Quick Update: - Correction: FiLMiC Pro does not support external recording. - With the Blackmagic camera App, you can save your camera settings as presets! - You can also record LUTs into the clip.
Didn’t know that, thanks for sharing.How did find out the bitrate it shoots on thr BMCA? Woulf be great to dial the bitrate like in FiLMiC Pro. Hope they’ll add that in the futrue
Another very good comparison Bennett. Black Magic Camera app should win best camera app of the year - hands down. Hats off to them and their commitment to implementing user requests.
I've been using the Black magic app ever since it came out. I also have an annual subscription to Filmic Pro. But the option of saving the footage on an external storage medium on my iPhone 13 Pro Max has a decisive advantage with 128 GB. I'm very happy with it. This excellent video has confirmed my opinion. Thank you very much for this perfect comparison. 🙏👌👋
Thanks! Yes totally with only 128GB being able to record externally is an absolute game changer and the workflow is a lso much smoother being able to just plug the ssd into your computer and edit it from there.
question. I have 14 pro max. So it is possible to record to external ssd with Back Magic App? I thought it only worked with iphone 15 pro because of the USB-C connection. Meaning the lighting on 13 pro or 14 pro is too slow to transfer the data over the Camera connection kit to an external ssd. Can you clarify?
I bought the Filmic Pro Legacy version. it works well. unfortunately, I don't have the latest iPhone, but I use Galaxy s22 and video is perfect(using gimbals). Filmic Pro took a pretty long time to understand the details because the reviewers do not have teaching education. some of them are good, but the Filmic pro guy is great with his sweet clear voice. To explain something, everybody has to go slow so that the audience can capture and digest it, but most of them go so fast that they are running toward the washroom to release themselves.
Good comparison :) Since the BM Camera-app is so new, and looking at BM’s history of delivering features in DVResolve, I’m guessing most (or all) of the features mentioned here will make it’s eay into the camera app sooner rather than later, as well as an android app - the lack of a split reticle for white balance and focus had me confused for a moment, coming from the Filmic legacy app, but I also found the solution you mentioned to work fine, it just sort of feels like I don’t have full control - having the option to set the focus area to center frame, and large like in filmic, and just tune the iso, wb, tint manually would give a better feeling of control - since I’m filming myself it’s hard to first set the focus by tapping, then adjusting, and hoping the focus is working - but these are minor issues that will come if enough people talk about them :)
Thanks for the Comparison Bennett! It seems like the Black Magic App can do almost Everything you would need as a Smartphone Filmmaker! Filmic Pro is definitely gonna have to Adapt or lose a Ton of Users!
As a walking example of an "amateur", I really prefer 'Dolby Vision' for much of my vacation videography. I have the necessary hardware/software to work with the ProResLog, but the 'normal' complaints about saturation and contrast fall on deaf ears. The good news is I can bounce out of black magic into the native camera app for when I really want an HDR capture of a scene.
I bought FilmicPro years ago. I use it rarely, so there is no way to justify a subscription licence for me. BCA on the other hand allows me to learn about the creative use of my iPhone without continuous payments.
Filmic Pro, After selecting the focus point But if there is anything in the middle or near the camera will focus on that point instead. Even if the object are not in the focus zone. I think focus Area is broader than the frame shows.
Hello Bennett I have a question about FilmicPro. I can no longer find my old clips from before switching to Filmic Legacy, neither in iCloud nor on my iPhone 13. Were the clips automatically deleted? Maybe you can tell me something about that! LG Walter
I guarantee you apple’s going to release an iCamera device that looks just like the iPhone without actual being a phone. Slightly thicker, crazy sensor & even better cameras that take up nearly half the back of the device. $1,899.99 and I would just love to own one.
ive been dreaming of this for so long… but i dont think they are interested in the camera or yet… their motto is incorporate important things beautifully to help with daily life easier for humans… hence they try to achieve what mirrorless camera could do within a smartphone instead of people bringing digital cameras around… other than spotify this is part of the reason why ipod died.. ipod and mp3 players does not have their specialty any more
Haven’t gotten the free Blackmagic Cloud to work, needs the an upgraded plan to create a cloud project… The other apps I keep on my radar are Moment Camera, CinemaP3, and Beastcam.
