Thanks for your review. I just wish I had seen it 2 months ago before I bought one. Mine not only shoots low and left, but it has more failure to feed than any pistol ever should with all types of grains. 500 rds through it so far. Still haven't heard from FN since I reached out before Christmas. Honestly, I don't expect to. My FFL said they had never heard of the Reflex performing this way, yet there is plenty of content out showing exactly what you just proved to be a real problem. Where is the accountability FN?
Thanks. I was heavily considering this but I’ll be going with the shield plus. Your not the only one reporting this. Sucks the customer service wasn’t more helpful. Hope they see this video!
Pretty much every other video and article I see about the Reflex is off to the left or very accurate. Makes me think something is going wrong with quality control of the sights. Great video!
@@thearmedgardener No I didn’t never purchase one,I felt like it wouldn’t Be worth carrying I’m my rotation..I still have mixed feelings about buying one ..? What do you think Brother Is it worth it or No.
I purchased the FN Reflex and love it. It replaced my P365. Spot on on accuracy. I will say the trigger is a little different from a striker fire but love it.
Nice. Yeah. It’s an internal hammer fired gun which would explain the difference in feel. I just don’t understand why it doesn’t have da/sa. Be nice to have a double action first shot.
From what I’ve seen on the forums, FN put the wrong size rear irons on the gun which is why it shoots so low. Switch to a P365 #8 rear iron & it should be spot on once zeroed.
Same issue with mine, and not happy about it at all. I love my 510, and moderately like my reflex, but I think this will be it for me as far as purchasing more FN products.
@Dogglegg that would fix the left part of it but not the low part of it thats in the sights themselves maybe one of them is the wrong height as someone else mentioned
Mine is shooting low left and was having jamming issues. They said I can send it back but need to be broke in with 124gr ammo. So I went to the range started shooting and on the 5th magazine it did not cycle so I ejected magazine and there was a small round locking clip looking piece that fell out. I left the range came home and tried to disassemble slide and it got stuck. Had to pull the 2 pins and remove firing unit. Put it back together and seems to function but have no idea what that little round piece is that fell out. Any thoughts?
There may be tolerance stacking on your slide and or front sight making it too high on the reflex. Since the groups were excellent that rules out barrel deformation the slight leftward straying may be due to the sights being slightly off
I put 50 rounds through a rental. I really liked the gun. Good trigger, surprisingly not as snappy for a gun this size. I’ll admit that I’m no marksman. I want to get one but I might either wait a year for any problems to be sorted or perhaps a red dot will fix the accuracy issue? I hope your problem gets resolved.
I have a buddies right now. Having same problem. He thought it was him and his wife. They are fairly new to hand guns. So asked me to try it out. Same exact issue as your having. Unfortunately when they asked about the FN I told them they were quality Firearms’s.
Mine is shooting low left also. FN said "its just you". I shot it along with several others at the same time & its the only one shooting low left. I measured the front sight & it was not centered. I drifted it over and now its centered but still low.
my Reflex has been an tac driver right out of the box. The only thing that worries me is the extremely light trigger pull. Yours is accurate also, the sights just need lined up. Raise the front site and move it to the right slightly and you'll be all set. No big deal.
I like mine, but ended up swapping the rear sight out for a #8 sig DI sight. 0.306" After 2500 rounds however my reflex is deadlined with a crack behind the locking lug area. If you are curious, i cover complete disassembly of the frame and slide. 2 weeks and i still haven't gotten a reply from FN. Removing the finger extension and using a flush plate eliminated most of the left flyers. My reflex shipped with a #6 height sight. 0.261" is what my factory sight measured out at. Honestly if FN does warranty the frame crack, im going to get it back and move on to a different platform. It does one thing well though, and it's the only micro 9 i actually enjoy shooting a lot. I got it for carry with dress attire for office meetings. And up until the crack, it did that fairly well. Hopefully that helps you a little bit. I have a very detailed post on Reddit aub group, R/FNReflex with pictures. Nice video and thank you for being one of the few honest reviewers out there. 🤙
I was thinking the same but FN sad they put a micrometer on the sites, and that everything was fine. If there was an issue that was their opportunity to own up to it and address it, ya know?
I was thinking the same but FN sad they put a micrometer on the sites, and that everything was fine. If there was an issue that was their opportunity to own up to it and address it, ya know?
I had the same issue, low and left. I adjusted the stock sight, pushing the rear to the right, and while it moved the POI, it was still low and groups were not great. I was frustrated but had put Sig XRAY sights on my FN509M. I got another pair of XRAYs(#8 front and rear) and put them on the Reflex. It shoots POA/POI with the sights centered on the slide. FYI, I pushed both sights out from right to left no issue after a drop of Slip2000 on the dove tail over night.. Got over 1k through the gun now and it’s been 100% reliable.
I own two of these, one mrd, and one standard version. Both shoot low left, just like yours. With the mrd I was able to compensate with a red dot, and now it’s great, but there is definitely an issue, and fn keeps denying it. I also own almost every other micro 9, and shoot them all well, the fn is my favorite, if not for the obvious accuracy issues. All the reports I have seen online about changing to #8 sig rear sights being the fix, also make no sense to me, as a #8 sig rear sight is actually shorter in height than the factory fn sight, which would make the low impact even worse.
