Theology of the Phoenicians - Sanchuniathon
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Preserved in Eusebius of Caesarea's Praeparatio Evangelica (c. 313 AD), the Theology of the Phoenicians by Sanchuniathon presents a euhemerist account of the creation of the world and the birth of the gods from among the ranks of primordial man.
Translated by E.H. Gifford
Read by Dan Attrell
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Please like, share, and leave a comment to be a sweet-smelling incense to the algogods (who are really just primordial techbros)
An outstanding narrative and synthesis.
This is going to shake rattle and roll the zealots and the powerful.
It may get loud.
More like this please.
why does everyone exclude the 13th zodiac Ophiuchus, since all of this was created before the gregorian calender?
Hail to the Old Gods and the New
@@Madasin_Paine😊
didn't realize I had posted a reply, let alone 3 nor such a profound one at that. Thank you
What do you think about dreams?
10:15 - 13:05 flawless narration, baffling information, thought provoking choice of imagery. you made me watch a slideshow avidly for 40 minutes straight you legend
I figured it was time for something a little different from the usual, and something that ran entirely contrary to my last upload. Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching all the way through.
@@TheModernHermeticist 🙏
This writing is merely Christian apologism, with some nuggets of insight into the religions of the Cartheginians. There is definitely a market with me wanting to purchase a thorough account of whom the Carthegenians were, as opposed to what the Romans or the Christians had thought on the matter.
I was thinking the same thing 😂
Doy
I know I'm not the average YT watcher and I'm a bit old, but your channel has given me a new love for history. Thank you for finding these things and presenting them in such a captivating way.
A bit old ? Please don't buy into propaganda including ageist bs . The way that you think and feel will determine your age , stay forever a child in wonder of creation!
@@WilliamKelly-ou2nm huh? you can chill. I'm all good with my age. It's just a fact. You don't need to worry, I'm not lol
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Once again, a superb reading of a vital text. Many thanks Dr. Attrell...!
Keep up the great work, Dan 👍
Thanks as always Jason 🙏
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Need to hear it at least five more times.
Thanks for sharing this knowledge with us.
This is fascinating and beautifully produced. Thank you for sharing!
"The Greek myth about the alphabet was that Cadmus, reputedly the king who introduced the phonetic letters into Greece, sowed the dragon's teeth, & they sprang up armed men. Like any other myth, this one capsulates a prolonged process into a flashing insight. The alphabet meant power & authority & control of military structures at a distance.
When combined with papyrus, the alphabet spelled the end of the stationary temple bureaucracies & the priestly monopolies of knowledge and power. Unlike pre-alphabetic writing, which with its innumerable signs was difficult to master, the alphabet could be learned in a few hours. The acquisition of so extensive a knowledge and so complex a skill as pre-alphabetic writing represented, when applied to such unwieldy materials as brick and stone, insured for the scribal caste a monopoly of priestly power."
[Understanding Media, Marshall McLuhan, 1973]
Cadmus is a Greek son of Agenora from Argos in the Peloponnese
the old man settled in Phoenicia and founded a state
cadmus simply returns to the land of his ancestors
Cadmus lived many generations before the Trojan War around 1400-1500 BC.
During this period and many centuries later there was no alphabet
The Mycenaean Greeks throughout Greece used the Linear Α and Linear Β script which was a syllabic script
from the evolution of Linear B we have the phthonic alphabet that distinguishes consonants and vowels
Phoenician is a syllabic writing system
It does NOT count as an ALPHABET in the classical scientific sense of the term since it has an incomplete structure.
does not separate letter-phoneme but SYLLABLES, except that the vowels or consonants X, Ψ, Φ were not included at all.
Only the Greek alphabet progressed to the separation of syllables into letter-phoneme-sound
the Phoenician A, how do you explain it since the Phoenicians had no vowels and finally it has a different phonetic quality than the Greek A
All scientific terms related to writing, e.g. The grammar, syntax, tone, phoneme syllables are in Greek.
if the alphabet had been found in Syria-Lebanon, it would have spread as a more practical script to Egyptians, Syrians, Arameans, Mesopotamians, but this did not happen to those who continued to write until Hellenistic times in cuneiform script.
the Phoenician script is a simplification of the syllabic Cyprominoan script in Cyprus
In fact, the Cyprominoan script is more complete for writing complex texts because it preserves the vowels
today we cannot read Carthaginian inscriptions that were supposed to be written in the Phoenician script
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage_Administration_Inscription
from the 4th century BC after the fall of the Persian Empire, the entire east from Egypt to Mesopotamia was written in the Greek alphabet. Why did they prefer the Greek alphabet and not the Phoenician script?
@@panagiotis7946also Theseus, son of Hephaestus, the Fire God and first Pharoah of Egypt, King Og from which Ogham derives. Minoans became Phillistines and Phoenicians, the Sea People's, Minoans even processed Murex Dyes like the Phoenicians, aka Israelites aka Canaanites aka Celts aka Galatians aka Jews
The script you're referring to wasn't FROM Greece, it's that the Graecians (Galatians or Sons of Light) were Phoenician colonies, later replaced by Alexander, the. The Ptolemies
Graecians also colonised Italy as the Etruscans
@@panagiotis7946
Thank you for sharing this!
If you have the time, I’d love to get some book recommendations from you. I would love to learn more about this material. 😃
Greeks are the thieves of history
@@panagiotis7946 Seems like every book or article on the alphabet that I ever picked up said A/Aleph, the first letter of the word for ox was A, the same as our A. Alef was a drawing of an ox head that became stylized to an A-like shape. ???
Thank you! Finally someone uploaded a proper Sanchuniathon!
Since hearing of Sanchuniathon some 10 years ago I struggled to find and decent literature concerning his writings on theogony and cosmogony. (It seems like he's been pushed aside by academia in favour of more accepted myths? Maybe justly so, but certainly not worth forgetting about. This is a much needed presentation. Many thanks.
This is excellent information if any one knows what they are listening to or watching or if they can even relate to it.
Incredible.
You filled a lot of blanks in my story of history
Lovely production. Fascinating history.
Many thanks
The most fascinating presentation I've seen of what we regard as myths, keeping in mind that there is hidden truth in every myth. Thank you.
The creation story was incredible, felt like they were describing the formation of our atmosphere and geosphere, not to mention evolution as well.
Even when Eusebius was trying to denigrate them saying they thought the Sun, noon, and stars created and sustained everything, he didn’t realize how close they were to understanding that plants need sunlight and ocean life need the tides caused by the moon. Then again, I’m sure the Sumerians already knew those most obvious patterns before the Phoenicians or the Kemetic Egyptians.
