For the longest time it was all about power to weight ratio… and it still is to a point but this is the era of transmissions. Used to be a debate of manual vs automatic and it wasn’t even hardly a debate as manuals have almost always traditionally been faster but now you’ve got CVT vs DCT vs 8&10speed torque converter transmissions and they’re making all the difference in outcomes in races. I’m personally more of a fan of the DCTs and 10 speeds, I think they should be the industry standard going forward.
Not everyone cares about a car that will drive and handle well, putting a DCT, and 10 spd in a car is not cheap and the buyer’s pocket will notice that.
That’s when zf8 speed comes in play it is the best automatic ever to this date ! Most high performance cars / trucks use it! Including new Supra, Hellcats/demons / track hawks/ new m5/m4/m3 and more!
@@HD_Kerino Oh completely agree…. That’s how we end up with the environment we have now where manufacturers can’t agree on which transmission to put in their own models let alone what they should have as competition to their rivals. Cost is THE major factor for most cars so I completely understand why civics and nissans come with CVTs…. And in theory a CVT should be perfect from a performance perspective…. And in 10-20 years maybe CVTs will be light years better but if I had to guess gasoline engines and all the fancy advances in transmissions will be the equivalent of the new technology that was showing up in horse buggies right before cars came out. (None of this is going to matter in 20-40years with electric antonymous drones/cars on the horizon)
I Don't know, maybe because the other car has forced induction? Plus the J Series 3.5L is not a DOHC engine and only has VTEC on the intake side. My Honda Element AWD has an engine swapped from a Acura TSX and N/A tuned for 300 HP. If the Element wasn't so heavy, I could possible take on both cars.
@@applepoop10 true but forced induction is kinda just unfair. With a stage 2 tune and some mods this car would walk whatever NA V6 is out there. I have mine at 310whp and 330wtq weighing at 3298lbs
the TLX AWD adds alot weight, but handling is apples to oranges. I've driven many Accords and TL/TLX over the last twenty years, and nothing compares with the handling of the AWD system on those Acura's. Straight line speed, the Honda is lighter, but I've taken a TLX on a mountain twisting road and never felt threatened on what speed I was going and left many cars behind. Lastly, the AWD in bad weather like rain and snow is crazy good.
@@youngsneaker5382 I am from ghana and a lot of guys believe the c300 is quicker than the accord. Been wanting a video to show the people here Lol. Even the e300
Yeah I had a 2017 accord v6 and that thing is a monster, gearing is perfect imo. Now have the 2020 2.0t accord and it’s impressive but I fee like the v6 accord would launch harder
@@dominicjeanb2063 my 2015 was plenty quick. From a 20 or a 50, it was deceivingly quick (for what it is). Quicker than my J37 swapped Type S. I think the 2.0T shines after 60 but would still be interesting to see.
Yeah. Agreed. I like this version of the TLX 2020 A spec better than the current type S. Type S is waaay to overpriced and is weaker compared to competition.
To be fair, a current gen BMW 330i, Genesis G70 2.0T, and Mercedes C300 would also lose to the Accord. So a previous gen TLX losing to an Accord isn't a big shocker.
@@garys2157 Sam already raced the Accord vs the 330i xDrive. The Honda won 2 of the dig races and *all* the roll races. The Bimmer edged ahead in a dig race when traction control was disabled.
@@mackfar27 Acura is the upscale brand of Homda. This means the Acura will have better appointments and options than its it's less brothers at a higher price point.
Unless those are lightweight aftermarket rims, he made it slower by putting heavier bigger rims on the TLX. Probably could've taken the W, or been very close.
Definitely would not of taken the W, but at least would’ve put up a fight. The rims make a difference, but not drastic enough to make the TLX win because the races weren’t close.
@@Anakin0217 I timed before and after with lightweight rims and got half second quicker 0-60 with Dragy, that's a huge difference imo. So, definitely helps off the line, but not a huge difference on a roll.
