The Human Torch: Spider-Man's TRUE Best Friend

[@CSLucasEpic]

The Human Torch was supposed to be in Spiderman and his Amazing Friends along with Iceman. But the producers could not get the rights to use him. So they settled to making up a superhero just for the show, Firestar.
I imagine that Spiderman and his Amazing Friends with Spiderman, Iceman and the Human Torch would have been pretty awesome.

[@trevturp6891]

Yeah, but The Human Torch isn't Spiderman's true best friend, Harry Osborn is Spiderman's true best friend.

[@venommaster534]

​@@trevturp6891 that's Peter's not spiderman's

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

​@@trevturp6891yes

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

​@@venommaster534same person

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

Cool

[@abrahammesrajecorrea2349]

Not to mention the fact Johnny left in his last will that Peter should replace him in the Fantastic Four in case he died (during the Future Foundation storyline) is truly a way to showcase how much their relationship is like... which is why I hate the modern Spiderman writer. Not just for the whole Paul fiasco self incert nonesense... but also for what they made Johnny as. For someone who was like Peter's brother from another mother, he sure didn't believe Peter right away when he was in a time of need and didn't watch out in his powers when he tried to hit him.

[@trevturp6891]

Yeah, but The Human Torch isn't Spiderman's true best friend, Harry Osborn is Spiderman's true best friend.

[@akiMKH]

​​@@trevturp6891 In your headcanon, sure.

[@seantaylor424]

I always loved how Spidey was like family to the Fantastic Four, but I never thought about how their relationship started off rocky and grew to the point that it feels like it was always there. That's the beauty of long-running continuity.

[@RealCFZ]

Learning that F4 film is not taking place in Earth 199999/MCU (not calling it 616), I can see F4 letting Spider-Man join the family after everything he went through.

[@CameraPunk5049]

It is a shame the comics of Spiderman and the Human torch were barely referenced in the main issues of the amazing spiderman.
His friendships with Daredevil, Captain America, Wolverine and Human Torch always get overlooked. Despite the fact they were indeed close.
And sure he knew Ironman, Dr Strange and Mr Fantastic, but he wad never as close with them

[@EduardoRato420]

Also the hulk

[@markmagician2471]

Spider-Man actually has that bond with Reed Reed was Spider-Man's first mentor

[@davidbjacobs3598]

I don't think he likes Iron Man all that much after Civil War... They're on good enough terms now, but I don't think they can really be close again.
I wouldn't say he's all that close with Cap though. Definitely a strong mutual respect, but it's almost like he looks up to Cap too much to be close friends with him. Cap is his role model.
I'd say he gets along pretty well with Doctor Strange, although he doesn't enjoy the mystic shenanigans that come with it. They're both Ditko creations so writers love throwing them together. Most notably they had ASM 500, "Happy Birthday." And I think their first team-up was Amazing Annual #2 waaaaay back in the 60s (I think it was a Lee/Ditko?) Not as early as Torch, Daredevil, or the Hulk (well he FOUGHT the Hulk), but still pretty early.
Actually, I think he has a pretty good relationship with Hulk as well. In Amazing Annual #3, Spider-Man almost joined the Avengers, but they asked him to help find the Hulk. He ran away before they could explain that they wanted to help the Hulk, not hurt him, and when Spider-Man went after Hulk he realized he was just some dude who wanted to be left alone and wasn't actually dangerous. So he just lied to the Avengers and ran away again. I guess it's a bit of an idiot plot, like it's just one big understanding, but I kinda like that this is why he never joined the Avengers haha. (Also of note... Daredevil had a cameo in that issue, where he vouched for Spider-Man to the Avengers.)

[@t.rexking441]

Can we take a moment to acknowledge how cool it is that this guy put the issue numbers alongside the panels?

[@thenationaltimelyactionhou9328]

Johnny and Peter's friendship is honestly one of the best friendships in fiction!

[@lockskelington314]

And in fanfiction *wink*

[@HollowFlashZero182]

This was awesome. Well done. I’m a huge Spidey fan. So much so that I have a full sleeve tattoo. I have been talking about this friendship for years!

[@payton-arts82395]

Thanks for watching!

[@marveler8994]

Spiderman interacting with other heroes like this has always made me disagree with people thinking that the character works best in his own universe only

[@ovahlord1451]

Yh him interacting with other heroes is dope , i think a lot of people myself included didn't like how mcu spiderman was just Ironboy

[@payton-arts82395]

​@@ovahlord1451
He never was Ironboy. Just because he wants to be like Ironman, doesn't make him Ironboy. Remember that he wanted to join the Fantastic Four. There's also a What If...? issue where he does, they become the Fantastic Five and he's still Spider-Man.

[@PrettyGothBoi6085]

​@@payton-arts82395I'm so glad someone's finally saying something. There's nothing wrong with him idolizing ironman. People need to chill.

[@hiranom20]

​@@PrettyGothBoi6085Yes there is. I mean, it makes sense in the way the MCU told their story, but in terms of the O.G. character, he's his own man.

