You have become hands down my most favorite UA-cam channel. I appreciate how you are not just an obsessive knife nerd only, but also funny and have a sick yard with chickens and cool dogs. And you talk to a brick….like what’s not to enjoy?? Keep up the legit videos. Always fun.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE K390. And here's my stupid reason why. I am not afraid to USE and ABUSE it! SO many other steels/knives do not feel like real working steels for me. This stains, it gets used, it is so hard it takes it and holds the edge, so you use it more. It gets that patina and it gets appreciated. I am a giant K390 fan for actual real use knives over premium knives I am scared to bring out to do a job. Great stuff.
For people wondering, that 1000 grit finish is off of a TSProf diamond stone and it’s measured in FEPA. So F1000 which is equivalent to 4,500 grit. Don’t assume you can get a mirror polish off of regular 1000 grit
I feel like we should make sure that Pete knows this. the F400 FEPA stone on the TSProf he used for the Endela is more equivalent to about 1077 grit in Imperial. even the F150 Stone is worth about 227 grit American
Hi guy! Thought I would give you a tip. You mentioned that your D-2 knives were rusting. I made knives as a Custom Maker for over 47 years, and have used a lot of other makers D-2 knives. I have never, so much as once had a Real D-2 knife rust. Ever! I have cleaned countless heads of game with D-2 knives from several makers. All high hardness, all well finished. Some of the top makers out there over the years. Jimmy Lile. Bob Dozer, George Herron, and mine as well. All held an edge considerably better than any I've seen yot test in the steel. At 63+ it really shines! Yet I've tested a lot of Chinese D-2 knives and all but one we very non-impressive. Now were much better than 440-B or AUS-8 which are both terrible edgeholders I notice that you keep your knives in a plastic divided container. You see, plastic causes moisture to concentrate and a much higher rate, particularly in a humid environment that say a dry wood, or cardboard. It may very well be the container (tray you are keeping your knives in. For those that do not know, also keeping your knives in a leather sheath or pouch can cause all kinds of damage. Leather is tanned using varying taningacids and these acids attack metal. Again, it is much worse in humid environments. Very much enjoy your efforts in testing. Fine Work!!! KnifeMaker/Retired
Proving that your role on the knife tubes is surely not in question. Simultaneously leading the community of brick communications and twisted sisal sacrifice. I know no other who is outstanding in their field, as the rest are indoors. Thank you.
Cheers Pete I knew I loved my k390 it's just nice to have confermation, tested results. Even if your going to be off again with rsi... Over 3000 cuts of twisted sisal rope, your wrist must be killing. Cheers for the sacrifice.
It good to see you sitting up higher now. I recently rewatched some older videos where you are basically level with the table and I can't imagine how much worse that was on your shoulder.
Have to say that seki K390 is great stuff! Pretty easy to sharpen, holds an edge a long time, resistant to major damage when I do stupid shit with it. Glad to see some repeat testing against M390 / 20CV! Cheers! Although what I walk away with is also being really impressed with Magna-Cut as well.
After watching the Magnacut and now this one on some K390 love. I was about half expecting to hear some Rocky ( Gonna fly now ) tunes playing while you were mixing it up your own rope-a-dope magic. Thank you from Ohio!
I don't know about anyone else but I had to turn the volume up to hear the talking, and then I got absolutely sonic blasted by the music :( Great content, though, I love watching these experiments!
K390 is great! The Dragonfly 2 in this steel is my go-to low profile folder. I’m a big fan of tool steels. They have enough free chromium for decent corrosion resistance and feel crisper on the stones than stainless steels. Usually tougher too.
I totally love your recent videos and I'm glad, that your back to the knife game 🤪 Fine vs coarse grit edges are super interesting to me, because they reflect real world use so well!
It's becoming more of a human endurance test than an edge retention test!! K390 is a great steel and I think you're right in that it tolerates some edge variability better than most premium steels. Great vid. Sharp blades all.
