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Logitech G303 Shroud Edition: Claw-Grip Endgame
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- Опубліковано 18 сер 2024
- The G303 Wireless is easily my current main and the perfect shape for my claw grip. It's insanely good if you are able to use the grip I detailed in this video and get comfortable on such a unique shape.
I might have gone a little bit overboard with this one, but I wanted to take my time to create a video that can do this mouse justice.
Sorry about the weird audio. No idea what happened to cause the static.
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0:00 - Intro
0:29 - Shape (Overview and Grip Style)
3:19 - Shape (The Hump)
10:34 - Shape (Angular Sides)
21:23 - Shape (Why it Works)
22:29 - General Features
32:49 - Wrapup
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The detail you go into is so fucking amazing, NO ONE ELSE ON UA-cam IS DOING THIS. Keep at it! You will be huge
In my opinion for me, picking up and holding the mouse was perfectly natural without learning how to pick it up. Just felt like picking up a pen. I felt one with the mouse right off the start. Amazing. No more looking for the end game mose for me. So much money spent looking for the right one and I am finally can say I found it.
Aware
My only issue so far is how the mouse tilts backwards when I push my palm down on it. No matter what grip (other then finger tip) I use it does this
Shroud even said "I didn't make a mouse for everyone, I made a mouse for me." Lol. He did say he hopes people like it though
What a selfish prick
Should accommodate more people
Shroud : this is my mouse!
Repent and believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ and you will be saved 😊
Thanks for the review, very detailed as always. Don't change that going foward.
🎉 killer review and explanation- wow. Showing the grip gaps from the bottom was VERY helpful. Purchased this mouse and personally love it. Not for everyone but you cleared up everything perfectly. Be proud 🎉
Just wanted to say this review was awesome. I got the mouse and since day 1 it has literally been the most comfortable and immediately well performing mouse I think I've ever used and I have like 25+ of them sitting on my drawer collecting dust lol. Your own explanation regarding the pincer claw grip actually helped me understand my own grip on the mouse a lot more and why it works so well for me. I've just been generically calling my grip a claw grip or relaxed claw grip but from your description I definitely have a pincer claw grip and it works exceptionally well with this mouse with 19.5 x 10.5 cm hands. My thumb so very naturally just death grips the left side of the mouse with tons of strength.. I didn't even have to mentally think about it the first time I laid hands on the mouse. Same with the the right side of my palm where it feels super stable and locked in. The thumb "meat" portion of my hand just barely touches the mouse on the left side and I have tons of micro-adjustability with this mouse. Maybe it's because my hand size is just a tad larger, but I never even had that "learning" period or any type of strain when I first started using the mouse. It just instantly felt natural. I feel like I hit the lottery with the changes they made to this mouse compared to the OG G303 shape because everyone and their mother has been complaining about the new G303 and the size increase. But I actually find the new one to be vastly superior in comfort and my own in-game performance with it... it feels AMAZING and just like you said, end game material... until they release a Superlight version that is... but I won't hold my breath for that... it's already a pretty niche shape so who knows if they will ever do that. Hopefully it sells well enough that they do come out with the Superlight version, but it's so damn comfy that it wouldn't even bother me to continue using this 74g weight.
74 gr is not that bad anyway, all vaxee mice are above that weight, XM1R is about 72 gr. It will absolutely feel better at around 60-65 gr but not sure if it's ever coming out.
Bought one recently and I have same experience as you. Love the mouse and just feels perfect for my hands. Feels so natural as picking up a pen to write.
Im late but i'll say it anyways
The reason its about 75g is because shroud complained that the superlight was too light
Otherwise they totally could have made this weight around the same as the superlight
Plus it isnt worth it to rework a premium mouse like this
@@pate00711 It feels planted so well in your hands that the weight is really not felt
@@asoshkin i've tried both and i prefer the lower weight but in this case where the shapes are widely different then i prefer the g303 as well
I don't even know what I'm doing here, I went down the rabbit hole of mice made for comfort and productivity and I love gaming mice because of the various hand grips. I realized I was a claw grip with how I hold mice, this feels like such a perfect shape!
I really like that you’ve put time stamps going forward, great video 👍
Really, really, enjoy your reviews. You are a natural at this, your pacing, explanation, and understanding of your own vs. a viewers preferences are really appreciated. I probably won't go with this, as the GPX has been incredible for me. Keep up the great content, I can see you going far!
