Trial of Skill: Luke holding his own against Vader Courage: Facing down Vader Flesh: losing his hand Spirit: successfully rejecting the Dark Side Insight: Seeing through the Emperor's trap for him and casting away his saber. Yoda was right, after the Battle of Endor, he was a true Jedi.
@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 The person who made this comment said after the battle of Endor he was a Jedi. But he didn’t have the best qualities of a Jedi in Episode IV (to even pass the Jedi trials at the time in Episode IV) because his training had only just begun.
Imagine a jedi using the force in agriculture to maintain a healthy crop, preventing pests, accelerating maturation and increasing numbers during the harvest. They would practically eradicate hunger and save more lives than lightsaber-wielding jedi. And i didn't even metioned the hedi healers.
I've always loved the concept of Jedi Shadows, so much room for mystery, intrigue and multi-plot story telling. They're one of the few types of Jedi the Sith legitimately didn't want to mess with.
Well shadows sought out darksiders and artifacts and were probably spefically trained to combat sith so yea if I was a sith I would be scared to face a shadow
We NEED a show about a Jedi padawan and knight going on adventures that aren’t Anakin or clone war related. Imagine a show about a Jedi knight a few hundred years before the war just going on missions on different planets stopping assassins and bounty hunters, training in the Jedi temple, battling aliens…
Ok, maybe there aren't shows like that, but my man there's like thousands of stories in comic, novel and video game format involving what you just said, spanning from the Old Republic to the pre-clone wars era. You should check out the Ayla Secura Dark Horse comics if you haven't
You know Jedi ranking is something I never really thought about in Star Wars. I always just thought there was just a couple positions like padawan, knight, or master
The skill trial did not require the padawan to master all lightsaber forms. That is something very few jedi ever accomplished. It was a series of situations that required the padawan to have a great understanding of the lightsaber, AND the force, to overcome. It wasn't a black belt test to see how many forms they could master lol.
Yep. Very few Jedi mastered more than 2 or 3 forms. They were all trained in the basics of all forms though. Jar'Kai, for example, would only be mastered by a Jedi who used either dual sabers or a double bladed lightsaber. Typically only the battlemaster would have mastered all forms.
@@jodyhannah5931 we can get the sense that at the time of the clone wars, the battle master had mastered all forms, and maybe a few jedi, probably counted on one hand, could've been said to have mastered 5-6 of the forms themselves. Obi-wan had probably mastered most, maybe not Makashi, or Ataru, Mace windu, kit fisto and maybe one or two others probably mastered 5 or so.
That's correct, error on my part. Meant to say they were required to learn the fundamental basics of the core lightsaber forms and mastering one or two. The result of writing this script on and off for 8 months and changing things throughout haha
Man, I really appreciate this creator, been following him since those top ten sith/Jedi videos and I really think he represents the Star Wars fan base well.
Jedi Ranks aren't "power levels". They are WISDOM levels. Jedi Knights can be stronger than some Jedi Masters. But that doesn't mean they are as wise. For example, Jedi Knight Anakin was stronger than many members of the Jedi Council such as Jedi Master Eeth Koth. But Anakin was hot headed and impatient. Padawan Ahsoka is stronger than Jedi Master Jocasta Nu who ran the Jedi Archives. But she was still just a child. I could name several other examples, but remember that Jedi Ranks are based on Wisdom. Not necessarily power.
We don’t necessarily know if Ashoka was more powerful than Jocasta at the time of ‘Holocron Heist’. We only see her fight a changeling pretending to be Master Jocasta.
This is *mostly* true, though it is still true to state that on average Jedi Masters are going to be more powerful than Knights and below. Anakin is an extreme outlier and no other Jedi Knight is comparable to the literal members of the High Council during the events of the Clone Wars as an example. Most Jedi don’t become masters, as you say wisdom is a prerequisite, however to Jedi wisdom and power go hand and hand. Knights were the most populous rank in the order and most of them are like the two nameless Jedi Savage Oppress kills before he even receives a lightsaber or force training in TCW.
My mate Adam from school wanted to become a Jedi apprentice through the YTS scheme in the early 90’s, but the school careers officer said that this wasn’t possible. He became a plumber in the end and by all accounts is doing very well.
Loved this video! I'd also like to add that across Jedi history, there have only been 4 Jedi to achieve the special title of Barsen'thor, or Warden of the Order.
@@nightfall3332 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but one of the old games, Jedi Academy I think, had an easter egg in the form of the tomb of the 4th Barsen'thor in history. So in between the SWTOR time and Jedi Academy, there seems to have been 1 more Jedi Barsen'thor
Never knew there was a "Jedi Police" type. I find that concept fascinating, Windu should have brought a couple of these lads with him instead of council members. Galaxy saved, story over.
Actually the whole Jedi order was supposed to be police as opposed to soldiers. They are tasked with being peacekeepers of the galaxy and traditionally were meant to be kept out of wars. When Jedi's decided to participate in wars it was always with great controversy ans usually half the order objected to it. They are supposedly task with just arresting people and maintaining the peace across the galaxy.
All the different Jedi roles are cool no doubt, but members of the High Council are all seriously a cut above in terms of combative power. Saesee Tin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto are all more powerful than the normal Jedi masters let alone knights of the order.
I’m sure a good few of them did. The Republic could use independent “lawmen” like that. On the other hand, starting a rival organization to the Bounty Hunter’s Guild would create a lot of problems.
@@Crusader-tg1wx Actually, I doubt the bounty hunter’s guild would have a problem with it. They worked with quite a few different groups and would probably invite them into the fold. The Jedi, however, probably would not be okay with the it. They’re infamous for hunting down other force sensitive organizations, pretty much only those that matched the Jedi ideology perfectly were left around, like the sages of the kel-dor and priests of the ithorians. It was very rare for an organization of force sensitives to escape the jedi’s ego and cowardice.
Many failed Jedi were recruited into the Antarian Rangers a paramilitary security force that was dedicated to helping the Jedi protect the galaxy. Officially the council never endorsed the organization, unofficially they were considered a branch of the Jedi service core and many Jedi were recruited from Ranger families.