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel you just go to sigs website and look for a number 8 rear sight. Or, optics planet or wherever you want to buy a sight from, and any sight made for a sig will have a number, like 6,8,10, etc, the number 8 will fit the dovetail, but it is shorter by my measurement, then the factory fn sight. I believe the sight used in the post I’m referring to, was a trijicon hd, and the poster reported much better Accuracy after install.
I’m sending mine back in today to get the sights drifted. While on the phone with FN customer service they claimed that they’ve gotten a lot of these complaints and supposedly every single one that’s been sent in to them didn’t actually have a problem. I call major CAP on that one. I was shooting yesterday at 20 yards and had to aim a foot right and a foot high to hit my target. When I did hit the target it wasn’t even close to my sight picture. Other than that though the gun feels great
In the first shots in this video from the side, while lining up the sights, the muzzle is aiming downward. Either the front sight is too tall or the slide is not machined out to the proper spec
I'd bet there has been a bad batch or QC issue... I have one that has an issue, but it's not an accuracy/precision problem. In my case, it's a failure to go into battery at times... BUT I think I figured that out and is smoothing out now that I've but 350 rounds through it. My sights are what I've seen on most videos so not sure why. I do have to say because the trigger is different, as is grip angle, I've had to change my grip a little on this small firearm.
After switching to 124 grain or higher and 400 rounds through it is shooting fine for me. 115 grain do shoot a little more erratic than the 124 grain. That could be the break in or me though to. The FTB seems to be when I don’t pull the slide far enough back.
One guy says you have to replace the iron sights with the Sig #8/8: TRUGLO Fiber-Optic Handgun Night Sight | Compact Durable Snag-Resistant High-Visibility Red Front & Green Rear Sight for Handguns in order for the iron sights to work.
Bought Reflex last week. Shot it out of box. Spot on 7yards. Let a friend try. He was spot on. Loved it. Ive tried many pistols and the Reflex is right up near top out of box! Many things play into accuracy. Trigger/finger/grip/offhandgrip/eyes/pointof aim/grip angle/ so hard to believe its all on the pistol folks
This makes me want to buy one just to see what it will do . I see another well known youtuber shooting steel at about thirty yards on a defense range and loving this gun .
11 hours prior to watching this video. I sold my reflex for experiencing the same accuracy issue. I put approximately 800 rounds(different brands and weights) of ammunition through this firearm to no avail. All my shots/groups hit the target low and left of the bullseye at 15ft. Spoke to FN which stated the firearm was tested prior to leaving the factory. If it was shooting the way I described it, it wouldn't have left the factory. FN also stated it needs time to break in. I believe that approximately 800 would be considered broken in. I must say this about the Reflex. It has a great trigger. I did not have any type of malfunction and it felt great in the(my) hand. Back to HK.....
Same issue with mine, I love the gun carry it everywhere, but always shoots low left at the range. It’s not the shooter guys it’s the guns sights. None of my pistols have this issue. I am not overly worried when carrying, b/c if I need it at close range I can hit the target even if a few inches off center. But I do want to get this fixed, I like precision.
Mine did the same. I did a basic zeroing of my green dot off the sights right after purchase and went to the range. The first shot threw me off for a second. I thought it hadn’t been secured properly, but after checking it was good I figured I just didn’t rough zero it correctly and just aligned my dot. It’s been fine since, but yea, after seeing your results and others, I’m positive I have the same problem. On top of that, after 200+ rounds I’ve had a failure to return to battery in practically every mag and have to bump it in. It’s really soured my experience with this gun. I’ve read other people’s are having the same issue to usually a lesser extent, but FN is saying the same thing they told you about the break in nonsense. I don’t doubt some guns need a little time to fully get smooth, but malfunction after malfunction is not the same thing. Not to mention, none of my guns have ever needed this extensive a “break-in” period. From my hammer fired Sig229 to my cheapo Taurus G2c, all my Caniks, etc, they’ve all ran like butter right out the box, with my MC9 having one light strike 50 rounds in, but then running like clockwork multiple thousands of rounds after that. It’s really made me doubt this gun to say the least. Also sucks this is my first FN and I’m not impressed in the slightest. I’ve had so many buddies, gun shop guys, and media folks talk up their FN’s, but, this thing has me wondering if some of these were built by another company, or who knows what, because, this thing probably isn’t gonna stay with me long if its recent deep clean and light lube doesn’t solve the issue by 300 rounds. I don’t see how a company would use oil so gunky that it’d cause the weapon to constantly fail right out of the box, but, I entertained it, cleaned it, and await range time this Wednesday. So disappointed, even though I plan on selling it, if you’re reading this, I wouldn’t recommend this gun at all.
Mine did that too. I was shooting factory Fiocci. The extractor was square and would catch the rim while going into battery. Removed the extractor and rounded off the bottom. No issues now whatsoever.
