Absolutely.Meanwhile,Mace had no issue decapitating Jango Fett or Obi wan bisecting Darth Maul,but suddenly,when the Jedi meet plot critical people their brain functions stop and they suddenly spare people left and right.
Jared 42 When Dooku slaughtered the Nighsisters she pretty much turned a new leaf as a bounty hunter and that was what signified her leaving the Dark Side. During this time Darth Maul was about to kill Obi Wan and she saved his life because she was searching for Savage Opress.
pablo popo I know, but what I'm trying to say is that she pretty much got kicked out of the dark side when Dooku left her to die and when Sidious ordered him to kill her, which is why she became a bounty hunter, to find a source of income since hers was cut off when she was betrayed.
Jared 42 She didnt become a Bounty Hunter after quite some time after Dooku tried to assasinate her. Before this she was still in the dark side having sought out an apprentice in Savage and vengence upon Dooku. You cant just kick someone out of a side of the force. Its a practice and an ideology. Ventress continued to follow it after Dooku tried to assasinate her. After her failed plot against him and after Dooku slaughtered the nightsisters she pursued a Bounty hunter carrier and turned a new leaf. There was a time in between Dooku expelling her and her becoming a Bounty Hunter in which she was still a dark sider.
it wasnt like that at all. i can only tell you to read the book dark disciple. it will explain why he was sent a second time to assassinate doku. if you would like me to tell you though, just tell me and i will.
THANK YOU NO SERIOUSLY THANK YOU! I about lost it after that moment. was like THE HELL Yoda seriously....no wonder you lost the clone wars...and that stupid "fight" with palpatine.
Basically they felt that there was still dark in vos. The only way to be shure that vos wasnt a sith, was to ent him to execute dooku and see if he executes him or not. Obi-wan, anakin, 2 other jedi and a few of the best clones of cody(himself included) got order to follow him and either certify that vos was a jedi or kill him.
After watching The Clone Wars in completion, I have come to the conclusion that, as old and wise as Yoda was, he was also a senile old man, and the entirety of the Jedi Council were idiots to leave ALL decisions to him. It just proves that The Clones Wars never should've become canon.
I don't know if you guys know but this entire story was originally going to be like a huge 8-part story arc on Clone Wars before it was cut short when it was cancelled. I would have loved to see this.
Mpiewizard clone wars is back now looks like the little petitions worked on Disney. Thought it is only going to be 12 episodes but I would imagine they are still teasing . I think they’re going to finish it completely then release he new Star Wars Resistance show.
I think he hates himself for what happened to Anakin. He was Anakins master and that fall was on him. But no, Obi Wan is the embodiment of a perfect Jedi. I don't think he hated Maul, but knew the necessity of needing maul defeated.
Must mean the series, cuz this technically is still during the clone wars, it was actually supposed to be done for the series, but they cancelled it before having a chance to do these episodes.
yeah it seems like they really did her character dirty there, basically just turning her into Vos's love interest before getting fridged. that sucks >:(
Answer Is 7 George Lucas said he was going to make a new trilogy about these sentient God beings that are the force and show a little bit age Luke uncovering the truth of these god-like beings...
Ventress is one of the best characters in Star Wars and I wish she could of have had a happier ending, but at least she was given the path of forgiveness.
I agree with you 100%, I would love to see more of Ventress in books, movies, comics, cartoons etc. Like with Ahsoka, Ventress' growth during the series was one of greatest stories in all of SW cannon and non cannon.
appearantly there are some rumors that there might be a stand alone Ahsoka series, like Kenobi and The Mandolorian. I hope there are some fladhbacks with Asajj Ventress in it.
@@magnum69420 no she was dooku's secret aprentice sidious know her as a assasin but dooku were always planning to overthrow sidious thats why he didnt stop having assasins after ventress
@@asianhunsanimations3324 she is dooku's assassin, not a sith. dooku/darth tyranus hopes to use her to beat palpatine/sidious. Only then count dooku make ventress his true apprentice. however, she is no secret as sidious realizes that dooku is training her in a future attempt to kill him. darth sidious orders dooku to kill her, but she survives.
DemonicGoat As a veteran of the Army, I know that better than most. But for some reason her having hair frames her face well and makes her more attractive. IDK.
Amy Personal taste maybe :P . You have a pic profile of Gardenvoir, consider by many as the most femenine and atracttive pokemon ever...wich I also like.
I kinda hope it happens. I liked ventress and her departure was to abrupt. Most fans have no idea what happens to her after clone wars but she was obviously such a big part. I hope they bring her story to life
Obi Wan: Soooo.....you have hair now? Ventress: we don't meet for so long and that's the first thing you say to me? Obi Wan: You have to admit its pretty funny... Ventress: You haven't changed at all... i still don't like you.
Keo Jin D': I think after everything that happened she deserved some happiness. (We already have examples of non happy endings.) Whole planets getting blown up, Dark Vader in general, Darth Maul (he had to kill his brother), but yeah you're right actually this kind of end is fitting because she was somewhat calculating yet in the end she put her emotions first (didn't want her man to die).
@@drandescancelled2825 actually It is a race, they are a red skinned species that lives on korriban (home planet of the sith species) but ventress isnt one of them.
I agree, I really wanted her ark to mirror that of Ahsoka's, so that Asajj eventually finds her own "grey" way and redemption. I don't think it's necessary to give her a love interest. I think she could have transformed into some kind of vigilante and found meaning in helping others on a remote planet or maybe trying to restore Dathomir somehow.
Jose Perez I am pissed though because the book itself and other novels and comic books were supposed to be episodes of the series that couldn't be finished.
you should see her struggles in the clone wars series, when dooku is told by sidious to kill her, she's betrayed and goes through some rough times, but you also get to see her at times change for the better
Thanks so much for the constant pics to illustrate names and faces. As a casual viewer who is only familiar with the core 7 films, it helps me navigate the murky depths of all the supplemental material that has been written/retconned/re-written. One of the questions I have though is how the so-called "Rule of Two" is treated. If Sidious and Dooku are the two, then why would Dooku train a sith from Vos? Are apprentices allowed to have their own sub-apprentice or something? At least Ventress had a happy ending in the fact that she was redeemed and could die peacefully and not full of hatred and despair.