Oh TLX...its tough to pay at least $10k more for bells and jingles but no performance at all. Even the Type S, the best of TLX, can't beat any of its competition 🙈. And what did the Acura guy say? The performance division of Honda??? Honestly it's more like Honda is the performance division of Acura 😎.
You want a 4200lb luxury sport sedan to beat competitors 500 lbs less is obviously not going to happen… but to say the car has no performance because it’s not beating it’s competitors with more horsepower is kind of saying the NSX has no performance because it can’t beat its competitors lmao and there’s performance in the Type S but Acura knows people will tune the car once bought so why would they waste the resources to do so themselves… they don’t need the extra propaganda because they know when to compete and when to chill… TLX is a chill car… you want a quick luxury sedan for 60k go with Kia or Lexus
You could argue anyway you want but if Acura released a car that can't beat any of its competition, honestly that's sad. Especially the Type S. It's definitely the performance version of its lineup, but it just can't win a drag race. I bet you the Type R (lighter but with much smaller engine) would likely walk the Type S in 1/2 mile even with FWD launch issue. Accord has proven to beat any TLX A Spec effortlessly. I'm pretty sure Civic hatch touring would also walk the top ILX model. So to say that Acura is the performance division of Honda just sounds WRONG. Perhaps it should say Acura is the Luxury division of Honda. LOL. Tuning? So if u tune your Type S and ppl are tuning their cars, most likely they Type S will get smoked again. How about their approach they have on the new Integra (going back to its roots???), The new design is heavily inspired by the old Integra? Really?? Unfortunately NONE of what they said made sense to me. The Integra prototype would've been perfect if it was the new gen ILX. Don't get me wrong, I used to be an Acura fan and had many Acuras in the past. But as time goes, I think Acura has been really DISAPPOINTING, and I'm not the only one disappointed. Not sure what their visions are. But all I can say is Good Luck to Acura.
I wonder how the TLX would do if it had the better 10 speed found in the Accord. The TLX's 9 speed really blows. No doubt the Accord is the better deal.
Yeah I mean even the 8 speed the 4 cylinder TLX gets is a better trans really weird they wouldn’t give either of those to the top end TLX of that model year
The FWD 1G TLX would have made for a closer contest. I had a 19 3.5 PAWS base, which was relatively bare bones compared with the A-Spec SH-AWD but lighter and quicker.
I have an Accord Sport 2.0t, my coworker has a TLX the same as the on in this video. I sent him this video on Friday for a laugh. Not sure if he found it funny or not lol
Honestly embarrassed at Acura. No Accord should beat a TLX. That's why I will keep driving my 2012 TL-SHAWD until Acura makes a sub 4 second car. It's gotta do at least 3.9 sec 0-60 for me to consider putting any money towards one. Otherwise, just save your money and buy the Accord. Or a 10 year old Mercedes or BMW or a 2013 Audi RS7. Props to the Accord for punching above its weight class!
And that is why I will never buy Acura again. Currently have the 1st gen A-Spec and the car is extremely bad when it comes to performance. Even with the new Type-S or Type-Slow it’s such an embarrassment to the brand that there is no hope for them unless next year they push the power to at least 410+ HP.
Today everyone is RUNNING WITH Turbos// TODAY DRIVING A LEGENDARY N/A v6 from Honda and nothing get close ! in 5 years this engine is going to be a Legend and all those turbos going for trade in car This Generation of TLX is one of the Last Natural V6 on the market yes is not a rocket but is not turtle 290 Hp at the crank is enough to enjoy back road ./// don t sleep this car make 14.3 sec stock
The biggest problem with Acuras is their unnecessary weight. That old TLX is 3840lbs and the new one is over 4100. Thats why they always get gapped by cars in their same class.
I keep researching different cars I think would be fast and fun, only to almost inevitably find they cost more and aren't much if any faster than the 2.0t Accord. I guess I'll just have to accept it and get an Accord.
