I have a 1980 182Q with a port and polished IO550D-330HP. It is a beast on 29” mains. I sold a TBM 850 and found the joy of flying again. Love Skywagon University!
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Is that a Ken Tunnell (LyCon) engine? The formula for hp is torqueXrpm/5252=hp. The rule of thumb for max torque is about a ft.pound of torque per cubic inch. I have a buddy with a LyCon io-550 which makes 607 lb.ft. at 2700 rpm which is about 338 hp. That's 1.1 pound of torque per ci. Tunnell pulled the dyno sheet on it for me.
I love the geekiness! Two amazing restorations! The level of detail, and quite frankly luxury, in the 180 are mouth-watering! I'm guessing the 182 was not refurbished by the same company that did the 180? It's hard not to fantasize about a 182 that might be given the same treatment (and funding)!🤩
That 180? Yes please, someone has spent a lot of time, love and money on that. Both are cracking aircraft though - I like Cessnas✌️👍😊 Another great video - alway a pleasure and a school day👍✌️💜😊
That 180 is my dream plane. That is if I can't have an Ag Truck which is basically the same wing and tail on a different fuselage, then yeah, this beauty. What a sweet plane. Edit (20 min mk): You're showing the cockpit of the 180. MEIN GOTT!! What an airplane!! That control panel is so clean and well built! And the lighting! Seats! Interior appointments! Man O Man! Thank you so much for showing this off! Made my day!
@@skywagonuniversity5023 My accountant will probably string me up just for asking, but what are we looking at for a base price on the 180? Or should I choose another avenue to communicate?
@@sski I do not normally mention prices on the videos but since these are so modified and upgraded, everyone is going to want to know so I did mention them. Contact me on or on text at 530 306 4648 for info. They are on my website at Skywagons.com as well. The 180 is $399,000.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thank you, Mark! Very much appreciated. $400 G's for the 180? I expected it to be at least twice that! Amazing! I have to look at a couple things but I will contact you toward the end of the week. Hopefully I won't be too late. Thank you again for your response!
A great video. I have a 1962 182E with a O-400U. I always thought it was speedy i now know that it has 230 HP at 2400. I looked into the John Jewell stc. I disregarded it due to the rpm limitation in cruise. But the 230 full hp at 2400 makes me smile. I totally agree on the upgrades and the ad ons. I’m pretty much equal on my purchase price to my avionics upgrades. I love it 162 mph at 13 gph is pretty nice.
Yup, it was installed under the Texas Skyways STC. I can’t claim the credit for it, it was in it when I purchased it. It’s a beautiful example of a 62 it was painted with the blue, black and gold restart paint scheme. Maybe some day i’ll get a chance to drop in and show it off ;) It will be in oshkosh with the Cessna mass arrival crew this year
Incredible airplanes Mark! Those are definitely 2 examples of true sky "wagons". Not as expensive as I thought. Especially when compared to Carbon cubs for what they are and what they can do .
I left California in 86 and moved to Portland Or.....at southwest skyways at TOA was a '79 182 with 2200 TT and a factory reman engine with 100 hours...I didn't have the 25,600 at the time to buy it at the time...still kicking myself over it
Oh yes. There are so many of those. Remember though that if you had bought it in 1986 you would have had 38 years of ownership, taxes, hangarage, annual, repairs, engine overhauls, paint, radio upgrades and would be in it $230,000 by now.
I greatly enjoy all your videos Mark. In the immortal words of Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour, I’m a “earthbound misfit,” but I live vicariously through UA-cam and pilots such as yourself. Thanks.
Have you ever put a diesel engine in any of the modified airplanes like 182 because of the cost of aviation gas I only have about 10 hour in a 182 but my favorite Cessna air plane I ever flown is the 177 I think it is even more stable than a 172 which is the plane I have most time on.
I flew a 182R (1983) with a flat four cylinder, air cooled, four liter, direct drive SMA diesel (Jet fuel) 230 HP engine in it. It had a TBO of 3500 hours, no gearbox, and did 230 HP on half the gallons of the 470 and in an R model with a 92 gallon "wet wing" it was able to fly across the Atlantic to Sweden where it's new home was, without ferry tanks. It was an incredible engine. Not sure why it did not take off unless Continental and Lycoming found out about it etc etc. It was hardly heavier, faster, longer lived and twice as economical as the 470. 4.0 TDI and a six cylinder was in the pipes for the 520 powered planes. French Company.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 thanks! I greased a few pockets and got it handled. Installed TPMS set up today. Also running 40-45 now. Hopefully better results. I’m going to have to fly in there sometime soon. Love your videos and why I got my RV6A
Nobody else on UA-cam does these types of videos. Very nice style. A true plane-lovers channel. (Perhaps you'd have more subscribers if you put giant red arrows in your thumbnails.) (That's a joke, btw.)