Thanks, and during the rule of two era, the two Sith would usually train dark side adepts or assassins who could use the force (like Asajj Ventress) in order to take care of the more tedious work. They weren't taught the Sith secrets or abilities, but were trained well enough to be able to combat Jedi. They also served the purpose to replace the Sith apprentice in case he or she got killed.
Phoenix7786 It's not exactly a set-in-stone rule, they can break it all the time. The Emperor had tons of sith assassins that he trained, such as Mara Jade. Vader had an apprentice of his own for a while whom he used to track down and kill any remaining Jedi or enemies of the Emperor. And it's not like all of these apprentices were trained behind Palpatine's back either. Dooku presented Grievous and Ventress to Sidious as well, and he approved of them. The Rule of Two really comes into play when we talk about power/order in the sith society. The Jedi "ruling" class is the Jedi Council; the Sith ruling class is the two. That's why even though there can be more dark-side force users, there can only be two sith with the title of "Darth"
Phoenix7786 the rule of two specifically is for with Sith Lord rank I believe, a sith can have many students, but only one of them, if the master even chose, would become Sith lord with him or her.
Sith Assassins are different then true Sith apprentices and Lords. They don't get the full training of the Sith and don't learn all their secrets, they're only taught enough to be able to be used as a powerful weapon against their enemies, but they often will be killed if they become too powerful because then they'll be considered rivals.
In the expanded universe I believe Vos survives order 66 and lives retired with a woman he loves and even has a child with and it's believed it may be ventress
Diana Lopez - I couldn’t agree more! I thought for a while that Rey was somehow a child of Obiwan & Ventress. Guess I blew that one. Ventress really got a raw deal. She was crushed when Dooku turned against her, and he was the last apprentice Sideous taught lightning too!
Tessa Jalloh It's canon. Permanently. All of the books that came out (and continue to come out) after Disney bought Lucasfilm are canon, Dark Disciple included. I felt like it was a great ending for a beloved and complex character.
Asajj and Ahsoka are the best recent personage in star wars for my taste. They are both inteligent very capable females. And I like this thin line between love and hate, agony and clarity. Not too far to the utopian white shining knight side nor to the unredeemable parent's worst nightmare. Just like real life.
I agree 100%!! Well said... although I would adjust the comment to, "they are both... very capable [PEOPLE]." There is no reason to bring gender into the discussion UNLESS YOU THINK WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN...???
@@clamroll200 He said female because men are typically written better then a lot of female characters, "typically." Asajj and Ahsoka are great cases in how a female character should be written.
its sad that she died, but in a way i can be happy with the hope in her last moments she was able to return to the light side and reunite with her master in the force
@@andrewkim3965 well that can't put every character into one un contextualized scene. Also this would be weird for people hearing a voice usually associated w/ a sinister character/bad guy as not many know how the dark disciple exonerates ventress. It just pisses me off that they couldn't fit her in any of the movies. (they planned for episode 2 but that already had too many storylines +jango fett)
Anthony Spitery I know I'm late as hell but on replying to this but this was originally gonna be a 8-episode story arc in The Clone Wars TV series before it was canceled.
People:It was great that Obi Wan, despite there differences went to Ventress’ funeral Me, who read the book:He only went to make sure Vos didn’t do anything crazy, but when the spirits came, he respected her more.
goblinwrecks I felt she loved Count Dooku, till he tried to kill her. The Count already killed his last apprentice and gave Assaji her lightsaber, foreshadowing ooo. :)
goblinwrecks I guess we all have our own interpretation of Ventress. She has a pretty fleshed out backstory and from all the anguish she went through from losing her master as a Jedi to having the population of her home world annihilated I suppose that the only comfort she sought out was Dooku before he tried to assassinate her. I think that even after that happened, even though Ventress despised Dooku she still had some sort of respect for him due to him being her former master.
I wished that arc could be put in the Season 7 of Clone Wars. Too bad they wasted 4 episodes on Ahsoka meeting two humans PS: I love Clone Wars Season 7 and i think its the best thing of Star Wars to come out in years. But i think it could indeed have some improvement
"No room for badass women in Star wars episodes or Movies." *clears throat* do you even try? there are like millions of badass women in star wars cannon and even more in legends like seriously
Ahsoka Tano, female lead of the Clone Wars series. Rey, lead of the Sequels Jyn Erso, lead of Rogue One Leia, Mara Jade, Maz, Hera Syndulla, Shaak Ti, Sabine, Aurra Sing, Phasma, and the list goes on
+CyberLeaf well, would you want new movies or not, cause if they kept the old with the new, it would be weird seeing 60 year old Han and leia with teenage children
Killing off Ventress was stupid. they could of explored her character so much more. I wish when Ahsoka quit the Jedi Temple, she went off to join Ventress. Seeing a han and chewie friendship with ahsoka and ventress would have been awesome.
sad, but I knew ventress wasn't all bad. There was an episode in the clone wars someone asked her if she would go back to being an agent for Dooku, or something like thst, and she replied along the lines of "no, that's not who I am, not anymore". if not mistaken, she even saved a life of someone she was tasked with capturing and turning in.
@@wowza3629 Sorry but I wasn't talking to you, now was I? And I just said shut up because it's so lame that people keep saying that. Wouldn't you be tired of people saying that over and over?
I love how the Jedi Council casually ignored the the dozens of Jedi and scores of clone-troopers that Ventress killed and gave her a quick-and-easy pardon.
That's how wars work, you kill a shit load of them, they kill a shit load of you, and at the end of it all you're supposed to walk awsy understanding that you were both only doing your duty to your country. It's why we didn't try members of the Wehrmacht for the crimes comitted by the Nazi Party, SS Tottenkampfverbande, and Einsatzgruppen.
