Just make sure to have a good blanket of continuous insulation outside the sheathing. Steel studs are huge thermal bridges. The other problem is they are more expensive as most residential contractors don’t have experience with them, the materials are more, and the engineering is more involved. They _are_ a good option though, but you have to know how and when to use them. They also get you really straight walls.
I was thinking the same thing. If I were to blame anything it would be slab on grade construction that puts the organic material, wood, so close to the soil.
These are Formosan termites, they do not use mud tunnels, you are thinking of subterranean termites, two different species, the first being MUCH more destructive and harder to spot, since they just move into your house!
@@bettysmith4527 I know your comment is old but just fyi Formosans do still build mud tubes to get inside the house, they just don’t have to return back to ground after building a carton inside the wall. So often by the time you know you have a Formosan infestation the mud tubes are gone.
@@AyeLimiTz What do you recommend? I am in the midst of trying to see which termite company to go with and I am so obsessed with termite videos right now I cannot even work. I feel nervous and frustrated. I live in NC.
Spray foam can be used anywhere with proper use. Termites travel in a pattern form thought. Termite inspection should be done every year. Main areas of concern is tubs showers , faucets and kitchen areas. Make sure there are no water leaks on the outside of the home and proper drainage of downspouts. There is 2 types of spray foam 1 is open cell which let's air/ liquids/ moisture to pass through while 2 closed cell foam keeps water and air out so good luck finding water leaks. Also thermal imaging doesn't work very well with either of the foams.
Spray insulation is really good keeping homes insulated...i dont think foam has anything to do with termites...by video, it seems this home was already infested by termites.
These homes would’ve been infested with or without foam insulation. The pest control contractor was not doing what they were paid to do. The ground must be treated before construction and a routine treatment as per pesticide manufacturers guidelines. Bait traps annually installed and check are a must in certain areas. It doesn’t matter what type of insulation you have period. Termites will get in and destroy wood if their not stopped. Very little or no pesticides were used to prevent this.
A termite company may treat the property correctly but contractor could have ruin the treatment or homeowner disturb the treated area. There could be many factors.
These are Formosan termites, nothing you put in the ground is going to kill them, they live in wood. You are think of subterranean termites which are an issue throughout the USA, but much easier to spot since they rely on mud tunnels once they leave the ground.
@@Mr.Monta77 DUHHH, CO2 is plant food necessary for our survival and is less .001 of the atmosphere. Amazing how so many are conned. The no. 1 greenhouse gas is water vapor which is a 1000's of times greater than CO2,what do you want to do, dry out all the air, lol. No one has common sense anymore or think, they are just told what to think. I hope they make mega tons more CO2 so the plants make me more O2
Drywall also hides termites. Moisture control is the single most important part of preventing termites. Spray foam has nothing to do with it. EFIS stucco is much worse on a home
So it's not really about the spray foam then, spray foamed or not, if there's termite in your home, they will eat your wood and you won't notice it not unless your wood foundation and supports are all well exposed for everyone's eyes to see.
As a termite inspector, spray foam makes it very difficult to examine the wood framing. With regular insulation, I can easily lift it up to examine the wood. It's literally impossible to do with spray foam without destroying the foam
@@chirina5 if its encapsulated up to the frame, then it could be hiding termites. If i can peel back the encap enough to see the frames all good, then i think you will be safe as long as you get an annual inspection.
Spray urethane is also not great for the environment. It's one of those materials which lasts hundreds to thousands of years and it's life as a construction material is far less then that. I would hope it's important to this news agency to talk about alternatives like rockwool, which may be more expensive to install but it works as good or better than urethane foam and is biodegradable.
The story at the end said that the foam allows the termites to make tunnels in the house that aren't detectable. I guess it makes it easier for them to occupy a home
I think the argument is that the foam allows for easy movement throughout the structure allowing for increased damage while also making termites harder to detect. That's the difference.