@@phillyspitta8147 I have a Korean car now, and it's been hit and miss with quality. On the positive, its made it to almost 200k miles. But it's nickeled and dimed me from the beginning. That said, I searched for a K5 GT and there were zero within 100 miles. Pushing it out to 500 miles and only found 5 in stock. I feel like with so few out there, it might be problematic down the road when it needs replacement parts.
@@jay.fromthebay it's my wife's 2012 Kia Sedona. It's at 190k now and admittedly, the engine and trans work as well as well as they always dis, but have had lots of less than critical repairs. A/c compressor Air bag sensor Oil pressure sensor 4 times (2 under warranty) Leaky oil filter housing HVAC blower motor 3 of 4 door handles are broken - one rear slider is permanently jammed. The dealer shop couldn't get it opened even. They recommended a body shop. Door ajar sensor on rear hatch Belt tensioner Alternator Lower control arms Rear seats jammed and won't fold A Coil pack failed The stitching on the driver's seat ripped open under 100k miles I know some of these are probably typical wear items. It's been paid for for a long time so I've been willing to put up with a lot.
Hey Sam whenever you do the roll races with the accord 2.0t I usually use paddle shifters but I left it shift for me after I take off I just use it because the accord has a slow peddle command when flooring it in automatic mode.
Now I see Acura really failed in the weight department. the older one weighed this less than the new one with the bigger 3.50engine. Than that means if the 2021 had the 3.5, it would be slower than the 2020 model.
I am seeing Dyno numbers of stock 10th Gen 2.0t Accords in the 280 HP / 310 Tq (15% corrected) that is well above stock for number. I think Honda may have understated the 2.0t Accord on purpose. AWD would be nice, but that adds weight and I think it would be slower than the TLX A-Spec at that point. If I could have found a TLX Type-S for a good price I would have gone that route, but I ended up buying a used 10th gen 2.0t Touring and it is a nice around the town cruiser for my use.
Every pound counts specially on a 4 banger. Knew it was the TLX but everyone did a great job of pointing fingers so went way off. Liked the trivia question, unique to your content. Love it.
Lmao if I was the owner of this Accord, my head would be so big 😂. This car has destroyed so many things that it shouldn’t, all while being lowkey about it. Wild
For the longest time it was all about power to weight ratio… and it still is to a point but this is the era of transmissions. Used to be a debate of manual vs automatic and it wasn’t even hardly a debate as manuals have almost always traditionally been faster but now you’ve got CVT vs DCT vs 8&10speed torque converter transmissions and they’re making all the difference in outcomes in races.
I’m personally more of a fan of the DCTs and 10 speeds, I think they should be the industry standard going forward.
Not everyone cares about a car that will drive and handle well, putting a DCT, and 10 spd in a car is not cheap and the buyer’s pocket will notice that.
That’s when zf8 speed comes in play it is the best automatic ever to this date ! Most high performance cars / trucks use it! Including new Supra, Hellcats/demons / track hawks/ new m5/m4/m3 and more!
@@HD_Kerino
Oh completely agree…. That’s how we end up with the environment we have now where manufacturers can’t agree on which transmission to put in their own models let alone what they should have as competition to their rivals.
Cost is THE major factor for most cars so I completely understand why civics and nissans come with CVTs…. And in theory a CVT should be perfect from a performance perspective…. And in 10-20 years maybe CVTs will be light years better but if I had to guess gasoline engines and all the fancy advances in transmissions will be the equivalent of the new technology that was showing up in horse buggies right before cars came out. (None of this is going to matter in 20-40years with electric antonymous drones/cars on the horizon)
the hp is not measured on the dyno so it is not that accurate
i bet the 2.0T makes more power than the v6 ever did
@hon solo oh it’s smooth alright you don’t know what you’re talking about
The TLX gen 1 actually had the ZF 9 speed.
This has a 9 speed
@@kiastingergt2231 not a zee eff
Should've came with a stick
@@Tom-dz4sp
The 1st-gen V6 TLX had the ZF-9HP, which is made by ZF.
