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  • @Counterpoints
    @Counterpoints  Рік тому +135

    I appreciate the passion of people in the comments but also don’t soil yourself in rage.
    Astartes was created by Seyama Pedersen as a fan made animation. This is Games Workshops best work since Astartes set the bar so high. I should have been clearer. Some of y’all can calm down.

    • @louiscypher4186
      @louiscypher4186 Рік тому +9

      Lol nerd rage knows no bounds.

    • @rolexmongerthethird
      @rolexmongerthethird Рік тому +9

      They are followers of khorne! Explains the rage

    • @serronserron1320
      @serronserron1320 Рік тому +3

      The fan made projects were great and they did have good show actions but they either borrowed excellent dialogue from audiobooks or they had barely any audio at all. I'm not counting the parodies which so funny were not up to the standards that we've seen GW

    • @clockworklaharl9977
      @clockworklaharl9977 11 місяців тому +10

      Thank you for correcting yourself about Astarte's being GW's... I will personally NEVER recognize it as their work because of how they stole the freedom for fans to create basically free advertisement for the franchise... Though I do appreciate how they gave Seyama a job as an animator for them... But I do regret that it had to come at the threat of getting sued if he did not bend to their will... Because I saw it as either him having to delete the literal year(s) of hard solo work at making every little detail in the Astarte's episodes... including the music and sounds... that he did for absolutely free... or the threat of having a lawsuit hung over his head while still attending college (at that time iirc)... That being said... I do love how a lot of the better animations of GW's have his artistic touch here and there... It's been a drastic change in quality since he had joined.

    • @lordrevan571
      @lordrevan571 11 місяців тому +5

      Yeah no thanks, GW is scum for what they did, educate yourself in the contracts they forced these people to sign and what would have happened had they not, might change your tone.

  • @TheRealKanye
    @TheRealKanye Рік тому +171

    The opening with the guardsmen hurts so much. Imagine being a Kriegsman, loyal and dedicated to the Emperor, striving for redemption with every breath. And due to some Necron warp-shenanigans, you no longer control your own body. And one of the angels of your God Emperor himself calls you a traitor.
    That sucks.

    • @TK4541
      @TK4541 Рік тому +26

      It was painful that they were trying to stop themselves, and that they were called heretic by the Salamander.

    • @robosoldier11
      @robosoldier11 11 місяців тому +7

      ya I felt incredible pity to the guardsmen. I realize the Salamander didn't know but I feel like he was a bit harsh on them. Like he must've realized how weird they were acting.

    • @OfLanceTheLonginus
      @OfLanceTheLonginus 9 місяців тому

      Cron's do not, and will never, fuck around

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 6 місяців тому

      Because space marines do not succumb to those shenanigans, they view those who became zombies as weak-willed and lacking in faith; thus, the salamander looked down on them.

  • @monkeygunner67000
    @monkeygunner67000 4 місяці тому +1

    Stories like this is what makes warhammer 40k compelling. It seems like for the first time, GW edited something that echoes how I pictured this universe in my head

  • @bjornthefellhanded5655
    @bjornthefellhanded5655 11 місяців тому +1

    I love how tiny the unaugmented Humans look next to the Salamander

  • @irefusetogiveupto80s65
    @irefusetogiveupto80s65 Рік тому +2

    Yes, i was expecting this

  • @Hescor_Nellse
    @Hescor_Nellse 6 місяців тому

    I wonder why he could not proceed with retrieving the geneseeds. The armor should hold long enough to pull them out of the wreck and finish the procedure. Also, is/was this whole thing some kind of simulation? The actions of the Uber Necron seem to suggest that.

  • @gsamalot
    @gsamalot Рік тому

    For the salamander burning the guardsmen it was most likely out of pity, cause he did plan too just leave them too burn alive in the ship a slow death, but instead gave them a quicker one. If there one thing about vulcan sons it's that they can take pity on those who actions are not of their own will. Plus this episode shows why the salamander are one of the most loved chapters in the 40k universe, they are one of the more kinder space marines in this dark world off grim and doom, an will go out of their way protect humans civilians no matter the cost. Like their father vulcan teach his sons to be good, hell it because of this the salamander are known for clashing with other marine chapters even the inquisitor's, my man was ready to put a bolter round through that sister if she kept on with her threats too the civilians.

  • @kirabodaniel-connell5283
    @kirabodaniel-connell5283 Рік тому +1

    Are those the same kinds from 40k Adventures?

  • @garrettandtammylauman3213
    @garrettandtammylauman3213 Рік тому

    Warhammer can thank Counterpoints 40k for me signing up for Warhammer TV. I wasn't sure if it was worth the money yet and I'm ashamed to say after watching many of your episodes I finally ponied up the money, ashamed because it only took me a couple of your awesome videos to realize it was worth buying. I also really enjoy the way you break them down and the lore your able to throw in. I believe I remember you saying you served in the military so I just wanted to thank you for your service as well as this awesome podcast. 🫡

  • @ieatmice751
    @ieatmice751 Рік тому +363

    What I like about the destroyers section is that when the palatine sister says “you are a cancer upon the Galaxy, I despise you!” She’s basically speaking for both of them. The necrons see organic life but especially humans as vermin infesting their tombworlds that need to be exterminated

    • @XD-sc4ix
      @XD-sc4ix Рік тому +27

      If only the destroyer responded back pointing out the irony of it

    • @erasalams61
      @erasalams61 Рік тому +6

      Thats the whole point he just came close face to face as she spoke

    • @berilsevvalbekret772
      @berilsevvalbekret772 Рік тому +2

      Not all necrons. Destroyers specifically.