@@jdub2878 Easier movement than fiberglass or other common insulation materials, which they wouldn't even have to chew through? None of this report makes sense in requards to pointing the finger at spray foam. There are so many other variables that are 100% more to blame than spray foam. I understand what they mean or intend to suggest. I also understand how spray foam actually performs in a home. The good and the bad. It's what I do. With that said, this story is misleading and bogus, and potentially damaging to the spray foam industry.
America's dummy building technology - when I lived in Central Europe I have never heard of home insurance because there was no wood used in home construction
Famosin Termites do not need moisture to survive, they actually live and nest in dry wood, which can be within your home. They have veracious appetites and have higher numbers than a subterranean termite nest, which is underground.
coastal homes made of wood? That is just a bad idea in general. Unless you live in the northern states, your home should be ICF (insulated concrete forms) or at minimum concrete block... Even in a northern state, ICF is much better than any other current materials.
@@ToOpen6seven Most new homes in the south are made from concrete cinder blocks that are stacked and then filled with concrete so the structure is strong enough for hurricanes and won't be destroyed by flooding. Worst case scenario is the house interior is demo'ed and then refinished, but the walls stay intact.
My question is was they doing the year inspection and retreat of the liquid like they were supposed to or did they use the bait stations if so that the problem Dayan should be ashamed of her self for trying to scare people
First, you need different building material, OTHER THAN REGULAR WOOD, to build with if you live in termite areas. You will need steel, concrete or completely TREATED wood throughout your home! That has NOTHING to do with the spray foam! Termites DO NOT EAT spray foam! They just tunnel through it, but if you have termites, the fact that you have them in the first place is your major issue. The problem is that termite treatment companies are used to doing the bare minimum! They squirt some pesticide and that's it, in some cases. When they FIRST detect a problem, they should be out there with thermal imaging, WHICH STILL WORKS EVEN IF YOU HAVE SPRAY FOAM, to figure out how bad the infestation is! People need to be smarter about their homes and not trust these companies. Get yourself a IR thermal meter off of eBay. If your wall shows heat inside versus other walls, you know something is in there that warrants a look. Bees, termites and ants all generate heat when they swarm. That will tell you how bad of a problem you have. Do that when you're looking at a home too! Do your due diligence.
Pest companies hire young people who dont have the interest to treat well they halfass their job. I just discovered termites and im not sure what i will do next
if all the other tradesmen and contractors are telling the homeowner NOT TO USE spray foam insulation, DONT USE IT! Carpenters hate spray foam as it ruins good quality wood. HVACs dont lke it because it causes filters in the evaporators to gum up with foam bits and not only that can cause a pain in the ass to add new wiring or piping when servicing the heat pumps. Electricians definitely dont like spray foam as they cant find proper electrical piping as the whole damn interior walls are covered in this crap. How can they find the original wiring or make new wiring around the house? The Data/internet companies dont like em because the insulation also causes siginal loss and to add wiring, they cant get in between the walls as well. Do not use spray foam insulation FFS.
Built a house two years ago. I was told it was a superior product. I have so much regret. I have a brand new home, built on pest heaven, apparently. I'm seeing termites.
