Thanks to Mitchell from Visionary Hydroponics for coming onto the podcast today! Mitchell’s UA-cam channel- bit.ly/3uXhpNT Visionary Hydroponics website- bit.ly/3lpPumP
Great job Chris and Mitch I've been waiting on a hydroponic video to be dropped by somebody soon. Glad to see it was you. Hydroponics is definitely a jaw dropping way to grow. The speed is insane.
Everything this man has said is spot on. Been growing hydro and (R)DWC for over 14 years and everything he has said is spot on. The biggest tip IMHO is whatever nutrient line you are using, start at half dose and work up. This was the biggest thing that pushed my growing to the next level. Great episode! 👍
The dude took a regular $5 construction bucket and just enlarged it on the side. And added another $32.95 to the price? Without a lid)) For a lid another $32.95 LOL)) Also, his bucket is too small. The more liters the better. The solution heats up less. I prefer 30-50 liters. If you're growing in DWC, just make a separate hole in your $5 bucket in the top lid to measure the PH and change the solution! No need to pay for a bucket with a lid $60+. In addition it's very small.
The advantage of RDWC is the movement of water, which prevents stagnation and root rot (but does not eliminate it if the water temperature is above 21 C degrees). RDWC is easier to use and maintain through one main tank than DWC, where each tank is separate if you have 4 or more plants. We can measure PH, TDS, temperature and many other indicators (ORP, Dissolved Oxygen) in one main tank for several plants at once, and not climb into each bucket, as with DWC. The same thing is with the change of the solution. Also, in RDWC it is easier to maintain a low temperature of the solution (up to 21 C degrees), which is very important (perfect when 18-19 C). You can cool the water with a сhiller or simply put ice bottles in the main external tank. DWC only makes sense if you have one plant. He promotes the DWC so much because he just sells these buckets at crazy prices.
I have my first DWC going with an Auto Flower and I'm.... I'm just blown away at the growth and the plant looking like it could not be more healthy. I can't believe what I see every single day. Will grow this way again.
im struggling to get my head around rdwc - currently growing in coco - cant understand lets say ive got 8 x 50L buckets, plus 50L res, thats say around 300L water as not everything filled up to the brim, so @ 4ml/L nutrients have I got to add 1.2L of nutrients at grow and 1.2L nutrients at bloom, plus the top-ups, that seems like ill be getting through a lot more nutrients? and the water, if im using r/o water 300L of r/o water is a fair amount. its just the amount of nutrients that im struggling to understand or do I have it mixed up?
That’s why I have a AutoFlower Breeding Hobby on the side , cause I grow Photoperiod genetics and one day got a hold of autos inside DwC and had a blast and truly made stock to do it again , but little did I know the variety that came from the breed and working them to F4 would ultimately change the entire AutoFlower World 🌍 the way it did. Autos in DWC are the best best way to grow Autos hands down but living soil auto are right up there for the best with DwC so …anyways great 👍 comment
I also grow all organic living soil for some of my auto as well , or that's what I've used since day one .......but now I've seen the DWC my perception has changed.
@@daveselbow9128 you're correct. because you still want your ppms/ec feed schedule to be on point. I personally find I mix a lighter dose if feeding all the time. but your plants will tell you what they need. what you've said is partly what these guys talked about in regards to the wastage/efficiency of rdwc (or any type of recirculating system). and the fact lots can be wasted.
i got a cheap work around for those expensive ass chillers..I went and bought a drinking water cooler off offer up for 20 bucks and just use a small submersable pump to pump the water from my RDWC to the cooler and screwed down the dispencer button and added a small hose to the dispencer spout to drain back to my system and that has been working great for me it saved me almost 300 bucks and works just as good trust me its worth giving it a try if you need a chiller but dont want to go broke doing it this is your savior ...peace and love to all growers of this beautiful plant !!!
I agree, i got on the no till organic method for 4 years but not close to dwc quality even though you hear everyone rave how much better organic is, from my experience not even close to dwc
it is so treu i use to gro soil with bio bizz now i got DWC with hydro nuts they grow so fast you can get in to flower sooner is so great that i trow away the bio bizz or bio shittt
Very true ! It’s also Easy and less complex then other methods . I have so much free time with that method ! DwC and RdWc ! DwC are harder workers and RdWc are working smarter not harder
I’ve been growing recirculating DWC for years and it’s great. I’ve recently been using an oxygen tank to pump pure oxygen through my air pump directly into each bucket. Oxygen regulator is on a timer to run 15 minutes per hour only when lights are on. Trust me this puts the plants in overdrive and improves yields greatly. It’s a very noticeable difference!
Let’s see a comparison side by side a dwc with pure oxygen and without i would be interested in seeing the noticeable difference. Like regular dwc without oxygen produces a pound what would the dwc with pure oxygen produce ? 1.5 pounds ? I would be interested in the results for sure
Thanks for the pod cast. I started with kratky and switched to DWC and was very impressed by the results. For kratky I start with grow nutes and top it with additional bloom nutes when the flowering starts maintaining the PH and PPM. For DWC I use a small siphon(goes all the way to the bottom of the bucket) which is outlets into tin can reservoir, the water level in the can and the bucket will always stay the same.I can check the water level, Ph and refill from the cup. To empty the bucket I just need to lower the tin can till all water flows out. I find this easier and effective than soil grow.
i know this video is a year old but i just wanted to pay homage to my guy Chris. I love the way he makes sure his guests that he interviews always give us a crystal clear explanation or answer. Garden Talk is on my top 10 list of favor grow channels!. Thanks for all the time and hard work you put in to all this. Your the man! Keep Growin...
Mr. Grow It, thanks for asking my most pressing questions about avoiding harmful bacteria and root rot. It seems your guest is more concerned with talking about the Hydrobucket than addressing these questions however. Perhaps he doesn't even realize it's a concern among DWC growers considering his local environment in Canada. At 50:28 Mitchel our Hydroponic Visionary explains to us that in "four days" our DWC water has "drifted" from optimum 68 degrees but can now be replenished with cold water. Wait, what? I live in Texas. My "cold" tap water is 92 degrees coming out of the city main! I don't have a basement mancave in Canada that stays 50 degrees year round. It's 105 outside and my AC is struggling to stay at 82 in my living space. No, I can't move to Canada or buy a Hydrobucket to magically make excess heat go away. Still an interesting episode and informative guest.
