Mercedes S-Class S500 vs Porsche Panamera 4S Executive LWB comparison REVIEW!
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- Опубліковано 28 тра 2024
- This is our in-depth comparison review of the Mercedes S-Class S500 AMG-Line (V223) vs the Porsche Panamera 4S Executive LWB. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 How S-Class and Panamera are comparable
01:53 Length and wheelbase
03:16 Rear axle steering
03:30 Rear and exhaust
04:25 Exhaust sound
04:35 Engines R6 vs V6
05:53 Interior Mercedes S-Class AMG-Line
08:15 Cockpit overview S-Class V223
10:55 Instruments, Head-up-Display, MBUX infotainment
13:17 Rear executive seating S-Class
16:22 Trunk comparison S-Class vs Panamera
18:12 Porsche Panamera 4S interior
19:24 Cockpit overview Panamera Executive
20:39 Instruments, HUD, infotainment PCM 5.0
21:37 Panamera executive rear seating
23:35 Driving Mercedes S-Class S500 motorway with acceleration
31:40 Countryside driving and fuel economy
32:11 Agile driving S500
34:13 Driving Porsche Panamera 4S motorway with acceleration
41:23 Agile driving Panamera 4S Executive (LWB)
43:07 Mercedes vs Porsche - who wins?
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00:00 How S-Class and Panamera are comparable
01:53 Length and wheelbase
03:16 Rear axle steering
03:30 Rear and exhaust
04:25 Exhaust sound
04:35 Engines R6 vs V6
05:53 Interior Mercedes S-Class AMG-Line
08:15 Cockpit overview S-Class V223
10:55 Instruments, Head-up-Display, MBUX infotainment
13:17 Rear executive seating S-Class
16:22 Trunk comparison S-Class vs Panamera
18:12 Porsche Panamera 4S interior
19:24 Cockpit overview Panamera Executive
20:39 Instruments, HUD, infotainment PCM 5.0
21:37 Panamera executive rear seating
23:35 Driving Mercedes S-Class S500 motorway with acceleration
31:40 Countryside driving and fuel economy
32:11 Agile driving S500
34:13 Driving Porsche Panamera 4S motorway with acceleration
41:23 Agile driving Panamera 4S Executive (LWB)
43:07 Mercedes vs Porsche - who wins?
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You sound creepy 😩😩😩😩😩
How was the fuel economy of panamera. Sorry maybe i missed it
Hands down, best reviewer ever. I hated how so many channels chose not to criticize the Merc's interior.
Thanks Kyle!
There's alot of lazy journalism around the S-Class, always has been.
@@cockshieldas a big Mercedes fan it truly is very deceiving to subscribers and non subscribers of course but I’m sure they often do it because Mercedes incentives them to in some way only speak good for the most part
Two iPads on the dash of the Mercedes makes it look soooo cheap. Unbelievable for such an expensive flagship car. Big step backwards.
I agree - too junky. They lost some of the simplicity, functionality, & elegance. But I'd still take MB over porsche
I agree, as does the stupid glued on front sensor plate
Trying to be a tesla
100% agree
Agree. Nothing looks cheaper than that tacked on driver's display.
Love Panamera's classic, smart and sporty interior. Merc's interior is overwhelming and an overkill.
Can’t agree more 👍
the mercedes looks like a fantastic car, love the interior. However, I'd go for the Porsche
In switching to the '22 Porsche Panamera, there is no comparison. It's a Porsche. It has that rock-solid luxury feel that is appropriate for a $100-$250K vehicle. It is an engaging vehicle, one that has precise driving and sweet exhausts. It's a car meant for driving. You go on their configuration page and option it out to your hearts (and wallet) extent. The Mercedes, Audi, etc., they are meant for comfort. Yes they serve as status symbols, but they're meant for chauffeuring. So much cost, and effort, is put into the back seats, isolation. Press a button and all the blinds come down, isolating yourself from noise, society as you comfortably get a massage and stretch your legs. In the Porsche, the driver can have fun when they want, and then when hauling around kids, family, whatever, have it be a normal luxurious upscale car.
I definitely choose Panamera. Looks great. It is comfortable and sporty and it is Porsche :).
I honestly love both of these cars. I think I'd go for the Porsche, though, since I imagine it's more performance-oriented than the Mercedes.
