I've finally found the holy grail of air rifle pellets! and some fake jsb...
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- Accuracy testing some comically bad budget air rifle pellets and some dodgy knock off jsb heavies against the real thing. A review of some air rifle pellets that claim to be the holy grail..
i think they are rebranded jsb jumbo, they arent bad, but im pretty sure they aren't the holy grail...
i will be testing various qys, jsb, fx, Air arms diablo field, bisley magnums and accupells eventually
Every individual rifle has it's own holy grail and perfect pellet for it's particular barrel and set up.
They should make Pellets for England that have small umbrellas on them...
🤣😂 this is true Jan, however this year is hasn't rained very much atall, which is unusual
Funny 🤣🤣🤣
You'll be VERY surprised how valuable testing these " cheaper " pellets is to the general ( shooting ) public , especially in the current climate where people are tightening there belts so to speak , a cheaper alternative ( if found AND at the right price ) would almost certainly be bulk bought due to the rumours ( and they are rumours ) about an impending lead ban .. the Holy Grail , not TOO bad , and around £3 a tin cheaper then ( say ) the QYS , what would you do ? Plinnking , yes , hunting probably not ... your vid was extremely valuable and entertaining .. loved it
Hi Mark, that's exactly where this little series is leading. Ultimately I'll end up collating some fairly involved testing of the vast majority of brands and pull them into some categories of price over accuracy. There's some brands at much more affordable price points that will surprise even the top brands.
It's funny how the unsponsored vids seem to differ with the sponsored ones too eh 😆
Cheers
For watching 😉
@@tillysgunstocks
I bought a tin ( plastic dispenser ) of Russian pellets about a year ago , they were AWFUL even more AWFUL then the worst you tested , not only in one rifle , but several ( just too see if they'd work in a different barrel ) can't put brand up on here , as its all strange weird kinda letters ..
I Ran a test on the old AGF on the Spot On Hawks, Very mixed results but All were what I call Unacceptable
I tried purely out of curiosity as Identical in appearance to Heavies & supposedly 10.34grn too
All were only tested at 25m Indoor Range
Daystate Wolverine R -- A couple of groups around 15-20mm
AA S400 Superlite -- A couple of groups around 15-25mm
Zbroia Kozak ---Well I expected reasonable groups from these as seems very good on Heavies --- a Couple of groups of around 50+mm !! Plus did not cycle very well through the magazines & kept jamming up
Went back to the Usual diets of H&N baracuda Lights & JSB Heavies and put in 2 BR cards of 249 & 250 !!!
I think weighing & sorting would help a bit as I noticed very large differences in head size & shape, with some having virtually no pronounced ridge around the head
But in honesty even though they are cheap do you really want to waste hours on sorting, weighing, sizing & lubing
They may suit some other barrels but would still need a lot of visual inspection to each pellet & then just use for Tin cans & other sizeable targets at short ranges
Having very recentlyu returned to airgun shooting I generally use the JSB and Hades but bought the Spitfires for general shooting and with the latest i've purchased have had amazing accuracy, the occasional fliers but for about half the price of the JSB I can live with that. Great videos by the way.
The H&N Field Target Trophy are superb in my MK1 HW100, Accupel in my Alecto and i'm hoping for good results with the .22 H&N FTT in my spanking new HW100 BPK.
I use the fx .22 16g, qys, 1.77 6.56, jsb 1.77 10.34., bisly mags 1.77 8g not bad, tried allsorts these are my go to.
back in the old days when i used to shoot 177 my favorite target pellet was the original daisy wadcutters which were nothing like the junk daisy sells today, if memory serves me correct the old wadcutters were made in italy and they were great pellets......
snowpeak is getting better with pellets , not as good as jsb yet , but for ratting up to 50 meters usable norma has good pellets , and a brand from argentina boss sold under the name diana to , are also usable, but it as always depends on the gun used,
I use the QYS pellets. They are pretty good.
Often the clue as to who made a pellet is in the tin. If it has a screw lid, most likely H&N. Not necessarily the same pellet though as an H&N though. More likely made under contract using a die supplied by the requestor. This is how AA pellets are made by JSB. AA supply the dies, JSB manufacture under contract to AA's specifications.
Great video and very interesting, keep em coming! Mike Woody Watkins
Hopefully start a big stock build on the channel the next week or 2 mate 🥳🥳
My old BSA Lightening loved Hobby ...WH..loved accupell.
The Authentic Apaches look like they work, in grey too!
Sorry Apparels
You know what is an eye opener...
Get the grain scales out.
Accupel are very consistant in weight out of the tin and even better if ran thru an ultrasonic cleaner.
JSB Exact... The last batch I got... I washed and weighed 12 tins and managed to get 425 pellets that weighed 8.4x grains.
I dont buy JSBs any more. I ended up plinking with them.
How about the old timers fave... RWS Superdome and for 25yrds RWS Hobby?
Air arms 18 grain in 22 caliber. They should lights out in my Avenger -x. Be hard for me to see a pellet do any better.
60 yards they fly tremendous.
