Great video. Thanks. I have the Turbo V8 model. I love it. There are a few issues I would like to add to your review. Anyone about to purchase a Panamera should understand that no matter how cheap you get one, if you can't afford the maintenance...Don't do it. A complete brake job at the dealer is over $3k. Plus there's an extra step called (Emergency Brake Adjustment) it can't be done by an ordinary mechanic shop. The dealer has to do it for $350. The Porches labeled battery cost $540. That same battery is only $199 at Autozone. Just be sure to use a memory saver when changing the battery. My cam adjusters blew before the recall. CarShield denied the legitimate claim. They refused to fix it. That cost me $4k to repair. I canceled them immediately. Thank God the part was recalled about a month later. So, the dealer reimbursed me $3k. A simple set of wipers cost $100 at the dealer but you can actually find better ones at Wal-Mart for less than $15 each. The rear window wiper does not come standard. Oil change is about $600 at the dealer but with a Durametric scanner ($300) you can do it yourself forever for $70 or less and reset the computer yourself. A thermostat sensor only cost $39 but cost $1000 to install it. CarShield denied that claim too. One spare key cost $450, complete headlight unit $1k per side but you can replace the bulbs yourself for $150, rear window replacement $3k. Here's the big one... A blown turbo engine cost $60k to replace. Hope that never happens. But if you can do your own maintenance, you can do it 2-to-10x cheaper. Factory Extended warranty is definitely worth it if you can afford it. Those aftermarket warranty companies like Car-Shield are rip-offs and are especially USELESS on a Porsche. I know this from personal experience. Regular mechanic shops are afraid to work on a Porsche. They act like they can't wait to work on your car...until they find out it's a Porsche. Most of them will simply say "Sorry we don't work on Porsche." They wouldn't even change the spark plug and coil pack on mine. I did it myself in less than 15 minutes. Launch control is great but you must be sure you even have launch control in the first place. It doesn't come standard. It requires you to floor the brake and the gas pedal at the same time then quickly release the brake to blast off. If you do this without the factory launch control software you will eventually destroy your both of your clutches. Remember the PDK transmission is basically a semi-automatic transmission with 2 clutches, 2 drive shafts and 2 gear boxes. PDK translates to "Porsche Double Klutch" in english can cost nearly $14k to rebuild. An alignment ""MUST"" be done at the dealer. Other shops will try to align it but they will fail. The alignment has to consider 3 different ride heights (not just the normal one) and there's no normal camber adjustment. You have to slide the entire engine sub-frame for that. Your local alignment shop won't do it but they will gladly charge you for a incomplete job. There are also two other available engines you didn't mention. The Turbo-Diesel and the Supercharged V6. The regular Turbo V8 model has 500 hp but the Turbo S model has 550 hp, bigger turbos plus 10 seconds of turbo Overboost. There's also an "Executive Model." It's has a 6 inch extended wheel-base that adds about 6 inches of extra leg room for the back passengers, and a refrigerator sits in the console between the rear seats. The DVD player only plays sound from DVD (no video). You have to purchase the rear headrest monitors for video or add an aftermarket Apple Carplay bypass hack from the Chinese to unblock video stream through the head unit. Without a bypass, only the rear passengers can see video. Overall, it is a great car. Fun to drive and I haven't lost a race against any 4-door car. Ever! People driving Comaro's and Mustangs intentionally take off slow from red lights. They dont want me to think they're trying to race. But whenever I'm in my big stupid Yukon, they take off fast as hell. There's only 3 things I don't like. All 3 are trivial. 1) There's no "lock/unlock" buttons on the doors. They're located next to the shifter. So if you're standing outside, you have to reach across the seats to unlock the doors. 2) The defrost only has one speed "full-blast" which is too loud to leave on. That's really annoying. 3) While you can open the trunk from the driver's seat, you can't close it from the driver's seat. The trunk closer button is located on the trunk. So, you have to get out and go to the back to press the close button. But I fixed that issue with another Chinese hack. Now the trunk button on the door will both open and close the trunk and as an added bonus, whenever you press the lock button on the remote it will not only lock the doors and arm the security system, but if you long press the remote lock button it will also automatically roll up all the windows, close the sunroof and fold in the mirrors. Would I buy another Panamera? Yes! Without hesitation. I love this car.
@@things4yougaming723 it's healthy to be skeptical and objective. The Prosche branded vehicles are listed on JD Powers as 5th most reliable cars in the world out of a list of about 50 auto makers a couple of years ago. So they are well built performance cars but when it's time for maintenance you will pay a premium at the dealer unless you can do it yourself or have a personal mechanic. Last year I had to have a coil pack replaced. The Porsche Dealer charged me $275 to install one. There are 8 total. The next time I had to replace one I did it myself. It only took 20 minutes and cost me only $55 for the part and $15 for the spark plug at the parts store for exact same part as the dealer. But I was only able to do it because I have my own $300 Durametric diagnostic scanner that told me #6 coil pack was bad. In other words, my maintenance cost is sometimes low because I have purchased the tool's to do some stuff myself.
Hellbent706 i'm looking for a GTS , as it is naturally aspirated ,i assume this is less problems that turbo just because the engine is not stressed with the big turbos. What do you think of this? Do you have any oil consumption?
I own a Panamera and love it . Make sure you find a really good mechanic who is certified to do Porsche. It will save you a tone of money other than going to the dealer. I have had my car 5 years recently got the starter fixed and replaced tires . That cost around 1500 for the starter & $400 per tire. but other than that I have had no major issues with the car . Got an oil change a month ago I only paid $150 with a private mechanic who is certified in doing Porsche as well as Audi, BMW, Tesla. I live in Scottsdale AZ . If you need a Porsche mechanic and don’t want to get hit with the high dealer tax I will be more than happy to shoot you info of the shop I go to.
Hi..Thanks for your post. I'm debating about purchasing a 2018 Panamera 4 that has 20k miles. Which, seems like a dream. But, worried about it being a "money pit". Any advice?
@@BlairBinion my car was used when I got it (2 years old) & I haven’t had any major issues just basic maintenance overtime. the best advice I have is to skip the dealer if possible and Research a Mechanic in your town who is certified to work on German engineered cars(Porsche in specific). As long as you do routine maintenance you should have no issues & you will save a tone of $. Im praying my car last another 2/3 years but when it’s time I will definitely be getting another one. I have a 2016 & it still looks and drives the way it did when I got the car. I originally was going to purchase a Maserati but something told me to go with Porsche I have no complaints. I use it as my everyday car. I’m originally from Vegas so I’ve driven it in and out a few times. Take my kids to and from school. I have an infant so it’s still spacious enough for his car seat. The trunk is pretty large His stroller, camper wagon, & groceries fit with no problem. It’s fun to drive & I always get compliments you will love it.
@@MrPhenixDante yes I do No major issues . I just got the brakes done and a new battery but that’s minor maintenance . I have 100k on it . I plan on keeping it till the 10 yr mark and trading it in for a newer model if I have to . But if not I’m keeping it and getting an suv . I absolutely love it. I go back and forth between Az and Vegas . I’ve driven it a few times and it still runs solid
Loved this video, have watched it several times. I bought a 2010 S model 1 1/2 years ago and It has been the a fabulous purchase. Most enjoyable car I have ever owned. Maintenance can be steep, but you have to find a local independent that works on Porsche's. Will save you 30-40%. Like any car though, change your fluids on time, brakes, tires and fix something when it goes so things don't pile up. My car runs better now than when I bought because of a little tender loving and care.
I had my share of German cars in the 1990s. Horrible quality control. Things broke that should never have broken(accelerator pedal linkage, rear hatch latch on a 928, HVAC on any German car), so I switched to Lexus and Acura products and never looked back. The Germans forget about the little things that make ownership pleasurable.