NGL, I bought a Stretch 2 (K390) because of your video you did with the Endela in K390. Thank you for all you do, I know it can be monotonous, but you do make a difference.
I respect seeing honesty, sharpness testing requires a set standard, and I understand sticking to your testing method. The higher polished edge will better resist corrosion and the buildup of sticky materials. Cutting rope is your testing standard, too late in the game to change now.
Interesting test! I have one question: Could you tell me the thicknesses behind the edges? That might explain why(if the HT is the same) the Stretch outcut the Police. And it would be interesting to know in general. My guess is the Stretch is thinner behind the 17 dps edge. I also have the Stretch 2 and I have to admit that I like K390, so far, more than M4, hen it comes to how it holds its edge and how it can be stropped back. If I would have to pick a sssteel for a knife like the Stretch or Endura, a work/test knife...it would be k390. Especially if it is ground thinner behind the edge. Good video!
Thanks for another great video. When I hit search on UA-cam, Cedric and Ada is always top of the pre populated list. Love your content. So you’ve explored K390 performance variation with edge finish as applied to rope. Is it too much to hope for a repeat test but on onions? If time is a constraint then you might limit testing to the Endela, your primary onion knife. I’d be comfortable with extrapolating the results to other knives and other vegetables.
Pete, I've been using the "Dual Grit" 250 \ 1000 on my K390 PM2. Works great and appreciate you showing the dual grit in cut testing. I may try gritty \ toothy edges as a next experiment. thanks for the video. : )
Good stuff. I hadn't seen this channel before, but it was second after Beeze in the list of "other channels your viewers watch" in my UA-cam data thingy. Now I see why, silly videos about real stuff 😄
Ever tried k390 at 15 degrees per side or even less? Around 15 seems to be about the limit for k390 in my testing with dropping my angle much lower than that significantly reduced the edge retention. But I hand sharpen all my edges and don’t measure the angle exactly so these numbers for me are educated guesses. I always try to sharpen all my knives to produce the highest edge retention and slicing ease without worrying about how the edge looks so my edges are almost always 10-15 degrees per side depending on the steel. K390 is one of the only few I’ve not had good results with taking it lower than around 15 per side.
Thanks again, Pete, for another great cut test. I've got an Endela in K390 on order. You and Erica with notyouraverageEDC convinced me. I'm sending good vibes for your hands to heal up fast!
Hey Pete would u believe I was just wondering what I was gunna watch and my mind was like I just want something relaxing like cedric and ada and poof u were the 1st video the algorithm sent when i opened up youtube. 👍👍👍 love your content man
Now I wonder if one if those knives has a dual edge similar to that previous Magnacut video would that boost that 1000 cuts to a similar number to magnacut or not ?
I've just started watching your videos (3 so far) and I dig em, love how you put your knives through the wringer to see what they can do. I too enjoy a good K390 and you've somewhat relieved my fears that my knives in that steel aren't gonna rust out on me lol, patina I like, rust not so much. Anyways thanks for the content and please keep cutting shit. 🔪
Wow bro what a great collection of knives! Honestly there is no perfect way to do edge retention tests, but in this manner, it certainly looks like it's easier on ya AND I HOPE IT IS SO! Good luck to ya you absolute legend of a Man!
Maybe what cuts paper the best is a microserrated edge. If a toothier edge retains microserrations longer than a mirror edge, you will end up with the result shown in the video.
I'm a big fan of high end tool steels like Cruwear, M4, and 15V, but still haven't gotten any knives in k390. I really want to try it out but the lockback folders Spyderco uses it on just aren't for me.
I'd love to see some comparison to other manufacturers' K390, but it's not a common steel. Only other option I'm aware of is from Lionsteel who've been quite well known for running their M390 softer than average, but I don't know if that applies to any of their other steels or not. I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Spyderco Enuff 2 in K390 when it comes out later this year. Kinda want a Stretch 2 XL in K390 or Magnacut, but the pricing on those particular models are FAR higher than what makes sense to me right now (the CruWear model that's been released is just under 2.5X the price of the VG10 model, both of which are made in the Seki factory).