I do not know how to get high tech and get more subscribers. Most thumbnails are fake too. The scene in the thumbnail is not in the video and that is why I watched it. Any pro-tips on more subscribers would be welcome.
I'll take both. Will you take a check? :^D You have some very nice planes there. I bet you hope to sell them quick before you decide you'll keep one. :)
Interesting the choices people make to modify their airplane. If one were happy with all the mods…good deal. If not, then a redo after spending almost 400K would be painful. My 185 after 24 years of ownership and mods isn’t for everyone, but it is perfect for my needs. Someone once said something like: you can go fast, takeoff and land slow and carry a load with a Skywagon (especially a 185). If you want to settle for only two of those, buy something else. I think that’s true…relatively speaking.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Just kidding, of course. The conditions with the lighting and with the autofocus having fits it would have been impossible to do any better. Thanks for the excellent report, except now I have to find a '79 182!
Cockpits are difficult environments to shoot in. The range in light is more than my cameras can handle effectively, but I don't have $30K to buy a rig that would do it. And yeah ... my gimbal went wonky for a moment as well, but if I cut that part out, we'd miss what Mark was saying, so I left it in. Appreciate the grace. We do our best. - Don the Camera Guy.
not sure where you get "questionable design"...at the time they were front line aircraft and now with a reasonable amount of money invested in your long since paid off air frame you have a aircraft that will match or exceed what's currently in production at less than half the cost
@@DanFrederiksen Well, if you want an airplane that won’t carry anything and only go a couple hundred miles with an occasional tendency to self-immolate…
Brilliant! Thanks Mark!
These are the kind of details we want!
I hope I do not have to keep up that amount of info on each. My brain will explode.
I have a 1980 182Q with a port and polished IO550D-330HP. It is a beast on 29” mains. I sold a TBM 850 and found the joy of flying again. Love Skywagon University!
Thank you for sharing and thank you for watching our videos!
That is what we call a Beach Buggy.
The 169N is absolutely stunning! 500 cu in engine must be making at least 400 ft lbs of torque. Hats off to Mark. You’re a wealth of knowledge.
520 Cu inches. balance and blueprinted, polished and ported and with ceramic coatings. Dyno'ed at 310 HP.
Adamkorekach A Ly-Con built PPONK O-470-50 will dyno 308-314 HP and very close to 600# torque.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Is that a Ken Tunnell (LyCon) engine? The formula for hp is torqueXrpm/5252=hp. The rule of thumb for max torque is about a ft.pound of torque per cubic inch. I have a buddy with a LyCon io-550 which makes 607 lb.ft. at 2700 rpm which is about 338 hp. That's 1.1 pound of torque per ci. Tunnell pulled the dyno sheet on it for me.
Thanks Geekie Mark!
Your presentation without notes is amazing. Big fan of s w u.
Thank you.
The quality of the work and attention to detail on that 180 simply incredible.
I barely touched how good it is in that video.
I love the geekiness! Two amazing restorations! The level of detail, and quite frankly luxury, in the 180 are mouth-watering! I'm guessing the 182 was not refurbished by the same company that did the 180? It's hard not to fantasize about a 182 that might be given the same treatment (and funding)!🤩
27:10 I like the width of the newer 182's. I finally got an up close look at a 185 yesterday- wow it is a bit narrow.
Another great video Mark! I don't understand why a certain company in Granite Falls, Washington wouldn't want you saying their name though.
It remains a mystery.
That 180? Yes please, someone has spent a lot of time, love and money on that.
Both are cracking aircraft though - I like Cessnas✌️👍😊
Another great video - alway a pleasure and a school day👍✌️💜😊
Thnaks for watching.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 👍✌️😊💜👍
That 180 is my dream plane. That is if I can't have an Ag Truck which is basically the same wing and tail on a different fuselage, then yeah, this beauty. What a sweet plane.
Edit (20 min mk): You're showing the cockpit of the 180. MEIN GOTT!! What an airplane!! That control panel is so clean and well built! And the lighting! Seats! Interior appointments! Man O Man! Thank you so much for showing this off! Made my day!
Yes, that was the 180
@@skywagonuniversity5023 My accountant will probably string me up just for asking, but what are we looking at for a base price on the 180? Or should I choose another avenue to communicate?
@@sski I do not normally mention prices on the videos but since these are so modified and upgraded, everyone is going to want to know so I did mention them. Contact me on or on text at 530 306 4648 for info. They are on my website at Skywagons.com as well. The 180 is $399,000.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Thank you, Mark! Very much appreciated. $400 G's for the 180? I expected it to be at least twice that! Amazing! I have to look at a couple things but I will contact you toward the end of the week. Hopefully I won't be too late. Thank you again for your response!