I miss "Full HD, full screen, and full length... Let's go!" ... That aside, I definitely would have expected you to go with the Porsche before I clicked on the video, but I can see how the S Class is better at what it does best than the Panamera. Of course we would all take a Porsche 911 or 718 over a "sports car" Mercedes... but for luxury, Mercedes wins.
thanks! Been a tough choice indeed but such an interesting experience also for me personally!
I miss full HD, full screen and full length, let’s go as well…….
Me too
I value his intellect and integrity over his showmanship. In my opinion, ad-like 'devices' always suffers 'wear out' over the long run. I prefer the refreshed and sublime persona. As a tangent, I am Mercedes biased emotionally, so take 33.3 percent off my opinion and objectivity.
Hello. I'm a Korean. In Korea, the channel is being introduced under the name of AutoSense. But waiting for the translated version is dizzying, so I ran like this. haha !
If there's only one thing Corona has done well, it's brought us all over the world closer. Now I see good content like this every day as if it were a meal. ㅋ
This video seems to be of great help to those who are conflicted between the Panamera and the S-Class, but it makes them fall into trouble again. Because both are attractive.
After many conflicts, now I want to give the S-Class a victory. This is because the S-Class is a full-change model. Of course, if you consider the rear seats first, it goes without saying that it is overwhelmingly superior. It doesn't even need to appear until the Maybach version. This is because the Panamera long body is the same size as the S-Class short body model. I got help from Google Translate, so please forgive me if it's a bit strange. sorry ^^
Thank you so much for your comment and great that you are enjoying both the original and the korean channel!
Mercedes for luxury and Porsche for driving experience
Wow probably the best review I've ever seen, you give proper pros and cons and cover small things others usually miss 👏
Thanks!! Please share and welcome back here at any time :)
I always wanted to do this comparison, and even in advance, here in the community we have discussed a lot about it. You said: This needs to be solved! So we're solving the question right here =)
Glad you did it Thomas. Superb comparative review, think you've become the best at these already.
thanks so much, feel free to recommend =)
Just as with the cars, also content gets better and better. And where better to make this parallel than on a video where S-Klasse is presented. I think also Autogefühl got step by step at S-Klasse level. Keep up on this level, it is a pleasure to watch!
Always a delight watching one of your videos. I particularly loved this comparison.
I'm enjoying each and every video when it comes out, they are a true refreshing sight to be seen amongst countless others on this platform. Everything feels so relaxed and natural and yet it has a dose of professionalism but not too much for viewer to feel it has been corporated/advertised. Genuine constructive criticism is much appreciated and often missed by others in fear of losing future potential press vehicles. Thank you Thomas and to your camera guy/team for bringing us the latest and greatest of automotive journalism, cheers
highly appreciated Milos!
Nice comparaison, always very informative. For me it's all about the driving and bought a 2021 Panamera 4s e-Hybrid, never considered the S class, I now have my dream car !!!
Great review Thomas, I'd skip both these behemoths as a personal choice. But still can't skip Autogefuhl.
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If buying a large luxury car, I'd go with the S-CLass.
nice comparison of Autogefühl, from Vietnam with love 😍😍
thanks all the best to u!
While a porsche may seem more of a sports car, you have to remember it shares platform with the bentley continental gt, which is a heavy autobahn luxury cruiser... So this comparison is very relevant.
I chose the Porsche Panamera 4S e-hybrid sport turismo and I love it!!! In papaya metallic with cohiba interior - it is very classy
Thomas is a suite gentleman in disguise 🤓. The way he passed that old bmw. I wish I had autobahn here too 😀 I m still struggling between Cayenne and Panamera
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Take the Cayenne, it’s seating position is better
Panamera 4 Executive has evry thng
1. Design
2. Space
3. Handling
From NYC. Revisiting your review from 1 year ago. Great comparison. I sat in a friend's Cayenne SUV and the seat was comfortable. I read the Pana's seat was firmer. A BAD habit from manufacturers, thinking sportier seats SHOULD be stiffer. NO. This got started because true race cars strip out any weight, including padding. But the Pana is GT - Grand Touring. Thank you for the real world review.
👍 cheers !
Great job on this Thomas. I have to say I was surprised to see the amount of piano black plastic in both of these flagship vehicles considering something like a Genesis G80 have figured out how to have no piano black plastic. The touch capacitive buttons in the S Class would drive me up a wall. Honestly not a fan of either of these offerings but would go Panamera if it had to be one or the other.
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@@autogefuehl can you review genesis?
Great review as always. But I actually dont understand how the MB interior layout is more "evolved" either.. as you called it.. To me it has devolved. They have removed important things..