I honestly didnt know how to grip this mouse at first but after finding this video after while my aim got a lot better thanks
I think it is the most detailed review I know and it is not boring
I watched all the videos and there are many similarities to the feelings I felt.
I don't understand all English, but 80% ? I understand to some extent
I couldn't write the sentence, so I wrote it through google translate
always thank :)
For the whole video I thought I was watching a 100k + channel, I check your sub count and was shocked, keep up the great work
This was one of the best review for any mouse ive ever seen. Really appreciate the effort you made into this mouse. Gonna pick one up !
This is literally my dream mouse. My old G303 has been used to death and I can’t justify replacing it until this one came out. Also on the subject of grip, I just hold and use this mouse with my thumb and ring finger and fingertip grip it.. for anyone wanting a reference for how some people can hold it. I have very slightly above average hands and I aim much, much better with this mouse even though others are honestly more comfortable to use all day.
what's your hand size?
Absolutely flawless review. I've only had it for like a day now so time will tell but great work. I have no doubt your channel will explode ❤
Ty!
I really liked how u went in-depth about the mouse grip! Really great review, keep it up dude!
Enjoying these long reviews a lot! Great job!
So far best review yet. This how i grip the 303 and really tells people who this is for. G pro superlight was way to small for me. 👍
I have 18x9.5 hands and been using a G403 for years. Excited for the G303 to be delivered because I've been looking for a mouse that locks in the grip.
E: My G303 arrived, but it doesn't work due to firmware problems. Love the shape, love the switches. I am surprised at how it immediately felt right in the hand. The weight is good, not the lightest on the market, but shape is more important. I am determined to have a working G303 because this mouse is definitely for me.
So i should replace my g703 with this one? My hands are 20x11. I claw grip g703 quite aggressively (relying on lower part of my palm) but kinda cant lock 100% in.
This video gave me the confidence to buy and keep the mouse because I knew exactly how to use it.
The Perfect Mouse Review Ever on youtube ???
Absolute banger of a review !
My g303 se arrives in 2 days
The most scientific mouse reviews out there, keep up the great work! Amazing video, I'd be super curious to try the shape out!
I picked up the G303 se after watching your initial review and have been using it for a few weeks. I have never felt so consistent aim wise. I could use any sens on this mouse and feel confident, especially on high sens which I could never use accurately before.
That's the real test honestly, if a mouse lets you use high sensitivity it means it's allowing *you* to be more precise. Too many people get ultra lightweight mice, struggle to control them, and have to lower their sens to make it work. That literally means they are *less* accurate with those nice, since they have lost physical control over it, it's just working for them with sensitivities that have more margin for error, which is the only advantage of low sens.
Holy! Oratorical Masterpiece. I'm so glad to have stumbled on to this channel.
I have big palms so it fits like a glove and almost forces me to use it correctly. Love this mouse
Crazy professional review! I learned a lot! Thank you
Subscribed after 2 minutes. Awesome review!
Picked it up after watching this, love it
bought this mouse a while ago and just could not use it almost at all until I watched this video and now I dont want to put it down thank you
Insanely detailed vid, actually respect!
Love the reviews man, always so informative and I love that you cover all the little details.
Don't know if you want advice on your videos but the only thing I can think that would make them better is less cuts, or at least don't have every sentence sound like it's the end of a paragraph. The tone of it can make your speech feel very stilted. All love though ❤️
No worries. I always appreciate constructive criticism.
It would be very hard for me to make a watchable video with less frequent cuts. I have a stutter so I need to do a few takes to get just a sentence or a half out fluently. Then I heavily edit the fluent cuts together to try to simulate someone who can speak properly. The point about how I end my sentences is a good one though. I do tend to use a falling inflection too much when I'm trying to record something. It'll should sound better if I use it less, so I'll try to be more aware next time. Ty
I struggle with the same issues, especially when trying to record, so I absolutely understand your issues. And thank you, falling inflection was the term I was trying to think of, I'm glad you understood what I was trying to convey. I definitely think you have potential to be one of the best tech reviewers out there if you find your niche and a way to market it. If you ever want a consult on video ideas or the quality of them I'd be glad to lend my opinions just because I enjoy the content. I can't claim to be an expert on this but I've done some independent studying and research because it's just an interesting topic to me.
