Should You Accept Long Uber Rides?
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- Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
- In the past, accepting long rideshare trips made a lot of sense - you were guaranteed to make money! However, lower rates have changed things, and a long ride might not be worth your time. Here's how to determine if longer rides are worth your time.
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+Brad Shores Thanks, I appreciate that!
really?
Thank you, thank you for your concise and straight to the point information.
you are clear, concise, and to the point. Thank You Man.
Thanks for all of these great tips!
Uber already have the destination matching and I love it
I am an uber driver myself, I don't mind taking long rides
Love your videos, very informal
+Dave Conrad Thanks!
GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU
I get asked a lot about this, which is better, long or short rides and I've been keeping track. I can go give the standard "long ride" in my area, it's from a certain town to the airport and I get one every day about. That gives me about $0.90 a minute for 35 minutes. Or I can go downtown and give minimum rides back to back and get about $0.85 a minute. It's close enough in my opinion to say that neither is better. I enjoy both. It's nice to relax and just drive and it's nice to see a lot of people and feel the downtown buzz and they pay about the same.
I like the long trips but when I was called to a bus station for a couple that wanted to go 5 hrs away 2 a different state, I had 2 say no. 5hrs. why didn't they just stay on the bus? I wasn't gonna get home till the next day. now that's a trip they should definitely schedule.
They probably got thrown off by he bus.
Oh u pussy. That 5 hour trip would have been over 500 dollars?? Prolly close to $700. For 5 hrs there and 5 hrs back that’s what the gig is about.... you sir ain’t about that life
I have accepted alot of long rides. However the destination is always NYC and NYC Queens. In NYC I can only drop off in these areas because only those with a TLC can pick up in Queens, Brooklyn and Manhattan. Dependent upon traffic these ride requests have taken me an hour and 30 minutes before reaching my drop off point not to mention return trip home. I do receive ride requests once I hit Nassau County and I generally stay in that area. What I want to know is where are the ride requests that go to New Jersey or Pennsylvania in my area. I can at least pick up in those states.
I did a long trip for Uber it was good I took a customer to the airport after he delivered a fire truck n the guy was happy that got to the airport in time before his plane took off just subscribed to ur channel
I can relate. Uber is always changing and so we each starting period have too.
45 min is max for me
OK for the people who wonder why this would be an issue, I was going to quit in an hour because I had an important medical appointment. Then I got a ride that would take me over two hours round trip. Normally I wouldn't care, but under the circumstances I couldn't do it.
+Janet Paxson Good point - so how did you handle it? The tough part is that you don't know the destination until after you start the trip :(
More good stuff! You're right, deadhead miles are important. Any time that your wheels are turning, without a passenger in your vehicle, you are losing money, right? Thanx for the good video.
Yeah what happens if the person is already in the car telling you I need to get to the airport as quick as possible I start heading to the airport in town and they want to go to an airport in another state?
Haha. I always end up farther away from my home at the end of the night. Uber games I guess
bolind2 man I’m the same way today I end 1hour away from my house
Good morning. I am a Uber Eats driver now. I applied for a Uber rideshare driver. Past everything. Waiting on my background check. How will it take to go through? Can I still do Uber Eats?
I took a passenger to an airport outside my state 110 miles, and he gave me a $26 tip which helped for my ride home. So i made my daily goal in just one ride and took off the rest of the day 😃
i have been doing uber for 3 yrs now. i live in Wilmington we get paid $0.60 a mile about and it is almost never worth taking a ride out side your traffic area. that means if you are not likely to get a ride around your destination and at some point soon back, its a bad ride. if its going to take more than 15 mins to get to a ride friendly location cancel the ride. how do you do this? first call the rider and ask if their leaving town, if you get resistance from the rider devolving their destination then start the ride just before you arrive. if you complete the ride with in about a quarter mile and/or 3 min it will cancel the ride instead. by doing that you will know their destination before you pick them up. and still be able to cancel.
can you make a video about intercity rideshare app?
Today I took a long trip....then I requested a “destination” back to my area. Instead, I got a trip that put me 2 hours away from my area...so much for the destination or the long trip feature .....I’m. 4.96 driver and each day get a little more discouraged ....
I took a ride from northern NJ to Laguardia airport in Queens NY. Although the distance and time with no traffic is short, NYC and it's boroughs have unpredictable traffic patterns and you can get stuck in gridlock traffic for long periods of time. Do you agree that I should cancel trips into NYC and it's boroughs? I only made $50.00 ($28.00 total tolls) included in this. A tip would've been nice too, but all I got was thanks. PS-I also had stop for him to use a rest room. Not getting the warm and fuzzies from this ride!