I've always been curious. Has any padawan or youngling invented a lightsaber form? How did each form start? Who created them? A master would need to master a form, but who taught them and at what stage of a jedis "career" were those forms created?
Each of the seven lightsaber forms was developed at a different point in the Order's history. Form I was specifically adapted from sword techniques when they lightsaber was invented, and the rest followed from there. Instruction was handled by, well, lightsaber instructors, as mentioned in the video. Initiates learned the basics of Form I, while Padawans would choose the form they wanted to specialize in from there. There's not really a requirement to master a lightsaber form, though the Trial of Skill requires you to at least be fully proficient in one.
@@InSanic13 Ah okay, thanks! Are there any cohesive reading/comic material, legends or otherwise out there, or is it just piecemealed throughout legends and such? Also, do we know who, specifically, created each form? Does the dark side have their own forms? I know that they have different styles, but I'm not sure about any forms. Sorry for the questions but there is soo much out there with Star Wars I just don't know where to look haha
@@SilverFang95 As far as I'm aware, the only form we have a named creator for is the Vaapad variant of Form VII, which was created by Mace Windu. However, the Juyo variant of Form VII was created much earlier, and was predominately used by dark siders. Otherwise, the forms were used by both sides. As for material, _The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force_ has information on the forms, and is pretty cohesive for a single source. You might check out Jensaarai1's videos on lightsaber forms, where he talks a lot about the sum of information we have on each, some of the sources, and talks about his own interpretations of said information.
I'd imagine that to create a new lightsaber form a student would have to come up with unique ways to not only use attacks and defense combinations, but also figure out new ways to use the lightsaber. Much harder to do in the clone wars/imperial era vs post endor and Luke's new jedi order. How rey will take to lightsaber combat, as well as how shell teach it in her new jedi order idk
I know I would. Not at the exclusion of the Force but to further help me connect with it. I’ve always found a lot of spirituality in practice of the martial arts.
The force makes swordfighting really cool, you basically enter a trance where you move inhumanly fast and can predict all your opponents attacks. Masters of lightsaber combat look like blurs to the naked eye. Plus force abilities suck against force users unless you have a big power advantage
I believe in legends there were also different councils of the jedi besides the high council, like the agricultural council that led those sections of the order.
You missed one of my favorites, and easily the rarest. The ceremonial title Barsen'thor. Which Translates to "Warden of The Order". First given posthumously to a young Jedi Padawan who sacrificed himself to redeem his fallen brother. It would be later adopted by the order as a title given to Jedi who undergo great personal sacrifice to redeem the light in fallen Jedi. In known Jedi history this title was only bestowed to three honored Jedi.
@@krispybacon9927 not much is known about the second one. But the third Barsen'thor is unnamed because they’re your custom Jedi consular in the game SWTOR. They also have a tomb on chandrila in the Jedi academy game I believe.
@@NotPassive-356 Luke could, because he brought his father back to the light. Vader couldn't. The title is for redeeming someone at great cost to self.
I can see Leia as a Sentinel - she was a politician and could influence others. Since she lived during war time she also developed some Guardian skills with combat and military leadership roles.
10:2816:16 now there’s your next tv show right there. A Star Wars crime drama. That would be awesome. Although I’m not clear how they would be different. I get the sense some of these specializations overlapped somewhat.
I'd definitely be a Consular, healer type. I prefer the more force aspects of the jedi, and the ability to treat wounds and sicknesses would be incredible
I really appreciate the video. Had no idea there were so many classes, sub-classes and ranks. A very informative video. Might have to somehow incorporate this into one of our Role Playing Games someday.
DUDE SERIOUSLY!!!! Perfect video. Star Wars content that actually about SW and not whatever is going on now a days, and it is very informative and well researched. The video even has what song is being played in the background cuz most of the time you find a song in a video and can't seem to figure out the name or who made it. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!! subscribed for sure :) Btw I would totally be a guardian above all else, the archaeologist sounded pretty sweet as well. Kinda like Indiana Jones if he was a lightsaber wielding wizard .
Bruh, Rey Palpatine learned all these specializations within months of training. Meanwhile, Luke got old and grumpy and decided to forego his great inner strength and wisdom to murder his padawan.
It was so boring to see the original trilogy plot line again, I was hoping to see Luke as a powerful grandmaster with a new Jedi order. The hopeful end of the OT is ruined knowing that basically everything was lost just a few years later again
Amazing video! I love this channel because you do list videos like this. They are very interesting and teach us a lot about the various types of things in the star wars galaxy. Would like to see more :)
7:09 Master of the Order 7:34 Jedi Grand Master 8:12 Mastery 9:18 Jedi Guardian School 11:22 Jedi Counselor School 15:46 Jedi Sage 16:08 Jedi Sentinel School 18:47
What about the Jedi Assassin? They're Sentinels and are quite similar to the shadows and investigators. Their main objective is to use the force to hunt down sith. I may be wrong and Jedi Shadows are the same thing so if you could clear this up that would be great.
Consular for me. Would prefer to see things through and check on a lot of differing perspectives before either brokering a fair deal or two or striking down possible oppressors with the help of justified evidence and permission from some higher-ups and even the Force to do such a thing. (Yes, the latter is a Guardian concept, but that's also part of my mindset.) Bonus if I'm also an Ace.
You've fought nearly nonstop for 10 years, You've nearly run out of enemies to fight, then you see your nemesis and have him in your clutches. Then a wall of force proof bon fire stops you from taking vengeance on someone who has been a hobo for ten years...
There is another rank in legends Barsen'thor of the jedi order this rank was given to the most powerful jedi in terms of force ability or force affinity. This title translates to the the warden of the order.
I would want to either be an Historian, with the goal of codifying how the Tenets of the Order evolved throughout history, or as a Biologist so I could spearhead conservation efforts and improve relations between the main Order and the Service Corp. However, the way I envision using the Force is more in line with the Sentinels - even if none of their subcategories jive as well with me as the Historians or Biologists do.
10:39 !!! Finally an answer to why Ashoka has white light sabers, and no one else does!! Looks like Bariss Offee's rant about th Jedi not being peace keepers resonated with her after burying her old saber.
