It's lowkey crazy to think that there's a reality where CN chose to invest their time and money in this connected universe project instead of the CN real garbage and probably made a whole bunch of money off it and today we'd still be seeing those shows crossing over and Ben prime would probably still be around since he'd be like the anchor for this verse
@toastghost342 this is personal opinion, I preferred Mr. Young, but they were all ass in general and I would've given them away in a heartbeat for the other option
The Generator Rex crossover and the Secret Saturdays was a given, but I did not know Symbiotic Titan was a 4th piece. Though that show died way too early it never got much of a chance sadly.
Man I remember watching adultswim when the 1st episode premiered, the animation style was like a samurai jack to ugggh I miss when it felt like adultswim gave a fuck
Man I remember obsessing over the little alien pet Tashy 497. That little blue and purple alien that if expired would blow up a planet. He had such a sad death and if they ever bring the show back I'd like to see him return somehow.
I hope one day Ben 10 comes back, like sheesh. Ben 10 can't ever get a break, a live action project cancelled, a shared universe cancelled like come on!!!!!
At least omniverse managed to reveal that secret saturdays was always part of them, even if it sidelines the secret saturdays somewhat and came out of nowhere.
Transformers Animated has a shared universe with Ben 10 Omniverse, as Ben has a designed Cybertronian mode named "Decimus Prime" hinted at in the episode "Auto Motives" Lockdown's hook and Grimlock's sword are also hunting trophies in Kyber's ship during early episodes
It's a real shame we never had MoAAU (Man of Action Animated Universe) this is why don't sell out and have to own your shit, someone needs to make a fanfic of this idea
I've been burned by action cartoons so many times that this genuinely makes me feel nothing. The execs and toy companies fucked SO MANY shows over that it's just easier to cut my heart off from it all. It still would've been cool though. Thanks for reminiding me about Symbiotic Titan at least, I never finished that one.
@joshuahackshaw7703 OH no I still LOVE these cartoons, hell, Ben 10 basically takes up half my brain capacity 24/7. What I meant is that I don't grieve over lost opportunities, cancelations, changed plans and such as much as I used to cus if I did, I'd just constantly feel depressed watching these shows. I love the stories themselves, it's the invisible hand screwing them over that I despise.
Movies and the green turbo did ma boi dirty but YES. And since bith Rex and Max can build virtually anything with the blueprints, I can imagine some crossover builds/modes.
It would be cool if the future Ben 10 comic does well enough they try to crossover again now that they would have more freedom. That comic is going to save lives.
Personally I think making Generator Rex it's own universe was for the best, the Nanite Lore was so bastly extended that mixing it with Cryptids, Aliens & cosmic lore would just convelude the things for worse, both franchises ended up meeting each other anyway despite sharing different continuites so, I think that was for the best
Agreed, it makes so much sense to me. Because if Generator Rex existed in the same universe as Ben 10 and Secret Saturdays then like, why don't we ever see or hear about Evos? With the aliens and cryptids at least they were largely isolated events, with a few notable exceptions (thinking about it it's kind of fun to imagine that while their respective end of the world scenarios were taking place, they were taking part of it and fighting their own battles off screen) Having it as an alt universe makes a lot more sense (as opposed to the reboot which is like "Oh this was always a thing going on, it was just never relevant") and creates interesting opportunities for how they would meet
Technically it could be considered an shared "universe" if you make Rex's world an alternate dimension or timeline rather then a seperate universe altogether.
@garg4531 maybe they could make a same thing like incursion were different universe collides with each other forming a new earth timeline like they could have done it in adult swim.What I mean by this is that they can make a huge threat were lot of heroes band together to stop this threat instead of alternate Ben's.