Great episode. Been diy dwc since 2013. The hydrobucket is a great idea.that being said if you do a scrog and there is a problem with the such as root rot your still going to have to pull the plant out of the bucket to address the issue. Cleaning the bucket thoughrouly is a must. Hydrogaurd or h202 will help but not completely fix the problem without Cleaning the bucket. Temperature of water has to be ideally 65°-68°f yet room temp @72-78° f. This can be a challenge without a chiller or at the least a very reliable sized appropriately a/c . I find growing primarily in the winter months is easier to keep in check. It's definitely a balancing act. RO water with low ppms is key as well. Alot of nutrient lines geared towards hydroponics are developed with that in mind. I suggest starting out with one plant for newbies for sure. I will say that lifting the plants out of the bucket gets to be a bit of a drag but I've learned the hard way that clean is your friend. I won't even go into ec values and ph 😂 with different nutrient lines and different cannabis strains.
I like the rdwc and a chiller. I think it keeps the nutrients mixed and the water fresh. Single buckets water temp gets to hot and you constantly have to add water. I can flush my entire system outside the tent and refill in 20 minutes. I think he is trying to sell his buckets. Great episode.
Vivosun makes an awesome DWC system for $130.00. 4 buckets. I bought it, but I have not put it to use yet. Waiting until next run. Exciting! Great content. Thank you!
Not bad , there is more you can really hint at with tips and tricks cause the basic is just the idea but the grower that does RdWc and DwC daily knows the difference. Good episode
I live in a warm climate. DWC doesnt work in the summer months here unless you have a nute cooler. The roots go all yellow and sludgy and the plants looked stunted. I've now developed a hybrid DWc/Kratky system through trial and error with space between the basket and the nutrients and an airstone in each pot. I'm using 10 litre pots with 2 litre of solution in them. i let them run to dry, rinse them with water, drain them and put fresh nutes in. So far i've had good results in winter. In summer i go to guano rich soil with algae based organic nuites. Adapting to your conditions is key to success.
I love my HydroBuckets. Bought after watching this the first time and have had great success. EASY with the access lid and great for grows with cultivars with differing happy places
my first dwc garden was in 1990 it was a rubbermaid tote i cut 4 holes into lid since then ive tried several different methods including aeroponics i always go back to dwc easiest and great results
There was a time I was intimidated by DWC. The truth is, as long as you can keep your water temps between 63-_68F, it's the easiest way to get the best results! One issue with most DWC is power outages. Hempy Buckets, although primitive, still can't be beat (for me) A gift. In my profile pic is a cola from the original Skunk#1. The days well before legalization when you can buy a couple packs of seeds, and some of those seeds are still running again. I'm glad Mr Grow it looks at other methods. Hopefully we'll see some new styles now, and again
Dirt is awesome. I made subcools water only super soil and it grows great organic triple A smoke, great yield and potency. I also like dwc and have done that before.
DWC is such a simple and grower friendly system. If you use the right size buckets, you can have it set up so you only need to check on plants once a week as long as the roots have access to the water but some is sitting above it, the plants will be fine even if the pump dies. Also gives incredible growth, plus no tons of soil and root balls to get rid of, just some roots and stalk. Changed from soil like 10 years ago and never went back, never had much luck with soil if im honest, but DWC seemed to be idiot proof for me tbh, great results from the get go.
I'm a RDWC grower I will never do it any other way!!!! After getting over that first grow its very simple afterwards. Biggest advice would be "leave them plants alone!!!" They will tell you quickly if something is wrong belive that!!!
First time with Hydroponics this year, DIY recycled 4 Dutch bucket type system for €5. 1 Melon plant with lots of 1.4 to 1.8kg 🍈fruit Loads of Cucumbers 🥒 Photo gorila glue 4 and a wedding cake auto All grown at the same time. Not prefect but improving 😁 No more soil grows for me👍🏻
4 drc systems to not heat up i made ply wood top to cover the nft as 2 hps gives off so much heat no cooling needed . Ps m8 you can grow decent so easy man you will love it. Great show love it.
DIY Water chiller for under $100 and you don't need a pump for it. Buy a used water cooler off market place ( $15- $35 ), one that you would normally put a 5 gal jug in the top. Now tear it apart so that you are left with the compressor and the cooling coil. Some of the cooling coils are coated in a protective plastic and some are not. If the one you have doesn't have a protective coating on it just wrap a plastic bag around the coil so you don't get any oxidation in your nutrients. Place the coil directly into your nutrient reservoir. Buy a device that will monitor your water temp. I use the ITC-308 ($50). Plug the compressor into the cooling plug on the device and set your water temps. I set my water temp at 67 deg and set the turn on temp at +2 deg (69).
I"m glad to see someone using DWC with auto flowers. On the organic side I've been using the guano company Super Bat and super Bloom since the early 1990's. . I'm just starting on coco coir & feel like a fish out of water. I was so happy to see someone using DWC with auto flowers.
Yet another amazing episode! Thanks Chris for bringing us the info we request and for always having some informed guests that share the how to for us noobs!
Hydro Bucket was a long awaited add to my garden. Way better than a simple CT bucket. Never used a chiller, never needed one even in my greenhouse. Your right, don’t be intimidated and just go for it DWC all the way! BTW YELLOWKNIFE Rocks!
This was a really good episode Chris. . Been wanting to try this style of growing for a while and you just gave me the good information and drive to doit now. Great job guys thanks. Smash that 👍 viewers.
I wish I found out about your hydro bucket before I hit late flower of my first grow haha. Once you hit flower and they blow up it’s a pain and nerve wracking even with a pump. I ordered 4 and anyone thinking of trying dwc needs to make sure they have ordered these hydro buckets before flower! Can’t wait for mine. Great info!
First of all, thank you for this interview! After a 22 year break from cannabis, I decided to set up a RDWC for my "first " grow. I was super excited and put a lot of time into it, too much time. I had all of the issues that you spoke of like water temp being too high and the PH crashed from 5.8 to 4.2 within about three hours, after I flipped to flower. I also found that the nutrient solutions to be expensive, not to mention the failure of equipment that almost destroyed the grow. I had two pumps quit working at different stages of the grow as well as clip fans that died within about 30 days of running them 24/7. The bud was killer, except for the fact that it was seeded! I am certain that the heat stress as well as the PH fluctuation caused seeding. Being an old weed guy (i first smoked in the 70s), seeds didn't scare me. It was a great experience! I now grow in organic super soil and am killing it, with half of the expense and less time spent in the garden. one love~~
Make your next grow your best grow. RdWc current culture or hydro systems or visionary hydro built into custom RdWc isent easy as soil , to be honest it’s tricky at first . You do need to steer it a certin way but it can be done . You can do it ! Try it again brother , make your next grow your best grow.