Comments are like 75% about her hair or appearence beforehand. But this is such a great story, and its incredibly sad and I was really hoping for her to get a happy ending.
Ventress is my most favourite villain, I had no idea that she dead by Count Dooku hands, it's great that Obi-Wan and Voss attached her funeral and it was done in the Dathomir's traditional way #ripventress
It`s in a book/comic so that`s third level canon/Legends, so it could change if the writers of Rebels decide to bring her into the TV series at some point. Which would then make it secondary canon.
I started this video and went on to read Dark Disciple thanks to your great work! One thing I thought you failed to mention was that Vos, was still in the Dark side secretly after they rescue him. He was even sabotaging Jedi missions they worked on. The point I thought that should have been mentioned was that Obiwan, felt that Ventress was the one that saved him and brought him back in the battle that killed her. It’s only after this Vos goes back and confesses all him crimes to the Jedi Order. This pays compliment or even parallels the Luke and Vader ending so it was a surprise to me that it wasn’t mentioned. Thanks so much for your work it’s a pleasure going through your content keep it up!
The fact that Obi-Wan went to Ventress's funeral... well... says a lot about his character. It also proves that even when you 're enemies with someone that doesn't mean you have to dislike each other.
Ventress is now even more my favorite character and force user. I love how she didn't walk the line of good or evil. She was true force user of both light and dark, using the force for herself and for the benefit of others. Her redemption of her crimes and devotion to Vas, shows some really amazing character development. Thanks for this video. Characters like Ventress shows how Star Wars really misses the opportunity to show not everything is black and white. It also shows how wise and accepting Obi wan really was when it came to loyalty and benevolence. The Jedi order needed more like him.
08:11 what the fuck!!!??? spare dooku???? yeah i just saw my lover getting killed and when i defeat the guy that killed her i am gonna spare him... so ventress died for nothing....
"Hey we know you just got back and that sending you to assassinate Dooku turned you to the Dark Side, but we'd appreciate it if you went back to try and kill him again"
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"Voss was about to kill Dooku but then the plot dictated that he couldn't as he was still alive in the movies"
One of the shittiest parts about having to adapt to the movies afterwards, but at least most of the writers find interesting ways to do so.
@@ZeFluffyKnight interesting? His only excuse was a clarity of thought!
Absolutely.Meanwhile,Mace had no issue decapitating Jango Fett or Obi wan bisecting Darth Maul,but suddenly,when the Jedi meet plot critical people their brain functions stop and they suddenly spare people left and right.
@@cyclopsdias precisely 😂 the more I learn about star wars the more I hate the jedi and what lucas idealized 😂 Guess I'm gonna join the dark side!
"Snake! You can't do that!"
"The future will be changed"
"You created a time paradox!"
I'm beginning to see a trend in star wars lore. Obi-wan is a major alcoholic. Every story has a "met obiwan in a bar" line.
" Where are you going master?"
*smarmy grin "To get a drink."
When your master is Qui Gon Gin and Tonic, it's no surprise.
You saw how casual and relaxed he was when he told the bar fly to stop selling death sticks and rethink his life.
@skyefox that was good Holy heck I fell out of my chair lol
It suits him I think. Maybe thats where he gets his roasts from
Admiral Enigma is the stupidest name I've heard in a long time.
mosewell be admiral ligima
How about _Captain Scro'tash?_
The inner machinations of my mind are an enigma
Stupid it is. Not Dooku's specialty code names were.
ikr
I know Obiwan didn't have any feelings for Ventress but I still think it's really nice that he went to her funeral even though they were enemies.
Jared 42 Ventress saved Obi Wan's life when she left the dark side of the force. They where no longer enemies.
pablo popo She didnt exactly leave the dark side, Dooku pretty much kicked her out.
Jared 42 When Dooku slaughtered the Nighsisters she pretty much turned a new leaf as a bounty hunter and that was what signified her leaving the Dark Side. During this time Darth Maul was about to kill Obi Wan and she saved his life because she was searching for Savage Opress.
pablo popo I know, but what I'm trying to say is that she pretty much got kicked out of the dark side when Dooku left her to die and when Sidious ordered him to kill her, which is why she became a bounty hunter, to find a source of income since hers was cut off when she was betrayed.
Jared 42 She didnt become a Bounty Hunter after quite some time after Dooku tried to assasinate her. Before this she was still in the dark side having sought out an apprentice in Savage and vengence upon Dooku. You cant just kick someone out of a side of the force. Its a practice and an ideology. Ventress continued to follow it after Dooku tried to assasinate her. After her failed plot against him and after Dooku slaughtered the nightsisters she pursued a Bounty hunter carrier and turned a new leaf. There was a time in between Dooku expelling her and her becoming a Bounty Hunter in which she was still a dark sider.
Yoda logic
You nearly turned to the dark side while trying to assassinate Dooku
Try assassinating him again
it wasnt like that at all. i can only tell you to read the book dark disciple. it will explain why he was sent a second time to assassinate doku. if you would like me to tell you though, just tell me and i will.
THANK YOU NO SERIOUSLY THANK YOU! I about lost it after that moment. was like THE HELL Yoda seriously....no wonder you lost the clone wars...and that stupid "fight" with palpatine.
Basically they felt that there was still dark in vos. The only way to be shure that vos wasnt a sith, was to ent him to execute dooku and see if he executes him or not. Obi-wan, anakin, 2 other jedi and a few of the best clones of cody(himself included) got order to follow him and either certify that vos was a jedi or kill him.
Lolz and what happened to "There is no try,do or do not" ?!?
After watching The Clone Wars in completion, I have come to the conclusion that, as old and wise as Yoda was, he was also a senile old man, and the entirety of the Jedi Council were idiots to leave ALL decisions to him. It just proves that The Clones Wars never should've become canon.
I don't know if you guys know but this entire story was originally going to be like a huge 8-part story arc on Clone Wars before it was cut short when it was cancelled. I would have loved to see this.