Thank you for this confirmation...I been readying a lot of good n bad reviews about this car. But like any other vehicles you just gotta keep up with the oil change, etcetera. And find a mechanic that spealized in these types of cars to saved yourself a lot of money. Thanks again.❤️🙏
Got my 2016 GTS model for 1 year now, 100k km on it and I love it. It had porsche approved warranty, which I now extended for another 2 years (for around 3.2k) and now I don't need to worry about 'big' unexpected repairs...
@@jkr1293 I can just tell you how it is in germany: when you buy a used porsche (max. 15 years old and under 200k km) the porsche center can do a 111 point check of the car. if the car passes the check, you can get new warranty on the car for 12/24/36 months. It doesn't matter if the car still had warranty when you bought it or not. You can always do that 111 point check and get new warranty. :)
@@WerdeOnlineErfolgreich true, i did the same in porsche centre in italy with panamera turbo 500HP, 57.900 km condition as new, fantastic car really, 1.700 euro/year or 3.200 2 years
Just thought I would throw my two cents in as well. I have owned my 2013 Panamera 4s now for about a year. Originally I didn't have any issues! I made sure to review all of the previous work and when I actually purchased the vehicle It only had 35k miles on it. So I didn't think I was going to run into issues quickly, which of course was my first mistake. Unfortunately, my air suspension (PASM) had leaks in my front two struts. This was a VERY pricy fix and has slightly turned me off to loving the car so much. I had to fork over $7,400 to fix the two front struts. The process was quick but the wallet was hit hard. Porsche also likes to encourage 30k, 40k, 50k, 60k+ tuneups. This can easily cost $1,500+ which is not ideal. Aside from that issue, I haven't experienced anything else and I would HIGHLY recommend the vehicle. Its driving is incredibly elegant and I can officially say I am a Porshe owner.
I'm actually searching around to buy one...I sees a lot with very low and reasonable miles.. What do you suggest I look for when buying one? Thanks any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
With any car, especially performance / luxury vehicles, it's always best to perform as much of your own maintenance / work as possible. Especially doing tune-ups with common hand tools. It can save so much money, and you learn more about the car.
2013 Platinum 4 with 49k miles. Still under CPO warranty and other than a broken dash clock, no issues. Love it. Added a 2001 911 Cab with 36k miles and for less than $60k total, I've got everything I need. Oh, and I probably wouldn't have these if I didn't do my own maintenance.
I want to make same combo :) i have now about 60.000k 💵 so i cant effort both so im considering to buy Macan gts or Panamera then next year 2000-2003 911 as a weekend car
Hey man! I’m interested in buying one, I have a couple questions if you don’t mind: - What model of Panamera (ie. S, 4S or Turbo)? - Has it had any problems?
Yea because they have had the same exact same interior for the last 15 years lol literally nothing has changed except drive train options people who buy these new are absolute buffoons
Great video, thank you...I'm a major car guy and pretty much got hooked and have owned only German cars since 1967 after spending a few years in Germany for Uncle Sam. I've basically owned Porsche's, Mercedes, BMW's, and Audi's. I had a 2012 Panamera 4s for many years and just loved it. The one thing I have learned through the years that in buying a new car, especially a Porsche, you took a major depreciation beating just pulling out of the dealership. With that in mind, I have decided to never buy a new car again. I was recently in the market for a new Toy and preferred the Panamera models of 2017 and newer due especially to the electronics update and the ability to have Apple Car Play. In my search, as much as I preferred the changed model in 2017, I came across a one-owner 2016 GTS with only 14,280 miles. The car is in MINT-like new condition. It is loaded with many options with a window sticker of $153,580. I was able to purchase this car that is four years old for only $67,250, how could I pass savings like that up...For me, the Panamera offers everything you would ever need in a car. It is an upscale all-around vehicle that is second to none. It offers luxury, comfort for four people, sports car handling, and all the power and thrust you'll ever need. Granted it doesn't have Apple Car Play but for $1,000 I'll have it installed in my radio. The only downside of the car is the maintenance expense is a bit high but for me, it's well worth it.....
im in the same boat, really want a 2017 but the price tag in Canada is 80-95k ...any thoughts on the major repair bills coming up in 2022 (ie 5 yr old Panamera)? Thanks
@@MStar10 Having been to the Porsche dealerships through the years, Ive spent $535 for an oil change, a bit over $ 1,000 for a 20K service and recall $2,400 for brakes. I get a kick out of the service advisor. When delivering the car for service it was very well noticed that they also receive spiffs or a commission on what the sell. In all the history of my visits they always say; “What Porsche recommends NOT what is actually required to maintain the warranty. I have found a German only car service center, Autohaus, here in Southern NJ. that has provided a service center that is very professional looks like and acts like dealer in all aspects except pricing. They are first class and the savings are astronomical. I have two other Porsche’s, and recently paid $235 for an oil and brake fluid change on a Cayenne and $875 for front brakes on. Macan GTS….I recommend you try to find a similar service center or mechanic in Canada….good Luck and enjoy the Porsche cars….just a funny after the fact; I recently talked to a gent that has a Mercedes GLC AMG 63. He said he has owned Porsches rhrouh the years and found Mercedes a bit less to maintain….imagine dropping to a Mercedes….Very funny….
@@jimgoldsmith8990 wow thanks so much for this detail. It really helps and I'll be sure to find a similar high quality repair shop. Just wondering have you owned any 2017-2019 panameras and what your experience re maintenance has been like? Are they a strain or just regular expensive expected repairs? So close to pulling the trigger :))
i have a 2012 with a techart bodykit. looks and drives amazingly. the only issue mine has is with the pcm system. it doesn’t activate the navigation mode and when its not activated bluetooth functionality also doesn’t work. luckily i can fix it by holding down the info button and restarting the pcm system. i basically do that every time i get in the car. another issue is when i stop at a redlight the car does the start/stop function and sometimes the cut in electricity results in the bose sound system to turn off and only the subwoofer stays working you can only hear the bass of the song that is playing when it happens and honestly its quite hilarious. fortunately that happens very rarely and when it does happen you can fix it by turning the engine off, opening the driver door, closing it and locking the car then wait 2 minutes then turn the car back on. love my panamera i have 180.000 km on it, never had an engine issue and I will not be selling it. its such a sensational car i have had so many memories with it.
Fantastic useful video. Thank you. I've owned 4 Porsches so far and I'm thinking of buying a 2011 Panamera Turbo soon. This video has helped me a lot. They really are beautiful machines!
I purchased my panamera in 2012 and I only have 37,000 mi on it today I had a scare because I only drive it in the summer time and it was sitting for a long time and it wouldn't start and it had a clicking sound but I became a Porsche mechanic and got on UA-cam and learned how to remove the battery myself and take it to get checked out that saved me over $1,500 going to the dealer and I didn't need a new battery it just needed to be charged. So I have lucked out so far on having any major issues with this vehicle but I also have a 2019 Cayenne that I special ordered so far nothing's wrong with that I only have $18,000 mi so I'm hoping not to have to many issues from either. I know they say don't buy a car if you can't afford to upkeep. But these dealers be trying to price gouge you.
I never was a Porsche fan until the creation of the Panamera I hated every 2 door Porsche every made until the facelift newer models they look a whole lot better now Im in love with the 4 door Porsche I plan on buying one soon
I have had a 2010 Panamera turbo over 7 years. The only major problem during that time, and 140,000 miles, is the air suspension. After the second failure, I replaced it with struts. Fortunately, I am able to do all my own basic maintenance, which saves thousands each year. Otherwise, we love this car, and pray the party doesn't end with a major failure to the engine or PDK.