The only thing stopping me is the extra watts. Efficiency for the grow is one of my goals as well. It's hard to justify when living soil works so well.
@@darthjson3519 no I'm just talking about general increase in power consumption using hydro. You have pumps, airstones, chillers, etc. All these things aren't necessary in living soil. I personally enjoy mixing different dry ammendments to get a desired effect. Living soil just needs water without adjustment. It's simple and less work and requires less power.
@@camz1039 I thought like you until I gave Kratky hydro a try and it grew three times faster than my soil grows had on their best day. They like to sex in three weeks flat now... the extra watts are next to nothing if you do it right: I have one 8w two outlet air pump, one out to each tank to a four dollar air hose/diffuser in each. Ended up, for me, being way cheaper than the cost of soil/amendments
The simple dwc buckets I've seen use 3-5 wat airpumps per bucket. Efficiency is awesome, but gets more complicated when there's 30% faster Veg growth. How much power would finishing faster save?
Dude thank you for this show!! even just the intro answered alot of my questions about hydro. been growing for years in soil. just about to start hydro. just got a new kit!!
Come on Chris - give it a shot! If for nothing else it would make for a good seed to harvest video. If I can do it, you can for sure. I never used a chiller. if keep your buckets on the cement in your basement and that will help keep temps down or frozen bottles of tap water have worked for me and others in a pinch. Just make sure you have a good air pump and stone.... also one last tip don't use a bucket but use a tote. You can get away with not changing the reservoir as often figure you can double, or triple the amount of solution that the roots are suspended in.
I use Lowes or Home Depot bucket and every 2 weeks or whenever it’s time to swap out the water I just mix my nutrients in another clean bucket and just take the cover off with the plant and just put it on the bucket with fresh nutrients. That’s how I grow my cucumbers 🥒 😂
He's talking about dechlorinator solution (& heavy metal neutralizer) at 28:50. Something to consider if your using tap - chloramines do not off gas* I have had good results with API pond, and have been told Microbe Life and some resin products work as well. Great Video!
With Kratky's Method, it will work. The roots drink, so you have to pay attention to the schedule. When approaching flower, you simply introduce those nutrients. Microbes are a must with every water refill. Feeding with this will take some experience for your environment. If you want to feed every watering for consistency, use 1/4 the recommended dosage. If you rather feed every other watering or every 4th watering, that's on you. Gaining experience through experimentation is more valuable than you'll ever know. Pay attention to the plants. If they need less or more, apply accordingly.
As for the taste of a product grown organically in the ground and in hydroponics... There was a video of a gardener submitting cucumbers grown in the ground and in hydroponics for examination. It turned out that there are three times more nitrates in cucumbers grown in the ground.
I have been thinking of home making a DWC bucket and have had an idea for nutrient testing. I am going to find a bucket with a tap near the base, like a brewers bucket but hopefully a little shorter as they can be pretty tall and lose a lot on plant height at a result. The great thing then is you can run off a little solution to test whenever you like and if you discover something really amiss, dump the whole lot out without having to move the bucket
Great vid Chris, I like the fact that you bring different growers and share their point of views and we always learning from you and them as well. Keep up the great work bro.
i'm not sure but @21:40 i feel like this guy just wants to make more money from everyone, 1. you can just tilt the lid enough to get a hose in there and extract the water from the bucket with a cheap ebay pump, then refill it with new water the same way you extracted the water. .2 if tilting the lid is a concern you could just drill an extra hole in the lid for a hose witch is going to do the same thing without disturbing the plant and have some reflective tape or something to cover the extra hole, i don't know i'm very new to DWC but it would make sense to do what i just said above rather then spending an extra $200 - $300 on a pointless access fetcher
Would love some more info on dry nutrients for RDWC. As someone new to hydro this is probably the most frustrating part for me because of the plethora of brands available. It would be great if you could do a thorough break down of what makes a nutrient line better or worse for RDWC specifically. With some examples would be great too. Thanks so much for all the good info! And keep it up.
The common mistakes for hydro with no medium is feeding you get ph spikes and ec spikes as the plant takes on more water than nutrients so as the resovoir level goes down the nutrients level spikes and you have to adjust for this process
he is very correct hydro organics is ALMOST there, you can do synganic. where you use some beneficial bacteria to help. as well as kelp, The issue really for organic grows in hydroponics comes down to is it is hard to make organic dissolvable phosphorus. We can get the N and K pretty easy its the P thats hard.
When I first started growing indoor herbs and leafy greens I thought RDWC was the answer. I quickly learned that all buckets are subject to the same nutrient solution so there is added risk that a mistake can affect all of the plants in the network in addition to the fact that you cannot customize the nutrient needs of any plant over the others. I also found that pump volume combined with well developed root systems created issues with the free flow of solution in the circuit and I had an overflow in the first buckets a number of times. If you are going with RDWC my suggestion is to use the largest fittings and pipe that you can between the buckets. I love the DWC method but have all of my buckets as stand alone growing environments.
The advantage of RDWC is the movement of water, which prevents stagnation and root rot (but does not eliminate it if the water temperature is above 21 C degrees). RDWC is easier to use and maintain through one main tank than DWC, where each tank is separate if you have 4 or more plants. We can measure PH, TDS, temperature and many other indicators (ORP, Dissolved Oxygen) in one main tank for several plants at once, and not climb into each bucket, as with DWC. The same thing is with the change of the solution. Also, in RDWC it is easier to maintain a low temperature of the solution (up to 21 C degrees), which is very important (perfect when 18-19 C). You can cool the water with a сhiller or simply put ice bottles in the main external tank. DWC only makes sense if you have one plant. He promotes the DWC so much because he just sells these buckets at crazy prices.