Mpiewizard clone wars is back now looks like the little petitions worked on Disney. Thought it is only going to be 12 episodes but I would imagine they are still teasing . I think they’re going to finish it completely then release he new Star Wars Resistance show.
I believe they said feb 17th season 7 will open.
Samuel De La Rosa I bet they are going only release like 12 episodes of the unfinished season just to see how it does then they will release more
Season 7 on the way!!!
Why in heck's name was it cancelled?
Council: Jedi master Vos was almost lost in his pursuit of count dooku.
Yoda: Do it again.
Council: Bu-
Yoda: Again. Do it.
Dew it.
varun009 reminds me of ozpin from dumb rwby
varun009 don't let your dreams be dreams, yesterday you say tomorrow so just do it
Kill him Anakin. dew it
Orin Jenkins Dyew et Anakin
I love how chill Obi-Wan is with everyone, I doubt he ever had a particular hatred towards anyone
Not everyone... He must really have some beef with Maul after he killed his Master and lover and tortured him on Mandalore
I think he hates himself for what happened to Anakin. He was Anakins master and that fall was on him.
But no, Obi Wan is the embodiment of a perfect Jedi. I don't think he hated Maul, but knew the necessity of needing maul defeated.
He possibly hated Maul right after Naboo, but since he was dead he may have gotten over it.
+AntonioBarbarian isn't he alive with spider legs
888nivek The Jedi didn't knew that.
Asajj Ventress = Dopest Conflicted Female Character in Star Wars Universe History(love her look)
"What Happened to Asajj Ventress after The Clone Wars?"
There was no "after the clone wars" for her.
The Raven he means like the clone wars series i think
Must mean the series, cuz this technically is still during the clone wars, it was actually supposed to be done for the series, but they cancelled it before having a chance to do these episodes.
Its a metaphor, numb nuts
CR
That’s... no?
CR do you know what a metaphor is...?
Kind of sad, since Ventress was easily one of the most interesting characters of the expanded universe.
yeah it seems like they really did her character dirty there, basically just turning her into Vos's love interest before getting fridged. that sucks >:(
none of this is in the eu it was declared Canon before the rat started making shit
James Goodman what rat my guy
We’ve got s mouse giving us Star Wars if it wasn’t for him we’d have nothing now SW would be rotting in the corner
Answer Is 7 George Lucas said he was going to make a new trilogy about these sentient God beings that are the force and show a little bit age Luke uncovering the truth of these god-like beings...
Paul Darlington I know... it sounds stupid as fuck
"Admiral Enigma"
Sounds like the name of a rejected G.I. Joe villain
Damn you’re not even wrong
Or a certain Batman villain
Mason the Merc 115 “igma”
reminds me of admiral vagina
Admiral Buttocks
Ventress is one of the best characters in Star Wars and I wish she could of have had a happier ending, but at least she was given the path of forgiveness.
I agree with you 100%, I would love to see more of Ventress in books, movies, comics, cartoons etc. Like with Ahsoka, Ventress' growth during the series was one of greatest stories in all of SW cannon and non cannon.
I couldn't agree more
appearantly there are some rumors that there might be a stand alone Ahsoka series, like Kenobi and The Mandolorian. I hope there are some fladhbacks with Asajj Ventress in it.
@@mosando star wars republic has Ventress as one of the main villains and she gets to survive
Such a poor ending for Ventress. She really developed a lot after leaving Dooku, and having her die by his hand is truly sad.
she sacrificed for her lover. That really showed some growth in her personality.
Atleast dooku is now headless
Its so sad that she died that way she was one of my faves bc she was like a sith version of ahsoka😫
she is not a sith but ok
@@magnum69420 she was with the dark side though
@@martincanga6238 yeah but she is not a sith, more like dooku's assasin
@@magnum69420 no she was dooku's secret aprentice sidious know her as a assasin but dooku were always planning to overthrow sidious thats why he didnt stop having assasins after ventress
@@asianhunsanimations3324 she is dooku's assassin, not a sith. dooku/darth tyranus hopes to use her to beat palpatine/sidious. Only then count dooku make ventress his true apprentice. however, she is no secret as sidious realizes that dooku is training her in a future attempt to kill him. darth sidious orders dooku to kill her, but she survives.
My god this could have been so fucking awesome in the Star Wars The Clone Wars Series.....
imagine if we got to see Ventress with ACTUAL FUCKING FLOWING WHITE HAIR. somebody please tell me I'm not alone in wanting ventress.
Delta 1642 your disgusting
I just love the voice honestly. Its the same voice as Azula from Avatar. Jesus christ its so.....powerfull.
Rock lee bruh there's like 300 other people out there who would smash. And your opinion does not phase me.
I always adored her, too
Ventress with hair is like 300% more attractive than Ventress without hair.
I've never understood how that worked.
You better be bald or have very short hair in a figth. Your enemy can grab your hair and pull it with full strength. And that really hurts!
DemonicGoat As a veteran of the Army, I know that better than most. But for some reason her having hair frames her face well and makes her more attractive. IDK.
Amy Ever seen girls cat fight?
Tollinchi Family Ever been in one?
Amy Personal taste maybe :P . You have a pic profile of Gardenvoir, consider by many as the most femenine and atracttive pokemon ever...wich I also like.
"Ventress: a Star Wars story"
Still possible they could make a tv show about her and her bounty hunter day
OMG YES
I kinda hope it happens. I liked ventress and her departure was to abrupt. Most fans have no idea what happens to her after clone wars but she was obviously such a big part. I hope they bring her story to life
Obi Wan: Soooo.....you have hair now?
Ventress: we don't meet for so long and that's the first thing you say to me?
Obi Wan: You have to admit its pretty funny...
Ventress: You haven't changed at all... i still don't like you.
That probably happened ^^
How was that funny?