@@letsomethingshineYeah, well Satan was right there when JEHOVAH ALMIGHTY & SON did that Creation stuff ~~~ so shouldn't we expect some accuracy in his mimicry account !
I believe the point of this work has been lost on a lot of people in the comments on this video
Eusebius was trying to illustrate that the earliest man had a proper conception of the creator of all things as the one to be worshipped and that after that began a chain of mundane events in the lives of subsequent humans who had forgotten where to place their worship and deified one another and the elements while mythologizing their own history.
If one can at least safely assume that, even though Eusebius aimed at Christian apologetics, the text is correct in it's assertions (having not been written with Eusebius in mind let alone in collaboration), then it's safe to assume that the knowledge of how creation must have occurred would go back through oral tradition even before the Phoenicians formalised it into a religious system....before Tautus(sp?) invented writing.
Remember, the Phoenicians are a much later sort of iteration of the Canaanites, so the history that Sanchuniathon related would have come from oral and early written history that would have been at least partially concurrent with times spoken of in the Pentateuch, most specifically the first parts the Old Testament, the Torah
To that end, the Bible makes the same assertions about the nature of creation, but in broader sweeps. Even the fact that the potential for every type of plant and animal existed in the Earth before it ever sprang up.
If one reads Gen 1 and 2 carefully, it's clear that creation existed as potential before it became "reality"
This notion holds up on everything from the quantum scale (fields of probability and actualization) straight on up to the interaction of solar energy and earth's flora and Fauna.
Even the movement of the holy Spirit over the face of the waters and the subsequent "let there be light" is a brief, albeit slightly mystical, description of the same forces spoken of regarding the Phoenicians...which would make sense because the Phoenicians have hereditary associations with both the Canaanite and the Israelite or Mosaic Hebrews; they were all once the same people.
It's the mysticism that people inject into the Bible that prevents people from seeing the parallels.
The very first line of the Bible states the same thing in fewer words, as the Phoenician cosmogony: "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth." = Time, Space, and Matter. They MUST occur in that order or else the others have no meaning: No time? No meaning to space. No space? No place for matter.
Even starting creation by saying "Let there be light.", is acknowledgement that all matter is defined, by light; not just in making matter visible by bouncing wavelengths off of it but also by literally infusing everything with solar energy which activates and powers the potential which exists in the makeup of our earth.
Personally, I think Eusebius did something good here...and that should mean something because I'm generally not a fan of the movements of the RCC.
What Eusebius is trying to express here is the same that as that told in the Bible: an early and correct recognition of the creator of ALL things as God and a subsequent "falling away" and forgetting of a fundamental truth.
To be fair, the Bible may be guilty of the same sort of cultural influence that Sanchuniathon wrote about, but less so than the Greeks, if his assertions about the correctness of the history he relates is both true and hasn't been altered by Eusebius.
To that end, Sanchuniathon has presented a completely mundane history which sounds an awful lot like the things spoken of in the Torah and the inheritance of a misunderstood theology completely agrees with the repeated assertion of early Israelites that their people had fallen into idolatry.
Syncretism is the act of folding one's culture into religious practices to make it more palatable, just as Sanchuniathon described early men doing with their ancestors and the Greeks doing with that history by turning it into their mythology. We can't help it, we're stuck in time. So, I like it very much when I can grab onto another piece of the puzzle that strips the mysticism from religious tradition.
@@jerryshunk7152Christianity isn't true either. No religion is. Humans are just another one of nature's mistakes.
Read Sam Harris' The End of Faith and Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion.
Literally just the Zodiac
Another great video, thanks!
I can’t stop watching
yes i love this tale!
The Enlightenment age was named by the same mental orientation that came up with The Patriot Act and the No Child Left Behind Act….that orientation is not aimed at the good, the true, and the beautiful.
Its worse than missing the mark, I believe it’s intentionally missing the mark because it aims at power not Love.
So, Eusebius had access to Phoenician texts translated by a Philo (not THE Philo), but these texts don't survive except in the quotations that Eusebius chose to minimize and dismiss the religion of Syro-Palestine that prevailed before the imposition of the Hebrew bible religion and Christianity on the people there. I can't help but imagine that he took from them what he thought was useful for his own agenda, and destroyed them, like the scene in Acts where Paul has the people of Ephesus burn their books. It would be too embarrassing for Hebrew and Christian origins to have the testimony of other cultures interfering with their version of theological history, so they write their own disparaging account of it, and destroy the actual accounts that were still extant in their own time. Is this too imaginative? Is this what happened?
Not really too imaginative considering how the Spanish clergy burned the bulk of Mayan texts.
The burned books were mainly sorcerry/ black magic books
@@alexpaul6054 Ok. Sure, that's what the Catholics say in their defense but how did they know that when they couldn't even read the writing nor understand the language?
Academic elites able to read and write/publish with access to books critiquing and disproving each other's works basically. Eusebius (Christian)was writing in response to Porphyry of Tyre's (Neoplatonist) 4th book treatise titled "Against the Christians" with his own "Preparatio Evangelica." In regards to the incident of the book burning in Ephesus, Christians were not the dominant group in power. Converted magic praticioners voluntarily burned their very expensive magic books as they turned away from the lesser gods.
@@lairdhaynes1986 Hmmm, are you ok with the Occult literature and practices?
Polytheism is not an error, each are forms of the One.
This makes it easy for us to take on the same One.
In monotheism this One is made unreachable.
It ceases to be an expression of the One.
Now you are always other.
For me monotheism is a stupid interpretation of Plato.
Also, how dare you assert the actions of Yahweh as recorded in the Torah are Good.
They are utterly divisive, how are they an expression of henosis?
(Unity, union, oneness.)
Let me remind you that Judaism is originally Henotheistic...
It doesn't reject other Gods, it just says worship this one or die...
Indeed, to justify this it merges this God with other popular Gods...
Almost as if they're making it up as they go and there's no relation to reality at all...
Those who insist on direct experience understand there is a reality being expressed...
It results in our own becoming divine expressions...
We are not other than that One.
To insist otherwise is to reject oneness.
Neither faith or belief help in finding it.
Indeed, you harmonize with it more when it ceases to depend on words.
You understand what different groups are saying because you know the point of saying it.
Only the ignorant insist the expressions are unrelated.
Even if there isn't a first influence, there has been a constant interaction.
