DreamWorks has stepped up its game and problably thought "Well, we can do better than Disney in the live action trend too". However, though I believe they will put more effort into the script, the main issue remains: these movies were animated for good reasons. They work in that media, not as live actions.
As much as I hate Dreamworks doing a live action remake, I do believe they will handle it better. For one, the original directors are in charge of it, and two, there was a play made for HTTYD, so there is a chance. My argument does fail in the latter as I have not watched it and dont know if its good or not, but I want to have hope that it could be good or at least ok and not downwrite horrendous.
@@exoticraptor9436 I saw the httyd stage performance, albeit when I was 5-6 years old. I do remember brief flashes of it and the adults I went with all said it was amazing. I wish I remembered more of it. Imo they should bring back the live spectacular instead of remaking the movies in live action. I have SOME hope since the original directors are in on the movie, but I really don't think it'll be very good
as much as i love the movie, httyd does not have much in common with the books, if the remake was a telling of the book instead just a retelling of the first movie that would be great
There is a noticeable difference between when a movie is made for the sake of inspiring audiences with fresh, original ideas, and when a movie is made for the sole purpose of profit, no matter if it disrespect the original material.
At this rate I don't even understand why they keep doing this when even their long time audiences are getting sick of it. Little Mermaid has been dropping like a stone. At some point they must realize this strategy is no longer going to be profitable.
@@barbiquearea only when people stop being so blinded by nostalgia, only when Disney's revenue is hurt. By then and only then, they will understand that they can't trick people to buy their shit every year.
I'm also tired of traditional animators not stepping up, and making new content for cinemas, and television as an alternative to the crap that the big media conglomerates churn out. Almost as if they fell they couldn't compete with CG, or live action, or they would be shamed out of business for not 'conforming' with what they think the public wants. (It's like of certain game developers didn't bother to put out classic looking 2D games in A market that's got way too much 'Tripple A' 3D games to fill A void left by companies that took pride in making 2D games.) All animation veterans, and anyone who makes 2D animation for UA-cam, or Newgrounds need to step up, and fill A void left by the big media conglomerates if we ever want to see traditional animation survive.
@@Launchpad05 That won't happen until they're paid enough, that's why there's a huge writers strike going on in Hollywood currently, they're being mistreated and underpaid.
When I heard Dreamworks was making their own live action, I felt like Obi Wan Kenobi: “You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy Disney, not Join them!”
@@RedRoseSeptember22 Then our only hope for 2D animation's survival are the outsiders who aren't working in 'the system', and I already have doubts about that.
As a How to Train your Dragon fan I am upset that it is being remade and am not excited about it. I don’t even wanna think about how Toothless will look.
what i loved most about httyd was how they made their characters look. they are big, burly, missing teeth, big noses, freckles, missing limbs, the teens are lanky and akward looking. and so on. all these imperfections really added to the world of httyd. and thats something i feel only animation can really pull off. i already hate the actors they chose. because they look to "holywood perfect"
I don’t know who they cast for most of the characters except for hiccup and Astrid and hiccup casting is not to shabby but astrid, seriously guys comm on, can we get at least one movie without race swapping a character these days
If you want these guys to stop making live action movies, just don't watch it. At this point we should be boycotting all of their live action releases to send them a message, that the majority of us don't want them anymore and they shouldn't be getting away with making half-baked sloppy seconds.
Tell that to lazy parents who let their kids be raised by a tablet and they keep getting advertisement for these movies, therefore annoying the shit out of the parents until they get to watch it on the theater
Unfortunately big part of people just don't care about how these live actions are just lazily made for profit and watch it anyway cause "it's the adult version of it cause animation is for kids"
Dreamworks did one of the BEST pieces of representation and immersion I've ever seen in the original HTTYD film. You want to know what it was? They had an Icelandic singer Jónsi sing the credit song Sticks & stones in Icelandic in the second half of the song. Now, Name a single scandanavian actor/actress. Bet you can't. Where is their representation? When does mutilculturalism work and not work, is what the producers should've asked themselves. They should've had a scandinavian cast. That would've increased the immersion and world building. But by having multiculturalism in this specific scenario, you lose the immersion of the film. It's the same as having white people in Asian period dramas as casting. It's the same as casting white people in the ATLA live action years ago when they were in a very Asian setting. It ruined the immersion and world-building. Can all us HTTYD fans just agree to not watch this in cinemas? I'm sick of studios sucking the life and magic out of incredible animations by using realism. Sick of them shitting on the face of animators.
If I watch it, it will probably be through pirating. I don't want live action remakes to get my money lol. Usually I don't care a lot about race swapping, like with Ariel I just found it a shame she didn't look like the original redhead but like eh, okay. It's a mermaid and she was still great! But with Astrid.. that actress looks nothing like her, and I was hoping so much for scandinavic casting as a scandinavian myself.
@@dove2826 Absolutely. I want to see the shitshow but I refuse to give them any money for it. Really is a shame too, because irrc the original got a bit of shit for giving the Vikings Scottish accents (and not even consistently), when they aren't Scottish? So this could have been a great opportunity to course-correct and actually do some research and be more accurate the real culture, because even though they were predominantly white, it IS still a culture, but that's too much to ask I guess.
@@sarcasticat6979 I was more weirded out by the adult having accents but every single kid having an American accent. Honestly, at the end of the day, the whole back-and-forth about diversity is never an actual big deal in the movie. A shitty script is a shitty script regardless of the visuals and casting.
HMM well how about making the book versions of the some of the movies they did??? Some of the movies are based on books and books are darker if they do it would be for adults
Instead of doing Live-Action Remake of theirs popular highly acclimated 3D animated films, they should instead try doing Live-Action Remake of theirs underrated 2D animated movies from the early/late 2000s. The Road to El Dorado, The Prince of Egypt, Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas, those 2D DreamWorks movies from the 2000s.
Yeah I don’t want a remake period. Especially one of HTTYD. The cgi dragons are gonna look horrifying and one of the best parts of the movies is how animated the characters are, how incredible and magical the world building is despite the realistic backgrounds; it makes the world seem bigger. If they wanna remake something they should do their more underrated pieces: Road to El Dorado or Sinbad. This feels like they’re trying to outshine Disney and have a d measuring contest with them. A competition no one wants. When will companies realise that original ideas are what’s valued. This may come off as spiteful but I really hope this flops to the point that no one remembers this
I think Dreamworks is more likely to pull off a live action remake significantly better than Disney, but my question is why do they need to? Just reboot HTTYD with a new cast of characters that takes place a couple generations later... not like the latest TV show did though. I think they could do it as a live action movie as well, but I think it would be better to use their current animation style for it.