Really interesting, thanks so much for you time 👍
You may wish to try some flat-shooting .177cal. JSB SIMPLY Airgun Pellets, 8.2grain, and see what you get in comparison. It's my fave as it shoots well in most all airguns from a weak Diana Mod. 25 to a powerful FWB Mod. 124 springers. The SIMPLY ought to shine in a PCP.
Excellent Tommy.
To be honest I use the spot on .22 knock offs for plinking and working with disabled groups. At higher speeds I can get a 15mm group at 35/40mtr.
Considering they cost a quarter of the price of jsb I find they give me a benchmark plus I can afford to give more people a chance to try shooting.
Anyone showing promise gets to try the jsb.
Again, excellent and well worth watching.👍
Hi mate, I cant find these hawks for sale anymore in .177. Maybe they have pulled them?
The range they do now looks to be pretty decent and some slugs.
I might get a fresh tin of the spitfires, that aren't all bashed up as I reckon if you had some tidy ones they will group surprisingly well.
The rws pellets are always a pretty safe bet and can still be picked up for sensible money.
Thanks for watching 😀
The Webley hustler looks alarmingly like the David Nickerson MagnumDome My BSA Meteor hates the hell out of them
I’ve waisted my time and money on these pellets and from experience in around 10 air rifles that jsb,accupells,and air arms Diablos are all extremely good and I wouldn’t touch any I hunter pellets they are pure crap
They aren't proving too great mate that's for sure. I want to get a huge target out at 55yds with the patriots for a laugh 😆
Get your hands on the Snowpeak pellets ( from Krale). Unbelievably ugly but “ don’t judge a book by it’s cover”!
Funnily enough they are on the list of pellets to test down the line. As I'm getting more confident with the filming I've plans for some more elaborate testing 😀
Love my Airmaks Katran.
Thanks 😊 for sharing
I really love mine, its probably the best gun to hit the market In the last 5 years imo
@@tillysgunstocks Here in US I got one of the first ones upon release. Of course the cf bottles xb hp 🙄 high power 700mm barrel in 5.5 22 cal. My only complaint is the magazines will not hold 34 gr. pellets but the 25 gr pellets at factory setting outa the box go 1025fps very very accurate out to 100 yards. I used it the other day in a competition with world class RMAC champions on the line with me at 100 yards.. Almost scored 200 in a wind the first time ever I shot past 30 yards. Also popped 10 squirrels in a row with it in about 90 minutes. The trigger is awesome.
I'm waiting for the Airmaks KRAIT in high-power 700mm. The 2 smaller KRAITS are here at the dealers 400 and 520mm
It also loves the 26gr Patriot Javelins in .218.
Anyway Cheers from sunny Florida 🌞 ☀️ 😎
I also have 7 other rifles that cost more and almost always take the Katran hunting 1st
@@stedyone1090 that's awesome going. Mines sub12 .177 🤣
I've got to say it's the single most consistent out the box rifle I've ever had. I put up a chrono string on my fb page last week. A dozen shots with a max deviation of 3.8fps! That was unweighed unsorted jsb heavies. It'd potentially tighten up with some pellet prep too. I'm sure it'd do a full fill approx 80 shots (from 250 bar) within 7fps. Thats mental for an untouched factory spec rifle. Doubt my 9015 would do that.well it might but its heavily modified from factory.
Cheers for watching too. Not jealous atall of your big powers and nice weather 😆
@@tillysgunstocks In July we only had 1 day below 90 degrees Fahrenheit or below 33 celcius . We're in Central Florida 😎 on the Atlantic by Port Canaveral and NASA
It's been super hot here lately, we've had it over 40°c which is a bit insane for the uk. The workshop was unbearable..
Let me know how you get on with the krait, I'm probably going to get one myself and a few lads are already asking if the katran butt hooks will fit them, ive not even seen one in the flesh yet
My Hatsan at44 likes JSB 13.4 grain, shots under a half inch at 50 yards.
Try Bisley LRG.
I use nothing else in . 22 and .177. Springer or PCP.
Every pellet or slug I’ve had from i hunter have been gash, tried the spitfires last weekend and was surprised, ragged one hole group at 30m one flier out of 10. For the price I can deal with that. Like you said the skirts look junk, can only they sort themselves out with a blast of air behind them..
The I hunter branded pellets I've had havnt been great tbh. But I've ordered a fair bit from them of known brands and the actual service from them has been 👍
@@tillysgunstocks got no complaints about the service should no better with pellets that look like JSB 10.34 but less than half price and expecting same performance….
In the US you can get Crossman piranha 10.5 s at Walmart for $7.00 for 400.
Are they any good dave?
I cant recall seeing them in the uk
Hey man, I just subbed. Looks like a cool channel. I’ve been shooting the pointy Excites and having really good results in old rebuilt Crosman break barrels.
I’ll try some of those JSB’s.
East Coast U. S. A.
Thanks for the sub 😉 the channel is only really just getting started whilst I learn to film and edit but I've a lot of cool stuff to come. There's a few American guys on here already, it's great to have you all on here 👍
Is there a gun shop that would sell most of these pellets, really interesting video.