@@gregdownend3604 I wouldn't be surprised. I got a reflex last week. I went out and shot 25 rounds and it didn't shoot low at all. Was a little left so I just moved the front sight left a hair and that solved the problem. Normally I adjust the rear sight but it looked to be perfectly centered. The front sight was slightly right of center. The trigger is a bit different than the Glocks I'm accustomed to but nothing I can't adjust to. ✌️
@@tommyperez6377 because I bought one of these and have had no issues. Also I believe many YT gun channels are paid to endorse or bash items. I have had a FN reflex for over a month and it has none of tne problems this video 'obsessed' over. That's all I'm 'saying."
Not only do I have the Reflex so does one of the guys who runs my local range. Neither of us have any issues with low left shooting in either of our guns. We are using the sites that came with the guns with zero modifications. I wonder if FN made a few changes to the more recently manufactured Reflexes.
What defensive rounds do y'all use for y'all fn Reflex anybody?? I use Hornady in my 45 but I'm having feed issues with the same ammunition with my Reflex
Anyone coming here with reflex issues regarding accuracy, replace the rear site with a #8 (sig p365) site. The stock rear Reflex sight is a #6 (lower), while the front is a #8 (higher), and is causing the gun to shoot low.
I believe front sight is to tall and rear sight looks good but imma drift it over right and shoot again. Using Kentucky windage I was able to stack round on top of round 5-7 yards but something definitely up with irons
One of the best and logical reasons the FN Reflex shoots low and left is because of equal tension with the pinky finger as the other two fingers. Less of that pull with the extended magazine. Other than that, this gun shoots as good as ANY other micr-9mm. Not a sight problem at all if that was ever brought up. Hope I worded that to understanding. In a nut shell and with the smaller mag, your pinky is the issue. 15 round? I'm grouped dead center at 7 yards.
It sounds like FN made a production change to the sights on the Reflex at some point. But like Springfield and the hellcat trigger issue, I bet FN won’t comment at all - either for liability sake or because they don’t want to have have a mass influx of returned Reflex pistols to have to change sights out on.
I have this same issue with my Springfield Hellcat. My buddies have also shot my Hellcat and they are better shots then me. Yet, they hit low and left just like me.
Honest guys tryouts .I read more of other experts say same as you ..low and left ..my thinking is manufactured not correct straightness caliber ed wrong ????
Lol that’s a dishonest answer from a gun expert. If the gun is shooting all over the paper in wild groups that’s an actual accuracy issue. You even admitted in the video it could be solved with a red dot. Fix the sights, or replace them. These issues are easily resolved, and issues with new firearms are common out of the gate.
Thanks for making the video and saving me and others $500. I was going to buy one but after seeing your video and reading reviews, now I'm looking else where. I really wanted to like this gun cause I think the FN 509 is a well made full size 9mm and still considering getting one.
@@hixnada8278 I think it up to the shooter. For me, the grip of my support hand was critical to not pull left and low. I run weapons lights on all 3 and I use the light like folks use those gas pedals, my hands are to large for those gas pedals, so I use my lights. BTW, I have added a 3rd Reflex to my collection now. I really like that trigger.👍
@@CookieMonster_1969 Three Reflex’s? That’s awesome. Don’t feel the trigger is too light safely carry? Seems a lot of folks are saying wait for the manual safety version if it ever comes out.
@@hixnada8278 In a proper holster, no. The trigger is protected from being pulled. Although, that being said, I am not willing to appendix carry. I carry at the 4 o'clock, in a secure Kydex holster. 👍
Lol it’s so obviously a sight issue. I’m not sure why so many people in the comments along with this review consider it accuracy issues 😂. FN should have much higher standards in customer support to get this corrected. Sig had issues with the 365, and made the corrections. A red dot would be the answer, but co witness is a must. So if new irons need to be purchased that would be my suggestion if FN won’t make it right.
I agree. This is a common theme on Sig forums...."Why does my...shoot low?" Most of the time, it's the combat hold, sometimes, the wrong combination of front and rear sights. I'm this case, I wonder if they understand that "combat hold" means the dot on the front sight is your POI when your sights are aligned. You place the dot on what you intend to shoot, not just the front sight. A lot of people think "6 o'clock" hold is "sights on target," so when they go to what they believe is a "combat hold" with a "center hold" and are still too low on their hold. As far as the shooting left, part, yeah, seems like some drifting is in order. I had a Sig P229 that consistently shot left. I thought it was all me,til I got a new one, I sent to GrayGuns, because I wanted the legion trigger in the classic Sig bobtail frame. When that one came back, it came back a tack driver. I thought it was a grip issue with me, as the P229 grip is a little narrow for me. When I shot the GrayGuns upgraded one, I decided to change the sights on my old one. I marked the slide for the placement of the old sights and measured. With the sight on you couldn't tell, but with it removed, and just the lines, you could see, the rear sight was off center. I measured it, again and instead of placing the new sight in the same position as the old one, I placed it centered..I went to the range and brought my drifter to fine tune, but I didn't need to. It was dead one center all the way out to the bullet trap (20-25yards). I think those sights need some drifting. That's essentially what is going to be done with a red dot.