@@geministrial950 The idea of later generations rediscovering the dragons is good IMO the execution of that show was very bad though. I'd also set it a couple generations later not around our time or in the future.
@@dns0095 I still trust them more than Disney in this regard. At least they haven't nuked this dead horse yet like Disney has. I'd still prefer new and original content both live action and animated though. Honestly even though Dreamworks is one of the better studios in Hollywood right now I'm finding myself significantly more drawn towards Anime and Chinese Donghua right now. Heck with Disney going through their anti Renaissance with this endless line of live action remakes it's actually pretty cool that Chinese animation is going through it's own Renaissance. I don't agree with what their government at all, but damn if they aren't creatively outdoing Hollywood right now. Heck instead of watching the Little Mermaid remake I'd recommend looking into a movie called Deep Sea which will probably be making the rounds in theaters or on streaming later this summer or in the fall.
I have always loved HTTYD movies and the entire franchise (except for those modern series) and I am so worried about how this is gonna look in love action. The charm of dragons lies in their expressions, in Toothless’ funny cute face and how the dragons are so similar to their Vikings. Making them live action either means creating grotesque creepy monsters which is not really suited for children’s movie or designing something like live action Pinocchio which we all know how it went visually. HTTYD has unique design for characters and backgrounds realistic enough to not need to be remade. Besides the animation of these movies is just gorgeous for 2010/2014/2019 and I see no need to take away all the magic it has as is.
I'm convinced animation is never going to be respected as a media since people can so easily forget the original art piece when someone announces they'll make the "real life" (that is, boring, cold and "mature") version of that art. Creative stories work with visual arts because visual arts are supposed to rely on reality for it's ground, not it's core. The dystopian future where we don't contemplate art for what it is, is already happening.
And they race-swapped Astrid, blonde Scandinavian Viking girl. The Vikings weren’t multiracial. Only white people were Vikings, so the casting should reflect that.
That’s exactly what I criticise too. Like don’t swap races if it doesn’t make sense. I hate it when they just change the original character designs so drastically, it’s like another person all of sudden (that’s not just about race, also things like haircolors & stuff). Like just make a new original movie with new original characters and nobody’s mad at you
And like how will that work with Light-Fury??? It obvious that Toothless is Hiccup. So Toothless needs a Dragon Astrid so they made Light-Fury. Are they going to make her Shadow-Fury in the LA movie???
It's a Game of Thrones verses a Rings Of Power thing. Hollywood seems allergic to the idea that people are in certain parts of the world and that the gender/race/sexuality of a character might be different than what it is in 2023?
I’m gonna give Dreamworks the benefit of the doubt. Dreamwork’s entire existence is to spite Disney and to go against the shit they’ve done. Maybe Dreamworks would have a list of what Disney does wrong and try to do the remake justice. Expectations aren’t high, but they aren’t dead low
@@RedRoseSeptember22 It does not even make sense here (not that it ever did before but this one is exceptional) because Vikings are typically made up of Norse and Scandinavian people who are by culture and genetics white!! So race-swapping a viking as a black person is actually cultural appropriation and culturally insensitive. So much for typical Hollywood representation 🙄
The real shame is, the HTTYD live theatre shows were wonderful! The puppets and actors were having great fun. It's so silly Universal doesn't promote those more.
From what I've heard, the reason they're doing this is actually because Dreamworks will be in charge of producing a Legend of Zelda movie franchise (remember that both Dreamworks and Illumination are owned by Universal), and they still wanted to explore the How to Train Your Dragon franchise, but didn't want it to compete with Zelda seeing how they're both family friendly high fantasy adventure franchises. Even if this turns out to be garbage (which it probably will be judging solely for the fact that they ALREADY race-swapped Astrid, even though Black people weren't Vikings), if it means Dreamworks's A team will be spearheading a Zelda franchise alongside Nintendo, it's a sacrifice I'm more than willing to accept
@@lysander3459 You'd be surprised. specially with how well the Mario movie performed, a Zelda movie has a lot more potential than anything else they might wanna dow with httyd. (And I say this as a fan of the films, that story is pretty much over, if what they want is to make a cash-grab remake that will be forgotten the moment it leaves cinemas, and that allows in the actual Talent at Dreamworks to make a great adaptation under Nintendo's supervision, then it's a net positive).
@RedRoseSeptember22 It is because Sinbad and The Legend of the Seven Seas is an underrated movie. By having an underrated animated movie being given the live action remake treatment would bring in the fans who enjoyed the original and those that didn't know it existed.
I have Viking blood from my grandads side of the family that makes me a Viking king descendent since the king was called Robert then his son Robertson I think it was and as I know it we’re mostly white with welsh blood in there too, reason it worked so well with how to train your dragon was they followed the law and what race vikings actually are which hair colours they can come in especially if it’s blond, brown and so on, with the casting with the live action version I was skeptical because of 2 reasons, hiccup needs to have straight hair but a dark colour but his actor doesn’t have that and with Astrid her hair is straight and blonde but her actor is not blonde and is a different skin colour which doesn’t sit right with me, in real life lore there was not alot of black vikings just a few meaning the Viking king mainly only went after the white ones mostly, take my family for example they are all white and it goes by tradition which is why they don’t mix with black people too much so they can retain that colour in the family as the dominant colour.
Universal, no, bad studio, bad First the complete disaster that the 9 realms was, now this. It's like they're trying to milk every penny that they can out of the original franchise
A live-action Shrek movie making jokes about the live-action Disney movies will probably be made. With jokes about the realistic CGI of Donkey (a joke about the 2019 The Lion King remake) and jokes about Black Fiona (2023 The Little Mermaid remake) and the villain being a bad rat to parody Mickey Mouse.
Are they gonna do the dragons with cgi animation or something? Because like?? Whats the point in adapting 3d animation into what is essentially more realistically rendered 3d animation with more limits Also im disagreeing with the casting because imo the guy looks more like spiderman than hiccup.. he isnt giving lanky little viking to me. like maybe we could pull out Scandinavian actors out instead of american ones if we’re trying to be realistic about it
The best way for this type of films to end is not going to see them. If you don't want them to make more don't buy a ticket for it. Companies will go where the money is, If this remake is a flop they won't risk to make more. Speak with your wallet!
