A lot of people hating on this keyboard, people don't buy this keyboard for gaming. It's mostly used for educational, artistic, office and business purposses. I like that it's different from the cliche squared key caps and theyve decided to be innovative and fun with this design rather than alike everyone else. I would like if this had backlit keys but i enjoy this simplicity for what it is. The versetility with options to connect to and hold in place different devices which you did not show e.d phones and tablets is also what one ups this keyboard. A lot of mechanical keyboards you have shown and i have seen all over youtubers is the same old mechanical keyboard with the same capabilties nothing new, i like that this is more and this is different.
I agree ! you explained that very well! I recently did an Unboxing my new round keycaps Japanese keyboard on my channel and I love it bc it is unique and different from the squared key caps xoxo
I’ve been daily driving the keyboard (I gifted my mom the mouse and she loves it) for now 8 months now and can really say it’s a comfortable keyboard, you can game on it no issue (unless you play stuff like Fortnite where you gotta do multiple inputs to play) and with the Logi+ app you can attach shortcuts to the emojis which makes it so good imo
Definitely has more of a "lifestyle product" feeling than "useful tool" feeling. Not that the 100s of gaming mechanical keyboards on the market aren't also just lifestyle products.
I feel like it’s still a useful tool though. Like, it’s way more expensive than the K380, but, for example, I am looking at it because I want to get a wireless keyboard that can connect to a bunch of devices (namely my iPad, work Mac and any future laptop that I may buy for myself) while also being on the smaller and slightly portable side. I do agree that compared to the K380 it’s more on the lifestyle product than pure usefulness
Nicholas: "I love the idea of typing on an actual typewriter." also Nicholas: "...the keys go so far down that your fingers are a little deep when you go to move it away." That is ... how mechanical typewriters are. You press your fingers into the keys like you walk in deep snow, all while using some snappy force.
@@G-Mastah-Fash oh yeah that’s so annoying, and now that I’ve typed on one I hit my regular keyboard keys way too hard and even with o-rings and red switches it’s decently loud.
@@G-Mastah-Fash Idk, that is really up to personal preference, I have an Olympia Ragina de Luxe, and although it took a bit to get used to typing on it, once I got into the groove, I much prefer it over my normal keyboard. But that is just me and honestly I understand why you wouldn't like it.
There's no need to add extra keycaps, it's just that instead of having, say, the M1-M5 macro keys, you now have the laughter macro, the crying macro, the fire macro... It sounds much more fun like this imo.
more keyboard content! If they included a set of generic keycaps to use instead of the emojis and you could map it to macros and stuff, this would be a super cool productivity keyboard. I wish more mechanical keyboards had multipoint Bluetooth, my WFH setup requires me to switch between a work computer and my desktop often enough that I main a Keychron purely because of that.
Yes! I'd want a calculator key because I use it so much at work. If it had that they could have my money... even though I don't actually NEED this and all my equipment works perfectly great.
@@KodyCollects I use a USB switch to switch my keyboard, mouse, headset and webcam from my personal desktop to my work laptop. It works great and cost me like 30€.
Same, modded K2 with lubber silent alpacas because I need to switch between my work computer and laptop and I don't want my co-workers to hate me for having a loud keyboard
i just recieved my pop keyboard and I am loving it! The keys are actually quite soft and easy to type but it is definitely higher than the usual square keypads that we are using. I actually dont use the emoji functions but I customised the keys settings for the emoji buttons to functions instead eg. lock, page down/up, calculator, change language; not sure if this works for tablet as I am connecting the keyboard and mouse to my computer & laptop. There is also other options to customise the other F keys to other functions or direct to other applications. Same goes for the mouse there are some shortcuts to change the settings according to my own preference. There is a small pouch given which is included in the box to store the extra 4 emoiji keycaps so that I can store away safely. It is also cool for to switch devices with the keyboard which allows multiple and easy switch to 3 devices. At first I was not use to typing on round circular caps but I got use to it after using for a few rounds. The colour combination of the keyboards is great as well. I got mine in daydream mint.
*Gets a decent kill* "This mouse isn't great... Ooh that was a nice headshot... Oooo I just got a double." Linus with top tier gear: "Daaaw how'd I miss that guy?!"
hey one of the things you didn't touch on, which I love about some of the logitech keyboards, is that you can pair them with 3 different devices... like 3 computers, or two computers and your phone... and easily hit the 1,2,3 buttons to switch between computers almost like a KVM.. out of all of the logitech multi-device keyboards, I love the K780 for function, but digging the "mechanical" coolness of this one... for home office use anyway... Thanks dude...
@@arcanethink If someone just getting into mechanical keyboards I would recommend a hotswap board so they could change their mind on switches with a low risk
Man, I'd like Nicolas to go and review the Dygma Raise keyboard. His input is very informative and I'd like to see what his analysis is for my daily driver. Been using it for 2 years and I love the split. I don't have problems with it but I'd like to hear what problems Nicolas may find.
@@kincaide2882 I actually revisited the video after watching this, and thought the coverage of the keyboards were too different. James was more focused on aesthetics and theoretical ways to use, but Nicholas is more on the practical use of typing on the keyboard and how it actually feels.
Agreed, as I have the K480, and the universal tablet folio for my Android tablet/phone, along with a few others, and some of their wireless mice, and, the battery life has been great, plus I'd rather just buy my own rechargable batteries(CR2032coin cells in the case of the folio) instead of having a sealed battery pack that could go bad in a few years, and risk not being able to replace it. Also another benefit of them going with standard batteries is that in the long run it reduces e-waste as people don't end up throwing the whole product out due to a battery they can't replace. More companies could be taking lessions from them on all kinds of products by using more common easy to replace battery standards.