builders should have installed aluminum flashing on foundation then built with treated lumber. If they used fir and didnt seal outside well then wood gets wet and that is an open invitation for termites
@@curliefro we have multilayer walls: external finished by ceramic tiles, inside bricks, insulating panels, bricks and internal finished by wood panels all assembled around concrete harmed structure, the homes are made for resist up one hundred years
What does the foam have to do with termites. The reporter chose a title to make this report sound bigger than it is? WHY? Local news stations trying to be relevant by twisting a story. Did this story get pushed down from corporate State propaganda TV FoxNews? Follow the money. Only Pest Control Services getting the law suits. So, did pest control srv pay for this story to sway public opinion and therefore sway politicians to change building codes and insurance regulations eliminate the competition by foam? But this reporter needs to get right. This story should have been about termite population / prevention, considering trade offs between energy cost savings vs termite control, understanding your insurance needs and liability exposure when choosing foam, pest control srvs., or choosing wood vs metal stubs. Why not sue the wood stud manufacturer, or the builder? Who does the homeowner with fiberglass or ICF blown in insulation that used the same pest control service sue? Foam is no longer an excuse, so who due you sue? The report didn't really explain the issue. The only law suites are with pest control services who have methods for detecting termites but do not want work a little harder or purchase the necessary equipment to detect termites within foam or inside any type of wall or building material. Yes with foam you cant just insert a tube sprayer and get coverage. The home owner will have to accept the cost of opening the wall, cutting out the foam, before you spray. But they should think of that as part of their building plans. Lower heating and cooling costs vs. the possibility of termites. Its hard to fight termites regardless. When they are in the studs you cant see them or spray them. Spray wont help until they come out of the wood. Fog treatment is best and should enter into the tunnels made in the wood or foam. Once termites hit the cost to repair is the same costs.
This is literally lame. You found some article and blew it out of proportion. So now some people won't use spray foam. Which is hands down one of the top ways to reduce your energy usage. This sucked, you are I'll informed and hungry for any kind of story. Worse than that you presented it in a manner that made it scary all so you could get views. This is a prime example of what is wrong with some news reporting
Holy uneducated Dana! The spray foam has nothing to do with this problem what so ever! It has to do with the contractor that completed the exterior of the structure. What a pointless segment.
If you live in an area where termites are a serious problem, then you should consider using steel framing instead of lumber to build your home.
John Nelson good for the environment and a boom in the steel industry and more jobs plus safer homes
The problem is anything below Canada is a good place for termites to grow
That statement makes too much sense, Americans won't listen.
Just make sure to have a good blanket of continuous insulation outside the sheathing. Steel studs are huge thermal bridges. The other problem is they are more expensive as most residential contractors don’t have experience with them, the materials are more, and the engineering is more involved. They _are_ a good option though, but you have to know how and when to use them. They also get you really straight walls.
Wow great tip for all the people who live in a home that is already built.
It’s rubbish blaming spray foam. Why not blame the plasterboard or dry wall. That hides everything.
Happy
I was thinking the same thing. If I were to blame anything it would be slab on grade construction that puts the organic material, wood, so close to the soil.
Exactly
It literally explained why in the video.
Termites go unseen in every house spray foam or not...I always check my foundation for mud tubes.
And yet they didnt even mention that simple way to check…
These are Formosan termites, they do not use mud tunnels, you are thinking of subterranean termites, two different species, the first being MUCH more destructive and harder to spot, since they just move into your house!
@@bettysmith4527 I know your comment is old but just fyi Formosans do still build mud tubes to get inside the house, they just don’t have to return back to ground after building a carton inside the wall. So often by the time you know you have a Formosan infestation the mud tubes are gone.
@@AyeLimiTz yikes!
@@AyeLimiTz What do you recommend? I am in the midst of trying to see which termite company to go with and I am so obsessed with termite videos right now I cannot even work. I feel nervous and frustrated. I live in NC.
Next week's hot breaking story, "Family photos, nice memories or termite shields?"
Spray foam can be used anywhere with proper use. Termites travel in a pattern form thought. Termite inspection should be done every year. Main areas of concern is tubs showers , faucets and kitchen areas. Make sure there are no water leaks on the outside of the home and proper drainage of downspouts. There is 2 types of spray foam 1 is open cell which let's air/ liquids/ moisture to pass through while 2 closed cell foam keeps water and air out so good luck finding water leaks. Also thermal imaging doesn't work very well with either of the foams.
Sheetrock keeps people from spotting termites, too. Silly report.
Spray insulation is really good keeping homes insulated...i dont think foam has anything to do with termites...by video, it seems this home was already infested by termites.
Maybe watch the video before making a dumb comment.