Saving profiles sounds so nice but I didn’t realize I could lock the exp then auto focus, black magic feels flimsy and easy to mess up, with a 10gb per minute file
I've been researching camera apps lately. I've installed the Black Magic Camera app because everyone says it's good, but it doesn't seem to autofocus when taking close-ups. I think I'm more comfortable with the original camera app for taking videos, but am I doing something wrong?
I choose filmic pro as it has the remote function whereby i can view and record myself in another devices. I can choose the bitrate for my recording as BM can't. Aside that, i can shoot log using it since BM only support iPhone 15. It's better i get the filmic pro app at a price lower than getting the high pricing iphone 15...
I honestly really hope black magic doesn’t make their app have a subscription!! This is super good! Especially for someone who just wants to start off with filmmaking!
Hi fellow creators, new comer here, is there a splitter / adaptor which allows recording to an external SSD whilst recording audio on the Rode Mic system ??
Ich finde Abo- oder Kaufmodelle absolut in Ordnung. Es ist doch nur eine Frage der Zeit, bis die Blackmagic App nach der Abwerbung von Nutzern anderer Apps auch Geld kosten wird. Und umsonst ist nunmal nichts. Vorteil der BM-App: 10bit-Farbspektrum und HDR bei auch 50 und 60 fps. Vorteil FP: Übersichtlichkeit und Lesbarkeit der Einstellungen bei heller Umgebung. Der Rest ist ähnlich und intuitiv.
Blackmagic makes some of the best consumer model cinematography cameras. So give them some time to update their IOS and android apps and I think filmic will be obsolete. I think it will come down to blackmagic and MotionCam.
Really love your videos .. Watching your videos all days before starting a outdoors and camping related channel… I am using iphone 12 pro max … I do not have a plan to buy any expensive camera recently … hope to buy a Gopro 12 withn 2/3 months… Brother do you have any suggestion to me about video making?
Awesome! The key to picking up mobile filmmaking quickly is to shoot and experiment a ton - just keep at it. Most importantly, enjoy the whole process! :)
I like Filmic Pro, but that price is just too high. Especially when Blackmagic Camera is free forever. Not to mention, I really hate subscriptions. Right now, the only reason I'd even consider Filmic Pro is because Blackmagic haven't offered the app for Android, which I think is a massive oversight.
For some reason, when briefly starting and stopping recording with the Blackmagic app, I was getting slightly different frame rates, from 23.98, 24, and 25fps which caused editing issues, which I was able to eventually fix. Am searching for a reason for this. Ideas?
When using Blackmagic with iPhone 15 Pro Max at 4K60fps, I am constantly getting a flash red warning. Does anyone else have this issue when using the app? I want to change to Blackmagic, but this is prohibitive..
You can save the luts to your icloud and then through the LUT settings in the BMC app you can select import and go to the folder where you saved your LUTs on your icloud.
Yeah, with a lot of additional hardware. It wasn't exactly shot with iPhones in hands. See video titled "Behind the scenes: An Apple Event shot on iPhone" to see some of the additional hardware used. Saying it was shot with iPhone is similar to claiming something is shot with RED camera body without any accessories.
It sucks that they went to a subscription model. I'm glad I purchased before they went that way, but it took a while for them to fix Legacy. A shame, since before they went to the subscription model, they updated Filmic Labs, which gave me 6k60 in 10Bit LOG color... on my Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro. Yeah, my cheap, midrange three year old cameraphone gets smooth 10bit 6k60 where my other phones are limited to 4k or 8k30. A quirk of the sensor I haven't been able to replicate on any other phone yet. I want to see if the new v7 can extract similar performance from newer models, but I'm finding the price a bit steep, especially since videography is a secondary thing for me, and not my main focus (photography).
