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Logitech G303 Shroud Edition | Early Impressions are INSANE
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- The G303 wireless is shaping up to be the best mouse for me.
I've never felt so good so quickly. Can't wait to see how it feels over time.
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0:00 - Intro
1:07 - Grip Style / Shape Overview
9:06 - General Features
Just received mine and HOLY SMOKES!!! Coming from the G203 which is not a slouch itself, this G303 shape is almost like the G203 but in supersaiyan form
Wait what??? I might actually main the g303 SE since i also am coming from a g203 BTW what grip style do you use? I use palm claw
@@ADRIAN-zw5td same grip for me. And also i was a G203 mouse since day
Super solid review. Again lots detail about shape, well done.
Also been using this mouse 2 days and its so freaking good. You get so nice grip with it. Every other mouse feels like no grip at all after using this. 18 x 10.5 hand here and i grip it allmost same way as you but pinkie more vertical tho.
I feel the same. I've put hundreds of hours on the s2 shape across the og and S2-C, but after just a few days of G303 it feels so weird. This might ruin other claw shapes because they can't compare to how locked in it feels.
Seems like this grip is exactly the one I was using with EC2-A and never found any similar feeling. So waiting for this one to arrive :) Got dem 18x10.5 handies
@@jusuiNen Hope you love it!
i love the way you talk.
fast and on point!
not a slow "hey guys" boring review like all others.
thank you
i apreciate you!
God damn it I told myself I wasn't going to buy this mouse but this video just felt like you were listing off all my favorite aspects of different mouse shapes. I fell in love with angled sides from the xm1 and have been looking for a different shape with super angled sides ever since
I absolutely love how explain grips. I have never seen someone talk about the very specifics of grip and shape that I always wonder about until now and you explain them very well. Dropped a sub
wow. the level of detail you went into and your grip style are literally identical to mine. thank you so much for this. been tracking this mouse since the initial leak of the prototype that guy found in a surplus store and knew it would be a game changer, too bad i'm from south africa and have to wait another couple of months before we get it. keep up the great work!
completely out of topic but how's the current situation in South Africa after that Zuma public freakout? Are you in safe?
@@zahitemremetin606 hey man, wow thanks for asking! we doing alright, lasted about 1 week. a few of the shops in the safer areas remained open after day 2 of the riots, so people queued for HOURS just to get essentials like food but things are all "back to normal" i guess. still loads of damage to shopping malls and insurance companies are paying out millions to 1000s of people, but this is south Africa, we overcome, we move forward... i am definitely considering making plans to move overseas, but everywhere has its shit, so where do you actually go at the end of the day😅
@@ColderAim I'm glad it ended. So what happened to Zuma then? Is he in jail? Is ANC still in charge? Do you think these kinds of corrupt people could be stopped from now on?
Keep doing your reviews man, this has to be the most helpful mouse review I've ever heard with so much detail on the shape.
bro your review is so thorough on your ability and effective hand placement. Love the review, everyone just speaks of the palm placement and starts dogging it, then say they like it lol
Well this review gave me some hope for the new g303 been using original g303 for past 6 years straight but lots of people were saying they didn’t like the new g303 but a lot of the points you touched on are exactly why I love the g303 so much so I think I will have to end up buying this eventually and trying it out now.
Crzy... I have much smaller hands than everyone else buying this mouse. It's by far my absolute favorite mouse. I wish I had this thing back when it launched. I was a bit skeptical at first but I landed a good deal for $35 on ebay. Bought some 3rd party skates and it was a brand new mouse again. even with the smaller hands, for some reason it hits right at home. Maybe my style was always claw and never paid attention until this. Coming from the g502 for about 4 years.
Best review I've watched. So much detail and really good editing. how have u not blown up yet lol
Really happy that we have almost the exact same size hands. Will be looking forward to the follow up.
Well done, this is the most thorough g303 se grip explanation I've come across. Thanks!!