These homes would’ve been infested with or without foam insulation. The pest control contractor was not doing what they were paid to do. The ground must be treated before construction and a routine treatment as per pesticide manufacturers guidelines. Bait traps annually installed and check are a must in certain areas. It doesn’t matter what type of insulation you have period. Termites will get in and destroy wood if their not stopped. Very little or no pesticides were used to prevent this.
A termite company may treat the property correctly but contractor could have ruin the treatment or homeowner disturb the treated area. There could be many factors.
These are Formosan termites, nothing you put in the ground is going to kill them, they live in wood. You are think of subterranean termites which are an issue throughout the USA, but much easier to spot since they rely on mud tunnels once they leave the ground.
Slabs get cracks.there are plumbing lines.contractor can disturb or alter the termite barrier. I've seen the best treated house still have termites.
In america everything is somebody else's fault. My house was ravaged by termites, who do I take to court?
Pretty sure the old fiberglass insulation companies paid for this video to be made.
Also what I was thinking.
We need to stop building homes as if they are sheds and built them with Concrete.
Concrete use in the building industry is a major source of CO2 emissons and not sustainable.
@@Mr.Monta77 DUHHH, CO2 is plant food necessary for our survival and is less .001 of the atmosphere. Amazing how so many are conned. The no. 1 greenhouse gas is water vapor which is a 1000's of times greater than CO2,what do you want to do, dry out all the air, lol. No one has common sense anymore or think, they are just told what to think.
I hope they make mega tons more CO2 so the plants make me more O2
Drywall also hides termites. Moisture control is the single most important part of preventing termites. Spray foam has nothing to do with it. EFIS stucco is much worse on a home
I totally agree!
I have never heard of termites eating concrete, steel, plastic, glass, brick, glass foam or aluminum. If you have, please reply.
So it's not really about the spray foam then, spray foamed or not, if there's termite in your home, they will eat your wood and you won't notice it not unless your wood foundation and supports are all well exposed for everyone's eyes to see.
As a termite inspector, spray foam makes it very difficult to examine the wood framing. With regular insulation, I can easily lift it up to examine the wood. It's literally impossible to do with spray foam without destroying the foam
What are your thoughts on a crawls pace encapsulation when doing termite inspections?
@@chirina5 if its encapsulated up to the frame, then it could be hiding termites. If i can peel back the encap enough to see the frames all good, then i think you will be safe as long as you get an annual inspection.
How about do your job proper and not blame foam. You not "fighting " termites from inside of my home any way.. its outside. Stupid video.
@@Bostonski you must be trolling
@@Bostonski Famosan termites actually live in the wood inside your house!
Serious latent defect issue. Would have been interesting to hear about the effectiveness or lack of, regarding tent fumigation.
Spray urethane is also not great for the environment. It's one of those materials which lasts hundreds to thousands of years and it's life as a construction material is far less then that. I would hope it's important to this news agency to talk about alternatives like rockwool, which may be more expensive to install but it works as good or better than urethane foam and is biodegradable.
Not sure what spray foam got to do with terminates, They are after the wood.
The story at the end said that the foam allows the termites to make tunnels in the house that aren't detectable. I guess it makes it easier for them to occupy a home
This is the equivalent of blaming forks for obesity.
I think the argument is that the foam allows for easy movement throughout the structure allowing for increased damage while also making termites harder to detect. That's the difference.
@@jdub2878 Easier movement than fiberglass or other common insulation materials, which they wouldn't even have to chew through? None of this report makes sense in requards to pointing the finger at spray foam. There are so many other variables that are 100% more to blame than spray foam. I understand what they mean or intend to suggest. I also understand how spray foam actually performs in a home. The good and the bad. It's what I do. With that said, this story is misleading and bogus, and potentially damaging to the spray foam industry.
America's dummy building technology - when I lived in Central Europe I have never heard of home insurance because there was no wood used in home construction
IT IS JUST THERE WAY OF GETTING OUT OF PAYING JUST MAKING THERE OWN LOOPHOLES GOT TO LOVE IT LOL
The insurance company?