How is that a step forward in any way? I will never understand how just slapping 2 iPads on a dash is somehow a step forward. I can glue a big screen on the dash on any old car too.. It doesnt look good.
Touch screens are used where there is not enough space for all the real buttons you would need. Its a compromise. But no one would replace their computer keyboard with some touch variant just because its more "modern"...
Agreed. The screens in the MB look like an after-thought like the engineers remembered it needed them after the car was put together.
Not mention how much plastic there is in the new MB S class...it's definitely a huge step forward comparing to previous S model.
@@IOT4747 I havent felt the materials in either one of them. But if it resembles the E or C class its a catastrophe compared to old MBs.
Design/layout wise its a huge step backwards compared to the old one. They removed things.. and then just slapped 2 screens on the dash.
Looks ridiculous.
The lighting is cool, sure. But that's just for show. Has little real value. Might be fun the first weeks. Until you have impressed all you friends with it. Then you will probably turn it off. Or at least turn it dim yellowish if that's even possible..
But as I mentioned. MB used to be a brand for grown ups..
@@martinsvensson6884 , can’t agree more!
@@martinsvensson6884 , i had opportunity to see the new C class...totally disaster...not to mention only 4 cylinders...definitely a huge step backwards...
How is looking a your smartphone while driving illegal, but now car manufacturers build in giant smartphone screens with the same functionality and using those while driving is totally fine. That's how you know German street rules are full of it
yap...
Precisely my point.
Not true. The infotainment systems of the cars have pretty much no distraction functions. And if there's something, like an internet browser for example, they are usually disabled when the car is in motion. Comparing it to a smartphone is absurd.
On top of that. In my country, if you are using your smartphone calling someone during driving, its illegal and you have to pay a fine. But if you call someone from the screen of your car, its fine. Looking at your cars screen isnt illegal, but looking at your smartphone screen is illegal. Either automobile manufacturers are smart, or the people who make the law are dumb.
@@emiliospowerballer1441 u can tell the car to do the calling for you without having to press a single button
Tes vidéos sont toujours aussi agréables à regarder. Bravo et continue
Merci beaucoup!
Nice comparison and outfit as always Thomas!
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Very interesting, thanks Thomas
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Love the original idea for a comparison! Next up, S Class Vs. EQS...? 🤔
I also really have to commend Thomas and the channel for adjusting to the new style of videos well. I was skeptic at first but you're just getting better and better with every video!
highly appreciated! Extensive EQS content is coming up :)
Was looking for comparison between these two. F***in lucky. Amazing content. Very helpful
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And btw, truly excellent comparison. Ty.
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Useful and rare look at executive premium packages.
The needed test, however, is from the perspective of the actual buyer who would be sitting in the back.
Please try and arrange this for the next time you review executive lwb cars.
Great comparison though.
Thank you for your video, you share it very well, wish you always be healthy and happy
Thank you very much, U2
Hey Thomas, when is the video on the 4 series gran coupe coming out? Thank you for the amazing comparison as always.
Thanks! Hard with access to BMW at the moment due to Corona, but we ll try as soon as possible!
S class comfort always comes first.
From NYC. Your best head-to-head comparison yet; seat comfort, driving dynamics, road feel, button functions while driving, etc. I am coming from Lexus LS. I want comfort but have been looking for more engaged driving. But ultimately the car is transporting me in urban/suburban environments, not roads I can take advantage of handling. I agree with your final decision
yeah!!!Thomas-really nice job-testing those VIP luxury kfz....my decision is those MB S class-long version-to cruise along the beautiful Adriatic coast in Croatia!greetings from Hrvatska.nice holidays to you Thomas and the whole Autogefuehl team.this is holiday when you test those vehicles!!!nice job....amazing-those ambilights in the S class!64 colours of course...
cheers!
Both are MY DREAM CARS
🙏 AMEN
Go for the V8 if you're buying an S Class The smoothness & refinement is an uncomparable Good comparison review
Cheers!
Wonderful comparison. I was waiting for S63 AMG - but the W223 interior is horrible compared to previous gen W222. So went with Panamera GTS (V8). Taking more than 7 months .. the wait is just too much now.
+1.. Another Autogefuhl gem. Autogefuhl Peak !! .. The Mercedes S500 inline 6 cyl is straight-up contemporary and refined. . That,, and the S500 is library silence with every motion; Luxury.. Yes, yes what was MB thinking with the nonsensical touch-haptic switch gear steering wheel? (cost-cutting) .. Our '22 MB E-450 All-Terrain has this ....