Why is this the best review I have ever consumed....? Bravo!
Got mine yesterday and 100% agree. The shape was awkward at first but after a few hours of play time and a nights rest, it feels fantastic
Finally, a mouse review that actually includes useful grip analysis instead of just useless ego stroking twitch highlights. 👍
I just got the G303 SE. Haven't had a chance to take it for a spin but out of the box grip is promising. I was pretty much settled on maining the Aerox 3 Wireless Ghost that I just got not too long ago but that may change.
Previous mains:
- GPX: I hate the potato shape buy I aim well with it.
- G305: I hated the shape initially but I grew to love the inward sloping sides. The G303 has the sloping sides while filling out my hand better.
Great first impressions, Krafty. You peaked my interest in picking one up. That ending too :D
I really like how in depth you go about the grip and how much thought went into it. One thing I feel like I need to point out; you speak very fast and your words seem to mush all together making it hard to understand you sometimes. When I slow the video to 0.75 it's a lot easier to follow what you're saying without having to focus haha. Great video nonetheless.
Ty. I already talk fast and I was super excited to make this video so it got even worse haha
@@KraftyCraftKraf Even though I'm not a native speaker I can understand everything you said but I can see that this could easily turn off some people. Also lack of subtitles makes it worse.
Didn’t want to wait I just ordered mine. They are mostly sold out in the US except on the Logitech site incase anyone is looking
Some years back i bought a 303 apex, but with larger hands and slender fingers it was really tough on getting used to it. Glad to hear they increased the volumes in this redesign and it will surely suit a wider range of people. The apex was such a conflicting and interesting experience though.. the thing is, it is really good for aim. But perhaps due to hand size, maybe because of the very aggressive taper and slanted sides, my claw would either be so clawed up that my fingers end up exerting too much pressure to lift the mouse off the pad, or with a relaxed claw my ring and thumb fingers would end up pinching too far front where the base was getting just a bit too narrow.
Nevertheless i stuck with it for a couple months and managed to perform quite near my relative top, just with a caveat of discomfort due to being a bit too frequently conscious about the shape in my hand. For the adaptation process it was interesting for me to find out that the way my hand dealt with the lack of control and inability to press the mouse into the pad well enough ( which is something i like to do a bit to lock my mouse in some situations) was to roll significantly to the right, shift pad contact more to my outer palm behind my pinkie, and adopt this hybrid tense/relaxed claw in which my ring finger would be completely extended out, hugging the right ridge of the mouse for a substantially bigger contact point while my other fingers whould keep a pronounced claw, with my thumb just pressing the mouse into my ring finger.
For the long run though i really prefer being comfortable in all types of movement and barely feel like im holding a mouse. Typically, it is the case when on the desktop i am able to lightly flick in every direction equally well, flick horizontally with very little vertical change, and circle around my cursor or draw nice 8s on the screen with fluid and quick movements, without too many spikey, broken turns. If i am able to do these well for me it would mean that i have good general control with a shape, in contrast, on some mice i might find that horizontal is good, but when it comes to vertical resolution it might be significantly more inconsistent/uncomfy, and that's what i felt like a bit with the old 303 too. Micro adjustments or spray control it was super good, but when i had to flick or turn more vertically it would be much harder to get consistent and i would always have to readjust.
In conclusion, shape is still king as they say, and don't forget, i guess even if you can, it's really not worth forcing your wrists to adapt to a wrong size, crazy grips or something that is just not your style, potentially risking long term injury just because of weight or because some pros use certain mice. Remember, carpal tunnel is gonna affect your aim (and much more) much worse than having to move around 10 grams more or having a larger shape that you may fear will affect your ability to 180 flick hs someone in a 1 in a 100 clutch!