On my legacy Filmic Pro, I can shoot log on my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Can’t do this on black magic that I know of. Wonder why that doesn’t exist on black magic for my 13 Pro Max when it did on the legacy Filmic Pro app.
I mean...Filmic Pro would have to do some pretty amazing stuff to justify their horrendous pricing model. I would put up with a lot to avoid a subscription. I actually think BlackMagic is better just on features, but price basically puts them in another league. I mean, there is probably a reason that Apple themselves not only chose BMC over Filmic for their event, but they also said they worked with their team behind the scenes...I mean, you can't get a better company to vouch for your app. I also see BMC pushing updates really quickly, and adding a lot of features. I just hope that BMC brings gimbal support and remote monitoring, that would be super nice.
Filmic Pro is a liar. I paid money before, but now it has been changed to a subscription system. Basic functions cannot be used. So what should I do with the money I paid?
If you bought the full pro version, you should be able to download it. I still have it on my phone as the legacy model. At least I think that’s how it works.
There is a usable version, but it has not been updated for a long time and has been abandoned. Many new functions are no longer available, at least in China. I don’t know how other countries handle it.@@scottkint
You can still get what you paid for and for free. You can't get what you didn't pay for but that seems reasonable to me. Filmic should have renamed V7 onwards as a new product which would have stopped all the hissy fits from those who want a life long free product !
Quick Update:
- Correction: FiLMiC Pro does not support external recording.
- With the Blackmagic camera App, you can save your camera settings as presets!
- You can also record LUTs into the clip.
"With the Blackmagic camera App, you can save your camera settings as presets". With Filmic it is also possible. See "Presets".
Just want to say I love your channel and your content. It’s very useful and informative. You are truly amazing Bennett 👏🏿
I appreciate that!
I can't wait for black magic app to come on Android.
It will surley come :)
A huge difference it’s the bitrate. 130mb/s in filmic and les than 40mb/s in the blackmagic app.
Didn’t know that, thanks for sharing.How did find out the bitrate it shoots on thr BMCA? Woulf be great to dial the bitrate like in FiLMiC Pro. Hope they’ll add that in the futrue
Another very good comparison Bennett. Black Magic Camera app should win best camera app of the year - hands down. Hats off to them and their commitment to implementing user requests.
I agree
I've been using the Black magic app ever since it came out.
I also have an annual subscription to Filmic Pro. But the option of saving the footage on an external storage medium on my iPhone 13 Pro Max has a decisive advantage with 128 GB.
I'm very happy with it.
This excellent video has confirmed my opinion.
Thank you very much for this perfect comparison. 🙏👌👋
Thanks! Yes totally with only 128GB being able to record externally is an absolute game changer and the workflow is a lso much smoother being able to just plug the ssd into your computer and edit it from there.
question. I have 14 pro max. So it is possible to record to external ssd with Back Magic App? I thought it only worked with iphone 15 pro because of the USB-C connection. Meaning the lighting on 13 pro or 14 pro is too slow to transfer the data over the Camera connection kit to an external ssd. Can you clarify?
I bought the Filmic Pro Legacy version. it works well. unfortunately, I don't have the latest iPhone, but I use Galaxy s22 and video is perfect(using gimbals). Filmic Pro took a pretty long time to understand the details because the reviewers do not have teaching education. some of them are good, but the Filmic pro guy is great with his sweet clear voice. To explain something, everybody has to go slow so that the audience can capture and digest it, but most of them go so fast that they are running toward the washroom to release themselves.
Thanks for sharing!
I just delete the Filmic Pro app
Me too
Well done.
