be true :P))). Having made and played decks for all five, gotta say that the one that activates my almonds the most is Ink-Treader, which plays a fair bit like Zada Hedron Grinder does with the bonus of copying spells to every creature on the table (not just yours) and being four color instead of monored. The wider color identity gives better options for spells that create more creature tokens for you to copy later spells onto such as croaking counterpart (zada only gets two, and both will kill any x/1 creatures (like most goblin tokens)) which lets it get out of control super fast, but my favorite FAVORITE part is that wurg gives access to enough Arcane spells for a splice build to be completely usable.
    The way Splice onto Arcane works is that as you cast an arcane spell you can pay the splice cost of any cards in your hand to add their effects to the spell you are casting. This is basically how mutate works except applied to spells and should be pretty self-explanatory.
    Kidding. Here's an example
    So let's say I cast Kodama's Reach (land ramp sorcery with the arcane subtype) and Splice the card Evermind onto it ('draw a card' card with splice onto arcane). By splicing Evermind I reveal it, but it stays in my hand (to be spliced another day) and the spell Kodama's Reach (now on the stack) has the effect of "land ramp + draw a card". Cool! DIY (overpriced) ramp that cantrips!
    Now if I had spliced Psychic Puppetry instead (tap or untap target permanent spell with splice onto arcane), I could have Kodama's Reach (+ Psychic Puppetry) target Ink-Treader, who would then copy it for every targetable creature on the field, which is the kind of wacky weirdness what makes this particular build stand out to me imho

  • @zealcrux
    @zealcrux Рік тому +2

    Aw jeez. I think I’m sold on Eisenhorn

  • @chriswhitright9097
    @chriswhitright9097 Рік тому

    I wanted to say thank you for your content. Your video on Favorite Underplayed Commanders helped me break out of my deck building rut. I built Nassari and Vohar and can't wait to break them out at my LGS. Have a wonderful holidays and thank you again for your content.

  • @andrewpeli9019
    @andrewpeli9019 Рік тому

    I have a Lu Bu, Master-At-Arms deck, partly because of my love of the Dynasty Warriors franchise and partly because he's a solid voltron commander. There are 32 decks on EDHrec for him. He's a mono-red 4/3 with haste and horsemanship for 6 mana. The horsemanship makes him nearly unblockable while the haste makes him a threat the turn he comes into play. The deck is comprised of card advantage, ramp, and things that make help him rack up commander damage. It's one my favorite decks and one that really gets underestimated at first glance.

  • @gavinforbes5645
    @gavinforbes5645 Рік тому

    I’ve got a Torgaar, Famine Incarnate deck that I really enjoy. It’s somewhat standard mono-black aristocrats with a sac outlet in the command zone, but as well as halving people’s life total you can also increase you own. Plenty of ways to pay life for things in black, and you can then sac and reanimate your Commander to gain a chunk of life back.
    I’m surprised it’s only at 256 decks, presumably people are put off by the 8MV but I don’t think I’ve ever paid more than four mana to cast it.

  • @JessBritvec
    @JessBritvec Рік тому +1

    General Marhault Elsdragon is kind of amazing. I have a deck that puts Lure effects on Stuffy Doll type creatures with General M in the 99 (Minsc is the commander just because that card fits better with the Stuffy Dolls), they make the strategy so much more viable by almost guaranteeing your blocked creatures survive combat. You can play the cheaper Lure effects that don't pump your creatures, which means you can Lure every turn (provided you have one in your hand). If I didn't want to do my Stuffy Doll idea so badly The General would be my choice.

  • @Archangel72985
    @Archangel72985 11 місяців тому +1

    Dana talking about General Marhault Elsdragon and saying that there is nothing else that encourages you to play lots of Lure effects reminded me that I am literally right now building an Enkira, Hostile Scavenger deck for my son that runs multiple Lure effects. I am even running Tempting Licid, which I think should give me some hipster points.
    I realize that the Walking Dead Lair is regarded unfavorably and that the Universes within wasn't released until with WOE, but I still think it is underplayed at 86 decks. You have an indestructible in combat commander to make everything block and clear the way for your zombie horde. A sort of anti-voltron where you are trying to get everything except one creature through.