Awesome review brother , Just ordered mine today and looking forward to trying your grip which is very similar to mine on a starlight 12
Bro I've been trying to get used to the shape after using the s2 for like 2 years and once I tried doing some of the things grip style wise you talked about in the video I am blown away at how good it feels now. Literally insane control for me now, the main things was sort of folding my hand inward while holding it and for some reason that made the whole feeling change. We seem to have pretty similar grip styles which is cool, glad it works for you! Hopefully we found ourselves a main haha.....I've spent too much money trying other mice lol
Thanks for the very detailed shape analysis! Very helpful!
I wish I would have seen this video earlier. I just got the mouse a week ago and holy shit the shape is awesome, and I'm experiencing all the same stuff that you describe (similar hand size). I love how detailed you were with how you grip the mouse and how it feels. Would have helped me a lot in picking up this sooner lol!
My hands are 18x9 cm and i have a claw grip and this mouse feels almost perfect for me, i like it more than my GPW. It's honestly meant for claw and anything that isn't claw ppl won't like it. It's not a safe shape it's a shape that happens to fit mine. You'll either love it or hate it, same thing as the og g303
Good to hear, I am also 18x9 and waiting on mouse to arrive
Got the mouse on Sunday. I'm also really surprised by how good it is like you Krafty. At first I found it very clunky and awkward but after a couple days I found a grip that's currently working for me. I grip the mouse by putting my thumb and pinky near the biggest width point on the mouse and solely rely on my thumb and pinky for mouse control while keeping my thumb and pinky always touching the mousepad. I let my ringer finger just hang on the side and don't really use it which was something I had to get used to. It's a completely different mouse grip than any other especially coming from the XM1R.
But overall the aiming experience is very similar to my favorite mouse the XM1R. Micro flicks are very easy as the width of the mouse causes my hand to stay wide and helps me make tight movements with my wrist where I can stop and go instantly. Micro adjustments are good too but not as good as my XM1R but honestly I'm getting used to the G303 very quickly so I feel it has the potential to have as good micro adjustments as XM1R or better for me. I feel that with how I grip the G303, I rely more on my wrist for micro-adjustments whereas I rely more on fingers for micro adjustments on my XM1R. For reference, I actually feel a lot of maneuverability on the XM1R as I used to fingertip grip and would solely rely on my wrist or fingers for micro adjustments on the XM1R.
Comfort wise, at first it was a bit uncomfortable, but I'm actually starting to feel quite comfortable on it. The first hour or so of playing with it I might feel a little tension in my hand, but as I play more my hand just melts into the mouse to where I barely notice it anymore and just focus on the game. For me I actually found the XM1R very comfortable after getting used to it by playing with it for a couple months and I know with certainty the G303 will also become even more comfortable and possibly be even more comfy than the XM1R, if not solely for being wireless. I also think if this mouse was 65g or lighter it will dramatically increase the comfort because of its shape. Shroud says if it sells well they will make a G303 Superlight, but they could have just made this superlight. I know Logitech wants to make more money this way so...
In conclusion, the G303 is a keeper for me and I am seriously considering maining it. The aiming experience is very similar to my XM1R, could potentially be better as I already hit new high scores on Kovaaks with the G303, the comfort is also really good with potential to be more comfy than my XM1R. If anything, I may just main the G303 solely because it's wireless. Going to give it a couple more weeks and decided on that, but I am definitely keeping it part of my rotation as a minimum. So for me XM1R >= G303 (G303 could be top in a couple weeks)> UL2 (best aim, but uncomfy), NP01S > S2C
That sounds like a very weird grip, goes to show how unique and non-universal the shape is. I do also wish it was a superlight option. I don't mind the weight because I'm so used to zowie mice, but lighter is always better imo. If it continues to be as good for me moving forward, a g303 x superlight might be the only thing that could ever beat it.
you are the best mouse reviewer, hands down
ive never seen anyone else on youtube explain the shape of the mouse as good as you do
we also got the exact same handsizes, hoping to get a g303 soon
Great video and great information!
Yet another solid review! Thanks for putting out these very helpful content! I'm curious to see how your opinion about the G303 evolves over time. I'm curious, what FPS games do you play?