Good comparison :) Since the BM Camera-app is so new, and looking at BM’s history of delivering features in DVResolve, I’m guessing most (or all) of the features mentioned here will make it’s eay into the camera app sooner rather than later, as well as an android app - the lack of a split reticle for white balance and focus had me confused for a moment, coming from the Filmic legacy app, but I also found the solution you mentioned to work fine, it just sort of feels like I don’t have full control - having the option to set the focus area to center frame, and large like in filmic, and just tune the iso, wb, tint manually would give a better feeling of control - since I’m filming myself it’s hard to first set the focus by tapping, then adjusting, and hoping the focus is working - but these are minor issues that will come if enough people talk about them :)
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I agree eventually these updates wilk come to the BMC app at some point 🤔
I started using it today, the video is so smooth you don’t even need a gimbal.
Happy to hear that
Hi bro nice video but is there any app in apple where we switch front to rear and rear to front in recording
Black magic does
Thank you for this tips!
Any time!
Thanks for the Comparison Bennett! It seems like the Black Magic App can do almost Everything you would need as a Smartphone Filmmaker! Filmic Pro is definitely gonna have to Adapt or lose a Ton of Users!
Thanks a lot! I agree 👍🏻
I’m a one man production so filmic legacy is a good option coz it still has that remote control functionality
Yeah their remote app is great
As a walking example of an "amateur", I really prefer 'Dolby Vision' for much of my vacation videography. I have the necessary hardware/software to work with the ProResLog, but the 'normal' complaints about
saturation and contrast fall on deaf ears. The good news is I can bounce out of black magic into the
native camera app for when I really want an HDR capture of a scene.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts 💯
I bought FilmicPro years ago. I use it rarely, so there is no way to justify a subscription licence for me. BCA on the other hand allows me to learn about the creative use of my iPhone without continuous payments.
Thanks for sharing, absolutely 👍🏻
Can you please tell why are you having the camera's ( phones) to shoot at the same time ? why is that needed ?
Great comparison! Keep up the good work 👌
Thanks! 👍
Filmic Pro, After selecting the focus point But if there is anything in the middle or near the camera will focus on that point instead. Even if the object are not in the focus zone. I think focus Area is broader than the frame shows.
I'm started consuming this channel since 3 days... mmm its good n informative for my 1st travel vlog ...
Thanks! Happy this channel helps :)
Does it take pictures?
No just for video
Hello Bennett
I have a question about FilmicPro. I can no longer find my old clips from before switching to Filmic Legacy, neither in iCloud nor on my iPhone 13. Were the clips automatically deleted? Maybe you can tell me something about that!
LG Walter
I guarantee you apple’s going to release an iCamera device that looks just like the iPhone without actual being a phone. Slightly thicker, crazy sensor & even better cameras that take up nearly half the back of the device. $1,899.99 and I would just love to own one.
ive been dreaming of this for so long… but i dont think they are interested in the camera or yet… their motto is incorporate important things beautifully to help with daily life easier for humans… hence they try to achieve what mirrorless camera could do within a smartphone instead of people bringing digital cameras around… other than spotify this is part of the reason why ipod died.. ipod and mp3 players does not have their specialty any more
Which one you're using in this video
Haven’t gotten the free Blackmagic Cloud to work, needs the an upgraded plan to create a cloud project…
The other apps I keep on my radar are Moment Camera, CinemaP3, and Beastcam.
Yes, me too it doesn’t seem to work in my country
Saving profiles sounds so nice but I didn’t realize I could lock the exp then auto focus, black magic feels flimsy and easy to mess up, with a 10gb per minute file
Can you IRL Live Stream with either app to Twitch? The Picture in Picture options would be great to stream.
Thank you Black Magic! WE LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!! 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
Yesss!
I've been researching camera apps lately.
I've installed the Black Magic Camera app because everyone says it's good, but it doesn't seem to autofocus when taking close-ups.
I think I'm more comfortable with the original camera app for taking videos, but am I doing something wrong?
You can also tap to focus on the BMC if you locked the exposure :)
I love your videos. Thank you. It is very informative.
Glad you like them!