    • @kinosaga21
      @kinosaga21 Рік тому +1

      The Necron destroyers are not wrong

  • @pistol0grip0pump
    @pistol0grip0pump Рік тому +538

    12 minutes in and I'm so happy to see GW has stepped things up, especially showing the human aspect of everything, and the kindness of the Salamanders towards civilians.

    • @brokenhalo2001
      @brokenhalo2001 Рік тому +10

      Took them long enough right. But after 3 years there still is not much animation content, considering they sold us the idea of WH+being animations on the regularr there is about a days worth.

    • @bryan...5047
      @bryan...5047 Рік тому +11

      @penileymajorey7174Syama Pederson (singular creator of Astartes) probably have some pointers in these animations since GW has him now and silent as all hell still

    • @domokun845
      @domokun845 Рік тому +8

      Guessing they are having Syama work in a consulting role across multiple projects. That's the best way to bring the quality up.

    • @bryan...5047
      @bryan...5047 Рік тому +6

      @@domokun845 Yep its probably the best way, but I hope he still does his own work for Astartes and at least have a say still.

    • @brokenhalo2001
      @brokenhalo2001 Рік тому

      @penileymajorey7174 Nope its made by M2 Animations. People said the same things about Chaos Gate trailer and that was Zenfri. Blur dow1 Plastic Wax dow2, all diff studios to spread the load. Its been 3 years im starting to think the rumours of alot of these animators quitting within the first year are true. 3 years for so little content. But GW has this 5 year NDA after your leave the company so we will not know wtf has been happening.

  • @lolbitbot4791
    @lolbitbot4791 Рік тому +367

    The salamander casually telling the human children he has 3 lungs and two hearts is funny af

    • @jumi9342
      @jumi9342 Рік тому +59

      And since he has only one heart and two lungs left he appears more human

    • @cryptosguns
      @cryptosguns Рік тому +30

      @@jumi9342 There's something beautifully poetic about this that naturally ties in with his empathy and care for normal humans

    • @waragainstmyself1159
      @waragainstmyself1159 11 місяців тому +14

      Well he is a superhero if you think about it.. plus not everyone makes it through the process so he is rare. Very rare.

    • @pplr1
      @pplr1 11 місяців тому +2

      Also that he tried to explain a bit technically before resorting to that it hurt a bit.

  • @smolpp585
    @smolpp585 Рік тому +185

    M2 Animation the GOAT! for people who don't know, these guys did the Kill Team cinematic, Armouring of a Space Marine cinematic, Horus Heresy cinematic, 9th and 10th edition cinematics and also the Age of Sigmar cinematic. Hope GW keeps doing stuff with them because they've done a good job so far.

    • @iconicusensign9624
      @iconicusensign9624 Рік тому +14

      I also realized they also made the animations for the lego movies and even lego animated series.
      Wow. How far they really progressed over the years and im glad they are doing animations for us 40k fans.
      I hope they stick around and GW hires more animation studios or hell maybe genndy tartakovsky.

    • @alexander33411
      @alexander33411 7 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely agree. These guys are crazy good

  • @samfish2550
    @samfish2550 Рік тому +190

    I actually really like the salamanders first interaction with the survivors. They are genuinely warm and kind but also still feel just distanced enough from humanity to still sell him as a space marine.

    • @WitcherGerd
      @WitcherGerd Рік тому +11

      Indeed, it could also be said that the fact his additional organs (3rd lung and 2nd heart) were disabled also makes him more human

    • @coolgamers2794
      @coolgamers2794 Рік тому

      Legion of the Damn is way better.

    • @MJRSA9404
      @MJRSA9404 Рік тому +1

      ​@coolgamers2794 ah yes. Not to be mistaken for the Legion of the Ocean

    • @MJRSA9404
      @MJRSA9404 Рік тому +1

      ​@@coolgamers2794 also, pretty irrelevant comment

    • @samfish2550
      @samfish2550 Рік тому

      @@coolgamers2794 like... Ok.... That's your take and I mean they do have a cool mystery element but like.... We's like our green fire boys. They have a bit more personality and I at least prefer the dragon knight look over the ghost rider but space marine look.

  • @doublep1980
    @doublep1980 Рік тому +105

    Sororitas to Necron: "You´re a cancer..."
    Necron: "You didn´t just say that?!"