Amazing video very analytical and informative, keep going bro
Crazy review. Nuts. Thanks for the info.
Now… I’ve been practicing and using fingertip grip with a claw hybrid for long range fine movements, been using the aerox 3 wireless design for many many years with the rival 3 wired etc… I loved the shape of this mouse and the perfect clicks that this mouse provided. I just couldn’t bring myself to change my grip style after all these years. It’s like relearning how to walk and losing almost all of your previous skills in those terms. Otherwise I would’ve kept it, never felt a mouse so perfect and good once you get the grip down. I’m sad that I had tot ale it back because I know if I put some hours into it I would’ve been able to get it down but time is not a luxury I possess. I would highly, highly, HIGHLY recommend this mouse for anyone who uses claw grip and is willing to change up their grip a little. Was too dramatic of a change for me personally.
this was an AMAZING review!
36 minutes, holy shit this is so good
What an excellent review! Wished I found your vid earlier. After using the Roccat Kone Pure for over 5 years, it finally wore down. Went ahead and got the G303 Shroud. Its priced too high but it was worth the risk since it could be the perfect mouse for my grip. Its a polarising design and took me a few hours to get use to and applying abit more pressure for stablility. But the magic happened, I was already exceeeding my performance only after a few hours of usage, sniping was more concise and I could snap onto the targets better. However, I found it difficult due to the grip to pull down on high recoil guns, this is one area I haven't resolved yet.
My other concerns is, this mouse is not ideal for me for both work and play, as I usually have a more relaxed grip during work. I've pulled the plug on the Pro X Superlight as a quest to find my perfect mouse for the next few years, it'll arrive soon. Only one way to find out is to spend unfortunately....
You got your GPX yet? Which one feels better
I’m using the GPX exclusively. It just feels more comfortable for my small/medium hands. It immediately felt natural. The shroud was returned!
@@jayc0au Alright! Did you feel like G303's rear end (the hump) was weird or that it prevented the full range of motion? I have GPX but would like to try this one out for it's capability of aggressive grip
@@Troijjan I did feel the hump but I don’t think it affected my ability. It didn’t bother me during gaming. Regarding my performance, it’s the same between the gpx and g303 but I could relax abit more with the gpx and have longer gaming time. G303 wasn’t optimal for me but I’m only a sample of one.
@@jayc0au thanks, I appreciate your answer! I went for it and ordered it tonight! I hope its a fit for me, my hand is quite wide (almost 11cm) so 303’s width wont be a problem. I also like the diamond shape I suppose. I shall see! With GPX I’ve been feeling a bit too relaxed honestly
After 2-3 weeks with this mouse I am in complete agreement with Krafty that this my end game mouse. I basically get the stability of my previous favorite mouse, the XM1R, but with more range of motion due to the sloped sides, and surprisingly more comfort, plus wireless! Only way it could be better if it was lighter, so I'll have to shell out more money for the Superlight version of the G303. This mouse made me not interested in looking at mice anymore, although I'll be watching your ZA13C review just for fun. I already broke almost all my kovaaks scores with this mouse as well.
I do want to add my grip is a bit different than yours. I place my hand lower on the mouse than you so the end of the mouse is hitting around upper part of my palm, most of contact being on the line of myhand and my middle knuckles. Because all the contact is basically on my middle knuckles, my thumb and pinky just naturally fall into place on sides, and my hand rests flush with the pad, while I use only my thumb and pinky to move the mouse, while the end of my hand, thumb, and pinky are touching the pad at all times even during movement. For me this is an extremely natural feel, and I feel even more precise because how my hand is in contact with the pad, but I don't have to do the aggressive squeeze like you. This is how I pincer claw the mouse. There are some variations with how you can grip this mouse, but I do agree with you that it has to be some form of pincer claw.
Same for me. 18.5x11cm hands and i grip it more relaxed, so my thumb is a Bit more back like where square is marked between those two shroud dots. I feel quite good with that style. Otherwise too stiff
here in this video is the exact spot where my thumb is: ua-cam.com/video/U11Z3QNgSBQ/v-deo.html
Great review, I appreciate your attention to detail.🤙
For someone with normal hands- But a 1-3-1 claw grip. This mouse is perfect !
rapping skills 10/10
lol
maii mannn, u r me, i am u, i can feel it, happy to be in these comments that all here are this specific grip style users, happy to hear and watch this video subs to u, is this still ur main? if yes then what else changes do u feel u need form the mouse and what u u feel are alternatives to this specific kindof mouse, how the hell u have only 3k subs u kidding me, easy sub man. me subbed
You are not the only one mentioning rattle in their reviews. Its coming from the scroll wheel most likely. That is what most reviewers have said at least.