White sabers are made using a Sith crystal (red) that has been purified with the light side of the force. Because Ahsoka is not a Lucas character Disney likely changed this to fit into their vision of how things should have been.
If they ever have a show based on Young Yoda, they really need to dwell deep into the process of younglin train all the way to padwan. Be interesting to see many other characters in the training process. Like the first Harry Potter movie, but with Jedis
Some interesting ethical implications with some of these- would the Jedi who collaborate with police or governments accept injustice to maintain peace? If the options are slavery or war on a planet, what would they choose? And what are the ethical procedures of the Jedi who do generic experiments? Seems like messing with the force in such a way can have horrible and dangerous results.
Well the first question is answered, although I know 2 cases where the Jedi uphold the Republic injustice with the massacre of the True Mandalorian and subjugation of the Kaleesh. The Jedi are still good but they have become stagnated and follow the Republic even when they become corrupted. I think the problem is that the Republic and Jedi are too interconnected. I am not sure whether they are codependent
The thing is, a Jedi can only do so much. They’re just one person with maybe a padawan helping. If there’s some kind of grand scale injustice, they can’t just wave a hand or a lightsaber and magically fix everything. Consider Qui-gon on Tatooine. He can’t single handedly end slavery across the planet, at least not with the time he has, but he can help out where he can by freeing Anakin and trying to free his mother. As for the researchers, regular scientists have ethical guidelines as to what they’re allowed to do with experimentation methods, I don’t imagine the Jedi wouldn’t also.
18:00 Probably Jedi Sentinel, Watchmen. I think I could do well being on a single planet as a rep for the temple. Taking time to get to know the people there and forming good long term relationships with the locals.
If I had any inclination for a Jedi Class, somewhere within a Counselor and Artisan hybrid feels like a strong affinity for my life, I enjoy the concept of building from imagination and applying it for practical use.
I would be a jedi quartermaster since its the closest thing to being an engineer in the jedi order,maybe even create an engineer field aimed to design and create new technologies to simplify and possibly improve the life of the other jedi,and perhaps of the universe
The jedi academy is basically set up to be an awesome anime, special powers, an ambiguous and complicated beliefs system, a well meaning but ultimately flawed leadership structure, opportunity for a ton of unique and uncoventional character designs, a wise mentor to choose the main character for reasons other people don't see, hell there's even a tournament arc lol
I think they went WAY too deep with some of these specializations (Jedi Ace? LOL, alright…) BUT, the idea of a Jedi Sentinel sounds rad AF. Jedi detectives, bounty hunters, internal affairs agents, etc. You can’t dislike that idea. That warrants further spotlight (but not from Disney)
I mean . . . they kind of own Star Wars so ANYTHING in terms of Star Wars we get for the foreseeable future is "from Disney." Although I mean . . . the Mandalorian, Andor, Visions, Rebels it hasn't all been bad. I would love to see more of the Jedi Order though, especially their internal lives. They've always been my favorite part of the franchise.
Honestly, I would rather be part of the sentinel group and I would want to specialize as a Jedi shadow are the only group that for the most part did survive the Jedi purge in legends anyway. Also, they're taught a wide range they are the Jedi Order's special forces Group.
I find the combination of Artisan and Investigator to be most fitting for myself. Designing starships to the highest possible standards. Crafts of artisanal quality, unparalleled in their beauty and effectiveness. And being able to fly them to their best potential, of course. Yet in times of necessity seeking out criminals and dark side cults in order to protect citizens of the galaxy, as well as seeking missing persons. These two combine the Sentinel school‘s teachings best fitting for me. Being connected to citizens, working with them as equals, but not hesitated to protect them.
The only reason I think they failed is because they got balance confused as they wanted only light side instead of light and dark like in “dawn of the Jedi” comics
I’d choose something with a combination of wisdom and knowledge seeking as well as mastering force and saber combat. The goal would to of course become a powerful and wise warrior with much honor. But the far larger goal would be to understand the force and afterlife and one’s purpose in life and live accordingly
Great job with the video. I five questions for anyone. 1. Which one do you prefer: Sith or Jedi ? If you had to be A Sith who would be your master ? 2. What is your favorite era in the legends universe ? 3. What is your favorite movie and what would have happened if Galen Marek had completely join the dark side ? 4. Who do you prefer: Shaak Ti or Aayla Secura 5. And do you think should be the wife of my Star Wars creative character-Shaak ti or Aayla Secura ?
1. I prefer the Sith, and if I were a Sith I would prefer to have either Plagueis or Darth Bane (Dooku is an honorable mention). Plagueis because he would actually care about me or at least want to keep me around, as he believed the Rule of Two to be done. He would allow me to benefit from his midichlorian research, allowing us to become immortal overlords. He would also see me as an equal partner after a long enough apprenticeship. Bane, due to his principled outlook compared to most Sith, and his willingness to make me as good a Sith as I could be. If I were a Jedi, I would want either T'ra Saa, Luke Skywalker, or Kyle Katarn as my master. T'ra Saa due to her being a Clone Wars era Jedi that could be quite devout to the Jedi Code, but who could love and be quite motherly. She could see you as a person and be there for you. Luke, due to his fixing of all the previous Jedi issues and the likelihood that I would probably wind up as one of the most powerful Jedi of all time. And, Kyle Katarn due to his more balanced philosophy, and his skill as a teacher. 2. My favorite era is either the Fall of the Republic/Rise of the Empire Era (1,000 BBY-0 BBY) or the collective era of: the Rebellion era, the New Republic era, the New Jedi Order era, and the Legacy era (0 BBY-4 ABY, 5 ABY-25 ABY, 25 ABY-37 ABY, and 37 ABY-140 ABY). I particularly like the Legends Clone Wars era due to its consistency and the quality of its stories (minus TCW 2008 as it retcons way too much good stuff to fit). The Empire and Rebellions era for a similar reason, just less so. The New Republic and New Jedi Order eras are when the creative minds of the writers were at their peak, for good or ill. Plus, I like the NJO's members about as much on average as the Clone Wars lineup. And Legacy, because the Legacy of the Force novels were damn good, and the Legacy comics are horribly underrated. 3. My favorite film is "The Empire Strikes Back", as I would say it is objectively the best of the films in all areas. "Revenge of the Sith" is a close second, followed by "A New Hope" and "Return of the Jedi". As for Galen, things would be a better outcome for the Rebellion if Vader was dead, but would progress similarly. 4. I prefer Shaak Ti because she was a badass, but so was Aayla. I do find Aayla's story of losing and eventually reclaiming herself very touching, and very heartbreaking in its end. As the reason she gets lit up so bad in Order 66 is due to Commander Bly and his men caring about her so much that they didn't want her to suffer. They wanted her end to come swiftly and almost gently, as she did die on the first volley, and the rest was insurance. 5. Aayla already has Kit Fisto, a stint with her Master Quinlan Voss, and a fling with Commander Bly. As for Shaak Ti. She never struck me as one for romance, but she would be the only potential option. I say potential, because the likelihood still is not great.