  • @ArmadilloAl
    @ArmadilloAl Рік тому

    16:10 I got mine from the two-card Collector Booster sample packs in the Brother's War Mishra precon, so if nothing else, just keep buying precons until you get a certain mythic from a two-card pack covering Lord knows how many cards?

  • @mm234753
    @mm234753 Рік тому +1

    Hey one of those 215 Rona decks is mine! I use an artifact storm strategy though and just use Rona as another recursion piece for my wincons.

  • @thetogtube2
    @thetogtube2 Рік тому +1

    Polukronos Slaps!!! My son and I built an awesome deck with it. Super fun.

    • @thetogtube2
      @thetogtube2 Рік тому

      His deck is a bit of removal tribal… very grindy and has fun win cons like Alter of Dementia etc etc.

  • @thegreatestblood
    @thegreatestblood Рік тому +3

    I would love it if you'd cover Saverok, Deathbringer. I've switched Backgrounds for him from Criminal Past, to Cultist of the Absolute, to finally Raised by Giants. However, I've been wanting to change the deck around a little to maybe include a +1/+1 counter sub-theme. As my favorite character from the first PC game I ever played, Baldur's Gate, I really want to do him justice :D

    • @TheSilverFox442
      @TheSilverFox442 Рік тому +2

      Sarevok and Raised by Giants actually came up in a previous episode (went and checked, it's 224). Dana mentioned that in playtesting, it was a lot harder to reliably get the trigger than you might think, thanks to the abundance of sacrificeable tokens like treasures and the like that are floating around nowadays.

    • @thegreatestblood
      @thegreatestblood Рік тому

      @@TheSilverFox442 I must have forgotten about that episode. Going back, I do remember it now but yes I was aware already that getting his trigger to go off would be nigh impossible mostly because of what you said, but also because there's no card that just outright prevents sacrifice. It's a shame.

    • @TheSilverFox442
      @TheSilverFox442 Рік тому

      @@thegreatestblood Yeah, that's unfortunately out of color for that pair, since I think all the existing examples of that effect are in white.

  • @olivierdebilde4292
    @olivierdebilde4292 Рік тому

    Among the underplayed commenders I build, I like Jadar as an alternative zombie tribal leader. The extra spare body you can sacrifice for value or just attack with every turn is kinda cool. Kura is also an awesome mono green variant commander with a land matters theme (Marit Lage, Field of the dead or just Urza lands with huge haymakers). I also have a Jon Irenicus who attempts to give other people old magic cards (up to Urza block). Also a bit less underplayed but a real blast of a commande : Delina ! Roll the dice and have a blast.

  • @dapperghastmeowregard
    @dapperghastmeowregard 11 місяців тому +1

    "You don't see a lot of Golgari +1/+1 Voltron."
    Me, who built Skullbriar solely because of his interaction with Ozolith: "Pardun?" :P

  • @KingTBrew09
    @KingTBrew09 Рік тому

    One of my favorite decks I have is Stangg, Echo Warrior. Built Voltron focused with auras that have ETB and death triggers for the twin.

  • @dreddbolt
    @dreddbolt Рік тому

    > Underplayed Commanders
    - Alora, Merry Thief//Tavern Brawler
    Adventure spells featuring support from Lozhan (Dragons' Legacy), Lucky Clover, Passionate Archaeologist, Nalfeshnee, Wild Magic Sorcerer, Brainstorm, Brainstone, Conch Horn, Dream Cache, Riverwise Augur... and even the big mana value common adventure spell creatures.