Even as a kid when watching the crossover I use to think this. I basically chose to not view it as “canon”(this was years before I learned the word and what it meant) and just viewed it as a fun movie. The base lore for each series just didn’t clash well
Same bro.. It's like a childhood memory that it is lost forever, I really wanted to that show to continue when I was a kid, it has something so special about it and every show back the had something special and soul
this is a perfect opportunity for Boom! Comics to make spin off comics for each show, similar to how Skybound is doing the same for Transformers and G.I.Joe
You know, I'm glad that this never happened because it wouldn't have made much sense. If Generator Rex was in the same universe as Ben 10, then why didn't Ben and his team help out Rex with the EVOs? Why didn't Rex and his team didn't help out Ben at any point? I'll give Omniverse credit in that the Secret Saturdays happened after Ben took off the Omnitrix. There are still holes, but it's more or less fine.
There's also the fact that the Saturday Family's whole deal is that they operate in Secret & covering their footprints, meanwhile Generator Rex covers a whole global pandemic catastrophy, so it's easy to see which one would fit in the Ben 10 lore the best
@@BrasilHotVibes That for Heroes United when the 4 shows being in the same universe was scrapped. I was referring to Rex and Ben being the same universe if the idea wasn't scrapped. Heroes United handled Ben 10 and Gen Rex crossing over perfectly since it went for the another dimension angle rather than they are in the same universe.
@@ArcTrooper269 That too. When Secret Saturday was taking place, it was after Ben took off the Omnitrix and before the events of Alien Force. The Secret Saturdays took place within that time zone, so it makes sense why Ben wasn't involved since he wasn't a hero at that time. Side note, I much prefer the alternate universe route for crossovers because it's much simpler to do the crossover. You don't really need to worry about two different show's lores clash with each other because the shows weren't made to be in the same universe in mind. For example, you can't have Date A Live and Ben 10 take place in the same universe for a crossover because the latter would have gotten involved with the former much sooner than what said crossover would say. Their lores also clash too much to have it take place in the same universe.
@tippy1731 it could make sense because Generator rex would've just taken place in the future, although i think it's for the better that it's just an alternate dimension like ben 23 although it can be argued that the event's of OG classice ben 10 storyline could've took place in generator rex's universe as well but when the explosion happened on earth ben got caught in it and died due to him not having access to alien x yet. Which explains why ben never is shown but there would still be a lot of holes there not filled in such as the plumbers? where's vilgax? Etc...
Okay, Ben 10 has already canonically 30 different universes and timelines at least, several of them already explored plus in the Prime timeline he share world with Secret Saturdays while in the reboot timeline there's already a reboot version of Gen Rex. Generator Rex has his own separated universe... While Symbionic Titan still forgotten by CN 😢
@@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24 Remember, Ben 10 has omniverse! Omniverse has every fictional universe possible in it. Which means Ben 10 can be crossovered with any show or franchise
With so many shows cancelled before their time and lockdowns making things worse, we’ve had less and less crossovers for the last several years. And we have to wait for a proposed shared universe to start for us to get to their first crossover! And not all of them are gonna be good like Sony’s Universe of Spider-Man Characters. I highly recommend this new indie cartoon called The Art of Murder! It’s not a crossover in the traditional sense but it is a crossover of different characters from different genres. The weird thing is a couple days before I found the show, I was just looking up “indie cartoon crossover” out of curiosity. The first thing that came out of that search was a review from Cartoon Universe of this show! And after watching this, I’m convinced it may be the best “crossover” ever!
Ben 10 and Generator Rex were really on a class of their own. Felt like we were getting anime-esque cartoons in America. The stories were insanely good. Once CN started showing shows like Uncle Grandpa and Clarence you could really see the decline. Glad I grew up in the prime of CN Kids Next Door, Fridays, Ed, Edd, and Eddy, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Batman Beyond, Batman The Animated Series, The Justice League, the original Teen Titans, and more.