Mine as well...my Halosun is maxed out to its right limit and still not 100% zeroed! What a joke...doesn't even seem a call to FN will be of any use after reading what their response has been to everyone else! WTH
Reference to the FN REFLEX has FN attempted to correct the problem of left to low pattern, or are they still saying it is the shooter? They say use the combat sight but that does not improve the group. The vice will still not shoot any better group. FN will lose on this pistol unless they become honest. Your life depends on the pistol you carry. FN be honest!
Also FN, come clean with the extractor issues as well. Many people with FTF issues, me included. Just say you messed up, shave down our extractor pins, and apologize and compensate us for doing the QC you should've done. Honestly, I should've just bought the 43x or 48. Would've saved money and time.
Just realign the sights to a center hold from the combat hold like all the other micro pistols out there then put a cowitness style dot or just go dot. Problem solved.
@@mikes8915 this is what is wanted to see, It matters what the distance and round the sights were dialed in at. With how tight the groups are i doubt its a bad barrel.
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel75 ft? You know this gun wasn't created to shoot that far. It's a Micro pistol. Show the reflex some love and shame on FNH for not making sure the sights are zeroed.
So it's not accuracy, the groups are good and consistent. The barrel is probably ok. Did it occur to you that it could just be a sights issue. Seemingly their customer care s*cks.
Drift the sight big deal, almost every gun I own I’ve had to drift sights a tad, move on dumbest thing to make an entire video about, accuracy and 30 ft is silly, lost high end guns start accuracy claims at 25-50y (75-150 ft) drift the sight move on.
this is my first fn. I, haven't shot it yet. I am a cz guy who loves the feel of a hammer trigger. This platform just makes sense for me to love. I hope I dont have this low and left shit🥲
Thanks for sharing your unbiased review! I was considering adding this to my collection, but I’ll keep watching more reviews.
Thanks for your review. I just wish I had seen it 2 months ago before I bought one. Mine not only shoots low and left, but it has more failure to feed than any pistol ever should with all types of grains. 500 rds through it so far. Still haven't heard from FN since I reached out before Christmas. Honestly, I don't expect to. My FFL said they had never heard of the Reflex performing this way, yet there is plenty of content out showing exactly what you just proved to be a real problem. Where is the accountability FN?
Thanks. I was heavily considering this but I’ll be going with the shield plus. Your not the only one reporting this. Sucks the customer service wasn’t more helpful. Hope they see this video!
Pretty much every other video and article I see about the Reflex is off to the left or very accurate. Makes me think something is going wrong with quality control of the sights. Great video!
QC needs to relooked for sure and I just maybe selling mine after trying my own test
Thank you!!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾So MUCH for an honest review on the FN reflex..
I definitely strapped my thoughts about making a purchase.
Right on Fred 👍
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel lol😅😂🤣
@@frederickwilliams5288 did u end up getting it? How was urs?
@@thearmedgardener No I didn’t never purchase one,I felt like it wouldn’t
Be worth carrying I’m my rotation..I still have mixed feelings about buying one ..? What do you think Brother
Is it worth it or No.
@@frederickwilliams5288 I sold mine and bought a P365
I purchased the FN Reflex and love it. It replaced my P365. Spot on on accuracy. I will say the trigger is a little different from a striker fire but love it.
Right on Alfred. I’m glad yours is dialed in.🤙
Nice. Yeah. It’s an internal hammer fired gun which would explain the difference in feel. I just don’t understand why it doesn’t have da/sa. Be nice to have a double action first shot.
I'm glad it doesn't personally@@kogasoldier9379
Same issue here. Bought a new FN Relfex, shooting low left. Multiple shooters. Not shooter error.
From what I’ve seen on the forums, FN put the wrong size rear irons on the gun which is why it shoots so low. Switch to a P365 #8 rear iron & it should be spot on once zeroed.
Gotcha. I will talk to FN about it again next week. I did ask the rep about the sights. He claimed zero issues. Go figure
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channelany updates ?
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channelany updates?
Mine shoots great!
thanks going to try the rear swap
Same issue with mine, and not happy about it at all. I love my 510, and moderately like my reflex, but I think this will be it for me as far as purchasing more FN products.
This pistol is shooting EXCELLENT groups. The sight alignment is off. Both sights are driftable. Taller rear sight. Drift both as needed. Done...
@Dogglegg that would fix the left part of it but not the low part of it thats in the sights themselves maybe one of them is the wrong height as someone else mentioned
@@HorsepowerDrAftermarket sights or carefully filing down the front sight blade will fix the height.
These comments seem like they are made by people who don't own this gun. This gun has crazy slide wobble and shit grouping.
Why are people OK with replacing the sites on a $600.00 pistol???
@@brucedzamba3842 cuz it's MRD, it's meant for a red dot... It's part of why I bought it... But if that don't fix it I'm selling it
put the first 300 rounds through my reflex yesterday. no malfunctions and shoots as good as my 43x and p365x with a nicer trigger. its a keeper
Mine is shooting low left and was having jamming issues. They said I can send it back but need to be broke in with 124gr ammo. So I went to the range started shooting and on the 5th magazine it did not cycle so I ejected magazine and there was a small round locking clip looking piece that fell out. I left the range came home and tried to disassemble slide and it got stuck. Had to pull the 2 pins and remove firing unit. Put it back together and seems to function but have no idea what that little round piece is that fell out. Any thoughts?