The problem with lionsteel is the protocol. They dont use liquid nitrogen. They get 60rc in spec but its poor performance because of how its heat treated. Rc numbers are mostly bs unless there is context with it. Lionsteel could raise it to 62rc or even 64rc but with that same protocol it's not going to perform well regardless. Watch microstructure matters. You'll learn a few things. Though there's a lot more involved than what's discussed in that video.
I really wanna try K390 but I only buy knives with 4 inch blades and up. The police 4 is the only knife that covers that requirement from me and its long out of production. I'm wondering if its worth hunting for one and if K390 will even replace 4V as a favorite steel for me. Also there is the upcoming Spyderco Enuff 4 in K390 coming out so that's something to look forward too
You have become hands down my most favorite UA-cam channel. I appreciate how you are not just an obsessive knife nerd only, but also funny and have a sick yard with chickens and cool dogs. And you talk to a brick….like what’s not to enjoy?? Keep up the legit videos. Always fun.
The brick was genius if you ask me. Go high functioning autistics!
Couldn't agree more.
I LOVE LOVE LOVE K390.
And here's my stupid reason why. I am not afraid to USE and ABUSE it!
SO many other steels/knives do not feel like real working steels for me. This stains, it gets used, it is so hard it takes it and holds the edge, so you use it more. It gets that patina and it gets appreciated.
I am a giant K390 fan for actual real use knives over premium knives I am scared to bring out to do a job.
Great stuff.
For people wondering, that 1000 grit finish is off of a TSProf diamond stone and it’s measured in FEPA. So F1000 which is equivalent to 4,500 grit. Don’t assume you can get a mirror polish off of regular 1000 grit
I was wondering…Thanks!!! How does the KME grit rating compare (hard to get what grit rating companies use sometimes)
I feel like we should make sure that Pete knows this. the F400 FEPA stone on the TSProf he used for the Endela is more equivalent to about 1077 grit in Imperial. even the F150 Stone is worth about 227 grit American
Also 6000 chineese grit
@@mcsquirgle I've tried commenting in his other videos. Not sure what else to do. It's pretty damn important though.
@@jamesgosling4303 KME is just regular grit.
Don't ever say that you just "cut the rope"! Your spreadsheets and videos are amazing and have helped me very much!
“Look at this place. I’m talking a brick for f*cks sake.” 😂 I died.
Hi guy!
Thought I would give you a tip. You mentioned that your D-2 knives were rusting. I made knives as a Custom Maker for over 47 years, and have used a lot of other makers D-2 knives. I have never, so much as once had a Real D-2 knife rust. Ever! I have cleaned countless heads of game with D-2 knives from several makers. All high hardness, all well finished. Some of the top makers out there over the years.
Jimmy Lile. Bob Dozer, George Herron, and mine as well. All held an edge considerably better than any I've seen yot test in the steel. At 63+ it really shines! Yet I've tested a lot of Chinese D-2 knives and all but one we very non-impressive. Now were much better than 440-B or AUS-8 which are both terrible edgeholders
I notice that you keep your knives in a plastic divided container. You see, plastic causes moisture to concentrate and a much higher rate, particularly in a humid environment that say a dry wood, or cardboard.
It may very well be the container (tray you are keeping your knives in.
For those that do not know, also keeping your knives in a leather sheath or pouch can cause all kinds of damage. Leather is tanned using varying taningacids and these acids attack metal. Again, it is much worse in humid environments.
Very much enjoy your efforts in testing. Fine Work!!!
KnifeMaker/Retired
So maybe someone is not actually using D-2 but saying they do. That would come as no surprise considering where so many knives are coming from.
@@craigcarroll6161 Sadly ,there is a lot of supposed d2 that is not. Usually one of the low cost 8 series of stainless.