This is why you shouldn't use wood lumber anymore.
Well ,concrete houses dosen’t have that problem 😉 but they keep making wooden house that make hardware store lots of $$$🤔
Big question is were was the moisture coming from bad siding bad sill flashing ,roof termites need moisture to live?
Famosin Termites do not need moisture to survive, they actually live and nest in dry wood, which can be within your home. They have veracious appetites and have higher numbers than a subterranean termite nest, which is underground.
There needs to be insecticide impregnated foam options.
This is scary stuff.
Only The wood is infested not the foam
Sounds like poor home maintenance and bad exterminators
coastal homes made of wood? That is just a bad idea in general.
Unless you live in the northern states, your home should be ICF (insulated concrete forms) or at minimum concrete block... Even in a northern state, ICF is much better than any other current materials.
I live in NC -- what do you mean by concrete block?
@@ToOpen6seven Most new homes in the south are made from concrete cinder blocks that are stacked and then filled with concrete so the structure is strong enough for hurricanes and won't be destroyed by flooding. Worst case scenario is the house interior is demo'ed and then refinished, but the walls stay intact.
Concrete Home, fire proof and can withstand tornadoes and floods well worth the extra price tag.
where can you even find a home made of all concrete?
@@ToOpen6seven You make them from inside your bank account.
It sure is nice living in the desert. What's a termite?
You have termites, even in the dessert, don't be fooled.. They could be eating your house right now!
They're the ones creating these tubes coming out of floors, walls, etc.
Yeah. Not fault of foam. Foam is great. Treat your lumber.
My question is was they doing the year inspection and retreat of the liquid like they were supposed to or did they use the bait stations if so that the problem Dayan should be ashamed of her self for trying to scare people
Is this foam closed cell polyurethane or open cell?
First, you need different building material, OTHER THAN REGULAR WOOD, to build with if you live in termite areas. You will need steel, concrete or completely TREATED wood throughout your home! That has NOTHING to do with the spray foam! Termites DO NOT EAT spray foam! They just tunnel through it, but if you have termites, the fact that you have them in the first place is your major issue. The problem is that termite treatment companies are used to doing the bare minimum! They squirt some pesticide and that's it, in some cases. When they FIRST detect a problem, they should be out there with thermal imaging, WHICH STILL WORKS EVEN IF YOU HAVE SPRAY FOAM, to figure out how bad the infestation is! People need to be smarter about their homes and not trust these companies. Get yourself a IR thermal meter off of eBay. If your wall shows heat inside versus other walls, you know something is in there that warrants a look. Bees, termites and ants all generate heat when they swarm. That will tell you how bad of a problem you have. Do that when you're looking at a home too! Do your due diligence.
So if you use metal studs and spray foam you have yourself a perfect home.
Pest companies hire young people who dont have the interest to treat well they halfass their job. I just discovered termites and im not sure what i will do next
Wow...so its best to get termite inspection before any type of foam is sprayed...good to know.
if all the other tradesmen and contractors are telling the homeowner NOT TO USE spray foam insulation, DONT USE IT!
Carpenters hate spray foam as it ruins good quality wood.
HVACs dont lke it because it causes filters in the evaporators to gum up with foam bits and not only that can cause a pain in the ass to add new wiring or piping when servicing the heat pumps.
Electricians definitely dont like spray foam as they cant find proper electrical piping as the whole damn interior walls are covered in this crap. How can they find the original wiring or make new wiring around the house?
The Data/internet companies dont like em because the insulation also causes siginal loss and to add wiring, they cant get in between the walls as well.
Do not use spray foam insulation FFS.
Built a house two years ago. I was told it was a superior product. I have so much regret. I have a brand new home, built on pest heaven, apparently. I'm seeing termites.
builders should have installed aluminum flashing on foundation then built with treated lumber. If they used fir and didnt seal outside well then wood gets wet and that is an open invitation for termites
This reporter husband works for termites control company 😁
in italy we not have this problem because we build homes by bricks, into wood homes in my country live only nomades and very very poor peoples
American home construction is so subpar. Where my parents are from concrete or brick is used due to the humidity....