Good video, well done and informative. Only just found your channel and instantly subscribed. I'm a hunter and have always used AA diabolo fields 177 through a sub 12ft s510 and a sub 12ft very first edition s410 using Bisley magnums again in 177.I was wondering if you think the JSB heavy would prove to be superior in either of these set ups?.
Thanks for a nice honest approach to your videos I was getting a little bored with the more popular biased product pushing channel that most people seem to think is the only one worth watching😉.
Good luck with it all.
Regards Jeff.
Hi Jeff, I'd be Inclined to stick with the 8.4gn AA fields /jsb exacts if you are getting the performance that you need. The jsb heavies are often a good bet in a lot of the modern carbines but the longer barreled stuff tends to like the mid weight pellets(a bit of an assumption,mind)
Thanks for subscribing 😀
@@tillysgunstocks cheers may give em a go as both rifles are carbines.thanks for the prompt reply😉👍
Thanks.
Thanks for watching me waffling on 😀
Interesting some of those pellets I never seen before
I dont think that is a bad thing considering how bad some of them are 😆
Nice one - unlike some YTers, I actually believe your groups! Funny though, that Patriot group looks the same as the Exact Heavies from by FX Crown - it is not a fan! Good to see some budget pellets, but the RWS/H&Ns are pretty good value cp JSB/QYS/AA etc.
James I'm no youtuber, I just happen to work on them every day and have a Yt channel..
Hopefully we can all learn some new stuff going forward and get something of a community going that is open and honest.
@@tillysgunstocks Nice one! Good to see someone trying to get to the bottom of airgun oddities and doing some proper testing. Best of luck with the channel and business.
It's about consistent quality. Cheap wobbly skirts, deformed heads, damaged, are all going to have an affect on accuracy. Chuck the deformitys away because you wouldn't chuck an arrow or a spear with a bent shaft would you ?? 😂😂😂😂
Try a tin of crosman premier heavy I've heard acupell re label them
It's just as easy to make things well, rather than badly, given the machinery that is available nowadays. It's about time that quality pellets were made in Britain, as opposed to importing them from Germany and the Czech Republic. The import costs are now becoming unacceptable!! 🤔
Interesting test. Thanks. As you say in your conclusion, there's a reason cheap pellets are cheap. Little (or no) quality control, poor design and finish, etc. If they're, say, a fiver a tin less than JSBs, that's a saving of 1p per pellet. So a typical day shooting with them saves £1, maybe a little more. Plus you probably have to deep clean your barrel when you get home. Just not worth it, is it?
Looks like prime Ratting territory Tom 😉
Im Working out how to film off my yukon, as the nights draw in itl be fun..
Yo, what’s your rifle today ?
Hiya bud another good video I'm slowly working my way through your videos by any chance do you do anything with 22 and 25 in sub 12 I'm finding it hard to find any decent 25 pellet testing
Hi mate, most of my own shooting is exclusively .177
However early next year (hopefully) I've got some cool toys on the way and will have.177 .22 and .25 barrels to play around with 😉
@@tillysgunstocks ooh intriguing I'll keep an eye open for your videos I was having a catch up the last few nights, have you got an instagram or Facebook page/group showing your work?
Yes mate stick the channel name in fb. You'll see a bit of what I do 😉
@@tillysgunstocks aarh cool I'll have a look pal
I got the squeel like the spitfire from cheap marksman pellets. Made me concerned they were hard lead and scoring the barred so only use the for plinking in my springer.
Yeah them old webleys were horrific to shoot 😆
They won't be causing any major damage but the shot cycle and fouling in the barrel is a bit much to deal with
Hi have you tried the crossman pellets were doing well in my daystate air ranger 177 with the jsb 10.34 and the 8.44 nearly doing the same grouping
Hi George , I've not tried the more recent versions of the crossman pellets. I'm waiting on some fresh batches to arrive as I've heard very mixed reports. But it will be great to compile a list of the most common and judge them on price against consistency and ultimately accuracy
I've been using crosman premier magnums I'm getting on with them the same as jsb heavy but they need a good wash and a lube
What scope on gun please I have just brought the krait compact and looking for a scope for it
That's an optisan cp. It's a lovely compact scope,suits me really well😉
try Gamo Pro Hunter i get pellet on pellet
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Some of them pellets are pretty scary eh.. 😆
Hi have you tried the Rws super field ultra heavy pellets
I've shot the standard super fields for years for mid and short range work they have always been great. But not the super heavy versions. What do they weigh? Are they aimed at the fac market?
@@tillysgunstocks there around 10grain I’ve only used them sub 12 but are very good at 25 meters
RWS heavy 9.7 gr superdome. The 8.3's do great in all my 177 guns. Winchester hollow point cheap, good to 20 yds, expands to .22 size at 1024 fps, 18.3 fpe with my Beeman Mantis 10616 break barrel 177.
Rifle, power, distance. Gas, air, etc.
Your post is full of utter rubbish.
They all suck!
Rubbish
You talk to much . Get on with it .
Talk too much!
Air rifle pellets are not moulded they are swaged.
Some cheap ones are.