Great video! I am considering buying one but am finding one thing bewildering … the number of prior owners these cars all seem to have. I saw a 2012 with only 24K miles and a clean Carfax that had 7 prior owners! A number of them have had a minimum of 2-4 owners in 40K miles. On a normal car, this says they are a maintenance nightmare and the car has been shuffled from one owner to another when the owner has had his fill of the bill. Is this a good assumption or do people just buy these as toys, drive them a year and move on to something else?
O Em G , I sees a lot of the same things. Low mileage but between 1-3 owners. Makes me wonder if it's worth buying one. Which I am looking and researching the best buy. One owner with low miles tells me that the previous owner couldn't afford the upkeep of just the basic repairs....Example an oil change, brakes or even tires...But when. I see three or four owners with low and reasonable miles that says something different. ..I like the Maseratis but I hear those cars looks good but like BMW'S once the warranty is up, all kinda things starts to go wrong...
I love the look of the original version the new one looks like the 9/11 which is boring and it looks like a typical sports car I wouldn't do a double take if I seen it come down the street but the ones before they changed the body, that's something to look at. It stands out from the crowd.
the panamera is the best sedan in my opinion honestly. some ppl complain about this car just like any other car. but porsche is the best car company overall. and the looks of the panamera are tremendous honestly. seems like ppl haven't try the panamera honestly.
Always thought it was odd how cheap these get on the used market. It always made me paused thinking they have to be a money pit of maintenance. Strange to hear doesn’t seem to be the case from this video.
@@MStar10 depends on what I was repairing. If I remember right, changing a new tire was around 450 usd. Oil maintenance was around 700 usd. I scratch the rear bumper once, the repair was around 430 usd. I live in China so it might be different from your bills.
And understandably so, these are very reliable cars for the most part as long as it’s past 2012, if you are afraid of maintenance it might be a good idea to get a really good extended warranty from companies like Toco or concord, or select auto protect, ( I have toco and they have been extremely good to me) and it’s good to find a good mechanic like Autohaus or CarPlus as the dealer is overpriced
Thank you for this post. I believe I'm ready to get one. I've been very hesitant in getting one because of that recall for the bolts. What is the yearly cost of maintenance/repairs for these vehicles?
Hello, the maintenance costs will really vary, but overall they're not bad. For me, it has been filters and oil changes. If you can DIY, you will save a lot. I wouldn't say it's more than any other car in the Panamera's class. They're very reliable, in my opinion. I wouldn't worry about the bolts, as long as the recall has been completed. Also, it's really only on the early 2010s-2012s. Thanks for watching.
How many miles/km's can you expect to put on one of these cars? I see a lot of the models for sale in my area are being sold around the 70-80000 km mark (42-48,000 miles). Makes me wonder why.
What are your thoughts on the engine and transmission of the 2015 Panamera S e-Hybrid. I believe it uses a Audi engine. How does it compare to a Porsche PDK?
Hi Suresh, yes that is correct. I prefer the PDK since it feels like a manual transmission that is being shifted by a expert hand extremely fast. It feels more nimble and sporty to me. I also prefer the way it shifts, even though it may not be as smooth as the regular automatic in the S E-Hybrid. I think that if you decide to get that model, you'll love it, and it does deliver great power and good fuel efficiency for large sedan. Being able to drive in electric only mode for up to 20 miles is nice, and you can drive up to 84 mph, which is great for the freeway. I hope this helps.
If you buy used from a Porsche dealership and the car is Porsche Certified Preowned with a warranty for 3 years with unlimited miles does this mitigate some of these worries mentioned above? Especially if the car is 2016 and 16K miles? Thanks!
Great video. Thanks!!! I plan to buy end of this year....my first Porsche 😀...any forum suggestions? Recommended trims? And I will be going from a 535 M sport pkg to a panamera...comments? Thoughts? Cheers
I recommend getting a GTS if you're into speed and fun. Although all models of the Panamera are great. In my opinion, it's a completely different vehicle to drive compared to your BMW.
What I have read here are fair assumptions. For example, the BMW X5M has two different tire sizes and only two companies on the planet make tires for that vehicle. So you are either buy expensive tires or real expensive tires. I know a German car mechanic and he says that changing all 4 tires will be upwards of $2500. So, yeah, cheap to pick up one of these beautiful German sports cars, but be ready to fork over some serious cash to keep it running. Sad, but true.
I have a 2014 Panamera Executive Turbo. Does anyone have advice for finding winter wheels and tires for this vehicle? Mine has non-ceramic brakes. Thanks to anyone that can help!
Never liked the saggy rear end. It ruin it for the rest which is really nice, classic Porsche. The new model with the connecting rear lights is something to crave for.
Also got car with three year warranty as the previous owner bought 3 year warranty. Also previous owner bought $3.5k Pirelli tires. For an oil change it cost around 400$ if you take it to Porsche factory. For me, I call one of the worker at the Porsche factory to come to my house for changing the oil for my car. I pay around 100$.
Great Video! I love my Panamera! Bought brand new in 2011. I did have the camphaser bolt issue but Porsche took care of me. Other than that just typical suspension replacement parts (shocks, springs, wheel bearings, recently cv boot tare).
And the air suspension compressor is known to have problems under cold weathers (-10 Celsius and below) and causes chassis failure which the compressor would need to be replaced
I have noticed the front air suspension does get a little noisyer in the winter months which drops to only 10 to 25 degree on average here in Alabama. Probably much worst in northern States. Keeping your car parked in home garage helps a lot. It clears up on its own right before spring. I never had a problem with my compressor and never I had to replace a air shock. Thank God! I was told the newer models have addressed that issue with updated air shocks.
dont buy one as a porsche mechanic at a main dealer these suffer with all sorts of problems rust being the main one and pretty much all the engines suffer with bad oil leaks also the transfer boxes like to fail very often they just are not worth it save yourself some cash and buy a bmw or audi
@@Simon-sv6qe I am actually looking to buy one as well...But it's really is shocking to see 2013-2019 models going for anywhere to $24k- $56k... Makes one wonder is getting one really worth it. Ik cars has basic wear and tear but I don't want to purchase one and 3-6mths I've started to have issues...But I really love these cars.. Used and brand,brand new!. But thanks for the advice. I'll definitely keep what you said in mind, when or if I decide to buy one.
@@Simon-sv6qe thanks for your input, im thinking of buying 17 ' so 4/5 yrs old...what are the major repair bills coming up - this would be really helpful !!
Mech Eng The PDK holds up really well and provides a much sportier feel than a standard automatic transmission. Engines are all mostly reliable, especially the face-lift (14-16) v6 models and the GTS.
Awesome and very informative vid! I'm about to grab a 2014 e-hybrid. All I'm truly wondering is, how are the maintenance costs? I've seen these cars reaching over 300k miles. Is this common? Thank you!!!
I bought a 2013 panamera 4 and it feels like brand new! I loved it so much that I bought each of my 2 daughters one as well for xmas!! They love them as well!!!!!👍
I will have to replace my coolant temperature sensor myself. Mine stills works fine right now but the computer says it's been going bad for the last 2 years causing check engine light to come on occasionally. The dealer wants $1000 to replace it. I think the sensor itself is only $38 plus a gasket or something simple. Requires removal of the entire intake manifold because they virtually buried the sensor under it. I do have the tools and confidence do it myself once I can find a clear detailed video of the procedure on UA-cam. The one video I seen on UA-cam skip procedure steps and thus created too many unknowns.
@@JermaineWare did you get a GTS? What year ? Any problems yet?overall opinion? I'm also looking for a GTS or 4s though i would like a gts with low mileage.