Great video I'm not a hydroponics guy but like to learn as much as I can about every avenue of growing cannabis and definitely leaned alot hear ty!! 💪💪
Fantastic episode Chris! Mitch made every doubt I had just melt away. My problem was temperature too, thought I'd need a chiller but now know to plan better and work around 'seasons' indoors. Thanks boys, much appreciated
Great info guys! I have been doing a basic dwc grow for about a year now. I use blue planet 3 part nutrients. I don't use a chiller and I haven't seen any problem's yet. The nutrient solution normally sits between 70-75 in the bucket. Also I only change resivoir every 2 weeks. I use half ro and half tap water. My last plant in the bucket was a bubba Kush and it got to be 6ft y'all before I super cropped it.
One thing that helped me with ph in hydroponics is to not add ph down straight to your nutrient solution. Mix the ph down in with a shot glass of water then add that mixture to your system to your desired level.
Great episode ! DWC In my opinion is way easier to learn for the new grower . I’ll have to try one of their buckets . By the time you buy a bucket a stone and air pump for a few more bucks your ready to go . The secondary res so you can check ph and EC is nice .
From experience dwc is the same as any other hydroponic grow as far as growing itself, you still need to do a mix and feed the plants only difference is that in dwc you have the bucket being your reservoir as well canceling out the time you’d spend doing mixes daily or every other day! As far as quality depends on how well and balanced you do your mixes and as far as yield it comes down to your skills as a grower with the plant work you do during veg/ early bloom. Just do it!
Very interesting way to adapt to the issue of lifting the plant. Will have to order a few and test it out compared to rdwc, personally I like the stability that comes with a larger amount of water in your system but I can see where this container could be useful
My suggestion would be to simply drill a hole through the top of your netpot. Plug the hole with a neoprene collar. Remove the neoprene to put in hose to pump in/out nuttient solution. Ph adjust and top off using the same hole. Thats way cheaper than buying his system.
I just got my first DWC buckets, so I'm trying to prepair for a sucessful grow. I have been growing synganic for several years in 1 and 5 gallon peat based soil mixes with salt nutes. I have been having ups and downs with my cloner, which is a practice for full DWC. It seems like if I ignore the cloner, it does great 😅😅
Krakty is only limited to certain plants, like leafy greens? Hmm.. I'll be sure to let my 4th tomato, pepper, green bean, cucumber, squash, and my 2nd watermelon harvest this summer know that they aren't supposed to grow. :) Maybe I'm doing it wrong? But I have grown many different types of krakty style growing plants. Also, they stay outside in the hot idaho sun and I don't have root issues. Unfortunately the worst thing that happens is it gets too hot for the tomatoes, but that's soil or hydro. Unfortunately, I haven't grown medical plants this way, again, Idaho. Cheers
Organic or salt synthetic does not change the flavor ,it all comes down to,did you destroy the roots with extreme level of nutrients through 90 percent of the plants life cycle . It all comes down to how many percent roots do you have left at the last week . Most cases less than 30 percent of good roots is left over. If you have a 3 foot plant with a root zone of 30 percent left because of high nutrient levels . This is why you get good smoke or harsh smoke Technically looking at it ,a 30 percent root system isn’t gonna flush the plant
Wow, such an informative episode. I’ve been following your videos for a while now and this is an amazing episode for jumping into hydro learning about all the attributes of hydroponics. He could be a great hydroponics teacher
Thanks to Mitchell from Visionary Hydroponics for coming onto the podcast today!
Mitchell’s UA-cam channel- bit.ly/3uXhpNT
Visionary Hydroponics website- bit.ly/3lpPumP
Nice man 🔥💯🔥
Sweet, I needed a cool hydro video. Right on time thanks Chris, thanks Mitch. 👍
Not on Amazon. The shipping doubles the price for me, QQ.
Great job Chris and Mitch I've been waiting on a hydroponic video to be dropped by somebody soon. Glad to see it was you. Hydroponics is definitely a jaw dropping way to grow. The speed is insane.
Thanks Chris.
4 year Dwc grower here. I absolutely love hydroponics.
im just gearing up for my first grow ever using dwc. I can't wait!
Everything this man has said is spot on. Been growing hydro and (R)DWC for over 14 years and everything he has said is spot on. The biggest tip IMHO is whatever nutrient line you are using, start at half dose and work up. This was the biggest thing that pushed my growing to the next level. Great episode! 👍
No. 6.3 is about perfect for hydroponics and that is chemistry not grow theory
@@tannermorton986 every cultivar or species of plant requires a difference
The dude took a regular $5 construction bucket and just enlarged it on the side. And added another $32.95 to the price? Without a lid)) For a lid another $32.95 LOL)) Also, his bucket is too small. The more liters the better. The solution heats up less. I prefer 30-50 liters. If you're growing in DWC, just make a separate hole in your $5 bucket in the top lid to measure the PH and change the solution! No need to pay for a bucket with a lid $60+. In addition it's very small.
The advantage of RDWC is the movement of water, which prevents stagnation and root rot (but does not eliminate it if the water temperature is above 21 C degrees). RDWC is easier to use and maintain through one main tank than DWC, where each tank is separate if you have 4 or more plants. We can measure PH, TDS, temperature and many other indicators (ORP, Dissolved Oxygen) in one main tank for several plants at once, and not climb into each bucket, as with DWC. The same thing is with the change of the solution. Also, in RDWC it is easier to maintain a low temperature of the solution (up to 21 C degrees), which is very important (perfect when 18-19 C). You can cool the water with a сhiller or simply put ice bottles in the main external tank. DWC only makes sense if you have one plant. He promotes the DWC so much because he just sells these buckets at crazy prices.
All you need to do is turn the hose, collect the water and test it
I have my first DWC going with an Auto Flower and I'm.... I'm just blown away at the growth and the plant looking like it could not be more healthy. I can't believe what I see every single day. Will grow this way again.
im struggling to get my head around rdwc - currently growing in coco - cant understand lets say ive got 8 x 50L buckets, plus 50L res, thats say around 300L water as not everything filled up to the brim, so @ 4ml/L nutrients have I got to add 1.2L of nutrients at grow and 1.2L nutrients at bloom, plus the top-ups, that seems like ill be getting through a lot more nutrients? and the water, if im using r/o water 300L of r/o water is a fair amount. its just the amount of nutrients that im struggling to understand or do I have it mixed up?