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Рік тому +36

      She gave the Necron a PTSD flashback to a being a fleshy cancer patient like the rest of his race. XD

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +8

      @@ICECAPPEDSKY she won tbh 😂 roasted tf outta that necron

    • @Technovore88
      @Technovore88 Рік тому +6

      @@LewisB3217 If that's what winning looks like , I'd hate to see what you call losing.

    • @serronserron1320
      @serronserron1320 Рік тому +1

      @@Technovore88 Go back to the opening sequence of the first episode. Mind you those bodies can be reanimated for more experiments again and again and again.

    • @a8-94stalker
      @a8-94stalker 6 місяців тому

      Necron: 01001110 01101111 00100000 01010101

  • @RiverBottomBoys.
    @RiverBottomBoys. Рік тому +451

    IMO, the salamanders are the best Chapter. Unwavering loyalty to humanity makes them some of the ONLY good guys in the 41st millennium.

    • @blueknight5754
      @blueknight5754 Рік тому +12

      I paint them often…good stuff.

    • @horsearcher6852
      @horsearcher6852 Рік тому +27

      until you are xenos XD

    • @simenskeide5634
      @simenskeide5634 Рік тому +33

      There is the Lamenters.

    • @standanddeliver2925
      @standanddeliver2925 Рік тому +15

      Space wolves, raven guard, many blood angels, ultramarines.

    • @hollow8136
      @hollow8136 Рік тому +14

      I'm going to be a bit pedantic here, but the only "Legions" in the 41st Millennium are the Chaos ones. The Salamanders are a First Founding "Chapter" not a Legion, specifically because the Imperium didn't want those anymore. Current day Chapter share some elements with their 30k counterparts, but they are essentially different entities in a lot of ways.
      Like the Dark Angels Chaper shares the name with the Dark Angels Legion. But is a VERY different beast with a different aesthetic, mentality, and culture far flung from what the Lion used to lead.

  • @tilted_axis9819
    @tilted_axis9819 Рік тому +93

    Really goes to show how durable an astartes is when he talks about multiple organs failing like it’s just a headache

    • @edgarcarlylesaraga96
      @edgarcarlylesaraga96 11 місяців тому +2

      True, although that crash shouldn't have killed the other salamanders.. vulkan's sons are durable as hell, and they have their power armor on.. that crash should have caused minimum injuries to them..

  • @kkpratt
    @kkpratt Рік тому +281

    I think Sakan's execution of the final Guardsman in the opening was an act of mercy. Showing the Salamanders' empathy and care for humans.

    • @Baboon-nk4wq
      @Baboon-nk4wq Рік тому +29

      Maybe, but I'm not sure. He had a knife and a bolter, but instead set him on fire.

    • @Towermonkey-sf4md
      @Towermonkey-sf4md Рік тому +32

      Partially yes it could assumed that’s the case but with the statement of “what treachery is this, or is this madness?” He would’ve assumed the guardsman to be a traitor plus he was unable to retrieve the gene seed from his brothers which would result in anger and Sakan’s instinct would to enact vengeance for this final slight against his brothers honor by dealing with the man he saw as a traitor in the manner the salamanders deal with all of man’s enemies, with fire.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Рік тому +14

      @@Baboon-nk4wqfire is a fitting way to finish him. Cleansing flame, wash away the xeno infection by burning him away. Could be seen as the ideal way.

    • @KimKarniol
      @KimKarniol Рік тому +15

      @@Towermonkey-sf4md I think it was more mercy as he was more clued in to what afflicted the Guardsmen as he left when the Krieger managed to squeeze out the words saying he was not in control. A mix of an act of mercy to a Guardsman that was genuinely incapable of stopping himself from attacking the Salamander.
      Initial confusion leading into frustration and anger over a belief that his brothers' legacies were forever lost to the cowardice of weak-willed Guardsmen deserters that quickly simmered and became more sympathetic after learning what it was, deciding instead to grant a faster death. A slow roast to rising flames in a wreck is a worse way to go than a promethium flamethrower to the face, which would be comparably instant. He granted the Emperor's mercy and a release to a still ever-loyal soul trapped within a body being forced to serve Xenos machinations.

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Рік тому +4

      He set him on fire that's still a painful way to die

  • @adamg4336
    @adamg4336 Рік тому +50

    She had some balls to chat shit directly to a salamander

  • @Nostroman_Praetor
    @Nostroman_Praetor Рік тому +91

    Quick correction: I don't think Sa'kan is a sergent. I don't remember it being stated during the episode and its very possible he just isn't a sergent.

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Рік тому +1

      Yea, he doesn't have any markings either

    • @brianwalsh1339
      @brianwalsh1339 Рік тому +25

      So I just went on a bit of a search to back this up, and yeah you’re correct.
      However, unlike a chapter like the ultramarines, the only difference between a salamanders line marine and a salamanders sergeant is… a golden skull on the sergeant’s helmet.
      Which is a bit mildly infuriating.