It's the same as the old one here in this video with some differences, a couple of differences I know is that force-sensitive individuals can join at any age instead of being taken very young like in the old days, love is encouraged between Jedis instead of being shunned due to fear of falling to darkness, love is a powerful emotion after all and lastly, they remove themselves from political galactic affairs, the new Jedi order is their own sovereignty in the galaxy and while they work alongside the galactic republic like the old Jedi order did to some degree, they don't take orders from them, not even from their new chancellor, under the leadership of Jedi grandmaster luke skywalker, the new Jedi order takes peacekeeping taskforce very seriously.
I would be a Jedi Shadow (Sentinel) because Jedi Shadows were permitted to study and wield Dark Side Force Powers beyond what was normal for a Jedi Knight. Best way of surviving Order 66 if I was assigned to the Jedi Temple at that point, unless I encountered Anakin.
Well considering most were caught off guard and after 3 years of watching Jedi fight finding weaknesses like overwhelming them with large numbers its not too hard to believe
I would love to be a jedi sentinel because they focused on some lightsaber and force skill but combined them with practical skills which sounds amazing
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If you were a Jedi, what field of study would you specialize in and what accomplishments would you hope to achieve?
I feel like I would go for the weaponmaster.
I train in weaponry already in real life, so it isn't far from who I am, only new unique weaponry.
Weaponsmaster
Jedi guardian
Jedi Consular
Shadow
Trial of Skill: Luke holding his own against Vader
Courage: Facing down Vader
Flesh: losing his hand
Spirit: successfully rejecting the Dark Side
Insight: Seeing through the Emperor's trap for him and casting away his saber.
Yoda was right, after the Battle of Endor, he was a true Jedi.
i tho skill/insight was in ep 4 destroying death star
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so he learns all of these skills from Sith. 2 of them from the same one, Vader not even being that powerful.
@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 The person who made this comment said after the battle of Endor he was a Jedi. But he didn’t have the best qualities of a Jedi in Episode IV (to even pass the Jedi trials at the time in Episode IV) because his training had only just begun.
This is incredibly insightful
Imagine a jedi using the force in agriculture to maintain a healthy crop, preventing pests, accelerating maturation and increasing numbers during the harvest. They would practically eradicate hunger and save more lives than lightsaber-wielding jedi. And i didn't even metioned the hedi healers.
They would still be hunger if it's like our world, it's not that we don't produce enough food for everyone, the problem lies in mostly services
Shit id be growing that Skywalker pack with the force, everybody's getting life sticks if they around me
I would be mad at all times
@@ThirdEye-47 that jedi reefer
I'd be that Jedi tbh
I've always loved the concept of Jedi Shadows, so much room for mystery, intrigue and multi-plot story telling. They're one of the few types of Jedi the Sith legitimately didn't want to mess with.
Well shadows sought out darksiders and artifacts and were probably spefically trained to combat sith so yea if I was a sith I would be scared to face a shadow
Tbf sith are goated
Shadows had their Sith counterparts in the Sith Assassins.
How would Anakin fare as a Jedi Shadow though?
@@flipkiller8521 Anakin couldn’t go on missions alone because the council didn’t trust him. That’s why he is always with Obi wan
We NEED a show about a Jedi padawan and knight going on adventures that aren’t Anakin or clone war related. Imagine a show about a Jedi knight a few hundred years before the war just going on missions on different planets stopping assassins and bounty hunters, training in the Jedi temple, battling aliens…
Dooku: Jedi Lost and the High Republic stuff.
That might be the plot to Acolyte
Or just see the temple and everything about the jedi 20year before annakin
Yea its for sure time to get away from Anakin and the dkywalkers there's so much more to see
Ok, maybe there aren't shows like that, but my man there's like thousands of stories in comic, novel and video game format involving what you just said, spanning from the Old Republic to the pre-clone wars era. You should check out the Ayla Secura Dark Horse comics if you haven't
You know Jedi ranking is something I never really thought about in Star Wars. I always just thought there was just a couple positions like padawan, knight, or master
Same , id def be a jedi shadow
Guardian = Warriors
Counselor = Mages
Sentinels = Rogues
its like cryptic language for the most famous rpg class titles.
nerd 😝
@@AdmiralPureBlood ok "turkey bird is the word"
@@AdmiralPureBlood how do I know you don't look like this --> 🤓
Okay but where is the Druid?
The skill trial did not require the padawan to master all lightsaber forms. That is something very few jedi ever accomplished. It was a series of situations that required the padawan to have a great understanding of the lightsaber, AND the force, to overcome. It wasn't a black belt test to see how many forms they could master lol.
Yep. Very few Jedi mastered more than 2 or 3 forms. They were all trained in the basics of all forms though. Jar'Kai, for example, would only be mastered by a Jedi who used either dual sabers or a double bladed lightsaber. Typically only the battlemaster would have mastered all forms.
@@jodyhannah5931 we can get the sense that at the time of the clone wars, the battle master had mastered all forms, and maybe a few jedi, probably counted on one hand, could've been said to have mastered 5-6 of the forms themselves. Obi-wan had probably mastered most, maybe not Makashi, or Ataru, Mace windu, kit fisto and maybe one or two others probably mastered 5 or so.