@@stevenjr6582 Yep got a 2013 GTS in 2015. Absolutely no problems whatsoever. Car is great, good size but when driving it feels like a coupe especially driving hard. Pretty amazing a car this size handles so well and 3.8 0-60 is no joke. EVERYONE love this thing around town and passengers have no complaints. If you get a GTS, you can't really do to much to it mod wise BUT, I just got a VR Racing tune which only add 25hp and 16pd of torque but the difference is very noticable and the shifts are MUCH better/smoother in Sport Plus mode (which you should always keep in!). Oh I didn't even mention the exhaust note (GTS)... ALL HEADS TURN.. ITS LOUD AND ANGRY!!!! Get the GTS, it is the perfect balance between a 4s and Turbo IMO.
I just sold my one year old MY2020 Mercedes GLC 400d (engine broke down after 15000 miles) back to the dealer and bought a 2011 Panamera Turbo in great condition for only half the price I still got from the dealer... what can I say - it is so much more car. Almost no use of plastic, feels like a luxury yacht on the road, drives like a supercar... I'm very happy - let's see how this holds up - but I know one thing for sure - lesson learned: I will never buy a brand new car again.
fellas i promise you. every single euro brand WILL have its share of problems. frequently. each time you bring it in , it will be in the shop for 4-7 days and minimum $1,200 each and every time. if you want to own a euro car and a sports model, be prepared to have $4k in throw away funds to support it. if you can swallow that fact, youre good to go.
Jesus Barrera , can you describe your experience with the gts? Did you have any problems ,oil consumption ,i'm very interested in the technical problems like engine transmission and overall reliability.
@@stevenjr6582 I Own a Panamera Turbo and they had to remove the whole transmission just to get to a damn screw. Wtf! I put the car in the shop just to fix a routine coolant leak behind the engine where I can't reach. This is common on older Panamera V8's but generally an easy fix for them. They initially removed the intake manifold to get to the leak but I guess this time that wasn't enough. They decided to removed the transmission without even asking. Maybe that's why it's no charge for the service. My car has been in the shop now for over 2 months. The first month was due to typical BS like waiting for O-rings to show up in the mail. Then they received the wrong parts. You know the routine. But overall, I'm still happy right now because they said there would be no charge for the removal of the transmission. That would have easily cost me another grand. And the loaner car they gave me is a brand new Porsche. We put the first 2k miles on so far. Great loner but I do miss my car. I can't wait to get it back.
I own a Panamera and Just got a Cayenne. I get the best of both worlds. I have the protection film on the front of my panamera. It is pricey but well worth it!
I also have a 2012 panamera that I bought new and then I bought a 2019 Cayenne and I put the protection clear coat on both of them. Great minds think alike
Can anyone comment on used prices and how they've risen over the past couple years? I was looking at 2014-2016, would like the S for a little more power, these in the 40-50k miles seem to be around $45000 give or take. I'm just wondering if this is WAY up from where they were before or if these have stayed pretty constant.
For some reason during the pandemic dry gulch of cars, luxury models went up way faster than other categories. 911s for example , went up exponentially. I assume this dragged along the Panamera, too.
Hello, the V6 in generally doesn't seem to have excess oil consumption. Generally, it's with the v8 models such as the S and Turbo. Owner's of newer 8cyl models seem to complain less about the oil consumption. Please note that some oil consumption is considered normal.
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Great video. Thanks. I have the Turbo V8 model. I love it. There are a few issues I would like to add to your review. Anyone about to purchase a Panamera should understand that no matter how cheap you get one, if you can't afford the maintenance...Don't do it. A complete brake job at the dealer is over $3k. Plus there's an extra step called (Emergency Brake Adjustment) it can't be done by an ordinary mechanic shop. The dealer has to do it for $350. The Porches labeled battery cost $540. That same battery is only $199 at Autozone. Just be sure to use a memory saver when changing the battery. My cam adjusters blew before the recall. CarShield denied the legitimate claim. They refused to fix it. That cost me $4k to repair. I canceled them immediately. Thank God the part was recalled about a month later. So, the dealer reimbursed me $3k. A simple set of wipers cost $100 at the dealer but you can actually find better ones at Wal-Mart for less than $15 each. The rear window wiper does not come standard. Oil change is about $600 at the dealer but with a Durametric scanner ($300) you can do it yourself forever for $70 or less and reset the computer yourself. A thermostat sensor only cost $39 but cost $1000 to install it. CarShield denied that claim too. One spare key cost $450, complete headlight unit $1k per side but you can replace the bulbs yourself for $150, rear window replacement $3k. Here's the big one... A blown turbo engine cost $60k to replace. Hope that never happens. But if you can do your own maintenance, you can do it 2-to-10x cheaper. Factory Extended warranty is definitely worth it if you can afford it. Those aftermarket warranty companies like Car-Shield are rip-offs and are especially USELESS on a Porsche. I know this from personal experience. Regular mechanic shops are afraid to work on a Porsche. They act like they can't wait to work on your car...until they find out it's a Porsche. Most of them will simply say "Sorry we don't work on Porsche." They wouldn't even change the spark plug and coil pack on mine. I did it myself in less than 15 minutes. Launch control is great but you must be sure you even have launch control in the first place. It doesn't come standard. It requires you to floor the brake and the gas pedal at the same time then quickly release the brake to blast off. If you do this without the factory launch control software you will eventually destroy your both of your clutches. Remember the PDK transmission is basically a semi-automatic transmission with 2 clutches, 2 drive shafts and 2 gear boxes. PDK translates to "Porsche Double Klutch" in english can cost nearly $14k to rebuild. An alignment ""MUST"" be done at the dealer. Other shops will try to align it but they will fail. The alignment has to consider 3 different ride heights (not just the normal one) and there's no normal camber adjustment. You have to slide the entire engine sub-frame for that. Your local alignment shop won't do it but they will gladly charge you for a incomplete job. There are also two other available engines you didn't mention. The Turbo-Diesel and the Supercharged V6. The regular Turbo V8 model has 500 hp but the Turbo S model has 550 hp, bigger turbos plus 10 seconds of turbo Overboost. There's also an "Executive Model." It's has a 6 inch extended wheel-base that adds about 6 inches of extra leg room for the back passengers, and a refrigerator sits in the console between the rear seats. The DVD player only plays sound from DVD (no video). You have to purchase the rear headrest monitors for video or add an aftermarket Apple Carplay bypass hack from the Chinese to unblock video stream through the head unit. Without a bypass, only the rear passengers can see video. Overall, it is a great car. Fun to drive and I haven't lost a race against any 4-door car. Ever! People driving Comaro's and Mustangs intentionally take off slow from red lights. They dont want me to think they're trying to race. But whenever I'm in my big stupid Yukon, they take off fast as hell. There's only 3 things I don't like. All 3 are trivial. 1) There's no "lock/unlock" buttons on the doors. They're located next to the shifter. So if you're standing outside, you have to reach across the seats to unlock the doors. 2) The defrost only has one speed "full-blast" which is too loud to leave on. That's really annoying. 3) While you can open the trunk from the driver's seat, you can't close it from the driver's seat. The trunk closer button is located on the trunk. So, you have to get out and go to the back to press the close button. But I fixed that issue with another Chinese hack. Now the trunk button on the door will both open and close the trunk and as an added bonus, whenever you press the lock button on the remote it will not only lock the doors and arm the security system, but if you long press the remote lock button it will also automatically roll up all the windows, close the sunroof and fold in the mirrors. Would I buy another Panamera? Yes! Without hesitation. I love this car.