That’s why I have a AutoFlower Breeding Hobby on the side , cause I grow Photoperiod genetics and one day got a hold of autos inside DwC and had a blast and truly made stock to do it again , but little did I know the variety that came from the breed and working them to F4 would ultimately change the entire AutoFlower World 🌍 the way it did. Autos in DWC are the best best way to grow Autos hands down but living soil auto are right up there for the best with DwC so …anyways great 👍 comment
I also grow all organic living soil for some of my auto as well , or that's what I've used since day one .......but now I've seen the DWC my perception has changed.
@@daveselbow9128 you're correct. because you still want your ppms/ec feed schedule to be on point.
I personally find I mix a lighter dose if feeding all the time. but your plants will tell you what they need.
what you've said is partly what these guys talked about in regards to the wastage/efficiency of rdwc (or any type of recirculating system).
and the fact lots can be wasted.
hue hue me too buddy :)) bud my plant looks like its in pain)
i got a cheap work around for those expensive ass chillers..I went and bought a drinking water cooler off offer up for 20 bucks and just use a small submersable pump to pump the water from my RDWC to the cooler and screwed down the dispencer button and added a small hose to the dispencer spout to drain back to my system and that has been working great for me it saved me almost 300 bucks and works just as good trust me its worth giving it a try if you need a chiller but dont want to go broke doing it this is your savior ...peace and love to all growers of this beautiful plant !!!
sounds great and a spare pony res is good to have when you need to pump out the system
DWC is the highest quality I’ve ever grown. Hands down. Just my personal experience.
I agree, i got on the no till organic method for 4 years but not close to dwc quality even though you hear everyone rave how much better organic is, from my experience not even close to dwc
it is so treu i use to gro soil with bio bizz now i got DWC with hydro nuts they grow so fast you can get in to flower sooner is so great that i trow away the bio bizz or bio shittt
Very true ! It’s also Easy and less complex then other methods . I have so much free time with that method ! DwC and RdWc ! DwC are harder workers and RdWc are working smarter not harder
I find Dutch bucket and flood and drain is just as good when done right
How do you Keep the water temps down
I’ve been growing recirculating DWC for years and it’s great. I’ve recently been using an oxygen tank to pump pure oxygen through my air pump directly into each bucket. Oxygen regulator is on a timer to run 15 minutes per hour only when lights are on. Trust me this puts the plants in overdrive and improves yields greatly. It’s a very noticeable difference!
Let’s see a comparison side by side a dwc with pure oxygen and without i would be interested in seeing the noticeable difference. Like regular dwc without oxygen produces a pound what would the dwc with pure oxygen produce ? 1.5 pounds ? I would be interested in the results for sure
I would love to try it. Can you point me to a source on a tutorial that you followed?
Yeah, point us in the right direction fam. Where do you get pure oxygen? What kind of regular do you need?
You can get oxygen from any gas store such as airgas.
@@WilliamTheBot agreed
Thanks for the pod cast. I started with kratky and switched to DWC and was very impressed by the results. For kratky I start with grow nutes and top it with additional bloom nutes when the flowering starts maintaining the PH and PPM. For DWC I use a small siphon(goes all the way to the bottom of the bucket) which is outlets into tin can reservoir, the water level in the can and the bucket will always stay the same.I can check the water level, Ph and refill from the cup. To empty the bucket I just need to lower the tin can till all water flows out. I find this easier and effective than soil grow.
i know this video is a year old but i just wanted to pay homage to my guy Chris. I love the way he makes sure his guests that he interviews always give us a crystal clear explanation or answer. Garden Talk is on my top 10 list of favor grow channels!. Thanks for all the time and hard work you put in to all this. Your the man! Keep Growin...
Mr. Grow It, thanks for asking my most pressing questions about avoiding harmful bacteria and root rot. It seems your guest is more concerned with talking about the Hydrobucket than addressing these questions however. Perhaps he doesn't even realize it's a concern among DWC growers considering his local environment in Canada. At 50:28 Mitchel our Hydroponic Visionary explains to us that in "four days" our DWC water has "drifted" from optimum 68 degrees but can now be replenished with cold water. Wait, what?
I live in Texas. My "cold" tap water is 92 degrees coming out of the city main! I don't have a basement mancave in Canada that stays 50 degrees year round. It's 105 outside and my AC is struggling to stay at 82 in my living space. No, I can't move to Canada or buy a Hydrobucket to magically make excess heat go away. Still an interesting episode and informative guest.
Great episode. Been diy dwc since 2013. The hydrobucket is a great idea.that being said if you do a scrog and there is a problem with the such as root rot your still going to have to pull the plant out of the bucket to address the issue. Cleaning the bucket thoughrouly is a must. Hydrogaurd or h202 will help but not completely fix the problem without Cleaning the bucket. Temperature of water has to be ideally 65°-68°f yet room temp @72-78° f. This can be a challenge without a chiller or at the least a very reliable sized appropriately a/c . I find growing primarily in the winter months is easier to keep in check. It's definitely a balancing act. RO water with low ppms is key as well. Alot of nutrient lines geared towards hydroponics are developed with that in mind. I suggest starting out with one plant for newbies for sure. I will say that lifting the plants out of the bucket gets to be a bit of a drag but I've learned the hard way that clean is your friend. I won't even go into ec values and ph 😂 with different nutrient lines and different cannabis strains.
I like the rdwc and a chiller. I think it keeps the nutrients mixed and the water fresh. Single buckets water temp gets to hot and you constantly have to add water. I can flush my entire system outside the tent and refill in 20 minutes. I think he is trying to sell his buckets. Great episode.
Vivosun makes an awesome DWC system for $130.00. 4 buckets. I bought it, but I have not put it to use yet. Waiting until next run. Exciting! Great content. Thank you!
Not bad , there is more you can really hint at with tips and tricks cause the basic is just the idea but the grower that does RdWc and DwC daily knows the difference. Good episode
He grew peppers in his basement for two year's preparing and hoping that weed would become legal! That's dedication!
Right.. "peppers"... So many "peppers" bro. I also grow "peppers" in my basement. You got any tip for growing "peppers".
@@richardstuivenberg4618 🤣🤣im growing cucumbers in coco for 3 years now if u know what i mean
@@AstroTomX Yeah i know what you mean bro. "Cucumbers" are the shit.
Yes. "Fruitless peppers", I call them.
Bullshit he has to say that. He means he also grew peppers along with his pot . Lol
Good example of how a simple tweak/invention can change everything. Forward thinking at its finest.
