War Thunder F14A Tomcat Gameplay 7 Kills *Still the King of Top Tier*

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  • @sulyokpeter3941
    @sulyokpeter3941 2 роки тому +166

    I love the F-14 Tomcat. Such a BEAST was in real life as well! Legendary fighter jet!

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 2 роки тому +1

      your face gives strong male role model vibes

  • @cross_2c639
    @cross_2c639 2 роки тому +80

    I stumbled onto this video while I was looking up for gameplay, and I'm really impressed with yours. Bravo.

  • @ripliner3964
    @ripliner3964 2 роки тому +108

    That’s one of the matches where you go “man a talisman looks so good rn”

    • @970SHARKO
      @970SHARKO 2 роки тому +1

      im new to warthunder so what does a talisman do ?

    • @ripliner3964
      @ripliner3964 2 роки тому +7

      @@970SHARKO it basically gives the effects of a premium account, so a multiplier on XP and silver lions, to a non premium plane

    • @970SHARKO
      @970SHARKO 2 роки тому +1

      @@ripliner3964 ohhh thanks

    • @ichosolemanuel6048
      @ichosolemanuel6048 9 місяців тому

      @@ripliner3964 what? I thought it only doubles RP?

    • @just_david
      @just_david 7 місяців тому

      @@ripliner3964 Doesn't it only double RP? or did it also used to double SL a year ago?

  • @commandercody212th
    @commandercody212th 2 роки тому +399

    Just wait until we get the F-22 and f-35

    • @nohardy5879
      @nohardy5879 2 роки тому +60

      we won’t for a long time.

    • @Sob43
      @Sob43 2 роки тому +31

      There's a chance that we will get War thunder modern vechicles at the end of 2022 but Gajin is still not ready so

    • @slas3rr_813
      @slas3rr_813 2 роки тому +8

      You'll be waiting for a long time then

    • @commandercody212th
      @commandercody212th 2 роки тому +3

      @@nohardy5879 we're actually pretty close

    • @Varvite
      @Varvite 2 роки тому +34

      @@commandercody212th absolutely not

  • @1Kn2828
    @1Kn2828 2 роки тому +203

    wish there were more 4th gens or other gamemodes, 11.3 ends in 5 minutes or a 1v8 and the worst thing is having a mirage/f14 in a 1v8 makes it super easy for the 1 side.

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому +17

      yeah

    • @Mangos1021
      @Mangos1021 2 роки тому +10

      Yeah it should be like 12.0 or 12.3, a new BR for these planes. It's not like they won't get matches anyway since top teir is full of F-14s.

    • @mistikmayhem9123
      @mistikmayhem9123 2 роки тому +1

      just give it time….people keep coughing up $$….it will get there

    • @mmacadangdang8484
      @mmacadangdang8484 2 роки тому

      @@Mangos1021 well guess what theres now 12.0 because of the mig 29 and f16....the tomcat is still at 11.7 tho

    • @ElSoMbRiO19
      @ElSoMbRiO19 2 роки тому

      they cant ad 5th jets cause some people are inevitably leak classified documents about them to win an argument

  • @user-my6tt9gz8r
    @user-my6tt9gz8r 2 роки тому +5

    This video alone inspired me to start trying to get the f14

  • @MGKTLGLDLG
    @MGKTLGLDLG 2 роки тому +1

    This is perfect and i need it more. Great video

  • @derk6943
    @derk6943 2 роки тому +1

    New favourite War thunder yt inbound.👍

  • @1995Pie
    @1995Pie 9 місяців тому +1

    i dont play this game and never saw it but with the music i can feel how epic this game could be :D that was amazing

  • @franciscs1604
    @franciscs1604 Рік тому +3

    You are truly *Maverick* in this vid…!

    • @Javasthename
      @Javasthename 3 місяці тому +1

      Bro hit the sound barrier 55675765765765765765675765678876 times lol

  • @davidking4672
    @davidking4672 2 роки тому +1

    Smooth criminal. I liked how you used ground clutter. Bravo..