I agree. I also find many of the live action remakes annoying. I mean, come on. There is so much more that can be done with animation (e.g., creating scenes involving fire with a much lower risk of a serious accident occurring). In fact, one the few times I can remember a live action remake being better than an animated movie is when Peter Jackson decided to create his adaptation of The Lord of the Rings triology. The reason for this is because, having seen both the animated movie from 1978 and the live action triology from 2001- 2003, it is obvious that there was a significant amount of passion behind every detail, from the battle scenes to the way in which the CG elements are carefully blended into the triology to really make the world of Middle Earth come to life on screen. As for How to train your Dragon, I think that the main franchise is perfect just the way it is; Jay Baruchel, America Ferrera, and all the other cast members are the perfect fit for their respective characters. As such, I think that a live action remake would completely eradicate the most important elements of the original franchise (e.g., Hiccup's incredibly powerful bond with Toothless), meaning that I have no intentions to see it. Besides, there are times when a movie simply demands animation as the medium of choice, regardless of which type of animation it is.
How anyone thought that live-action remakes of classic animated films was a good idea, I have no idea, nor why anyone wanted to do them in the first place.
When I heard they were doing a live action remake of "How to Train Your Dragon" I was actually heartbroken. Not only is it one of my favourite movies ever made but also the subject of viking culture and mythology is very important to me personally - and judging by the casting they won't do as good of a job in that aspect. I definitely won't be watching the remake cause I don't want it to taint my memories and fondness towards the original.
tbh, it could have been a kind of interesting idea if they made a reboot based more closely off of the books, which were actually fairly different to the movies.
even tho i love the how to train your dragon series, i dont really care about the live action, but what i DO care. MORE JOHN POWELL MUSIC!!! I CANT WAIT TO LISTEN TO THE NEW HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON SOUNDTRACK, EVEN IF ITS A REMAKE OF THE OG ONE
I feel so disappointed with the fact that everyone was praising DreamWorks for Puss in Boots, complaining about Disney and their live action remakes, then DreamWorks goes there and do the same
i never imagined my childhood favorite is the first one to suffer the live action treatment in DreamWorks' catalogue 😢 somehow i blame this on NBC Universal (since they are the ones who bought DreamWorks recently). kind of how Disney is mistreating the multitude of companies they hold, including Pixar
same. You should look up the eragon live adaption, the whole fandom pretends it doesnt exist lol, its so bad it hurts, since the books were actually so good.
My guess is that dreamworks are gonna purposely make live action how to train your dragon suck as a good excuse not to make live action adaptations ever again
When we went to see The Hidden World, after the movie I was talking to my dad about how it was the last movie in the series and I was kinda sad about it but glad it got such a great ending. He said that "Well maybe it will make so much money they'll have to make another one" or something along those lines. At the time I didn't know to say "I hope not because then it'll just be a cynical cash grab and it will ruin the franchise." But now looking back after the Nine Realms and now the announcement of the live-action remake... Let's just say that life has a way of cruel irony.
Wow, this man went into the future to watch this live action version and came back into the present just to tell us that it won’t be good. What a winner!
When Dragon and the nine realms exists only to appeal to fan in order to get money from this franchise, I think the live action remake can't be worst than this show
I wouldnt go so far to say the stufio and medium is dead, you've got puss in boots success and they will certainly do their damn best with shrek 5 having the brand. It really is sad that they did that but thats capitalism and if disney keeps doing it they must be getting some coing from it. I got hope in the animation team of the studio regardless of how bad the live actions would be, and hopefully with puss in boots and spider verse 2 we'll get the studios willing to invest in proper animations and allow for more creativity
Good job! While watching this, near the end, I immediately thought of Doug Walker's criticism with 'The Cat in the Hat' (2003) - which is that what works in animation might not always work in live action and he used the Things as an example because of how terrified he felt while watching the film. To paraphrase Walker, the reason why the original Things worked was because the artist can get away with odd facial features while maintaining the cute appeal of their designs. And I agree with him. I think those, the fish voiced by Sean Hayes, the Who's from 'The Grinch' (2000), and even Sebastian from this year's 'The Little Mermaid' go into uncanny valley and make me uncomfortable to watch since these live action remakes underestimated the power of animation.
News: the httyd fandom is going to love this! Httyd fandom: screaming no and dumping the idea in a trash bin and threatening to sue the company if they make the movie
Seeing the behind the scenes of the original movie and how much time and effort the directors put into making a good story makes me feel so bad that a live action cash cow is being made of it
The only reason why there making it is to advertise a new themed land about the HTTYD property coming to the new universal theme park epic universe. Similar on what they did with the Super Mario bros move
Your title implies that live action dreamworks films won't work. War Of The Worlds, Saving Private Ryan and Catch Me If You Can: Are we a joke to to you?
Imo opinion it mostly depends on the people behind these projects, the source material itself & how they choose to adapt it. I'm a big fan of animated stuff. Attack on titan & Fma: Brotherhood are 2 of my favorite shows of all time but I also love the live action Rurouni Kenshin movies. They have the advantage of still being amazing martial arts samurai movies on their own. The live action Alice in Borderland is also pretty good. I'm not fully against live action retellings & adaptations.
New contracts for Disney animated movies are just going to sign the voice actors on for the animated film and for a live action. Filming will just happen simultaneously.
This is so frustrating. DreamWorks returned to relevancy with Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2, and I’m actually excited for the Kraken movie, but if they throw new ideas away in favor of remakes, they’ll suffer the same way that Disney is beginning to.