This was cool to listen to while I was working on my garden. I’d love to hear more talk about other forms of hydro
I live in a warm climate. DWC doesnt work in the summer months here unless you have a nute cooler. The roots go all yellow and sludgy and the plants looked stunted. I've now developed a hybrid DWc/Kratky system through trial and error with space between the basket and the nutrients and an airstone in each pot. I'm using 10 litre pots with 2 litre of solution in them. i let them run to dry, rinse them with water, drain them and put fresh nutes in. So far i've had good results in winter. In summer i go to guano rich soil with algae based organic nuites. Adapting to your conditions is key to success.
I love my HydroBuckets. Bought after watching this the first time and have had great success. EASY with the access lid and great for grows with cultivars with differing happy places
my first dwc garden was in 1990 it was a rubbermaid tote i cut 4 holes into lid since then ive tried several different methods including aeroponics i always go back to dwc easiest and great results
Thanks! just bought 2 hydro buckets on Amazon. Game changer
There was a time I was intimidated by DWC. The truth is, as long as you can keep your water temps between 63-_68F, it's the easiest way to get the best results! One issue with most DWC is power outages. Hempy Buckets, although primitive, still can't be beat (for me) A gift. In my profile pic is a cola from the original Skunk#1. The days well before legalization when you can buy a couple packs of seeds, and some of those seeds are still running again. I'm glad Mr Grow it looks at other methods. Hopefully we'll see some new styles now, and again
I love DWC. It’s simple and easy.
My first and favorite grow was deep water culture growing.
His hydro buckets are awesome 👌
very good questions, excellent answers. I am back in DWC after couple of years going bio. I got tired of dealing with dirt.
Dirt is awesome. I made subcools water only super soil and it grows great organic triple A smoke, great yield and potency. I also like dwc and have done that before.
DWC is such a simple and grower friendly system.
If you use the right size buckets, you can have it set up so you only need to check on plants once a week as long as the roots have access to the water but some is sitting above it, the plants will be fine even if the pump dies. Also gives incredible growth, plus no tons of soil and root balls to get rid of, just some roots and stalk.
Changed from soil like 10 years ago and never went back, never had much luck with soil if im honest, but DWC seemed to be idiot proof for me tbh, great results from the get go.
started out with a c.a.p 20 yrs ago. still running strong. highly convertible
I'm a RDWC grower I will never do it any other way!!!! After getting over that first grow its very simple afterwards. Biggest advice would be "leave them plants alone!!!" They will tell you quickly if something is wrong belive that!!!
First time with Hydroponics this year, DIY recycled 4 Dutch bucket type system for €5.
1 Melon plant with lots of 1.4 to 1.8kg 🍈fruit
Loads of Cucumbers 🥒
Photo gorila glue 4 and a wedding cake auto
All grown at the same time.
Not prefect but improving 😁
No more soil grows for me👍🏻
4 drc systems to not heat up i made ply wood top to cover the nft as 2 hps gives off so much heat no cooling needed . Ps m8 you can grow decent so easy man you will love it. Great show love it.
I started growing using dwc. Now I use autopots. Love them.
DIY Water chiller for under $100 and you don't need a pump for it. Buy a used water cooler off market place ( $15- $35 ), one that you would normally put a 5 gal jug in the top. Now tear it apart so that you are left with the compressor and the cooling coil. Some of the cooling coils are coated in a protective plastic and some are not. If the one you have doesn't have a protective coating on it just wrap a plastic bag around the coil so you don't get any oxidation in your nutrients. Place the coil directly into your nutrient reservoir. Buy a device that will monitor your water temp. I use the ITC-308 ($50). Plug the compressor into the cooling plug on the device and set your water temps. I set my water temp at 67 deg and set the turn on temp at +2 deg (69).
I"m glad to see someone using DWC with auto flowers. On the organic side I've been using the guano company Super Bat and super Bloom since the early 1990's. . I'm just starting on coco coir & feel like a fish out of water. I was so happy to see someone using DWC with auto flowers.
Great show. I just got done cropping my outdoor grow. Looking forward to getting my hydro on this winter.
Great show. Just starting to grow in new 6 - 8 gallon RWDC. I'm stoked.
Yet another amazing episode! Thanks Chris for bringing us the info we request and for always having some informed guests that share the how to for us noobs!
Hydro Bucket was a long awaited add to my garden. Way better than a simple CT bucket. Never used a chiller, never needed one even in my greenhouse. Your right, don’t be intimidated and just go for it DWC all the way! BTW YELLOWKNIFE Rocks!
This was a really good episode Chris. . Been wanting to try this style of growing for a while and you just gave me the good information and drive to doit now. Great job guys thanks. Smash that 👍 viewers.
I wish I found out about your hydro bucket before I hit late flower of my first grow haha. Once you hit flower and they blow up it’s a pain and nerve wracking even with a pump. I ordered 4 and anyone thinking of trying dwc needs to make sure they have ordered these hydro buckets before flower! Can’t wait for mine. Great info!
3 year dwc grower here. Ill be purchasing his bucket asap
Ask for the 3D printed lids and if you do get them , make sure you find a way to fit it plush with the bucket , it’s the only concern I have.
This episode made me engineer my own buckets. I added a fill spout and a drain spicket. Insulated. 🤙
@@brophymusprime593 hey man what did you used to insulate the buckets if you dont mind me asking?
@@carminbhe1592 double layers. Foam insulation with 3m spray adhesive and then bubble reflective on top of that. My water Temps stay under 68
I'm disabled and can't lift a lid and plant. Hydro bucket is great for me. No lifting.
This episode has really made me want to attempt a RDWC. Thanks for the amazing amount of knowledge!
First of all, thank you for this interview! After a 22 year break from cannabis, I decided to set up a RDWC for my "first " grow. I was super excited and put a lot of time into it, too much time. I had all of the issues that you spoke of like water temp being too high and the PH crashed from 5.8 to 4.2 within about three hours, after I flipped to flower. I also found that the nutrient solutions to be expensive, not to mention the failure of equipment that almost destroyed the grow. I had two pumps quit working at different stages of the grow as well as clip fans that died within about 30 days of running them 24/7. The bud was killer, except for the fact that it was seeded! I am certain that the heat stress as well as the PH fluctuation caused seeding. Being an old weed guy (i first smoked in the 70s), seeds didn't scare me. It was a great experience! I now grow in organic super soil and am killing it, with half of the expense and less time spent in the garden. one love~~
Give it a go Chris. With a sponsor like Dutch Pro, I would do it again!