I have one of those really flat remotes that you sometimes get with certain electronics and as such it has a button cell battery in there which I've never replaced before. Just to explain how old this thing is it has a 30-pin iPod connector.
@@bland9876 that's because lithium coin cell batteries batteries for the CR2016 and CR2032 varieties tend to have a 5 to 10 year life span if used lightly in a climate controlled sitting, or in something like a PC motherboard to keep bios settings, and the RTC going.
Sounds like a recipe for a steampunk aesthetic keyboard TBH. Probably exists already, or at least something that matches that look. Real brass would definitely up the price.
Glad they're phasing out the old Linus with the new model. The shave functionality was bugged so it would gradually build over time. Now it seems to have been sorted a bit
"The Plastic [...] there is no deep deep thocc you'd get from a metal case". Just one example of Nicolas throwing around buzzwords and actually saying the opposite of what is true. It's established that plastic cases provide deeper sounds than metal cases. I definitely would NOT trust this reviewer. Not that LTT is specialised on keyboards, I'd at least trust that someone like Anthony would not state things as fact that he doesn't know shit about.
@@lennihein this is ShortCircuit, it's not a review channel, it's an unboxing and opinion channel, so it's all about how they feel and not technical accuracy.
@@AustralianMurderTurtle It's fine to stick with opinions. But that's exactly what Nicolas DID NOT do. He started throwing in things stated as objective fact, when they were objectively false.
I really wanted to like this, I love matching my setups to a theme and they looked super cute. But, when they let me open one instore and I had a tippy tap on them keys I was pretty disappointed. A lot of the keys were very wobbly and some were noticeably softer and harder than others which spoiled it. I still love how it looks but it seems like maybe there's a bit of a qc issue cause people do seem to enjoy it from what I see.
Typing this on my Logitech K380. It's surprisingly high quality, the round keys are super comfortable and it's very clicky. This should be even better... I just now realized how much more convenient it is to use bluetooth instead of USB. As nice as the bigger keyboards are, I love being able to move my keyboard around if I'm writing or drinking coffee.
06:34 - Just to put that typing test in to perspective, most people type at around 40-50 words per minute, people who work with keyboards a lot will get around 60, and the higher bracket of those people will get about 75. People in professional typing positions will need to get around 80-90+, and then anyone around the 120 is considered a super fast typer. So for this guy to hit 114 with 97% accuracy on a keyboard hes just testing is pretty damn good.
Wow, it actually doesn't look very bad! If this was hotswappable, I would definitely consider. I am not deep into the hobby enough to start doing soldering work myself so I'm not gonna be able to customize this board, which is sad. If Plouffe want some streetcred in r/mk, maybe consider desoldering and customizing the board? Lube those Logitech browns, fix the stabilizers (straight wire, holee mod, lube), and put some foam into the case, and let's see if the board can be improved?
This keyboard is one of the cheapest feeling things I've ever touched (took one out of the box to show a customer at work). I have an MK235 from Logitech for raspberry pi's/other computers and honestly I prefer it over this.
@@adamweb No we don't, this looks great! I would love to have hotswap though, so I can take the switches out and lube them. They don't sound bad stock though, but I bet there's a lot of scratch inside. The stabilizers are what I'm hating, those needs to be fixed up, or just replaced. I'm digging the colourways and keycaps! I would've preferred to have the board be VIA/QMK compatible, and also the battery to be just a standard Lithium Ion rechargable one like all the other bluetooth boards out there, but at least the AA batteries are easy to swap out. Yeah, this board is worth looking at for keebsheads if they're willing to desolder all the switches. I do wish Logitech put some Kalih hotswap sockets on these...
I have their Pebl mouse which is what that pop mouse reminds me of. The magnet sucks but I think that increases durability, since the KE gets transferred into the top protecting the body. Since I dropped that mouse like a hundred times and it looks brand new. I also tried the circle keys since we still had a typewriter growing up. They're not good, even if short throw.
Yeah that's the cool thing about just liking what you want instead of appeasing the zeitgeist...you end up enjoying it! I like it too; and I DEFINITELY like the yellow/black colorbase.😀 Are the emoji keys editable to functions other than emojis?
Ok. So, with this keyboard, I learned that Logitech is replacing Unifying receivers with new ones based on "Logi Bolt" technology, which is some extension of BLE 5.0 I hate, that they didn't make a transition period when the devices could be using both as this is probably just a software limitation.
@@nickiebanchou If I recall correctly the bandwidth of the gaming lightspeed accessories was too high to have multiple on one USB port. Maybe if they transition to usb 4 in the future.
BLE chipsets only do BLE, if they wanted one part that does both they would need a custom radio and thats a pretty huge initial cost. There is no real neat solution to this other than a special receiver that just has two radios, which would probably make it larger than the nano size receivers. Then again, why would they sell a BLE receiver when every other wifi chipset already supports it and USB dongles are readily available.
@@Bkindmonk Thats total nonsense, the bandwidth of peripherals is laughably small. They could be running on USB 1.1 just fine. At most, youre looking at 100kbps for mouse and keyboard each. Thats less than 0.05% of the available bandwidth on USB 2.