There may be tolerance stacking on your slide and or front sight making it too high on the reflex. Since the groups were excellent that rules out barrel deformation the slight leftward straying may be due to the sights being slightly off
I put 50 rounds through a rental. I really liked the gun. Good trigger, surprisingly not as snappy for a gun this size. I’ll admit that I’m no marksman. I want to get one but I might either wait a year for any problems to be sorted or perhaps a red dot will fix the accuracy issue? I hope your problem gets resolved.
Spot on with mine from first round to around 1000... My new EDC and I put up the Sig! Happy Happy Happy! Sux for you...
Outstanding review and insightful video. I just subscribed. Thank you.
Thanks DH
I have a buddies right now. Having same problem. He thought it was him and his wife. They are fairly new to hand guns. So asked me to try it out. Same exact issue as your having. Unfortunately when they asked about the FN I told them they were quality Firearms’s.
Maybe the tester at FN is a Leftie?
I'm carrying a Walther PPS in 40cal and was wondering about this one.
Mine is shooting low left also. FN said "its just you". I shot it along with several others at the same time & its the only one shooting low left. I measured the front sight & it was not centered. I drifted it over and now its centered but still low.
What hold are you using?
Just got mine, cycles perfectly and sights are dead on. Yes the sights on yours were off but the gun seemes to be very accurate in your testing.
my Reflex has been an tac driver right out of the box. The only thing that worries me is the extremely light trigger pull. Yours is accurate also, the sights just need lined up. Raise the front site and move it to the right slightly and you'll be all set. No big deal.
I like mine, but ended up swapping the rear sight out for a #8 sig DI sight. 0.306"
After 2500 rounds however my reflex is deadlined with a crack behind the locking lug area. If you are curious, i cover complete disassembly of the frame and slide. 2 weeks and i still haven't gotten a reply from FN.
Removing the finger extension and using a flush plate eliminated most of the left flyers.
My reflex shipped with a #6 height sight. 0.261" is what my factory sight measured out at.
Honestly if FN does warranty the frame crack, im going to get it back and move on to a different platform.
It does one thing well though, and it's the only micro 9 i actually enjoy shooting a lot. I got it for carry with dress attire for office meetings. And up until the crack, it did that fairly well.
Hopefully that helps you a little bit. I have a very detailed post on Reddit aub group, R/FNReflex with pictures.
Nice video and thank you for being one of the few honest reviewers out there. 🤙
I have the same issue and I thought I was just rusty but after using multiple other hand guns I own I realized something’s wrong with my reflex.
So what can you do to fix it with open sights? change sights? shorter sights?
I think that one may have the wrong sights install on it. Because i have no issues with mine at 7 and 15 yrds.
I was thinking the same but FN sad they put a micrometer on the sites, and that everything was fine. If there was an issue that was their opportunity to own up to it and address it, ya know?
I was thinking the same but FN sad they put a micrometer on the sites, and that everything was fine. If there was an issue that was their opportunity to own up to it and address it, ya know?
I had the same issue, low and left. I adjusted the stock sight, pushing the rear to the right, and while it moved the POI, it was still low and groups were not great.
I was frustrated but had put Sig XRAY sights on my FN509M. I got another pair of XRAYs(#8 front and rear) and put them on the Reflex. It shoots POA/POI with the sights centered on the slide.
FYI, I pushed both sights out from right to left no issue after a drop of Slip2000 on the dove tail over night..
Got over 1k through the gun now and it’s been 100% reliable.
Good to hear!!
I own two of these, one mrd, and one standard version. Both shoot low left, just like yours. With the mrd I was able to compensate with a red dot, and now it’s great, but there is definitely an issue, and fn keeps denying it. I also own almost every other micro 9, and shoot them all well, the fn is my favorite, if not for the obvious accuracy issues. All the reports I have seen online about changing to #8 sig rear sights being the fix, also make no sense to me, as a #8 sig rear sight is actually shorter in height than the factory fn sight, which would make the low impact even worse.
Great feedback. How does that work Super? Do we just go to their website and find it by the number eight?
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel you just go to sigs website and look for a number 8 rear sight. Or, optics planet or wherever you want to buy a sight from, and any sight made for a sig will have a number, like 6,8,10, etc, the number 8 will fit the dovetail, but it is shorter by my measurement, then the factory fn sight. I believe the sight used in the post I’m referring to, was a trijicon hd, and the poster reported much better Accuracy after install.
Hmmmm mine shoots accurate as heck
#6 rear
This is incorrect. Factory is 6. Going to 8 makes it taller on the rear sight, hence raising POI. You can verify this on sigs website.