Unlike Disney’s upcoming live action remake of Moana that’s unfortunately happening, here’s my casting for a fictional live action Shrek Remake (I did this for fun and nothing else): Shrek - Tom Hardy Princess Fiona - Scarlett Johansson Lord Farquaad - Peter Dinklage (I mean, who else?) Donkey - Kevin Hart Monsieur Hood - Tahar Rahim
The only way I don't see this as being disrespectful to the original is if DreamWorks is doing what Disney isn't Completely accurately adapting the original work, the books so we have two different films not trying to have one replace the other I could actually still respect DreamWorks going down this route effectively double dipping on IP but like how Sony made different Spider-Man series And in this matter they COULD justify stopping at just this and Shrek Like I could get behind Disney making the live action Little Mermaid follow the original fairy tale
Legit… actually p cool to imagine, the books are incredible. I also think it’d be difficult but… idk, some of the books’ plots can be filler-y (don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of character development, but you could still have that along the way over different adventures). That and the charm and eventual darkness of the books is totally different than the series we’ve got, and I think you could get both comedy and serious dread from more realistic-looking dragons (the latter being the villain at the end of the series, a dragon named Furious. He’s terrifying just to imagine by words). Unfortunately I really don’t think that’s what this’ll be. Same directors? It’s funny bc in the past I think people immediately took that as a hopeful sign but… yeah… honestly feel a little bad for them considering it’s their baby that’s probably gonna get butchered even if it’s not the script or whatever - the CGI alone might kill the movie, we’ve seen it before over and over. They might regret signing up for it by the end, cuz I doubt they’ve just gone in it for the money and hate their films or whatever, last I heard they only had fond sentiments for HttyD. I’d still put my ticket on this concept if I could influence this tragedy somehow. Oh and unfortunately, if it’s been confirmed that someone is “Astrid” then… unless they’re doing a name swap… she’s the animated HTTYD’s original character. In the books her counterpart is a somewhat similar girl (who does have a not remotely bird-like dragon called Stormfly. She can speak Norse!) called Camicazi, who’s Hiccup’s BFF besides Fishlegs (who’s totally different in the books) and also from another tribe entirely. So unless they just swapped out the names for nostalgia/IP appeal, but again, I REALLY doubt it 😢
I agree about Remakes being shit , however having the original director can make it better since they understand what made it good Also I think Animation is in the best place its been in a while thanks to Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. So many more interesting styles for movies like mitchells vs the machines , The Bad Guys and Puss in boots the last wish
Dragons is the ultimate place for DreamWorks to test the water, and it can work if they decide on making it similar, but not too similar, maybe new villains and altered plots.
to me, the main reason why i'm excited for this movie is because I want to see how well they take the dragon's designs and transfer them to live action.
Look, I grew up on how to train your dragon, that movie is what got me into film making. I'm looking forward to this remake: if it's good then that's great! If it isn't, it doesn't ruin the original. I only care if they make sure toothless looks good in live action.
I hate about this diversity thing that it is just about black an white. But there are so many cultures out there in the world. And I don't mind diversity in regards to ethnicity when it's believable. But in the case of Httyd I think it is already pretty diverse because we have so many different people and characters. Some stronger and weaker ones, a whole bunch with disabilities and so on.
I say give it a try, maybe it won’t be as good as the animated ones but I’m curious on how their first take on this is going to go Remeber it’s the studios first try at turning something animated into a live action movie so I will give it a try at least
DreamWorks has stepped up its game and problably thought "Well, we can do better than Disney in the live action trend too". However, though I believe they will put more effort into the script, the main issue remains: these movies were animated for good reasons. They work in that media, not as live actions.
As much as I hate Dreamworks doing a live action remake, I do believe they will handle it better. For one, the original directors are in charge of it, and two, there was a play made for HTTYD, so there is a chance.
My argument does fail in the latter as I have not watched it and dont know if its good or not, but I want to have hope that it could be good or at least ok and not downwrite horrendous.
I'm still worries seeing how poorly all the other remakes turned out
@@exoticraptor9436 I saw the httyd stage performance, albeit when I was 5-6 years old. I do remember brief flashes of it and the adults I went with all said it was amazing. I wish I remembered more of it. Imo they should bring back the live spectacular instead of remaking the movies in live action. I have SOME hope since the original directors are in on the movie, but I really don't think it'll be very good
Yeah, pr they can make it more like the books since they were a very fun read
as much as i love the movie, httyd does not have much in common with the books, if the remake was a telling of the book instead just a retelling of the first movie that would be great
There is a noticeable difference between when a movie is made for the sake of inspiring audiences with fresh, original ideas, and when a movie is made for the sole purpose of profit, no matter if it disrespect the original material.
well said
At this rate I don't even understand why they keep doing this when even their long time audiences are getting sick of it. Little Mermaid has been dropping like a stone. At some point they must realize this strategy is no longer going to be profitable.
@@barbiquearea I agree. Disney chose profit over common sense.
@@barbiquearea only when people stop being so blinded by nostalgia, only when Disney's revenue is hurt. By then and only then, they will understand that they can't trick people to buy their shit every year.
Studios are just releasing products now.
tbh i'm tired of live action remakes, it's getting annoying at this point
they could do 2D animation remakes instead lmao
I'm also tired of traditional animators not stepping up, and making new content for cinemas, and television as an alternative to the crap that the big media conglomerates churn out. Almost as if they fell they couldn't compete with CG, or live action, or they would be shamed out of business for not 'conforming' with what they think the public wants. (It's like of certain game developers didn't bother to put out classic looking 2D games in A market that's got way too much 'Tripple A' 3D games to fill A void left by companies that took pride in making 2D games.) All animation veterans, and anyone who makes 2D animation for UA-cam, or Newgrounds need to step up, and fill A void left by the big media conglomerates if we ever want to see traditional animation survive.
@@Launchpad05 That won't happen until they're paid enough, that's why there's a huge writers strike going on in Hollywood currently, they're being mistreated and underpaid.
When I heard Dreamworks was making their own live action, I felt like Obi Wan Kenobi: “You were the chosen one! It was said you would destroy Disney, not Join them!”
@@RedRoseSeptember22 Then our only hope for 2D animation's survival are the outsiders who aren't working in 'the system', and I already have doubts about that.
As a How to Train your Dragon fan I am upset that it is being remade and am not excited about it. I don’t even wanna think about how Toothless will look.
what i loved most about httyd was how they made their characters look. they are big, burly, missing teeth, big noses, freckles, missing limbs, the teens are lanky and akward looking. and so on. all these imperfections really added to the world of httyd. and thats something i feel only animation can really pull off. i already hate the actors they chose. because they look to "holywood perfect"
I don’t know who they cast for most of the characters except for hiccup and Astrid and hiccup casting is not to shabby but astrid, seriously guys comm on, can we get at least one movie without race swapping a character these days
If you want these guys to stop making live action movies, just don't watch it. At this point we should be boycotting all of their live action releases to send them a message, that the majority of us don't want them anymore and they shouldn't be getting away with making half-baked sloppy seconds.
Exactly. The only thing they listen to is money, so less is better to get the message across.