That's correct, error on my part. Meant to say they were required to learn the fundamental basics of the core lightsaber forms and mastering one or two. The result of writing this script on and off for 8 months and changing things throughout haha
@@TheLoreMasterYT with a name like Lore Master, go ahead and make an annotation to correct your error please. This isnt a video from the Lore Padawan.
@@phoenix21studios fair yet sassy cratiq lol
Man, I really appreciate this creator, been following him since those top ten sith/Jedi videos and I really think he represents the Star Wars fan base well.
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@@-psilo-9071 I reported ur comment for child abuse
Jedi Ranks aren't "power levels". They are WISDOM levels.
Jedi Knights can be stronger than some Jedi Masters. But that doesn't mean they are as wise.
For example, Jedi Knight Anakin was stronger than many members of the Jedi Council such as Jedi Master Eeth Koth. But Anakin was hot headed and impatient.
Padawan Ahsoka is stronger than Jedi Master Jocasta Nu who ran the Jedi Archives. But she was still just a child.
I could name several other examples, but remember that Jedi Ranks are based on Wisdom. Not necessarily power.
We don’t necessarily know if Ashoka was more powerful than Jocasta at the time of ‘Holocron Heist’. We only see her fight a changeling pretending to be Master Jocasta.
This is *mostly* true, though it is still true to state that on average Jedi Masters are going to be more powerful than Knights and below. Anakin is an extreme outlier and no other Jedi Knight is comparable to the literal members of the High Council during the events of the Clone Wars as an example. Most Jedi don’t become masters, as you say wisdom is a prerequisite, however to Jedi wisdom and power go hand and hand. Knights were the most populous rank in the order and most of them are like the two nameless Jedi Savage Oppress kills before he even receives a lightsaber or force training in TCW.
My mate Adam from school wanted to become a Jedi apprentice through the YTS scheme in the early 90’s, but the school careers officer said that this wasn’t possible. He became a plumber in the end and by all accounts is doing very well.
Great Vid, very interesting!
Hello there! Didn't expect to see you hear.
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
Loved this video! I'd also like to add that across Jedi history, there have only been 4 Jedi to achieve the special title of Barsen'thor, or Warden of the Order.
Barsenthor is one you get in swtor.
Three* actually.
@@nightfall3332 Correct me if I'm wrong here, but one of the old games, Jedi Academy I think, had an easter egg in the form of the tomb of the 4th Barsen'thor in history. So in between the SWTOR time and Jedi Academy, there seems to have been 1 more Jedi Barsen'thor
He made you look like a right chump
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Never knew there was a "Jedi Police" type. I find that concept fascinating, Windu should have brought a couple of these lads with him instead of council members. Galaxy saved, story over.
Actually the whole Jedi order was supposed to be police as opposed to soldiers. They are tasked with being peacekeepers of the galaxy and traditionally were meant to be kept out of wars. When Jedi's decided to participate in wars it was always with great controversy ans usually half the order objected to it. They are supposedly task with just arresting people and maintaining the peace across the galaxy.
Well said
All the different Jedi roles are cool no doubt, but members of the High Council are all seriously a cut above in terms of combative power. Saesee Tin, Agen Kolar, and Kit Fisto are all more powerful than the normal Jedi masters let alone knights of the order.
Would be cool if Padawans that were dismissed from the temple or just natural force users start a Bounty Hunter lodge
I’m sure a good few of them did. The Republic could use independent “lawmen” like that. On the other hand, starting a rival organization to the Bounty Hunter’s Guild would create a lot of problems.
@@Crusader-tg1wx Actually, I doubt the bounty hunter’s guild would have a problem with it. They worked with quite a few different groups and would probably invite them into the fold. The Jedi, however, probably would not be okay with the it. They’re infamous for hunting down other force sensitive organizations, pretty much only those that matched the Jedi ideology perfectly were left around, like the sages of the kel-dor and priests of the ithorians. It was very rare for an organization of force sensitives to escape the jedi’s ego and cowardice.
Many failed Jedi were recruited into the Antarian Rangers a paramilitary security force that was dedicated to helping the Jedi protect the galaxy. Officially the council never endorsed the organization, unofficially they were considered a branch of the Jedi service core and many Jedi were recruited from Ranger families.
Aurra Sing was a former Jedi.
Pretty sure many Antarian Rangers were failed Jedi.
Imagine getting taken by the Jedi at birth without even knowing your birth parents just to get kicked out of the order a few years later 😂
Yeah... Sounds like a disaster in the making.
U never get forced to be kicked out XD
I've always been curious. Has any padawan or youngling invented a lightsaber form? How did each form start? Who created them? A master would need to master a form, but who taught them and at what stage of a jedis "career" were those forms created?
Each of the seven lightsaber forms was developed at a different point in the Order's history. Form I was specifically adapted from sword techniques when they lightsaber was invented, and the rest followed from there. Instruction was handled by, well, lightsaber instructors, as mentioned in the video. Initiates learned the basics of Form I, while Padawans would choose the form they wanted to specialize in from there. There's not really a requirement to master a lightsaber form, though the Trial of Skill requires you to at least be fully proficient in one.
@@InSanic13 Ah okay, thanks! Are there any cohesive reading/comic material, legends or otherwise out there, or is it just piecemealed throughout legends and such? Also, do we know who, specifically, created each form? Does the dark side have their own forms? I know that they have different styles, but I'm not sure about any forms. Sorry for the questions but there is soo much out there with Star Wars I just don't know where to look haha
@@SilverFang95 As far as I'm aware, the only form we have a named creator for is the Vaapad variant of Form VII, which was created by Mace Windu. However, the Juyo variant of Form VII was created much earlier, and was predominately used by dark siders. Otherwise, the forms were used by both sides. As for material, _The Jedi Path: A Manual for Students of the Force_ has information on the forms, and is pretty cohesive for a single source. You might check out Jensaarai1's videos on lightsaber forms, where he talks a lot about the sum of information we have on each, some of the sources, and talks about his own interpretations of said information.
Of course they did. The incorrect or their take on the form they should he learning...