Proving that your role on the knife tubes is surely not in question. Simultaneously leading the community of brick communications and twisted sisal sacrifice. I know no other who is outstanding in their field, as the rest are indoors. Thank you.
Not sure Pete's out standing in his field; it's more of a smallholding.
The things Pete does just to give us "real world results" are crazy.
Thanks Pete!
"I talk to a brick for fucks sake"
That's why we come.
I'm still laughing at that comment 🤣
Every one of you videos lately has either been super informative or made me laugh really hard. Or both. Thank you
You are slaying it with content lately!
Working that shoulder.
What brings Bricky joy? Hobbies? Mrs Bricky? Briquettes?
Use of a green screen as a...green colored screen - this is ground breaking. Glad to see you back :) I appreciate you man.
Cheers Pete I knew I loved my k390 it's just nice to have confermation, tested results. Even if your going to be off again with rsi... Over 3000 cuts of twisted sisal rope, your wrist must be killing. Cheers for the sacrifice.
It good to see you sitting up higher now. I recently rewatched some older videos where you are basically level with the table and I can't imagine how much worse that was on your shoulder.
Good thing I grab the second hand Endela in K390 around 82 USD (converted). It can grab a hair even at lower grit which is really amazing
K390 is definitely my favorite steel. I have gotten some of my best edges with it.
Have to say that seki K390 is great stuff! Pretty easy to sharpen, holds an edge a long time, resistant to major damage when I do stupid shit with it. Glad to see some repeat testing against M390 / 20CV! Cheers! Although what I walk away with is also being really impressed with Magna-Cut as well.
Glad to see this. Only have one in K390 but was in Golden Co. visiting relatives & saw it in the case at Spyderco HQ. Just couldn't resist it.
Your local hardware store must be like “here comes the rope guy again”😂
I got my endura k390 blue a year ago and so far I’ve only had to strop it few times…
One of my favorites as well along with Magnacut and now 15v
I’m quite a fan of K390 too. I’ve only a couple, but I’m very likely to get more.
After watching the Magnacut and now this one on some K390 love. I was about half expecting to hear some Rocky ( Gonna fly now ) tunes playing while you were mixing it up your own rope-a-dope magic. Thank you from Ohio!
I don't know about anyone else but I had to turn the volume up to hear the talking, and then I got absolutely sonic blasted by the music :(
Great content, though, I love watching these experiments!
I used some cold bluing fluid on a pol.4 , made it look less menacing. If you want a little more than a little patina.
“I talk to a brick for fuck sakes.” That was hilarious 😂😂😂. You are the standard. Keep up the good work.
K390 is great! The Dragonfly 2 in this steel is my go-to low profile folder. I’m a big fan of tool steels. They have enough free chromium for decent corrosion resistance and feel crisper on the stones than stainless steels. Usually tougher too.
Mmmm, that was some quality faf!
You need to get HomeSlice to put a dual grit edge on K390 and see if it rivals MagnaCut!
I totally love your recent videos and I'm glad, that your back to the knife game 🤪
Fine vs coarse grit edges are super interesting to me, because they reflect real world use so well!
It's becoming more of a human endurance test than an edge retention test!! K390 is a great steel and I think you're right in that it tolerates some edge variability better than most premium steels. Great vid. Sharp blades all.
From one fellow knife nut to another, I greatly appreciate all the testing you do!!! Thanks !!
Easily the best knife channel
NGL, I bought a Stretch 2 (K390) because of your video you did with the Endela in K390. Thank you for all you do, I know it can be monotonous, but you do make a difference.
I respect seeing honesty, sharpness testing requires a set standard, and I understand sticking to your testing method. The higher polished edge will better resist corrosion and the buildup of sticky materials. Cutting rope is your testing standard, too late in the game to change now.
Self- diagnosis is a great thing. Brick diagnosis is transcendental.