Tell that to lazy parents who let their kids be raised by a tablet and they keep getting advertisement for these movies, therefore annoying the shit out of the parents until they get to watch it on the theater
Unfortunately big part of people just don't care about how these live actions are just lazily made for profit and watch it anyway cause "it's the adult version of it cause animation is for kids"
@@kawaiiemolgait’s okay to bully those types of people.
I already plan on not watching it. I am sticking with the original animated ones that I own.
Oh god no! Why? Disney is already bad enough of disrespecting the art form, we do not need another studio doing the same.
Dreamworks did one of the BEST pieces of representation and immersion I've ever seen in the original HTTYD film. You want to know what it was? They had an Icelandic singer Jónsi sing the credit song Sticks & stones in Icelandic in the second half of the song. Now, Name a single scandanavian actor/actress. Bet you can't. Where is their representation? When does mutilculturalism work and not work, is what the producers should've asked themselves. They should've had a scandinavian cast. That would've increased the immersion and world building. But by having multiculturalism in this specific scenario, you lose the immersion of the film. It's the same as having white people in Asian period dramas as casting. It's the same as casting white people in the ATLA live action years ago when they were in a very Asian setting. It ruined the immersion and world-building.
Can all us HTTYD fans just agree to not watch this in cinemas? I'm sick of studios sucking the life and magic out of incredible animations by using realism. Sick of them shitting on the face of animators.
If I watch it, it will probably be through pirating. I don't want live action remakes to get my money lol. Usually I don't care a lot about race swapping, like with Ariel I just found it a shame she didn't look like the original redhead but like eh, okay. It's a mermaid and she was still great! But with Astrid.. that actress looks nothing like her, and I was hoping so much for scandinavic casting as a scandinavian myself.
@@dove2826 Absolutely. I want to see the shitshow but I refuse to give them any money for it.
Really is a shame too, because irrc the original got a bit of shit for giving the Vikings Scottish accents (and not even consistently), when they aren't Scottish? So this could have been a great opportunity to course-correct and actually do some research and be more accurate the real culture, because even though they were predominantly white, it IS still a culture, but that's too much to ask I guess.
@@sarcasticat6979 I was more weirded out by the adult having accents but every single kid having an American accent. Honestly, at the end of the day, the whole back-and-forth about diversity is never an actual big deal in the movie. A shitty script is a shitty script regardless of the visuals and casting.
@@dove2826the Vikings for when they where still around the Vikings where actually Scandinavian and had a slight bit of culture, races, and accents.
There is no A:TLA remake in Ba Sing Se
What’s next, a Shrek live action remake? For fuck’s sake, not everything needs to be remade into real life!
Universal already tried making live action versions of their cartoons before it was trendy with Jay Ward's Rocky & Bullwinkile, and Dudley Do-Right.
For real
HMM well how about making the book versions of the some of the movies they did??? Some of the movies are based on books and books are darker if they do it would be for adults
Fiona gonna be a albino black girl lmao.
@@killeryhiltons8499 I'd rather watch the Shrek musical.
Instead of doing Live-Action Remake of theirs popular highly acclimated 3D animated films, they should instead try doing Live-Action Remake of theirs underrated 2D animated movies from the early/late 2000s. The Road to El Dorado, The Prince of Egypt, Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas, those 2D DreamWorks movies from the 2000s.
Heck, even Treasure Planet.
@@QueSeraSeraaaa that's a Disney movie.
The Prince of Egypt is not underrated though. Its well known and a live-action remake would never compare to it and its distinct style.
LMAO UNDERRATED
Prince of Egypt is basically a retelling of the 1956 classic The Ten Commandments.
Yeah I don’t want a remake period. Especially one of HTTYD. The cgi dragons are gonna look horrifying and one of the best parts of the movies is how animated the characters are, how incredible and magical the world building is despite the realistic backgrounds; it makes the world seem bigger. If they wanna remake something they should do their more underrated pieces: Road to El Dorado or Sinbad.
This feels like they’re trying to outshine Disney and have a d measuring contest with them. A competition no one wants. When will companies realise that original ideas are what’s valued. This may come off as spiteful but I really hope this flops to the point that no one remembers this
I think Dreamworks is more likely to pull off a live action remake significantly better than Disney, but my question is why do they need to? Just reboot HTTYD with a new cast of characters that takes place a couple generations later... not like the latest TV show did though. I think they could do it as a live action movie as well, but I think it would be better to use their current animation style for it.
There is something like that, The Nine Realms... Its not good
@@geministrial950 "not like the latest TV show did though"
@@geministrial950 The idea of later generations rediscovering the dragons is good IMO the execution of that show was very bad though. I'd also set it a couple generations later not around our time or in the future.
Have you watched live action ghost in the shell? It is made by Dreamworks
@@dns0095 I still trust them more than Disney in this regard. At least they haven't nuked this dead horse yet like Disney has. I'd still prefer new and original content both live action and animated though.
Honestly even though Dreamworks is one of the better studios in Hollywood right now I'm finding myself significantly more drawn towards Anime and Chinese Donghua right now. Heck with Disney going through their anti Renaissance with this endless line of live action remakes it's actually pretty cool that Chinese animation is going through it's own Renaissance. I don't agree with what their government at all, but damn if they aren't creatively outdoing Hollywood right now.
Heck instead of watching the Little Mermaid remake I'd recommend looking into a movie called Deep Sea which will probably be making the rounds in theaters or on streaming later this summer or in the fall.
2D animators are now looking at 3D animators and telling them 'first time?'.
I have always loved HTTYD movies and the entire franchise (except for those modern series) and I am so worried about how this is gonna look in love action. The charm of dragons lies in their expressions, in Toothless’ funny cute face and how the dragons are so similar to their Vikings. Making them live action either means creating grotesque creepy monsters which is not really suited for children’s movie or designing something like live action Pinocchio which we all know how it went visually. HTTYD has unique design for characters and backgrounds realistic enough to not need to be remade. Besides the animation of these movies is just gorgeous for 2010/2014/2019 and I see no need to take away all the magic it has as is.
I'm convinced animation is never going to be respected as a media since people can so easily forget the original art piece when someone announces they'll make the "real life" (that is, boring, cold and "mature") version of that art.
Creative stories work with visual arts because visual arts are supposed to rely on reality for it's ground, not it's core. The dystopian future where we don't contemplate art for what it is, is already happening.
