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  • @UnreasonableOpinions
    @UnreasonableOpinions 10 місяців тому +16

    The cards I end up cutting immediately are ones that I put in because I got too deep in the weeds of Magical Christmasland, and how theoretically powerful cards are when I have particular board states and fancy interactions. When I get them they come out by themselves, and then... just do nothing. Now I have a rule of synergy-seeking that any card in a deck has to be good when it's just by itself, unless it also has the potential to instantly end the game without much other support.

  • @chaffenbake
    @chaffenbake 11 місяців тому +59

    Talking about win-more cards was brief, but could that be flushed out into a full episode in the future? What defines a win-more card, what some of the most played ones are (and commanders that could actually use them outside of win-more situations), etc.

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 10 місяців тому

      March of the ents is a win more card. Someone played it in a miirym sentinel wyrm deck and that deck didnt need a wild finisher like that when green already has access to ramping fast, bullying you with dragons fliers and just outpacing you if uou cant remove it before you really get setup.

    • @09419
      @09419 10 місяців тому +1

      Last March of the ents is an ok card outside of a dragon or either big beefy creature deck. It works great in a big butts deck like a treefolk deck

    • @MultiEeeeeeeeee
      @MultiEeeeeeeeee 10 місяців тому +2

      I've recently read that Second Harvest is in fact a win-more card, since it generally works properly only when you already have a pretty big token population on the field.

    • @09419
      @09419 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MultiEeeeeeeeee it usually is, sometimes it's needed to get the last 10 or so power on the board, but generally there should be better options. Oddball token stars like esix of course are exceptions.

    • @swoppydo3794
      @swoppydo3794 10 місяців тому

      Read into "quadrant theory" for limited formats and extrapolate from that

  • @DonTheKoala
    @DonTheKoala 11 місяців тому +238

    Lidless gays was a better dad joke that the vegetable ones, I hate to break it to you Matt

    • @Mushroomhaus0001
      @Mushroomhaus0001 11 місяців тому +10

      oh my god I just understood this

    • @liammanning8334
      @liammanning8334 10 місяців тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

    • @jeffe2267
      @jeffe2267 10 місяців тому +8

      Joey goes an episode without mentioning that he's gay, challenge level impossible.

    • @tatesmith4527
      @tatesmith4527 10 місяців тому +22

      ​@@jeffe2267 It's actually the 1st time I've heard about him being gay, but perhaps it's because I don't get all of the dad jokes (I'm not a native speaker) ! I'm glad he is, and he's so casually open about it, as it should be !/

    • @ValatY
      @ValatY 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@jeffe2267this is literally me just finding out about it as I've not heard him mention it before

  • @bartoffer
    @bartoffer 11 місяців тому +78

    Probably the smoothest challenge the stats segway I've ever seen tbh, props to Matt

  • @vgpatman9728
    @vgpatman9728 11 місяців тому +95

    Lmao that lidless gaze joke made me laugh way too much

  • @cfrydlewicz
    @cfrydlewicz 10 місяців тому +6

    I focus on the FEELING I get when I draw the card in context. Relative to each deck, I imagine how it'll feel for me to see a card in my opener, in midgame, or late game when I'm top-decking. And however that makes me FEEL is how I determine those final cuts.

  • @matthewtaylor6829
    @matthewtaylor6829 7 місяців тому +3

    Important to remember that these experiences are personal. I just played a game yesterday where for about 10 straight turns in a row, my opponents cast two spells per turn. I know because one player had Mangara and was triggering it every turn. I remember thinking " man i wish i had a Monologue Tax right now"

  • @greekPharaoh666
    @greekPharaoh666 10 місяців тому +19

    I've started actively cutting cards from my decks that i don't want to play against. Trying to be the change i wish to see in other people

    • @MickeyYeahbaby
      @MickeyYeahbaby Місяць тому +1

      This is the way. I have a mono blue Urza deck i call ‘Fishin with da boys’ which is powerful artifacts and sea monsters. I *refuse* to put in any of the infamous orbs and stax pieces that fit in that deck, such as Winter and Static Orb, despite my friends urges.

    • @princeofrain1428
      @princeofrain1428 12 днів тому

      I removed Hullbreaker Horror from my N'ghathrod deck for this very reason. Everybody groaned when it came into play, and I know I'd hate to have all my shit bounced so I just...took it out.