  • @BDbiogamer
    @BDbiogamer Рік тому +1

    11:30 I built Nassari after the last time you guys talked about them, the deck is SWEET! I feel like they encapsulate everything I’ve come to love about Prismari’s aesthetic and strategy, and since building it I’ve also built and enjoyed so many more decks with both blue and red color identity. In my experience with the deck though, it’s kind of exhausting to play, and a real challenge to build. Trying to piece together a winning board state from your opponents’ cards while also having to carefully navigate when you should try to kill them is a challenge, because then you lose their stuff. Not to mention people don’t always appreciate you top-decking their cool things, and there are turns where you flip lands off the top and have nothing to spend your mana on. Glad to see them get the nod from you guys again though, it’s very well-deserved for how powerful and slept-on Nassari is!

  • @bobbycallaway1819
    @bobbycallaway1819 Рік тому +3

    As a (reluctantly) admitted hipster builder like Dana, I'm quite excited to hear this episode.

  • @kamakazi339
    @kamakazi339 Рік тому +2

    Hey oh! I have 2 Rona decks!
    Rona is a good Stax commander btw
    Also, I definitely took Jarina off the top of that precon for General Kudro because the third color added almost nothing and General Kudro is much better.

  • @shepherdofwolves7039
    @shepherdofwolves7039 Рік тому

    I play a Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant deck and it is based around making your board unstoppable with help from The Wanderer and other plainswalkers the give you hex proof and making your permanents invisible. The creatures I play either give me life points or can block any number of creatures.

  • @leviv168
    @leviv168 Рік тому

    I just built a gyrus waker of corpses deck, and while it's not completely there yet, I really enjoy the sort of, rough draft I have going. It's pretty fun and I've literally never seen it played before

  • @v1talsign393
    @v1talsign393 Рік тому +2

    More of these type of videos would be awesome

  • @hopposai787
    @hopposai787 Рік тому

    stenn, paranoid partisan. only has 275 decks. i recently discovered him while looking for cards for a vehicles deck i was building. he's pretty high powered artifact commander. i run him as a mystic top combo enabler. and u/w have the best arti tutors so it's pretty easy to get it out and blue has the counters for protection.

  • @SirGrimLockSmithVIII
    @SirGrimLockSmithVIII Рік тому +1

    Pulkranos Unchained also works well as a host for the Golgari side of the Ikoria mutation package.

  • @alfascorpi
    @alfascorpi Рік тому

    I like Donal, Herald of Wings, mono blue that copies non-legendary flyers as 1/1 spirits. It’s versatile, you can go the spirit route, but I just went for the general flyers. There are a lot of great 2-of’s some have great synergy as a duo. Some have just great etb of ltb.

  • @kamakazi339
    @kamakazi339 Рік тому

    Hitting the end of the video (sorry my other comment I got excited by rona). Akuta, Born of Ash is a really underrated commander for discard decks. While tiny bones and Tergrid are kill on sight type of commanders, the Inherent reanimation of Akuta lends it's self to being a pretty good voltron commander with both of the aforementioned legends as secret commanders in the 99. Equipping Akuta with just an equipment or two makes it lethal in 2-3 hits and people will be forced to use removal on it just to see it come back the next turn.
    And at the point where Akuta becomes too expensive you reach the point where Tergrid and Tinybones are almost unstoppable.

  • @Arrok
    @Arrok Рік тому

    Just on the note of General Marhault Elsdragon I'll mention that Neyith of the dire hunt from the first jumpstart set can actually get similar benefit from lure effects but in card advantage instead of a stat buff

    • @devinsdsm
      @devinsdsm Рік тому

      Neither is the only human I allow in my non-human Marhault deck. They just work so well together!

  • @sheridanharding8905
    @sheridanharding8905 Рік тому +1

    Many of my decks are helmed by fairly popular commanders, but two of my favorites are pretty unique:
    My newest deck is Imoen, Mystic Trickster//Far Traveler, focused on Initiative and blink. Imoen turns the Initiative into a better Monarch, and her Ward makes it inconvenient for opponents to deal with her. Cards like Tomb of Horrors Adventurer get MUCH better when you have ways to quickly and consistently clear dungeons. I've won most of my games with the deck, and mostly because my opponents concede in the middle of my 5th time going through the Undercity THAT TURN.
    My oldest deck is Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts. This one's been through a lot of iterations, but currently it's a hard-line control deck that relies on reanimated creatures to win the game. Teysa herself is a wincon if things go poorly, but is also an extremely effective defender, as she destroys everything that hits you and has protection from creatures to block the things you don't want to hit you.
    Teysa's only got 377 decks right now and Imoen//Traveler only 46, and while I understand why, I think both could be higher.