A great video. I have a 1962 182E with a O-400U. I always thought it was speedy i now know that it has 230 HP at 2400. I looked into the John Jewell stc. I disregarded it due to the rpm limitation in cruise. But the 230 full hp at 2400 makes me smile. I totally agree on the upgrades and the ad ons. I’m pretty much equal on my purchase price to my avionics upgrades. I love it 162 mph at 13 gph is pretty nice.
So you have a U in a 62?
Yup, it was installed under the Texas Skyways STC. I can’t claim the credit for it, it was in it when I purchased it. It’s a beautiful example of a 62 it was painted with the blue, black and gold restart paint scheme. Maybe some day i’ll get a chance to drop in and show it off ;)
It will be in oshkosh with the Cessna mass arrival crew this year
That is a nice upgrade, 500 more hours on it's TBO too.
Incredible airplanes Mark! Those are definitely 2 examples of true sky "wagons". Not as expensive as I thought. Especially when compared to Carbon cubs for what they are and what they can do .
This is how it will be. Like the military planes, renovate and re-equip do not build new.
Stoked to see your Alaska content! Floatplanes! Floatplanes! Floatplanes!
Erm, yes, we will be in a 185 floatplane. It will be fun.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Huzzah!! Wishes do come true!
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Huzzah!! Wishes do come true!
I’m totally geeked out. Thanks, Mark!
You and me both!
Great video, Mark! I hope you can take a walk around Hood Lake when you go to Alaska.
Yes, I will.
Thx Mark...two outstanding aircraft, especially that 180.
I left California in 86 and moved to Portland Or.....at southwest skyways at TOA was a '79 182 with 2200 TT and a factory reman engine with 100 hours...I didn't have the 25,600 at the time to buy it at the time...still kicking myself over it
Oh yes. There are so many of those. Remember though that if you had bought it in 1986 you would have had 38 years of ownership, taxes, hangarage, annual, repairs, engine overhauls, paint, radio upgrades and would be in it $230,000 by now.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 and at 230k still less than a new Skyhawk or Warrior....lol
@skywagonuniversity5023 ..while it stung for a while.. I consoled myself with a T210N a couple years later
Great video! Stunning examples of their type. Would love a future video that compares/contrasts the various STOL kits out there.
That would be a good video but I'd have to have a few of them here to show. Robertson, Horton, Sportsman, Bush, Owl, Mid America, VG's etc etc.
Wow! Those are both GORGEOUS airplanes, verry good, informative video, thankyou, Mark! You are right about the cost perspective.
They are excellent. Thank you.
I greatly enjoy all your videos Mark. In the immortal words of Pink Floyd’s David Gilmour, I’m a “earthbound misfit,” but I live vicariously through UA-cam and pilots such as yourself. Thanks.
Boy I love that Cessna 180! Another cool video sir.
Thanks 👍
The 180 is an incredible build!!!
It really is.
Love the geek reviews. The 180 is exceptional.
Thanks.
Both of these planes are sooo nice!
I am headed out to by a Powerball ticket. If it hits, I will be in Placerville to pick up the 182 as soon as the check clears!
Excellent video. I love the geeky ones. Thank you Mark.
Glad you like them!
Amazing aircraft. Thanks, Mark.
Glad you enjoyed it
Fun watching you geek out. Respect and gratitude for what you do.
I appreciate that!
That’s really excellent info Mark. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.
Thanks.
Both of those planes are gorgeous. I wish I was able to pick up either of them!
They are excellent. Thanks.
That was a great video! You have surpassed even your normal high standard of geekdom, to a new level of PhD Geekness. We salute you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great airplanes. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching!
Very informative 😊
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing planes! Thanks for all the info, I can only imagine how awesome those are to fly.
They are spectacular in the air too.
Awesome 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 ty very much 🛩️🇺🇸🙏🏼👌🏼
Our pleasure!
Some dream planes right there! Awesome video as always, thanks Sir
Glad you enjoyed it!
Beautiful airplanes.
Have you ever put a diesel engine in any of the modified airplanes like 182 because of the cost of aviation gas I only have about 10 hour in a 182 but my favorite Cessna air plane I ever flown is the 177 I think it is even more stable than a 172 which is the plane I have most time on.
I flew a 182R (1983) with a flat four cylinder, air cooled, four liter, direct drive SMA diesel (Jet fuel) 230 HP engine in it. It had a TBO of 3500 hours, no gearbox, and did 230 HP on half the gallons of the 470 and in an R model with a 92 gallon "wet wing" it was able to fly across the Atlantic to Sweden where it's new home was, without ferry tanks. It was an incredible engine. Not sure why it did not take off unless Continental and Lycoming found out about it etc etc. It was hardly heavier, faster, longer lived and twice as economical as the 470. 4.0 TDI and a six cylinder was in the pipes for the 520 powered planes. French Company.