    • @mrj3711
      @mrj3711 9 днів тому

      I tried that for a few years. It didn't work for me. I ended up leaning in to a board wipe tribal. U get no lands creatures or any permanents. Don't target any of my schit or I'm blowing up everything. I can usually start clearing everything by turn 4 or 5. Scoops follow a few turns later. (It never out right wins)

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 11 місяців тому +6

    I thought the exact same thing about leyline immersion as well matt

  • @UrielColeridge
    @UrielColeridge 11 місяців тому +13

    I cut Expropriate from my Yuriko list when I first played it and realized it would never do the cool thing of taking extra turns/permanents - people would just scoop.

  • @MegaGrip13
    @MegaGrip13 11 місяців тому +10

    9:03 Yes! Vesuvan Drifter has a very important place in Kenessos, Priest of Thassa. It is an all star in that deck! Especially with brainstorm/worldy tutor shenanigans to set your top card to be a huge sea monster.
    You can worldly tutor up a spawning kraken for instance, attack with drifter (now a spawning kraken with flying) and then activate kenessos before combat damage to get two 9/9 krakens. It is HILARIOUS (for you).

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 11 місяців тому +1

      Sorry, u lost me at Brainstorm

    • @deadNdivine12
      @deadNdivine12 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@brendans1983same.. draw and set the trigger probably?... I'd rather cut brainstorm doesn't need to be played as much as it does.

    • @MegaGrip13
      @MegaGrip13 11 місяців тому +3

      @@deadNdivine12 @brendans1983 No way you two are calling brainstorm bad. The commander here, Kenessos likes the top card of your deck to be a kraken. So you pay a blue, put the two krakens that you can't cast on top of your deck, draw three new cards to replace them and activate Kenessos to slam one into play. All at instant speed. The card isn't in there just for Vesuvan Drifter. It synergizes with the commander as well as all the scry effects in the deck so you don't lock yourself which is the only downside to brainstorm.

    • @brendans1983
      @brendans1983 11 місяців тому

      @@MegaGrip13 noone said Brainstorm is bad

    • @MegaGrip13
      @MegaGrip13 11 місяців тому

      @@brendans1983 ah okay. Still brainstorm is far less egregious than worldly tutor. Lmao.

  • @garethhughes4437
    @garethhughes4437 11 місяців тому +16

    Great episode, and the Lidless Gaze joke was perfection!

  • @rcarlson787
    @rcarlson787 11 місяців тому +67

    Fierce Guardianship. Not because it was bad, but I felt bad casting it. Even among "free" counterspells, it is TOO free.

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve 10 місяців тому +11

      Would have been much more balance if it targeted spells targeting your commander for free instead.

    • @kylegonewild
      @kylegonewild 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Leivve If it *has* to be free, then do something like having to actually put your commander back in your command zone, maybe with a one-time discount to casting cost to offset the commander tax if you wanted to be generous. Far less oppressive.

    • @Leivve
      @Leivve 10 місяців тому +1

      @@kylegonewild in commander, something targeting your commander specifically is already a super niche effect. Most methods of dealing with a commander are counter spelling it before it hits the field, or blowing it up as part of a nuke. Very rarely do people throw something like a sword to plowshears at a commander, because commanders come back.

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 10 місяців тому +1

      Its also because you cant read when its coming so even when your opponent is tapped out and think its safe to play, when its really not with fierce guardianship. That was the one time i got hit by it and i was actually kinda pissed off when it happened. Its a dirty card because you cant play around what you cant see unless your playing like a thoughtseize or something

    • @HarmonicResonanceScale
      @HarmonicResonanceScale 10 місяців тому +5

      ​@@mibbzx1493the free cast commander spells are a disaster of card design.

  • @eddiekalista3222
    @eddiekalista3222 Місяць тому +1

    Monologue Tax: I have a group hug deck that, among other things, gives everyone extra mana and draws on their turn. Monologue Tax is amazing, because everyone has the resources to play extra spells, so I’m coming back to my turn with several treasures, which gets me to my win condition bombs very quick. It also helps that my pod has up to 6 people, so having an extra five mana when my turn hits is always nice.

  • @AaKkisa
    @AaKkisa 11 місяців тому +149

    I once cut an entire deck because it was far too strong for my playgroup. Sleep well sweet Elsha of the Infinite.