Where they find similarity you can be sure truth mattered more than identity.
Most will kill for their identity without ever even considering truth.
Just keep trying to understand what it would even mean for all to be one...
Notice how everything already interrelates, is anything actually independent?
The mind knows most things by comparison, what is there prior to this?
Look around at what best conveys this for you but understand something!
This isn't make believe, do not stop until it happens.
Do not project about it, do not theorize and give this authority.
Keep going until you are it.
Now, what has happened?
"The wise fisherman released the many small fish and easily chose the fine large fish"
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I've read all the major ancient texts and delved into some etymology too... Only while intoxicated on L ... What fun!!! Anyways, my cliff notes for life, lie in, the golden rule, singing and dancing, and Astatine 85 and it's production in the body and the most fulfilling role that it plays 🚫⌛👍🎁
I wonder what the influence on Christianity was. Look up a map of ancient Israel - the Phoenicians are right next to them and the great city of Tyre is walking distance to the Gallilee.
the other way around
@@smolboyi you don't get Tekhelet without Tyrian purple.
@Kid_Ikaris true and interesting point!
But before there was tekhelet, there were the original semitic writings.. and the people who wrote them.
@@smolboyi yeah and ultimately the Phoenician gods were replaced with Christianity and through that the Jewish God
@Kid_Ikaris In Lebanon you mean?
I just noticed you got over 100K subs. Mazel tov!
🎉Thanks
@@TheModernHermeticistare you Jewish (by ethnicity if not belief) as well, TMH my friend?
This is fascinating! Thank you.
Thanks for watching
Love this channel thank u for all your work! Whoooo
That was incredible. After a quick credential check (just found your channel), this seems to validate without question what could be the final layer on the onion of Phoenicia. Grateful to you and your team for this work and translation!
Thank you kindly, though full disclosure, this is not one of my translations. This was translated by Edwin Gifford back in 1903.
@@TheModernHermeticistThanks for correcting :)
This has nothing to do with any honest and useful account of Phoenician thought and belief. This is propaganda. See my comment above.
Pythagoras means Heart of the Serpent, he was born in Sidon, a fishing Port in Phoenicia. His mother recieved a message from the Oracle of Delphi that he would become a great Leader and Teacher. Sidon means Kingdom of the Fish, and the Essenes, who wrote the Dead Sea scrolls, worshipped Pythagoras. The Sarcophagus of Eschmun III found in Sidon names him as the Widow's Scion, aka Hiram Abiff, the Founder of Freemasonry, of which Tyre was the premier Capital (at least equal to Thebes).
In 911BC Rameses II married the Queen of Sidon, home of Jezebel (Daughter or consort of Baal, basically "Queen") founding Neo Assyrian Babylon, an alliance between Egypt and Hiram, father of Jezebel and King of Assyria, and Egypt, forming the Phoenician colonies and building the first Temple of Melqart to commemorate the alliance.
The Si in Sidon is the basis of the Latin Exe, or X, and is the basis of the Cross, or Chi Rho that Constantine painted on his shields. Also known as the Cross of Tyre, or Cross of Baal, being Ra-El, or Ba'El. Oddly enough irrational numbers can also be mapped using Euler's number, producing a Templar Cross in the process. This cross can also be seen around the neck of Nimrod in Assyria, and is consistent with the Union Jack, and Solstice Calendar found in the Vatican Shiva Lingam.
Shiva is the Hebrew word for 7, their culture also found its way to Japan (via the Phillipines) ultimately becoming Shintoism.
It was the Phoenicians who gave their name to the Pole Star, which they used to Navigate the Oceans using the Zodiac, thats what the Antikythera mechanism was for, and with it they wrote the Byblos Baal, what we now call the Bible. The first form of the Bible was written in 325BC and called the Vaticanus Greacus, or Son of the Sacred Serpent, a reference to Sirius, the basis of the Sothic Calendar, which uses a Hexidecimal or base 60 system found in all the Megalithic sites around the world.
In the second century AD astronomer Valentinus Vettori transcribed it into a Lunar chart of 13 houses, what we now call the Zodiac. Horoscope means Star Watcher, and the Phoenician word for Saturn, or El, was Israel or El, (Fruit) of Isis and Ra.
El is the primary God of the Phoenicians, representing the offspring of Egypt, and his consort Astarte represents the Assyrian half of the alliance. It may be possible to trace lineages and alliances through the naming of gods, which can be traced all the way to Ireland and the Vikings, and to Indonesia and the Americas, even as far away as New Zealand and Australia.
It denotes Sirius as Son of Orion and Pleaides, which sits at 33 degrees of the Zodiac. The basis of the Sothic (dir Seth) Calendar of the Egyptians. The New Moon in this position marks Rosh Hashanah, the Egyptian, Celtic, Phoenician, and Assyrian New Year, the first New Moon of September, which is called September because it's the 7th House of the Zodiac, when the Sun is in Ophiuchus.
The Phoenix, Benben, or Bennu is the Egyptian word for Heron, a Feathered 'Serpent'. It baptised itself in frankincense and myrrh at BaalBek, and then alights atop the Pyramid, upon the Holy Grail, or Alter of Ra every 630 years to take three days off the calendar during the course of the first New Moon of Nisan, which means "Prince". The Capstone of Pyramids is even called the Benben or Bennu.
The Phoenix is found in all religions, which are all Astrological Allegory for the Moon travelling through the Constellations, as a soul migrating from body to body, this is the basis of Joseph Campbell's Monomyth, or the Hero's Journey. The various planets no doubt play their own roles as portents, omens, and aspects, this astrology is the science of the Bronze age, and lasted all the way up to the 20th Century. Resurrection was an early teaching of the Christian Church, and likely relates to the lineage of Kings (The King is Dead, long live the King.)
Phoenicians represent the interim step between Egypt and Greece, their artisans and culture exceeding that of the Greeks, who literally adopted the Phoenician Alphabet, which we still use to this day, sounding out words phonetically. Phoenician is aliiterated in Venetian, and Vikings, being Kings of the Sea.
The Bennu is the Egyptian Phoenix, to Phoenicians the Hoyle, no different to the traditions of the Etruscans, who saw birds as sacred, just as the Celts. Hebrew and Iber as in Iberia have the same root meaning over, as in overseas, as in those who travel "over the sea." A colony called Iberia also appears on the Eastern shores of the Black Sea, where the same Dolmens and Megalithic culture originating in Ireland and Brittany appeared circa 4500BC.