I've never really been able to put my own grip into words but it's exactly what you described here, perhaps with more of the underside of my knuckles on the hump. It makes sense I've developed to grip most mice like this since I've had a G302 for the longest time.
Tried to switch over to an orochi v2 but over long periods of time the mouse is a bit uncomfortable due to it being a bit too thin for me(17.5x9.5 hands here).
Currently on the mm720 and it fits almost quite literally like a glove personally. Curious if you've tried it yourself.
A little unsure if the ring finger rest helps or harms my aim, or if it has any effects at all.
Anyway keep up the good work! Don't think I've come across anyone else who goes this in-depth with shape analysis.
I haven't tried the mm720 yet but I'm pretty interested. The shape looks super cool and it seems like it would work well for my grip, plus it's super unique. I'm just waiting for the matte finish version to go on sale like the glossy one was a while ago.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Yeah definitely wait for the matte version, unless you're willing to scrub off the glossy finish with the rough end of a dishwasher sponge, heard that works.
Looking forward to your video on it(and other vids) when the time comes, no rush though 👌
i got this mouse 3 days ago and i already like it more than the superlight which i have had from 2 years
thank god this video existed
Just got mine today and can confirm the little rattle on my copy as well, nothing that bothers but a bit disappointing for such an expensive mice.
The vibration is very noticiable in my copy, when you use the scroll wheel or in a fast flick and reposition you can feel it. Awkward but I guess you can get used to it.
I agree with everything you said about the shape, I have 10.3 x 18.5 cm hands I can only do the aggresive claw / pinser grip you talk about. Adapted to it quite fast and know is a matter of finding the best spot for my fingers, right now they are about the same position as yours.
Feet are pretty bad, not scratchy I agree, but quite slow.
clicks are ok, nothing special I do appreciate the "no" post travel, side clicks are ok as well.
wireless is great, very low LOD (not sure how good this is)
Have to try it for more time but so far I definitely CAN NOT recommend this mice, too risky for most people and way too expensive.
I think the rattle may just be the slide out tray for the Wireless dongle.
Great review
Good stuff. I have a slight rattle in mine also. I watched Bearded Bob's tear down video. There are three springs in the mouse. One under each main button that helps the click rebound faster and a bigger spring under the bar that supports the scroll wheel. My guess is the slight rattle is from the main button rebound springs and the bigger scroll wheel spring is what gives off that reverberation sensation when you pick up/down the mouse on the pad. I like this mouse, especially with the white lethal gaming glass skates I put on it. If you take this mouse apart, I assume lubing the springs (like you'd lube keyboard stabs/switchs) would be the fix. I'd try it but don't want to risk breaking the glass feet.
I like that the sensor is placed further back. makes fingertip aiming more consistent and less bumpy if that makes sens
Very detailed review. Might need to look into this. I use a pincer grip as well and have been using the Viper Mini shape (PMM PV-P S); I aim well with it, but it's horribly uncomfortable. I have 17x10cm hands, so seems like it may fit me decently enough.
Wow... so the height of the buttons on the deathadders from the mousepad is why I always felt weak in my ability to click quickly. Like you explained my clicking fingers are lifted up like a spider lifting it's front legs, which is a weaker position.
I'm trying it out and I'm liking it so far, but my comfortable grip doesn't allow me to reach my M5 (front) side button. I might keep trying to find a good grip because I have a lot of time to return it. Thanks for the review!
This one also my new main one of a kind 😈
really really good vid
I just got mine a few days ago. Grip wasn't the issue for me but the side buttons are so high and past a rounded edge which makes you have to lift your thumb off and up to use them. Feels very awkward.
Haha za13c the mouse I was waiting for till I got the g303.. loving it btw.. I’ll be looking forward to that 1, you might get the first za c variant video out I’ve seen so if you do a first impressions. Cheers
yeah I like the g303 too
I sort of grip my G pro the exact same way you're describing, besides that I dont really put my palm into the back that much right now (I think it also causes slight instability because of that).