@Tom-dz4sp it's a zf transmission I have one of these cars bud
Always wondered how different the previous TLX A-Spec would do against the Accord 2.0T - awesome stuff (close but not that close indeed)
A-Spec owners should be upset, for spending the extra money.
My stock 07 tl type s can walk a tlx a spec for sure and possibly the accord too lol
My stock 07 tl type s can walk the tlx a spec for sure possibly the accord too
@@gsrjaycee4521 07 race against the accord would be interesting.
AWD weight vs FWD weight, this TLX is still 600 lbs heavier than the Accord...
You’ve literally hit the nail on the head on this one brother, been waiting so long!! 🐐🤙🤝
I’ve been wanting to see this drag for a while, but it’s no surprise that the accord took this that 2.0t with Vtec is a monster
I Don't know, maybe because the other car has forced induction? Plus the J Series 3.5L is not a DOHC engine and only has VTEC on the intake side. My Honda Element AWD has an engine swapped from a Acura TSX and N/A tuned for 300 HP. If the Element wasn't so heavy, I could possible take on both cars.
I don't think it has vtec. Only the type r does.
@@applepoop10 true but forced induction is kinda just unfair. With a stage 2 tune and some mods this car would walk whatever NA V6 is out there. I have mine at 310whp and 330wtq weighing at 3298lbs
@@applepoop10 the accord only has VTEC on the intake side too.
@@noahpike8274 what you running for 60 and 1/4? im thinking of doing a downpipe and ktuner only for the best value for performance
Accord is gonna win of course Type R badge = 31HP and Black fuel door = 29HP!
All he needed was a trd Camry wing on it in black n he was def gonna win 😆
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@joelrojasp7573 the blacked out door is like NoS
the TLX AWD adds alot weight, but handling is apples to oranges. I've driven many Accords and TL/TLX over the last twenty years, and nothing compares with the handling of the AWD system on those Acura's. Straight line speed, the Honda is lighter, but I've taken a TLX on a mountain twisting road and never felt threatened on what speed I was going and left many cars behind. Lastly, the AWD in bad weather like rain and snow is crazy good.
If you need AWD in the rain, just don't drive. It's safer for the rest of us
@@nittojoe136is that what he said ? or that it handles well ....
Can't stand people who say stuff like that ^^
Still patiently waiting for the accord vs c class
The C300 will get dragged by the Accord
C300 loses by a good 4-5 cars . He already ran the 330i bmw and the accord won . The 330i is a bit faster than the c300 .
@@youngsneaker5382 I am from ghana and a lot of guys believe the c300 is quicker than the accord. Been wanting a video to show the people here Lol. Even the e300
@@samarllimited1928 the accord is faster then he c300 and the e300
I’ve raced 2 C300s and beat them by a pretty large margin. I’ve got a 6mt 2.0 stage 2 (at the time)
Would love to see a 2013-17 V6 Accord vs the 2.0T.
Would be closer.
Yeah I had a 2017 accord v6 and that thing is a monster, gearing is perfect imo. Now have the 2020 2.0t accord and it’s impressive but I fee like the v6 accord would launch harder
@@dominicjeanb2063 my 2015 was plenty quick. From a 20 or a 50, it was deceivingly quick (for what it is). Quicker than my J37 swapped Type S. I think the 2.0T shines after 60 but would still be interesting to see.
2.0T is quicker, if you watch Redline review, he shows a race between the 2.
Its out there, the 2.0T takes ir
@@blackwhirlwind1245 yeah that was at higher altitudes though.
A 13-17 accord v6 coupe manual would be an interesting race to see Sam . nontheless great content as always 🔥
I love the V6 manual coup’s from those years. Nice cars.
I think the results will be the same but the gap wouldn’t be as big
Is the 13-17 6 speed coupe faster than the 08 6 speed coupe??
@@edmondvuong 6MT V6 is considerably quicker than TLX. Even the 6AT V6 is quicker.
Guys, the auto is quicker than the manual. Lol.