I remember when they did grammy and the mcs were like: "animation is for kids"
So i wont be surprised anymore
Imagine a live action Madagascar
So like Disney's "live action" lion king
@@Mr_Robotts yes
Wash your mouth out with soap
Why did this made me laugh, I just imagine the chaos that is Madagascar turned into Live Action and how cured that could be-
It’ll just make the live action Lion King look like a masterpiece
And they race-swapped Astrid, blonde Scandinavian Viking girl. The Vikings weren’t multiracial. Only white people were Vikings, so the casting should reflect that.
That’s exactly what I criticise too. Like don’t swap races if it doesn’t make sense. I hate it when they just change the original character designs so drastically, it’s like another person all of sudden (that’s not just about race, also things like haircolors & stuff). Like just make a new original movie with new original characters and nobody’s mad at you
And like how will that work with Light-Fury??? It obvious that Toothless is Hiccup. So Toothless needs a Dragon Astrid so they made Light-Fury. Are they going to make her Shadow-Fury in the LA movie???
It's a Game of Thrones verses a Rings Of Power thing. Hollywood seems allergic to the idea that people are in certain parts of the world and that the gender/race/sexuality of a character might be different than what it is in 2023?
I’m gonna give Dreamworks the benefit of the doubt. Dreamwork’s entire existence is to spite Disney and to go against the shit they’ve done. Maybe Dreamworks would have a list of what Disney does wrong and try to do the remake justice. Expectations aren’t high, but they aren’t dead low
Then why the F did they make Astrid black?
@@RedRoseSeptember22 No way you are righ...
OH MY GOD THEY MADE HER BLACK!
@@RedRoseSeptember22 It does not even make sense here (not that it ever did before but this one is exceptional) because Vikings are typically made up of Norse and Scandinavian people who are by culture and genetics white!! So race-swapping a viking as a black person is actually cultural appropriation and culturally insensitive. So much for typical Hollywood representation 🙄
@@RedRoseSeptember22 wait what, lemme actually watch the vid holup..
@@dewolf123 political correctness is so out of control that working with a mainly white cast is scary to them
The real shame is, the HTTYD live theatre shows were wonderful! The puppets and actors were having great fun. It's so silly Universal doesn't promote those more.
Too much live-actions, no creativity and passion poured into them..
I fear that HTTYD live-action will fail like Disney did.
From what I've heard, the reason they're doing this is actually because Dreamworks will be in charge of producing a Legend of Zelda movie franchise (remember that both Dreamworks and Illumination are owned by Universal), and they still wanted to explore the How to Train Your Dragon franchise, but didn't want it to compete with Zelda seeing how they're both family friendly high fantasy adventure franchises.
Even if this turns out to be garbage (which it probably will be judging solely for the fact that they ALREADY race-swapped Astrid, even though Black people weren't Vikings), if it means Dreamworks's A team will be spearheading a Zelda franchise alongside Nintendo, it's a sacrifice I'm more than willing to accept
No one cares about some Zelda. They should leave httyd alone and not sacrifice it for "greater good" 😡
@@lysander3459 You'd be surprised. specially with how well the Mario movie performed, a Zelda movie has a lot more potential than anything else they might wanna dow with httyd. (And I say this as a fan of the films, that story is pretty much over, if what they want is to make a cash-grab remake that will be forgotten the moment it leaves cinemas, and that allows in the actual Talent at Dreamworks to make a great adaptation under Nintendo's supervision, then it's a net positive).
If they are gonna start making more I feel that one of Sinbad with a star studded cast could work. I need Ana De Armas as Marina & Megan Fox as Eris
Why?
@RedRoseSeptember22 It is because Sinbad and The Legend of the Seven Seas is an underrated movie. By having an underrated animated movie being given the live action remake treatment would bring in the fans who enjoyed the original and those that didn't know it existed.
I feel like Eris would not be done justice in live action.
@@captainslender12 I could see Megan Fox kinda working, then it'd be just a matter of the CGI being up to snuff.
I’d love to see Nicholas Hoult as Proteus
I was so disappointed when they announced this, do they want to follow in Disney's footsteps? SMH.
I have Viking blood from my grandads side of the family that makes me a Viking king descendent since the king was called Robert then his son Robertson I think it was and as I know it we’re mostly white with welsh blood in there too, reason it worked so well with how to train your dragon was they followed the law and what race vikings actually are which hair colours they can come in especially if it’s blond, brown and so on, with the casting with the live action version I was skeptical because of 2 reasons, hiccup needs to have straight hair but a dark colour but his actor doesn’t have that and with Astrid her hair is straight and blonde but her actor is not blonde and is a different skin colour which doesn’t sit right with me, in real life lore there was not alot of black vikings just a few meaning the Viking king mainly only went after the white ones mostly, take my family for example they are all white and it goes by tradition which is why they don’t mix with black people too much so they can retain that colour in the family as the dominant colour.
Universal, no, bad studio, bad
First the complete disaster that the 9 realms was, now this. It's like they're trying to milk every penny that they can out of the original franchise
A live-action Shrek movie making jokes about the live-action Disney movies will probably be made. With jokes about the realistic CGI of Donkey (a joke about the 2019 The Lion King remake) and jokes about Black Fiona (2023 The Little Mermaid remake) and the villain being a bad rat to parody Mickey Mouse.
If it's an original story it could be fun. If it just remaking the original, Shrek retold is where is at!
This there is a Live-Action Shrek to made and they mock THE HELL out of it then I'm all in for it.
wasnt that chip and dale 2022
And if no way other studios started this trend now too we need to stop supporting These from any studio
Are they gonna do the dragons with cgi animation or something? Because like?? Whats the point in adapting 3d animation into what is essentially more realistically rendered 3d animation with more limits
Also im disagreeing with the casting because imo the guy looks more like spiderman than hiccup.. he isnt giving lanky little viking to me. like maybe we could pull out Scandinavian actors out instead of american ones if we’re trying to be realistic about it
The best way for this type of films to end is not going to see them. If you don't want them to make more don't buy a ticket for it. Companies will go where the money is, If this remake is a flop they won't risk to make more.
Speak with your wallet!