-Some guy on UA-cam
I'd imagine that to create a new lightsaber form a student would have to come up with unique ways to not only use attacks and defense combinations, but also figure out new ways to use the lightsaber. Much harder to do in the clone wars/imperial era vs post endor and Luke's new jedi order. How rey will take to lightsaber combat, as well as how shell teach it in her new jedi order idk
Imagine having limitless force magic that can move tons and shoot lightning but you choose to be a swordfighter instead.
I know I would. Not at the exclusion of the Force but to further help me connect with it. I’ve always found a lot of spirituality in practice of the martial arts.
The force makes swordfighting really cool, you basically enter a trance where you move inhumanly fast and can predict all your opponents attacks. Masters of lightsaber combat look like blurs to the naked eye. Plus force abilities suck against force users unless you have a big power advantage
I love the art you use. It's a great window into the non-cinematic side of Star Wars
I had no idea the Jedi order had so many classes and subclasses!!!! Great great great great video!!!!!
I believe in legends there were also different councils of the jedi besides the high council, like the agricultural council that led those sections of the order.
You missed one of my favorites, and easily the rarest. The ceremonial title Barsen'thor. Which Translates to "Warden of The Order".
First given posthumously to a young Jedi Padawan who sacrificed himself to redeem his fallen brother. It would be later adopted by the order as a title given to Jedi who undergo great personal sacrifice to redeem the light in fallen Jedi. In known Jedi history this title was only bestowed to three honored Jedi.
Which three
@@krispybacon9927 not much is known about the second one. But the third Barsen'thor is unnamed because they’re your custom Jedi consular in the game SWTOR. They also have a tomb on chandrila in the Jedi academy game I believe.
@@kumanaz2765 that’s pretty cool
@@kumanaz2765 Couldn't luke or Vader be one?
@@NotPassive-356 Luke could, because he brought his father back to the light. Vader couldn't. The title is for redeeming someone at great cost to self.
I can see Leia as a Sentinel - she was a politician and could influence others. Since she lived during war time she also developed some Guardian skills with combat and military leadership roles.
She did have yellow lightsabers in force unleashed 2
@@breadg1818 That's awesome
A very nice overview. I like reading so I would probably become something like an archivist or librarian.
10:28 16:16 now there’s your next tv show right there. A Star Wars crime drama. That would be awesome.
Although I’m not clear how they would be different. I get the sense some of these specializations overlapped somewhat.
I'd definitely be a Consular, healer type. I prefer the more force aspects of the jedi, and the ability to treat wounds and sicknesses would be incredible
I always go medic in games. So, I'm right with you
@@kapps5 Oh, me too! I'm a Sage in ffxiv! Haha
Are you a doctor, nurse, paramedic etc then?
@@pmc8451 I work in a hospital pharmacy
Unless you’re Rey Palpatine, then you master all the specializations within 3 months of training.
Like these 'fundumental' explanation videos about the SW societies structure
damn y’all are back and smashing out the videos
poggers !!
I really appreciate the video. Had no idea there were so many classes, sub-classes and ranks. A very informative video. Might have to somehow incorporate this into one of our Role Playing Games someday.
DUDE SERIOUSLY!!!! Perfect video. Star Wars content that actually about SW and not whatever is going on now a days, and it is very informative and well researched. The video even has what song is being played in the background cuz most of the time you find a song in a video and can't seem to figure out the name or who made it. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!! subscribed for sure :)
Btw I would totally be a guardian above all else, the archaeologist sounded pretty sweet as well. Kinda like Indiana Jones if he was a lightsaber wielding wizard .
The prequels had so much lore I love it. I was hoping during the sequel Era we could see jedi in their prime once more
Then disney came
you can, just go read the books^^
Bruh, Rey Palpatine learned all these specializations within months of training. Meanwhile, Luke got old and grumpy and decided to forego his great inner strength and wisdom to murder his padawan.
It was so boring to see the original trilogy plot line again, I was hoping to see Luke as a powerful grandmaster with a new Jedi order. The hopeful end of the OT is ruined knowing that basically everything was lost just a few years later again
I would've been a Jedi Ace, till they kicked me out for doing too many barrel rolls in peace time.
"Now this is pod racing!" Though I would do the same
Why? Cause spinning is a good trick. :)
jedi maverick requesting fly by...
Amazing video! I love this channel because you do list videos like this. They are very interesting and teach us a lot about the various types of things in the star wars galaxy. Would like to see more :)
It would be so much fun to be a Jedi knight or mandalorian
The game Star Wars the Old Republic allows you to play as a Jedi, Sith, Trooper, Bounty Hunter, and more lol. I recently started and it's so much fun
swtor
"Adventure? Excitement? A Jedi craves not these things"
7:09 Master of the Order
7:34 Jedi Grand Master
8:12 Mastery
9:18 Jedi Guardian School
11:22 Jedi Counselor School
15:46 Jedi Sage
16:08 Jedi Sentinel School
18:47
Love these videos man
What about the Jedi Assassin?
They're Sentinels and are quite similar to the shadows and investigators. Their main objective is to use the force to hunt down sith. I may be wrong and Jedi Shadows are the same thing so if you could clear this up that would be great.
The Jedi are not assasins you are twisting undercover work with assassination that is not something the jedi do.
@@barneywarren4640Except they did but regretted it because it was not the Jedi way lmao
Beautiful! Magnificent piece of art you created. I ❤it! Fantastic story telling and arrangement.
“You are on this council,But we do not Grant you the rank of Master”
Consular for me. Would prefer to see things through and check on a lot of differing perspectives before either brokering a fair deal or two or striking down possible oppressors with the help of justified evidence and permission from some higher-ups and even the Force to do such a thing. (Yes, the latter is a Guardian concept, but that's also part of my mindset.)
Bonus if I'm also an Ace.
Finally a new upload from my favorite Star Wars lore channel!!!! ❤️🔥
You've fought nearly nonstop for 10 years, You've nearly run out of enemies to fight, then you see your nemesis and have him in your clutches.
Then a wall of force proof bon fire stops you from taking vengeance on someone who has been a hobo for ten years...
I always found it sensical that the Jedi Order had highly specialised positions.
A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials.