    • @Durtaz
      @Durtaz 11 місяців тому +9

      Pouring one out

    • @demeyesoftheuniverse8170
      @demeyesoftheuniverse8170 11 місяців тому +15

      *cries in Beamtown Bullies* 😭😭😭

    • @nanoacido5174
      @nanoacido5174 11 місяців тому +9

      I do that a lot :/ every spellslinger deck ever made goes to the I can never play this bin

    • @chaserichards7487
      @chaserichards7487 10 місяців тому +4

      Make it Monk tribal

    • @cassiemay2397
      @cassiemay2397 10 місяців тому +2

      I once did this with a Pramicon, Sky Rampart deck, turns out players don’t generally like 3 hour games of no combat from turn 3 on

  • @froggystrap1232
    @froggystrap1232 10 місяців тому +7

    Monologue tax is great! It’s never removed like Smothering Tithe and make like 5-10 mana each game

  • @BrootalMetalBanjo
    @BrootalMetalBanjo 9 місяців тому +5

    My favorite cunning rhetoric moment was when I countered a friends spell with memory lapse, he got mad attacked me thus giving me the card I countered. It was the perfect moment for my sphinx deck

  • @jacquesdespadas
    @jacquesdespadas 10 місяців тому +6

    More in the vein of Matt’s first example: Worldslayer equipped to Zurgo Helmsmasher not only did the Worldslayer return to the box never to be seen again, but the whole deck was deconstructed.

  • @elguapobandito2833
    @elguapobandito2833 11 місяців тому +7

    I actually had a positive experience with monologue tax last night, In my Marneus Calgar deck.
    With my commander in play it generated five treasure tokens, and drew five cards.
    I bought a pack shortly after ended up pulling a Lotho and swapped it out immediately after

  • @CrabBaskets
    @CrabBaskets 11 місяців тому +13

    At first glance I thought Kaho, Minamo Historian was bonkers for my spellslinger deck. I found it was just too slow for what I was wanting to do, so it got cut after trying it once.

  • @dwpetrak
    @dwpetrak 9 місяців тому +3

    Monologue Tax is the version of Smothering Tithe that doesn't make people hate you.
    When I see a player use Monologue over Smothering I respect them.
    When I see a Smothering tithe I immediately try to hate them out of the game 'cause they are up to

  • @Littlewh0
    @Littlewh0 5 місяців тому +1

    The discussion of Vodalian Wave Knight I've also had with similar cards. I now have my own deckbuilding rule - the deck either makes token or it makes counters but it doesn't do both

  • @Gahanun
    @Gahanun 11 місяців тому +14

    Monologue Tax could be pretty neat with a commander that lets each player cast a spell for free repeatedly or something like that.

    • @KingJulius4
      @KingJulius4 11 місяців тому +9

      I run it in Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis deck. When you're giving everyone extra draw and land drops they play multiple spells pretty often. And when you consider all of the token doublers in the deck, it easily becomes worth the play.

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 10 місяців тому +3

      The new rocco street chef it would be sweet in

    • @elmoisamac
      @elmoisamac 10 місяців тому +1

      I run it in a treaures deck. It is great in that deck, but I wouldn't put it in a different deck.

    • @Avusui
      @Avusui 3 місяці тому

      @elmoisamac it's good in a control deck with a lot of interaction. People might have a counter or protection for their big spell, and monologs tax gives those tax breaks to have mana for that 2nd counterspell to their plans. It also has the stigma for being bad so it goes untouched mostly, nets me a lot of mana in my azorious control.

  • @doctorrobz
    @doctorrobz 11 місяців тому +11

    Best comment from Matt in this episode : cut the cards that makes you “win more” 👌🏻

  • @ThaMobstarr
    @ThaMobstarr 10 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for making these videos! I love the analytical, but still very light-hearted and fun atmosphere that you create, when you are talking with each other about the various cards. And I learn something new with each video. Thanks guys and gals!

  • @raven6717
    @raven6717 10 місяців тому +1

    I love these observations because for example: Restoration of Eiganjo is one of my best feeling cards in my Ephara, God of the Polis deck, where it ends up doing just about everything I could ever want it to: hit landdrops, ramp or reanimate key pieces, enter later as a creature and make tokens for even more ephara triggers? (evenhelps me with rule of law effects that are fairly common in my playgroup).
    All while at the same time it was a good cut for you.

  • @dragonlord951
    @dragonlord951 11 місяців тому +5

    My instacut was Boros Battleshaper. I did not need to deal with identifying two targets every battle step. Loved it’s performance but no thank you to the mental upkeep.

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 10 місяців тому

      Good cut anyways because it cost too much and there are other cards that do it for cheaper in boros colors

  • @IchigoKurosaki011
    @IchigoKurosaki011 11 місяців тому +3

    Vesuvan drifter, as vesuvans are in general, is made for cloning decks. Works great in those.