    • @someidiotnamedtricks6397
      @someidiotnamedtricks6397 Рік тому

      @@brianwalsh1339 you would be surprised how many chapters barely show the difference lol

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +26

      I misremembered “brother” as “sergeant” when I was scripting unfortunately

    • @Nostroman_Praetor
      @Nostroman_Praetor Рік тому +15

      @@Counterpoints Honestly thats okay since he immedately follows his introduction by namedropping an Ultramarine Sergent, so its understandable where you might have fumbled

  • @RaixsOreh
    @RaixsOreh Рік тому +112

    13:47 Note: That is a palatine, not a Sister Superior. Palatines are the Equivalent to Lieutenants in the Sororitas. Sister Superiors lead a single squad Palatines are second in command to Canonesses who lead numerous squads

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +21

      How could you tell?

    • @RaixsOreh
      @RaixsOreh Рік тому +43

      @@Counterpoints the Halo on her Power Pack on her back. The Palatine Model on the table top is the only model with that style of halo (plus other armor details that indicate it's a Palatine Armor). it's not a big deal, unless you've looked at numerous sororitas models you wouldn't notice it.
      Edit: also their arsenal helps too. Palatines only have a Rosarius (the necklace she's holding), and a plasma pistol. Sister Superiors usually have bolters like her squad or another specialized gun alongside a melee weapon. Sister Danica in the show is a Sister Superior, she had a power sword in the 9th ed trailer and her Armor has the Inquisitorial letter "i" on her neck armor

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +3

      @@RaixsOreh yeah the plasma pistol ladies lack of a melee weapon gives her away, they’re kinda like chaplains in my eyes, good eyes

    • @Nutellafuerst
      @Nutellafuerst Рік тому +4

      ​@@LewisB3217Palatines have power swords as their standard melee weapon, actually.

    • @Pihnes
      @Pihnes Рік тому +2

      Also, the holy relic she's carrying in her left hand.@@Counterpoints

  • @Foffer1337
    @Foffer1337 Рік тому +49

    I love how fast Sa'kan moves when the Deathmark fires at him. I think its one of the first times since Astartes, Iv ever seen a space marine sprint like they are supposed to.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +6

      Yeah it was super cool, he took like 2 steps and was in cover 20 feet away, they are supposed to like leap-run at super high speeds

    • @vincentprime740
      @vincentprime740 Рік тому +5

      If you go watch death of hope trailer u will be amazed lol

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 6 місяців тому

      The ultramarine Sgt. Also moved very fast when he dodged an incoming Lazer fire in the 2nd episode.

  • @lokket9995
    @lokket9995 Рік тому +65

    Its a rare sight for angel to show his human features to a human. I hope we get to see a Lamenter one day.

    • @rm06c
      @rm06c Рік тому +8

      They'll use crayons to draw and animate the Lamenters 😭

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +5

      I think that’s why he’s doing it, to show he was/is human instead of some walking suit of armor that’s 7 feet tall, pretty cool detail, I don’t think other chapters would do that in a combat zone at least, the mission comes first generally

    • @coolgamers2794
      @coolgamers2794 Рік тому

      Legion of the Damned Chapter is far more better.

    • @rivenarchon333
      @rivenarchon333 Рік тому

      ​@@LewisB3217Maybe, but there are a lot of SM models without helmets. I think they would, but for other reasons, not to put the people at ease.

    • @MyFaithShines
      @MyFaithShines Рік тому

      U need to play Space Marine

  • @elijahlovejoy5438
    @elijahlovejoy5438 Рік тому +60

    Just a note for the end; "Astartes" isnt really a GW series. The credit goes to Syama Pedersen who made the whole thing himself.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +16

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

    • @benjamintherogue2421
      @benjamintherogue2421 Рік тому +11

      And killed by GW.

    • @tiagojohannes5920
      @tiagojohannes5920 Рік тому +4

      @@benjamintherogue2421the hours it took to make its especially. . . Atleast like 700 since he did it alone

  • @reynard4823
    @reynard4823 Рік тому +25

    In the words of the crazy plane lady regarding that female guardsman "THAT MOFO ISNT REAL"

  • @Ultra_Sauce
    @Ultra_Sauce Рік тому +90

    Wish we can eventually get something this good for the Crimson Fists

    • @user-br4qp4pw2o
      @user-br4qp4pw2o Рік тому +4

      You have carried your burdon. Now its time to carry you
      (not sure if its correct)

  • @dawidkaczmarek8639
    @dawidkaczmarek8639 Рік тому +22

    Thank heavens they hired blessed by the Emperor astartes guy. Dude DELIVERS

  • @MrYodaSusej
    @MrYodaSusej Рік тому +21

    The scene with the Salamander Sergeant where he shows that he is still human despite being basically a living god as a space marine is amazing. Dont know if anyone else caught this but since one of his hearts has failed along with one of his lungs, he now has just one heart and two lungs like every other "normal human" would have. Just a great overall scene for me. got me to feel some emotion and care about a character that at this point in the show I hardly know.

  • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
    @MasterChiefNumberOnE Рік тому +34

    I hope that Space Marine 3 will be about fighting the Necrons. Battles like this, where even saving a few civilians feels like a victory and even fighting normal Necron warriors is a challenge.... I would be on fire for the game right away!