Im looking at a 2013 gts but with all that maintenance is scareing me away lol
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@@things4yougaming723 it's healthy to be skeptical and objective. The Prosche branded vehicles are listed on JD Powers as 5th most reliable cars in the world out of a list of about 50 auto makers a couple of years ago. So they are well built performance cars but when it's time for maintenance you will pay a premium at the dealer unless you can do it yourself or have a personal mechanic. Last year I had to have a coil pack replaced. The Porsche Dealer charged me $275 to install one. There are 8 total. The next time I had to replace one I did it myself. It only took 20 minutes and cost me only $55 for the part and $15 for the spark plug at the parts store for exact same part as the dealer. But I was only able to do it because I have my own $300 Durametric diagnostic scanner that told me #6 coil pack was bad. In other words, my maintenance cost is sometimes low because I have purchased the tool's to do some stuff myself.
Hellbent706 i'm looking for a GTS , as it is naturally aspirated ,i assume this is less problems that turbo just because the engine is not stressed with the big turbos.
What do you think of this?
Do you have any oil consumption?
@@things4yougaming723 also here looking for a gts ,i think if the car was well maintained should not be an issue.
I own a Panamera and love it . Make sure you find a really good mechanic who is certified to do Porsche. It will save you a tone of money other than going to the dealer. I have had my car 5 years recently got the starter fixed and replaced tires . That cost around 1500 for the starter & $400 per tire. but other than that I have had no major issues with the car . Got an oil change a month ago I only paid $150 with a private mechanic who is certified in doing Porsche as well as Audi, BMW, Tesla. I live in Scottsdale AZ . If you need a Porsche mechanic and don’t want to get hit with the high dealer tax I will be more than happy to shoot you info of the shop I go to.
Hi..Thanks for your post. I'm debating about purchasing a 2018 Panamera 4 that has 20k miles. Which, seems like a dream. But, worried about it being a "money pit". Any advice?
@@BlairBinion my car was used when I got it (2 years old) & I haven’t had any major issues just basic maintenance overtime. the best advice I have is to skip the dealer if possible and Research a Mechanic in your town who is certified to work on German engineered cars(Porsche in specific). As long as you do routine maintenance you should have no issues & you will save a tone of $. Im praying my car last another 2/3 years but when it’s time I will definitely be getting another one. I have a 2016 & it still looks and drives the way it did when I got the car. I originally was going to purchase a Maserati but something told me to go with Porsche I have no complaints. I use it as my everyday car. I’m originally from Vegas so I’ve driven it in and out a few times. Take my kids to and from school. I have an infant so it’s still spacious enough for his car seat. The trunk is pretty large His stroller, camper wagon, & groceries fit with no problem. It’s fun to drive & I always get compliments you will love it.
Peace. Do you still have your 2016 panamera? How many miles? Any major faults? Thanks
@@MrPhenixDante yes I do
No major issues . I just got the brakes done and a new battery but that’s minor maintenance . I have 100k on it . I plan on keeping it till the 10 yr mark and trading it in for a newer model if I have to . But if not I’m keeping it and getting an suv . I absolutely love it. I go back and forth between Az and Vegas . I’ve driven it a few times and it still runs solid
Hey can you please tell me the shop you go to I really appreciate it @4thaluvofjay116
I picked up mine 2 weeks ago. Coming from a BMW 3 series, there is truly no comparison!
You still like it? Still going strong? I'm 6 4. You think it's a good fit for someone tall?
@@steves.auckerman5966 Yeah it's very strong. I'm 6'2 and it's the comfiest car for my back I have ever sat in. You are not going to have a problem.
@@davida5136 any mechanical issues so far?
Which version did you pick up?
Loved this video, have watched it several times. I bought a 2010 S model 1 1/2 years ago and It has been the a fabulous purchase. Most enjoyable car I have ever owned. Maintenance can be steep, but you have to find a local independent that works on Porsche's. Will save you 30-40%. Like any car though, change your fluids on time, brakes, tires and fix something when it goes so things don't pile up. My car runs better now than when I bought because of a little tender loving and care.
I had my share of German cars in the 1990s. Horrible quality control. Things broke that should never have broken(accelerator pedal linkage, rear hatch latch on a 928, HVAC on any German car), so I switched to Lexus and Acura products and never looked back. The Germans forget about the little things that make ownership pleasurable.
Porsches
Thank you for this confirmation...I been readying a lot of good n bad reviews about this car. But like any other vehicles you just gotta keep up with the oil change, etcetera. And find a mechanic that spealized in these types of cars to saved yourself a lot of money. Thanks again.❤️🙏
@@cyncyn3775is a 2010 Panamera turbo V8 a good buy in 2024?
Got my 2016 GTS model for 1 year now, 100k km on it and I love it. It had porsche approved warranty, which I now extended for another 2 years (for around 3.2k) and now I don't need to worry about 'big' unexpected repairs...
What do you mean you extended it another 2 years? was it a certified pre owned with a 2 year warranty then you added 2 additional years?
@@jkr1293 I can just tell you how it is in germany: when you buy a used porsche (max. 15 years old and under 200k km) the porsche center can do a 111 point check of the car. if the car passes the check, you can get new warranty on the car for 12/24/36 months. It doesn't matter if the car still had warranty when you bought it or not. You can always do that 111 point check and get new warranty. :)
@@WerdeOnlineErfolgreich super cool option
@@WerdeOnlineErfolgreich true, i did the same in porsche centre in italy with panamera turbo 500HP, 57.900 km condition as new, fantastic car really, 1.700 euro/year or 3.200 2 years
Just thought I would throw my two cents in as well.
I have owned my 2013 Panamera 4s now for about a year. Originally I didn't have any issues! I made sure to review all of the previous work and when I actually purchased the vehicle It only had 35k miles on it. So I didn't think I was going to run into issues quickly, which of course was my first mistake. Unfortunately, my air suspension (PASM) had leaks in my front two struts. This was a VERY pricy fix and has slightly turned me off to loving the car so much. I had to fork over $7,400 to fix the two front struts. The process was quick but the wallet was hit hard. Porsche also likes to encourage 30k, 40k, 50k, 60k+ tuneups. This can easily cost $1,500+ which is not ideal.
Aside from that issue, I haven't experienced anything else and I would HIGHLY recommend the vehicle. Its driving is incredibly elegant and I can officially say I am a Porshe owner.
I'm actually searching around to buy one...I sees a lot with very low and reasonable miles..
What do you suggest I look for when buying one? Thanks any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
This is why I like having my own mechanic
With any car, especially performance / luxury vehicles, it's always best to perform as much of your own maintenance / work as possible. Especially doing tune-ups with common hand tools. It can save so much money, and you learn more about the car.
Just bought a V6 Panamera, I LOVE IT!
Any problems or is it still the same after 3 years, can you tell me some gods and bads from your personal experience 😊
@@wednayz2829 not a single.issue
Best Panamera info video on youtube, thanks
I was just to post this same comment.
Informative, comprehensive, thx to the people who committed it :)
Currently thinking about buying one of these , 2013 onwards for around £20k - absolutely brilliant video, thank you!
Nigel, UK
Me to but the service prices or possible fails have put me off, if I win the lottery though I’ll be getting one!🤣
2013 Platinum 4 with 49k miles. Still under CPO warranty and other than a broken dash clock, no issues. Love it. Added a 2001 911 Cab with 36k miles and for less than $60k total, I've got everything I need. Oh, and I probably wouldn't have these if I didn't do my own maintenance.
I want to make same combo :) i have now about 60.000k 💵 so i cant effort both so im considering to buy Macan gts or Panamera then next year 2000-2003 911 as a weekend car
I have a 2013 with 160k only done a few things, thermostat, waterpump and spark plugs along with oil changes and brakes. The car has been a tank...
Fantastic video with stunning pictures and information showing what is being described. Thank you so much.