  • @rocker1296
    @rocker1296 8 місяців тому +1

    I put a monologue tax in a custom commander deck that I based on my DnD Bard, the card is meant as a "I'm the one who is suppose to be talking" flavor card in the deck, and maybe it's just the people i normally play with, but that card has produced me so many treasure tokens. I find that people want to do multiple things in a turn, and making me one treasure doesn't feel punishing enough for my opponent, so it ends up pretty low on the removal priority.

  • @Aerix
    @Aerix 11 місяців тому +3

    InstaCut maskwood myself from my minsc & boo timeless heroes deck. The prospect of card draw on any of my minsc flings was cool, but... There has been games where if i minsc flung my biggest creature to close out a game, i would have draw out my deck if it were a hamster.

  • @NightOfCrystals
    @NightOfCrystals 11 місяців тому +15

    Joey’s joke was a banger! Well done Joey 😂

  • @The_MechaGojira
    @The_MechaGojira 10 місяців тому +1

    Battle Angels of Tyr is one I had to take out after my first game with it. It was just a lot of work to keep track of everyone's hands, land base, life totals and etc to see what triggers I get.

  • @0ViciousV0
    @0ViciousV0 5 місяців тому +1

    Attempt?! That Joey, was absolute fireee🔥💯😂

  • @omegacyborg
    @omegacyborg 10 місяців тому +3

    Bravo Joey, amazing Segue into Challenge the stats :D

  • @CreationEdge
    @CreationEdge 6 місяців тому

    I play a lot of counter/token heavy decks, and switched to a new system where I keep a tray of those glass gaming stones (half marbles) of different colors, and I just quickly grab and drop them into play during my turn instead of trying to find token cards or upticking dice. Rifling through tokens and spinning dice or upticking spin counters is SO slow. Instead, say Cathars' Crusade triggers, I will very quickly drop a stone on each of my creatures. I use green stones for +1/+1 counters to match my green dice. And it takes almost no mental attention to do, so I can continue taking other game actions while absent-mindedly dropping stones. I just need to grab the right color stones, and tell my play group what the colors mean (like Red is Treasures, Black is Clues, Blue is Time Counters). Then AFTER my turn, I'll clean up my board and replace stones with proper tokens and dice. This greatly speeds up my turns and makes my board state clear to everyone.

  • @Saint_Ada
    @Saint_Ada 11 місяців тому +3

    Hallowed Moonlight is the one for me, i drew this card, looked at my battlefield and saw that i was playing a reanimator deck and imediately realized, that card could force me to not make any other play on the turn i cast it, then i realized that half my decks are reanimators and the other half are tokens, so none of my decks could support this card

  • @Durtaz
    @Durtaz 11 місяців тому +1

    I’d bring up an example, but honestly I have so many that I can’t pick just one. Any painful quandary effect, dockside extortionist, monologue tax, and many many phyrexian and ashnod’s altars. None of them hit right with the table. Either too powerful or did very very little. That doesn’t even include all the entire decks that I’ve built and hated and decided to cannibalize. The more it happens, the less frequent it becomes and I love it! The decks were still fun, and the cards will almost always have another use.

  • @oals29
    @oals29 10 місяців тому +2

    I moved Maskwood Nexus from the party deck to the mind flayers deck. It's kind of horror typal, kind of mill, kind of reanimate/stealer deck, so the Nexus (and Arcane Adaptation as backup) helps by turning the creatures you steal into horrors.

    • @mibbzx1493
      @mibbzx1493 10 місяців тому

      Yea i can see this since they dont have alot of support for horrors but its a cool type of creature

    • @BIGNEILCOUSINS
      @BIGNEILCOUSINS 10 місяців тому

      Typal ?

  • @XenoMike
    @XenoMike 5 місяців тому

    I'm glad you started the video with a card that wasn't underpowered, but instead just annoying to use at a table. There are so many objectively good cards that I don't use in my decks for the exact same reason: I don't want to waste everyone's time while I try to do complicated math.

  • @delailama736
    @delailama736 11 місяців тому

    Most combos I play are play once and then cut. I like knowing they are in the deck and I never force them with tutors, I just wait for them to come up naturally. I like to switch it up once something has been pulled off.
    The one card I have removed immediately from a deck is Kormus Bell from Toxrill.

  • @chummer2060
    @chummer2060 11 місяців тому +2

    Bothersome Quasit is in my Blim deck. Great for keeping threats away from me and getting attacks through.

  • @bye1551
    @bye1551 10 місяців тому +1

    15:53 omg I love joey so muchhhhh. Icon. Absolute icon

  • @Renamawn
    @Renamawn 10 місяців тому +1

    Wrenn and six was one I thought was amazing in modern but didn't fit in my hasazon desert tribal deck.