_Phoenician_ means Scions of the Phoenix, the first Bible: Vaticanus Greacus Son of the Sacred Serpent (Prince). Then there's the Essenes, Sons of Light, the Tuatha De Danaan, Sons of Light, Annunaki, Sons of Light, Arthur Pendragon means Arthur Son of the dragon, Chertoff is Russian for "Son of the Devil" and Dracula also means Son of the Dragon, Masons have been known at times to call themselves the "Brotherhood of the Great White Serpent". The Ziggurat of Anu also denotes her as a great white Serpent, while New Grange and the Bru na Boinne in Ireland (4000BC) coated buildings with white quartz to denote the Moon. The Moon itself travels outside the Solar Elliptic by 5 degrees, which means it passes through specific constellations in a serpentine fashion that is always changing, but repeats every 19 years, the time it took to train a Druid or Magi, Magi meaning "Teacher" the Phoenix is also associated with this sacred number 19.
The name "Pharoah" means "Great House"
or "House of Light" and Cairo used to be called Babel. Pharaoh's themselves wore a hooded crown representing feathers, just as Native American Chiefs, ie the Feathered Serpent, they were also called the Commander in Chief. Aztecs also had Serpent Kings, (Canaan means Serpent Kings, and Sidon was a Son of Canaan, and Great Grandson of Noah) who were called to lead with cunning and guile, being the very virtue by which they claim the title in the first place; but to be seen in public as just and diplomatic.
"As wise as Serpents, but gentle as Doves" the old Egyptian flag of an Eagle attacking a Snake is also reflected in the Modern Mexican flag, denoting the Constellations of Serpentis (13th sign of the Zodiac) and Aquila.
The dimensions and 12 mathematical constants of the Great Pyramid are also expressed in New Grange, and Stonehenge, as well as in Watson Brake, (2500BC) and Teotihuacan, which correlates to the Phoenician/ Sumerian Hexidecimal system, which is what our modern systems of time are based on.
Officially no one knows who invented astrology, the zodiac, navigation by the stars, and time keeping. But whoever built the pyramids, and pioneered the 24hr clock in Egypt 5000 years ago also knew the exact dimensions of the Earth, as well as the speed of light. These calculations can all be made using these Megalithic sites as surveyors use a theodolite. Specifically Teotihuacan, which sits 180 degrees opposite Cairo, and has the exact same footprint. The ideal positions to determine the speed of light using the transit of Venus, by which one can accurately determine Longitude for navigation. Capt cook did the same thing in 1774 when he 'discovered' Easter Island.
The only culture that fits the bill was wiped out "not one stone upon the other" by the Romans in 146BC. Tyre, the capital of Phoenicia (israel) sat just offshore from Ur Shalom, City of the New Moon, or City of Peace. The root of the name Jerusalem, and was also seized by Rome in 70AD after a 13 year seige. The gap between is 216 years.
Greek Dionysians built the Temple of Solomon (now called the Temple of Melqart) representing the Solar Lunar Metonic Calendar on which this system is based, they also carried mirrors, a practice associated with both the Magi and the Druids as well as Greek and Egyptian scholars, these Mirrors are Astrological charts called "Cycladian Frying Pans" and record the cycles of the planets. The first Temple of Melqart (the Phoenician form of Horus, or Hercules, or Pan, or Thor) representing the 13th Constellation of Ophiuchus or the Serpent Bearer (hence Orphic Serpent worship) had pillars of Emerald and Gold, representing Isis and Osiris. The Jerusalem Temple only took payment in "Shekels of Tyre" a currency minted during the Jewish rebellion against Rome. "Give that which is Ceasar's unto Ceasar"
When Alexander sacked Tyre in 332BC they moved to Carthage meaning "New City" or New Jerusalem, where they built a second temple with Pillars of Bronze.
Nebuchadnezzar also seiged Tyre for 13 years, taking the City captive in 573BC: the same time as the biblical account of the Jews. And again in 70AD after a three and a half year seige, also consistent with biblical accounts.
@@Uncanny_MountainSi = x = cross = jesus.
You need your meds dude.
Great. You should make videos together with Schwerpunkt about Tradition. I strongly recommend the guy also to your audience
I subbed to his channel to check out some of his material, but it's all very long form so I haven't gotten a chance to dip my toes in yet. Huge range of topics, very impressive.
@@TheModernHermeticist To be fair this video was fairly long form as well, you took 40 minutes to explain that the Phoenicians are Mithras Cultists. Not hatin', just sayin'.
Thank you for sharing
My pleasure, thanks for watching
Is Melchizedek the same person as Hermes?
I would say so. The name is interchangeable with Melchizedek, Enoch, Hermes, Thoth.
They're definitely both priest kings (Hermes being thrice greatest because he is a king, a priest, and a sage, and Melchizedek literally meaning King-Priest), but typically in the literature they are treated as different people from different regions as far as I understand it.
O YES
Shem
Not true
Ugarit gave the alphabet
And it has to do with mesopotamia
Amazing work brother , i always felt that the downplaying of the tales of old like they were parables was probably done intentionally
Yes! Euhemerism is the key 🙌🏻
Nah Jesus Christ is.
@@loscastaneda3766And He is the way to His Father JEHOVAH ALMIGHTY, the Only True God ! John 17:3 ~~~ Exodus 6: 2 &3 KJV
@@loscastaneda3766He means the key to understanding these ancient myths, not the key to salvation or anything like that. Euhemerism refers to the idea that many - if not all - ancient gods were actually real people who did remarkable things. Then the stories of these men and women were told again and again until they became figures of myth rather than history.
@@loscastaneda3766 There's no archaeological proof of Jesus ever even existing...
Stop.
Thank you very much for this excellent presentation. Despite the motivation to demonstrate to the Greeks that they didn’t understand the real origin of their deities; seems to me an important lesson is the amazing revelation that the deities were our ancestors! I don’t see this really as degrading their “divineness” because they clearly did amazing things and led amazing lives, worthy of being remember and venerated (as we should honor our ancestors, right?). Also, it indicates that we are special too! Not perfect but, still unique.
Now try to apply that tho the christian God and you'll see a deluge of negativity...
Yeah but the problem is that It’s hard to remember all that when you really need to
yet a masterpiece by Mr Attrell
🙏🏻
Can we learn from this that El was Kronos/Saturn before he got amalgamated into the YHWH figure? It seems like it says that, then goes on to make it murkier and more confusing.
Yes and Kronos equals time
Time= death and decay the primary force keeping us in this reincarnation soul trap.