Thanks for the vid, it helped me decide to pull the trigger and get me some K390. Which i absolutely love by the way, so thanks a ton :)
I got the endela in K390 because of you, and it’s become my favourite steel as well
Bricky is the smartest guy on your property mate!!!
I love k390 and Maxamet.I don't need anything with better edge retention I'm happy with both.
K390 is alao my favorite.
it etches verry dark.
if you get hands on a K390 N690 SanMai it looks so cool black and white, bites like crazy.
2:20 oh bricky
Thanks for another video man! Very enjoyable and useful content. Way to take one for the team!
Interesting test! I have one question: Could you tell me the thicknesses behind the edges? That might explain why(if the HT is the same) the Stretch outcut the Police. And it would be interesting to know in general. My guess is the Stretch is thinner behind the 17 dps edge.
I also have the Stretch 2 and I have to admit that I like K390, so far, more than M4, hen it comes to how it holds its edge and how it can be stropped back. If I would have to pick a sssteel for a knife like the Stretch or Endura, a work/test knife...it would be k390. Especially if it is ground thinner behind the edge.
Good video!
K390 is one of my favourite steels. Takes and holds a crazy edge, with no chipping. Even after some wear, its still kinda toothy.
K390 is my fav tool steel! Thanks for the video and info!
It’s one my favourites as well. I love K390 the edge lasts so long.
Its one of my favorite all around steels. A fried of mine really likes it as well, he's a well known knife maker.
Pete you’re a BEAST!
Now I'm excited about the k390 enuff 2 I pre-ordered even more :-)
I love k390 as well, currently have frn and G-10 police, endura and urban, used to have the PM2 delica and another urban but I cut way back! :)
I think a video on non diamond or cbn abrasive on k390 vs diamond abrasive would be a cool video but loved this video thanks for the content
We appreciate you sacrificing your body for cut tests.
Thanks for another great video. When I hit search on UA-cam, Cedric and Ada is always top of the pre populated list. Love your content.
So you’ve explored K390 performance variation with edge finish as applied to rope. Is it too much to hope for a repeat test but on onions? If time is a constraint then you might limit testing to the Endela, your primary onion knife. I’d be comfortable with extrapolating the results to other knives and other vegetables.
Pete, I've been using the "Dual Grit" 250 \ 1000 on my K390 PM2. Works great and appreciate you showing the dual grit in cut testing.
I may try gritty \ toothy edges as a next experiment. thanks for the video. : )
How is this man not having more subs?
Good stuff. I hadn't seen this channel before, but it was second after Beeze in the list of "other channels your viewers watch" in my UA-cam data thingy. Now I see why, silly videos about real stuff 😄
Ever tried k390 at 15 degrees per side or even less? Around 15 seems to be about the limit for k390 in my testing with dropping my angle much lower than that significantly reduced the edge retention. But I hand sharpen all my edges and don’t measure the angle exactly so these numbers for me are educated guesses. I always try to sharpen all my knives to produce the highest edge retention and slicing ease without worrying about how the edge looks so my edges are almost always 10-15 degrees per side depending on the steel. K390 is one of the only few I’ve not had good results with taking it lower than around 15 per side.
It just feels super fine, super stable, and overall really forgiving. Try a wharncliffe example, my delica is sick.
ordered one, can't wait to get it
Interesting result! Thanks for sharing that with us.
Brickie went pretty hard this week
Bricky got it right, and so did you, putting yourself threw all this grueling cutting so we don’t have to, thanks.
Thanks again, Pete, for another great cut test. I've got an Endela in K390 on order. You and Erica with notyouraverageEDC convinced me. I'm sending good vibes for your hands to heal up fast!
You're on a tear and I love it! I've never gotten anything in K390. At this point I doubt I will, but it seems nice.
Hey Pete would u believe I was just wondering what I was gunna watch and my mind was like I just want something relaxing like cedric and ada and poof u were the 1st video the algorithm sent when i opened up youtube. 👍👍👍 love your content man
Couldn’t agree more with the handle/ergonomics argument
Loving the videos as usual. I’d watch just about anything you post. Paint drying? Sign me up!