    • @ICECAPPEDSKY
      @ICECAPPEDSKY Рік тому +4

      That might be a DLC for SM2

    • @bruticus1496
      @bruticus1496 Рік тому +1

      I can see that as a dark souls type game

    • @spartanx9293
      @spartanx9293 Рік тому +1

      Or space Marine 2 I have a feeling fighting tyranids is going to get rather samey after a while

    • @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen
      @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Рік тому +3

      Space marine is a horde shooter through and through, not sure the Necrons would provide the type of gameplay the series is going for. It's a cool idea sure, but the mechanics would have to be altered to cater to it and it's better off being its own thing.

    • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
      @MasterChiefNumberOnE Рік тому +4

      ​@@AParticularlyConcernedCitizen I totally agree, but doesn't the horde aspect stop as soon as the Chaos Space Marines show up? At least that was the case in Space Marine 1, where you weren't fighting hordes of Orks then, but mostly just little groups of Chaos Space Marines (I think the largest number was 10 at a time, but never more than 10 if I remember correctly?). I don't know what it will be like with the Thousand Sons once they show up, but I bet...it will be just like Space Marine 1. AND Rubic Marines aren't any different than Necron-Warriors: Both are soulless robots XD

  • @Joni_Tarvainen
    @Joni_Tarvainen Рік тому +14

    I think it's so beautiful small detail, but when Sak'an speaks to the kids his humanity is mirrored with his injuries. He has one heart and two lungs, just like the ones he protects.

  • @thecowcanon
    @thecowcanon Рік тому +13

    Games workshop has nothing to do with Astartes, but I do agree that this is great and just what we all want/need!

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @russellblaik3414
    @russellblaik3414 Рік тому +31

    The dark skin and red eyes is not from the gene-seed of Vulkan but from the home world of the salamanders Nocturne's radiation. Too many people confuse this fact but Vulkan only changed that way after growing up on the planet, the locals of that planet are all that way from birth.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +6

      I’ve read opposite but I’ll research to make sure. Even in the episode they said it’s part of his genetic ascension

    • @russellblaik3414
      @russellblaik3414 Рік тому +7

      @@Counterpoints Its been more established in the 30k lore then the 40k lore but then again the change to the salamander chapter only happened from the 5th edition space marine codex. Before that the chapter was the same as other space marines with only mentions of the local populace of Nocturne being this way.
      It is possible that I have mistaken fan a theory to explain how the people of nocturne survived as they are constantly bombarded by the same solar radiation
      The statement in the episode is more likely an overall excuse to hide that it is a mutation from the greater Imperium given how they treat mutants

    • @rivenarchon333
      @rivenarchon333 Рік тому

      ​@@russellblaik3414Or a retcon.
      What I don't understand is how a single planet can produce an entire chapter.

    • @russellblaik3414
      @russellblaik3414 Рік тому +4

      @@rivenarchon333 The chapter is made over time with there home world planet by keeping replacement troops in reserve over time. most recruits are left on the planet still undergoing the procedure to become a space marine. As a space marine is near immortal and the chapter not being able to go over 1000 marines at one time a single planet can easily support it with recruits, if there is no possible way for the planet to have enough recruits from a single world then chapters can get there recruits from other systems. This is seen as a great honor and all fleet based chapters recruit in this way

    • @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen
      @AParticularlyConcernedCitizen Рік тому +2

      @@rivenarchon333 Planets house billions of people, what is strange about them having enough to provide a thousand guys. You know there's tens of thousands of neophytes and aspirants just hanging out waiting to be quietly recruited in a way that makes it look like they're totally not going over the limit. A single town could provide an entire chapter of space marines.

  • @MasterChiefNumberOnE
    @MasterChiefNumberOnE 11 місяців тому +4

    I love how the scene with the two Necron warriors feels so much like Terminator. You could just use two T-800s instead of the warriors and a resistance fighter instead of the guardsman and it would fit perfectly, just like you can do the opening scenes of the Terminator movies with Necron warriors instead of Skynet's robots.

  • @Datrandomasianguy
    @Datrandomasianguy Рік тому +10

    Finally gw did something right

  • @JO-vj5lq
    @JO-vj5lq 11 місяців тому +3

    This episode was just about exactly what I needed to see to from them… I wasn’t a fan of the little micro chapter vibes of epidode 1.. I know episode 2 did have a few chapters but it still felt much less intrusive… and it was very nice to see a sister of battle that I didn’t want to pump full of my gene seed…well , at least it wasn’t my first thought..

  • @ucfj
    @ucfj Рік тому +6

    Wait wait wait. Astartes wasn't created by games workshop. Assign credit where it's due

    • @chairmanchips
      @chairmanchips Рік тому

      i thought it was the work of sodaz tbh .

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @pistol0grip0pump
    @pistol0grip0pump Рік тому +7

    Oooh! I've been looking forwards to this!
    Also : Hawkins & Company!
    It's so awesome to see real hand crafted leatherwork goods, there's too much Chinesium wank products everywhere.