Great review as always 👏 when you test executive relax position you should take off your shoes
Cheers!
Thank you Thomas 😊
you re welcome!
Such a great honest review! Great job 👌🏻
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Definitely the Merc never disappoints.
Had an accident a while back and had to get a hire vehicle until mine was fixed. The insurance company got me a Mercedes C class. Car was fun to press the gas pedals and had interesting functions build in, however... Them capacitive touch point were just nothing but nightmare
Great, Thomas.
Having owned a 2019 Panamera 4, without ever owning (yet) an S Class, believe me when I tell you, there is no comparison. I’d take the S Class every day and twice on Sunday. And I’m a Porsche fan, currently own a 2021 Cayenne GTS and love it. The tech alone on the MB runs rings around the Porsche.
Cayenne makes up for the lack of seating comfort in the panamera 👍
I would disagree owning a '22 Porsche. The S was great if huge tablets and comfy seats is your thing. If you want a 911-oriented sports sedan. No comparison to having sports-car dials, beautiful 911-type driving dynamics, turning that key and hearing the car roar to life. If you want comfy and isolated outside, go Mercedes. If you're a bit more sport-oriented at heart, yet want all the luxury of an executive car, go Porsche. I have no doubt I'll go Mercedes when I'm 60's+ but I have many years until that point.
I luv Mercedes. Currently drive one. I would go with the S class. But wish it was more stylish in the rear with the Lights
The Mercedes needs to go back to the W126 cockpit; even after all these years still one of the best driving positions, with beautiful forms, and large, tactile buttons right where your hand falls
Mercedes Benz S Class 500 looking very beautiful Inside and Out.
Can you do a video on G90 vs S560 vs Porsche Panamera Executive
I recently test drove the ID4 and I understand the appeal of the capacitive buttons. They do (potentially) provide more flexibility, especially with VW's sliding feature. They're also more likely to last longer. Buttons and knobs wear out, especially if you (or your children) touch things with messy hands. These capacitive buttons, however, will practically last forever. However Merc's glitchy/faulty buttons shown in this video are inexcusable.
Capacitive buttons wont last forever i think
Sir xbox and playstation went AWAY from capacitive, returning to physical.
First hand owner.
This review helped me decide to stay with the Sport Turismo version of the Panamera I have been planning to order when there is an available allocation in a few months. I had been thinking of instead going with the similarly priced Panamera Executive for its much better rear seat accommodations. This video reminded me that my priority is the best driving experience. The 14-way adjustable front seats were very comfortable during a test drive and I hope they will be similarly comfortable on long trips. I don't find the S-class Mercedes at all appealing due to it's clownish interior. Past Mercedes I've owned attracted excess and sometimes very negative attention. I doubt that many people will even know what a Panamera is.
U re welcome! Please recommend us 😎
I personally think those little pillows on the head rest look ridiculous. If you want to take a nap, go home and go to bed.
They are different beasts, wouldn't cls amg be more comparable?
@@pozytywniezakrecony151 Well in terms of pricing and interior accommodations, the Panamera in this video is more similar to the Mercedes in this video. The CLS is substantially smaller and has much less rear legroom than a Panamera LWB. I decided not to order a Panamera when I got an allocation in August 2022 due to parts shortages that likely would have affected my build. I instead bought a similarly equipped in-stock Cayenne which has proven to be more practical than a Panamera.
Nice video very detailed. The S Class I would take home because it fullfill the most in terms of luxury and innovation. Its interior is way ahead of any other car on the market. The Panamera is a nice car but it is more E class than S class. The interior feels much older. What I don't like about its interior is the plastic part between the door panel the upper part of the bench. That is very cheap. Maybe the next Comparison would be S73 e vs Panamera Turbo S E hybrid.
Cheers!!
the v.a.g. is gorgeous inside and out
not too keen on the other
I bought a Panamera. Porsche>Mercedes in driving dynamics, prestige, speed, driving experience. Mercedes>Porsche in comfort, luxury, cloud-like, relaxation. That's why they're such great chauffeur cars. If you want in the drivers seat, there really is just one choice in the segment for sports-car level fun which is Porsche. Both BMW and Mercedes caters to everyone (c/3, e/5, s/7), whereas Porsche generally caters to the $100K+ exclusively in their cars. They integrate 911 DNA into the Panamera, and it's a fun experience from first turning the "key", no push-buttons here.
Panamera LWB is not a match for S-Class LWB for sure but at least it brings a sporty alternative to the market.