I've been playing apex and valorant the most lately. Sometimes some battlefield or OW as well, and halo has been pretty fun so far. There's nothing I'm motivated to grind right now so I'm mainly bouncing around.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Have you ever played Rainbow Six Siege?
Yeah I’ve put a good amount of time in that game. It’s pretty fun and I really like the gunplay, but it’s so slow and the downtime between rounds kills me so I don’t play it anymore. Might get back into it sometime though cause when that games good, it’s so good.
This is what happens when you get input from a gamer on how to built a mouse. This mouse is designed 100% according to shroud's preference and it shows. Great review by the way!
The mouse has been around for 6 years
@@CroPro8901 I think you missed the part where shroud had this redesigned slightly this year according to his needs.
No one used the original version of this but because of the new slight adjustments in weight and shape, sales are booming and everyone is appreciating the quality of it.
Its SHROUD edition for a reason.
@@deej3827 Key word slightly, as you said. No one used the original version cause it didnt get traction and popularity, had a weird shape and so on. The original g303 was just as good, if you think shrouds version is so much better youre just delusional. The sales are booming cause of advertising and shrouds face on it. And yes it is a high quality mouse, just as much the original g303 was
This shape is surprisingly perfect for me. The only gripe I have is that the side buttons are a little too far forward for my small ass hands lol. Love this shape so much. (17 by 8 hands btw)
Yes. Mouse placement is poor on this mouse. Deal breaker for me.
This diamond shape is the best mouse ever for a claw gripper like myself.
I use a relaxed claw grip and my hand size is 19.4cm X 9.3cm. I honestly love the g303 shroud edition. It grips so well and the weight of the mouse is well balanced.
I had the same restrictive feeling issue with the XM1R, hopefully the g303 will be the answer to that
really nice video, always love the deep description of the grip and how does it feel in the hand. I also use the s2 and the xm1, but I always prefered the s2 cuz I have better micro movement. I have 19x9,5 and pretty much the same grip as you. It is really interesting that you get more of that micro movement with the "larger" g303. Always thought that smaller mouse would help with that.
I thought so too. Its because of the weirdly shaped hump and aggressively curved sides. It keeps he back end from being restrictive despite its size and you can get such solid grip on the sides to get finer control. The G303 feels just as nimble and precise as a small mouse, the exact opposite of what I thought it'd be.
Great shape review as always! Got this mouse also end of last week. Freaking love it. I play more of a relaxed claw on it with a more flat thumb. For the first days it seems like its the perfect mix between stability, precision and maneuverability. I ask myself frequently if it would be bette if it would be lighter, or if it is the perfect weight. Due to the more relaxed claw i feel a bit of pressure on my pinky side palm muscle, because the tension is more at the bottom of the muscle and not so much in between the two big muscels. But it seems to get better over the days for me. Maybe i found my new favourite mouse. I hope you as well!
Bro how haven’t you blown up yet
Ty!
It'll just take some time. My content is pretty niche (I'm still surprised people enjoy listening to me nerd out so hard about how plastic is curved and the friction properties of cloth rectangles), so it'll take a while to grow an audience with the appetite for it.
What do you think would be better, this or the orochi v2. I have ~20 by 10 size hands and i fingertip. Any help would be appreciated, thanks
Orochi v2 should be much better for fingertip. It’s much smaller, especially in the back, so you should have the full range of motion and lack of hand contact that you want with ftip. The g303’s hump will probably be too bulky to get a pure ftip and you’ll likely end up with some claw hybrid grip due to some hard to avoid hand contact.
3 yrs on m&k and coming from a gpro wireless when I first grabbed this thing I was worried. After only only few games I knew this was my mouse. I use the forward side mouse button for slide/crouch and this mouse makes this much easier to do with the placement of my thumb
I got this mouse a few days ago and find it extremely uncomfortable, however in gaming after a warm up it feels completely natural with minimal fatigue, weird. I’ll keep it for a few more weeks before I decide if I return it or not.