Not sure why he doesn't like Romer Gs. Been using a Logitech keyboard with Romer Gs for the past year and love it, pretty quiet, nice tactile feel and easy to type on
actually getting one of these deadass. i like that it's small because my current razer keyboard takes up a LOT of my desk space. i also did a quick type test on one of these at my local best buy and i like that the keys bottom out fluidly and quietly (my razer keyboard clicks about halfway before the key bottoms out which feels weird and sounds rattle-y and loud, and that's how it's always been since i got it brand new), and i like that the emoji keys can be assigned to do pretty much anything, so i won't be missing out on the shortcut buttons i like on my razer (the volume up, volume down, wheel is useful so i can carry that over into keys, and it'll be nice to have 2 other keys i can assign to other functions as well). i shall call it the keydrill (because the colour scheme matches the pokémon 'beedrill')
I’ve had this keyboard for like 8-ish months? Honestly, I just wanted something to pair with my Cyberpunk Razor mouse The typing experience is pretty clunky. I was just constantly making irritating errors and my typing speed was taking a pretty gnarly hit. I recently swapped out the key caps for some more tradition ones that I had laying around (for the keys I could switch) and it’s been a marked improvement since then Seems kind of pointless to have this keyboard with normal caps, but I found the gimmick wears off very quickly
Read elsewhere that the keys on these are actually closer together than the standard keyboards. So it's not the depth that's the problem. That pretty much breaks it for me, though, since I'm a really sloppy typer and make mistakes all day even on regular keyboards...quite unfortunate, because I really would love to have this for my iPad Pro.
i have one of these and i haven't noticed that the keys are closer together but i do know they use odd spacing for the keycaps so you really can't get any aftermarket ones right now, the space bar is shorter than average since there's a lot of modifier keys
I have little girl hands so I'd actually be okay with that lol. It sounds great! Now if we could reprogram the emoji keys and it had a split spacebar which could be programmed for backspace..
@@BB-nn9en so you actually can, with their software the emoji keys can just be rebound as macro keys. you can bind button combinations or straight up regular keys to any of the 5 emoji keys on the right
Logitech finally started to listen to their consumers and put MX compatible switches on keyboard. Now, it's only a matter of time before somebody buys it, mods it into a chad keyboard and make a video of the whole process.
Seen these on sale and love the look of them, the mouse is way too small for me but the keyboards just look funky and fun for a nice small wireless keyboard
I was given one by a friend as a present, I sanded off the emojis (using very fine paper and a little water) from the keys and remapped them to be function keys because I'm not 15 and i prefer them blank but its the first mechanical keyboard Ive used in forever and I quite like the feel of the sucker, minus having to relearn how to type on it hah
So, to let people know, this seems to be aimed for the Business market. The reason I say this, is because it does away with the Unifying Receiver, and uses the new "Bolt" Receiver that boasts “Secure wireless connection, robust wireless signal, and cross-platform compatibility for mice and keyboards" which, I'm not too sure about. Regardless, if you are already in the Logitech Unifying ecosystem, this won't work, and you'll have another dongle.
I hate when kbs and mice designed to go together don’t have the same level of click. I’ve used several sets where they were really different and I hated it. If I have a quiet membrane keyboard, then sure, a quit mouse is fine. But if my keyboard is making satisfying mechanical clicks all the time, the mouse should feel and sound that way too.
The biggest flex in this impressions is the WPM. 114 is really good, especially on a new board... damn. Going back to the keyboard, I'm a MX-Brown user, and that space bar don't sound right. I also don't understand emoji, and that colour is... uniquely awful. Overall, I'll be avoiding this. Also, is it common for folks to use emoji on PC? I've only ever seen it on mobile phones. This gotta be a huge niche, right?
people have been using emojis on PC since literally the start of the internet... of course people use emojis on PC... is there some magical other way of putting an expression in a text sentence on PC?
It's cute. Super compact. Colorful. I mean weird colors though. Pastel pink, Pastel purple, and Yellow. Seems like Red, Blue, White, Black would have been where you should have started if you wanted mass market appeal. I guess if you were outfitting a colorful hip modern office place these would make sense. The silent mouse, the relatively quiet but still clicky browns. Small form factor. They kinda scream cubicle warrior. As does the relatively long battery life. I'd just rather buy a Keychron for like half the money and put on keycaps myself.
I tried typing on round keycaps like that before and it was infuriating. I have typed on typewriters before and none had round buttons. Older ones tended to of course. I would be interested in this keyboard for the platform but with different keycaps.
great keyboard, pretty brave move and well designed, hopefully we see much more of these unique styled custom keyboards. Because I would buy one rather than these lamer corsair style ones lol
@@neondemon5137 i do 140wpm in english on a membrane azerty keyboard that i haven't changed in years (... on monkeytype that is, on most other websites i get 110-120wpm)... but i don't reach that speed when typing normally, it's mostly unnecessary past some point. if i had to guess, most people with 100wpm+ have probably typed a lot starting at a young age. i don't think there's any easy trick to increase your wpm. practice is key, but i suspect you may hit a ceiling unless you're willing to spend unreasonable amounts of time on it to catch up. i wouldn't change to a more expensive keyboard just for the sake of increasing wpm. comfort would be the reason. same for things like changing to different layouts.
got one for my mother at a discount, paid one for like 60 bucks, she's really happy with it, and it represents a decent value there. 100 bucks though? eeeeh I wouldn't have paid that much for that. I had hopes I could mod it a little bit but it's very difficult to do anything to that keyboard actually
I love Logitech products high quality; HOWEVER, this keyboard is more a $100 child's gimmick than a true highly functional keyboard for adults. I bought one and did not like it, gave it to my 13 year old niece. Watch as the keys are pressed how loose they are, how they move under the finger. I could not get used to that loose feel, and I doubt most adults will either. This is a substantial feeling keyboard, quality, and it should be to withstand holding up to children's use which is where I see it. Children's use is fine; however, this keyboard is not for most adults and reviewers should address that. Logitech should honestly market it as a thing for children.
I hate to critique in any way but it seems as though he's introducing his subjective hate for Romer-G switches into this unboxing. We get it, you hate Romer-G switches, that doesn't make them a bad choice in general. Romer-G switches are just fine, you just don't like them, make the distinction please.