Honestly not sure it'd be worth it - maybe see if they have luggage and that way you don't have to deal with starting and then canceling the trip.
UBER destination filter works much better than Lyft. Make about $30 going home. $0 with Lyft.
Uber is better but lyft helped me few tiMEs
How do you see all this info so many videos warn about (pool/line, 15min away) *before* picking up your passenger??
I did my first long ride yesterday. Valley stream, ny to Shelton Connecticut. Passenger didn’t tip.
i have a question. Lets say you take a trip from sacramento and end in los angeles. Do rates change for the time you spend in each city you drive thrugh? Thank you!
Nope - the rate where the pickup occurs will be the rate for the whole trip. Hope this helps!
Today I got a ride 'long ride', said 45+mins. So I was expecting maybe 1hr, even 2. But it was 4 hrs and 45 minutes. And it was 430pm. Riders were not happy I canceled the trip. I stayed with them, as they called other drivers that all left when they got the destination.
Thanks what i do, is when im done with the long trip turn off the app. and go home. :)
Yea and that's why it's tough bc those miles are all unpaid.
unpaid ? I see mileage deduction of .54 a mile. I don't believe in dead miles ;-)
UberStan agreed
The Rideshare Guy A matter of perspective, I figure the initial boom payment into my round trip and get right back to base unless I find bargain on let go offer up or some other allure that I normally can't get locally. Request me for New England so I can get full belly clams.
mskeishapac Good healthy idea. Obligatory to stretch after being in a figurative sardine can for an hour and a half, especially when you are tall like us.
It was the end of my shift and I got a passenger that was going 62 miles to Daytona. You don't know where they are going until they're in you car and you start the trip. I thought it would be good money so I accepted. Customer told me they were being charged $100 for trip. My pay for driving 62 Mike's was only $34!! I drove back empty. 125 miles for $34. Uber is fleecing the drivers now more than ever. DO NOT DO VERY LONG TRIPS. Only Uber benefits. NEVER AGAIN!
How do u know if it's a long trip they don't tell you the destination until they are in your car
You don't until you start the trip :(
Right. This is the exactly the point that I was going to make. How can you question whether to take a long trip when you don't even know the destination until the customer is in your car and you hit "begin trip" on the app? If you do that and see that the trip is farther than you want to drive, then you'll have to cancel the trip AFTER the customer has already gotten into your car, and have a pretty pissed off customer who may not want to use the service in the future.
10S Coach My app will say 45+ on the initial request
@@242HP don't wait until the passenger is in your car. Hit the arrive button before you get to them, then you can see where they are going.
I have done 2 long trips.....San Jose to San Fran airport and downtown SF. Even though it is only 35 miles....it is at least 1 hour to there....depending on traffic and then more time back. What the kicker is....no tip. I have done 2 to 4 mile trips and have got tips.....I don't get why people don't at least drop a buck or 2. I am not a jerk....I talk to them (if they want) and am always courteous.....nothing.
my question about this is that we don't know the destination until we've actually started the trip. At that point, how do we cancel the trip without charging the rider?
+Janet Paxson You'd have to end the trip and take a hit to your rating (most likely) or ask the pax to cancel and let them know they can e-mail uber to get re-imbursed either way.
+The Rideshare Guy Knowing the destination beforehand is exactly what i was thinking...I see this video is almost a year old - has anything changed? But what am I supposed to do...get the rider in my car and if it is too long...tell them "sorry I cant do it, I am canceling the ride" ???
Sounds like a good way to guarantee bad ratings.
Here in KC we get all the good stuff last, we still don't have the destination filter...Even tho stoopid UBER support seems to think we do.
Who else got an Uber ad before this
i don't understand how to get another ride home. for instance I'm in Lansing mi I got a to the Detroit airport I would have been willing to sit around for a bit to serif I could get one going back. But the app then tells me I'm out of area
Odd... Here's some info from Uber about DTW, maybe this helps? Airports usually have some special rules etc., that may be part of the issue - www.uber.com/drive/detroit/airports/detroit-metropolitan/
Alternatively, you can always drive a little ways outside the airport, near any hotels, etc. and set the destination filter to your house to find a rider who's going that way.
I did a 4 hour trip this past weekend and got the same pay as a hour and a half ride. Dont make sense.