  • @CherryDad
    @CherryDad 10 місяців тому +1

    Not only does Magda care about Dwarves, but Nexus also allows you to search for any creature as if it were a dragon

  • @brendans1983
    @brendans1983 11 місяців тому +2

    10:58 actually playtest the card before you commit to purchasing it. Wish id done that before i bought a Savannah for my Orzhov deck...

  • @VagrantKing
    @VagrantKing 10 місяців тому +1

    Joey I’m only thirty seconds in, get out of my head, I also thought of Sam and the potatoes and couldn’t get it out of my head before you even said it 😂

  • @ketchumall8243
    @ketchumall8243 10 місяців тому +1

    Burakos, party of 4 with Folk Hero sounds like a great deck. Really makes me want to build it

  • @someguy1ification
    @someguy1ification 6 місяців тому

    I have Restoration of Eiganjo in my Kykar, Wind's Fury deck. It definitely has a lot more value if you aren't playing green, as it lets you find a plains out of your deck.. then discard it and put it onto the field from your graveyard. white land ramp is real... but tom bombadil has access to green doing it better.
    it also recovers my Impact Tremors and other low mana synergy pieces if they get killed

  • @blackdragonepic
    @blackdragonepic 11 місяців тому

    lidless gaze every time I have played has been amazing. The important part is you slap it down when you haven't yet played your land for turn.
    Easily from my experience each time I've cast it, it's been draw 3-4 cards.

  • @CaptainVryce
    @CaptainVryce 10 місяців тому +1

    I added leyline immersion to my Kalamax deck and it's amazing; protection, mana, tapping Kalamax at will, it does it all.

    • @tazaf
      @tazaf 10 місяців тому

      Oh! Didn't think of Kalamax when putting the card in my whishlist, but that makes a LOT of sense!

  • @jasonritner9662
    @jasonritner9662 10 місяців тому

    Maskwood Nexus is such a great card in my Admiral Beckett Brass deck. It makes sure everything her pirates pressgang able to grant their bonuses to my field, it also makes sure that everything I have counts as a pirate as well so I can keep pillaging.

  • @raonair
    @raonair 5 місяців тому

    Dude, cutting Vodalian Wave-Knight? Starting the episode with a stab to my heart already. It's one of my favorite cards in my Sidar Jabari deck. I'd recommend playing in a deck not focused on tokens, that way you only need to put dice on actual cards, instead of tracking different tokens with dice for both token quantity and counter quantity.

  • @ACertainGuy0
    @ACertainGuy0 6 місяців тому +1

    I will fight you on this Matt: Monologue Tax is a great card. I use it along with Mangara the Diplomant in my Darien, King of Kjeldor list and i get insane value over the course of a game. I get that its lukewarm compared to the insanity that is Tithe but I think youre overselling how mid the card is, when it is there for consistent value.

  • @Hamond1989
    @Hamond1989 11 місяців тому +1

    I really liked the idea of including Brindle Shoat in one of my token decks (without sack outlets mind you) after having some great experiences experimenting with Reef Worm. Turns out neither the spawning Boar did much when board wiped nor did it prevent people from attacking for chipdamage due to wanting to pop it for bigger stuff, was for some reason more disappointed then I should have been^^'

  • @ellahazan-fuchs7249
    @ellahazan-fuchs7249 11 місяців тому

    A recent one of mine is Horn of Gondor in my tokens deck. I realised quickly that even though my commander (queen allenal) makes the etb better I need more humans.
    I also agree regarding Cathar's crusade. I cast it as an overrun, otherwise it takes forever.

  • @ethanhughes3515
    @ethanhughes3515 11 місяців тому +2

    Hey Joey can I recommend Ellyn Harbreeze, Busybody. It seems like it might be good to replace Bennie Bracks. I have always been impressed with how it plays in my deck. At worst it’s an idol of oblivion which is something usually good in a token deck best case you get to search half your deck for the cards you want at that moment and are ready to press for the win. Plus no one knows the card so it has no threat level to the table. It can be a little slow waiting for summoning sickness and only once a turn cycle but I love the card and think it is underrated for token strategy’s

    • @ethanhughes3515
      @ethanhughes3515 11 місяців тому

      Honestly maybe if you try it you should challenge the stats for it in Thalisse decks. It’s seems perfect to activate right after you double your tokens setting up your next turn

  • @ljlk8583
    @ljlk8583 6 місяців тому

    in my edgar deck I had a simiar situation to the vodalian wave knight. I just ended up getting +1/+1 counter dice, and they make everything SOO much easier!! Would definitely recommend