I thought it was the reptillian 3 mile tower on the darkside of the moon that was the reincarnation soul trap?!? @@ryanvouche254
israel is the Phoenician word for Saturn or El, Fruit of Isis and Ra
no...
it is no wonder it becomes murky and confusing if you start with confusion
"approach *nearly* to the time of Moses"
not before
The art is amazing who is the painter? Forgive me I’m not as astute on art history as I would like to be.
_Saturn devouring his son_ • *Francisco Goya*
_The Mutilation of Uranus by Saturn_ • *Giorgio Vasari*
_Moloch, detail of The Pagan Gods_ • *John Singer Sargent*
Look at all the crackpot theories in the comments section of this video. Sheesh! Smh
Origin stories have existed since man looked up at the sky.
To call those that wonder crackpots is a little harsh.
Is there a copy of Eusebius you would recommend over another?
You just blew my mind, this video has opened a lot more rabbit holes in my mind, amazing content sir! Brilliant and thank you!
🎉🎉congrads in 100k !!
🎉 Thanks Mandy 🎉
@@TheModernHermeticist 😁
Has anybody else noticed all the alternative history channels popping up all over UA-cam with close to 100,000 subs? It’s crazy. Is this AI?
I've been at this for almost a decade now, no AI here except for a few AI images every now and again
In some versions, Sanchuniathon is cited as having said that Adam was the first man, is this Christian influence from Eusebius or did the Canaanites actually believe this?
Probably has something to do with the fact that Hebrew and Phoenician are related languages, and the word Adam (meaning soil and ruddy) is more ancient than both languages.
Babylonians also studied the stars, believed celestial bodies to be gods, and told tales of monsters that resemble the astrological signs.
Notice how the image of Baal aka El 2 is depicted like a hindu/buddhist wrathful deity. Thats exactly on point
El III, Wrath of Chthulu
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Baal and El were not the same deity
@@atumalaka6 historically. Pretty sure they refer to the same dude.
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@atumalaka6 this relationship is in the same way that horus is Osiris upon the earth between the two horizons. In fact, the two tales describe the same individuals.
really really well done 👍🫡
Many thanks
Man, this comment section is something else. I appreciate the video and find it all very interesting, but I don't understand the snake thing at all. How did the serpent go from being so highly regarded to so a symbol of evil? Is it just because of interpretations of Genesis? Is the serpent representing evil a modern thing?
Anyone who knows, feel free to answer.
My comment sections are often quite a sight to behold. To answer your question about snakes/serpents: the usual answer as to why they were considered good in pagan religions has to do with the shedding of its skin and its regular rebirth. This was thought by the Romans to represent the family genius, which continued to live on despite the death of individuals in a family. In Greece it was associated with the agathodaimon (the Good Spirit) or Zeus Ktesios (the Zeus of the household). The serpent wasn't associated with the devil until much later, since 'ha satan' doesn't make an appearance in the Hebrew Bible until the Book of Job (which admittedly is one of the oldest books), where he serves as the accuser in God's heavenly court. It's a Christian interpretation that brings together a bunch of factors from both the demonization of pagan belief and from a bac-reading of Hebrew scripture. Revelation 12:9 calls Satan "the ancient serpent" based on the fight between YHVH and Leviathan in Isaiah 27, but in the epistles. Paul puts the blame for the original sin squarely on humans, and not on Satan or an ancient serpent. So in brief, it's not a modern thing, but it's a Christian thing which would have been in place by the time of Eusebius.
@@TheModernHermeticist Please give the verse for: " Paul puts the blame for the original sin squarely on humans, and not on Satan or an ancient serpent."
@tiredidealist The serpent is Satan the Devil who was called Lucifer before his fall by his sin, he is first mentioned in the Book called Genesis 3:1, who also in the Book of the Revelation 20:2 is called: " ...the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan ..."
So true to the bone Jehovah salutes you❤❤❤
I thought of this in connection with the Ugaritic story of the Beautiful Gods. In that story, El seems very human, and does nothing more miraculous than father two sets of children. The first set are named Shahar and Shalim, Dawn and Dusk, Beginning and Completion, Hope and Finality. His second set are the ironically named Beautiful Gods, ravenous devourers who roamed the open country to the edge of the desert. War and Disease, Death and Despair. This could describe many families throughout history, 2 good kids and 2 bad kids. In the Ugaritic story, this is a prelude to a feast, and the story is chanted on repeat as the guests file in and are welcomed as Beautiful Gods while someone dressed as 'Death the Ruler' sits on a throne. In his hand, a staff of bereavement. In his hand, a staff of widowhood.
Thank God for Jesus Christ!
I am old and find those that say they follow the lessons of the teacher don't. Most Christians are false and live in paganism . Only one commandment now that we have the good news , if you do this you will have no problem with the father . Love you neighbour , thinking about you .
@kyleklukas4808 Most Christians indeed are false and fake - Jesus said it would be this way. Love you too neighbour.
Thank God for Jesus 🙏🏽
Did you notice the sacrifie of Kronos’ son just as The most high sacrificed his own son Jesus for us.
@bigfrxgz5207 Kronos ate all his children but Rhea saved the youngest.
The title should tell you that this is probably a horror story if you know anything about the Phoenicians.
☼ ~ THE ANCIENT TEXTS ARE BEING RETURNED TO THE PEOPLE ~ ☼
Not exactly. We are in a dark age, an unenlightened age.
@@wisdomoftheages8026The Enlightenment was named by the same orientation that came up with The Patriot Act and the No Child Left Behind Act….that orientation is not aimed at the good, the true, and the beautiful.
I believe it’s intentionally missing the mark because it aims at power not Love.
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Enlightenment did not come from the same perspective as those 2 governmental policies of the USA.
Enlightenment began with the readings of the "classics" and speculations of the various Peoples of pedigreed families and the middle class. This dialogue went into experimentation and criticism. The Enlightenment was partly an attempt towards secularizing the world, ending the dogmatic dominations of superstitions, priests, the college of cardinals, monks, et cetera, whom wanted to live off of the fat created by the Peasants. Just saying. This new group of rulers wanted to use reason, logic and adherence to the law of nature.
Later, in 1870's, was when the West decided God was dead, that the legalists determined natural law was nonexistent.
I am fairly sure the Kosmos is ran by Kaos.
That Formlessness is closer akin to Human essence.
The strict ideals of right, wrong, left, right, dogma, heresy...Human dictates. Words.