I already downloaded, but how can I use the front camera? I can’t see the option.
On the top left corner you have your lens picker. Tap on it and you will be able to select your lenses :).
@@BenettGraezer thanks i saw but every time i click the record button it doesnt record a video but take a picture instead😂
@@BenettGraezeri got it now because i turned on the timelapse😂😂😂 thanks I can use it now.
I choose filmic pro as it has the remote function whereby i can view and record myself in another devices. I can choose the bitrate for my recording as BM can't. Aside that, i can shoot log using it since BM only support iPhone 15. It's better i get the filmic pro app at a price lower than getting the high pricing iphone 15...
Nice video , tell the best app for android
Thanks!
I honestly really hope black magic doesn’t make their app have a subscription!! This is super good! Especially for someone who just wants to start off with filmmaking!
Hope so too!
Is Black magic available for Android phone?
Yes 👍🏻
Hi fellow creators, new comer here, is there a splitter / adaptor which allows recording to an external SSD whilst recording audio on the Rode Mic system ??
Sorry, forgot to mention for 15 Pro Max - USB-C
It is not available in play store
No the bmc app currently not
No Android app?
Ich finde Abo- oder Kaufmodelle absolut in Ordnung. Es ist doch nur eine Frage der Zeit, bis die Blackmagic App nach der Abwerbung von Nutzern anderer Apps auch Geld kosten wird. Und umsonst ist nunmal nichts. Vorteil der BM-App: 10bit-Farbspektrum und HDR bei auch 50 und 60 fps. Vorteil FP: Übersichtlichkeit und Lesbarkeit der Einstellungen bei heller Umgebung. Der Rest ist ähnlich und intuitiv.
Vielen Dank für dein Input! Da stimme ich dir absolut zu 👍🏻
Ich finds schade das die BM App nicht für Android auch ist...
Helpful, thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Blackmagic makes some of the best consumer model cinematography cameras. So give them some time to update their IOS and android apps and I think filmic will be obsolete. I think it will come down to blackmagic and MotionCam.
Really love your videos ..
Watching your videos all days before starting a outdoors and camping related channel…
I am using iphone 12 pro max …
I do not have a plan to buy any expensive camera recently … hope to buy a Gopro 12 withn 2/3 months…
Brother do you have any suggestion to me about video making?
dji is better then gopro
Awesome! The key to picking up mobile filmmaking quickly is to shoot and experiment a ton - just keep at it. Most importantly, enjoy the whole process! :)
@@BenettGraezer your words will be my structure … thank you so much sir 😍
I like Filmic Pro, but that price is just too high. Especially when Blackmagic Camera is free forever. Not to mention, I really hate subscriptions. Right now, the only reason I'd even consider Filmic Pro is because Blackmagic haven't offered the app for Android, which I think is a massive oversight.
Yea i agree
For some reason, when briefly starting and stopping recording with the Blackmagic app, I was getting slightly different frame rates, from 23.98, 24, and 25fps which caused editing issues, which I was able to eventually fix. Am searching for a reason for this. Ideas?
When using Blackmagic with iPhone 15 Pro Max at 4K60fps, I am constantly getting a flash red warning. Does anyone else have this issue when using the app? I want to change to Blackmagic, but this is prohibitive..
U can’t use a gimbal with black magic?
Filmic pro does not support recording to external hard drive
Thx for pointing that out 👍🏻
Any gen Ai free?
Black Magic estar perfeito 👍
Its awesome 👍🏻
Brother God bless you always pray for you love your videos brother assaali from Kenya Mombasa Africa
Thank you!
Wow am gonna try it I guess
Yes definitely give it a try :)
If Blackmagic create a watch app, it would be great.
Absolutely!
please make a tutorial on how to transfer luts to the phone
You can save the luts to your icloud and then through the LUT settings in the BMC app you can select import and go to the folder where you saved your LUTs on your icloud.