  • @lostinthewoods2201
    @lostinthewoods2201 8 місяців тому

    Those "oops" cary over cards was from my aggressive mill deck. I now run captain N'gathrod. It reanimates stuff from opponents graves at the end of turn, and my cary over cards from the prevoius version was Leyline of the void😂😂😂

  • @neimaddamienjackson9256
    @neimaddamienjackson9256 10 місяців тому +1

    I play Bothersome Quasit in my Abaddon (storm, cascade, copy, spellslinger)

  • @danielgoldberg2129
    @danielgoldberg2129 11 місяців тому +4

    I played Insurrection once in my Karlach, Fury of Avernus, extra combats, deck. It was such a feels-bad moment for the whole table that I cut it. 😮

  • @swanboi174
    @swanboi174 10 місяців тому +1

    Monologue tax is a cheaper version of smothering tithe for players who want treasures but can't afford the $50 card, or who don't want to run the heavily taxing card that makes them the threat.
    I personally have one in isshin, and it doesn't do much early on, but it gains a bit of momentum later.

  • @danielscott9960
    @danielscott9960 10 місяців тому +1

    Love Bothersome Quasit. I run it I'm my dragons approach deck because I can make any flyers just unable to block my dragons

  • @alexanderthegreat3424
    @alexanderthegreat3424 10 місяців тому +1

    Yes. Tokens or Counters, choose your stress.
    Choosing both is just self-defeating on board state management.

    • @JDP5127
      @JDP5127 10 місяців тому +1

      I love both, but I would never mix the two. I have never played Cathars Crusade for that exact reason.

    • @alexanderthegreat3424
      @alexanderthegreat3424 10 місяців тому +1

      @@JDP5127
      Yeah. Never mix both. Choose one.
      My motto is: Simpler but interesting board state equates to fun magic playing experience.
      Right on point on Cathars Crusade!!!
      Such card is the epitome of "with great power comes with great RESPONISIBILITY".

  • @kelvinchadwick913
    @kelvinchadwick913 7 місяців тому

    Lol.... River song from my temur doctor who exile deck. Drawing from the bottom of the library is such a pain if you don't build around it. Great commander bad in the 99

  • @elladan23
    @elladan23 10 місяців тому

    40:08 I feel it, also I decided to add an enchantment that can give haste, now my dance of the mane has became one my victory condition.

  • @erichorton3901
    @erichorton3901 10 місяців тому

    On the Leyline Immersion challenge: I'm also not seeing it in enough of Raggadragga deck. Extra ramp, protection and +2/+2. Having him tap for 5 mana also makes him an appealing target for his own trigger to get himself into Commander Damage 1 shot range.

  • @Barraind.Faylestar
    @Barraind.Faylestar 10 місяців тому

    Alternative argument for dance of the manse: at ×=5 (which might be its best mode anyway) it still gets duplicate board wipes plus multiple reanimators.

  • @damenlenz
    @damenlenz 11 місяців тому +4

    Love you guys!

    • @EDHRECast
      @EDHRECast  11 місяців тому +4

      Love you too, Damen!

  • @Stroggoii
    @Stroggoii 10 місяців тому

    Every vampire in the Edgar precon over 3cmc, except Malakir Bloodwitch and Drana who has her own deck, have been in a shoebox from day one.
    I pondered Sangromancer and Bloodsworn Steward for my less min-maxed Maid of Dishonor deck, but there still were behind like 8 other vampires who didn't make the cut.

  • @marnixw8724
    @marnixw8724 10 місяців тому

    37:00 Sadly, I actually cut Bennie from my Regna & Krav deck. The way the triggers line up means that Bennie doesn't see the tokens created from Regna, and there are not many other ways in the deck to consistently make tokens on other player's turns (yes, ophiomancer is a thing though). I played against an Ephara deck recently and we got absolutely buried in value. I put it in Kykar now, haven't drawn it but curious to see how it will do.

  • @empurress77
    @empurress77 10 місяців тому

    I can understand that Maskwood Nexus would possibly have a "better" card in your specific deck.
    That said. In an environment with a lot of removal it can very much be the clutch card you want.
    The "land drowned" insurance and the board wipe insurance as well as just the extra body against "Wide" decks insurance really should not be undervalued.

  • @DrFrogman
    @DrFrogman 9 місяців тому +1

    Leyline Immersion in kalamax is also so good!