  • @jbp9653
    @jbp9653 Рік тому +8

    Seeing a Salamander live up to their name is always a pleasure. Happy that the animation is great as well

  • @MrNuclearturtle
    @MrNuclearturtle Рік тому +5

    Animation is fantastic, audio mixing is superb and is exactly the kind of show that would get newcomers in….and it’s on a subpar service that can’t even play on a fucking tv to witness this….I know GW wants a firm grasp on their ip, but not being on a mainstream streaming service and no real support for bigger tvs completely undermines this show and would’ve been the flagship port of call for newcomers.

  • @horsearcher6852
    @horsearcher6852 Рік тому +4

    love Sa'kan very much in this series

  • @artilyon
    @artilyon Рік тому +2

    I love that hes shown to have some asian feature maybe from the place they recuited him from, and the gene seed just turned him onyx as it should be

  • @TheFuel89
    @TheFuel89 Рік тому +4

    Not gonna lie this kind of makes me want to pay for warhammer+.

  • @stompyrobotguy4376
    @stompyrobotguy4376 Рік тому +5

    It took a couple years, but we're finally here, getting some QUALITY content. I'm going to actually sub to W+ when this series is over, so I can binge it.

  • @blueknight5754
    @blueknight5754 Рік тому +5

    I 100 percent agree with your assessment. Games FINALLY put it all together! Thank you for the BEST explanation of all of these episodes. I come here first for episode breakdowns.

  • @Jason11190
    @Jason11190 10 місяців тому +2

    I love the Salamanders so much. They're every bit as badass as any of the other Chapters, but they're one of the very few Imperium facets that embodies the humanity they're supposed to be part of. And in a universe as dark and unforgiving as 40k, the compassion that the Salamanders show is genuinely beautiful.

  • @jamilvints
    @jamilvints Рік тому +5

    This..this is worthy of a subscription for GW. Cant wait till more episodes and i hope this quality keeps up.

  • @tirsolouisegaccion4419
    @tirsolouisegaccion4419 Рік тому +5

    I really have a curiosity on why do the Space Marines remove their helmets during battle if this is how they work? Their helmets are OP af.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +3

      It’s just for narrative so you can see their expressions it’s silly but a lot of people empathize with a face more than a helmet.

    • @LewisB3217
      @LewisB3217 Рік тому +3

      This time I think it’s to show the actual humans that the Astartes was once / is human, these people are in a combat zone with robots that are controlling people, he wanted to calm them down a bit

    • @domokun845
      @domokun845 Рік тому +1

      Probably only a Salamander and a few other chapters would do this. They are much more humane and will go to great lengths to save and empathize with civilians.
      A Charcarodon or a Black Raven, not so much

  • @14megasxlr
    @14megasxlr Рік тому +1

    "Astartes" is NOT GW's work. They just inspired/scapled it.
    I know you know, but I just wanna remind everyone.

  • @TheFrigintrees
    @TheFrigintrees Рік тому +1

    GW completely pulled Warhammer TV from all of Canada or else I would have watched this.....
    Any other Canadians have experience using VPN's to access warhammer tv? Asking for a friend.

  • @lordcorporal4247
    @lordcorporal4247 11 місяців тому +1

    holy ish i NEEDED some nice salamanders in my life what an emotional scene 10:56 when he took off his helmet i was like myyyyyyyyy bromander.
    and who says you cant do "woke stuff" properly. I will take a salamander saying "i realize my countenance suggests a malign aspect, but it is a legacy of my genetic ascension, not a sign of corruption.... i understand you suffered greatly and that my appearance insights unease in mortals, but im on your side."" ""i didnt know angels could bleed"
    this wink at being different, but we should all love each other - is a proper caring and emotional message that i will take ANY DAY over some mindless corporate esg bs race/gender switching in the next disney movie.

  • @MrUdarr
    @MrUdarr Рік тому +3

    Great summary keept it up !
    also Necrons are my first Army , i absolutely love how they are made in this 2 Episodes. i adore Illuminor Szeras !

    • @justsomeguyinnc473
      @justsomeguyinnc473 Рік тому +1

      I really dug the scene in Ep.1 when Szeras activates the Deathmark, and the dialog between them! I've watched that scene several times...

  • @Tfbtrav
    @Tfbtrav Рік тому +3

    I think pariah nexus is horribly underrated. I show it to friends who have no understanding of WH and they love it. If the animation budget was higher, this would rival with some of the top 3d animated shows and films of all time. I think we should all take time to appreciate the studios hard work on this series, it's well deserved!

  • @JosephZhou-p1q
    @JosephZhou-p1q Рік тому +1

    one heart failed and one lung collapsed, hmmmm I think it kinda makes Sa'kan more like a "human" now?🤨 guess it implies that the empathetic connection that Salamanders share with all normal humans

  • @juhel5531
    @juhel5531 Рік тому +1

    Woman in power armor with intense mental training preparing her and allowing her to resist a mind control beacon calling civvies that can't do what she herself would not be able to do in the same situation "unworthy."
    Huh?

  • @windrider970
    @windrider970 Рік тому +2

    great commentary!
    I wonder what happened to the guy that made Astartes. I kinda expected part 2 to drop by now, but seems like GW has him locked up in the dungeons while other teams are making their animations.