How do you know if it's a long trip before you accept it? I've just done six Uber drives in my life and I accepted a trip request but wasn't looking too close at the screen. When I got to the rider and slid the 'begin trip' bar, I saw that she wanted to go to a town that was 90 miles away. I took her and the trip went smooth, but it would be nice to know, before I accept, if it is a long trip. Do you have a screen-picture of what the 'long trip warning' looks like, the one that supposedly pops up to tell you if it's a long trip, so I know what to look for next time I accept trips?
Great question! Actually just covered it today: therideshareguy.com/what-does-ubers-long-pickup-fee-look-like-for-drivers/
Both Uber and Lyft now display the approximate length of the trip in minutes when the request comes in so drivers have an idea. Lyft also gives a general direction, i.e. south east, north west, etc.
To all Rideshare drivers, I do drive for Rideshare occasionally. This weekend I had real life lesson with Uber. I did not do my homework and study Uber and Lyft on youtube "The Do's and Don'ts". I was driving south on 75 near Port Charlotte in Florida at about 4 am and I received a Scheduled premium pickup request that was 18 minutes away, (to my thought perhaps an airport destination) and I accepted it. I screenshot the moment I accepted the request to keep tangible information of the initial start of pickup. Once I was approaching the designated exit according to the GPS I have driven 12 minutes and I was 6 minutes to my destination, just before getting on the ramp the driver Updated the pickup destination and immediately the GPS rerouted me to continue south one more exit and at this point I screenshot again. Now pickup destination inflated from 6 minutes to 12 minutes, therefore the total minutes of would've been initially have been 24 minuets for the pickup destination. I thought two things ( the pickup is just another exit and the rider is watching me and being crafty with the Uber App). Once I arrived it was just one person and he seemed anxious to get in the in. Now at this moment I did 2 screenshots (arrival & destination). Once I arrived and picked him up, his final destination was only 7 minutes away, he lived in remote gated community that was far and deeply away from any close enough Rideshares or taxis. Half through the trip the rider said to me >>> " I'm sorry for the long distance pickup, but I've been taught by other riders who live far and tucked away the best way to get an Uber or lyft is to make SCHEDULED and shorten the 1st pickup distance and time, and if the driver gets closer to the ramp/exit then I update the pickup destination to prevent the drivers to cancel and this way it's broken up in two pickup kinda short distances and I'm not charged the "long-distance fee". your better chances is to Cancel because you will be obligated of going further distance and time " It's a well Thought -Out for the Rip-Off Riders" and No Uber or Lyft will Pay You!
FYI - I got both positive and negative feedback from Uber on the same refused ride that would have taken me 2 hours in a blizzard and left me in a non-service area.
+C.J. Anderson What was the feedback?
+The Rideshare Guy I contacted Uber immediately as it was the first and only refusal and the customer was abusive. It agreed with the refusal. After the app updates post the recent legal sentiments, the incident shows as a professionalism issue in the partner app....
i picked up a couple of gentlemen from Napa, of coarse i don't know where they are going, until i saw the app that said the trip was 1 hr 11 min long. and i always ask, "where are we headed?" they said, "San Rafael." before we got there, the other guy asked if i could drop him off to Danville, which was another 1hr 5min. i said sure. before we got to San Rafael, i got PING 6 times and i ignored all of them. when we arrived at the first destination, he entered the second destination, and i took him there. i'm a new driver by the way. how was i suppose to handle those situations? my acceptance rate went from 95% to 65%. thanks and thanks for your videos.
You handled it correctly - Uber saw you were on a long ride and shouldn't have sent you those additional pings unless, for some reason, it was an UberPOOL ride. If it was an UberPOOL ride, you would have had to pick them up. But since you're new I wouldn't worry about it too much, Uber doesn't deactivate for low acceptance anymore.
In California 60 cents per mile not good for long trips
Yesterday, on my third day driving for Uber, I had a 135 mile fare. I live in Lake Placid, NY which is way away from anything. I did not want to take this but the rider was in a bad situation because they had a flight to make. I took it and it went smooth but there was no way anyone would be going back 135 miles north of Albany so I spent 5 1/2hours for $113. That in my opinion is really bad. I really wish there was a return fare I could get? Otherwise I feel like I have to reject any long fares?
Were you able to turn on your destination filter? That's usually the best case scenario.
Yes, I did actually turn it on but Lake Placid was too far away and the app told me I couldn't add that location. I probably could have destination filtered towns on the way home but I don't know those towns and decided not to Uber there. Plus there are only a few town off of the major highway I have to use to go home and they are quite rural. Thank you for your suggestion.