I will have one this year
Did you buyed?
I will have one this year
@@biancaspeaks444 Me too
I’m goin Saturday to see if I get approved my score is a 721 so ima go ahead and try
901 TRUKK DRIVER REMY PUT THAT IN THE DRIVEWAY!!!
I have a 2014 S twin Turbo!!! Amazing Vehicle!!!!
I have a 2011 and it feels like I bought a new car
Hey man! I’m interested in buying one, I have a couple questions if you don’t mind:
- What model of Panamera (ie. S, 4S or Turbo)?
- Has it had any problems?
@@evan9536 4S
looking at a 2011 S. how has yours been so far?
Yea because they have had the same exact same interior for the last 15 years lol literally nothing has changed except drive train options people who buy these new are absolute buffoons
I have a 2011 as well only 50k miles it’s been having a lot of issues with the censors
Great video, thank you...I'm a major car guy and pretty much got hooked and have owned only German cars since 1967 after spending a few years in Germany for Uncle Sam. I've basically owned Porsche's, Mercedes, BMW's, and Audi's. I had a 2012 Panamera 4s for many years and just loved it. The one thing I have learned through the years that in buying a new car, especially a Porsche, you took a major depreciation beating just pulling out of the dealership. With that in mind, I have decided to never buy a new car again. I was recently in the market for a new Toy and preferred the Panamera models of 2017 and newer due especially to the electronics update and the ability to have Apple Car Play. In my search, as much as I preferred the changed model in 2017, I came across a one-owner 2016 GTS with only 14,280 miles. The car is in MINT-like new condition. It is loaded with many options with a window sticker of $153,580. I was able to purchase this car that is four years old for only $67,250, how could I pass savings like that up...For me, the Panamera offers everything you would ever need in a car. It is an upscale all-around vehicle that is second to none. It offers luxury, comfort for four people, sports car handling, and all the power and thrust you'll ever need. Granted it doesn't have Apple Car Play but for $1,000 I'll have it installed in my radio. The only downside of the car is the maintenance expense is a bit high but for me, it's well worth it.....
im in the same boat, really want a 2017 but the price tag in Canada is 80-95k ...any thoughts on the major repair bills coming up in 2022 (ie 5 yr old Panamera)? Thanks
@@MStar10 Having been to the Porsche dealerships through the years, Ive spent $535 for an oil change, a bit over $ 1,000 for a 20K service and recall $2,400 for brakes. I get a kick out of the service advisor. When delivering the car for service it was very well noticed that they also receive spiffs or a commission on what the sell. In all the history of my visits they always say; “What Porsche recommends NOT what is actually required to maintain the warranty. I have found a German only car service center, Autohaus, here in Southern NJ. that has provided a service center that is very professional looks like and acts like dealer in all aspects except pricing. They are first class and the savings are astronomical. I have two other Porsche’s, and recently paid $235 for an oil and brake fluid change on a Cayenne and $875 for front brakes on. Macan GTS….I recommend you try to find a similar service center or mechanic in Canada….good Luck and enjoy the Porsche cars….just a funny after the fact; I recently talked to a gent that has a Mercedes GLC AMG 63. He said he has owned Porsches rhrouh the years and found Mercedes a bit less to maintain….imagine dropping to a Mercedes….Very funny….
@@jimgoldsmith8990 wow thanks so much for this detail. It really helps and I'll be sure to find a similar high quality repair shop. Just wondering have you owned any 2017-2019 panameras and what your experience re maintenance has been like? Are they a strain or just regular expensive expected repairs? So close to pulling the trigger :))
i have a 2012 with a techart bodykit. looks and drives amazingly. the only issue mine has is with the pcm system. it doesn’t activate the navigation mode and when its not activated bluetooth functionality also doesn’t work. luckily i can fix it by holding down the info button and restarting the pcm system. i basically do that every time i get in the car. another issue is when i stop at a redlight the car does the start/stop function and sometimes the cut in electricity results in the bose sound system to turn off and only the subwoofer stays working you can only hear the bass of the song that is playing when it happens and honestly its quite hilarious. fortunately that happens very rarely and when it does happen you can fix it by turning the engine off, opening the driver door, closing it and locking the car then wait 2 minutes then turn the car back on. love my panamera i have 180.000 km on it, never had an engine issue and I will not be selling it. its such a sensational car i have had so many memories with it.
Fantastic useful video. Thank you. I've owned 4 Porsches so far and I'm thinking of buying a 2011 Panamera Turbo soon. This video has helped me a lot. They really are beautiful machines!
Just going to pick my 'new' (2015) Porsche Panamera today.... very stoked!! :)))
Does it have good leg room? I’m 6’4 and finally ready to upgrade from my 07 Maxima 😂
@@nigwardtennackles9202 That'll be a hell of an upgrade!
Great video, falling in love with these cars!!
Edwin McMillan they're awesome! 👍
I purchased my panamera in 2012 and I only have 37,000 mi on it today I had a scare because I only drive it in the summer time and it was sitting for a long time and it wouldn't start and it had a clicking sound but I became a Porsche mechanic and got on UA-cam and learned how to remove the battery myself and take it to get checked out that saved me over $1,500 going to the dealer and I didn't need a new battery it just needed to be charged. So I have lucked out so far on having any major issues with this vehicle but I also have a 2019 Cayenne that I special ordered so far nothing's wrong with that I only have $18,000 mi so I'm hoping not to have to many issues from either. I know they say don't buy a car if you can't afford to upkeep. But these dealers be trying to price gouge you.
Thanks bro. I’ll be getting mine very soon before my birthday
im selling my gts, let me know if u r interested. 2013 year model, it has all the options, like buttons are functional, non blank buttons.
How is it?
Enjoy bro!
looking at getting a turbo, did you have any major issues?
Just bought a 2015 Panamera S. So ready to kick some ass.
Sport Plus on my ‘14 4S is grrreat!
I never was a Porsche fan until the creation of the Panamera I hated every 2 door Porsche every made until the facelift newer models they look a whole lot better now Im in love with the 4 door Porsche I plan on buying one soon
I have had a 2010 Panamera turbo over 7 years. The only major problem during that time, and 140,000 miles, is the air suspension. After the second failure, I replaced it with struts. Fortunately, I am able to do all my own basic maintenance, which saves thousands each year. Otherwise, we love this car, and pray the party doesn't end with a major failure to the engine or PDK.
Great video! I am considering buying one but am finding one thing bewildering … the number of prior owners these cars all seem to have. I saw a 2012 with only 24K miles and a clean Carfax that had 7 prior owners! A number of them have had a minimum of 2-4 owners in 40K miles. On a normal car, this says they are a maintenance nightmare and the car has been shuffled from one owner to another when the owner has had his fill of the bill. Is this a good assumption or do people just buy these as toys, drive them a year and move on to something else?
O Em G , I sees a lot of the same things. Low mileage but between 1-3 owners. Makes me wonder if it's worth buying one. Which I am looking and researching the best buy. One owner with low miles tells me that the previous owner couldn't afford the upkeep of just the basic repairs....Example an oil change, brakes or even tires...But when. I see three or four owners with low and reasonable miles that says something different. ..I like the Maseratis but I hear those cars looks good but like BMW'S once the warranty is up, all kinda things starts to go wrong...
The more owners I see, to me I think problems
In sports plus mode the spoiler on the non turbo models will raise higher when extended.
Turbo and Turbo S models raise higher in sport Chrono too!
A fair review, I agree with all points. 2011 4S owner.