I vibe with the aesthetics of all this, full stop, but I'd be lying if I said the square mx switches showing underneath the round keycaps doesn't bother me for some reason
"Yea, it's a Logitech keyboard, it's not gonna feel great." I love Logitech keyboards?? when it comes to Logitech mice & keyboards, there really is an answer for just about any use case you need. and I love the feel of just about all of the ones I have. I have also given away quite a few, and everyone has LOVED them. And I have $30 ones all the way up to the $250 dollar G915. Not everyone needs a $800 lubed custom keyboard to be happy.
I unironically love Romer-G's. I ended up buying a Das with the same switches (under a different name) when Logitech stopped pushing the Romer G keyboards out.
I also love romer-Gs lol... And i think a lot of the LMG team does too, they mentioned on the double blind keyboard video that they couldn't test romer G switches because they couldnt put them in that same keyboard they used for everything, and that they really wanted to as a bunch of people on the team loves them.
Linus has changed remarkably since last time
Winus*
"They thought we wouldn't notice...but we did"
Dude, I barely looked at the thumbnail and clicked . Then I was like "I thought this was Linus?" Lol
He's got the wrong hat
Ayatolah Sebastian.
It’s confirmed, Linus it’s a shapeshifter 😨
@@jusunglee6673 lmao he looks a bit like lew
@@shaquilla5852 bot
@A C E • • © please stop you bots
This is the Linus that smokes and plays hockey
It's budget Linus
A lot of people hating on this keyboard, people don't buy this keyboard for gaming. It's mostly used for educational, artistic, office and business purposses. I like that it's different from the cliche squared key caps and theyve decided to be innovative and fun with this design rather than alike everyone else. I would like if this had backlit keys but i enjoy this simplicity for what it is. The versetility with options to connect to and hold in place different devices which you did not show e.d phones and tablets is also what one ups this keyboard. A lot of mechanical keyboards you have shown and i have seen all over youtubers is the same old mechanical keyboard with the same capabilties nothing new, i like that this is more and this is different.
I agree ! you explained that very well! I recently did an Unboxing my new round keycaps Japanese keyboard on my channel and I love it bc it is unique and different from the squared key caps xoxo
I’ve been daily driving the keyboard (I gifted my mom the mouse and she loves it) for now 8 months now and can really say it’s a comfortable keyboard, you can game on it no issue (unless you play stuff like Fortnite where you gotta do multiple inputs to play) and with the Logi+ app you can attach shortcuts to the emojis which makes it so good imo
Definitely has more of a "lifestyle product" feeling than "useful tool" feeling. Not that the 100s of gaming mechanical keyboards on the market aren't also just lifestyle products.
Lol some guy stole your comment
they could of made it smarter by having NFC tags in the keycaps that detects what to bind the key to automatically via a logitech software
I feel like it’s still a useful tool though. Like, it’s way more expensive than the K380, but, for example, I am looking at it because I want to get a wireless keyboard that can connect to a bunch of devices (namely my iPad, work Mac and any future laptop that I may buy for myself) while also being on the smaller and slightly portable side. I do agree that compared to the K380 it’s more on the lifestyle product than pure usefulness
There is literally no reason why products can't be both. Any shortcoming failure to do so is a harsh mark on the designers and reviewers.
@@inadover Keychron has a bunch of Bluetooth Keyboards that can connect to up to 3 devices.
Nicholas: "I love the idea of typing on an actual typewriter."
also Nicholas: "...the keys go so far down that your fingers are a little deep when you go to move it away."
That is ... how mechanical typewriters are. You press your fingers into the keys like you walk in deep snow, all while using some snappy force.
So he was completely truthful then. He likes the "idea" of typing on a typewriter not the reality.
@@phr00tpie maybe. But being in his shoes I would roll up those sleeves, if he really wants to be proficient at typing with that sort of keyboard.
Yeah they're horrible to type on. Especially the ones that get stuck when you press 2 keys shortly after one another.
@@G-Mastah-Fash oh yeah that’s so annoying, and now that I’ve typed on one I hit my regular keyboard keys way too hard and even with o-rings and red switches it’s decently loud.
@@G-Mastah-Fash Idk, that is really up to personal preference, I have an Olympia Ragina de Luxe, and although it took a bit to get used to typing on it, once I got into the groove, I much prefer it over my normal keyboard. But that is just me and honestly I understand why you wouldn't like it.
linus has officially made it, he now has a stunt double for his thumbnails (jk love you plouffe)
I legit thought it was linus lol
@@colewiebe3385 fr
i smell bs
"I hate emojis. I never use them... unless I'm texting my girlfriend" LOL
It sounds fair. I only use emojis texting his girlfriend as well.
"...the heart emoji that's my favourite"
same
Same
Word. Girlfriend would question your love for her if your love emojis count when replying isn't the same or more than her.
the only thing worse than dying to a headshot in a game - is knowing they used this thing to kill me
I can already hear average /r/mousereview user seething and blaming their equipment for not being 1 gram lighter
BUAHAHAHAH Perfect
They sendo you a 👉😎👉
You could use keyboard emoji to express how you feel?
Good thing though is you'll never know lol
I quite like the yellow actually, it is something quite different from what you usually see in terms of keyboard colours.
Ducky also does it
All of them have quite unique colors
colors*
@@shenxi found the american
@@hman6159 true, but rarely with a vibrant shell.
The Lilac version looks so good, I have no need for another mechanical keyboard, but I've so tempted to buy one for work.
I clicked on this thinking it was Linus. How does that even happen ?
same !
I'm pretty sure you have to use Logitech's software to set key binds to the emoji keys and maybe you can use them for other things too.
yeah.
They should make the emoji's optional and just let those keys be programmable Macro keys, they could come with the corresponding keycaps as well.
Emoji/Icon macros.
or just have a programmable keyboard in general, i know Mistel Borroco have a 75% keyboard which is programmable.