  • @CubanWarThunder
    @CubanWarThunder 2 роки тому +8

    there was this one game that i had, me and 3 other guys were all in the Kfir C.7 and we all caught up to this F14 and fired about 6 missiles at him. As we were chasing him we managed to lead him into a canyon which we all chased him through and he spammed his flares. We managed to take him out because he spammed his flares and we caught him in a stall

  • @playboivex1555
    @playboivex1555 2 роки тому +1

    i love that logo on the back

  • @redht2
    @redht2 2 роки тому

    Your awesome friend!! this is the best video that I see... Redht2 is reporting

  • @lleimony3659
    @lleimony3659 2 роки тому +7

    Never seen wartunder gameplay with phonk love it 🙂

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому

      Thanks dude!

    • @mello_nohandle
      @mello_nohandle 2 роки тому

      it’s one of the only ways to play wt enjoyably. any music helps really

  • @asherlao.
    @asherlao. 2 роки тому

    COOOOOOLLL
    nice kills

  • @EpicTyphlosionTV
    @EpicTyphlosionTV 2 місяці тому +2

    Alternate title: "Some of that pilot shit"

  • @Sob43
    @Sob43 2 роки тому +2

    Great video!

  • @CozyCorner-r3x
    @CozyCorner-r3x Рік тому +6

    this move is at 3:34 😱
    just unbelievable 🔥👑💯

  • @jandroroller123
    @jandroroller123 2 роки тому +29

    Buenísima partida bro, aver si soy capaz de llegar a 7 y te aviso xD, de momento de 6 no e pasado, siempre me pongo 2 phoenix por las risas de tirarlo sin tener q trackear pero creo que voy a ir probando a llevarlo con los 6 sparrows

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому +4

      Seguro que llegaras hacerte 7 e incluso 8. Es cuestion de tiempo, pero a demas si juntas a un buen piloto mas tener suerte en una partida normalmente llegas hacer muchas kills. Yo te recomiendo llevar 6 misiles de radar. En esta partida ves que son mas utiles que los phoenixs. Los phoenixs en realista y en estos mapas pequeños no llegan a ser utiles. Alguna kill te haras, pero si quieres llevar la combinacion mas eficiente yo llevaria la mia.

    • @williewilson2250
      @williewilson2250 2 роки тому

      @@dfiestasr I found running x2 sparrow x2 Phoenix and x4 aim9's works really well when getting a lock isn't optimal and are still good for catching people off guard

    • @miguelvalcarcesoler8145
      @miguelvalcarcesoler8145 2 роки тому

      @@dfiestasr te puedo agregar i jugamos algun dia juntos ? x fin llegue a 11.0 Salu2

  • @noamartinezmartinez1501
    @noamartinezmartinez1501 Рік тому

    Me ha gustado la partido muy chulo el avión y el manejo que le traes , y también la buena musica que le has puesto 🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  Рік тому +1

      Muchas gracias hombre! Me alegro

    • @noamartinezmartinez1501
      @noamartinezmartinez1501 Рік тому

      @@dfiestasr ojala poder jugar contigo por , estoy empezando ahora a darle y no tengo mucha idea , y además estoy jugando con teclado y raton y me mola bastante

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  Рік тому

      @@noamartinezmartinez1501 estas jugando con aviones de piston o te has comprado algún premium top tier? Te pregunto porque te podría recomendar algún que otro canal que explican súper bien y que los utilice en su día para poder mejorar mucho

    • @noamartinezmartinez1501
      @noamartinezmartinez1501 Рік тому

      @@dfiestasr de momento tengo aviones de la segunda guerra mundial , osea los malos de narices y aburridos jajajjaj , pero estoy poco a poco avanzando para conseguir mejores , y también me e metido en un clan pars conseguir el caza gratis que te dan por estar en un clan y tal

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  Рік тому

      @@noamartinezmartinez1501 muy bien. Pues te recomiendo estos 2 canales que son de aviones de la segunda guerra mundial que son muy pero que muy buenos. 1: Jengar 2: AdamTHeEngineer 3: Defyn

  • @Fastandtasty2024
    @Fastandtasty2024 Рік тому

    Very cool video👍

  • @ncbreed10
    @ncbreed10 Рік тому

    Sorry if this is a stupid question. The guy at 3:35 in the F-4F, Do you think he would have made it if he had fired his flares and banked it left quickly? or did he just set his flares off too early? Just seems like he could have made it if he had done something different. Once again my apologies, I am ignorant in the ways of WT jet play.