I'm be honest last gens TLX has a better design would have been dope to see a type s model
Yeah. Agreed. I like this version of the TLX 2020 A spec better than the current type S. Type S is waaay to overpriced and is weaker compared to competition.
At this point ACURA should compete with bicycles...
To be fair, a current gen BMW 330i, Genesis G70 2.0T, and Mercedes C300 would also lose to the Accord. So a previous gen TLX losing to an Accord isn't a big shocker.
@@TheBreakfastLover I think the BMW would be pretty much even match.
@@garys2157 Sam already raced the Accord vs the 330i xDrive. The Honda won 2 of the dig races and *all* the roll races. The Bimmer edged ahead in a dig race when traction control was disabled.
🤣🤣🤣
I’m an Acura fan and I found this freaking funny 😂😂😂😂. Our “slow” Acuras will be fast for the next generation lol
If the TLX had the final drive from the Pilot and MDX, it would be quicker. That direct injected V6 is music.
What I have learned from watching this video, is to not waist your money on a Acura.
You can get more luxury options in the Acura.
@@fredeb67 I guess… Considering that Honda isn’t that basic with their interiors anymore…
@@mackfar27 Acura is the upscale brand of Homda. This means the Acura will have better appointments and options than its it's less brothers at a higher price point.
Unless those are lightweight aftermarket rims, he made it slower by putting heavier bigger rims on the TLX. Probably could've taken the W, or been very close.
Definitely would not of taken the W, but at least would’ve put up a fight. The rims make a difference, but not drastic enough to make the TLX win because the races weren’t close.
@@Anakin0217 I timed before and after with lightweight rims and got half second quicker 0-60 with Dragy, that's a huge difference imo. So, definitely helps off the line, but not a huge difference on a roll.
It would’ve been closer but he still would’ve lost
My Turbo Verloster vs those cars
Lol
I luv my accord 2.0t! I'm happy to see it win a race here from time to time!
I miss my 2018 accord but now I have Acura RDX. Accord is the best sport sedan under $4k
still waiting on the fusion sport vs some of these rides!! thanks for posting, Sam
I had a 06 fusion in 08 and nobody knew what it was and I threw some 20's on it and I miss it.
I'm SHOCKED - Sam was 4 for 4 today!😄
Oh TLX...its tough to pay at least $10k more for bells and jingles but no performance at all. Even the Type S, the best of TLX, can't beat any of its competition 🙈. And what did the Acura guy say? The performance division of Honda??? Honestly it's more like Honda is the performance division of Acura 😎.
You want a 4200lb luxury sport sedan to beat competitors 500 lbs less is obviously not going to happen… but to say the car has no performance because it’s not beating it’s competitors with more horsepower is kind of saying the NSX has no performance because it can’t beat its competitors lmao and there’s performance in the Type S but Acura knows people will tune the car once bought so why would they waste the resources to do so themselves… they don’t need the extra propaganda because they know when to compete and when to chill… TLX is a chill car… you want a quick luxury sedan for 60k go with Kia or Lexus
You could argue anyway you want but if Acura released a car that can't beat any of its competition, honestly that's sad. Especially the Type S. It's definitely the performance version of its lineup, but it just can't win a drag race. I bet you the Type R (lighter but with much smaller engine) would likely walk the Type S in 1/2 mile even with FWD launch issue. Accord has proven to beat any TLX A Spec effortlessly. I'm pretty sure Civic hatch touring would also walk the top ILX model. So to say that Acura is the performance division of Honda just sounds WRONG. Perhaps it should say Acura is the Luxury division of Honda. LOL. Tuning? So if u tune your Type S and ppl are tuning their cars, most likely they Type S will get smoked again. How about their approach they have on the new Integra (going back to its roots???), The new design is heavily inspired by the old Integra? Really?? Unfortunately NONE of what they said made sense to me. The Integra prototype would've been perfect if it was the new gen ILX. Don't get me wrong, I used to be an Acura fan and had many Acuras in the past. But as time goes, I think Acura has been really DISAPPOINTING, and I'm not the only one disappointed. Not sure what their visions are. But all I can say is Good Luck to Acura.