There is another rank in legends Barsen'thor of the jedi order this rank was given to the most powerful jedi in terms of force ability or force affinity. This title translates to the the warden of the order.
I’d definitely be a peacekeeper. The idea of tracking down criminals and working with law enforcement on planets such as Coruscant sounds really cool.
Bro be a cop
Yeah violently surpressing civil unrest on a planet that suffers from such massive inequality like Coruscant sounds like a right laugh.
Then you have truly fallen to the dark side
Wizard cops!
@@pmc8451 congrats you described every society in human history
Simplified list (in text form) with all ranks will be great.
I love legends, also the longer vids. Marvelous!
this is a solid video! so much depth on the jedi
I would want to either be an Historian, with the goal of codifying how the Tenets of the Order evolved throughout history, or as a Biologist so I could spearhead conservation efforts and improve relations between the main Order and the Service Corp. However, the way I envision using the Force is more in line with the Sentinels - even if none of their subcategories jive as well with me as the Historians or Biologists do.
Be careful not to become Kreia, she was a historian before she want to destroy the Force (joke)
@@yaujj65 And a damn good one! XD
This was a great vid! Thank you for putting your time, and effort into researching and producing it! I really enjoyed it!
Lore Master in with the save with an amazing video just in time for dinner! Hell yeah!
I want more of this
Thanks for this video
20:46 *NOW TAKE A SEAT, young Skywalkers.*
Lol
I was expecting the title of Jedi Lord and thought you weren't gonna mention it. Happy that you did.
What an amazing video, thank you very much!
I’m only realising now how much Jedi there was before order 66
10:39 !!! Finally an answer to why Ashoka has white light sabers, and no one else does!!
Looks like Bariss Offee's rant about th Jedi not being peace keepers resonated with her after burying her old saber.
White sabers are made using a Sith crystal (red) that has been purified with the light side of the force. Because Ahsoka is not a Lucas character Disney likely changed this to fit into their vision of how things should have been.
If they ever have a show based on Young Yoda, they really need to dwell deep into the process of younglin train all the way to padwan. Be interesting to see many other characters in the training process. Like the first Harry Potter movie, but with Jedis
The Jedi chef used the force to flavor food and make dat lamb sauce bussin.
Some interesting ethical implications with some of these- would the Jedi who collaborate with police or governments accept injustice to maintain peace? If the options are slavery or war on a planet, what would they choose? And what are the ethical procedures of the Jedi who do generic experiments? Seems like messing with the force in such a way can have horrible and dangerous results.
Well the first question is answered, although I know 2 cases where the Jedi uphold the Republic injustice with the massacre of the True Mandalorian and subjugation of the Kaleesh.
The Jedi are still good but they have become stagnated and follow the Republic even when they become corrupted.
I think the problem is that the Republic and Jedi are too interconnected. I am not sure whether they are codependent
The thing is, a Jedi can only do so much. They’re just one person with maybe a padawan helping. If there’s some kind of grand scale injustice, they can’t just wave a hand or a lightsaber and magically fix everything.
Consider Qui-gon on Tatooine. He can’t single handedly end slavery across the planet, at least not with the time he has, but he can help out where he can by freeing Anakin and trying to free his mother.
As for the researchers, regular scientists have ethical guidelines as to what they’re allowed to do with experimentation methods, I don’t imagine the Jedi wouldn’t also.
As cool as peacekeeping sounds, I'd realistically be a Consular working with the archives in some capacity.
Nothing wrong with either. :)
18:00 Probably Jedi Sentinel, Watchmen. I think I could do well being on a single planet as a rep for the temple. Taking time to get to know the people there and forming good long term relationships with the locals.
I learnt a lot from this video. Keep up the Good Work
If I had any inclination for a Jedi Class, somewhere within a Counselor and Artisan hybrid feels like a strong affinity for my life, I enjoy the concept of building from imagination and applying it for practical use.
5:45 The fact that this looks like a force skewb is either a funny coincidence or the best pun ever
Probably a jedi consular sage, since I would want to defend others but rely more on the force
I would be a jedi quartermaster since its the closest thing to being an engineer in the jedi order,maybe even create an engineer field aimed to design and create new technologies to simplify and possibly improve the life of the other jedi,and perhaps of the universe
This video really puts into perspective how tragic Order 66 was on the galaxy.
The jedi academy is basically set up to be an awesome anime, special powers, an ambiguous and complicated beliefs system, a well meaning but ultimately flawed leadership structure, opportunity for a ton of unique and uncoventional character designs, a wise mentor to choose the main character for reasons other people don't see, hell there's even a tournament arc lol
Jedi recruiting would make an interesting show or movie of a master finding his replacement or something like that
I think they went WAY too deep with some of these specializations (Jedi Ace? LOL, alright…)
BUT, the idea of a Jedi Sentinel sounds rad AF. Jedi detectives, bounty hunters, internal affairs agents, etc. You can’t dislike that idea. That warrants further spotlight (but not from Disney)
I mean . . . they kind of own Star Wars so ANYTHING in terms of Star Wars we get for the foreseeable future is "from Disney." Although I mean . . . the Mandalorian, Andor, Visions, Rebels it hasn't all been bad. I would love to see more of the Jedi Order though, especially their internal lives. They've always been my favorite part of the franchise.
Honestly, I would rather be part of the sentinel group and I would want to specialize as a Jedi shadow are the only group that for the most part did survive the Jedi purge in legends anyway. Also, they're taught a wide range they are the Jedi Order's special forces Group.
Great video! The lore is epic!
12:39 is basically the lore master Confirming he’s a Jedi
This was informative. Thank you TRULY.
I find the combination of Artisan and Investigator to be most fitting for myself.
Designing starships to the highest possible standards. Crafts of artisanal quality, unparalleled in their beauty and effectiveness. And being able to fly them to their best potential, of course.
Yet in times of necessity seeking out criminals and dark side cults in order to protect citizens of the galaxy, as well as seeking missing persons.
These two combine the Sentinel school‘s teachings best fitting for me. Being connected to citizens, working with them as equals, but not hesitated to protect them.
