I think Meshuggah is an playing the guitar version of limbo. "How low can you go?" "B flat." "Like on a 7 string? That's not that impressive." "No. An octave lower than that." "....wat..."
I THINK (could be wrong) that the actual riff is in 11/8 (think of it as 5/4 with an extra 1/8th note every cycle). The china is just playing 1/4 notes, so every cycle it's displaced by an 1/8th note meaning it goes from falling on a down beat to an off beat. Every 6th cycle of the 11/8 riff they cut off the extra 3 1/8th notes so it becomes a bar of 4/4 (ie 11/8 minus 3 8th notes is 8/8 or 4/4) and then the pattern repeats Cycle 1 - 11/8 China plays on beats Cycle 2 - 11/8 China plays off beats Cycle 3 - 11/8 China plays on beats Cycle 4 - 11/8 China plays off beats Cycle 5 - 11/8 China plays on beats Cycle 6 - 4/4 china on off beats. Repeat cycles 1-6 I may very well be wrong and if someone can explain it better, please tell me!
I actually can play Stengah on drums but can't explain it or I will confuse myself. I Just watched a drum cover for like a month and got the song xD (at normal speed and also slower like 0.5 or 0.75 speed).
I love the last verse when everything is accenting the implied 7/16, but the snare stays on the backbeat the whole time. So fucking smart. That's literally all they need in order to keep the quarter note pulse going while you bang your head.
Live music is very often faster than the studio-recorded version thereof. In the same way that you drive faster in a race than you do normally. There is adrenaline, there is excitement, etc. These things cause an individual to push the tempo.
I think Freddie loves this tune judging from the way he throws his head down when the rest of the band comes in at the beginning. This song is all parts genius and all parts brutal.
@@azkar65 Oh I didn't know that, interesting. Of course, ultimately it's about whatever Thomas thinks it is about, literally. But, in the same way as you know it to mean 'a British drink', I know it to mean 'common slang for a cheap needle'. So perhaps a little of both, as you said.
This is just insane. It's so god damn good. These guys used like a Game Genie to find the basis of metal and just ramped it tf up. Nothing but love for these guys god damn.
Seriously what's with all the peeps hating on meshuggah for not using the higher strings?you get an 8 string when you need something lower than the low E.Not something higher.
i was at a Meshuggah concert in Denmark and i needed to get some things off me in the jacket wardrobe thing. then right when i was in the line, Stengah comes on and i was just ahhhhhhhhhhh :D. just wanted to get back to the them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There is a weird thing though - the verse is not on the 1 if you listen to Thomas' cymbal. This was one of the first songs that got me hooked and the more I listen the more I realize that it's a tricky-ass song. But I love how the 4/4 is not obvious when you first check them out for the first time. Love this tune.
Unfortunately yes it does, they make small changes in tempo throughout all the songs on Chaosphere. For instance, that riff @ 2:44 in Sane. It's played slightly faster when the drums join in. On every album (except re-releases and I) from Nothing and onward the tempo is fixed for each song though.
I know you wrote that like half a year ago, but I just wanted to clarify - Sane is entirely in 4/4 apart from one abrupt transition (0:37), just like the rest of the songs of that album.
Both times they've played at Soundwave, Brisbane - Australia, shit has been crazy. But every Meshuggah video of other tours and shows that I've seen on UA-cam has been dismal.
Sorry, but no. The "sane... me..." part you're talking about at 1:40 could be counted as either 4/4 or 7/8 I guess, but considering that the rest of the song is in 4/4, I think that part is meant to be as well. The riff at 2:44 is also in 4/4, it becomes apparent when the drums join in. You can set a metronome there (2:52-3:08) to 4/4 @ 137 BPM and it lines up perfectly until 3:08 where the BPM changes. As in most mesh songs, it DOES line up, just not always where you expect it to.
***** this song lyrics are obvious to anyone whos been heroin addict, yes its a bit poetic but every single line of this song is about heroin addiction
they never made a big deal out of taking especially psychedelic drugs like lsd, lsa, mushrooms, mescalin and of course dmt... rational gaze, closed eys visuals, pineal gland optics, ayahuasca experience... you can see the dmt/ayahuasca 'style' on the nothing/catch33/koloss album covers a lot! and the way haake writes the lyrics since 'nothing' is a perfect exemple of a psychedelic-minded human being gettin in resonance to itself...