@@curliefro we have multilayer walls: external finished by ceramic tiles, inside bricks, insulating panels, bricks and internal finished by wood panels
all assembled around concrete harmed structure, the homes are made for resist up one hundred years
This is stupid and misleading. Nothing wrong with the spray insulation. The termites shouldn’t have gotten in the home period. Spray foam or not.
Definitely a pest control issue not an insulation issue. Everyone is always passing the buck.
Sounds to me like you should have got a better pest control company.
Stop building houses out of wood. America shouldn’t build with such flimsy flammable material.
It’s all a business and political as well. Building organizations push for this and they are given the ok. Long story.
The worst thing you could ever do to your house. How will you ever know if your roof has a leak? You wont. Worst idea ever.
What does the foam have to do with termites. The reporter chose a title to make this report sound bigger than it is? WHY? Local news stations trying to be relevant by twisting a story. Did this story get pushed down from corporate State propaganda TV FoxNews?
Follow the money. Only Pest Control Services getting the law suits. So, did pest control srv pay for this story to sway public opinion and therefore sway politicians to change building codes and insurance regulations eliminate the competition by foam?
But this reporter needs to get right. This story should have been about termite population / prevention, considering trade offs between energy cost savings vs termite control, understanding your insurance needs and liability exposure when choosing foam, pest control srvs., or choosing wood vs metal stubs.
Why not sue the wood stud manufacturer, or the builder? Who does the homeowner with fiberglass or ICF blown in insulation that used the same pest control service sue? Foam is no longer an excuse, so who due you sue?
The report didn't really explain the issue. The only law suites are with pest control services who have methods for detecting termites but do not want work a little harder or purchase the necessary equipment to detect termites within foam or inside any type of wall or building material. Yes with foam you cant just insert a tube sprayer and get coverage. The home owner will have to accept the cost of opening the wall, cutting out the foam, before you spray. But they should think of that as part of their building plans. Lower heating and cooling costs vs. the possibility of termites. Its hard to fight termites regardless. When they are in the studs you cant see them or spray them. Spray wont help until they come out of the wood. Fog treatment is best and should enter into the tunnels made in the wood or foam. Once termites hit the cost to repair is the same costs.
This was shot pre COVID. Just look at everything else put out on the news since then. It isnt news it is propaganda for whoever pays the bills.
Especially if you have a roof leak you'll never see the water dripping. Pretty soon the whole roof rots out
the disgusting bug sounds were really unnecessary and made this fucking unwatchable for me, thanks a lot
Can also result in terrible odor if mixed incorrectly
Which is why you be sure to get a reputable contractor to apply it. Too many people go with the low price rather than known quality contractors.
Why are many houses in america made from wood, dosent mame sense, why not use bricks and mortar.
Bricks are placed as facade over wood.
How well do brick and mortar hold up to ground swell and earthquakes?
Buy a shipping container home. Use steel framing. You’ll never have a problem.
Rust?
It looks like termites were present when the foam was applied.
Termites looks wood that is the problem because people nowadays build houses made out of wood which is not good.
I see it alot here in Eastern nc.its bad stuff.should never be in a home where termites are prevalent.
spend some money on prepping the outside.
those spray foam jobs are bad
This is literally lame. You found some article and blew it out of proportion. So now some people won't use spray foam. Which is hands down one of the top ways to reduce your energy usage. This sucked, you are I'll informed and hungry for any kind of story. Worse than that you presented it in a manner that made it scary all so you could get views. This is a prime example of what is wrong with some news reporting
Fear fear fear... scare people for views
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Holy uneducated Dana! The spray foam has nothing to do with this problem what so ever! It has to do with the contractor that completed the exterior of the structure. What a pointless segment.