Have you lived in the Wilderness?
There is a place of Will power, which is needed to survive
Power without compassion, connections, judiciousness, wisdom, even equity (in the best sense), is selfish, dangerous, destructive, wicked and evil.
Love without seeing the whole picture is delusional. Love without power is ineffective. It may be the time to link the male archetypes of Lucifer and Ahriman for survival of the Human Animus.
We are now in an all consuming matriarchal quagmire, allowing our enemies to take over...foolish, self destructive, unneeded, self loathing, unnecessary.
My opinion is we live within multidimensionality. That pantheism is superior to monotheism. That the spiritual purity needed for the universal God is unnatural, unhuman, unloving and ungodly, as much as all the apologists may rationalize otherwise.
Politics on the other hand is the "entertainment division of the military industrial complex", ~ Frank Zappa.
@@MR-G-Rod your definitely not using the origins or enlightenment. What I speak of predates what you said by thousands of years. I do agree with your last statement though. You are absolutely right. A world without love.. it’s becoming more surreal every day
@@william6223 After many astonishing coincidences, I truly could no longer deny that the Word really did become Flesh so that we might choose to accept Him as our Bride/Groom, through His sacrifice, in order that we may unite with the Father;
For us sinners to unite with Him who is without sin, the pathway to the Father.
He who defeated death with death, who defeated the devil with His Word, and created us in His image.
All so that we may choose to accept Him in our life by living in His story in order that we may experience Love, heaven on earth…and beyond.
It’s something like that and it’s blows my mind every day 🤯in the most incredible ways.
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This was absolutely fantastic. And the imagery was thoughtful and really well chosen. Really interesting to hear their creation story, sounded like nebulas and planet formation.
WOW! THAT WAS GREAT 👍
The Egyptians and Phoenicians are refugees from the collapse of the pre-deluvian Atlantians. who's capital was in north western Africa during the African humid period. There was a civil war in Atlantis, the history of which was passed down in greek myth as the clash of the titans.
More likely the mid Atlantic ridge than the eye in Africa.
@@Bucephalus84 it's north western Africa
The Abraham and Isaac story seems to be borrowed largely from the Saturn myth, maybe seen as an improvement of whereas Abraham is stopped from doing it.
Cronos devoured his offspring. Abraham was stopped from doing that, making him a better protagonist ?
The drama is due to recur in our time. The survivors will carve it on stone for the priests to confuse.
Most excellent
Thanks for watching.
Well right from the start there are some incorrect statements, but it's to be expected.
Sat. uranus down and ponder that .
Im looking for assistance and another head writer for a science fiction about this stuf I'm writing
Why am I unaware of this?
I listened twice :)
So I guess this is on defense of the idea that the religion of the Israelites was essentially equivalent to their neighbors up until the time of king Josiah's reforms.
Thanks I learned a lot
🙏 Thank you kindly
Wonderful
Maybe retitle it honestly: A Christian take on the theology of the Phoenicians
Those colonisers
Indubitably.
Thank you!
Education is impossible without words (or sign based words)
Bravo!🎉
Maya Calendar older than Egypt and the Phoenicians
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Thanks again for the support! Hope you enjoy this one. 🙏🙏🙏
@@TheModernHermeticist Every upload you make sir is like treasure to me… and I’m sure that I am not alone in feeling this way. I thank you kindly for all of your effort and work! 🙏
So they simply started to pop up with inventions and new ideias from thin air? Like, each one had their own eureka moments and boommm .. tecnologies
So who is Christ?
@@lunam7249 helios doesn't translate to son.
He is the only begotten son of the father
kinda he or she who asks innit
"jesus" = "yeh zeus" = roman g-d zeus = yamashuha hamashia
"zeitgiest" 1 , the movie
Dont mean there skin color is black or live in a particular regions
Show me the the true ceremonies (karma) first those of baseness (to acquire those of soundness)
I think this is the etymology of my first name. I’m really blown away.
If your name is Eli, then most certainly.
@@TheModernHermeticist that is a profound thing to learn. Thank you for a very cool video.
No different to Allah, or Ila, or Ennead, or Iliad
Illuminate
@@Uncanny_Mountain goood lord yeah wow brain was just settling after being really blown. Thank you. Just learned how my parents picked my name (good story kinda explain-y) this all really dials in nominative determinism for me. Really love this channel 🤘🪩
Much appreciated daenus. Respect from the east of the West, northern most tribe of Judah, .0013 KJC. OHIO in Japanese I believe isnthe script pronunciation, sorry, learning the language of the stars is difficult in a backwards land with training camps called educational institutions and kids that run their parents lives cuz, duh, lil lil roayles is they. Ahoy
This is by Eusebius, who Wikipedia says was a "Christian polemicist. In about AD 314 he became the bishop of Caesarea Maritima in the Roman province of Syria Palaestina" His works helped lay the foundation for the New Testament, and he was favored by the first Christian Roman Emperor, Constantine. This particular work, according to Wikipedia, "attempts to prove the excellence of Christianity over every pagan religion and philosophy." So he lived at a politically crucial time when the new Christian religion was moving into the power centers of the Mediterranean, and consolidating its influence to change to a new world order. His propaganda made him rich, famous and powerful. In other words, this is a lot of slanderous, garbled nonsense.
Now do Philo of Byblos and Sanchuniathon, the authors that are actually being quoted.
Is there proof cited of exactly where and in which of the works of those two these quotations came from? Can you cite them exactly? @@TheModernHermeticist
But just to take a minute to oblige you, Wikipedia simply says that Philo of Byblos was Jew under the protection of the Roman consul, and got his information on the Phoenicians from Sanchuiathon. Let's all remember that Jews and Phoenicians were sworn enemies, as were Romans and Phoenicians--see the Punic Wars. So he was just a shill, clearly. And on your vaunted Sanchuiathon, Wikipedia has this: "They present a euhemeristic réchauffé of Phoenician theology and mythology, which is represented as translated from the original Phoenician".[1] Sanchuniathon was thought by scholars to be "an imaginary personage, whose name is formed from that of the Phoenician god Sanchon"
For anyone who wonders, euhemeristic means treating myth as real history. Which is a silly, manipulative, and very ill-intentioned thing to do. Turn on your TV for the latest results of that.
I hope you get better and smarter at what you do, and learn to think for yourself someday. @@TheModernHermeticist
Firstly, you're mixing up your Philos. Philo of Byblos is not Philo of Alexandria. He's of Phoenician origins, and was quoted by Porphyry, who was himself a Phoenician, and also an anti-Christian author who did not share Eusebius' biases in any way.