Acura’s are soooooooooo slow . What the hell is wrong with that brand???? Honda’s are faster then their premium cousins. Makes no damn sense
The Acura looks really nice with those wheels, sounds nice too. But man that 2.0 turbo is no joke.
If those rims on the tlx are heavier than the stock ones. He made the car slower. Nonetheless that accord is god tier
That Honda 10 speed putting in some work 👌
Finally!!! Been waiting for this specific video for soooo long! Thanks Sam
This is the only channel where I get to see Hondas racing. Next is Hondas vs the world.
actually there is a guy that races his Accord at the track and posts videos all the time against all kinds of cars
I wanna see an RLX sport hybrid on this channel lol
It’s the same performance as the TLX Type S
@@drivescene6747 that’s sad lmao, sad for the type s
@@JudgeFXX lol I still love it, hopefully Acura will give it a hp boost for the refresh
@@drivescene6747 yeah the type s looks amazing, but it sucks that even a new golf r will smoke you
@@JudgeFXX true, gotta pick your stoplight battles when driving a Type S lol
I've been waiting for this video for the longest.. thank u sam
I wonder how the TLX would do if it had the better 10 speed found in the Accord. The TLX's 9 speed really blows. No doubt the Accord is the better deal.
Yeah I mean even the 8 speed the 4 cylinder TLX gets is a better trans really weird they wouldn’t give either of those to the top end TLX of that model year
Shocker- the non rice accord won unlike that thing that races the type s
It’s the same one
no it’s not, the other one had a trd wing and black taillights
@@b1bo840 it's the same, Owner updated few things.
@@precisionmotors more like downgrade
10 extra HP for the hicki there Sam .. you are the real MVP 💯
The FWD 1G TLX would have made for a closer contest. I had a 19 3.5 PAWS base, which was relatively bare bones compared with the A-Spec SH-AWD but lighter and quicker.
Pretty much neck to neck when I’m racing my 2.0t against my boys tlx base, we start from a roll 40mph
He does have aftermarket rims maybe heavier?
Sam! Love u but u had promised a GLI video before another accord! 4-0 now :(
It’s coming
@@SamCarLegion you are the best!!! :D awesome!!
I swear that honda is intentionally understating the Accords performance
The 2wd /FWD TLX a-spec, would be a more equal race for the 2.0 Accord
You are always putting out great content Sam!!
I have an Accord Sport 2.0t, my coworker has a TLX the same as the on in this video. I sent him this video on Friday for a laugh. Not sure if he found it funny or not lol
Ok now honda accord 2.0t owners don't go around bullying acura drivers on the road lol
I have a 2.0 and bully c300 tlx g37 even Q50 is it feels so good
The acuras look fire
It would be nice to see them make an accord Type R!
It basically a type R already k20c4 is close to k20c1
Me being a proud owner of a Honda 2.0… This makes me smile 😌😁😬
Is the owner of the Accord hiding a Hondata tune? It serious has won every match up you have put it against.
Honestly embarrassed at Acura. No Accord should beat a TLX. That's why I will keep driving my 2012 TL-SHAWD until Acura makes a sub 4 second car. It's gotta do at least 3.9 sec 0-60 for me to consider putting any money towards one.
Otherwise, just save your money and buy the Accord. Or a 10 year old Mercedes or BMW or a 2013 Audi RS7.
Props to the Accord for punching above its weight class!
Good video hopefully there will be a 1.5t vs V6 drag race in the future. Also this may be a weird request but I’d like to see a Minivan drag race.
Kia carnival vs the rest
I want to see a 4G TL vs the new accord since they are the fastest TL/TLX other than the TypeS
I would love to to that!
Also the aftermarket wheels on the TLX look bigger and heavier than stock. That will affect the TLX negatively.
Do you also see the chunky wheels on the honda?
@@cv2angel I thought those were the stock Sport wheels.