I love the look of the original version the new one looks like the 9/11 which is boring and it looks like a typical sports car I wouldn't do a double take if I seen it come down the street but the ones before they changed the body, that's something to look at. It stands out from the crowd.
the panamera is the best sedan in my opinion honestly. some ppl complain about this car just like any other car. but porsche is the best car company overall. and the looks of the panamera are tremendous honestly. seems like ppl haven't try the panamera honestly.
Thanks, the info is really helpful
Props for pronouncing Porsche right! ❤️
Always thought it was odd how cheap these get on the used market. It always made me paused thinking they have to be a money pit of maintenance. Strange to hear doesn’t seem to be the case from this video.
4 years of ownership. 80k miles..very reliable. air struts suspension issues only. found out later thats its cheaper than GM magnetic ride struts...
I own a post 2017 model, but the more I look at the pre-redesign model the more I like it
how have repair bills been? im looking at 17 or 18..thoughts?
@@MStar10 depends on what I was repairing. If I remember right, changing a new tire was around 450 usd. Oil maintenance was around 700 usd. I scratch the rear bumper once, the repair was around 430 usd.
I live in China so it might be different from your bills.
Would love to have this car...I can afford the purchase but am afraid for the maintenance en running costs
And understandably so, these are very reliable cars for the most part as long as it’s past 2012, if you are afraid of maintenance it might be a good idea to get a really good extended warranty from companies like Toco or concord, or select auto protect, ( I have toco and they have been extremely good to me) and it’s good to find a good mechanic like Autohaus or CarPlus as the dealer is overpriced
Thanks for the knowledge.
Great video thank you so much ! have a nice rolling power life!
Wow!! Im in the market for a Panamera & this very good information.. Thanks!
gary gam so did you get a Panamera ?
What wheels are those at 10:03 and 10:12?
Thank you for this post. I believe I'm ready to get one. I've been very hesitant in getting one because of that recall for the bolts. What is the yearly cost of maintenance/repairs for these vehicles?
Hello, the maintenance costs will really vary, but overall they're not bad. For me, it has been filters and oil changes. If you can DIY, you will save a lot. I wouldn't say it's more than any other car in the Panamera's class. They're very reliable, in my opinion. I wouldn't worry about the bolts, as long as the recall has been completed. Also, it's really only on the early 2010s-2012s. Thanks for watching.
Great info Man! I’m really considering pulling the trigger and buying one of these.
Michael Connor Thanks! Do it...you'll love it more and more.
How many miles/km's can you expect to put on one of these cars? I see a lot of the models for sale in my area are being sold around the 70-80000 km mark (42-48,000 miles). Makes me wonder why.
sold as a leased return car? Idk i see some examples with 150k - 260k miles
Love this car
Excellently Informative!!
Next 5 years. Im planning on a 2012 panamera 4 or 4s. Not sure if I want the v6 or v8.
Ross Hoy You’ll regret not getting the V8, I can promise you that. The sound is so much better.
Beautiful Ride ! Thank you for posting !
I have 750Ld rn. I’ll buy a Panamera soon. What’s your opinion on the GTS?
Nice one man - great info thanks! I love Panameras
So much thanks for information. That is amaizing you know all of that 👏
What are your thoughts on the engine and transmission of the 2015 Panamera S e-Hybrid. I believe it uses a Audi engine. How does it compare to a Porsche PDK?
Hi Suresh, yes that is correct. I prefer the PDK since it feels like a manual transmission that is being shifted by a expert hand extremely fast. It feels more nimble and sporty to me. I also prefer the way it shifts, even though it may not be as smooth as the regular automatic in the S E-Hybrid. I think that if you decide to get that model, you'll love it, and it does deliver great power and good fuel efficiency for large sedan. Being able to drive in electric only mode for up to 20 miles is nice, and you can drive up to 84 mph, which is great for the freeway. I hope this helps.
Thank you for this thorough review.
If you buy used from a Porsche dealership and the car is Porsche Certified Preowned with a warranty for 3 years with unlimited miles does this mitigate some of these worries mentioned above? Especially if the car is 2016 and 16K miles? Thanks!
anonymous62810 - 2016 is the best year for the 970 chassis Panamera. Yes, a CPO car is a great choice!
@@UsefulVids CPO is the only choice - actually applies to any modern car, not just Porsche, especially with electronic components.
Thanks! This was quite useful. I am looking at purchasing a 2016 model shortly.
This video is sooo helpful. I appreciate this video so much. Im buying one in the next few months. Now I feel confident buying it.
Are 2013 Panamera GTS models with high mileage a good buy?
Great video. Thanks!!! I plan to buy end of this year....my first Porsche 😀...any forum suggestions? Recommended trims? And I will be going from a 535 M sport pkg to a panamera...comments? Thoughts? Cheers
I recommend getting a GTS if you're into speed and fun. Although all models of the Panamera are great. In my opinion, it's a completely different vehicle to drive compared to your BMW.
What I have read here are fair assumptions. For example, the BMW X5M has two different tire sizes and only two companies on the planet make tires for that vehicle. So you are either buy expensive tires or real expensive tires. I know a German car mechanic and he says that changing all 4 tires will be upwards of $2500. So, yeah, cheap to pick up one of these beautiful German sports cars, but be ready to fork over some serious cash to keep it running. Sad, but true.
I have a 2014 Panamera Executive Turbo. Does anyone have advice for finding winter wheels and tires for this vehicle? Mine has non-ceramic brakes. Thanks to anyone that can help!
I want buy a panamera 3.6 V6 (970) 2010 is it reliable the engin? Thank you for help!
Never liked the saggy rear end. It ruin it for the rest which is really nice, classic Porsche. The new model with the connecting rear lights is something to crave for.
Got one couple months ago.
Also got car with three year warranty as the previous owner bought 3 year warranty. Also previous owner bought $3.5k Pirelli tires. For an oil change it cost around 400$ if you take it to Porsche factory. For me, I call one of the worker at the Porsche factory to come to my house for changing the oil for my car. I pay around 100$.
Great Video! I love my Panamera! Bought brand new in 2011. I did have the camphaser bolt issue but Porsche took care of me. Other than that just typical suspension replacement parts (shocks, springs, wheel bearings, recently cv boot tare).
How many km have it now ?
And the air suspension compressor is known to have problems under cold weathers (-10 Celsius and below) and causes chassis failure which the compressor would need to be replaced
Wait -10 celsius ? Really ? It's a german car and most of Germany goes below this temperature in winter
I have noticed the front air suspension does get a little noisyer in the winter months which drops to only 10 to 25 degree on average here in Alabama. Probably much worst in northern States. Keeping your car parked in home garage helps a lot. It clears up on its own right before spring. I never had a problem with my compressor and never I had to replace a air shock. Thank God! I was told the newer models have addressed that issue with updated air shocks.
Best car out there! So classy and elegant
My 2011 had a problem with the headliner. It started to separate over the read passenger heads. Also, the drivers side AC leaked Freon
I've seen some going for as low as $20k on Craigslist with 70k miles... Great looking car, scary maintenance costs.
dont buy one as a porsche mechanic at a main dealer these suffer with all sorts of problems rust being the main one and pretty much all the engines suffer with bad oil leaks also the transfer boxes like to fail very often they just are not worth it save yourself some cash and buy a bmw or audi
Every car is prone to getting broken. Stop being ignorant man! I had BMW and Audi and Ive experienced bad things!
@@medimo7457 please explain how I’m being ignorant when I am just stating facts ?
@@Simon-sv6qe I am actually looking to buy one as well...But it's really is shocking to see 2013-2019 models going for anywhere to $24k- $56k... Makes one wonder is getting one really worth it.
Ik cars has basic wear and tear but I don't want to purchase one and 3-6mths I've started to have issues...But I really love these cars.. Used and brand,brand new!.