Continuation
Obi Wan: Fuck you
Ventress: Commits suicide
garbage
@@kieranb7747 rip u
"I work alone" -Mr. Incredible & Asajj Ventress
LOL
Also Kung Fury XD
batman.. even though he doesn't
"go home buddy, I work alone"
and Superman
"Level 1313." My heart broke all over again.
same imagine if it came out and being able to run into Ventress... things that could that been.. :(
kalta desmon hopefully merrin might be able to res Ventees if we get a fallen order sequel
What is 1313? I only about order 66!
1313 was a mature video game where you played a young Jango fett, a star wars bounty hunter game. Was cancelled when Disney bought Lucas arts.
@@goblin5006 yeah but then Ventress wouldn't be...Ventress. She'd be a creepy zombie night sister thing and we'd probably have to kill her.
this is a sad story. Ventress never had a chance to be happy. But that's life. not everyone get a happy ending.
Keo Jin D': I think after everything that happened she deserved some happiness.
(We already have examples of non happy endings.)
Whole planets getting blown up, Dark Vader in general, Darth Maul (he had to kill his brother), but yeah you're right actually this kind of end is fitting because she was somewhat calculating yet in the end she put her emotions first (didn't want her man to die).
It's her fault tho.
Hell... not everyone even gets to experience true happiness in their lifetime when it comes to Ventress’s case...
Another happy landing
Izzy Lebasi it's Darth Vader not Dark
Well damn. That story was better then twilight lmao
lmao
+Dexter Grif hahahha
That's not very difficult.
+Dexter Grif true!
LOL that made my day!
Obi Wan and Ventress really did respect each other. The closest the Jedi and Sith have ever came to being...friends?
Chris Roy Ventress wasn’t really a Sith, but more of rouge force user.
@@commonsense9306 non of are sith u do know that a race right 😂
@@JohnSmith-ds8ly speak English please
@@JohnSmith-ds8ly sith isn't a race
@@drandescancelled2825 actually It is a race, they are a red skinned species that lives on korriban (home planet of the sith species) but ventress isnt one of them.
Ah man what a tragic story arc for probably my 3rd favorite character from Star Wars
Whats your top 3 then?
I agree, I really wanted her ark to mirror that of Ahsoka's, so that Asajj eventually finds her own "grey" way and redemption. I don't think it's necessary to give her a love interest. I think she could have transformed into some kind of vigilante and found meaning in helping others on a remote planet or maybe trying to restore Dathomir somehow.
@@shawnmand5607 that actually sounds more interesting than what actually happened
THIS is the content I subscribed for.
so true
stop being a bitch ass and actually read the book. low information star wars fans like you who rely on 8 minute videos suck.
+Fry Liver well I have other things to worry about in my life
+Fry Liver it was actually 8:52
+Fry Liver and still youre watching those Videos too :)
Such a damn shame we’re only getting 12 episodes, wish we could see this and Son of Dathomir
When it mentioned 1313 I got sad. It's a shame that game was cancelled. It looked awesome.
theyre bringing clone wars back. season 7 is in the works
Is that a joke?
Well a while back there was "news" saying it may not be dead so i'm still hoping
better not be lying
MrFishy They are making another game based off it or something "similar" but its not 1313.
damn when i saw ventress the first i thaught "what a b*tch" but after this video i feel kinda sad for her :/
Same bro, at least she died a hero
olli.stirlingite imagine when I read the book I really felt sorry for her
Jose Perez I am pissed though because the book itself and other novels and comic books were supposed to be episodes of the series that couldn't be finished.
olli.stirlingite me 2
you should see her struggles in the clone wars series, when dooku is told by sidious to kill her, she's betrayed and goes through some rough times, but you also get to see her at times change for the better
Hair or not, Asajj will always be gorgeous.
Thanks so much for the constant pics to illustrate names and faces. As a casual viewer who is only familiar with the core 7 films, it helps me navigate the murky depths of all the supplemental material that has been written/retconned/re-written.
One of the questions I have though is how the so-called "Rule of Two" is treated. If Sidious and Dooku are the two, then why would Dooku train a sith from Vos? Are apprentices allowed to have their own sub-apprentice or something?
At least Ventress had a happy ending in the fact that she was redeemed and could die peacefully and not full of hatred and despair.
Thanks, and during the rule of two era, the two Sith would usually train dark side adepts or assassins who could use the force (like Asajj Ventress) in order to take care of the more tedious work. They weren't taught the Sith secrets or abilities, but were trained well enough to be able to combat Jedi. They also served the purpose to replace the Sith apprentice in case he or she got killed.
Ahh I see. Thank you.
Phoenix7786 It's not exactly a set-in-stone rule, they can break it all the time. The Emperor had tons of sith assassins that he trained, such as Mara Jade. Vader had an apprentice of his own for a while whom he used to track down and kill any remaining Jedi or enemies of the Emperor. And it's not like all of these apprentices were trained behind Palpatine's back either. Dooku presented Grievous and Ventress to Sidious as well, and he approved of them. The Rule of Two really comes into play when we talk about power/order in the sith society. The Jedi "ruling" class is the Jedi Council; the Sith ruling class is the two. That's why even though there can be more dark-side force users, there can only be two sith with the title of "Darth"
Phoenix7786 the rule of two specifically is for with Sith Lord rank I believe, a sith can have many students, but only one of them, if the master even chose, would become Sith lord with him or her.
Sith Assassins are different then true Sith apprentices and Lords. They don't get the full training of the Sith and don't learn all their secrets, they're only taught enough to be able to be used as a powerful weapon against their enemies, but they often will be killed if they become too powerful because then they'll be considered rivals.
she grew some hair?, damn she looks so much better
+Jordan Lovett Ikr
+Jordan Lovett im sure the carpet matched the drapes unless she like it bare
Yeah, she kind of looked like Rosie Robinson
She looks like somekne from the fucking Final Fantasy series....
No kidding
Ventress is even more beautiful with hair
A Kommentár Xiszó No Hair: Ugly
With Hair: Sexy
@@dugoo3405 good either way
Yess
She got a Karen haircut
Gonk Gonk I mean who wouldn’t try to clap sum Karen cheeks, 20 years younger and named Ventress
noo!!! why did she have to die?!? she deserved happiness after All she went through!