My hand size is 17.5x9.5 would that be large enough for this mouse?
i have the exact same same grip style and hand size I totally agree with you this mouse is perfect for me, i wish they made a g303 superlight tho
I would be really interested in seeing a mouse / mousepad collection video or a video on the progression of your main mice and pads.
That actually could be a pretty cool video. I’ll keep it mind.
Women : i want to see your grip ,
Man : 😏
the sensor feeling more snappy/responsive/smooth is because the HERO sensor runs 17000fps compared to 12000fps on other standard mice. dont know abt the focus+ sensor(razer 3399)
I'm gonna 3d print this for my g305
For me I wish thr height was a little shorter from the end and the length was shorter, it would be the perfect mouse for me but i keep going back to the cooler master mm711/712, Awesome through review
i wud love an alternatives to the mouse sectoin ir video, i am guessing it isnt available because there isnt currently one good alternative to this style, if u know something pleaaase please mention here
I'm really want to try this mouse, I had G302 Deadalus (prior OG G303) and its diamond shape was indeed great for aiming, but at its hump in the right a edge cave in my hand between the pinky and middle finger painfully. Wonder if a wider hump on this remaster will fix it.
I’ve been going back to the g301 over all the mice I’ve tried the last 3-4 years & something tells me this mouse could change that.
I have G303 og is this gonna be much bigger or not? i play with the same grip like you .. the best video on this mouse thank you
Just ordered it :)
The 303shorud seemed to stick out at the back, so I tried not to buy it.
With a short length of 117mm, I don't think there will be any problems with mobility.
(I don't like the back side sticking out, for example: xm1r,np01)
When I spray, I tend to lower the vertical movement only with my wrist.
Would it be good for me? The size was good when I grabbed it, but I haven't actually played it
TIL, I have a "pincher" claw grip. Back of my RVU only makes contact with the bottom pinky side of my palm.
i agressive tilt, claw(ish) a g203... You think I would like this? it looks like it has the same type of lift with material look instead of a "comfort curve" lift.
You've got these detailed shape reviews down. I might give this mouse a try although I have noticed that the NP-01 is also a mouse that excels with this grip style for me at least. There is a bit more contact than demonstrated in the video with the G303, but the pressure points remain the same.
I played 1 month on my G303 Shroud and after purchasing the Razer Viper mini and the first day of using it, I got better results in the aim lab. Maybe the g303 is comfortable to grip with claws, but when I play it feels like I'm playing brick. The Viper Mini is very light, narrow and low and therefore your movements are very light and fast. When you switch to the cable after a long time of playing on wireless mice (Logitech G Pro / G303 Shroud), you immediately feel that the sensor works more smoothly. I have medium hands 19/9.5. I gonna try to buy Razer Viper Ultimate and check maybe will be better than mini
Is muscle strain for a new mouse shape common?
Do you think best Grip for Maximum control with this mouse is Wrist Claw?
Sides -> I was sure the sides of it would be great for my claw natural fingers, And now I have less doubt about the Hump for my Grip. (pinky ringy like go
Hump -> something I still doubt about I wish had more angle or at least more mentions, is about the Wrist/Back-Palm and touching mousepad.
Wrist/back-Palm -> As I Saw Shroud's grip, seems His wrist touches the mousepad and life half amount of back of his palm is out of the mouse; the thing that seems similar on your grip on this video,...
My hand Size is 17.5x10cm (my higher width took some doubt about the Hump for wrapping)
Currently have to use S2 which don't like but kinda got use to wrap on both side of the humb and a bit tilted... (still better for Ring finger cuz Superlight's flatiness on right side was hurting but not like the hole for ring finger which makes me sure about finger potion on G303)
Thing is I don't like to wrist Claw (at least on mouses I had which non was like this shape) or touching mousepad, rather to control weight of my hand with elbow (out of desk) and put it on Arm which is only part touches the desk/pad. But If Wrist with it gives max Control...
I think that resting your wrist on the pad would certainly feel the best with this shape. It would be hard to get it up off of the pad because there isn't much hump to rest your hand on top of. Mice with wider backs would certainly feel better to pull off this grip style and I feel you would lose some of the benefits that you can get from the angular back if you make your wrist angle too high.