I also have the G303 coming from the GPX and your review is like 100% my exact feelings. But I still found myself want to go back to the GPX because it feels so much lighter which creates a more satisfying glide imo and I don't love the G303 in any menu or browser scrolling. I can't decide which one to use now though. Might just keep them both.
a month later, are you still using them both?
You’re using the Logitech G303 shroud edition still right?
I've heard of the talking heads but this talking hand is great!
Feel the same exact way, been using it for 5 days now and I didn't think I would actually like it as much as I do. Probably gonna replace my GPX ngl. Great vids as always man, hugs and kisses cutie
stay huge bb
Damn!!! After using smaller mice the gpx feels like a potato in hand. I use a pincer claw on the mz1 with 20x10.5 hands. I’m gonna have to see if I can find a display in store. Nice review
The shape is so good that I can get my normal grip, look like shroud's grip, on this mouse immediately and be able to play like normal in an hour. My main was ultralight 2 and still be able to adapt to the 75 grams of g303 wireless.
I tried this mouse as well but due to my hands just being 17-17.5cm long and 8 wide it was just too wide. Really liked the grip I got with it and could feel that I suprisingly really liked the shape, so I'm gonna have to find the older G303 to try out ^^
Keep us updated
I mained the g303 for 5 years but eventually had to switch cause the smaller shape fked up my ring and pinky. pretty much got into mice after since nothing ever felt like it fit. this new wider/taller g303 may actually be perfect shape-wise but the weight has me questioning whether to pick one up. I think this video sold me on it though haha
also, I have a similar experience with the mz1 where my aim just clicked with it in like an hour of use. I had to deal with some pretty bad days where my hand would strain though which lasted for a month before finding a really good grip on it (and some grip tape for assistance).
edit: i bought the mouse lol
let us know how it goes. I also ordered it lol
same lol
I bought it too, mine weighs 73.6 grams so a little lower than their 75 they said. I wish it was 60-65 it would be perfect
@@Kpaxlol first day with it but kinda disappointing. I guess I'm over the g303 shape now that I've tried so many other great ones over the past few years. doesn't help that this mouse is so much wider feeling since I like thinner, light mice now like the mz1 and hati-s. besides shape, quality and features are top notch as expected of logitech.
edit: that was a knee jerk reaction to not being used to the weight and shape. it's my main now lol
How are the clicks compared to the outset ax and ec3 in terms of spamming (tapping in fps games or MOBA games for example)? Could you rank them?
The clicks are okay for spamming. Their lack of travel and somewhat hard force that that is required to actuate them makes it a little awkward to repeatedly spam them, but they are so crisp that I have no issues with them feeling responsive in these situations. The Outset AX has fantastic clicks for spamming. They’re super light and the tight tensioned travel gives them a bouncy feel that makes it super comfortable and easy to spam. Ec3 is decent but they don’t snap back to neutral as quickly as the outset so they’ll feel a little slower but still totally doable.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Alright thanks a lot! Any differences compared to GPX? Do you prefer GPX or G303 for clicks in general?
The main difference is that the gpx clicks are a little lighter and have more travel to them. The tactile response is super similar due to them using the same switch so they aren’t too different. I prefer the gpx because I like these softer feeling clicks, but the g303 still feels great. I’ll have to see if there’s a break in period before I can be totally sure though.
Playback speed came in handy today. Need to slow down a bit :)
yeah sorry haha. A few other people have said the same. Got excited to talk about this mouse and went a little too fast.
I love the shape but I am so used to higher lift off distance. I dont know if I am able to switch.
If Boardzy is Yin, you are Yang.
lol
Honored to be considered the goats counterpart
do you think this will fit my 21x10 hand? thanks for the superb review!