@MYM0NK3YD13D Okay, you're obviously just trying to start a little internet fight. Umm, I never said anything about them not being "metal enough". I am a musician as well, so I really don't care about looks. Don't assume stupid things. I just said I wanted to see them do it. It's a LIVE video. So yes, I want to SEE something too. If I wanted to listen to music, I would have played the CD. Have a good one.
@Som1onu2be what, are you assuming they're not capable of that or what? and who the hell cares about headbanging when it comes to meshuggah? just enjoy it, or isn't that "metal enough" for you?
It's awesome, but math metal makes my head hurt just like math does. I usually go grab a beer when bands play such brainy music. I like my guitar with 6 strings, my bass with 4 strings and my songs with a handful of yummy repetitive riffs changing every 4 measures, with a nice groove I can sink my teeth into. My exception would be Opeth. They have enough melody to keep me interested, although I still go grab a beer when they start playing. Not hating, just saying. Who moshes to math? \m/
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Funny how in the intro Fredrick, Jens, and Martin/Dick are all headbanging to 3 different rhythms yet somehow they're all correct
lol
Am I the only one who finds this song extremely brutal but relaxing at the same time? 😂
The dissonance plus complex polyrythm combination is almost soporific
Me too!!
Sergio Soriano .....*Same here, bro*
You just summerized Messuggah
Hella relaxing fam lol
I think Meshuggah is an playing the guitar version of limbo.
"How low can you go?"
"B flat."
"Like on a 7 string? That's not that impressive."
"No. An octave lower than that."
"....wat..."
The china is 4/4, but his foot follows some quantum mechanics law.
He plays the same rhythm as the guitars with his feet.
Bob Jones
That is alien knowledge, my friend.
John Doe B-b-but I swear you can hear it if you listen!
I THINK (could be wrong) that the actual riff is in 11/8 (think of it as 5/4 with an extra 1/8th note every cycle). The china is just playing 1/4 notes, so every cycle it's displaced by an 1/8th note meaning it goes from falling on a down beat to an off beat.
Every 6th cycle of the 11/8 riff they cut off the extra 3 1/8th notes so it becomes a bar of 4/4 (ie 11/8 minus 3 8th notes is 8/8 or 4/4) and then the pattern repeats
Cycle 1 - 11/8 China plays on beats
Cycle 2 - 11/8 China plays off beats
Cycle 3 - 11/8 China plays on beats
Cycle 4 - 11/8 China plays off beats
Cycle 5 - 11/8 China plays on beats
Cycle 6 - 4/4 china on off beats.
Repeat cycles 1-6
I may very well be wrong and if someone can explain it better, please tell me!
I actually can play Stengah on drums but can't explain it or I will confuse myself. I Just watched a drum cover for like a month and got the song xD (at normal speed and also slower like 0.5 or 0.75 speed).
that tone is insane
i love that bass tone it's fucking gnarly
Yeah this is a thing that a lot of band forget
Djent staple
Watching Meshuggah perform live is like watching some sort of ritual ensue as the music takes a hold of you.
I just forget everything and just praise the brilliant performance that consumes you.
I was at that show... Was a life changing show.....
The world better not end today, i havent even seen Meshuggah live.
2020 was like hold my beer
@@IIESPD00DII 2022 is laughing out loud.
2023 checking in, we’re losing sight of reality as we knew it.
Seen them yet?
synced headbanging is the coolest thing in the universe
absolutely, dude
I love the last verse when everything is accenting the implied 7/16, but the snare stays on the backbeat the whole time. So fucking smart. That's literally all they need in order to keep the quarter note pulse going while you bang your head.
something about synchronized headbanging that's so satisfying hahaha
Most of the people look confused. "How do I actually headbang to this?"
1.-meshuggah face
2.- convulsionate randomly
That it's why sometimes even the members of the band doesn't do headbang
Follow the cymbal.
It feels faster than the album version
It is
Live music is very often faster than the studio-recorded version thereof.