I’m sending mine back in today to get the sights drifted. While on the phone with FN customer service they claimed that they’ve gotten a lot of these complaints and supposedly every single one that’s been sent in to them didn’t actually have a problem. I call major CAP on that one. I was shooting yesterday at 20 yards and had to aim a foot right and a foot high to hit my target. When I did hit the target it wasn’t even close to my sight picture. Other than that though the gun feels great
In the first shots in this video from the side, while lining up the sights, the muzzle is aiming downward. Either the front sight is too tall or the slide is not machined out to the proper spec
Question?.... You mentioned that FN claims that they tested them and are shooting accurate... Are they unlike you are using Optics?🤔
I'd bet there has been a bad batch or QC issue... I have one that has an issue, but it's not an accuracy/precision problem. In my case, it's a failure to go into battery at times... BUT I think I figured that out and is smoothing out now that I've but 350 rounds through it. My sights are what I've seen on most videos so not sure why. I do have to say because the trigger is different, as is grip angle, I've had to change my grip a little on this small firearm.
After switching to 124 grain or higher and 400 rounds through it is shooting fine for me. 115 grain do shoot a little more erratic than the 124 grain. That could be the break in or me though to. The FTB seems to be when I don’t pull the slide far enough back.
I have the same problem with my FN Reflex. I'm going to mount a red dot on it to improve my point of impact.
One guy says you have to replace the iron sights with the Sig #8/8: TRUGLO Fiber-Optic Handgun Night Sight | Compact Durable Snag-Resistant High-Visibility Red Front & Green Rear Sight for Handguns in order for the iron sights to work.
Bought Reflex last week. Shot it out of box. Spot on 7yards. Let a friend try. He was spot on. Loved it. Ive tried many pistols and the Reflex is right up near top out of box! Many things play into accuracy. Trigger/finger/grip/offhandgrip/eyes/pointof aim/grip angle/ so hard to believe its all on the pistol folks
This makes me want to buy one just to see what it will do .
I see another well known youtuber shooting steel at about thirty yards on a defense range and loving this gun .
So did you find out what’s up with the pistol?
11 hours prior to watching this video. I sold my reflex for experiencing the same accuracy issue. I put approximately 800 rounds(different brands and weights) of ammunition through this firearm to no avail. All my shots/groups hit the target low and left of the bullseye at 15ft. Spoke to FN which stated the firearm was tested prior to leaving the factory. If it was shooting the way I described it, it wouldn't have left the factory. FN also stated it needs time to break in. I believe that approximately 800 would be considered broken in. I must say this about the Reflex. It has a great trigger. I did not have any type of malfunction and it felt great in the(my) hand. Back to HK.....
Imagine selling a gun with adjustable sights lol
I’m getting low left also! It’s always risky buying firearms that are new to the market. You get what you get! Might sell it I’m not sure.
Same issue with mine, I love the gun carry it everywhere, but always shoots low left at the range. It’s not the shooter guys it’s the guns sights. None of my pistols have this issue. I am not overly worried when carrying, b/c if I need it at close range I can hit the target even if a few inches off center. But I do want to get this fixed, I like precision.
Mine did the same. I did a basic zeroing of my green dot off the sights right after purchase and went to the range. The first shot threw me off for a second. I thought it hadn’t been secured properly, but after checking it was good I figured I just didn’t rough zero it correctly and just aligned my dot. It’s been fine since, but yea, after seeing your results and others, I’m positive I have the same problem.
On top of that, after 200+ rounds I’ve had a failure to return to battery in practically every mag and have to bump it in. It’s really soured my experience with this gun. I’ve read other people’s are having the same issue to usually a lesser extent, but FN is saying the same thing they told you about the break in nonsense. I don’t doubt some guns need a little time to fully get smooth, but malfunction after malfunction is not the same thing. Not to mention, none of my guns have ever needed this extensive a “break-in” period. From my hammer fired Sig229 to my cheapo Taurus G2c, all my Caniks, etc, they’ve all ran like butter right out the box, with my MC9 having one light strike 50 rounds in, but then running like clockwork multiple thousands of rounds after that. It’s really made me doubt this gun to say the least. Also sucks this is my first FN and I’m not impressed in the slightest. I’ve had so many buddies, gun shop guys, and media folks talk up their FN’s, but, this thing has me wondering if some of these were built by another company, or who knows what, because, this thing probably isn’t gonna stay with me long if its recent deep clean and light lube doesn’t solve the issue by 300 rounds. I don’t see how a company would use oil so gunky that it’d cause the weapon to constantly fail right out of the box, but, I entertained it, cleaned it, and await range time this Wednesday. So disappointed, even though I plan on selling it, if you’re reading this, I wouldn’t recommend this gun at all.
Mine did that too. I was shooting factory Fiocci. The extractor was square and would catch the rim while going into battery. Removed the extractor and rounded off the bottom. No issues now whatsoever.
If you have them in stock try changing the rear site to see if that helps. If not id send it back again.
Honest outlaw had one that the sites were not lined up properly
He knew that too but was paid to wine about it like most of these gun channel host on YT.
@@J_Braz_ I kinda get the feeling that Sig is deep in a lot of pockets and trying to keep competition away.