[@jasonbryant1552]

Always felt that Spidey and the OG Wally West would be great friends

[@foxos7776]

Yh two of the nicest heros, kinda like Wally and dicks friendship

[@loonytunescrazy]

Loved Spidey/Torchs relationship from rivals to friends

[@caracol764]

Bro, I would love to see this relationship with the Tobey Maguire and Chris Evas versions of the characters!

[@angryjack7963]

Hope they kinda have a friendship in the mcu when human torch appears

[@joeygamer5387]

I want it to happen... but Disney is still a thing.
It would've been better to pair up Toby Maguire with Fantastic 4's (2000s) Human Torch to be good friends. It would've been a good crossover, and it would elevate the Fantastic 4.
Marvel needs to embrace its entire universe in a new way so there can be room for the main heroes to crossover. Venom fighting Wolverine, Hulk fighting The Thing, The Fantastic 4 meeting the Black Panther, and all the fun poker games in between.
Marvel can be fun, but Disney chooses not to be.

[@machomachoduck2096]

Peter’s friendship with Matt Murdock/Daredevil always felt stronger.

[@Xavier-the-voodoo-king]

Care to elaborate?

[@MorganJones-tk1mw]

@@Xavier-the-voodoo-kingI second that

[@vnthunphm7504]

@@Xavier-the-voodoo-king The relationship between Peter and Johnny might be more casual because they're closer in age, it would be weird if a lawyer constanly hangs out with a college student anyways. But Peter and Matt have something unique, they bond from trauma. Matt chose to go to Peter first when he needed someone to confide in on many occasions, even before Foggy. Or Peter would reach out to Matt as soon as he feels something off. Peter even once mentioned that they shared something no one else can understand. Another interesting aspect of their relationship is how it develops through decades under the pens of various writers. In the early days Matt kinda saw Peter as an endearing younger brother, someone he thought was impressive but still needed guidance. There was a shift in their power dynamic later on as Matt grew to accept Peter as his equal, someone he can lean on and even look up to at times.

[@noirhacks]

yeah i guess but johnny was more present in the series than matt i fell plus there are just more friend rivalry and pranks and sun quips and etc. for him and johnny than matt

[@MichaelSmith-dk1lc]

@@vnthunphm7504what kind of trauma. the human torch also has trauma

[@crimefightingspider]

Spider-man and the human torch mini series by Dan Slot from 2005 is really a great read.

[@mageeaaron2624]

I really can't wait to see Spider-Man and Human Torch interact with each other in the MCU! 🙏🏽💪

[@noirhacks]

i 100% agree also if you go further to dan slotts run of spiderman there are a lot more lore and best friend scenarios during that run as well

[@trevturp6891]

The Human Torch isn't Spiderman's true best friend, Harry Osborn is Spiderman's true best friend.

[@noirhacks]

@@trevturp6891 not really, read the comics yes he was a ONE point but then harry went mad and die right after they made up on his death bed. where you get the whole harry is is only best friend is the movies and cartoon where most of the time they could'nt use other marvel characters.

[@foxos7776]

@@trevturp6891You just love spamming this comment in replies

[@KyzerSoze718]

Yeah I read the old comics because my dad used to collect comics. Those team ups with Torch were the best

[@nicktroisi6347]

When the MCU reboots itself after Secret Wars and The F4 and X-Men have always been established mainstays in this new universe. I want to see Spider-Man team up more with Human Torch and The Fantastic Four

[@iveyyewitt1621]

It's definitely Johnny. Pete has some touching moments with Matt, and some friendly spats with Logan, but he has all those with the Torch, AND he goofs off with him.

[@salvatoreocello]

How does this video have almost 10,000 views and you have less than 200 subs
2:14 THIS MAN DESERVES IT
Great video

[@Kade_Kapes]

I also like the idea that Flash Thompson becomes Pete’s best friend.

[@marsupius]

A great story line would be if... Just after college... They spend a lot of time together and realize there are many ways to be friends. Especially when it comes to guys who care about each other, just helping each other out.

[@faizb304]

You deserve more subscribers man! More videos on topics like these, haven’t seen anyone talk about this before

[@fishertheadore6095]

IceMan has left the *Chat.*

[@markmagician2471]

There's a What If issue where Spider- Man DID join the FF and towards the end Sue left the team feeling like she wasn't needed or wanted so she leaves and gets with Namor

[@Purgosmusic]

She most likely felt greif and guilt because of her brother dying in that issue too. Probably didn't feel like being a hero anymore cuz it was stressful.

[@markmagician2471]

@@Purgosmusic wait Johnny died in that What If issue?

[@ancpikachu]

1:56 I see what you did there 🤣

[@TANOCHOA]

Peter and Bobby good friends too

[@Fenris30]

Amazing Friends one can say.

[@TANOCHOA]

A fiery friendship I might add

[@theprowrestlingguy6851]

I personally want to see a part 5 of What If Anime Voice Actors had a Marvel Role. And I would like to show you my picks:
Jason Griffith as Spider-Man/Peter Parker (Because of his performance as Sonic the Hedgehog)
Zeno Robinson as Miles Morales (Because of his Nino Lahiffe from Miraculous)
Michelle Ruff as Mary Jane Watson (Because of her performance as Sinon from Sword Art Online)
Todd Haberkorn as Harry Osborn (Because of his appearance as Allen Walker from D. Gray-Man and Hikaru Hitachiin from Ouran High School Host Club)
And that's pretty much it! What do you think of my picks?!