They are programmable :)
There's no need to add extra keycaps, it's just that instead of having, say, the M1-M5 macro keys, you now have the laughter macro, the crying macro, the fire macro... It sounds much more fun like this imo.
thats why the emoji keys exist, to be programmable
more keyboard content! If they included a set of generic keycaps to use instead of the emojis and you could map it to macros and stuff, this would be a super cool productivity keyboard. I wish more mechanical keyboards had multipoint Bluetooth, my WFH setup requires me to switch between a work computer and my desktop often enough that I main a Keychron purely because of that.
Yes! I'd want a calculator key because I use it so much at work. If it had that they could have my money... even though I don't actually NEED this and all my equipment works perfectly great.
I use my Keychain for the same thing! I always think about getting a new keyboard, but being able to swap quickly is too important.
@@KodyCollects I use a USB switch to switch my keyboard, mouse, headset and webcam from my personal desktop to my work laptop. It works great and cost me like 30€.
Same, modded K2 with lubber silent alpacas because I need to switch between my work computer and laptop and I don't want my co-workers to hate me for having a loud keyboard
@@KodyCollects a modded Keychron is actually a pretty decent keyboard, I was pleasantly surprised with my K2
i just recieved my pop keyboard and I am loving it! The keys are actually quite soft and easy to type but it is definitely higher than the usual square keypads that we are using. I actually dont use the emoji functions but I customised the keys settings for the emoji buttons to functions instead eg. lock, page down/up, calculator, change language; not sure if this works for tablet as I am connecting the keyboard and mouse to my computer & laptop. There is also other options to customise the other F keys to other functions or direct to other applications. Same goes for the mouse there are some shortcuts to change the settings according to my own preference. There is a small pouch given which is included in the box to store the extra 4 emoiji keycaps so that I can store away safely. It is also cool for to switch devices with the keyboard which allows multiple and easy switch to 3 devices. At first I was not use to typing on round circular caps but I got use to it after using for a few rounds. The colour combination of the keyboards is great as well. I got mine in daydream mint.
"You can't take them out (regarding switches)"
*Spudger and Soldering Iron have entered the chat*
Glad to see more Plouffe reviewing keyboards! More of this please!
"I'm worried about my fingers running into other keys" "Not bad for first time typing on this keyboard"
Casually bangs out 110+ wpm
I know right. I could be just getting older, but I can barely get 90, on a new keyboard (same accuracy). He's doing 20+ more... like, damn.
6:32 thats the best ive seen you do on camera bro
edit: also, i love the fact you are the main keyboard reviewer now
*Gets a decent kill* "This mouse isn't great... Ooh that was a nice headshot... Oooo I just got a double."
Linus with top tier gear: "Daaaw how'd I miss that guy?!"
silent mouse feels really weird at first use... but after some time it will be quite comfortable and surprisef by other mouse clicking sound
hey one of the things you didn't touch on, which I love about some of the logitech keyboards, is that you can pair them with 3 different devices... like 3 computers, or two computers and your phone... and easily hit the 1,2,3 buttons to switch between computers almost like a KVM.. out of all of the logitech multi-device keyboards, I love the K780 for function, but digging the "mechanical" coolness of this one... for home office use anyway... Thanks dude...
Honestly for someone young getting into mechanical keyboards this might be perfect. I can see it fitting perfectly in some niche category
Definitely would be good for smaller hands. Mine would eat the keyboard.
You don't need some weird keyboard to get into mechanical keyboards. Just getting a mechanical keyboard is enough.
@@arcanethink Wacky colors aside, this does count as a "just a mechanical keyboard".
@@arcanethink If someone just getting into mechanical keyboards I would recommend a hotswap board so they could change their mind on switches with a low risk
@@JuanPablo-ho7fg at 100 USD this is terrible value though. There are significantly better, non-tacky mechanical keyboards for under 100 bucks.
Man, I'd like Nicolas to go and review the Dygma Raise keyboard. His input is very informative and I'd like to see what his analysis is for my daily driver. Been using it for 2 years and I love the split. I don't have problems with it but I'd like to hear what problems Nicolas may find.
The raise is already on this channel, reviewed by James I think. It's actually what inspired me to buy it for myself
@@kincaide2882 I actually revisited the video after watching this, and thought the coverage of the keyboards were too different. James was more focused on aesthetics and theoretical ways to use, but Nicholas is more on the practical use of typing on the keyboard and how it actually feels.
The battery life on logitech keyboards is so damn good that I dont even mind them not being rechargable
Agreed, as I have the K480, and the universal tablet folio for my Android tablet/phone, along with a few others, and some of their wireless mice, and, the battery life has been great, plus I'd rather just buy my own rechargable batteries(CR2032coin cells in the case of the folio) instead of having a sealed battery pack that could go bad in a few years, and risk not being able to replace it. Also another benefit of them going with standard batteries is that in the long run it reduces e-waste as people don't end up throwing the whole product out due to a battery they can't replace. More companies could be taking lessions from them on all kinds of products by using more common easy to replace battery standards.
I have one of those really flat remotes that you sometimes get with certain electronics and as such it has a button cell battery in there which I've never replaced before. Just to explain how old this thing is it has a 30-pin iPod connector.
I actually really like the fact it uses batteries. I get rechargeable ones, and tend to cycle. Much better for the planet too.
@@bland9876 that's because lithium coin cell batteries batteries for the CR2016 and CR2032 varieties tend to have a 5 to 10 year life span if used lightly in a climate controlled sitting, or in something like a PC motherboard to keep bios settings, and the RTC going.
Thinking about it, round caps with a brass plate would look sick.
Sounds like a recipe for a steampunk aesthetic keyboard TBH. Probably exists already, or at least something that matches that look. Real brass would definitely up the price.