@@gregdownend3604 I wouldn't be surprised. I got a reflex last week. I went out and shot 25 rounds and it didn't shoot low at all. Was a little left so I just moved the front sight left a hair and that solved the problem. Normally I adjust the rear sight but it looked to be perfectly centered. The front sight was slightly right of center. The trigger is a bit different than the Glocks I'm accustomed to but nothing I can't adjust to. ✌️
@@J_Braz_what makes you say that? I'm actually intrigued.
@@tommyperez6377 because I bought one of these and have had no issues. Also I believe many YT gun channels are paid to endorse or bash items. I have had a FN reflex for over a month and it has none of tne problems this video 'obsessed' over. That's all I'm 'saying."
Do you think this is all the reflexes or just maybe yours ? Just curious
I can't seem to get the tlr7x on the gun idk what I'm doing wrong
Not only do I have the Reflex so does one of the guys who runs my local range. Neither of us have any issues with low left shooting in either of our guns. We are using the sites that came with the guns with zero modifications. I wonder if FN made a few changes to the more recently manufactured Reflexes.
What no. Is your reflex?
Wish i had seen this review before buying mine, it shoots low left also.
What defensive rounds do y'all use for y'all fn Reflex anybody?? I use Hornady in my 45 but I'm having feed issues with the same ammunition with my Reflex
I see this video is from 10 months ago. Is there any update on the issue?
My Reflex had the same issue. I replaced the rear sight with a #8 Sig (non 365) and lined it up with a laser bore sight. Fixed it completely.
My newly purchased reflex still does the same too. I also bought a #8 and it's still in shipment but I have high hopes.
Thank you for speaking the truth. I was thinking about getting one but maybe not.
Anyone coming here with reflex issues regarding accuracy, replace the rear site with a #8 (sig p365) site. The stock rear Reflex sight is a #6 (lower), while the front is a #8 (higher), and is causing the gun to shoot low.
FN also told me it.... Was me. Then one friend, then another shot, all low left.
I puchased a #8 rear sight and will adjust for windage
I got one of the first lcp max and had the same issue ... i got another max manufactured 2 years later and the problem was fixed...
I believe front sight is to tall and rear sight looks good but imma drift it over right and shoot again. Using Kentucky windage I was able to stack round on top of round 5-7 yards but something definitely up with irons
thanks for the honest review
One of the best and logical reasons the FN Reflex shoots low and left is because of equal tension with the pinky finger as the other two fingers. Less of that pull with the extended magazine. Other than that, this gun shoots as good as ANY other micr-9mm. Not a sight problem at all if that was ever brought up. Hope I worded that to understanding. In a nut shell and with the smaller mag, your pinky is the issue. 15 round? I'm grouped dead center at 7 yards.
It sounds like FN made a production change to the sights on the Reflex at some point. But like Springfield and the hellcat trigger issue, I bet FN won’t comment at all - either for liability sake or because they don’t want to have have a mass influx of returned Reflex pistols to have to change sights out on.
I had the same issue with Glock 43, and no matter how hard I tried or changing ammo, it was the same result.
I have this same issue with my Springfield Hellcat. My buddies have also shot my Hellcat and they are better shots then me. Yet, they hit low and left just like me.
Honest guys tryouts .I read more of other experts say same as you ..low and left ..my thinking is manufactured not correct straightness caliber ed wrong ????
Mu guess it is a sight issue. If not, there may be some misalignment in the mechanism. That would suck.
Mine is shooting low left and is not just me shooting it. Its frustrating
Tight group so the barrel is good. Gotta be the sights
I’m not sure what it could be
Lol that’s a dishonest answer from a gun expert. If the gun is shooting all over the paper in wild groups that’s an actual accuracy issue. You even admitted in the video it could be solved with a red dot. Fix the sights, or replace them. These issues are easily resolved, and issues with new firearms are common out of the gate.
low left for me as well.
Thanks for making the video and saving me and others $500.
I was going to buy one but after seeing your video and reading reviews, now I'm looking else where. I really wanted to like this gun cause I think the FN 509 is a well made full size 9mm and still considering getting one.
I've got two Reflex's, I thought both were shooting low left... They were not, it was my grip....
Good to know. Can you please clarify what grip you used?
@@hixnada8278 I think it up to the shooter. For me, the grip of my support hand was critical to not pull left and low. I run weapons lights on all 3 and I use the light like folks use those gas pedals, my hands are to large for those gas pedals, so I use my lights. BTW, I have added a 3rd Reflex to my collection now. I really like that trigger.👍
@@CookieMonster_1969 Three Reflex’s? That’s awesome. Don’t feel the trigger is too light safely carry? Seems a lot of folks are saying wait for the manual safety version if it ever comes out.
@@hixnada8278 In a proper holster, no. The trigger is protected from being pulled.
Although, that being said, I am not willing to appendix carry. I carry at the 4 o'clock, in a secure Kydex holster. 👍
Damn I hit the left nostril was aiming for the right. 🤦♂️
This is a barrel fitment issue not a sight issue. New sights would be a bandaid on the problem
Lol it’s so obviously a sight issue. I’m not sure why so many people in the comments along with this review consider it accuracy issues 😂. FN should have much higher standards in customer support to get this corrected. Sig had issues with the 365, and made the corrections. A red dot would be the answer, but co witness is a must. So if new irons need to be purchased that would be my suggestion if FN won’t make it right.