[@Cress_ii]

I always thought it was funny how Spider-Man is red n blue and his best friends are the human torch and sometimes iceman

[@elspiderlionprgaming]

Since I was little I have always liked Spider-Man 🤘🏻

[@drewgeraci8434]

Great subject. BTW, I had the pleasure of inking Ty Templeton on a few pages shown here, one at 6:20.

[@NoName-ym5zj]

I always loved Spidey and Torch dynamic. They are both jokester types, but have completely different personalities that really contrast each other.

[@Ax-xN]

Don’t know why but this was a really heart warming video

[@silvertongue.242_99]

I know of spiderman and human torch close friendship and wish we see that dynamic more outside of the comics. I remember the Spiderman game where you have to race human torch around the city. My instance of them being best friends

[@voxdelalito]

Dope video!!! Keep at it, and maybe invest in a microphone. Your videos are entertaining but your audio hurts a bit!

[@davidfarrington4308]

Great video!

[@briandaleske5139]

I theorize that a storyline might be written, where M.C.U. Earth-616 Realm’s HumanTorch, will become best friends with (Miles Morales) SpiderMan.

[@G-LukeJA]

Just subscribed, good work my guy

[@Ahturos]

I do wish for a animated serie to have Peter and Johnny as friends. Spider-man PS1 game had some nice interactions and the Ultimate Game had those mini games.
I understand why you have Harry when you only have access to Spider-man characters. I mean would you rather have Flash? Actually I would like a Hobby as a fellow nerdy friend to Peter as he becomes the Prowler.

[@kalamari3843]

Completely agree.

[@Chalepastel]

I NEED the spider-mobile to come back in some way man

[@tajbullard1653]

I have a request please do a video on the friendship between Peter Parker/spider man and Matt Murdock/ daredevil thank you so much great video btw

[@Fenris30]

Matt's more Mentor then Friend.

[@user-bz3yt8pi3n]

I've been wondering why Peter and Harry are best friends. In the Raimi Trilogy, it's because Harry protected him in High School. But in the comics, Harry is more of a weakling, and he's not as smart as Peter, because he needs Peter to help him study and it's why Norman prefers Peter over Harry.

[@mageeaaron2624]

0:28 Amen! 🙏🏽💪

[@jg2722]

Now this is a possibility in the MCU

[@RealCFZ]

Even more interesting that F4 film is gonna take place to a different universe. Maybe we can see Peter and Johnny bonding over moving on from their home life.

[@salvatoreocello]

7:59 have you read the NEW ultimate Spider-Man?

[@payton-arts82395]

Yeah. I bought it as soon as it came out. Looking forward to the next issue.

[@sonofjackwell372]

Except the the Human Torch's best friend is Wyatt Wingfoot....

[@Boomerjojo79]

If they don't have this friendship in the MCU when Johnny Storm gets there I am going to cancel the MCU

[@lilblanco7318]

Bro u sound just like spiderman from the ultimate Spider-Man game lmao

[@mrgumelo4067]

Human torch best character no cap

[@danvernier198]

If the Human Torch was Spider-Mans best friend why wasn't he in Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends?

[@dylansearcy3966]

Harry osborn is still Peter's best friend

[@armandoguerra7658]

Ben Reilly for me

[@SuperSneedSwag]

Hell yeah

[@kenhill8272]

Facts 💯

[@arthurj.downeyjr_2013]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@junocrespo1774]

I'm sorry you're mistaken Spider-Man's true best friends are Bobby and Angelica just thought you would like to know

[@tylerj.o.7470]

I want Marvel to get really good at making the audience. See a clear hypocrisy when it comes to the x men and the fantastic four and how the public and police are completely okay and cooperate with the fantastic four versus Having hate crimes And being discriminatory against mutants and the x men Even though they too have saved people

[@thegreatacolyt1277]

He is not thats harry always has been always will be

[@Dpsnumber11]

Hop off my goats

[@deathbunny1718]

I always felt katty pride was a better female friend than Mary was.

[@azuresaiyan9005]

Peter and Kitty have no relationship in the main universe.

[@deathbunny1718]

@@azuresaiyan9005 did in ultimate

[@brynt.miller]

One of my favorite things about Spider-Man is that he seems to be liked by most other heroes. Like, even Wolverine (the embodiment of "Leave me alone") asked him to be with him on his birthday. He's just a nice kid with a good attitude and they probably see that as a breath of fresh air.

[@trevturp6891]

Harry didn't frequently treat Spiderman poorly in the movies and the tv shows. And James Franco's version of the character treated Spiderman poorly, because he thought that Spiderman had killed his dad.

[@loonytunescrazy]

To be fair he did in the comics and the fox's 90's animated series

[@trevturp6891]

The Human Torch isn't Spiderman's true best friend, Harry Osborn is Spiderman's true best friend.

[@indatube]

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