Make your next grow your best grow. RdWc current culture or hydro systems or visionary hydro built into custom RdWc isent easy as soil , to be honest it’s tricky at first . You do need to steer it a certin way but it can be done . You can do it ! Try it again brother , make your next grow your best grow.
The only thing stopping me is the extra watts. Efficiency for the grow is one of my goals as well. It's hard to justify when living soil works so well.
@@darthjson3519 no I'm just talking about general increase in power consumption using hydro. You have pumps, airstones, chillers, etc. All these things aren't necessary in living soil. I personally enjoy mixing different dry ammendments to get a desired effect. Living soil just needs water without adjustment. It's simple and less work and requires less power.
@@camz1039 I thought like you until I gave Kratky hydro a try and it grew three times faster than my soil grows had on their best day. They like to sex in three weeks flat now... the extra watts are next to nothing if you do it right: I have one 8w two outlet air pump, one out to each tank to a four dollar air hose/diffuser in each. Ended up, for me, being way cheaper than the cost of soil/amendments
The simple dwc buckets I've seen use 3-5 wat airpumps per bucket. Efficiency is awesome, but gets more complicated when there's 30% faster Veg growth. How much power would finishing faster save?
My Kratky bucket allows you to change nutrients anytime and auto fills to keep water level stable
Yessssss I’ve been thinking about getting into DWC
Dude thank you for this show!! even just the intro answered alot of my questions about hydro. been growing for years in soil. just about to start hydro. just got a new kit!!
Come on Chris - give it a shot! If for nothing else it would make for a good seed to harvest video. If I can do it, you can for sure. I never used a chiller. if keep your buckets on the cement in your basement and that will help keep temps down or frozen bottles of tap water have worked for me and others in a pinch. Just make sure you have a good air pump and stone.... also one last tip don't use a bucket but use a tote. You can get away with not changing the reservoir as often figure you can double, or triple the amount of solution that the roots are suspended in.
It’s easy man ! You got this !
I use Lowes or Home Depot bucket and every 2 weeks or whenever it’s time to swap out the water I just mix my nutrients in another clean bucket and just take the cover off with the plant and just put it on the bucket with fresh nutrients. That’s how I grow my cucumbers 🥒 😂
Sure do love some frosty cuc's 😂
Thank you so much man! I'm transitioning from an innert soilless medium to a DWC my next run and this reinforced my conviction of this
We made a homemade chiller. Recirculates through cold metal pipes on the cold basement floor. Works well and keeps water temp down a few degrees
You can buy a peltier chiller on ebay or aliexpress really cheap
Old dehumidifier works good.
Better than a chiller imo
Awesome episode and great guest! Keep up the amazing content!
He's talking about dechlorinator solution (& heavy metal neutralizer) at 28:50. Something to consider if your using tap - chloramines do not off gas*
I have had good results with API pond, and have been told Microbe Life and some resin products work as well.
Great Video!
With Kratky's Method, it will work. The roots drink, so you have to pay attention to the schedule. When approaching flower, you simply introduce those nutrients.
Microbes are a must with every water refill. Feeding with this will take some experience for your environment. If you want to feed every watering for consistency, use 1/4 the recommended dosage.
If you rather feed every other watering or every 4th watering, that's on you. Gaining experience through experimentation is more valuable than you'll ever know.
Pay attention to the plants. If they need less or more, apply accordingly.
As for the taste of a product grown organically in the ground and in hydroponics... There was a video of a gardener submitting cucumbers grown in the ground and in hydroponics for examination. It turned out that there are three times more nitrates in cucumbers grown in the ground.
I have been thinking of home making a DWC bucket and have had an idea for nutrient testing. I am going to find a bucket with a tap near the base, like a brewers bucket but hopefully a little shorter as they can be pretty tall and lose a lot on plant height at a result. The great thing then is you can run off a little solution to test whenever you like and if you discover something really amiss, dump the whole lot out without having to move the bucket
Great vid Chris, I like the fact that you bring different growers and share their point of views and we always learning from you and them as well. Keep up the great work bro.
i'm not sure but @21:40 i feel like this guy just wants to make more money from everyone, 1. you can just tilt the lid enough to get a hose in there and extract the water from the bucket with a cheap ebay pump, then refill it with new water the same way you extracted the water. .2 if tilting the lid is a concern you could just drill an extra hole in the lid for a hose witch is going to do the same thing without disturbing the plant and have some reflective tape or something to cover the extra hole, i don't know i'm very new to DWC but it would make sense to do what i just said above rather then spending an extra $200 - $300 on a pointless access fetcher
There's no going back, RDWC City livin
Those buckets are awesome!! I definitely want to try em out
Awesome video thank you so much I just bought 4 hydro buckets
Would love some more info on dry nutrients for RDWC. As someone new to hydro this is probably the most frustrating part for me because of the plethora of brands available. It would be great if you could do a thorough break down of what makes a nutrient line better or worse for RDWC specifically. With some examples would be great too.
Thanks so much for all the good info! And keep it up.
Jacks nutrients are my favorite. Check them out 👍🏽 I use the RO nutes
@@gavinortiz3041 had any issues with it , at all and what's your average temp & humidity?
I would love for you to have him on again!
AWESOME I’m sooo glad you did the episode.
The common mistakes for hydro with no medium is feeding you get ph spikes and ec spikes as the plant takes on more water than nutrients so as the resovoir level goes down the nutrients level spikes and you have to adjust for this process
he is very correct hydro organics is ALMOST there, you can do synganic. where you use some beneficial bacteria to help. as well as kelp, The issue really for organic grows in hydroponics comes down to is it is hard to make organic dissolvable phosphorus. We can get the N and K pretty easy its the P thats hard.
When I first started growing indoor herbs and leafy greens I thought RDWC was the answer. I quickly learned that all buckets are subject to the same nutrient solution so there is added risk that a mistake can affect all of the plants in the network in addition to the fact that you cannot customize the nutrient needs of any plant over the others. I also found that pump volume combined with well developed root systems created issues with the free flow of solution in the circuit and I had an overflow in the first buckets a number of times. If you are going with RDWC my suggestion is to use the largest fittings and pipe that you can between the buckets. I love the DWC method but have all of my buckets as stand alone growing environments.
Exactly roots clog up small diameter pipes. I use 3" in my rdwc system.