@@bsowhat they are stock and also heavy as hell
@@cv2angel All stock Honda wheels are heavy as hell...
@@johnwatson6181'01-06 Insight has entered the chat.
Clean win for the Accord 💯
How this little 2.0 is smoking everyone in its class and out of its class too..??? 🤔😅
They probably have something in the works down the road.
500 pounds less, more torque and a much better transmission...No brainer for the Accord
now THIS is the race i’ve been waiting to see
Videographer: “He’s closer now…. On second thought, kinda…”
If you could, I would love to see that Accord 2.0T race a Gen 2 Acura TL Type-S. Love your channel keep it up!!👍
Are people still trying to pretend their car has a panoramic sunroof or carbon fiber roof on white cars? 😄
Type-R Accord rumor has it….. Hopefully we see it next year for 2023 model.
Mr.Sam is that a hickey on your neck 😂😂
Accord 2.0t vs Tesla plaid next!! Joking lol but this 2.0t accord 10 speed is really fast for what it is!
And that is why I will never buy Acura again. Currently have the 1st gen A-Spec and the car is extremely bad when it comes to performance. Even with the new Type-S or Type-Slow it’s such an embarrassment to the brand that there is no hope for them unless next year they push the power to at least 410+ HP.
Honda Accord v6 2017 coupe vs 2.0t Accord
V6TLX all day for me with more weight and luggage in the trunk V6 will always be more seamless and smooth.
Sam Accord 2.0T vs precious Gen V6 Accord. Please.
Error 404: Vtec not found
Today everyone is RUNNING WITH Turbos//
TODAY DRIVING A LEGENDARY N/A v6 from Honda and nothing get close !
in 5 years this engine is going to be a Legend and all those turbos going for trade in car
This Generation of TLX is one of the Last Natural V6 on the market yes is not a rocket but is not turtle
290 Hp at the crank is enough to enjoy back road ./// don t sleep this car make 14.3 sec stock
Nice seeing the Accord back in the winners circle.
The biggest problem with Acuras is their unnecessary weight. That old TLX is 3840lbs and the new one is over 4100. Thats why they always get gapped by cars in their same class.
I wish the Honda Accord Had AWD it’s only right.. We in 2021 .. About to be in 2022 .. Come on Honda
I owned same TLX , top end acceleration was horrible on this car. Doesn’t surprise me accord is faster.
Could the aftermarket rims on the Acura made it slower?
Thee accord is in its own class at this point.
Accord 2.0t = legendary
I keep researching different cars I think would be fast and fun, only to almost inevitably find they cost more and aren't much if any faster than the 2.0t Accord. I guess I'll just have to accept it and get an Accord.
I say go wit da accord it seems or dat K5 gt seems okay but I can’t deal wit a Kia Korean ain’t for me
@@phillyspitta8147 I have a Korean car now, and it's been hit and miss with quality. On the positive, its made it to almost 200k miles. But it's nickeled and dimed me from the beginning.
That said, I searched for a K5 GT and there were zero within 100 miles. Pushing it out to 500 miles and only found 5 in stock. I feel like with so few out there, it might be problematic down the road when it needs replacement parts.
@@busslayer4790 yeah I got two Lexus for reason bro bro never nickel n done only brakes n oil changes tires here n there
@@busslayer4790 what car do you have currently and what work have you had to do? It's interesting hearing real cost of ownership from owners.
@@jay.fromthebay it's my wife's 2012 Kia Sedona. It's at 190k now and admittedly, the engine and trans work as well as well as they always dis, but have had lots of less than critical repairs.
A/c compressor
Air bag sensor
Oil pressure sensor 4 times (2 under warranty)
Leaky oil filter housing
HVAC blower motor
3 of 4 door handles are broken - one rear slider is permanently jammed. The dealer shop couldn't get it opened even. They recommended a body shop.