The way I look at it is on the one hand, if you drove 5.5 hours and made $113, that's like making a little over $20 an hour, which to me, is awesome. On the other hand, wherever I end up, if I have time, I would stay in the other city and do some trips there for a few hours before going home. I live in Jacksonville and I've gotten trips taking people to Orlando Airport. So I get there, and I'll stay in Orlando for a few hours doing trips. Hell, I'll utilize my SeaWorld pass and ride some rides while I'm there. So for me, long rides are a win-win.
I had one very long Uber trip back in 2019 from Syracuse to New York City $225 plus $40 tips
My personal rule. I love long rides, except during the top of rush hour. Those 40+min rides usually end up only going 15 min during that time. :( Best day I had was when I spent all day taking people to and from the airport.
If any other Orlando drivers know good spots to drive with Uber/lyft feel free to let me know. I just started to drive on my downtime to make extra cash.
Rideshare rides are offered with an Illegal contract in several areas, The most important area is every ride a driver takes is a breach of the contract in itself, as the offeror alerts the driver without telling him where he's going and thus the offer to the driver disallows him or her from consideration, which makes this an invalid and illegal contract from the start. As well this type of ongoing contract is against contract law in several areas, such as business professions in most states if not all of them.
The driver when alerted of a ride he must tap the app on his dashboard with I accept, then proceed to ???? wherever the app sends him and the driver still not knowing where he is going to drop off this rider, say New York or Main from Ca. or let's just say it's 100 miles and he has to be in court where these companies that he subcontracts with end up constantly and will finally end there.
I might add this one other Idem and that is that these companies are in bed with the TA without a dought. It is their job to stop these types of abuse which there are many, such as how much it cost to operate a vehicle. Just for shits and giggles CA. 54 cents mile.
In Federal the cost of operation is 58 cents a mile, now let's say you drive 5 miles without pay to pick up a driver, that is 2.90 without pay. Now just for shits giggles, say the driver takes the rider 100 miles, that is according to the law is .58 cents.
Now let's just add what the company pays during most rides at 85 cents a ride or less for those 100 miles $85, now subtract $58 from $85 and wallah, U receive a walloping $28 dollars for your service. The companies are robbing the driver of a reasonable wage unless U think U can run a business for less than the minimum $1.30 per ride per mile and that my friend is robbery.
There are numerous cases in the US courts that have determined that $ 1.30 per mile is the minimum for drivers to be fair and equitable.
I have talked to many drivers that will have to buy a new car as result of ridesharing with Uber or lyft or maybe other? They wore out their cars before their financing was finished by two or three years and now have to buy a new or used car while still owing on the first one that's now worn out.
Next is fair wage in the state of say CA. Which if U take into consideration the free ride to pick up and low pay for destination is close to five dollars an hour.
I had a guy that requested a ride from our airport in Central IL to Indy. That's about 180 miles away. The request came in at about 9:30 at night. I refused primarily because I was on-call for my main job. I can get away with doing Uber in those cases because the riders usually only go 10-15 miles at the most! But, there's no way I could do it that late at night because I'm not a late-niter. Even if I could last the trip of 3 hours that late, I would have to pay for a hotel, because there's no way I could make the trip back that late! That was the most outrageous request I've ever received! I've heard of some drivers who've taken requests to go to Chicago, which is about 170 miles away!
Yea that's understandable to me.
DaHackman1 u missed out on alot of money though.. i understand everyone is different. But thats the kind of ride most of us pray for every night. It's all on the clock time except on your way home.
No tip = no five stars! It's not fair to the people who tip. The tippers are the only five star customers.
+Exile Stones Understandable but personally I don't do that: therideshareguy.com/my-rating-system-for-uber-and-lyft-passengers/
yep exactly
Thats because you don't know business. Keep giving them 5 stars for nothing.
Nope. I give them 5 stars because they see the rating before rating me. I used to think like you, but decided that it should be like rating us; 4 is a fail. They have to do something bad for me to drop the rating, and not tipping isn't it.
I show them my phone and give 5 no matter what...I haven't received anything lower then a five because they see fo themselves that I am giving them 5 even if they were not a five.it has worked for one year...I tell them they were a five star ride and I show that I gave it to them... giving anyone a low rating won't help your rating at all. People have made a mess and I tell them that I got it and I vacuum it up and continue..this gets me more tips and they are relieved that I won't drop there rating...one lady gave me five stars because I didn't play rap music..people can be unreasonable about their rating.
Could a long ride be given to the uber customer, off the uber clock, say for cash? Would that upset uber? I would do longer rides in a second if if were not for the dead head, and ubers low rates.