  • @darthemphatic4654
    @darthemphatic4654 Рік тому +2

    It's like Dana forgot Skullbriar existed. There's not a more quintessential golgari Voltron +1/+1 matter commander out there

  • @DROSTAR123
    @DROSTAR123 Рік тому +2

    i didn't even know that titania even existed o.O

  • @empurress77
    @empurress77 Рік тому

    My pick for favorite underplayed commander: Korona, False God.
    Add: a few Vows so it can't attack you, a Blazing Archon, a Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant, a Fumiko the Lowblood and the like, then watch as shenanigans ensue.
    Fun stuff. Why yes i do love janky decks.

  • @ColorwaveCraftsCo
    @ColorwaveCraftsCo Рік тому +1

    “Commanders we might eventually get around to building” doesn’t have as much of a ring to it lol

  • @blakem000
    @blakem000 Рік тому +3

    Eisenhorn + Hatred....Holy Moly!

  • @mfitkin
    @mfitkin Рік тому +1

    FINALLY one of them responds to Joey’s intro joke

  • @floor_tank_shanks4194
    @floor_tank_shanks4194 Рік тому

    My Eisenhorn deck is actually pretty fun. Just make mechanized production your win con, and enjoy pumping out Clue tokens. Stuff it full of recursion instants and boom

  • @JustABrokenToy
    @JustABrokenToy Рік тому +1

    I have a Nassari deck (never cast Uvilda) and it is quite fun to play. Stolen Strategy on a stick makes for interesting games, but as Joey said, it's a classic deck archetype in a different color identity. I love that all the red color pairs have at least one exile-matters commander: Uvilda/Nassari in Izzet, Prosper in Rakdos, Faldorn in Gruul, and Bell Borca in Boros (Liara Portyr is more popular, I suppose, but I had to look that up).
    Another unusual deck I have is an Azorius infect/proliferate deck. Not a great color for that strategy, but that's part of the novelty (and makes an infect deck much more palatable imo).

    • @pauldyson8098
      @pauldyson8098 Рік тому +1

      Speaking of, Bell Borca is my favorite underrated commander!

    • @JustABrokenToy
      @JustABrokenToy Рік тому

      @@pauldyson8098 very nice! It's an enjoyable strategy, and clearly underrated in Boros and Izzet

  • @vvsbatman12
    @vvsbatman12 Рік тому

    Ghost council of orzhova needs to see more play especially as a blink deck. It has a sac outlet built in and it blinks itself to deal 1 damage to a player but built with a reanimate sub theme it does work.

  • @BobbyBev95
    @BobbyBev95 Рік тому

    I’ve been struggling to pick a mono red commander, never thought to consider something like Nassari with two sides. That seems like it would be awesome!

  • @Enigmaessence
    @Enigmaessence Рік тому

    As someone who has a Nassari deck, I love it. But I build it as an “I play your deck” style deck. Blue gives me all the clones I need to copy what’s on the battlefield, and Nassari and similar effects take it from the deck directly.
    And Joey directly called out like half the cards in the deck.

    • @Enigmaessence
      @Enigmaessence Рік тому +1

      My favorite win with it was managing to assemble Mike-Trike from two different opponents decks

  • @raymondweiss7393
    @raymondweiss7393 Рік тому

    I generally scroll through EDHREC's 'Top Commanders' until I get past 500-600 and start looking for interesting commanders from there. My favorite hipster commanders I own and play are Triad of Fates rank #1074 (Orzhov ETB/blink/combo), Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath rank #1037 (Group Slug), Ludevic, Vial Smasher, & Obosh companion rank #1031 (odd tribal/extra turns).