You know, with the huge popularity of the multiverse in media lately and since they've been trying to reboot Ben 10 again, it's a perfect time to finally give all these worlds a chance again
Atleast we do have 5YL which Ik is Fanmade and isn’t exactly the same but the fact they went out of there way to make a shared multiverse makes it atleast cool
As cool as a shared universe would’ve been it probably for the best it didn’t happen, these series being in separate universes allowed for greater creativity and freedom with their stories and writing. Although saying that, I do wish they did more multiversal crossovers like Heroes United because that basically having your cake and eating it to, keeping the creative freedom but still getting to see these different characters interact.
First the news about the canceled live action movie, now this scrapped shared universe. I really hope there's not gonna be any more news about scrapped Ben 10 content
I feel like the best way it would have worked is if Symbiote Titans and Rex were in the same universe while Ben and the Saturdays were in a different universe. And then the two universe merge together and so that it wouldn’t effect the plot of the individual shows they can make a fifth show about a team of new characters who has a member that represents each show. It would allow for a crossover and it would be the only show whose plot revolves around the plot of the other 4 shows
12:10 If i remember correctly, at the end of Heroes United, we've seen Alpha's shell slowly breaking apart. I think it would have worked if one of the villains unleashed him again, for their own schemes, and as he escaped from the Null Void, into Ben and Saturdays universe, he is thought to be a cryptid. This lead both the teams to cooperate, and as Ben decides to contact Rex for help, Alpha steals whatever they used, to go in a dimension with enough technology to enhance him, leading to his appearence in the Sym Bionic Universe. I don't know, this feels both a natural evolution of the plot, and a quick way to bring them together.
Even as a child, generator rex x ben 10 made a lot of sense, since nanites are a thing in both of these shows although. I have mixed feelings on secret Saturdays x ben 10 as I recall that crossover making some retroactive changes to the secret Saturdays lore that I found kinda lame?? Rolling symbiotic titan into the mix would be strange, tho. Tone wise, I remember the show being serious and dark all the time, wich to me clashes heavily with the other 3
Sym bionic titan is interesting on how they would go about it with a crossover Saturdays and ben have enough similarities and events that don't contract each other to much while gen rex is so different that it makes sence for it to be in another dimension but with titan it could go either way with enough excuses so that would have been interesting to see
One live action from cn back then that im still pissed after all these years for being cancelled is tower prep, was sooooo good, the story, premise, and mystery
hands down, they should've done a connected universe where shows regularly crossed over and even developed others within this shared universe to expand upon it, and invest in various crossover movies/specials similar to heroes unite instead of doing an entire live action stint. the live action CN days were the dark ages. it could've been a renaissance era if they did a CNU
11:54 I mean, they can do it like Crisis on Infinite Earths? Most of their worlds get destroyed and whatever's left gets consolidated into a "Prime Earth" of some sort.
Yep, the best ways to make multiple shows share the same universe is to ensure that these series are about stories set in a small area. This is why DCAU and Arrowverse(until Arrowverse shows got weaker writing over time) worked.
6:14 This distribution and licensing rights issue also extends to legacy series being excluded from many big events that they seem like an otherwise glaring omission from. It's why Fairly OddParents haven't been in a NickToons crossover game on consoles since 2007, and why Crash Bandicoot never made it into Playstation All-Stars. On the topic of crossovers though, do you think you could talk about the CN Super Secret Crisis War comic that Ben 10 was a part of?
I think there’s a really cool way they could bring back all of them. I think there’s a very high possibility that they could just half reboot the entire universe. Have paradox fit into it And essentially start the entire thing As its own show. Skip over the origin stories and cut away a lot of the fat and bring us back up to speed. Maybe have the same dynamics as Omniverse, but then contextualize all of it into a new shared universe with everything already connected. Essentially have them all meet at a later time with paradox an eon being the only people who remembers the original timeline. And make that the crux of the show. Maybe have the show start where symbionic titan began with them arriving on earth. Or maybe Ben ending the summer when he’s 10 only to watch the news of the nanite event happening! Or maybe even Cryptid’s attacking the world. I think that would be a really cool way to integrate all of them.