  • @juag85
    @juag85 Рік тому +1

    Astartes wasn't GWs creation FYI. We should never forget that. But yes this latest release has been awesome so far.

  • @communistdoggo2929
    @communistdoggo2929 Рік тому +1

    GW didn't make Astartes. It was entirely fanmade and then it was GW that stopped the production of it

  • @dougjones3305
    @dougjones3305 8 місяців тому +1

    This is the best representation of salamanders and just lore I have seen so far. This show is really, really great.

  • @pierbelizaire1495
    @pierbelizaire1495 9 місяців тому +1

    If the imperium ever crossess into our universe and wants to conquer earth, i hope we get salamanders 🤞🤞

  • @Bhargos
    @Bhargos Рік тому +1

    The necron just need a major redesign to not look like cartoony skeletons.
    Also, Sakan deez nuts!

  • @goldenkurlz
    @goldenkurlz Рік тому +8

    My only complaint is there are so many "ooo look how awesome space marines are!" type of shots whereas astartes is driving narrative with every second. We get it, GW, your minis and models are dope, that's why we watch, why we buy. But story is important also. However, major props to the scene transition between the canoness dying and the sgt standing over her fallen corpse.

  • @sickbozo8152
    @sickbozo8152 Рік тому +3

    GW didnt make astartes, they hired the guy that did it by himself over several years

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @king.jarjerk4201
    @king.jarjerk4201 11 місяців тому +2

    Your channel got me to just dive head first into Warhammer lore and I'm not sure if I appreciate, or despise you for it.

  • @seamuspautz7532
    @seamuspautz7532 Рік тому +2

    Pariah Nexus. Infernus Marines. Firestorm Assault Force. It is a GOOD time to be a Son of Nocturne

  • @bryantherocker
    @bryantherocker Рік тому +1

    A Coal Black Skin Giant Asian with Red Eyes is Badass ...

  • @fadedtiger3181
    @fadedtiger3181 Рік тому +1

    Games Workshop did not make Astartes. Astartes was a sepaarate project that they co opted through legal force.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @wiggy5209
    @wiggy5209 Рік тому +1

    Astartes was not one of GW's projects ..it was done by ONE man without GWs influence ..let's not insult him by suggesting otherwise ..

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @valentinvozaf647
    @valentinvozaf647 Рік тому +3

    I watched this a few hours before you released this video and i have to say i loved this episode. When the Destroyer was leaning over the impaled sister it looked to me as if he was mirroring her own words ´´you are a cancer to this galaxy´´ ´´I despise you´´.

  • @cgavin1
    @cgavin1 11 місяців тому +1

    "Are you here to save us?"
    ....
    "What are your names little ones?"
    Savage.

  • @tovarco
    @tovarco 7 місяців тому +1

    The detail of the white part of the eye at 20:41.....amazing.

  • @robluxipiech4033
    @robluxipiech4033 4 місяці тому +1

    i miss the old helmets. these arent my space marines :( . i know i know, old bear, old man, things change.
    its like adding something to the cross, for the first time ever in a 40k post do i say, holy be thy name and not mean the emperor haha. u know what i mean XD . sorry for the lengthy post, just an old bear feeling nostalgic, u kids and new guys do what you wanna do, i still have my memories, im glad you found a new way to play, please support games workshop, even if it means a stern letter, love yall, God bless and protect you, as the emperor fictionally does too ! :) XOXO to my fellow hobbyist, its tough out there these days and i want you to know you are loved ! even from afar. my Nerd ass sure could use it sometimes so! heres my contribution. take great care ( mostly ) brothers. take care of each other. we are often all we got.

  • @andypae
    @andypae Рік тому +2

    Sally: "Are you going to put me into a self-defence situation?"

  • @tacticool_weeb8450
    @tacticool_weeb8450 11 місяців тому +1

    There are astartes… and then there are salamanders, there is difference

  • @muhammadbogdan6128
    @muhammadbogdan6128 Рік тому +1

    11:31 Yo I know I'm black. Doesn't mean I'm a punk.

  • @jonathanielweaks1232
    @jonathanielweaks1232 Рік тому +1

    Just one thing. Astartes wasn't originally produced by Games Workshop.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @ShadowlessFist
    @ShadowlessFist 11 місяців тому +1

    The thing to remember about Space Marines, is that the primary way they defend Humanity is to KILL its enemies, not stand between enemy weapons fire and human beings. This is also what makes Salamanders different to most of their cousins. Because they still interact with their people on Nocturne, they are not so far removed from Humanity that they lack empathy for their short, fragile lives. To be so close to them reminds Salamanders what they fight for.

  • @mattmeyer8535
    @mattmeyer8535 Рік тому +1

    Hol up, quick note the Astartes mini-series was done by one dude. Not games workshop they were the ones who took it off UA-cam.

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +1

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @Egoliftdaily
    @Egoliftdaily 11 місяців тому +1

    Patrick Stewart is a salamander. Cool.