Fantastic and comprehensive review. My heart says Porsche but my head says Mercedes. Seems like Porsche have made a very basic error with the seats, and no matter how good it drives, ultimately it's a deal breaker. I'm not entirely convinced by the new lay out of the Mercedes interior, just seems that the technology isn't functioning as it should. Maybe the 7 series is the way to go?
Good thoughts. As a chauffeur, SClass it is. As a self-driver, A8 and 7-Series need serious consideration:
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@@autogefuehl S63 for the owner/driver?
Untertürkheim vs Zuffenhausen! Though choice, I take the one with pistons from Mahle in Bad Cannstatt :)
The AMG version of the S-class is actually longer than the mentioned 5,29 meters.
That length only applies to the normal version.
The AMG line is 5,32 meters long.
That length is just defined by spoiler overhang
Which one has better interior quality and ride quality?
You can have both , job done 👍
Wow that rear steering from the S-class... looks like a propper forklift
Capacitive buttons is the future & are very functional.
I definitely choose the Panamera
S-Class is much more beautiful, especially interior. It is like car from the future compared to Panamera. No brainer for me.
Damn the capacitive buttons!
Indeed!
I'll take the Porsche in GTS form.
Thomas blue is beautiful!
A Mercedes S is just too big of a car, for me. An E class is more a car for me. BUT, somehow Panamera, is just perfect 😀
Don't ask me, how come? I don't have an answer 🤷♂️
thanks for comparing the Panamera with a real competitor! cause the A7, AMG GT 4-door and 8-Series aren't the Panameras competitors🤦🏼♂️
Thanks! I thought a long time about this and also did a survey in advance, and your verdict was: This needs to be solved! - thus I did :)
@@autogefuehl it was actually clear right from the beginning, just think about the first gen Panamera: it was based on the VW Pheaton and Audi A8 D3, so of course it’s competitors are also the Mercedes S-Class and BMW 7er. otherwise they would have made the Panamera on the same platform as the A6 back in the days. and A7, GT 4-door and co are based on the A6, E-class and co, so of course they don’t compete in the upper class and are in the upper middle class. the Panamera was and will always be a car from the upper class like the S-Class, 7-series, A8, LS and Quattroporte
@@autogefuehl btw bring back the old intro, but now it should be „please join us in 4k, full screen and full length, leeet‘s go!“😇
Good point
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I think the S-class 2013 models have more legroom in the back. I sat in a 2016 and it was super cramped compared to the previous bodystyle. I don't consider them long wheel base anymore.
I'd go for EQS over the S Class and the Plaid over the Panamera.
Quiet, smooth, quick and heavy electric drivetrains really shine in this segment.
Both the Panamera and the S500 are phenomenal cars, but not that appealing anymore with electric alternatives around.
What if you live in Russia? Or the middle east, where electric cars aren’t so common and charging stations are almost nowhere to be found?
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The big screens and piano plastic really does look like cheap shit lol
More so, in the Maybach where the grille slats are also plastic.😔
@@monishartwani8418 it is in aid of pedestrian safety…
Yes S-Class. That is after they give us some real tactile buttons and knobs back. You hit the nail on the head holding Mercedes to the fire on the Haptic Touch sensing buttons completely missing the mark. It is unacceptable at this price point for you to hit a button like you did 8 times to get it to do what you wanted which should have happened on your first try without ever thinking about it again. I hope they bring back some real buttons and switches to round out this great product. Excellent comparison.
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14:22 that just broke my heart 😭
In answer to your question the German I go with is *Benz.*
Consoles displacing the mid seat in back an eternal turn off. Executive chauffering will not lure me. So a divergent reason from your own.
Other hand like standing out and may take its rival despite the Merc more special interior.
For me the choice fully depends on the engine.
Panamera any day. From a ..... Panamera owner 😉. Unless you're chauffeured, that is.
Haptic touch is the worst thing since piano black interior..
Agree
thanks
I love this video and all man, but s class is s class.. porsche is more sporty and s class luxury
Is the AMG Steering wheel not available in the USA? I do not like the regular steering wheel of the new one. The 2014-2017 S class had the clown looking steering wheel - ugh. Hmmm watch this.
Both vehicles are perfect. The decision would be very difficult.
Facelift range rover review next please?