  • @caasIsirhC
    @caasIsirhC Рік тому +1

    I ordered Canoptek Tome Sentinel for Chainer and kicked myself two seconds later when I remembered the same nonbo with Flayer of the Hatebound. Sigh!

  • @brendonford3838
    @brendonford3838 Рік тому

    I like the thoughts on inquisitor eisenhorn, I think I did most of that in my Tivet, seller of secrets deck

  • @MattTHEWombat777
    @MattTHEWombat777 Рік тому

    I run a Reyhan Last of the Abzan & Gilanra, Caller of Wirewood deck as a golgari +1/+1 deck that is also Hydra tribal. Super powerful because most people run single target removal nowadays and less creature boardwipes, so killing a 12/12 Polukranos just puts those 12 counters onto any other creature. Combine with Master Chef/ Raised by Giants, Pridemalkin for trample, they go ham. Granted, Slurrk is more popular because it pushes ooze tribal, but Reyhan does so much mechanical work that Gilanra being a mana dork that also can draw cards when you play 6 drops, it’s a really good deck basis. I play hydra tribal, but you don’t have to.
    Also, hipster notice, there’s only 1 deck on EDHREC for Reyhan/ Gilanra. Reyhan/ Sluurk is way more popular, but I wanna flex ahah.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 Рік тому

    I have built a Thassa, God of the Sea deck with infect. You get scry at the beginning of your turn and you can make an infect creature unblockable.

  • @DannyWaveMusic
    @DannyWaveMusic Рік тому

    One of my favorite decks is my Nihiloor theft/blink deck. It's ranked at #640 in edh rec, my play group absolutely hates this deck, so I naturally like it even more. Has a focus on theft/blink but also sanguine bond types of effects as well since i gain life and they lose life every time i attack with something they own. It's very fun to play with.

  • @jaredwonnacott9732
    @jaredwonnacott9732 Рік тому

    Dang it, now I have to build rampage/lure tribal.
    One of my favorite underrated commanders is Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner. There are a lot of attack triggered pumps and damage doubling effects in red. You make your little 1/1 goblin unblockable for just a single mana, then pump it up to a 7/1. Oh, and it has double strike, and red sources deal double damage. Enjoy taking 28 damage from a 1/1. And that's not even taking her ability to draw cards or the fact that there are several red or colorless cards with infect.
    (Also, Joey, don't complain about my Cultural Exchange challenge. I challenged it as a Wilhelt addition. You should be stealing Matt's stuff.)

  • @stickoIogy
    @stickoIogy Рік тому +5

    Please make a vid about Jon Irenicus, Shattered One! It's a really cool commander and it has a really fun niche

    • @shaetane
      @shaetane Рік тому

      No one needs to know about him my friend plays that deck and I stg black has horrendous creatures to give, he definitely stands up to zedruu D:

  • @KensanOni
    @KensanOni Рік тому +4

    Lulu, Loyal Holiphant +Guild Artisan is just a powerhouse. Build it around of the Abzan outlast bonus creatures, and other rappers, swing with Lulu against the player with most health, just sad the treasure, and your board gets ridiculous in no time flat. I love this Commander, and it takes little effort to make it great.

  • @loganfendt4197
    @loganfendt4197 9 місяців тому

    Currently have a Vohar Cpedh deck and he’s a monster. He’s just straight value and you don’t need to rely on him. And currently I’m building a human tribal Kudro Midrange/Go Wide

  • @CaptainVryce
    @CaptainVryce Рік тому +1

    With Inquisitor Eisenhorn, if you can make him unblockable and have a Tamio's Journal then you're tutoring every turn.

  • @rensharomtg5615
    @rensharomtg5615 Рік тому

    I recently started watching many of the past videos and I'm so happy to see one of my commander decks showcased. GO Polukranos ❤

  • @jmanwild87
    @jmanwild87 Рік тому

    42:10 the only other decks were you want to force lure effects would be something like Neyith or more notably Sisters of Stone Death the former for draw the latter because the sisters get to remove and later steal the best thing's blocking it.