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  Рік тому

      if he banked it left very quickly, he probably whould evade the missile

  • @JeriDro
    @JeriDro 5 місяців тому

    i like the music, very fitting

  • @ionic_hades
    @ionic_hades 10 місяців тому +1

    bro just put up a phonk music went killed and returned

  • @DouthSigma4321
    @DouthSigma4321 2 роки тому +2

    Song name?

  • @PaHomeAtHome
    @PaHomeAtHome 2 роки тому

    Nice Area 88 skin. I hope You chose it cause anime "Area 88" :D

  • @balkanbrot
    @balkanbrot Рік тому +1

    which song is that? cheers

    • @lugaphonk
      @lugaphonk Рік тому

      Luga - Last One
      Follow me on Spotify ❤

  • @Atoraea2025
    @Atoraea2025 10 місяців тому

    Wow amazing game play

  • @tigerjenks
    @tigerjenks 2 роки тому

    Black on the F-14 looks insane 😍

  • @bbblllaaaj
    @bbblllaaaj 11 місяців тому

    Dude. Sick gameplay. What do you use for a controller?

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  11 місяців тому

      Joystick thrustamaste

    • @bbblllaaaj
      @bbblllaaaj 11 місяців тому

      ​@@dfiestasrnice. Me too but i suck. Lol how long have you been playing?

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  11 місяців тому

      @@bbblllaaaj since 2019

  • @Cosmonaut_354
    @Cosmonaut_354 7 місяців тому +1

    Anyone here in 2024 and seeing this awesome tomcat video?
    👇

  • @cpy
    @cpy 2 роки тому +4

    0:30 is this how new F-14 tomcat's are made?

    • @GracenLucas-p7f
      @GracenLucas-p7f 2 місяці тому

      According to this part of the video they made a mig... someone's been cheating.

    • @cpy
      @cpy 2 місяці тому

      @@GracenLucas-p7fawkwaaaaarrrddddd

  • @breezer_91
    @breezer_91 2 роки тому +1

    cómo se llama la canción? song's name?

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому +2

      Nobte preocupes hablame en español. La cancion esta en la descripciom

    • @breezer_91
      @breezer_91 2 роки тому +1

      @@dfiestasr muchas gracias!

    • @lugaphonk
      @lugaphonk Рік тому +1

      Luga - Last One

    • @breezer_91
      @breezer_91 Рік тому

      @@lugaphonk cool track dude, does it have copyright?

  • @СвятославФедько-л3л

    Respect!

  • @wilxy6721
    @wilxy6721 2 роки тому +1

    Playlist?

  • @litttlewing
    @litttlewing Рік тому +3

    Dr Disrespect brought me here

  • @facilidadetotal2688
    @facilidadetotal2688 2 роки тому

    como coloca a câmera nessa configuração?
    no meu game quando movimento o mouse o avião vira junto.

  • @2AMCrcoky
    @2AMCrcoky 2 роки тому

    How do I use the mix sparrows it doesn’t let me put the aim7f with the e2😢

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому

      Now you can because gaijin quit it

    • @2AMCrcoky
      @2AMCrcoky 2 роки тому

      @@dfiestasr oh

  • @emmano6340
    @emmano6340 2 роки тому

    Excelente camarada !

  • @rarper8485
    @rarper8485 2 роки тому

    I wish you 1000 subs....