It could work out well at that hand size. At your length, you will have to curl your fingers back quite far to get the hump deep in your hand like I do. Otherwise, you will end up with a claw/ftip hybrid, but I think that grip would work very well too. The hump can allow for the high range of motion you want in ftip, but still is still tall enough to be there for you when you want that extra support. Check out Fresh Reviews video on the g303 if you haven't already. He has a similar hand size as you and uses that claw/ftip grip I am talking about.
lol your hand looks exactly like mine, and you are tilt gripping too - what a coincidence! anyway, great review!
any chance you can compare it to orochi v2 in terms of shape and how you are gripping it?
Yeah I'll be comparing it to the Orochi when I do the full review. It's the only mouse I've ever used that even feels close to the g303. My grip is nearly identical and I get similar vibes from the back hump. The big differences in overall size and side curvature make the mice pretty different, but they are still very surprisingly similar in their grip feel for how I claw.
How big is your hand?
18 * 9-9.5 cm
Do you see yourself maining this mouse over the S2-C if you don't notice any long term discomfort? I ask this because we have very similar hand dimensions so your point of view on mice are applicable to my own. (Currently maining S2-C with 18.5x9 hands)
Yeah I do. Its feeling really good so far and it potentially injuring me is the only real issue that I foresee, but only time will tell.
had it a while, my favourite from what ive tried, (xm1r too low and narrow ,viper mini poor build quality and far too small for me, sabre pro awful side buttons for binding more palm style, g403 -most comfort but heavy used for long time) g303 for the long term now no complaints yet but it did spin out for no reason twice not since (prob a pube in lens)
The skates on mine are not flat at all though and I'm seriously about to lap them down like a cpu heatsink
Just as I ordered a starlight phantom this comes out and now I struggle to as if I wanna buy one or not
Are those aftermarket feet on the G303?
No its fully stock. No one has special made aftermarket options for the G303 SE yet.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Your really good with your reviews. I through i would hate the shroud mouse as well but it is literally the only wireless mouse with a hump in the rear... which is what i like
when you do quick adjustments ,will you feel the front of the g303 reverberating?
It definitely happens and I do notice it sometimes, but I usually have a very light touch when I reset so it’s not an issue for me. It’s a definite issue that I could see annoying heavy handed people.
Any chance you could review the G Pro Hero 25K/G305/G203???
Nah, probably not. I got the g305 on release and put a lot of time on it, but I've moved on and don't like the shape much anymore. Not much of a fan of the mouse and the only way I'd see myself seriously revisiting the shape is if the lineup got updated.
Hearing you I'd say the MM720 would be a good fit.
Maybe try a review?
The MM720 looks pretty interesting. I'm waiting for the matte version to go on sale. The glossy was dirt cheap a while ago, but I'm not a fan of those coatings so I never picked one up.
I like how you get straight to the point, but i feel your video would benefit if you slowed down your talking a bit so it sounded more natural and less scripted. Great vid tho
I think this layout is better. It makes It easier for the viewer imo
do you also think that the lift off distance of the Logitech G 303 higher is than that of the Logitech G Pro Superlight ? That actually bothers me..
No it feels a little bit lower than the gpx
@@KraftyCraftKraf no way man :D really..
Yea it’s pretty low and you should be fine
Does your copy have any creaking at all? When holding the sides of mine, it creaks pretty often
Nah, mine is totally solid. I would recommend an RMA because that sounds like a qc issue.
cant wait to get this mouse wired for better price
do you think that people with bigger hands (20x11) can find a good grip on this mouse? (claw)
Yeah it should work out well for you. The shape was edited to work better for larger hands. You will have to curl your fingers back further to get the hump deep into your hand like I do, so be aware of that. I'm not as sure about the extra width your hand has on mine, though. You'll probably interact a little differently with the hump and end up wrapping your hand around it a little bit more than I do due to your larger palm size. 11cm is starting to get pretty wide, so I'm not sure about how comfortable it will be for you, but this shape works in mysterious ways and I don't fully understand it yet, so could still be a great claw grip option for all hand sizes.
what do you like more between odin eclipse and gamesense radar?