Fimic pro best camra for cinemtic video ❤
Fun fact: Apple’s Scary Fast was shot on an iPhone 15 Pro via Blackmagic Cam.
Yeah, with a lot of additional hardware. It wasn't exactly shot with iPhones in hands. See video titled "Behind the scenes: An Apple Event shot on iPhone" to see some of the additional hardware used.
Saying it was shot with iPhone is similar to claiming something is shot with RED camera body without any accessories.
It sucks that they went to a subscription model. I'm glad I purchased before they went that way, but it took a while for them to fix Legacy.
A shame, since before they went to the subscription model, they updated Filmic Labs, which gave me 6k60 in 10Bit LOG color... on my Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro.
Yeah, my cheap, midrange three year old cameraphone gets smooth 10bit 6k60 where my other phones are limited to 4k or 8k30. A quirk of the sensor I haven't been able to replicate on any other phone yet. I want to see if the new v7 can extract similar performance from newer models, but I'm finding the price a bit steep, especially since videography is a secondary thing for me, and not my main focus (photography).
i bought filmic pro everthing 2 years ago now to use the same things i need additional subscription wtf. can i sue them from Norway?
Filmic pro does not support timecode either
Yes 👍🏻
and Now it's also available on android Phones (adding new phones & tablets every update)...
Thanks for mentioning the update 👍🏻
On my legacy Filmic Pro, I can shoot log on my iPhone 13 Pro Max. Can’t do this on black magic that I know of. Wonder why that doesn’t exist on black magic for my 13 Pro Max when it did on the legacy Filmic Pro app.
It can now
@@Jon8ight is it automatic? because there’s no setting in my app for such; that I can find anyway?
@@scottkint not a setting but it’s a lut
F Filmic Pro. I don’t want to pay ransom every month or year. I want to own my app.
Agree
I can't find the blackmagic camera app on play store
Its currently only available for ios
ProMovie 👍
I mean...Filmic Pro would have to do some pretty amazing stuff to justify their horrendous pricing model. I would put up with a lot to avoid a subscription. I actually think BlackMagic is better just on features, but price basically puts them in another league.
I mean, there is probably a reason that Apple themselves not only chose BMC over Filmic for their event, but they also said they worked with their team behind the scenes...I mean, you can't get a better company to vouch for your app. I also see BMC pushing updates really quickly, and adding a lot of features.
I just hope that BMC brings gimbal support and remote monitoring, that would be super nice.
Thanks for sharing and good points!
Filmic Pro is a liar. I paid money before, but now it has been changed to a subscription system. Basic functions cannot be used. So what should I do with the money I paid?
If you bought the full pro version, you should be able to download it. I still have it on my phone as the legacy model. At least I think that’s how it works.
There is a usable version, but it has not been updated for a long time and has been abandoned. Many new functions are no longer available, at least in China. I don’t know how other countries handle it.@@scottkint
You can still get what you paid for and for free. You can't get what you didn't pay for but that seems reasonable to me. Filmic should have renamed V7 onwards as a new product which would have stopped all the hissy fits from those who want a life long free product !
@@OrchidHunter it was a little bit of a bait & switch the way they worded it. That being said, when the company was sold, all bets were off.
Thông tin hay
Thank you!
If something require a subscription it's an instant Hell NO!
I'm not a huge fan either, but I've got subscriptions like Adobe Suite that I use a lot and definitely get my money's worth in value and ROI.
I'm 100% against subscription etc. I want to own the software. Not just borrow it and pay for it for years. @@BenettGraezer
2:00 😂
RIP Filmic Pro
Today Filmic’s Entire Staff Laid Off by Parent Company Bending Spoons
I would understand 😅
❤❤❤❤
Thanks!
Filmic pro is Anti-consumer
Thanks for the advice I really appreciate it 👍🏼👍🏼💚🤍🩶
Any time!
Please we want video to explain vlog with iphone 15 pro max and gamble
All people searching this topic
Thanks for your suggestion, is noted :)