Door ajar sensor on rear hatch
Belt tensioner
Alternator
Lower control arms
Rear seats jammed and won't fold
A Coil pack failed
The stitching on the driver's seat ripped open under 100k miles
I know some of these are probably typical wear items. It's been paid for for a long time so I've been willing to put up with a lot.
Wow, pocket rocket it is. Thankfully the type S beats this and all other acuras.
... AWD AND Hatchback would make the Accord perfect!
2022 Type-R will be I guess :)
Nothing surprising,the 2.0t accord should spank those tlx without any trouble .They are heavy and slow.
I know car manufacturers are touting the turbo w/4cyl but the v6 is Cream De-Ville as demonstrated in the Acura over the Honda.😅
Whole lot of 2.0t accord love its great
Hey Sam whenever you do the roll races with the accord 2.0t I usually use paddle shifters but I left it shift for me after I take off I just use it because the accord has a slow peddle command when flooring it in automatic mode.
The 10th gen accord was the best and will never be replaced
I saw the race again and that Acura is 540 pound heavier than the Accord so if you put the same weight on the Accord is a 2021 TLX
2.0T is a beast
Do the fwd tlx v6 vs accord
Would like to see a G35 HR sedan vs the Accord. Looks like it would be a dead heat..
this channel might rename to accord vs the world
Accord vs a4 !!
The new Audi A4 clocked a faster 1/4 then the Acura TSX Type S 13.5 to 13.6 according to Car and Driver.
Now I see Acura really failed in the weight department. the older one weighed this less than the new one with the bigger 3.50engine. Than that means if the 2021 had the 3.5, it would be slower than the 2020 model.
It's the 9spd in the 3.5 TLX that kills its performance, if it had the accords 10 spd it would've won for sure.
@@RevsALot agreed, the ZF9 was nothing but trouble for the J-series.
If the accord had AWD and about 290 it would probably beat the type S . Between 290 and 320. It's already not that far off.
@hon solo yeah I can see that being the case . Honda is known to underrate their engines . I honestly believe the previous 9th gen v 6 had around 300
It would probably be the same, AWD will add a lot of weight!
Would love to see if you can find a tuned accord 2.0t with downpipe and intake and see how it stacks up against some cars!
Oh you mean like a ricer. Get the f outta here fast & furious boy
Great races, thanks for making this video!
I am seeing Dyno numbers of stock 10th Gen 2.0t Accords in the 280 HP / 310 Tq (15% corrected) that is well above stock for number. I think Honda may have understated the 2.0t Accord on purpose.
AWD would be nice, but that adds weight and I think it would be slower than the TLX A-Spec at that point. If I could have found a TLX Type-S for a good price I would have gone that route, but I ended up buying a used 10th gen 2.0t Touring and it is a nice around the town cruiser for my use.
I bought mine under msrp. They had a used one with 13k for 49 but I didn't want it, it was a 21.
Why do you race FWD against AWD? It's not apples to apples. Please race TLX 2.0t FWD vs Accord FWD 2.0t...its the only way to get a real result.
If y'all was local,I'll have something for that Accord. Another Accord🤣, but the 6-6 coupe👀
Acura is a luxury version of Honda. Built for comfort. Who gives a fuk if regular Hondas are more aerodynamic 🤣
Every pound counts specially on a 4 banger. Knew it was the TLX but everyone did a great job of pointing fingers so went way off. Liked the trivia question, unique to your content. Love it.
Lmao if I was the owner of this Accord, my head would be so big 😂. This car has destroyed so many things that it shouldn’t, all while being lowkey about it.
Wild
i wanna see a tuned accord vs tlx type s
Sam is it just me or did the TLX did better than expected?
I agree
Why is aspec considered the sporty one? It's an appearance package they would be better off going with just the technology package tlx
The Accord strikes again!! 🤣🤣 I'm waiting on a worthy Acura replacement for my 2020 Accord 2.0t
Sam, these descriptive titles are starting to become too long 😂
K20 with a turbo spells F A S T. Nice race Sam you channel is so much fun to watch.
None have k20.
My Turbo Verloster vs those 🚗