Diana Lopez I couldn't agree more.
In the expanded universe I believe Vos survives order 66 and lives retired with a woman he loves and even has a child with and it's believed it may be ventress
If clone wars was an anime, she'd have a higher chance of surviving.
Not grimdark enough.
Diana Lopez - I couldn’t agree more! I thought for a while that Rey was somehow a child of Obiwan & Ventress. Guess I blew that one. Ventress really got a raw deal. She was crushed when Dooku turned against her, and he was the last apprentice Sideous taught lightning too!
"he now went by a new name admiral enigma" that sounds like a james bond villian
Nobody:
SWEU:
*_So anyway, I met obi wan in a bar-_*
So unfunny
@@siyacer Imagine having an unfunny username and then judging people on how funny they are.
@@AGwest1 Imagine thinking usernames are suppose to be comedy
I’m already Sans Undertale Imagine bothering to comment on a “bad joke” instead of just ignoring it.
@@AGwest1 imagine telling someone to do something that you should have done yourself
I hope you guys enjoy this video! It took such a long time to make :0
+Fact Free i loved it! you know how to make good videos
Is this cannon or Disney?
Rico Cintron im not sure but im quite sure it isnt dysney. maybe legends
+cinnamon bunny so old cannon
Very interesting thanks
the question is, will this remain canon or will Rebels overrule it to bring back a fan favourite?
Tessa Jalloh Doubt it since the events told were meant to be in TCW, and Rebels is integrating concepts from TCW that never came to full potential.
Tessa Jalloh It's canon. Permanently. All of the books that came out (and continue to come out) after Disney bought Lucasfilm are canon, Dark Disciple included. I felt like it was a great ending for a beloved and complex character.
Honestly it would be cool if they brought Vos into rebels and used his appearance there to tell this story.
and old washed up sith helping out .. would love to see that lol
Bobert91 eh. Rebels tends to ruin good lore.
Imagine if Ventress had survived, we could've probably seen her aid the Rebels or even surviving Jedi against the Empire
Still can. After watching Rise of Skywalker, I'd say any force user can come back from the dead if Disney thinks it would make money
Andrew Kim
Ventress coming back is still a pretty slim chance though...
@@verdugo5242 just my hopes... Ventress was (and is) my favorite character...
Just make it a dream sequence
Damn you Christopher lee
Is he still dead?
LOL
DerpyNerdy He's been looking forward to this.
ThatRandomDude xD
@@NotVeryRandomDude My powers have doubled since last time we met Count
Asajj and Ahsoka are the best recent personage in star wars for my taste. They are both inteligent very capable females. And I like this thin line between love and hate, agony and clarity. Not too far to the utopian white shining knight side nor to the unredeemable parent's worst nightmare. Just like real life.
I agree 100%!! Well said... although I would adjust the comment to, "they are both... very capable [PEOPLE]." There is no reason to bring gender into the discussion UNLESS YOU THINK WOMEN ARE INFERIOR TO MEN...???
@@clamroll200 get a fucking grip you soyboy fuckwit
@@clamroll200 He said female because men are typically written better then a lot of female characters, "typically." Asajj and Ahsoka are great cases in how a female character should be written.
@@clamroll200 I'm just gonna assume your joking.
Haha Haha. See? I'm laughing at your joke.
The is one of the best of the star wars novels!! Vos and ventress was a tragic love story♡
its sad that she died, but in a way i can be happy with the hope in her last moments she was able to return to the light side and reunite with her master in the force
Huh... If that worked out, I think we'd have heard asajj's voice in RoS
@@andrewkim3965 well that can't put every character into one un contextualized scene. Also this would be weird for people hearing a voice usually associated w/ a sinister character/bad guy as not many know how the dark disciple exonerates ventress. It just pisses me off that they couldn't fit her in any of the movies. (they planned for episode 2 but that already had too many storylines +jango fett)
This truly is a magnificent story. It deserves to be made into something more than just a book
Anthony Spitery I know I'm late as hell but on replying to this but this was originally gonna be a 8-episode story arc in The Clone Wars TV series before it was canceled.
She's suprisingly hot with hair
bro same thing i thought
jello face Surprisingly?
I thought she was good looking before. *double click* ;)
guys you know ciri of the witcher 3 ? Without this marks at her chin .... damn she is hot even with it
Ew what the fuck
SHE'S NOT REAL!!!!!!!
People:It was great that Obi Wan, despite there differences went to Ventress’ funeral
Me, who read the book:He only went to make sure Vos didn’t do anything crazy, but when the spirits came, he respected her more.
Loved Ventress, and now I'm sad :(
WHAT!? I guess we'll never see her in rebels... poor thing. 😢
She could be a force ghost... Let me have my hope. :'(
Kevin K. Lolno
Completely plausible.
Kevin K. with the night sisters magic it's highly likely
Exactly.
Dang, ventress started out cool from the real clone wars cartoons, and ended even cooler.
wow this was really sad hearing about ventress die and all the change that happened to vos
.......Thanks, Disney..
That's not the point lmao. This isn't canon anymore.
Mike Guy and?
In Legends she fucked off and was never heard from again so...
And this is based on scripts created before George Lucas sold the rights to Disney.
@lar ljd fuck 'em right in their mouse ears
@jarhrta: dammit why did i had to picture mickey getting ear fucked with a ahegao face going "huh hoo" after reading your comment??
I’m honestly sad that she died.
She didn't, this isn't canon
Doc James Burton why wouldn’t be? This was made by Disney
This was never said by disney or anyone else. This is just fan fiction
@@skeptisphere everyone can say what ever they want on their videos. You can do your own video with your own theory and say that disney said its canon
@@thehandleisuseless Dude this is literally from Dark Disciple, a novel that exists within Disney’s new canon. Just stop
Lol. Dark disciple was the only time when Ventress showed her love feelings. Kinda rare.
goblinwrecks I felt she loved Count Dooku, till he tried to kill her. The Count already killed his last apprentice and gave Assaji her lightsaber, foreshadowing ooo. :)
Tollinchi Family I don't think she had romantic feelings for Dooku.
goblinwrecks Not romantic feelings, but she probably viewed Dooku as a father or something.