In the same way that you drive faster in a race than you do normally. There is adrenaline, there is excitement, etc. These things cause an individual to push the tempo.
The intro with headbanging (read backbanging) is so powerful!!!
I think Freddie loves this tune judging from the way he throws his head down when the rest of the band comes in at the beginning. This song is all parts genius and all parts brutal.
When I listen to Meshuggah, I definitely feel like I've been beaten to the unforgiving ground.
fred's first headbang pumps me up SO MUCH!!
best bass tone
If you know the lyrics, this song may have saved some lives. It's got me holding on for mine.
The lyrics I do not know, but I assume they are about drugs of some sort, given the name.
I hope that you are OK.
@@LeatherCladVegan maybe it's about drug and alcohol addiction. Also, if i'm not mistaken stengah used to be a British drink
@@azkar65 Oh I didn't know that, interesting. Of course, ultimately it's about whatever Thomas thinks it is about, literally.
But, in the same way as you know it to mean 'a British drink', I know it to mean 'common slang for a cheap needle'. So perhaps a little of both, as you said.
The bass tones 😩😩😩 so good
I don't know a band more talented than meshuggah. Keep those mind bending riffs coming!
try gorguts or ulcerate..
This is just insane. It's so god damn good.
These guys used like a Game Genie to find the basis of metal and just ramped it tf up. Nothing but love for these guys god damn.
Trying to headbang to this is like trying to solve a calculus equation
I love how the singer (I forget his name) almost makes his body look like it's being impacted by the drums.
I can't describe this bass tone... fucking masterpiece song!
You have to be partially insane to be able to play in these time signatures.
4/4?
That Dead Kennedys shirt tho
This song made me tear up. Soooo goooood!
I love the snare sound!!!
In this video Fredrik, Marten, and Dick look like they're clones of each other. They even have the same posture/stance at almost every point. Wtf
and synchronized headbanging
Polyrhythmic headbanging :D
Meshuggah forever!
Seriously what's with all the peeps hating on meshuggah for not using the higher strings?you get an 8 string when you need something lower than the low E.Not something higher.
real vikings lol
Merci !
That Meshuggah face doe!!!😂😂
Wow. How do you play those drums? I can barely text and drive
Buenisimo!!!! \m/
This is so fun on drums!
i was at a Meshuggah concert in Denmark and i needed to get some things off me in the jacket wardrobe thing. then right when i was in the line, Stengah comes on and i was just ahhhhhhhhhhh :D. just wanted to get back to the them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tight 🤟
BRUTAL😎
Less is more. More is more. Long live mesgguah
There is a weird thing though - the verse is not on the 1 if you listen to Thomas' cymbal. This was one of the first songs that got me hooked and the more I listen the more I realize that it's a tricky-ass song. But I love how the 4/4 is not obvious when you first check them out for the first time. Love this tune.
3:39 my favorite part FUUUCKKK lml
STENGAH.
You're absolutely right actually, counting those parts in 4/4 gives an odd number of measures. I stand corrected :)
Came to vibe to this video and almost gave it a like but it is currently at 666, so I watched the video and left. 10/10 would djent and leave again.
OMFG come to the US! I must FUCKING EXPERIENCE THIS!!!!
Unfortunately yes it does, they make small changes in tempo throughout all the songs on Chaosphere. For instance, that riff @ 2:44 in Sane. It's played slightly faster when the drums join in. On every album (except re-releases and I) from Nothing and onward the tempo is fixed for each song though.
I think Meshuggah doesn't play music. I think they play morse code...
Fucking BADASS!!!
4/4 or not, this shit is complex
+TheMeatballMen The fact that it is 4/4 makes it even more complex than it would be otherwise I feel. It fuckin hurts to try and figure it out,
MKRocker94 Agreed
@Som1onu2be I saw them a couple of days ago, they did it several times
@ZhasX3 thanks for that! damn typos
@gibbsies
Thanks! That's really interesting and complicated at the same time haha. I think I'm musically challenged.
I know you wrote that like half a year ago, but I just wanted to clarify - Sane is entirely in 4/4 apart from one abrupt transition (0:37), just like the rest of the songs of that album.
I reckon they enjoy head banging... FUCK IT, THEY LOVE IT!!!