  • @berty2264
    @berty2264 2 роки тому +3

    Well, i made 7 kills many times with F5E... 7 kills, 5 kills, any match i can put 3 kills easy, I believe that in the toptier, what matters is the skill of each player with the respective jet,
    I hardly die to F14, easier for me to die to J7E than f14, Anyway, you played very well, congratulations for the video

    • @camaradeKC
      @camaradeKC 2 роки тому

      there is so many dumb ppl on f14 also x)

  • @GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze
    @GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze 2 роки тому +23

    Great game but I did notice two things that could’ve given you more kills this match, your reliance on missiles has had a noticeable effect on your gun aim, and you should get more familiar with when to use PD and normal SRC, it will help you maintain locks way better when you how when to switch. I’d recommend jumping into custom without missiles for about 30 minutes just to sharpen your gun aim, it makes a night and day difference for me

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому +5

      I'll keep in mind. Thanks for your opinion

    • @YT_niuniuhhh
      @YT_niuniuhhh 2 роки тому +3

      Maybe because the missilles are amazing? There is no need to get close and risking with the cannon if you can just launch air to air from 10km away

    • @GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze
      @GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze 2 роки тому +11

      @@YT_niuniuhhh It’s about becoming a better player not getting max kills. Everyone should strive to better themselves at whatever they do. You never know when newly acquired skills will come in handy. There may come a time where the only way to save a teammate with someone on his 6 is to use guns. It’s ridiculous to say that you should just forget about guns because missiles are better. I still get aces in the F-14 running only Fox-2s and guns. And I’ll tell you, those matches are way more fun and satisfying than just Fox-1ing everything, as much as I love doing that too.

    • @L_ky
      @L_ky 2 роки тому +4

      @@GrapeFlavoredAntifreeze While I understand your sentiment, the pilot reliance on missile increased and focus on guns decreased historically in real life around the time of Tomcats. It would make more sense if we had F15 and F16's due to the heavy influence of Fighter Mafia on its design echoing the old guard dogfighting methods of f86 and p51s
      as for F14, focusing on missiles is way to go. Guns on when it's all you have left and you have no other choice but to fight.

    • @williewilson2250
      @williewilson2250 2 роки тому +1

      @@L_ky that's what happened with the f4's then they added a gun because the missiles weren't good enough until about the late 90s

  • @Hamza-rm6ci
    @Hamza-rm6ci 2 роки тому

    Whats your movement keybinds?

  • @vizu9338
    @vizu9338 Рік тому

    The missile kills are ok but what made me think u are really good is ur movement on the battlefield. Would like to team up with you :D

  • @Zzzz320
    @Zzzz320 2 роки тому +1

    omg u was in one team with russian youtuber Zetrox

  • @GoSirSky02
    @GoSirSky02 2 роки тому

    la verdad muy epico :) nice.

  • @Super_hornet
    @Super_hornet 7 місяців тому +1

    If only it were the same now 😢

    • @reinni2968
      @reinni2968 7 місяців тому

      Its still amazing

  • @NnumNumNum
    @NnumNumNum 2 роки тому

    very nice match !

  • @pavlevukosavljevic1042
    @pavlevukosavljevic1042 2 роки тому

    w video
    😀

  • @randomreal3228
    @randomreal3228 Рік тому +2

    for me, tier II and III is the most exciting 🤣

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  Рік тому

      Well. That depends on your favorite planes. That tier is fun too. I enjoy a lot flying the spitfire

  • @OsculumTormentum
    @OsculumTormentum 2 роки тому

    I'm in the process of downloading this from Steam. Air Conflicts Vietnam is the only other air combat game I last purchased, & has little fun factor, hope this is better!

  • @denyslogvynenko210
    @denyslogvynenko210 Рік тому

    hi men,can you tell please,what beast top USA plane in your opinion,a-10,a-6e,f-5c,av-8a,f4s phantom 2?

  • @power_cord
    @power_cord Рік тому

    since when was it possible to take aim7E-2s and aim7Fs on the same custom loadout?

  • @projenitor2387
    @projenitor2387 2 роки тому +2

    New problems require new solutions that much of the community has not experienced.

  • @0Handle_Handle0
    @0Handle_Handle0 2 роки тому

    what are your graphics settings? they look nice

  • @max_m8639
    @max_m8639 2 роки тому

    Que buena partida pana, Salu2

  • @ibragod
    @ibragod 2 роки тому

    which are your pc specs?