MrsMermaid2000 I don't really think that but who knows.
goblinwrecks I guess we all have our own interpretation of Ventress. She has a pretty fleshed out backstory and from all the anguish she went through from losing her master as a Jedi to having the population of her home world annihilated I suppose that the only comfort she sought out was Dooku before he tried to assassinate her. I think that even after that happened, even though Ventress despised Dooku she still had some sort of respect for him due to him being her former master.
What I like about the expanded Universe is that not everything is black and white.
Well, this isn´t the EU this is part of the new canon.
New canon, old canon, it's all part of the expanded universe or EU. Just only the new stuff is canon. It's not a difficult concept to grasp.
I wished that arc could be put in the Season 7 of Clone Wars. Too bad they wasted 4 episodes on Ahsoka meeting two humans
PS: I love Clone Wars Season 7 and i think its the best thing of Star Wars to come out in years. But i think it could indeed have some improvement
Yeah the 1313 arc was a waste, we all know ahsoka will help anyone no matter her feelings with the Jedi order.
Yeah way to much time on lame ass ahsoka
@@JohnSmith-ds8ly lame ass, well your'e right, she WAS lame ass, but not now
@@trikantsethu3100 still lame and your come back game blow dude
Yeah those 2 gurls could have been worked out better tbh a ventress story would have been good
I always thought she hooked up with some biker chick and they live in a trailer behind the Denny's off route 112.
ill admire your gold lmao
jmgmarcus She did seem a tad lezzy. But man I though she was cool til Disney killed her.
No room for badass woman in Star wars episodes or Movies.
"No room for badass women in Star wars episodes or Movies."
*clears throat*
do you even try? there are like millions of badass women in star wars cannon and even more in legends like seriously
Ahsoka Tano, female lead of the Clone Wars series.
Rey, lead of the Sequels
Jyn Erso, lead of Rogue One
Leia, Mara Jade, Maz, Hera Syndulla, Shaak Ti, Sabine, Aurra Sing, Phasma, and the list goes on
Raven Black you're an idiot
..And here goes my another favorite character...
WOW. Complex and brilliant. Like Asajj Ventress even more after this.
Sad :(
Yeah
Well, at least she did something good before she died😔😔😔
+Jason Tang i only found it sad because he was my favorite jedi :(
+Zachary Reynolds shut the fuck up bitch
Malik Mills aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Well thats disappointing, I guess Ventress won't be in rebels anytime soon
I want her in one of the new Star Wars films
yeah fuck Kylo give me Ventress
Asaj ventress is snokes mother
Dylan Cockburn no... snoke is not a girl, there nightsisters u moron there species can't have male babies
Then how did Maul get born?
1:39 It would have been hilarious if you accidentally said “Hunt her booty.”
On the book Dark Disciple she catched him staring at her butt xD and she says:"Forget about that i do not mix business with pleasure"
Sad, Ventress was noble in the end.
Vos is stupid
He could have killed Dooku
well at least anakin eventually killed him
which was the first step of him turning evil
Dooku was way to powerful and knew Quinlan inside out. He never had a chance.
He spared him cause he sensed that Dooku wasn´t actually evil. Dooku joined the Sith to destroy them but Palpatine was one step further then him.
There's also the whole "Oh man we can't have Vos kill Dooku because Anakin kills Dooku."
Saul Karath: the jedi would never try assassination.
A couple centuries later.
Jedi: hold my bear.
Noooooo :,^(
i actually had high hopes to see her on star wars rebels
same
Did you not see the season finale of season 2? Her voice is at the end, when Ezra opens the Holocron in the temple.
+CyberLeaf this was made after the Eu reset, so it is canon
+CyberLeaf well, would you want new movies or not, cause if they kept the old with the new, it would be weird seeing 60 year old Han and leia with teenage children
+CyberLeaf okay so you want the eu to be canon? chewbacca got hit by a moon
So, once again, the Jedi Council screws up royally, costing lives and allegiances to suffer. No wonder Anakin turned...
on
the light
+Scot Conant Side......
FannyPackMan100 of his ass
I meant turned on 😉
Vos: "Hey uh, yeah Dooku lives and I fell to the dark side"
Yoda: "Its just a prank bro"
Killing off Ventress was stupid. they could of explored her character so much more. I wish when Ahsoka quit the Jedi Temple, she went off to join Ventress. Seeing a han and chewie friendship with ahsoka and ventress would have been awesome.
rocafella142 I agree to a point. But I think this was a beautiful end to her arc, and frankly I wouldn't change it.
sad, but I knew ventress wasn't all bad. There was an episode in the clone wars someone asked her if she would go back to being an agent for Dooku, or something like thst, and she replied along the lines of "no, that's not who I am, not anymore". if not mistaken, she even saved a life of someone she was tasked with capturing and turning in.
I think we need to see this in season 7
Ventress will always be my favorite dark Jedi.
nope maul is my favorite
tjaymax17 Pretty sure nobody asked you.
This would be such a nice STCW Episode...
It was going to be a clone wars episode but then the show was canceled before they made it
UA-cam User
Goddamnit.
This would be so awesome!
But anyways Rebels is cool too, but this Episode.... Fuck
+Mcarcel Yeah, unfortunately they cancelled the episodes. I actually used a few unfinished clips of the potential episodes in the video too.
Fact Free
Yeah i saw it, and to See Asajj with hairs would be awesome.
Fact Free
I saw these Episodes with Echo, but i didnt knew There are Clips with Asajj.
Where die you find these?
Still a better Lovestory than Twilight
Russian Troll lOL
Shut up. I'm so tired of seeing this everywhere I look.
@@princessscarlet2219 this is a 3 year old comment, learn to read before insulting someone.