Another great video Pete, thanks 👍
I like the exotic composition of K390
You are awesome Pete!
You are a man version of k390!
Fantastic! Thanks for the tip! Been trying to get my sweatpants to stay up on my waist for years and they keep slipping down
IMHO...
1K cut club gooo!!!
Now I wonder if one if those knives has a dual edge similar to that previous Magnacut video would that boost that 1000 cuts to a similar number to magnacut or not ?
I've just started watching your videos (3 so far) and I dig em, love how you put your knives through the wringer to see what they can do. I too enjoy a good K390 and you've somewhat relieved my fears that my knives in that steel aren't gonna rust out on me lol, patina I like, rust not so much. Anyways thanks for the content and please keep cutting shit. 🔪
Wow bro what a great collection of knives! Honestly there is no perfect way to do edge retention tests, but in this manner, it certainly looks like it's easier on ya AND I HOPE IT IS SO! Good luck to ya you absolute legend of a Man!
Thanks Pete. Sorry to see you are down to just one functioning thumb. I guess hitchhiking is now just half the career choice it used to be for you…
Maybe what cuts paper the best is a microserrated edge. If a toothier edge retains microserrations longer than a mirror edge, you will end up with the result shown in the video.
I’m talking to a brick for f*cks sake. 😂😂😂
Looks like bricky’s got a bit of a soul patch going on there
sweet test. ❤ appreciate consideration for grit tests.
Love me some K390 hotness!!!❤
Seki k390 is beautifully easy to sharpen
I think Bricky just explained a lot about myself as well.
Bricky has no chill at all 💀
I'm a big fan of high end tool steels like Cruwear, M4, and 15V, but still haven't gotten any knives in k390. I really want to try it out but the lockback folders Spyderco uses it on just aren't for me.
Good stuff.
While LC200N is my favorite K390 is a close second.
Have you tested any vanadis 8. Was glancing around at chemistry and the knife steel nerds charts. Looks like it should perform like a tougher k390.
what the music when u cutting?
I'd love to see some comparison to other manufacturers' K390, but it's not a common steel. Only other option I'm aware of is from Lionsteel who've been quite well known for running their M390 softer than average, but I don't know if that applies to any of their other steels or not.
I'm looking forward to getting my hands on the Spyderco Enuff 2 in K390 when it comes out later this year.
Kinda want a Stretch 2 XL in K390 or Magnacut, but the pricing on those particular models are FAR higher than what makes sense to me right now (the CruWear model that's been released is just under 2.5X the price of the VG10 model, both of which are made in the Seki factory).
The problem with lionsteel is the protocol. They dont use liquid nitrogen. They get 60rc in spec but its poor performance because of how its heat treated. Rc numbers are mostly bs unless there is context with it. Lionsteel could raise it to 62rc or even 64rc but with that same protocol it's not going to perform well regardless. Watch microstructure matters. You'll learn a few things. Though there's a lot more involved than what's discussed in that video.
I have a stupid question. Did you strop the 400 grit after sharpening? I usually only sharpen up to 600 and then strip both sides.
Bonus dogs! Nice
Endela or stretch in terms of ergonomics?
Love the channel!
Cheers!
Keeping it real. Love it!
will you test the spyderco leafjumper?
Pete, what's the backing track for the cut test? I assume it's from a JRPG, but I can't find it. Help a guy out?
I really wanna try K390 but I only buy knives with 4 inch blades and up. The police 4 is the only knife that covers that requirement from me and its long out of production.
I'm wondering if its worth hunting for one and if K390 will even replace 4V as a favorite steel for me.
Also there is the upcoming Spyderco Enuff 4 in K390 coming out so that's something to look forward too
You are bonkers, love it .
Well.. I was told I had high functioning assholism 😂
Cool steel to test 👍