I agree. I also find many of the live action remakes annoying. I mean, come on. There is so much more that can be done with animation (e.g., creating scenes involving fire with a much lower risk of a serious accident occurring). In fact, one the few times I can remember a live action remake being better than an animated movie is when Peter Jackson decided to create his adaptation of The Lord of the Rings triology. The reason for this is because, having seen both the animated movie from 1978 and the live action triology from 2001- 2003, it is obvious that there was a significant amount of passion behind every detail, from the battle scenes to the way in which the CG elements are carefully blended into the triology to really make the world of Middle Earth come to life on screen. As for How to train your Dragon, I think that the main franchise is perfect just the way it is; Jay Baruchel, America Ferrera, and all the other cast members are the perfect fit for their respective characters. As such, I think that a live action remake would completely eradicate the most important elements of the original franchise (e.g., Hiccup's incredibly powerful bond with Toothless), meaning that I have no intentions to see it. Besides, there are times when a movie simply demands animation as the medium of choice, regardless of which type of animation it is.
How anyone thought that live-action remakes of classic animated films was a good idea, I have no idea, nor why anyone wanted to do them in the first place.
"you were supposed to defeat them, not join them"
Dude the lip sync of the old guy and your voice is so perfect
Imagine a live action remake of the Bee Movie
When I heard they were doing a live action remake of "How to Train Your Dragon" I was actually heartbroken. Not only is it one of my favourite movies ever made but also the subject of viking culture and mythology is very important to me personally - and judging by the casting they won't do as good of a job in that aspect. I definitely won't be watching the remake cause I don't want it to taint my memories and fondness towards the original.
How hard is it to just make an original concept and make that live action?
Thanks for tryimg to save the animated world you will not go unnoticed
tbh, it could have been a kind of interesting idea if they made a reboot based more closely off of the books, which were actually fairly different to the movies.
even tho i love the how to train your dragon series, i dont really care about the live action, but what i DO care. MORE JOHN POWELL MUSIC!!! I CANT WAIT TO LISTEN TO THE NEW HOW TO TRAIN YOUR DRAGON SOUNDTRACK, EVEN IF ITS A REMAKE OF THE OG ONE
I feel so disappointed with the fact that everyone was praising DreamWorks for Puss in Boots, complaining about Disney and their live action remakes, then DreamWorks goes there and do the same
I think George Carlin once said in his stand up: “How can you possibly be nostalgic about something like a little while ago?”
I don't know... like im nostalgic about 2022 now wtf
Imagine a Live Action Shrek Where They make fun of all Disney's Live Action Remakes.
And a live action Over the hedge
If anything, they should do animated remake of Dreamworks' lesser live-action originals instead like The Tuxedo, The Stepford Wives and Eagle Eye.
imagine doing animation in a live action remake of an animation movie
i never imagined my childhood favorite is the first one to suffer the live action treatment in DreamWorks' catalogue 😢 somehow i blame this on NBC Universal (since they are the ones who bought DreamWorks recently). kind of how Disney is mistreating the multitude of companies they hold, including Pixar
i am gona pretend there is no live action if they make it
same. You should look up the eragon live adaption, the whole fandom pretends it doesnt exist lol, its so bad it hurts, since the books were actually so good.
@@345sdf i watched it :P
@@mecadragoon You have a very strong will if thats true.
@@345sdf i didnt even knew there were books :P i did enjoy the movie tho
My guess is that dreamworks are gonna purposely make live action how to train your dragon suck as a good excuse not to make live action adaptations ever again
When we went to see The Hidden World, after the movie I was talking to my dad about how it was the last movie in the series and I was kinda sad about it but glad it got such a great ending. He said that "Well maybe it will make so much money they'll have to make another one" or something along those lines.
At the time I didn't know to say "I hope not because then it'll just be a cynical cash grab and it will ruin the franchise." But now looking back after the Nine Realms and now the announcement of the live-action remake...
Let's just say that life has a way of cruel irony.
5:33 What's next, a live-action despicable me from illumination? Could you just imagine what a live-action CGI minion would look like, omg🤣
The hell is the point of live action remakes? the stuidos already know that everyone hates them yet they keep doing it.. WHY?!
Basically removing the magic that Dreamwork's Dragons, worldbuilding is not the same without the color over grittiness
I love the HTTYD series. Ive consumed pretty much everything HTTYD but even I won't stoop so low to watch the live action
Wow, this man went into the future to watch this live action version and came back into the present just to tell us that it won’t be good. What a winner!
I'm going to save Hollywood for getting my dream job as stopping all this ridiculous madness in today's world and 21st century.
Do "Why Disney Live-Action Dosen't Work" next
When Dragon and the nine realms exists only to appeal to fan in order to get money from this franchise, I think the live action remake can't be worst than this show
I have four words for one the reason why this probably won’t do well and they are “The Casting of Astrid”
I wouldnt go so far to say the stufio and medium is dead, you've got puss in boots success and they will certainly do their damn best with shrek 5 having the brand. It really is sad that they did that but thats capitalism and if disney keeps doing it they must be getting some coing from it. I got hope in the animation team of the studio regardless of how bad the live actions would be, and hopefully with puss in boots and spider verse 2 we'll get the studios willing to invest in proper animations and allow for more creativity
Good job!
While watching this, near the end, I immediately thought of Doug Walker's criticism with 'The Cat in the Hat' (2003) - which is that what works in animation might not always work in live action and he used the Things as an example because of how terrified he felt while watching the film. To paraphrase Walker, the reason why the original Things worked was because the artist can get away with odd facial features while maintaining the cute appeal of their designs. And I agree with him. I think those, the fish voiced by Sean Hayes, the Who's from 'The Grinch' (2000), and even Sebastian from this year's 'The Little Mermaid' go into uncanny valley and make me uncomfortable to watch since these live action remakes underestimated the power of animation.
News: the httyd fandom is going to love this!
Httyd fandom: screaming no and dumping the idea in a trash bin and threatening to sue the company if they make the movie
DREAMWORKS!!! YOU BECAME THE VERY THING YOU SWORE TO DESTROY!!!
There’s hope they will do better
Until you realize is not actually Dreamworks producing it, it’s universal itself
Dreamworks just went on a highest role ever in history. But after they make a httyd live action. Idk what will happen? Pls don’t let this movie down❤🙏
Seeing the behind the scenes of the original movie and how much time and effort the directors put into making a good story makes me feel so bad that a live action cash cow is being made of it
The only reason why there making it is to advertise a new themed land about the HTTYD property coming to the new universal theme park epic universe. Similar on what they did with the Super Mario bros move
I get that they want diverse actors, but if they want to do a remake, the actor should correspond with how the original movies characters looked.