My heart SANK when I saw that title and thumbnail… these shows, ESPECIALLY Ben 10, were a BIG part of my childhood! Maybe one day we can still somehow get those final 10 episodes of Sym-Bionic Titan… one day…
As much as I love these shows, I wouldn't want them to share a universe like the Avengers/MCU and just have their respective universe to not worry about lore and continuity. But would love them just do crossover specials where they travel to different universe like how Heroes United did
yeah the CN had problems back then with money, so they cancelled good cartoon shows that were gonna be the best like one of them was symbionic titan, next was ben 10 omniverse which was replace with a reboot since adults complained that it was too violent for kids.. and there were other good shows that were canceled too soon like teen titan 2003, DC Superhero girls 2019, generator rex, Firebreather, OK KO let's be heroes, and much more..! Let's hope Ben 10 comes back and it better.. or maybe Duncan might work with Adult swim for a remake
I think if there was to be a crossover, it should be just like the "Heroes United" one, with a space-time rift, except this time its Rex invanding the other character's world, since they're all already there anyways. Then make something about the EVO apocalypse also happening in this Universe, so Rex have stuff to do (since his signature is not just his weapons but also healing the EVOs). Though, I heard by the end of the series Rex becomes like a EVO god or something - I didn't watched the seasons, and its been a long while since I last seen the show, so Idk about that. Maybe Man of Action can reboot all of these series like they said they intend to, and make crossover the rebooted versions instead.
If CN invested in the CNAU then they would be the hottest channel right now. They could've crossover with FireBreather, and that is connected to invincible, so they could've had an empire
This would've been the coolest shared universe in my opinion. These 4 shows are my personal favorite cartoons in Cartoon Network (Add Regular Show to the list and we have a Top 5 Favorite CN Shows) 👍
im actually happy that ben 10 stayed mostly isloated, it feels like ben 10s whole world was so rich, i feel like making 3 more cartoons a part of it would make things so convoluted
They way they had cameos across shows and cn city era already made it feel like many of the shows were all in the same universe. Stuff like the Grim adventures of KND, a few foster''s home episodes, and so on made it feel like they could be in the same universe while also be comedic. (The biggest one outside of the KND and Grim crossover was the Fosters episode with the Eds and Dexter as cameos in the junkyard extremosaurs). It even made the mmo they had going for a while, fusion fall, actually feel possible. Like having stuff like Peach creek being near Pokey oaks, Endsville being near townsville, and so on actually feel somewhat realistic.
I rather they do a shared universe. It is always cool to see cool heroes interacting with one another. I doubt this will ever happen as Warner Bros. owned Cartoon Network. The former technically already have a superhero universe created by DC, which Warner Bros. also owned. However, the concept of a shared Cartoon Network action universe is interesting to me.
Cartoon Network is such a WB brand. They had fantastic and beloved shows and an opportunity to be at the forefront of pop culture, but completely dropped the ball and has since faded into obscrucity. The Cartoon Network of today is such a shell of its former self. And they've even dragged boomerang down with them. What really sucks is that aside from Ben 10 basically all of the shows were canceled before their time. Symbiotic Titan especially as it ended on a cliffhnager. The Secret Saturdays was my favorite CN show as a kid. It always hurt me how short it was and the rushed ending.
That crossover would have been heaven! Especially cause I binged Gen Rex and Sym Bionic Titan long after they finished airing and I'm glad I finally did cause younger me didn't watch these shows as much as Ben 10. Me now binging Secret Saturdays is going much slower but ever since watching that Ink Tank video I wanna 😢 😭! A crossover series connecting them all and maybe even other CN shows would have been heaven! Only fanarts, fan comics, fanfics and fan projects can give me that.
I'm not suprised Cartoon Network has a nasty habit of having cool shows and ideas, but decide not to put them on live TV. Instead they give us a marathon of BS garbage everyday. I miss the 90s.