Nice video, well made. But by the 12 minute mark, I was expecting to hear about Jedi electricians and painters and maybe Jedi Janitors.
This cool video mister the lore master
padawans that failed their test were also sent to become jedi temple guards, not just serve in the service corps.
@@wren1024 yes it was.
The only reason I think they failed is because they got balance confused as they wanted only light side instead of light and dark like in “dawn of the Jedi” comics
Classic lore master videos
I’d choose something with a combination of wisdom and knowledge seeking as well as mastering force and saber combat. The goal would to of course become a powerful and wise warrior with much honor. But the far larger goal would be to understand the force and afterlife and one’s purpose in life and live accordingly
Given your content you'd make a great lore keeper 😄
Great job with the video.
I five questions for anyone.
1. Which one do you prefer: Sith or Jedi ? If you had to be A Sith who would be your master ?
2. What is your favorite era in the legends universe ?
3. What is your favorite movie and what would have happened if Galen Marek had completely join the dark side ?
4. Who do you prefer: Shaak Ti or Aayla Secura
5. And do you think should be the wife of my Star Wars creative character-Shaak ti or Aayla Secura ?
5) None of them, having a wife is against the jedi code
@@maffiatmarcatto367 It didn't stop Anakin.
@@savagedarksider5934 and look what he became
@@maffiatmarcatto367 Anakin would've fallen to the dark side anyway(...) It is part of his destiny.
1. I prefer the Sith, and if I were a Sith I would prefer to have either Plagueis or Darth Bane (Dooku is an honorable mention). Plagueis because he would actually care about me or at least want to keep me around, as he believed the Rule of Two to be done. He would allow me to benefit from his midichlorian research, allowing us to become immortal overlords. He would also see me as an equal partner after a long enough apprenticeship. Bane, due to his principled outlook compared to most Sith, and his willingness to make me as good a Sith as I could be. If I were a Jedi, I would want either T'ra Saa, Luke Skywalker, or Kyle Katarn as my master. T'ra Saa due to her being a Clone Wars era Jedi that could be quite devout to the Jedi Code, but who could love and be quite motherly. She could see you as a person and be there for you. Luke, due to his fixing of all the previous Jedi issues and the likelihood that I would probably wind up as one of the most powerful Jedi of all time. And, Kyle Katarn due to his more balanced philosophy, and his skill as a teacher.
2. My favorite era is either the Fall of the Republic/Rise of the Empire Era (1,000 BBY-0 BBY) or the collective era of: the Rebellion era, the New Republic era, the New Jedi Order era, and the Legacy era (0 BBY-4 ABY, 5 ABY-25 ABY, 25 ABY-37 ABY, and 37 ABY-140 ABY). I particularly like the Legends Clone Wars era due to its consistency and the quality of its stories (minus TCW 2008 as it retcons way too much good stuff to fit). The Empire and Rebellions era for a similar reason, just less so. The New Republic and New Jedi Order eras are when the creative minds of the writers were at their peak, for good or ill. Plus, I like the NJO's members about as much on average as the Clone Wars lineup. And Legacy, because the Legacy of the Force novels were damn good, and the Legacy comics are horribly underrated.
3. My favorite film is "The Empire Strikes Back", as I would say it is objectively the best of the films in all areas. "Revenge of the Sith" is a close second, followed by "A New Hope" and "Return of the Jedi". As for Galen, things would be a better outcome for the Rebellion if Vader was dead, but would progress similarly.
4. I prefer Shaak Ti because she was a badass, but so was Aayla. I do find Aayla's story of losing and eventually reclaiming herself very touching, and very heartbreaking in its end. As the reason she gets lit up so bad in Order 66 is due to Commander Bly and his men caring about her so much that they didn't want her to suffer. They wanted her end to come swiftly and almost gently, as she did die on the first volley, and the rest was insurance.
5. Aayla already has Kit Fisto, a stint with her Master Quinlan Voss, and a fling with Commander Bly. As for Shaak Ti. She never struck me as one for romance, but she would be the only potential option. I say potential, because the likelihood still is not great.
Man, I wonder how much different in organizaton, philosphy and application Luke's New Jedi Order was(in legends).
It's the same as the old one here in this video with some differences, a couple of differences I know is that force-sensitive individuals can join at any age instead of being taken very young like in the old days, love is encouraged between Jedis instead of being shunned due to fear of falling to darkness, love is a powerful emotion after all and lastly, they remove themselves from political galactic affairs, the new Jedi order is their own sovereignty in the galaxy and while they work alongside the galactic republic like the old Jedi order did to some degree, they don't take orders from them, not even from their new chancellor, under the leadership of Jedi grandmaster luke skywalker, the new Jedi order takes peacekeeping taskforce very seriously.
Watching this really made me agree to anakins statement. How can you be on the council, but not a master?
It's hard to believe with so many jedi around, with so many specializations, none of them sniffed Sidious' grand scheme
Turn subtitles on and go to 12:48
He says "librarians" and the subtitles show "liberians."
I don't think they had space Liberia, but maybe?
I would be a Jedi Shadow (Sentinel) because Jedi Shadows were permitted to study and wield Dark Side Force Powers beyond what was normal for a Jedi Knight. Best way of surviving Order 66 if I was assigned to the Jedi Temple at that point, unless I encountered Anakin.
Jedi Secret Police?
Internal Affairs would have sounded less ominous.
Hard to believe that Order 66 was able to kill all the Jedis.
Well considering most were caught off guard and after 3 years of watching Jedi fight finding weaknesses like overwhelming them with large numbers its not too hard to believe
Lord Vader entered to Jedi Home
There were around 10,000 Jedi Knights defending the galaxy! In Wookieepedia, (1% survival rate with 100 or so surviving)!
Awesome video man!!
I definitely be a Grand Jedi Master and from the Old Republic and somewhat survive 4000 years of war
For grandmasters since this is legends you should’ve included images of Satele Shan and Nomi Sunrider
I would love to be a jedi sentinel because they focused on some lightsaber and force skill but combined them with practical skills which sounds amazing
Great video, a lot I didn’t know. Wish there were time stamps though but nonetheless awesome vid
Here we are again, at the learning tree.