  • @HauntedOnee
    @HauntedOnee Рік тому

    So I have a Voltron +1/+1 Counters Polukranos Unchained deck! I'm ecstatic to see you guys talking about it! Very underplayed and wish players could see the potential! Great video guys!

  • @michaelknopf3817
    @michaelknopf3817 Рік тому

    I built Mina and Denn as a valakut deck. Just hide behind a glacial chasm and with M&D and storm cauldron you never don’t have a mountain to play. Copy valakut as many time as you can and you totally chip damage people out slowly or go for blowout wins with cards like boundless realms/reshape the earth/new frontiers/collective voyage/scapeshift

  • @xellsunday
    @xellsunday Рік тому

    I think joint exploration is actually better than growth spiral. because you guarantee the land drop through the scry2

  • @KyleNakre
    @KyleNakre Рік тому

    Etrata, the silencer is on my list. Maybe less in commander and more in brawl on arena. There are a lot of cards that make her good now like spark double, semblance scanner, ninjutsu cards, sinister reflection, holographic double, lithoform engine and just bounce spells. I dont see her enough. Not to mention if anyone mutates their stuff you get a counter for each creature in the mutation stack.

  • @khalidmubarak3879
    @khalidmubarak3879 Рік тому

    When i saw Vohar i went my Kess reanimator deck would really love this utility creature for binning creatures or spells

  • @furonet138
    @furonet138 Рік тому

    21:15 "Plus-one counters Voltron isn't really strategy you see in Golgari colors"
    *Skullbriar would like to know your location*

  • @Toasty373
    @Toasty373 Рік тому

    I just made an Anafenza the foremost deck. Pretty interesting ways to spill and kill

  • @spurcalluth6300
    @spurcalluth6300 Рік тому +3

    B can make an urn burn.

  • @williamcastro4440
    @williamcastro4440 Рік тому

    Love Dana's deck ideas! EDH would benefit from more unique ways of player expression through niche cards/abilities. Need more!

  • @SamuelKacerik
    @SamuelKacerik Рік тому

    My suggestion for underplayed commander would be Zalto, Fire Giant Duke dungeon deck. If no one ever realised he is basically BDSM commander with his own dungeon. Pingers are self explanatory. There is handfull of stuff like Leather Armor etc. But you get bonus points if you persuade your friends to let you play Rod of Spanking which is not legal, does absolutely nothing but is thematic af.

  • @felmare101
    @felmare101 Рік тому

    I am including wizard class in order to keep jin in the deck to allow us to draw and have no maximum hand size

  • @shaylic3795
    @shaylic3795 Рік тому

    Definitely slotting Nasari into my Pako and Haldan Deck

  • @Will_Morand
    @Will_Morand Рік тому

    45:27 Joey really went “Time to fight back against the Dad Jokes with Dad Mannerisms”

  • @darkor7858
    @darkor7858 Рік тому

    In the polukranos segment how did you forget about my boy skullbriar as a +1/+1 counters commander in golgari

  • @daguynexdoor
    @daguynexdoor Рік тому

    It's crazy how many decks I say "I'll totally get to building this, right after I build these other 3 decks." Then repeat the process every month or so whenever there are new Commander cards printed

  • @andrewsparkes6275
    @andrewsparkes6275 Рік тому

    31:29 - "Don't run good stuff; no-on tries to take it" is the basis of my Amareth deck: Just plenty of crappy 3-4cmc "Make a token"/"Draw a card" understatted ETBers that do nothing once they're on the board...becaaause my playgroup loves theft effects even in non-theft-centric decks. So for Mind Control or "You may cast by paying mana for it" theft effects my creature base is mostly unstealable, and even for Etali free-cast theft, they're usually not worth too much on their own being stolen here and there anyway. It works for my deck though because I can churn through the creature-heavy deck at an alarming rate with Amareth, and once I have a whole board of those unloved misfits and drop one of three evasive and/or buffing fatties (currently Pathbreaker Ibex, Steel-Plume Marshall and Thorn Elemental) and cast Mirrorweave, Sakashima's WIll or Echoing Equation on it, the sum becomes way greater than the crappy little parts!