@@wowza3629 Sorry but I wasn't talking to you, now was I? And I just said shut up because it's so lame that people keep saying that. Wouldn't you be tired of people saying that over and over?
@@wowza3629 Also I can read. My comment was two months ago and you commented on it, so why don't YOU learn to read before YOU insult someone?
I love how the Jedi Council casually ignored the the dozens of Jedi and scores of clone-troopers that Ventress killed and gave her a quick-and-easy pardon.
That's how wars work, you kill a shit load of them, they kill a shit load of you, and at the end of it all you're supposed to walk awsy understanding that you were both only doing your duty to your country. It's why we didn't try members of the Wehrmacht for the crimes comitted by the Nazi Party, SS Tottenkampfverbande, and Einsatzgruppen.
Ventress may have been a villain at the beginning... but it's still sad to hear she died...
Comments are like 75% about her hair or appearence beforehand.
But this is such a great story, and its incredibly sad and I was really hoping for her to get a happy ending.
Admiral Enigma? Man, Vos pulled the short straw when they were picking Sith names.
I thought there was some comic where, after being beaten by Anakin and Obi-Wan, Ventress got on a ship and went off and away from the Clone Wars.
That legends
YOU BETRAYED ME! Now let me join the guy whos been holding me prisoner and torturing me in fighting you! Ahah that will teach you!
Star Wars logic
Stockholm Syndrome
@@septon4087 Stockholm Syndrome can be a very very sexy thing in bdsm! God I'd love to see it if Duku and Voss were girls!.
@@therealb888 👀
7:07 Vos didn't actually join Dooku though
@@zohaibmehmood3027 He did, later on
This is all kinds of confusing. From the graphic novels, Tholme survived order 66, and Vos went on to live out his life with Khaleen.
FelisDestructicus Some of them aren't canon anymore. Google it.
FelisDestructicus Welcome to the new canon
Ventress is my most favourite villain, I had no idea that she dead by Count Dooku hands, it's great that Obi-Wan and Voss attached her funeral and it was done in the Dathomir's traditional way
#ripventress
This is a really interesting and insightful video. I thank you for making this as this answered many of my questions
Well that's depressing , not only did Dooku still live but Asajjj also died I was hoping to see her in Rebels oh well such a sad story
You know this isn't canon anymore right? We still might see her.
+Sultan Kazi Hopefully
It`s in a book/comic so that`s third level canon/Legends, so it could change if the writers of Rebels decide to bring her into the TV series at some point.
Which would then make it secondary canon.
I know, I cried a little
Damn, what a tragic story. I can't believe Vos turned to the dark side too, that's pretty crazy.
I started this video and went on to read Dark Disciple thanks to your great work! One thing I thought you failed to mention was that Vos, was still in the Dark side secretly after they rescue him. He was even sabotaging Jedi missions they worked on. The point I thought that should have been mentioned was that Obiwan, felt that Ventress was the one that saved him and brought him back in the battle that killed her. It’s only after this Vos goes back and confesses all him crimes to the Jedi Order. This pays compliment or even parallels the Luke and Vader ending so it was a surprise to me that it wasn’t mentioned. Thanks so much for your work it’s a pleasure going through your content keep it up!
This could have been such a great season 7.
february 2020
awesome vid ! thanks !
+Mark Morehouse Glad you enjoyed it!
The fact that Obi-Wan went to Ventress's funeral... well... says a lot about his character.
It also proves that even when you 're enemies with someone that doesn't mean you have to dislike each other.
Damn am I the only one attracted to her with or without hair?
Her coming back in The Bad Batch is fine but I personally would’ve LOVED if they resurrected this arc for Tales of the Jedi
Wait, didn't the Clone Wars end with order 66?
***** Oh, ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
So The Phantom Menace and the first half of Attack of the Clones don't exist anymore?
i think he's lying.
You wot?
They meant the series with the same name, pal
Why wasn't this in Clone Wars season 6? This would've made such a better story than what we got with 5's and Yoda.
ikr!
At the time, they didn't know it was gonna be cancelled.
you mean they meant to actually release this!? what the fuck man.
It was supposed to be but as Disney cannot legally continue the series the scripts were turned into a book.
Not just this, but several other arcs, including one that would have kept the Yuuzhan Vong canon after the disney buyout.
Obi-wan sure loves drinking a lot if they always find him in a bar
Kill Ventress let Mau live .....WTF ..WITH THEIR LOGIC ...
Jlassil Jlali What's the problem? Maul was a better character
Alex Greaney maul is a overhyped character*
Critz Xtremus Still a better character than Ventress
Alex Greaney that isnt hard
Critz Xtremus Exactly
JJ Abrams better make this a spinoff movie
ummm nope
MLG Donald Trump
ummmm
yee
Lol, not happening.
+iizrett Jar Jar Abrams needs to lay his hands off anything star wars related.
+BeardedDragon He did an amazing job on Ep7 so i dont see why he should.
Ventress is now even more my favorite character and force user. I love how she didn't walk the line of good or evil. She was true force user of both light and dark, using the force for herself and for the benefit of others. Her redemption of her crimes and devotion to Vas, shows some really amazing character development.
Thanks for this video. Characters like Ventress shows how Star Wars really misses the opportunity to show not everything is black and white. It also shows how wise and accepting Obi wan really was when it came to loyalty and benevolence. The Jedi order needed more like him.
08:11 what the fuck!!!??? spare dooku????
yeah i just saw my lover getting killed and when i defeat the guy that killed her i am gonna spare him...
so ventress died for nothing....
well at least anakin eventually killed him
+Jannette Hoff Yeah, but even he didin't have enough strenght to do it.
"Hey we know you just got back and that sending you to assassinate Dooku turned you to the Dark Side, but we'd appreciate it if you went back to try and kill him again"
Loved reading Dark Disciple. Ventress was an amazing SW character! Always wanted to here more on Quinlan Voss and his return to the Light Side......
This is movie material.
This would've been an epic couple episodes in the clone wars tv series.
+Ben Iskander Disney took over before it could be made