We already have a live action how to train your dragon. The guys who made walking with dinosaurs live did it with drivable animatronics.
“Stupid fat hobbit! You RUINZ it”
- Golem
Your title implies that live action dreamworks films won't work. War Of The Worlds, Saving Private Ryan and Catch Me If You Can:
Are we a joke to to you?
Imo opinion it mostly depends on the people behind these projects, the source material itself & how they choose to adapt it. I'm a big fan of animated stuff. Attack on titan & Fma: Brotherhood are 2 of my favorite shows of all time but I also love the live action Rurouni Kenshin movies. They have the advantage of still being amazing martial arts samurai movies on their own. The live action Alice in Borderland is also pretty good. I'm not fully against live action retellings & adaptations.
Universal already disrespected How To Train Your Dragon Series with DreamWorks Dragons: The Nine Realms
Compare Exodus: Gods and Kings to Prince of Egypt. That's how live action DreamWorks is gonna look.
What's next? Kung-Fu Panda live action? 💀
DreamWorks was part of the team behind Band of Brothers. Live action remakes of cartoons are dumb. But DreamWorks can do live action
I wonder what they'll do when they run out of movies to remake
New contracts for Disney animated movies are just going to sign the voice actors on for the animated film and for a live action. Filming will just happen simultaneously.
This is so frustrating. DreamWorks returned to relevancy with Bad Guys and Puss in Boots 2, and I’m actually excited for the Kraken movie, but if they throw new ideas away in favor of remakes, they’ll suffer the same way that Disney is beginning to.
Unlike Disney’s upcoming live action remake of Moana that’s unfortunately happening, here’s my casting for a fictional live action Shrek Remake (I did this for fun and nothing else):
Shrek - Tom Hardy
Princess Fiona - Scarlett Johansson
Lord Farquaad - Peter Dinklage (I mean, who else?)
Donkey - Kevin Hart
Monsieur Hood - Tahar Rahim
DreamWorks should leave their animated classics alone as they don't need live-action remakes.
Well I want Road to El dorado and Monsters vs Aliens to get live action remakes
The only way I don't see this as being disrespectful to the original is if DreamWorks is doing what Disney isn't
Completely accurately adapting the original work, the books so we have two different films not trying to have one replace the other
I could actually still respect DreamWorks going down this route effectively double dipping on IP but like how Sony made different Spider-Man series
And in this matter they COULD justify stopping at just this and Shrek
Like I could get behind Disney making the live action Little Mermaid follow the original fairy tale
Legit… actually p cool to imagine, the books are incredible. I also think it’d be difficult but… idk, some of the books’ plots can be filler-y (don’t get me wrong, there’s a lot of character development, but you could still have that along the way over different adventures). That and the charm and eventual darkness of the books is totally different than the series we’ve got, and I think you could get both comedy and serious dread from more realistic-looking dragons (the latter being the villain at the end of the series, a dragon named Furious. He’s terrifying just to imagine by words).
Unfortunately I really don’t think that’s what this’ll be. Same directors? It’s funny bc in the past I think people immediately took that as a hopeful sign but… yeah… honestly feel a little bad for them considering it’s their baby that’s probably gonna get butchered even if it’s not the script or whatever - the CGI alone might kill the movie, we’ve seen it before over and over. They might regret signing
up for it by the end, cuz I doubt they’ve just gone in it for the money and hate their films or whatever, last I heard they only had fond sentiments for HttyD.
I’d still put my ticket on this concept if I could influence this tragedy somehow.
Oh and unfortunately, if it’s been confirmed that someone is “Astrid” then… unless they’re doing a name swap… she’s the animated HTTYD’s original character. In the books her counterpart is a somewhat similar girl (who does have a not remotely bird-like dragon called Stormfly. She can speak Norse!) called Camicazi, who’s Hiccup’s BFF besides Fishlegs (who’s totally different in the books) and also from another tribe entirely. So unless they just swapped out the names for nostalgia/IP appeal, but again, I REALLY doubt it 😢
This will suck
The narrator sounds like another UA-camr who calls himself “Just Some Guy.”
I like how most of us hate live action movies, but it would be making millions or even billions at the box office.
I swear if they make the princess from Princess and the frog white ima lose it
They won't make a sequel for the Captain Underpants movie, but they want to do live-action remakes like Disney?!
I agree about Remakes being shit , however having the original director can make it better since they understand what made it good
Also I think Animation is in the best place its been in a while thanks to Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse. So many more interesting styles for movies like mitchells vs the machines , The Bad Guys and Puss in boots the last wish
Well I heard Prince of Egypt is on that board... I honestly fully support that one as green Light
What about road to el dorado it should get a live action remake
i thought that dreamworks was supposed to mock Disney's tropes and trends not copy them
Also, Universal is one of the sole producers as confirmed themselves for the Dragons reboot.
Dragons is the ultimate place for DreamWorks to test the water, and it can work if they decide on making it similar, but not too similar, maybe new villains and altered plots.
to me, the main reason why i'm excited for this movie is because I want to see how well they take the dragon's designs and transfer them to live action.
Look, I grew up on how to train your dragon, that movie is what got me into film making. I'm looking forward to this remake: if it's good then that's great! If it isn't, it doesn't ruin the original. I only care if they make sure toothless looks good in live action.
Hey! At least you got another studio to hate on besides Disney now
So im guessing Shrek, Kung Fu Panda and Madagascar are next, im scared what Shrek would look like
And this, kids, is _WHY_ anime is eating Hollyweird's lunch...and breakfast and dinner.
Well at least Disney’s remakes won’t be the ONLY ones getting backlashed.
I hate about this diversity thing that it is just about black an white. But there are so many cultures out there in the world. And I don't mind diversity in regards to ethnicity when it's believable. But in the case of Httyd I think it is already pretty diverse because we have so many different people and characters. Some stronger and weaker ones, a whole bunch with disabilities and so on.
I say give it a try, maybe it won’t be as good as the animated ones but I’m curious on how their first take on this is going to go Remeber it’s the studios first try at turning something animated into a live action movie so I will give it a try at least
With this social climate, m wondering which Viking characters will be race swapped….
You need only look at Disney for ten seconds to see why it won' work.
So they have chosen death.
Death straight up
To be honest I am not sure how to feel about it for now
I dont think they choose Halle Bailey for a shield because her Performance in The Little Mermaid is insane