  • @Dr.Barber
    @Dr.Barber 10 місяців тому +1

    The cards that always catch me are ones that have some very strong upsides, but their bonus ends up being a little too niche. Its why I can never find room for Anafenza of the Foremost.

  • @marcoottina654
    @marcoottina654 8 місяців тому

    My picks:
    -) Angel of Vitality: my Angel tribal deck is not focused on lifegain and she pumps herself only; Righteous Valkyrie is better in any way
    -) Eradicator Valkyrie: both a monoblack deck and a Orzhov deck are focused on tokens, sacrifice and reanimate; she only provides lifelink and a small edict. Cut
    -) Kazandu Tuskcaller: my elves-powered big creatures deck cannot siphon so much mana into a so fragile non-elf slow token spawner. 1 copy just dor fun.
    -) Echo Mage: way too much mana for way to few benefits in my Wizard-heavily-based deck, focused on wizard control and milling upon drawing or with some instant/sorcery
    -) Brimstone Mage: similar to Echo Mage. 15 mana for a non-Goblin Lightning Crafter
    -) Magus of the Coffers: in my monoblackde k mentioned above, I have too much non swamp lands and not enough money to buy an urborg, so by the time I can drop a 5-6 mana ramper (?) I no longer need that much mana, since all other pieces are already in play. Nyx lotus works just fine

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 10 місяців тому

    Maskwood nexus is amazing with Umbris. That horror that exiles the top card of an opponent's library every time a horror dies. So with Umbris out, play Maskwood nexus, you play phyrexian altar and you cast a gravecrawler. Now you have won the game, because: the maskwood nexus turns the Gravecrawler into a horror and it turns Umbris into a zombie, so you sac the crawler to the altar, get a black and recast it over and over and over from the grave exiling every card in your opponents' libraries and you simply pass the turn and win.

  • @cameronsmith381
    @cameronsmith381 7 місяців тому

    Leyline immersion in my Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea deck is very fun

  • @benrichardson5662
    @benrichardson5662 5 місяців тому

    I cut Shivan Harvest from my Purphoros deck. I really wanted to hate on nonbasic lands but I never had the time to invest Mana because Purphoros is always public enemy number one and I don't have the turns or Mana to take apart my opponents lands when for the cost of casting the Harvest and using it I can cast Ruination and make people scoop.

  • @BadDrummerCarl
    @BadDrummerCarl 10 місяців тому

    Lidless gaze lets you play lands so even worst case scenario you secure your next two land drops (assuming you play this without land drop first)

  • @user-pw2zi9lh5i
    @user-pw2zi9lh5i 5 місяців тому

    I think crafty cut purse would actually work well in an orvar the all-form deck

  • @empurress77
    @empurress77 10 місяців тому

    Just so you know i'm going to build into a deck, an Alms Collector, Bennie Bracks, Zoologist. Howling Mine, Black Vice, Prosperity, Vedalken Orry, Monologue Tax, Smothering Tide, Maskwood Nexus (With a way to untap it every turn) just to annoy Joey.
    (*In spirit if never in person)

  • @KingKoral
    @KingKoral 3 місяці тому

    Loved the episode! CMDR Central "the other podcast" had episodes about "homework cards" from newer sets and a few weeks later they'd report whether those cards proved to be good or not.
    Do you think you could make a series in a similar vein?

  • @TheStephenation
    @TheStephenation 10 місяців тому

    I had not paid attention to Vesuvan Drifter when it came out. Seeing it here, I seriously might add it to my The Ever-Changing 'Dane deck. The deck is pretty light on EtB triggers and has lots of big creatures with death triggers. Ideally I'd use this card with Volrath's Stronghold, but it has a pretty strong chance of just being a strong inclusion in general. Could be worth the slot.

  • @crawdaddy2004
    @crawdaddy2004 10 місяців тому

    21:58 Maskwood Nexus is the Chromatic Lantern for creature types.

  • @doomofthedestiny8065
    @doomofthedestiny8065 8 місяців тому

    I mean, white isn't great for it, but any kinda hug or hand punishing deck that encourages or forces your opponents to draw (Nekusaur, howling mine, etc) it can be useful, but granted, white is rarely the color for that. particularly as most of the poignant examples are grixis.
    Edit- forgot to mention I was talking about monologue tax... still not the best as there are far more useful spells/enchantments that will trigger more than once
    Edit 2: Benny would be good in Ghired (Prolly mispelled, the populate pre-con commander in Naya)

  • @imanujakku
    @imanujakku 10 місяців тому

    Vesuvan Drifter seems cool in something like Satoru who has all these huge creatures with combat effects like blightsteel, ancient blue dragon especially in conjunction with vamp tutor, scheming symmetry etc.