I like the Eclipse more. The Radar is still super solid but the Eclipse feels more special. It's pretty unique due to it being a slow feeling control pad but it ditches all the muddiness that's typical of other pads with as much friction as it. It's on sale right now for $15, too, which is actually an unreasonably good value for my favorite slow pad.
what you recommand for me : the g303 or g pro superlight , hand size : 19X9 / claw grip
If you grip similarly to I do and like an aggressive feel then the g303 could work out pretty well. Otherwise the gpx is super safe and a very easy recommendation to make. It’s far more universal than the g303 and almost no matter what you’ll be able to find a grip that’s at least usable.
I think you'll like the G303 quicker than the superlight because it's easier to find a good grip with the ergo design. It literally took me like 2-3 weeks with the GPX before I felt like I could get a consistent grip. Imo the G303 is probably the better choice, but if you want ultra light ambidextrous nice glide shape then get GPX. G303 doesn't feel insanely light to me. Some people like light and others don't idk. Or if you have the money just buy them both and return the one you don't like. I'm doing that, but I think I'm just keeping them both because they're both great.
you still love it?
Yeah just as much. I should be posting my full review tonight with my matured thoughts and recommendations.
@@KraftyCraftKraf in kovaaks i could increase all scores but grip feels a bit forced. Dont want to Push the Mouse too hard into the Back of the hand
Super understandable. I’ve always death-gripped my mice and I still had some hand strain at the beginning. it’s crazy how hard you have to squeeze the weird shaped hump to get stability. I got used to it quickly and built muscles fast, so I recommend you stick with it for a little bit, and only stop if it starts to injure you or cause other issues. You’ll probably be surprised how quickly your strength builds.
original 303 rgb missing
I'm useing mz1 for fingertip and I began to love it. However I'm looking for a mouse for claw grip because I use to play claw and want to try it again. I have m42and it is a perfect claw shape for me because it is smaller then xm1 but the clicks cable and hole on the side all bother me. I want a wireless mouse though. Thinking about the g303 but every reveiw says it's very good or very bad.should I take the chance or should I just buy a superlight.
Take a chance. I was a mz1 user as well. Once I moved my computer around, the cable couldn't reach any usb ports anymore, hence I was looking for a wireless alternative until they release a mz1 wireless.
Moving to the g303 shroud gave me the same aim confidence as the mz1. Had a few days of getting used to it, and then I was hitting shots I could have only done with an mz1 prior to this. I tried alternatives like the g pro wireless, starlight 12, m4, symm 2 etc and the g303 is still the best among all. Hand size 17x10
@@shadowsuke thanks for your input. I think I will give it a try. I had g pro wireless. Twice in the past and for some reason it made my hand cramp above my middle finger. I think because the hump is to high in the middle for my grip style
The feet felt fine for me out of the box but after 2 days of use on hayate otsu I had to rip them off they became so muddy I got ghetto feet now mz1 corepads installed, looks weird but way better glide for me.
Hmm that's interesting. I've been using it on smooth pads and only pulled out textured ones for some brief testing so it's interesting to see how they wear out on those surfaces.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Yeah, I dunno how maybe they are coated or something I have no idea I get this issue on tiger arc 1 feet but it takes 2 weeks not 2 days and I don't have this issue with corepads or tiger ice feet.
I am so early the video only has 360p as an option lol
you may end up with g303 as a main but i didnt understood why it overwhelm g pro x superlight...
Shape is king. The potato is usable but gets immediately overshadowed by other shapes for me.
@@KraftyCraftKraf most of my friends claim that side buttons are weirdly placed and weight could be better, also this shape isnt also KING like its wierd.. i've got orochi and its i guess the same issue that ring and little finger are weirdly placed..
u think the shape is weird but its actually the best shape a mouse could be
my favorite mouse of the g305 ive been wanting to upgrade to a more premium mouse. I use a more relaxed claw grip on a low sense would you recommend it?