The advantage of RDWC is the movement of water, which prevents stagnation and root rot (but does not eliminate it if the water temperature is above 21 C degrees). RDWC is easier to use and maintain through one main tank than DWC, where each tank is separate if you have 4 or more plants. We can measure PH, TDS, temperature and many other indicators (ORP, Dissolved Oxygen) in one main tank for several plants at once, and not climb into each bucket, as with DWC. The same thing is with the change of the solution. Also, in RDWC it is easier to maintain a low temperature of the solution (up to 21 C degrees), which is very important (perfect when 18-19 C). You can cool the water with a сhiller or simply put ice bottles in the main external tank. DWC only makes sense if you have one plant. He promotes the DWC so much because he just sells these buckets at crazy prices.
Give them all their own return lines 3/4 flexible works. Lay it on the floor. Mount fittings as low as possible.
@leeadickes7235 it was 3/4 that caused my issues. If i were ever to do it again, i would go at least 3 inch lines.
It is meant for single variety growing. Also it's just easier to have even canopy with the same variety.
Awesome!!! Great episode
Great video I'm not a hydroponics guy but like to learn as much as I can about every avenue of growing cannabis and definitely leaned alot hear ty!! 💪💪
Your the man Chris!! Love your channels!!
Fantastic episode Chris! Mitch made every doubt I had just melt away. My problem was temperature too, thought I'd need a chiller but now know to plan better and work around 'seasons' indoors. Thanks boys, much appreciated
Yes finally, thank you Chris! I’m always hearing over watering under watering, I’m thinking no I’m growing in water, that’s not a thing for me haha
And no pH lockouts otherwise it's a simple fix adjust the pH problem solved
Great info guys! I have been doing a basic dwc grow for about a year now. I use blue planet 3 part nutrients. I don't use a chiller and I haven't seen any problem's yet. The nutrient solution normally sits between 70-75 in the bucket. Also I only change resivoir every 2 weeks. I use half ro and half tap water. My last plant in the bucket was a bubba Kush and it got to be 6ft y'all before I super cropped it.
Half RO half tap is the ticket
One thing that helped me with ph in hydroponics is to not add ph down straight to your nutrient solution. Mix the ph down in with a shot glass of water then add that mixture to your system to your desired level.
Great episode !
DWC In my opinion is way easier to learn for the new grower . I’ll have to try one of their buckets . By the time you buy a bucket a stone and air pump for a few more bucks your ready to go . The secondary res so you can check ph and EC is nice .
Thanks guys, goodnight
I used tap water and aquarium tap water conditioner and worked like a charm
I was thinking the same thing since I own fish lol
I have a hydro bucket and love it.
Nice man keep up the good work 🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥🤙🏻
Another great episode, Ive grown just about every way in hydro , but not dwc, I’ll give it a go next winter, thanks chris
Great episode. These shows are really great. I might not use everything I learn but I'm learning A LOT!
From experience dwc is the same as any other hydroponic grow as far as growing itself, you still need to do a mix and feed the plants only difference is that in dwc you have the bucket being your reservoir as well canceling out the time you’d spend doing mixes daily or every other day! As far as quality depends on how well and balanced you do your mixes and as far as yield it comes down to your skills as a grower with the plant work you do during veg/ early bloom. Just do it!
DWC IS AWESOME 👌
Thank you for the DWC/RDWC episode. There isn't a lot of good content for this hydro direction.i would love to see more DWC centric knowledge
I’ll tell u everything u need to know
The beautiful thing about water you don't have to run home and water your plants as long as they have water they are good
Thanks for this podcast, was debating a DWC setup and this was extremely helpful in my decision making
Been waiting on this!! Good stuff here!
On my second DWC grow really flexed on em with the first got a chilled tech 5x5 light on the way💯
Very interesting way to adapt to the issue of lifting the plant. Will have to order a few and test it out compared to rdwc, personally I like the stability that comes with a larger amount of water in your system but I can see where this container could be useful
Funny thing is, having a larger volume of water moving through a system full of dynamics it’s actually much less stable
My suggestion would be to simply drill a hole through the top of your netpot. Plug the hole with a neoprene collar.
Remove the neoprene to put in hose to pump in/out nuttient solution. Ph adjust and top off using the same hole.
Thats way cheaper than buying his system.
Yasss!! New episode!! Cant wait to get started!! 😎💪💚
God bless you, your work is inspirational 🍀♥️
I just got my first DWC buckets, so I'm trying to prepair for a sucessful grow. I have been growing synganic for several years in 1 and 5 gallon peat based soil mixes with salt nutes. I have been having ups and downs with my cloner, which is a practice for full DWC. It seems like if I ignore the cloner, it does great 😅😅
Krakty is only limited to certain plants, like leafy greens? Hmm.. I'll be sure to let my 4th tomato, pepper, green bean, cucumber, squash, and my 2nd watermelon harvest this summer know that they aren't supposed to grow. :) Maybe I'm doing it wrong? But I have grown many different types of krakty style growing plants. Also, they stay outside in the hot idaho sun and I don't have root issues. Unfortunately the worst thing that happens is it gets too hot for the tomatoes, but that's soil or hydro. Unfortunately, I haven't grown medical plants this way, again, Idaho. Cheers
Not my method, but a great guest and discussion none the less, thanks Chris! Have a great time in Vegas 😎💨
Organic or salt synthetic does not change the flavor ,it all comes down to,did you destroy the roots with extreme level of nutrients through 90 percent of the plants life cycle . It all comes down to how many percent roots do you have left at the last week . Most cases less than 30 percent of good roots is left over. If you have a 3 foot plant with a root zone of 30 percent left because of high nutrient levels .
This is why you get good smoke or harsh smoke
Technically looking at it ,a 30 percent root system isn’t gonna flush the plant
If your going to do a DWC make sure you have a chiller. Yes!!!! It's about $300 to $600 that's a ton to come off but it will more than pay for itself
Nah
Regular use of pool shock is your friend
The way I get out of lifting the bucket lid is to drill a 2" hole for access. I have a beer thief and a small cup. I plug the hole when not in use.
Wow, such an informative episode. I’ve been following your videos for a while now and this is an amazing episode for jumping into hydro learning about all the attributes of hydroponics. He could be a great hydroponics teacher
Great content... I'm making a RDWC with the hydro Buckets as I'm listening and watching this video