  • @nyb4810
    @nyb4810 Рік тому

    У Томкаты радар понерфили получается? Тут на видео вроде он обычный доплеровский, а не как сейчас доплеровский в переднюю полусферу

  • @emmax._.
    @emmax._. Рік тому

    wow dude you are amazing in war thander i would love to be like you

  • @hugobastida9952
    @hugobastida9952 10 місяців тому

    Gran videoo

  • @everythingchannel-h5n
    @everythingchannel-h5n Рік тому

    What song are you using?

  • @__dreadn0ught_71
    @__dreadn0ught_71 2 роки тому

    Awesome music! More videos with phonk, please!

  • @jtinsidemk2961
    @jtinsidemk2961 2 роки тому +1

    GG

  • @bbbrrooo
    @bbbrrooo 2 роки тому +3

    ave bro
    say name song pls 🕺🤸‍♂🏋‍♂⛹‍♂🤾‍♂🧘‍♂

  • @marcosrosello5400
    @marcosrosello5400 Рік тому

    Hola! Me darías algunos consejos del juego? Recién empezé y no entiendo nada jajaja. Además me gustaría poder adquirir un avión "actual" . Ya que cuando juego multijugador, no puedo con un avión de la ww2 hacerle frente a un f18 o un mig.

  • @exza3452
    @exza3452 2 роки тому

    What is the name of this camouflage?

  • @DanimMR84
    @DanimMR84 Рік тому

    Muy maquina tio

  • @fearofthedark88
    @fearofthedark88 2 роки тому

    This video got me pumped and I don’t even like techno. Good gameplay.

    • @fearofthedark88
      @fearofthedark88 2 роки тому

      I liked how you were hugging the terrain and would pop up to fire- all I could think of was the “Surprise,mf’er” clip. Also winning the game with the inverted cannon strafe was badass.

  • @thanasis63390
    @thanasis63390 2 роки тому +2

    Music breaks balls

    • @lugaphonk
      @lugaphonk Рік тому +1

      Follow me on Spotify and listen to Last One - Luga

  • @Vicenteepb
    @Vicenteepb 2 роки тому

    Booof!! Videaco loco

  • @musicvideosEM220
    @musicvideosEM220 Рік тому

    That was insane!!! 6:45

  • @c1500kx1
    @c1500kx1 2 роки тому

    how do u make it where u can move ur camera like that with out it moving the plane

    • @TastyNebula
      @TastyNebula 2 роки тому

      For me you just hold C for free looking

  • @kiri2863
    @kiri2863 2 роки тому

    First time? :D

  • @crazymoon8835
    @crazymoon8835 2 роки тому

    what's your playlist to play wt?

  • @Amazing._.Juancho
    @Amazing._.Juancho 2 роки тому +3

    La primera vez que veo más OP un Americano a un ruso ojalá así siga por qué ya estoy cansado del russian bias

    • @williewilson2250
      @williewilson2250 2 роки тому

      The f4e had flares while no one else did for almost like a year lol

    • @dante_519
      @dante_519 2 роки тому +1

      ahora pusieron al su25 💀💀

  • @arjunsarkart
    @arjunsarkart Рік тому

    i just got a 7k 1v5 where 2 were mig 29's and one yak 141, one f14a. I used the f14b

  • @trident4555
    @trident4555 Рік тому

    Is top tier air to air battle just all guided missles? I dont play planes in War Thunder so how is this hard Im curious.

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  Рік тому

      Now it's very very different. Now we have f16 and mig 29. And the f14 is the 5 best jet of the game. The meta has changed

  • @clearlyloris__698
    @clearlyloris__698 2 роки тому

    As a f 14 user.I recommend you to use 2 pheonix and 4 aim 7f

  • @flaviomonteiro1414
    @flaviomonteiro1414 2 роки тому

    Carregou o time...

  • @cybercat7851
    @cybercat7851 11 місяців тому

    My 8 kills speedrun is around 3 minutes in two P-47s (D25 and D28, I think). If I find the video I’ll upload it to my channel

  • @anexado7196
    @anexado7196 2 роки тому

    Hermano como consigues ese jet

  • @phlemtaco6623
    @phlemtaco6623 2 роки тому

    The aim 7e 2 better for close range compared to the 7f?