I’ve been 3 hours on the g303 after using it I went back to g pro x it felt like I’m removing my cast the only issue I’m having is vertical aiming I’m still going to try to adjust to the mouse
How would you compare the g303 to the np01s? Currently loving the np01s shape but my hands will get cramped after using it for a period of time. currently using a claw grip too and Hand size are 18x9 cm
they are very very different, there is no way I could compare the grip feeling between them. With that hand size I don't think this mice would be a good fit tbh. You should check out the symm 2 it might be really good for you, Gretxa v2 as well. Good luck
18x9 should be fine
wanted to buy this but then i found myself the G302. not the OG g303 but it's close, just with a hard cable cord and rather outdated sensor. But i've been enjoying and the shape, i didn't want to spend that much on the new one just yet but after using the g302 i know what to expect.
I wanted to find a claw grip specialised mouse, like an egg shape, but the GPx superlight is such a leap above every mouse, there's really no egg mouse as light and wireless, so I'm really unsure what to get...
What are your thoughts on the finalmouse starlight 12 if you can get it for retail? Is it worthy or would you still used the g303
Crazy review! Hope you will review mz1 the same way!
I'm not super interested in the mz1, but there's been a couple other people who have said that they want me to check it out so I might have to pick up up sometime.
Other mice feel wrong after using this one
im love it
Thanks for the in-depth review bro! I’m ready to literally pull the plug on the g303 for Christmas but I do have my own opinions of whether it’ll be good for me or not since I’ve tried the old g303 from my cousins og setup. Oh yeah I wanted to ask you about your ducky one 2 sf. How does gaming feel with whatever switches you got? Is it the 2019 year of the pig or 2020 with the rat? Sorry for asking, I’m just in a keyboard crisis ever since my one 2 mini pure white broke with cherry browns. I’ve tried the newly updated sf but the cherry browns are not how I imagined from my 2019 one 2 mini. How does movement and gaming feel for you in terms of how the switches feel if that makes sense? Sorry again for the long comment
Its just the normal one2 sf board, no special edition. Mine has mx silvers and they feel pretty good to me. I've only ever used two mechanical boards so I'm not that qualified, but it feels like it performs how I want it to in game. They feel fast and responsive and I like the short travel with the smooth linear feel. I did have some key chattering issues, but I was able to clean the switches out with some alcohol and now its totally fine. The board in general feels pretty high quality as well. I'd recommend it from what I've experienced.
@@KraftyCraftKraf Got chu bro. Respect and understandable. Sorry for my dumb wording, I meant to say which spacebar did you receive if theres a rat design or the pig one. Thank you for responding though I appreciate. I'm just asking because even though I've built two custom keyboards after my one 2 mini broke, nothing feels like how I want it to feel comparing it to my one 2 mini with mx browns. I'm literally in a keyboard crisis and I literally shouldn't be worry about it but I am if that makes sense.
I think I'm holding it very similar to to you, just at a straight angle
Is this still your main mouse KC?
I would assume that rattle is just the battery
Would love to try the m2k but that price... I think I'll get the 303 instead
pretty sure i have hand problems, ring finger on the side not on right mouse button cause so much stiffness and pain i got big hands i think 21x11 Reynard's disease i think i have
Is there a mouse that's a more natural shape that also has USB-C? - everything I can find is MicroUSB, I am not buying MicroUSB in 2022 lol
Man i really wanted to like this mouse, sadly my ring finger suffered a fracture and didn't heal at a completely straight angle. I got this mouse put my grip on it, and the inner left side of my ring finger rubs on the outer ridge of the right mouse button. Just very unlucky overall for me. This would have been the perfect mouse for my grip.
Hey, if you apply a grip tape(not to thin) on the side of your mouse you may not hit the right mouse click anymore. My ring finger als touched the right mouse button on my hati s but using grip tape fixed it.
I want this mouse now
What is your hands size?
Watch out Glorious model o fans coming right up
i have hands on the smaller side would this be a no go? i use a g pro rn just feel like its just a little too small
I would be really cautious with small hands and this mouse. Size is very much preference so you could very well like it a lot, but the shape is so extreme that I could see some major issues with you being able to get a comfortable grip. Also, I would say that it does certainly feel larger than the gpro wired shape so if that's your main concern it could feel better in that regard.
How long did it take you to get used to it?