Secondly, you are quoting one scholar from 1911, and cherry-picking a quote that reaffirms your preconceived notions, and I know this because you explicitly omitted the following phrase from the article you're quoting which says "However Edinburgh Professor P. B. R. Forbes wrote that 14th century BC documents from Ras Shamra (ancient Ugarit), published since 1929, have 'proved conclusively that Sanchuniathon is doubtless a verity in view of the many correspondences between him and these fresh texts'."
Thirdly, nowhere did I say I was presenting this material as fact. I just read sources as they are because they are interesting artifacts.
You chose for a title of your video "THE Theology of the Phoenicians" without qualifying it as the opinion of an anti-pagan who worked for the dominant political power of the age. My cherry picking was a quick way of showing that there are doubts and biases, which puts the so-called authority of your ancient texts into strong doubt. These were just humans, and age does not really confer authority. A casual surfer of UA-cam would not realize the context that you leave out of your 'interesting' posts. @@TheModernHermeticist
16:30 how did he “take” wild beasts “from hunting,” & then “many years later,” “the inventors of hunting & fishing” were born? 0_o Time traveler? I feel like having that big of a logical discrepancy within sentences is not great for his credibility. It is an interesting text though. Anywhere Thoth (hallowed be his name) is being discussed, I can’t fail to take interest.
Why even say Phoenician? You mean Canaanites.
Phoenicians are an offshoot of Canaanites and the work was written in Greek which uses Phoinikes.
They're the same people. Phoenician was just the name the Greeks gave to the northern Canaanites who lived in what's now Lebanon and Syria.
Hebrews*
Israelites*
Celts*
Sea People's*
Pirates*
Thank you. Ninaskamon
I think mot is word in french
Yes, in general, but not here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mot_(god)
@@TheModernHermeticist¡ feel like there might be an etymological root connection with *_Ma'at._* • In ancient Egyptian mythology, the weighing of the heart ceremony was a crucial aspect of the afterlife judgment in the Hall of Ma'at. During this judgment, the heart of the deceased was weighed against the feather of Ma'at, the goddess of truth and justice.
Mainly because both deal with aspects of death. Although there's no proper source that'll back up such a claim. So it just remains a homonym false cognate.
so hard to listen to christian writers - they're such haters - such co-dependants - what a great work though - to have perhaps some insight into early man
Ummm, who exactly is not a hater of vicious, psychotic, child sacrifice, at least ? Or of kidnapping and slave trading, grape, dishonest business dealings, ecological destruction of whole landscapes, of rare cedar forests and ruination of marine-scapes, too, just for starters ?
None of this is defamatory. It's descriptive of a complex culture of extremes of good and evil.
Excuse me, what is the pic at :50 from? That’s literally what I saw Hamas doing to Israelis in Oct7
If you're a troll piss off. If not got anything to say about Israelis doing it to Palestinians for 75+ years?
the O.G devil worshippers... this gon be good
heck ya dan
I have seen past what the cultist of the supposed one God see and I see that there are many gods who all have a hand in creation it is not some solitary act of one being,
He has basically played a trick on Humanity where the ones who have their third eyes blind
are unable to remember their own godhood so they fall in line as sheep for his disciples and their various religions.
There's a reason the three big religions don't really encourage you to do any soul-searching or ask to many questions just obey what they say.
The creators of the one God religions are the ones who killed Jesus and prevented you from hearing what he really had to say, threw purposeful Miss-translating and heavy-handed editing of the bible ,
the simple fact that they got to pick and choose what was and was not part of the Bible should tell you something!
That's like how our modern media works where they decide what is and is not news.😂
They are also responsible for distorting history and burning down libraries.
Mean bro, mean, best thing ive read in ages. Im Maori from New Zealand and in our traditional culture we have 72 gods, all playing an essential part in our creation stories. The moon we call marama, the sun we call Ra. And some tribes here in NZ maintain they were sailing around the world before coming to NZ from Hawaiki.
Our consciousness isn't a god. It is of God. [I said, “You are gods, all of you are sons of the Most High.] Psalms 82:6
Yes and here is why. It’s hard for us modern people to understand this but this world was created by the demiurge and the archons who trapped our souls in this time/death matrix to feed on our suffering. This is why the natural world is so fierce with many natural disasters and vicious animals etc... an enlightened being Prometheus/jesus/lucifer stole fire from the gods and gave it too human beings aka gnosis (knowledge) or enlightenment giving us the tools to overcome this world. Which is why many people live comfortable lives right now although the archons and their priests are working to change that. Anyways Jesus came and was trying to tell primitive or simple people this that is why Jesus speaks in parables to try and convey this concept to people who would have trouble understanding. After the death of Jesus many different groups were trying to figure out exactly what he was saying this is where many different branching forms of Christianity/Gnosticism started. However the priests of the archons tried to kill these people but the ideas Jesus left kept spreading so instead of trying to destroy it the priests took the writings of the people trying to interpret Jesus and hid them away except for the nag hammadi scrolls which were hidden. They the took the archon/gods worshipping religion and combined it with the worship of Jesus and created a new false religion Roman Catholicism and during the council of Nicea created the one religion and killed all the other groups of Gnostic/Christians the ones who followed Jesus who said that he cane to destroy the world. This is the battle happening right now one group in the know is waiting for Jesus to come wage war on this false world and another group trying to cheat the nature of this world through transhumanism combining themselves with machine to chest death and become like gods.
at 44 sec they just invented the baseball bat game...apparently you stand on 2 people heads and whack the lady standing on 2 cheetahs lol
This reads like a strange fanfic of all the Gods wtf
"Lili"th was particularly dangerous to all children except her own. Correct?
🤔🤔🤔 But ... calling the astral bodies "Gods" ...
Now I know why the pope wears that hat.
It's tough to keep listening watching when all the pictures are Neanderthal looking. Strange, since we know better....
TRUTH IS EVERYTHING! WHERE DO WE COME FROM? WHY ARE WE HERE? WHERE ARE WE GOING?
Since no living human can ever answer that question authoritatively, feel free to make up your own answer and put it in a book.
Good listening but the author is completely unaware of Hellenic mystism and hidden symbolism which are also going accordingly with the ones from the previous cultures as well.