Dat bass.
Are they playing with ship ropes? O.o
@Som1onu2be you did during the first riff lol
4:07 John Dolmayan is that you?
instant eargsam
Both times they've played at Soundwave, Brisbane - Australia, shit has been crazy. But every Meshuggah video of other tours and shows that I've seen on UA-cam has been dismal.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA I FELL OFF MY FUCKING CHAIR YOU FUNNY FUNY HUMAN!
4:09
Meshuggah = Meshuggah actually
Sorry, but no. The "sane... me..." part you're talking about at 1:40 could be counted as either 4/4 or 7/8 I guess, but considering that the rest of the song is in 4/4, I think that part is meant to be as well. The riff at 2:44 is also in 4/4, it becomes apparent when the drums join in. You can set a metronome there (2:52-3:08) to 4/4 @ 137 BPM and it lines up perfectly until 3:08 where the BPM changes. As in most mesh songs, it DOES line up, just not always where you expect it to.
4:10
@MYM0NK3YD13D Haha well I want to see it in person.
Best shopping mall performance ever. Better than Tiffany!
I wonder how many people know this song is about heroin?
Well the bit about needles and syringes kinda puts it out there.
ZeppelinRules every lyric in this song is about what a heroin user experiences
no wonder this song is so awesome.
***** this song lyrics are obvious to anyone whos been heroin addict, yes its a bit poetic but every single line of this song is about heroin addiction
they never made a big deal out of taking especially psychedelic drugs like lsd, lsa, mushrooms, mescalin and of course dmt... rational gaze, closed eys visuals, pineal gland optics, ayahuasca experience... you can see the dmt/ayahuasca 'style' on the nothing/catch33/koloss album covers a lot! and the way haake writes the lyrics since 'nothing' is a perfect exemple of a psychedelic-minded human being gettin in resonance to itself...
@Som1onu2be nope, just thought it was an annoying comment. you have a good one
0:54 Kidman spit in the rhythm
Apparently all their stuff is in 4/4 time. Can someone clarify?
This tunning makes me think im on standar tuning and im in drop G# lol
No one every talk about how dirty the bass tone is an all Meshuggah live videos.
How can they play that shit and headbang in 4/4?? Mind = shattered
so much power
@rololoo LOLOLOL
My god, the crowds at meshuggah concerts disappoint the shit out of me.
u think Tool had that song in mind creating the Pot ?
You misspelled it, it's Stengah*****
i dont get it
@lefthandstan
keep trying - I didn't at first
like if you got goosebumps
it's so good!!!! metrónomo
Is Just me or they've speeded up the song?
It’s definitely a little more sped up. Makes it sound even more brutal lol.
Really? The intro doesn't seem it lol
Wait, are you talking about stengah or sane? I know stengah is all 4/4, but Sane isn't.
Sane definitely feels like 7/4, but it actually is still 4/4. They just use 7 as the polymeter that is happening
This solo so much different from studio record.
Chris Swift Fredrik improvs all of his solos live
@MYM0NK3YD13D Okay, you're obviously just trying to start a little internet fight. Umm, I never said anything about them not being "metal enough". I am a musician as well, so I really don't care about looks. Don't assume stupid things. I just said I wanted to see them do it. It's a LIVE video. So yes, I want to SEE something too. If I wanted to listen to music, I would have played the CD. Have a good one.
Almost TOO heavy... but nah
@Som1onu2be what, are you assuming they're not capable of that or what? and who the hell cares about headbanging when it comes to meshuggah? just enjoy it, or isn't that "metal enough" for you?
...they´re not meshuggah,they lie...they are TIME TRAVELERS... ;) ...
Drummer plays 2 songs at the same time ...
It's awesome, but math metal makes my head hurt just like math does. I usually go grab a beer when bands play such brainy music. I like my guitar with 6 strings, my bass with 4 strings and my songs with a handful of yummy repetitive riffs changing every 4 measures, with a nice groove I can sink my teeth into. My exception would be Opeth. They have enough melody to keep me interested, although I still go grab a beer when they start playing. Not hating, just saying. Who moshes to math? \m/
This is an extremely brutal song but a lame crowd
video editing was suck