Glad they're phasing out the old Linus with the new model. The shave functionality was bugged so it would gradually build over time. Now it seems to have been sorted a bit
I have the red/pink one and i love it. The only thing, I wish it had the number pad like the regular keyboards.
"Don't chew on batteries!" I love this dude XD
I really liked this emoji concept. I used emjois quite alot and 5 keys (with shift = 10 emojis) are sufficient and very useful.
maybe...just...don't use emojis?
I love seeing Nicolas review keyboard! He’s the only one from LTT that I trust with keyboard reviews. Keep up the good work!
Not Taran?
"The Plastic [...] there is no deep deep thocc you'd get from a metal case".
Just one example of Nicolas throwing around buzzwords and actually saying the opposite of what is true.
It's established that plastic cases provide deeper sounds than metal cases.
I definitely would NOT trust this reviewer.
Not that LTT is specialised on keyboards, I'd at least trust that someone like Anthony would not state things as fact that he doesn't know shit about.
@@lennihein this is ShortCircuit, it's not a review channel, it's an unboxing and opinion channel, so it's all about how they feel and not technical accuracy.
@@AustralianMurderTurtle It's fine to stick with opinions. But that's exactly what Nicolas DID NOT do. He started throwing in things stated as objective fact, when they were objectively false.
I really wanted to like this, I love matching my setups to a theme and they looked super cute. But, when they let me open one instore and I had a tippy tap on them keys I was pretty disappointed. A lot of the keys were very wobbly and some were noticeably softer and harder than others which spoiled it. I still love how it looks but it seems like maybe there's a bit of a qc issue cause people do seem to enjoy it from what I see.
the looks is pretty solid, one or two generation would probably redefines our statement on this
@@ouwkyuha Bold of you to assume this is going to have a second or a third generation.
Typing this on my Logitech K380. It's surprisingly high quality, the round keys are super comfortable and it's very clicky. This should be even better...
I just now realized how much more convenient it is to use bluetooth instead of USB. As nice as the bigger keyboards are, I love being able to move my keyboard around if I'm writing or drinking coffee.
06:34 - Just to put that typing test in to perspective, most people type at around 40-50 words per minute, people who work with keyboards a lot will get around 60, and the higher bracket of those people will get about 75.
People in professional typing positions will need to get around 80-90+, and then anyone around the 120 is considered a super fast typer.
So for this guy to hit 114 with 97% accuracy on a keyboard hes just testing is pretty damn good.
I had a big time “bruh” moment at that part of the video. Jesus, I don’t think I could type 114 if I trained for the next 6 months
He look like Walmart knock off linus that is surprising better than the name brand version
"you don't need this it just tells you not to chew on batteries"
wait i thought you were supposed to eat them
For a stock keyboard, the keys sound pretty good! Larger keys have a lot of rattle, but the rest of the board sounds rather pleasant.
But Browns…
@@spxctreofficial Most of the people who buy this kind of keyboard would be using it for typing anyways.
@@chrischoy9 still it is browns
@@ciaojay7025 wdym by browns
Wow, it actually doesn't look very bad! If this was hotswappable, I would definitely consider. I am not deep into the hobby enough to start doing soldering work myself so I'm not gonna be able to customize this board, which is sad.
If Plouffe want some streetcred in r/mk, maybe consider desoldering and customizing the board? Lube those Logitech browns, fix the stabilizers (straight wire, holee mod, lube), and put some foam into the case, and let's see if the board can be improved?
not sure why everyone is hating on this thing, the dream color is awesome! i love this board and will definitely pick one up!
keyboard snobs hate brown switches and keyboards under $500 :)
This keyboard is one of the cheapest feeling things I've ever touched (took one out of the box to show a customer at work).
I have an MK235 from Logitech for raspberry pi's/other computers and honestly I prefer it over this.
@@adamweb No we don't, this looks great! I would love to have hotswap though, so I can take the switches out and lube them. They don't sound bad stock though, but I bet there's a lot of scratch inside.
The stabilizers are what I'm hating, those needs to be fixed up, or just replaced.
I'm digging the colourways and keycaps! I would've preferred to have the board be VIA/QMK compatible, and also the battery to be just a standard Lithium Ion rechargable one like all the other bluetooth boards out there, but at least the AA batteries are easy to swap out.
Yeah, this board is worth looking at for keebsheads if they're willing to desolder all the switches. I do wish Logitech put some Kalih hotswap sockets on these...
The yellow is by far the best part…. Plus it’s black with yellow highlights. super sexy color scheme.
I have their Pebl mouse which is what that pop mouse reminds me of. The magnet sucks but I think that increases durability, since the KE gets transferred into the top protecting the body. Since I dropped that mouse like a hundred times and it looks brand new. I also tried the circle keys since we still had a typewriter growing up. They're not good, even if short throw.
I love the yellow grey and black scheme. Feels super late 90s early 2000s.
Yeah that's the cool thing about just liking what you want instead of appeasing the zeitgeist...you end up enjoying it! I like it too; and I DEFINITELY like the yellow/black colorbase.😀 Are the emoji keys editable to functions other than emojis?
The purple one is real cute and would go really well with a g203 lightsync lilac
Ok. So, with this keyboard, I learned that Logitech is replacing Unifying receivers with new ones based on "Logi Bolt" technology, which is some extension of BLE 5.0
I hate, that they didn't make a transition period when the devices could be using both as this is probably just a software limitation.
sucks, why can't they put everything to lightspeed ? i thought this was the successor to unifying :'(
@@nickiebanchou If I recall correctly the bandwidth of the gaming lightspeed accessories was too high to have multiple on one USB port. Maybe if they transition to usb 4 in the future.