I flew over yesterday from Tahoe. Should’ve stopped in. Went to Columbia and got a flat too 😂
I have a tube.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 thanks! I greased a few pockets and got it handled. Installed TPMS set up today. Also running 40-45 now. Hopefully better results. I’m going to have to fly in there sometime soon. Love your videos and why I got my RV6A
That 180 is Niiiiiiiiiiiice
Nicest. Yes. Very.
Fantastic 30 minutes! N641AB would be a great 125 kt cruiser!
Thank you.
Mark is the Mona Lisa Vito of Cessna airplanes.
It is. We should have had a silent walkaround with serene music playing instead of me jabbering.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 The jabbering is the best part! Model years, feature changes and anomalies, etc. …jabber on sir.
169N is a king hell fetish machine! I've worked the hell out of these airframes, but I'd be afraid to go anywhere near this thing
Afraid why? value or complexity?
Are those Atlee Dodge seats in the back of the 180?
They are "Lakeview" seats.
Nobody else on UA-cam does these types of videos. Very nice style. A true plane-lovers channel.
(Perhaps you'd have more subscribers if you put giant red arrows in your thumbnails.)
(That's a joke, btw.)
I do not know how to get high tech and get more subscribers. Most thumbnails are fake too. The scene in the thumbnail is not in the video and that is why I watched it. Any pro-tips on more subscribers would be welcome.
Would there be a benefit to putting a 3-bladed prop on the 182?
A little, Looks cooler, better tip clearance, smoother, pulls harder but costs more, slows you down a bit.
I love geekiness !
At least there is one of you. H ah ah ah
Gorgeous Skywagon. You almost had me until I saw all the android, I mean Dynon stuff…
Hmmmm Yes, no comment but it all very impressive anyway.
Mark I would love to own the 182
So would I.
I'll take both. Will you take a check? :^D You have some very nice planes there. I bet you hope to sell them quick before you decide you'll keep one. :)
They are ready for you now sir...............
30:50 "QUACK-QUACK" Mark does not bat an eyelid . . . .
I said something there that needed to be quacked out.
Interesting the choices people make to modify their airplane. If one were happy with all the mods…good deal. If not, then a redo after spending almost 400K would be painful. My 185 after 24 years of ownership and mods isn’t for everyone, but it is perfect for my needs.
Someone once said something like: you can go fast, takeoff and land slow and carry a load with a Skywagon (especially a 185). If you want to settle for only two of those, buy something else. I think that’s true…relatively speaking.
I want the 180.
Come and get it :-)
The absolute best version of a 182 is the Kenai from Peterson performance plus.
Very true but a very different beast.
I almost would rather live out of a nice 182 than to deal with real estate choices right now.
I can't live out my Mooney.
crazy ca😂
I was under the impression that the O-470U engines couldn't use mogas? Maybe I just read it wrong.
You are correct. "No Mo For U". Too high compression. Only the 76 and olders with the K, L, R and S engines.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Ah ok. Cool video, keep up the good work.
Mark wirh a built-in teleprompter! Ma, I wish my memory was 1/2 as good😢.
Pro tip - don't give the camera person Scotch until AFTER shooting the video. Otherwise, perfect.
The camera is on an gimble and it is not fast moving but I know what you mean.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 Just kidding, of course. The conditions with the lighting and with the autofocus having fits it would have been impossible to do any better. Thanks for the excellent report, except now I have to find a '79 182!
Cockpits are difficult environments to shoot in. The range in light is more than my cameras can handle effectively, but I don't have $30K to buy a rig that would do it. And yeah ... my gimbal went wonky for a moment as well, but if I cut that part out, we'd miss what Mark was saying, so I left it in. Appreciate the grace. We do our best. - Don the Camera Guy.
@@skywagonuniversity5023 I hope you got the Scotch!
@@michaelrice500 I didn't get any scotch. Not sure what you mean. Thanks. Did you send some.
:)))))) this is the video
So you like details?
Someone out the 180 company 😂
It's Bushliner
Rather than spending a lot of effort on reworking what are old planes of questionable design, why not make new planes that are vastly superior?
Because a new one is a million dollars.
not sure where you get "questionable design"...at the time they were front line aircraft and now with a reasonable amount of money invested in your long since paid off air frame you have a aircraft that will match or exceed what's currently in production at less than half the cost
Proven designs that have had decades of well tested mods and tweaks. Classic, timeless designs.
@@mattf49006 but at the time was 1952. Try comparing a 1952 car to a Tesla Model 3 performance
@@DanFrederiksen Well, if you want an airplane that won’t carry anything and only go a couple hundred miles with an occasional tendency to self-immolate…