But thanks for the advice. I'll definitely keep what you said in mind, when or if I decide to buy one.
@@Simon-sv6qe thanks for your input, im thinking of buying 17 ' so 4/5 yrs old...what are the major repair bills coming up - this would be really helpful !!
Its 2021, I'm looking to buy a panamera
What is the most reliable engine? How does the pdk hold up?
Mech Eng The PDK holds up really well and provides a much sportier feel than a standard automatic transmission. Engines are all mostly reliable, especially the face-lift (14-16) v6 models and the GTS.
I love this Car
Awesome and very informative vid! I'm about to grab a 2014 e-hybrid. All I'm truly wondering is, how are the maintenance costs? I've seen these cars reaching over 300k miles. Is this common? Thank you!!!
Did you grab it? How is it going? (Picking one up tomorrow...)
@@jonathanandrews2188 How is it going ? haha , thinking about buying one
I bought a 2013 panamera 4 and it feels like brand new! I loved it so much that I bought each of my 2 daughters one as well for xmas!! They love them as well!!!!!👍
Braggart
So try to find one with sport chrono but without the air suspension.
Very good video!Still waiting for the rear bumper removal guide :P
DJ Hack :D I'll try to get it shortly! I know you asked a while ago! Thanks for watching!
I will have to replace my coolant temperature sensor myself. Mine stills works fine right now but the computer says it's been going bad for the last 2 years causing check engine light to come on occasionally. The dealer wants $1000 to replace it. I think the sensor itself is only $38 plus a gasket or something simple. Requires removal of the entire intake manifold because they virtually buried the sensor under it. I do have the tools and confidence do it myself once I can find a clear detailed video of the procedure on UA-cam. The one video I seen on UA-cam skip procedure steps and thus created too many unknowns.
Does anyone know from where I can get the front bumper seen at 10:14?
That's the Caractere bumper. www.caractere-exclusive.com/en/products/porsche/panamera
Well done vid. Thanks for the great information.
I love your useful video. Thank you for not wasting my time! Subscribed!
This video helps a lot! Thank you so much.
deciding if I want GTS or Turbo ( not Turbo S ).
gts
@@LustyyOG why ?
@@x3ni487 The GTS is the last of the naturally aspirated!!! They all go turbo now. Get the V8! Got me one and luv it! So does everyone around town!
@@JermaineWare did you get a GTS? What year ? Any problems yet?overall opinion?
I'm also looking for a GTS or 4s though i would like a gts with low mileage.
@@stevenjr6582 Yep got a 2013 GTS in 2015. Absolutely no problems whatsoever. Car is great, good size but when driving it feels like a coupe especially driving hard. Pretty amazing a car this size handles so well and 3.8 0-60 is no joke. EVERYONE love this thing around town and passengers have no complaints. If you get a GTS, you can't really do to much to it mod wise BUT, I just got a VR Racing tune which only add 25hp and 16pd of torque but the difference is very noticable and the shifts are MUCH better/smoother in Sport Plus mode (which you should always keep in!). Oh I didn't even mention the exhaust note (GTS)... ALL HEADS TURN.. ITS LOUD AND ANGRY!!!! Get the GTS, it is the perfect balance between a 4s and Turbo IMO.
Very helpful!! Thanks.
Can you tell me where you found the picture of the black on at 11:35? Would love to know the specs on the body kit and wheels!!
Look up the Panamera Stingray GTR. I believe only 25 were made.
@@UsefulVids thank you!!
@@behindthethreads325 No problem - thanks for watching!
I just sold my one year old MY2020 Mercedes GLC 400d (engine broke down after 15000 miles) back to the dealer and bought a 2011 Panamera Turbo in great condition for only half the price I still got from the dealer... what can I say - it is so much more car. Almost no use of plastic, feels like a luxury yacht on the road, drives like a supercar... I'm very happy - let's see how this holds up - but I know one thing for sure - lesson learned: I will never buy a brand new car again.
is it expensive to maintain
@@thatdudee5344 I shall see ☺️
I'm going to test drive and hopefully walk out with one this weekend. Would love to hear how your half year ownership has been.
@@bsmitley Expensive on gas, but otherwise fine, incredibly nice to drive and to drive fast 😬👌🏻
@@lamilumag have you had any issues? been looking at getting a 2010-13 turbo.
I was looking for either the v6 diesel or the hybrid but they cost a fortune in Turkey sadly
Did all panamera 4's have all wheel drive?
Yes, the “4” designates AWD.
How much panamera 2011 in your country?
Hello. What years have the oil problems?
Very useful information.. will
Be getting one in a few months.
Blessings 🙏🏽
fellas i promise you. every single euro brand WILL have its share of problems. frequently. each time you bring it in , it will be in the shop for 4-7 days and minimum $1,200 each and every time. if you want to own a euro car and a sports model, be prepared to have $4k in throw away funds to support it. if you can swallow that fact, youre good to go.
Do u think basic parameters and S model have huge performance differences?
V6 has good performance, but V8 will sound better and is definitely faster. Both are good choices! Find the cleanest one possible.
one morething !! what about emp shielding ?? and air filter like the tesla one??
What about the v6tt ‘14 S?
Great details !!!!
Thanks for the video, may I ask is 2014 panamera turbo 4WD?
Yes, 2014 Panamera Turbo is AWD
Great review, thanks, I owe a GTS and love it! What is that rear wing you show on your inicial picture? Thanks in advance...
Thanks! It's the JE Design Rear Spoiler.
Jesus Barrera , can you describe your experience with the gts?
Did you have any problems ,oil consumption ,i'm very interested in the technical problems like engine transmission and overall reliability.
@@stevenjr6582 I Own a Panamera Turbo and they had to remove the whole transmission just to get to a damn screw. Wtf! I put the car in the shop just to fix a routine coolant leak behind the engine where I can't reach. This is common on older Panamera V8's but generally an easy fix for them. They initially removed the intake manifold to get to the leak but I guess this time that wasn't enough. They decided to removed the transmission without even asking. Maybe that's why it's no charge for the service. My car has been in the shop now for over 2 months. The first month was due to typical BS like waiting for O-rings to show up in the mail. Then they received the wrong parts. You know the routine. But overall, I'm still happy right now because they said there would be no charge for the removal of the transmission. That would have easily cost me another grand. And the loaner car they gave me is a brand new Porsche. We put the first 2k miles on so far. Great loner but I do miss my car. I can't wait to get it back.
I love it too - why do people hate it??
I own a Panamera and Just got a Cayenne. I get the best of both worlds. I have the protection film on the front of my panamera. It is pricey but well worth it!
I also have a 2012 panamera that I bought new and then I bought a 2019 Cayenne and I put the protection clear coat on both of them. Great minds think alike
Still rocking the Cayenne sold the Panamera. 🙌🏾
Can anyone comment on used prices and how they've risen over the past couple years? I was looking at 2014-2016, would like the S for a little more power, these in the 40-50k miles seem to be around $45000 give or take. I'm just wondering if this is WAY up from where they were before or if these have stayed pretty constant.
Waaay up.
For some reason during the pandemic dry gulch of cars, luxury models went up way faster than other categories. 911s for example , went up exponentially. I assume this dragged along the Panamera, too.
Hello, which models are not infekted with the oil excess? The 2010 v6 models?
Hello, the V6 in generally doesn't seem to have excess oil consumption. Generally, it's with the v8 models such as the S and Turbo. Owner's of newer 8cyl models seem to complain less about the oil consumption. Please note that some oil consumption is considered normal.
thanx for the info
The air suspension will 100% have issues don’t be surprised if your car is slammed to the ground
Thanks for the info. Bro very well done. If that's all witch is normal wear and tear i so want more so now 🤔🤔😎