  • @jimstewart4929
    @jimstewart4929 10 місяців тому

    Leyline Immersion is absolutely nutty in Henzie. You're never attacking with him anyway, and it makes you able to add a 6 drop to your plays every single turn.

  • @SendReinforcements
    @SendReinforcements 11 місяців тому

    I’ve had cunning rhetoric work as designed many times, but my playgroups had lots of “hit you for 4” instead of alpha strikes or instant deaths.

  • @marljevincalabia3746
    @marljevincalabia3746 11 місяців тому +2

    If you play Fevered Suspicion with Prosper, Tome Bound out, you're going to get 7 treasures which kind of makes Fevered Suspicion cost 1 mana. There are times when we play 5 or 6-man pods which makes it even better. It's so fun to resolve.

  • @steveheist6426
    @steveheist6426 10 місяців тому

    I tried Arcbound Crusher exactly once in my Urza, Chief Artificer deck - a 0/0 Artifact Creature with Trample, Modular 1, and Whenever an artifact enters the battlefield, it gets another counter.
    I thought this would be an effective second-of Kappa Cannoneer.... It's not. It dies to a sneeze & a 4-mana 1/1 is just not enough.

  • @Zetman8383
    @Zetman8383 10 місяців тому

    That "Yeah" sound is going to haunt me for a while 34:20

  • @PolGamesOnTwitch
    @PolGamesOnTwitch 8 місяців тому

    Leyline Inmersion + Rona, Herald of Invasion in a Jodah, the Unifier deck ... that's the type of friend I have...

    • @PolGamesOnTwitch
      @PolGamesOnTwitch 8 місяців тому

      I like Cunning Rhetoric in my Queen Marchesa, because people goes crazy for the Monarchy and attack even with a 1/1 for that emblem.

  • @IneptCardCollector
    @IneptCardCollector 3 місяці тому

    You and I remember Aftermath very differently.

  • @someguy1ification
    @someguy1ification 6 місяців тому

    I have some examples of cards that I cut... or at least should have cut... or some I just didn't put in at all, because they just aren't fun to play against.
    In my Grand Warlord Radha deck, attacking is primarily done to generate mana rather than deal combat damage. I was running Aggravated Assault until very recently, and every time I drew it I was like "this card either does nothing (if I have fewer than 5 creatures, it spends more mana than th3 extra attack generates)... or it is a single card that comes out of nowhere to do infinite damage and end the game in a rather unsatisfying way for everyone (if I have 5 or more creatures, it pays for itself as many times as I want it to). There is no middle ground, no use case where it's a fun card. It's either terrible and I'm afraid to put it out at all, practically dead, or busted. So out it went (finally).
    And then I have a Vaevictus Asmadi, the Dire deck that I was considering the card Varragoth, Bloodsky Sire for. Vaevictus has an attack trigger to have each player replace a permanent on their field (that I get to pick for everyone) with the top card of their library if it's a permanent (unlike Chaos Warp, there is no shuffle before hand). and of course, I'm running top of library manipulation (Sylvan Library is actually a synergy card instead of just value!). But Varragoth does that too well, he has vampiric tutor as his boast ability. So it would mean I always have exactly what I want entering off of Vaevictus' trigger... usually starting with Asceticism. Which just isn't fun for anyone.

  • @yes.thatjanedoe
    @yes.thatjanedoe 11 місяців тому +2

    don't worry guys, I'm rooting for you

  • @martianmilfhunter6229
    @martianmilfhunter6229 10 місяців тому

    Leyline Immersion was my consideration for najeela, but the restriction was a downer.
    Could be good in derevi, jodah or sisay.

  • @shondralyon-brown1603
    @shondralyon-brown1603 10 місяців тому +1

    You two are great.

  • @ss5gogetunks
    @ss5gogetunks 11 місяців тому

    Tbf Vodalian wave knight is easier to track because it doesn't trigger every time a creature enters, so making a bunch of creatures doesn't have the same "ok they all enter with x +1/+1 counters where x is the number of creatures you make"

  • @TheMegaMagikarp
    @TheMegaMagikarp 10 місяців тому

    I have only cast alms collector a couple of times but, one time was against a Jace the mind sculptor +0 and it felt glorious

  • @Bstone410
    @Bstone410 11 місяців тому

    Nothing rhymes better than Yeet and.... Skeet 😆💀

  • @Dragynstone1202
    @Dragynstone1202 10 місяців тому

    "how very dare you!" Fellow Bluey watcher spotted!