Uber can deactivate you for this but yes lots of drivers do this. Some get away with it by calling it a tip :) Just note if you do a ride off the app you don't have commercial insurance/licensing/etc..
Doing a trip off the app just isn't worth the risk, IMO, because your own insurance policy isn't going to provide you with the same amount of coverage that you'll get from Uber while you have a customer in your car. Unless you're running your own driving business and have a commercial grade insurance policy with high liability coverage ($1M +), you're taking a big risk driving people on your own.
You have to dead head miles drive no matter when you do it. The Start, Middle or end of your day. Short of being psychic you will never now which direction the next rider will direct you to go.
+JustDanO Good point but if it happens early on in the day at least you can drive around all day and maybe get back to your area. But if it happens later, that is when you may want to politely decline the trip..
My longest was 100 miles or 162km
more than one stop...how do I get paid...and waiting
No need to do anything if the app is still running.. ua-cam.com/video/Y88sQNeJ168/v-deo.html
It doesn’t worth unless there is a surge 2x minimum
What about coming back home. How do u know if its long or short trip. It does not tell you
exactly! how do you know where they aee going before you start the trip, call them? i love long trips, stop at a drive thru, put on a movie, and hopefully you dont have to stop for gas! 😉
+Apraham Gogus That's the problem. You don't know where they're going until you start the ride. So at that point, you have to decide if it's worth it or not. If you take the ride, you will probably have to come back deadhead. If not, end the ride and/or ask the pax to cancel and take the hit..
+The Rideshare Guy
first off, thank you for the time and effort you give here.
I'm pretty sure uber would not want to make this mandatory for the rider, but isn't there an option for the rider to input their destination BEFORE a driver accepts the pickup?
I think it's the bill/laiden option.
I did notice you brought up the possibility of them making this an option with compensatory "fairness"?
+Rafael Huerta Yea there is but it's only required on uberpool trips.
+The Rideshare Guy ..ahh. always wondered
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One thing I think is important to add is Lyft rides will cap out at $200
+Paul John Longua Correct all though there are a few cities where it's a bit higher.
+The Rideshare Guy help.lyft.com/hc/en-us/articles/214212387-Ride-Cost-Calculation
Is this correct?
UBER | PASSENGER | ADDITIONAL CHARGES
Additional charges may be added to your trip fare if your driver has to wait for you for more than two minutes or your route includes tolls, airport surcharges, or other fees. Depending on the charge and location, these additional charges may be retained by your driver, paid by your driver to Uber, or passed through to the airport or other third parties.
You may be charged a surcharge for airport pickups and dropoffs. Other fees may be charged by partner-drivers for certain services. For example, venue parking fees and long return trips from a destination may both be charged to the rider.
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I think it depends on the circumstance. In NYC for ex, drivers get a $20 fee for dropping off in NJ since they can't get a fare there and have to drive back empty.
NYC drivers can pick up in NJ. NJ drivers can not pick up in NYC. the 20 usd you said is for the toll to go back to NYC, as going to jersey you don't pay toll
Why is this a question?
+Ramiro Leiva In the past, long rides were no brainers and you could make a lot of money by driving someone 1-2 hours away and then coming back empty handed. But now, that is not the case..
Why would they want to not ride with someone over ethnicity like wtf people are crazy these days
Whenever you start trip and cancell your rating will take a hit.
+Apraham Gogus Yes this is true but one bad rating shouldn't hurt too much.
Stick to the subject. Stay on topic.
Never accept long trip
Long trips no good anymore
You could do the video under 60 secs with the same content
+Gotee Gotee Really? I think this is actually sort of a complex topic because long rides can still be profitable - you just have to consider traffic/time of day/etc. Feel free to re-record though and I'd be more than happy to post it as a guest vlog!
if you cancel the trip the person probably will give you a low rating
Yea you will take a hit on your ratings but sometimes it's worth it
You know what's weird, Harry? I find that on so many of the very long trips I have done that I have always gotten a low rating from the passenger, anyway.... You go to a place you are not familiar with, maybe you miss the right exit by mistake, maybe you had to stop for gas, or to go to the bathroom.... whatever.... I don't do them anymore.
And other times they think the fare should be lower. For instance, one person I drove from Monterey to San Jose, told me he had driven down earlier in the day for $60. I KNEW the fare was going to be twice that and told him so. In the end, his fee was $117 and he thought I had cheated him.
If you cancel a trip before you've driven anywhere, can the customer still rate you? I wouldn't think so, especially if you touch the "Do not charge customer" option when you cancel the trip.