Thomas is exactly the type of “Men age like fine wine”
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Porsche Panamera is faster than the Mercedes S-Class
it depends on the engine, and the the AMG versions of the S-Class aren't even out yet
would be interesting to see the Panamera goes against BMW 8 GC
I guess most people would go for the Porsche Panamera, if they have the budget to buy only one of these two cars for themselves or their family of up to four people in total. This is because both sedans at a similarly price, Porsche is a tier higher in terms of rarity and exoticness (eg the cheapest Merc is an A Class but the cheapest Porsche is a Macan which is significantly more expensive, meaning there are more people out there owning a Merc branded car than those owning a Porsche branded car). Also, Merc S Class is known for its luxuriousness and driving/seating comfort. Porsche cars are known for their performance and speed, so it gives you more bragging rights when you drive a Porsche, eg I can go faster than you, etc. And when you spend that much money on a car, you want to stand out and have that edge over those cars owned by your friends and relatives. Porsche Panamera can give you more of that than Merc S, while not sacrificing too much luxuriousness and practicality.
S class needs a review while being driven
Wieder mal ein toll gelungenes Video, vielen Dank für den Einblick.
Eine Frage an Thomas:
Dadurch das du unterschiedliche Autos testest, wie gehst du damit um öfters auf "animal skin" sitzen platz zu nehmen?
Ich bin auch ein Veggie Bruder und beim konfigurator wähle ich natürlich die Kunstleder Variante. Haben uns nun aber den Traum eines gebrauchten bmw F36 Gran Coupé erfüllt, in der Reihe gab es leider noch keine Kunstleder alternative und nur sehr selten alcantara/Stoff. Wie ist deine Sicht dazu? Ist das ein K.O. Kriterium bei der Fahrzeug Suche für dich privat? Vorallem bei Old & Young-timern wirds da ja leider auch wieder schwierig, was mich traurig macht als fan der 90er BMWs.
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Vielen Dank! Und super, dass du dir da auch zurecht Gedanken machst. Für mich stellt es den besseren Ansatz dar, alle Autos zu testen und dann entsprechend zu bewerten, die Möglichkeiten zu zeigen und zu erwähnen, was fehlt, als die die Wahl extrem einzuschränken. Den Erfolg, den wir in Sachen Nachhaltigkeit in den letzten Jahren hatten, spricht auch für diesen Ansatz. Bzgl. Gebrauchtwagen habe ich in der Tat auch die Tage noch mal drüber nachgedacht. Grundsätzlich wenn man in puncto Nachhaltigkeit in Ressourcenverbrauch denkt, dann ist natürlich das nachhaltigste Auto das, was bereits gebaut ist. Nichtsdestrotrotz ist es natürlich besser, wenn auch auf dem Gebrauchtwagenmarkt ein Auto mit Tierleder "abgestraft" wird und Autos mit tierfreien Bezügen besser verkäuflich sind, denn auch das steuert die Nachfrage. Ich würde natürlich auch aus rein praktischen Gründen nicht gerne im Sommer auf der glatten Oberfläche schwitzen wollen. Also: Ich kann verstehen, wenn man beim Gebrauchten nicht ganz genau hinsieht. Optimal ist es nicht, aber es macht nicht ganz so viel Unterschied wie die Entscheidung beim Neukauf. Mercedes Youngtimer bekommt man sehr häufig mit Stoff. Du hast Recht, bei BMW ist das schwieriger. Ich würde mir auch gerne noch nen E30 mit Stoff zulegen ;-)
Panamera was my dream car ever. Test drove a 2021 fully optioned one and the overall experience doesn’t even get close to the 21 s class. The ride was bumpy even though it was on 19 inches (my 21 530e is on 20 and the suspension handles potholes better), and there’s a surprising amount of road noise coming into the cabin (better than my 5 series, but not even close to the s class).
Yeah, the performance is there, but if you’re like me and don’t often go over speed limit there’s no need for that ( I also wouldn’t take it to the track more than once a year, so for me comfort and features > performance).
So disappointed, my dream car turned out to be just…..average.
Going from my 5 series into the panamera it didn’t feel like a 70k upgrade (sticker price for panamera was 140k).
However going from it to the s class it felt like a much higher upgrade than the 58k diff in price (s class was priced at 128k)
Hopefully merc goes back to the normal buttons
they over did it
It was an easy choice I would take both.
New S Class seems to be the least most relaxing car in the world right now.
Seriously, even if it had better seats, why would anyone ever take the Porsche over the Mercedes?!
I'm waiting for Cayenne coupe Electric. It should be one of the best if not the best EV SUV on the market
And which one has more comfortable seats?
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