I agree. This is a common theme on Sig forums...."Why does my...shoot low?" Most of the time, it's the combat hold, sometimes, the wrong combination of front and rear sights.
I'm this case, I wonder if they understand that "combat hold" means the dot on the front sight is your POI when your sights are aligned. You place the dot on what you intend to shoot, not just the front sight. A lot of people think "6 o'clock" hold is "sights on target," so when they go to what they believe is a "combat hold" with a "center hold" and are still too low on their hold.
As far as the shooting left, part, yeah, seems like some drifting is in order. I had a Sig P229 that consistently shot left. I thought it was all me,til I got a new one, I sent to GrayGuns, because I wanted the legion trigger in the classic Sig bobtail frame. When that one came back, it came back a tack driver. I thought it was a grip issue with me, as the P229 grip is a little narrow for me. When I shot the GrayGuns upgraded one, I decided to change the sights on my old one. I marked the slide for the placement of the old sights and measured. With the sight on you couldn't tell, but with it removed, and just the lines, you could see, the rear sight was off center. I measured it, again and instead of placing the new sight in the same position as the old one, I placed it centered..I went to the range and brought my drifter to fine tune, but I didn't need to. It was dead one center all the way out to the bullet trap (20-25yards).
I think those sights need some drifting. That's essentially what is going to be done with a red dot.
Mine shoots low left too!
I figured that I couldn’t have been the only one
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channelmine shoots low left as well looking for a fix
@@Bstoy21 Same here. Just bought one and it shoots well group but low left. It's defintiely not a one off issue or the shooter.
Mine as well...my Halosun is maxed out to its right limit and still not 100% zeroed! What a joke...doesn't even seem a call to FN will be of any use after reading what their response has been to everyone else! WTH
Watched the review by honest outlaw and his was the same as yours low and to the left.
Reference to the FN REFLEX has FN attempted to correct the problem of left to low pattern, or are they still saying it is the shooter? They say use the combat sight but that does not improve the group. The vice will still not shoot any better group. FN will lose on this pistol unless they become honest. Your life depends on the pistol you carry. FN be honest!
Also FN, come clean with the extractor issues as well. Many people with FTF issues, me included. Just say you messed up, shave down our extractor pins, and apologize and compensate us for doing the QC you should've done.
Honestly, I should've just bought the 43x or 48. Would've saved money and time.
I bought one today. Maybe I am screwed.
nothing wrong with the accuracy. hits same spot every time. sights are just off
I wish FN would admit it, but bureaucracy holding them back for some reason.
Mine shoots great! Have you considered operator error as the issue you’re having?
I could be but if you saw my original video I’ve totally ruled that out
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel which is incorrect, they shoot fine.
Just realign the sights to a center hold from the combat hold like all the other micro pistols out there then put a cowitness style dot or just go dot. Problem solved.
O noo!!!!! Its the end of the world you might have to push ur sights !! 😂😂
😂 Agreed. Windage was not problem, elevation on the other hand. And if it’s doing that at 21 feet what would it do at 75 feet.
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel at 75 it would probably be right on as far as elevation
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel fn sights it firearms in with 124 nato at 25 yards same with Springfield
@@mikes8915 this is what is wanted to see, It matters what the distance and round the sights were dialed in at. With how tight the groups are i doubt its a bad barrel.
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel75 ft? You know this gun wasn't created to shoot that far. It's a Micro pistol. Show the reflex some love and shame on FNH for not making sure the sights are zeroed.
Not an accuracy issue..... A sight issue as pointed out by others. Put a red dot on it and try again.
I have no accuracy issue with this firearm
Nice gun though
So it's not accuracy, the groups are good and consistent. The barrel is probably ok. Did it occur to you that it could just be a sights issue.
Seemingly their customer care s*cks.
Why not just adjust the sights? I mean it is a micro 9. It's not a combat gun so it's more of a get the f off me gun then a precision firearm.
Shoot it like a revolver one hand
That’s about the only thing I didn’t do. Lol
@@Guns_and_Outdoors_Channel try it and see how good it is.
Put a red dot on it and stop crying lol
Adjust your signts, big deal.
You can only adjust left to right dont fix the problem with shooting so low genius
Drift the sight big deal, almost every gun I own I’ve had to drift sights a tad, move on dumbest thing to make an entire video about, accuracy and 30 ft is silly, lost high end guns start accuracy claims at 25-50y (75-150 ft) drift the sight move on.
No. It’s the wrong size rear sight, drifting won’t account for it shooting so low.
@@KennyRodgers930 distance will, was it sighted for 7 yards?
@@KennyRodgers930are they’re any alternatives rear sights that fit ?
this is my first fn. I, haven't shot it yet. I am a cz guy who loves the feel of a hammer trigger. This platform just makes sense for me to love. I hope I dont have this low and left shit🥲
Put a red dot on it and stop crying lol