It could work out well for you. It certainly feels as premium as mice can get and will feel like a great upgrade compared to the g305. The shape is actually somewhat similar to a g305, just way more aggressive in every way and a little larger. That and the Orochi v2 are the only shapes that feel even somewhat similar to the g303. I think that it will still work for a relaxed claw, but it does seem to be designed for an aggressive grip, so be aware of that.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Thank you so much for the feed back. I have tried the Orochi v2 but it was a bit small for me.
would this also fit like 17x9 cm hands?
Maybe. You might start to have issues with the hump width and overall length making it hard to wrap your hand around the mouse and get a good grip. I've seen someone with similarly sized hands in my comments saying they liked the mouse, but size preferences are very personal so it's hard to say.
@@KraftyCraftKraf thank you for answering yeah that's what I thought too because I'm currently using the gpro x rn and since this is a safe shape idk how it feels to grip the g303 because of the hump but tysm!
what's your main mouse?
S2-C
holy shit we have the exact same claw grip😅
Pincer claw master race.
Nice review;) But dude slow down your speaking speed, u speak so fast need to slow down your playback. ^^
I had high expectations for the G303 wireless. I was a G303 user for years and loved it. After playing with this new wireless version I am frustrated because they've increased the height of the mouse which makes it too tall and uncomfy to me. I know its built for shroud but when you have to tailor to the mainstream if this is going to be sold publicly.
Lol i swear we are the same person. Been on g303 for 4 days now and after trying so many combinations the g303 + xten is by FAR my endgame combination.
I would love your take on mouse feet though. I mainly use after market feet and the only thing i find weird is the g303 feet are good but slower.
Edit: By slower i don't mean it in a bad way; just that slight micro, especially on control pads, feels a bit delayed. Where as tiger arc 1 (my favs) feel more immediate in there action.
Damn, we just always align I guess, weird. I haven't too adventurous when it comes to mouse feel and have only tried corepads and tiger ice. I like both of them a lot and have yet to find any stock feet that can compare to how they feel besides roccat's heat treated options. Ice are super sooth and fast with an extremely premium feeling glide that helps smooth out surfaces. Corepads are just slightly slower and not as buttery smooth, but they really accentuate the surface texture of pads like the xten and help them to feel more controlled and responsive. I'll have to get around to trying tiger arcs sometime and see how I feel. Lethal's upcoming glass skates look cool too.
@@KraftyCraftKraf yeah have to give the glass skates a try for sure. I think you'll love arc 1s. Imagine the textured feel from corepadz but the smoothness of ice. The glide isn't as fast as ice but it's buttery smooth while providing good mousepad feel and stopping power just shy of corepadz. My personal favorites. They are basically very close in feel to roccats heat treated feet.
Hmm that sounds worth a try. I certainly still prefer corepads over roccat's feet, but I'm down to give them a shot and spice things up a little.
@@KraftyCraftKraf cool! cant wait for the full review.
This is completely unrelated, but generally do you prefer high or low sens?
Medium I guess? I've been using anywhere from 37-27cm / 360 depending on the game and how I'm feeling.
You speak so fast that I first had to check whether the video is fast-forwarded.
haha I already talk pretty fast and I was so excited to talk about this mouse I couldn't help but go even faster.
I actually watched the video in 0.75 speed . lol
360p gang
I just realized that u talk like abed from community :D
I do? lol
It kinda makes sense now that I think about it though. Similar delivery lol.
Its one of tow things , u will love it too much, or u will hate it , no middle ground for this mouse
You guys that show your mouse from above are strange.
130 bucks for a mouse? 😂
An expensive mouse will not make you more skilled.
Had to watch with 0.75 speed. Dude you speak too fast. :-)
Razer clone coming in 3-2-1...
too much talk. its a fucking mouse.