@@Bkindmonk lightspeed dongles are still using usb2 tho
BLE chipsets only do BLE, if they wanted one part that does both they would need a custom radio and thats a pretty huge initial cost. There is no real neat solution to this other than a special receiver that just has two radios, which would probably make it larger than the nano size receivers. Then again, why would they sell a BLE receiver when every other wifi chipset already supports it and USB dongles are readily available.
@@Bkindmonk Thats total nonsense, the bandwidth of peripherals is laughably small. They could be running on USB 1.1 just fine.
At most, youre looking at 100kbps for mouse and keyboard each. Thats less than 0.05% of the available bandwidth on USB 2.
Not sure why he doesn't like Romer Gs. Been using a Logitech keyboard with Romer Gs for the past year and love it, pretty quiet, nice tactile feel and easy to type on
Me: I want Linus!!!
Mom: No, we have Linus at home.
Linus at home: ...
actually getting one of these deadass. i like that it's small because my current razer keyboard takes up a LOT of my desk space. i also did a quick type test on one of these at my local best buy and i like that the keys bottom out fluidly and quietly (my razer keyboard clicks about halfway before the key bottoms out which feels weird and sounds rattle-y and loud, and that's how it's always been since i got it brand new), and i like that the emoji keys can be assigned to do pretty much anything, so i won't be missing out on the shortcut buttons i like on my razer (the volume up, volume down, wheel is useful so i can carry that over into keys, and it'll be nice to have 2 other keys i can assign to other functions as well). i shall call it the keydrill (because the colour scheme matches the pokémon 'beedrill')
"The bump is small, so must be browns"
Glarses like this
Nonono for Glarses it's more like something got stuck in cherry reds lol
@@DZhang-cu2hs reds with Doritos dust inside
@@gabrielschirmbeck400 Ahh yes... The good old Doritos dust lol
I’ve had this keyboard for like 8-ish months? Honestly, I just wanted something to pair with my Cyberpunk Razor mouse
The typing experience is pretty clunky. I was just constantly making irritating errors and my typing speed was taking a pretty gnarly hit. I recently swapped out the key caps for some more tradition ones that I had laying around (for the keys I could switch) and it’s been a marked improvement since then
Seems kind of pointless to have this keyboard with normal caps, but I found the gimmick wears off very quickly
it's the key profile, they're uniform and flat which means your fingers slip easily, and hard to tell keys apart
Read elsewhere that the keys on these are actually closer together than the standard keyboards. So it's not the depth that's the problem. That pretty much breaks it for me, though, since I'm a really sloppy typer and make mistakes all day even on regular keyboards...quite unfortunate, because I really would love to have this for my iPad Pro.
i have one of these and i haven't noticed that the keys are closer together but i do know they use odd spacing for the keycaps so you really can't get any aftermarket ones right now, the space bar is shorter than average since there's a lot of modifier keys
I have little girl hands so I'd actually be okay with that lol. It sounds great! Now if we could reprogram the emoji keys and it had a split spacebar which could be programmed for backspace..
@@BB-nn9en so you actually can, with their software the emoji keys can just be rebound as macro keys. you can bind button combinations or straight up regular keys to any of the 5 emoji keys on the right
@@sir_wheat_thins Sounds good. thanks
I like this guy on camera. He's confident, doesn't fumble over his words like David sometimes, and knows what he's talking about.
Logitech finally started to listen to their consumers and put MX compatible switches on keyboard. Now, it's only a matter of time before somebody buys it, mods it into a chad keyboard and make a video of the whole process.
Yay a review of the Logitech pop mouse and keyboard
Hopefully Logitech creates a gen 2 version of this keyboard and mouse with most of the kinks worked out of it.
gen 2: Electric Boogaloo
There’s no MacOS/Windows toggle on it, it just detects a Mac or Windows device and adjusts the key mapping accordingly
Love the design. I'd choose a different colour combo though.
The only thing this keyboard is missing is an actual typewriter sound for the switches
Seen these on sale and love the look of them, the mouse is way too small for me but the keyboards just look funky and fun for a nice small wireless keyboard
I was given one by a friend as a present, I sanded off the emojis (using very fine paper and a little water) from the keys and remapped them to be function keys because I'm not 15 and i prefer them blank but its the first mechanical keyboard Ive used in forever and I quite like the feel of the sucker, minus having to relearn how to type on it hah
Haven't seen this fella around. I like him, and hope to see more of his reviews in the coming days. :)
GJ Linus and team, keep it up.
I think I've seen him reviewing the keychron q1 on this channel
@@johanesrafael9679 Yeah, he's LTT's in-house keyboard guy.
@@matasa7463 i think that'll be james, he could just listen the clicking sound and immediately tell us the serial number lol
I like that he actually talks about the bad parts without butter coating them.
So, to let people know, this seems to be aimed for the Business market. The reason I say this, is because it does away with the Unifying Receiver, and uses the new "Bolt" Receiver that boasts “Secure wireless connection, robust wireless signal, and cross-platform compatibility for mice and keyboards" which, I'm not too sure about. Regardless, if you are already in the Logitech Unifying ecosystem, this won't work, and you'll have another dongle.
I'm glad LTT understands that this is your keyboard person.
I hate when kbs and mice designed to go together don’t have the same level of click. I’ve used several sets where they were really different and I hated it.
If I have a quiet membrane keyboard, then sure, a quit mouse is fine. But if my keyboard is making satisfying mechanical clicks all the time, the mouse should feel and sound that way too.
Writing this on my POP Keys keyboard and its cool I’m loving it!
Can we please bring back integrated numpads on high end keyboards?
but this is not a high end keyboard
@@basvanderwerff2725 high price tag though
You say that as if high end keyboards didn't have integrated numpads anymore. Most of them still do.