He's aware of it because he explicitly denies it as a later invention
@@TheModernHermeticist I'll try to keep this short, but he is right, it's mystery is in hidden symbolism, and spoken in allegory. The heavens produce their chosen one, much of that story was spoken in allegory, I'll try to use as much of it as I can, keeping it short and simple, but it still may be a bit long, I'll try to keep about the gates and the gate keeper.
The Golden Gate of the Gods is located in Sagittarius, the center of our galaxy, where stars are born, they called gods. The Silver Gate of Man is found between Gemini and Taurus, Orion stands in the center. In astrology, Gemini are the arm and hands, Taurus is the throat that you speak from, but also swallow from. Sagittarius is the hips and thighs, Scorpio is the sexual organ, squeezed in between them is Ophiuchus, let's call it the womb, the 7 main stars form the shape of a cave door, pyramidal on top, a mountain, the belly of the mother goddess, let's not forget, 7 stars form the outline of Orion, the 8th is found on his Thigh, the bright star at the tip of his sword "Hatysa", meaning "slaughter", as Gohatya means "Cow Killer", but in Hebrew, haat means "to sin", yasa means "savior", read backwards "Savior of Sinners". Why does Orion have both a club and a sword?, Because the club once hung at Orion Nebula, now it is a flow of his blood, that carries his seed, in Sumerian, Haya means "grain", Haya was the god of Scribes, known as the Door-Keeper, later we'll come back to this star, but first, the removal of Orion's penis/club.
The location of the Sun on the day of the summer solstice, is at the tip of Orion's club, on the day of the winter solstice, its next to a little bloody red spot in Sagittarius called Spiculum, meaning "spear". Asclepius is associated with Ophiuchus, known as the first physician. All physicians known that you put the speculum into a woman, if you want to see where babies come from. The other 7 stars are found in Thigh of the Ox Leg, Ursa Major, which was the consort to Draco, the goddess Taweret, portrayed as a bipedal hippopotamus with limbs like those of a lion. Her hand rests on the sa sign, 𓎃, a hieroglyph that means 'protection' or 'lifesaver'. In Sumerian, Ur means "Dog", next to the two is the standing wolf (dog) on a plough/bar, Polaris was known as the Dog's Tail, but symbol of the standing wolf on a bar, is the symbol of Wepwawet, the protector of the belly.
The head of Draco was seen as a seed cup, they say Draco gets its name from Dagon the inventor of the plow, inside the seed cup was the dying and rising god of rebirth, known as "the Child" Damu, son of Pabilsag/Sagittarius, his mother was the Dog headed goddess Bau-Gula, known as the first physician, where Damu gets his healing ability, Damu was known as The Swine Star, a hippopotamus, a water swine. Bau-Gula was the Harp Star Vega, our pole star 12,000 years ago.
If you place Hatysa on the western horizon, from around 30 - 35 degree north latitude, it will place Alula at midheaven, it means first born, it is the thumb on a wing, symbols, one of Judgement the other Messenger. Go backwards 6,606 hours, you find the same alignment, in the month of December, but the time is 7 hours apart, if you take away the 7 hours to make them the same time, Alula is found on the northern horizon, along with the two sets of twin stars that form the paws of Ursa Major, replaced at midheaven by Vega. If you use the first week of September, let's say the 6th, it lands on the 5th of December, with the Sun in centered with Ophiuchus, Do you know what the 5th of December has to do with caves. On September 6th, the Sun is still in Leo, The Sumerian word Ur-Gula means Both Lion and Great Dog.
Play the words "Her Message, Say There Is A Guest, Her Bid One, Wise Quotes" in reverse, you hear it echo "Scorpio, November, Sagittarius, December", sounds like a wise guest coming through the gold gate of the gods.
Play the words "Yam, Say Oath, Newest, Beyond The Mist, They All Rule" in reverse, they echo "Orion, Gemini, June, Taurus, May", Yam is Yama, meaning Twin, Yama is god of the dead like Osiris is, Yama was sacrificed by Manu, first man, used his body to create Earth and Mankind.
Play the words "I Cupps, Scare Earth My Arm Of Nuit, Her Mithras, Boy/Girl" in reverse, they echo "Virgo, September, Vindemiatrix, Spica". Virgo, Latin for Virgin, ah but 'vir' is Latin for Man, gin is from 'gyne', Greek for Woman, the word Virgin hides Man/Woman, like Virgo hides Boy/Girl.
Play the words "Way, I'll Open It, So They Go, See God", played in reverse the echo "August, Regulus, Denebola, Leo"
That is as short as I can get it, but I had to remove a lot, like September 4th to 8th 2040, when all the visible planets align with Spica looking like a Spiculum, played in reverse "Mother Cupps" and Hatysa played in reverse "iosa', September 8th is the birthday of Mary, 2040 the first day of the new moon, the 6th is 16 days from the fall equinox, 106 days from the winter solstice, 169 days from the spring equinox, all will reduce to a 7, the summer solstice is 77 days from the 6th, remove 7 days, August 31st is 183 days either way to February 29th, Leap Day, when the 6th is the 250th day of the year, 115 days left.
Maybe my next comment shows those numbers with the planets.
Zeus maleakios hey. The first channeler of Saturn. Satans resting place.
The lost wisdom of the ages. Who knew? It’s kind of like ancient Scientology
Wow, the Phoenicians certainly had a whole lot of claptrap wallowing around in their heads, given that they were master seamen, master mapmakers, master traders, master shipbuilders, master craftsmen and the givers of the alphabet to the Mediterranean! How did they manage to be so rational, so methodical, so smart, so intellectually accomplished, so precise, so knowledgeable and so ferociously focused on ONE endeavor - sea trade! - with all those weird stories and god-begettings to remember to tell their children?
I think Zecharia Sitchin was right, that all these schizophrenic 'gods' - warring with each other, giving humans life and gifts of civilization on the one hand and punishing us and demanding sacrifices on the other...and I'm surprised they don't mention The Flood, attempting to wipe us all out...were actually super-arrogant, immoral, fickle, advanced intelligence Aliens who messed with us to create their slaves and then abandoned us when they got bored, or perhaps got punished themselves and called to account by a higher power.
What a lot of jerks they were, on the whole.
That's exactly what I think the situation is. They came across a place with animalistic humanoids, messed with the DNA.. that good ol' missing link.. and probably took off when there were cataclysms or they were tired of keeping the non-stop breeding slave/labor class in check. Now they're making robots and AI.. now they can take the "useless eaters" (in their minds) out of the equation
The swan headed turtle islander was Nihiyaw. So we’re all the people you’re talking about. Except the ones that worship Saturn. Satans resting place.