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому

      Yes

    • @ariq4209
      @ariq4209 2 роки тому

      yes, but why shoot at close range if u can shoot from long range

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому

      @@ariq4209 because if you shoot at long rage they can turn and avoid the missile, but if you shoot at 2-3km it is impossible for they to aviod the missile

    • @williewilson2250
      @williewilson2250 2 роки тому

      @@ariq4209 because their rwr is screeching at them and they'll have a good 15 seconds at least to react

  • @f1rstmalina
    @f1rstmalina 2 роки тому

    based playboy on plane

  • @NANOG-P8
    @NANOG-P8 2 роки тому

    who runs reinforced flares ?

    • @NotAnWildPig
      @NotAnWildPig 2 роки тому

      People who don’t listen to the BS bigger WT UA-camr say.
      Chaffs are effective barely 15% of the time in any jets in the game. (I know.. very realistic radar mechanics in WT)
      Running flares only is wiser (ESPECIALLY WITH F-14) as you wont need to worry about bigger threat such has all aspects sidewinders

    • @NANOG-P8
      @NANOG-P8 2 роки тому

      @@NotAnWildPig you just don't know how to use chaff . anything besides going 90 degrees to the missile while chaffing doesn't work . Secondly pre chaffing is extremely effective .

    • @NotAnWildPig
      @NotAnWildPig 2 роки тому

      @@NANOG-P8 most radar missile can still track sometime even up to 5 seconds after loosing lock. R24R, 7F etc

    • @NANOG-P8
      @NANOG-P8 2 роки тому

      @@NotAnWildPig thats different . 90 chaff makes the missile go for the chaff if you try anything else the radar will lose lock but the missile will go for the enemy plane .

    • @ferrous3262
      @ferrous3262 2 роки тому

      @@NANOG-P8 f14s engine are really hot it makes sense to use reinforced flares missiles still track it even with reheat off

  • @marcosloaiza7615
    @marcosloaiza7615 2 роки тому

    De país es ese avión?

  • @WoodmansMansion1987
    @WoodmansMansion1987 Рік тому

    estas muy loco mi amigo

  • @AviadorWT
    @AviadorWT 2 роки тому

    Como se ponen las alas serradas ?

  • @Vapor_32
    @Vapor_32 2 роки тому

    Vandy 1 😎😏🤝🏾🤘🏾💪🏾

  • @swmando888
    @swmando888 2 роки тому

    Spanish Maverick😎

  • @jojofrog5.56
    @jojofrog5.56 2 роки тому +1

    Muito louco o seu F-14 mano

  • @spaghettman24
    @spaghettman24 6 місяців тому

    i thought it was sped up by seeing how fast u were going

  • @harikatod8348
    @harikatod8348 10 місяців тому

    i am newbie, how can i play with this plane

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  10 місяців тому

      Grinding all the US tech tree

  • @MRLucasrdm
    @MRLucasrdm Рік тому

    esse video é perfeito!!!

  • @papi_from_the_9th_floor
    @papi_from_the_9th_floor 2 роки тому

    When did the f14 get e2s?

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому +1

      in the drone age update

  • @blakeekalb
    @blakeekalb Рік тому

    There is something about this game that brings out the true giga gamers, we are all in this together brother. Fucking full gas baby. For reference, coming from some dumb WoW top 0.5%. This game and it’s community is beautiful. Fucking cheers bud

  • @amaresh589
    @amaresh589 2 роки тому

    what game is this pliz reply

    • @AleksBaleks12
      @AleksBaleks12 8 місяців тому

      War thunder it's a free to play game

  • @kerushade
    @kerushade 2 роки тому

    Ese f14 cargándose tremendo drip

  • @solidalternate9332
    @solidalternate9332 2 роки тому +1

    Pretty much 11.3 lobbies are filled with wing sweep jets, cool video tho

  • @logandesroches3512
    @logandesroches3512 2 роки тому

    everyones gangsta untill the f-14 runs into a harrier and they get a lock

    • @dfiestasr
      @dfiestasr  2 роки тому

      Absolutly true, its practically impossible to dodge and aim9l if you are playing with the tomcat