  • @noblechaos8142
    @noblechaos8142 Рік тому +1

    Hey don’t give GW credit for Astartes they didn’t make it they gave the creator the choice of joining them or getting sued

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @chyledebuser
    @chyledebuser Рік тому +1

    All together now...
    Sa'kan deeze

  • @roman_tyrant
    @roman_tyrant Рік тому +1

    18:32 Just absolutely blows me away how FAST astartes actually can move in power arrmour. By the Emperor is awesome.

  • @Irishman1861
    @Irishman1861 Рік тому +1

    Remember Astartes was not done by GW but was a fan piece first before the threatened with join or be sued into oblivion. but agreed this is awesome.

  • @LordNayAstral
    @LordNayAstral 7 місяців тому +1

    u make a very nice work bro ! but i'm french and youtube's translate is not perfect :)
    and one QUESTION as an fervent warrior of the 40k universe and in spirit space marines !
    henri cavill is really going to make an movie or serie with amazon on this world

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  7 місяців тому +1

      Magnifique! Je parles un petit peu de Francais parceque je vivais en Belgique.

    • @LordNayAstral
      @LordNayAstral 7 місяців тому

      ahaha
      if its just a little i can talk in "my" english :) but i'm in hard research since few years on all hq cinematic/movies/series on this 40k world and since only few years it wake up but there is actually always not enough on it
      Then a big thanks to you my men !
      and ur face when there is a "strong" scene lol is so funny :) i hope we'll can talk in french or english soon of this amazing universe with a inimaginable potential

  • @AdeptusChaoticus
    @AdeptusChaoticus Рік тому +1

    Is the Salamander a Primaris marine? I’m very new to the lore.

  • @arcdecibel9986
    @arcdecibel9986 Рік тому +1

    It is HERESY that only two episodes of this are out! I want to see the rest of it, and the Adeptus Mechanicus had better be there to salvage some of this Necron tech.

  • @MARStheFORSAKEN
    @MARStheFORSAKEN Рік тому +1

    GW didnt make the astartes i think it was actually just ONE singulair fan but from the rumer they did bring him on to work for warhammer plus

    • @Counterpoints
      @Counterpoints  Рік тому +1

      I just meant to say this is their best work since Astartes release, not trying to imply they created it.

  • @laszgaming4982
    @laszgaming4982 Рік тому +1

    Comment for the comment gods

  • @lordcorporal4247
    @lordcorporal4247 11 місяців тому +1

    " are you here to save us?"
    .... doesnt answer.
    man i always knew salamanders were cool but nothing really pushed me towards them. seeing a space marine have an actual tear form in his eyes is something i didnt know i needed
    fuck yes i love this series so far
    🤟

  • @rafaelpolissperandio4222
    @rafaelpolissperandio4222 Рік тому +1

    I love how the guardsman and the Marine say Unworthy together....

  • @joenelson4235
    @joenelson4235 11 місяців тому +1

    Yeah you've convinced me I didn't like episode 1 but thought I'd give it a chance here and you've changed my mind the combat is better an the lore is spot on.

  • @themainman2827
    @themainman2827 11 місяців тому +1

    Danica is gorgeous 😍

  • @epsilon-1138
    @epsilon-1138 Рік тому +1

    Space marines are well aware of necron weaponry that they chose to evade than tanking it and their reaction speed is no joke for a warrior that large

  • @marcanderson6034
    @marcanderson6034 Рік тому +1

    Ok. Okokokokok. So…… the SPEED of the marine! They caught it!!!!!! Holy crap that actually had me enthralled

  • @waragainstmyself1159
    @waragainstmyself1159 Рік тому +2

    He respected the shit out of that sister of battle

  • @Demos_Jeff
    @Demos_Jeff 11 місяців тому +1

    I really like the rock like sound that Sa’khans armor makes when he pats his chest. Ceramite being more of a rock like texture instead of the loud metallic sound makes a lot more sense when it comes to legions like the raven guard and alpha legion being sneaky bois.

  • @secrom1014
    @secrom1014 Рік тому +1

    12:49 "Sa'Kan deez"

  • @dayastello630
    @dayastello630 Рік тому +1

    I genuinely love how the Sergeant steps infront of the sister almost scoffing "unworthy" back at the sister or battle, implying to me that no one is unworthy of the emperor and his angels protection, the imperium of man doesnt deserve the salamanders and the only other chapter i can see responding this way is the lamenters. genuinely what we hope the soldiers of tomorrow act as protectors of humanity

  • @superduperhoopertrooper116
    @superduperhoopertrooper116 Рік тому

    When the Kreig gaurdsman
    *ahem*
    KREIG GAURDSMAN
    Start BEGGING
    You should start worrying Immediately

  • @ceroth8716
    @ceroth8716 11 місяців тому

    i know im childish but.... SUCCON???? reallly???? like SUCCON deese nuts.... bra why is that his name... its like the meanest 40k bait name xd

  • @exanhighlander6236
    @exanhighlander6236 11 місяців тому +1

    With this amount of production quality, content and detail. GW take my money! Well done!