    • @andrewsparkes6275
      @andrewsparkes6275 Рік тому

      I just realised my reply was a little too specific to my own deck...but that said, the wider lesson I've learnt is just don't overload your decks with stealable spells, else you'll be the main target if anyone does have a theft deck. Use the minimum possible amount of powerful win-cons and combo pieces you need in terms of redundancy, then load the rest of your deck up with normal fair draw/ramp/extra resources like tokens on creatures you can use for chump blockers. That way if people do wanna steal your deck, the chance of them hitting anything on the board is low unless/until you've commited to the win-con/combo turn and got foiled, or got extremely lucky off an Etali-style effect. Not every card in your deck needs to be (or should be!) the most high-powered stuff! It helps you fly under the radar if it isn't!

    • @andrewsparkes6275
      @andrewsparkes6275 Рік тому

      Alsooo, to carry on the ramble, Amareth is underplayed too. Probably because each archetype it can do is done better or more famously by other commanders; Chulane for creature value (this was the other choice for my commander but would have inspired too much hate), Tuvasa for Enchantress (though I'd argue unless you're going Voltron, Amareth is better as it can draw more cards), Roon for blink value. But even though I love my deck, I feel it is most primed to be the only real Bant Landfall commander out there. Load up your deck with 40+ lands and you'll be drawing an extra card 40% of the time, along with all your other triggers!

  • @shaydeinsun
    @shaydeinsun Рік тому

    Anax and Cymede + Crown of flames/ flickering ward + tons of mana = Boros overwhelming stampede.
    Put in a ton of mana rocks. Put in a ton of token generating cards. God eternal oketra, all the krenko’s, a secure the wastes

  • @Metherel
    @Metherel Рік тому

    Was surprised to hear a Kevin Leverone reference lmao hell yeah!

  • @ZachtheUnbowed
    @ZachtheUnbowed Рік тому +2

    The strixhaven flip legends make me sad…. I really think they should’ve been separate cards that partnered with each other. I think they would be more played if that were the case

    • @vincent-antoinesoucy1872
      @vincent-antoinesoucy1872 Рік тому +2

      I know right! They are just interacting with each other, it's not bad to play one side, it is just sad, you see that you don't get the interaction.

  • @theonedraven8007
    @theonedraven8007 Рік тому

    triad of fates counters matter or etb. new capenna/ozolith and all the untap target legendary support made them viable

  • @seaweedsoupmeowington9429
    @seaweedsoupmeowington9429 Рік тому +1

    a friend has a CRAZY ppolukranos deck

  • @moxcardboardtv8797
    @moxcardboardtv8797 Рік тому

    Discussion actually starts @7:00

  • @dougrogers8259
    @dougrogers8259 10 місяців тому

    This Sunday!!!
    Titania-Mania!!!
    Watch this avatar crush Crush CRUSH the competition with an unrelenting pounding of 5/3 elementals.
    Be there as lands are played from graveyards, go into graveyards or just plan exile themselves!!!

  • @SuperRyanDarcy
    @SuperRyanDarcy Рік тому

    Volrath the fallen as a Voltron / mass reanimation commander
    Fill your graveyard with massive creatures and give him fear / intimidate to kill someone. Then if he gets removed start reanimating big black flyers from your graveyard :)

  • @VinnieKielbasa
    @VinnieKielbasa Рік тому

    49:59 Advanced math with Matt. "Good job 77% of deck builders. 33% get with the times."

  • @afspeellijstnaruto
    @afspeellijstnaruto Рік тому

    That Chulain example in the beginning was golden.
    I made a super shitty deck with him at the helm and used cards I just had lying around.....and it is still freaking bonkers.

  • @strangebynature2798
    @strangebynature2798 Рік тому

    the scary thing with a Marhault deck would be to drop in Nature's Revolt and Titania's Song for total board domination