“I never use emojis” ok grandpa 👴🏻😅
Did Plouffe just compliment himself on the headshot? lol 8:12
What a coincidence. I was watching today the emoji keyboard video by Tom Scott
Somewhere a wild Glarses stares in the void, intensely judging.
The biggest flex in this impressions is the WPM. 114 is really good, especially on a new board... damn. Going back to the keyboard, I'm a MX-Brown user, and that space bar don't sound right. I also don't understand emoji, and that colour is... uniquely awful. Overall, I'll be avoiding this. Also, is it common for folks to use emoji on PC? I've only ever seen it on mobile phones. This gotta be a huge niche, right?
people have been using emojis on PC since literally the start of the internet... of course people use emojis on PC... is there some magical other way of putting an expression in a text sentence on PC?
I find it funny that they make a silent mouse to go with a clacky keyboard
It's like they did the design work back when everyone thought cyberpunk 2077 was going to be the game of the century.
despite the bugs, it is
This would look sick in just Black and White.
It's cute. Super compact. Colorful. I mean weird colors though. Pastel pink, Pastel purple, and Yellow. Seems like Red, Blue, White, Black would have been where you should have started if you wanted mass market appeal. I guess if you were outfitting a colorful hip modern office place these would make sense. The silent mouse, the relatively quiet but still clicky browns. Small form factor. They kinda scream cubicle warrior. As does the relatively long battery life. I'd just rather buy a Keychron for like half the money and put on keycaps myself.
Are you able to type accurately on this keyboard?
I tried typing on round keycaps like that before and it was infuriating. I have typed on typewriters before and none had round buttons. Older ones tended to of course. I would be interested in this keyboard for the platform but with different keycaps.
The crying laughter emoji means "I am 40 and that is funny!" and there's never only one of it. Three of them is the bare minimum I think.
Biggest problem I would have with it is that it isn't a full keyboard. I might be in the minority but I can't stand to not have a built in number pad.
The best this about this combo is you can set it up to three different computers! You can also program the keys to be macros.
"I hate emojis, never use them."
"I use emojis when texting my girlfriend !"
hmmmmmmm
That Red/Pastel Red/Pink color combo looks mad delicious. The yellow's not too shabby either. $40 for a mouse tho?!
great keyboard, pretty brave move and well designed, hopefully we see much more of these unique styled custom keyboards.
Because I would buy one rather than these lamer corsair style ones lol
i tried these at a best buy and this keyboard honestly surprised me
why did i think that was linus
I would hope that you can shift-click the emoji buttons to do a secondary emoji, like shift-click thumbs-up for thumbs-down.
How do you type so damn fast? I am trying to learn typing but can’t pass 60wpm with 95% accuracy.
Type faster lmao
Get a good keyboard and practice
@@grammarcorrector5946 honestly yeah, there’s no real way to explain how you type faster than someone else
@@neondemon5137 i do 140wpm in english on a membrane azerty keyboard that i haven't changed in years (... on monkeytype that is, on most other websites i get 110-120wpm)... but i don't reach that speed when typing normally, it's mostly unnecessary past some point.
if i had to guess, most people with 100wpm+ have probably typed a lot starting at a young age. i don't think there's any easy trick to increase your wpm.
practice is key, but i suspect you may hit a ceiling unless you're willing to spend unreasonable amounts of time on it to catch up.
i wouldn't change to a more expensive keyboard just for the sake of increasing wpm. comfort would be the reason. same for things like changing to different layouts.
Type slower - get closer to 100% accuracy and then typing speed will rise naturally.
I removed the pop mouse from my shopping cart after I saw your video😂
Linus at home
got one for my mother at a discount, paid one for like 60 bucks, she's really happy with it, and it represents a decent value there. 100 bucks though? eeeeh I wouldn't have paid that much for that. I had hopes I could mod it a little bit but it's very difficult to do anything to that keyboard actually
There's.... am emoji button............. on the mouse.................................
_WHY?!?!_
I love Logitech products high quality; HOWEVER, this keyboard is more a $100 child's gimmick than a true highly functional keyboard for adults. I bought one and did not like it, gave it to my 13 year old niece. Watch as the keys are pressed how loose they are, how they move under the finger. I could not get used to that loose feel, and I doubt most adults will either. This is a substantial feeling keyboard, quality, and it should be to withstand holding up to children's use which is where I see it. Children's use is fine; however, this keyboard is not for most adults and reviewers should address that. Logitech should honestly market it as a thing for children.
I hate to critique in any way but it seems as though he's introducing his subjective hate for Romer-G switches into this unboxing. We get it, you hate Romer-G switches, that doesn't make them a bad choice in general. Romer-G switches are just fine, you just don't like them, make the distinction please.
No, they are not good
Idk why people hate roamer g switches so much, I've had em for years and never had an issue with feel or anything
Who let discount linus into the set?
Would this be fine for gaming? I've always wanted a wireless battery type mechanical keyboard!
I vibe with the aesthetics of all this, full stop, but I'd be lying if I said the square mx switches showing underneath the round keycaps doesn't bother me for some reason
"Yea, it's a Logitech keyboard, it's not gonna feel great." I love Logitech keyboards?? when it comes to Logitech mice & keyboards, there really is an answer for just about any use case you need. and I love the feel of just about all of the ones I have. I have also given away quite a few, and everyone has LOVED them. And I have $30 ones all the way up to the $250 dollar G915. Not everyone needs a $800 lubed custom keyboard to be happy.
I unironically love Romer-G's. I ended up buying a Das with the same switches (under a different name) when Logitech stopped pushing the Romer G keyboards out.
I also love romer-Gs lol... And i think a lot of the LMG team does too, they mentioned on the double blind keyboard video that they couldn't test romer G switches because they couldnt put them in that same keyboard they used for everything, and that they really wanted to as a bunch of people on the team loves them.
What's the other name they're under?