Definitely would be curious on how would of happened all thoes shows are wildy different from the nanite plot that supposedly effecting the entire world to the time dimension shinaguns to the megazord battles and mystical monster shit would been cool to see
11:09 in my opinion all but Rex can be in same universe because ben didn't always have the Omittrix it's a 5-6 year period in which titan can happen without ben being able go hero. So Ben, Saturday and Titan in one world, then Rex separate.
I’m not finna lie after watching this video he’s one of my top 5 favorite UA-camrs I loved all of these shows as a kid I wish they had made more of them and even more episodes of all show he talked about I remember being a lil kid ready to watch Rex and ben10 fight a aliens and monster
Honestly, as much as I would've LOVED to see this be revived and be a reality once again, even back then such a shared universe would've been impossible to do more especially after Omniverse. You know, what with the whole Black Hole Bomb erasing the universe and Ben having to recreate and remake it all as Alien X thing and all that.
Dendy tartakovsky cartoon Network/toonami shared universe. Dexter's Lab, Samurai Jack , symbiotic Titan, primal and Unicorn warriors eternal. I don't know if I'd want it straight to tv movie, or a limited series. But I just want huge crossover event celebrating all the shows he made for the network.
I like to imagine Sym-Bionic Titan crossing over with Generator Rex. Maybe even sharing a universe. That way we have an equal balance of shared universes between the four shows.
Dude, Ben 10 sharing a universe with some of these properties makes sense. Secret Saturdays made the most sense as neither Ben's group or TSS would actually have a reason to meet up unless their villains team up (which is why Ben met TSS in the first place). Generator Rex (which is WAY too underrated) would've made sense because of a similar reason. I liked that in the Ben 10 reboot they had that special with a rebooted Rex and Bobo, this was the perfect chance to have both Ben and Rex canonically share the same universe as both would've been rebooted. I know, a lot of people look down on the reboot. That was something that you had to allow grow on you. The only one that didn't make sense is Sym-Bionic Titan. I'm sorry, but other than it being the project of one Genndy Tartakovsky with his trademark art-style... too much of the universe of it just conflicts with Ben 10's own. Unless it got rebooted like Rex pretty much did, Sym-Bionic Titan would not fit well.
They can do it by merging their dimensions and each series will face the consequences of this new world they barely know anymore. Even go as far as to make it permananat. Alien X can't resolve this or the Celesapians come to actively forbid this action. This will remove Alien X from the crossover to solve it right away and raise the stakes for whatever the villain(s) would be. Ideally a "Negative 10" team up with villains from each show in the roaster. Eon is the easiest one to include because he can potientally cause this crossover to happen. Who would you guys add to the villain team?
I swear Megas XLR and Sym-Bionic Titan would be a bomb ass crossover special. It's too bad that both shows didn't really come out around the same time as each other since Megas came out in 2004 and Sym-Bionic in 2010. I remember a Twitter user by the name of Risefallnick was saying that Cartoon Network was supposed to have a crossover series based on the Cartoon Network City bumpers, but it never happened. He also posted a link to someone who interviewed a person who worked on the bumpers. It was a long time ago though.
Megas XLR and Sym Bionic Titan as a crossover would be doped. Imagine octus and liana's surprise on seeing Megas and how recklessly Coop fights meanwhile Lance wants to fight like Coop and I could imagine Coop throwing insults at the Hammer of General Steel.
I never watched Omniverse so I was not aware that Ben 10 crossed over with the secret Saturdays I knew about the generator Rex one and watched clips of it on UA-cam because I didn't really care for generator wrecks but wow and I could have sworn that show The secret Saturdays was over by the time Omniverse had even come out
It's lowkey crazy to think that there's a reality where CN chose to invest their time and money in this connected universe project instead of the CN real garbage and probably made a whole bunch of money off it and today we'd still be seeing those shows crossing over and Ben prime would probably still be around since he'd be like the anchor for this verse
In all fairness, Destroy Build Destroy was torch. but other than that, this wouldve been a much better option.
@toastghost342 this is personal opinion, I preferred Mr. Young, but they were all ass in general and I would've given them away in a heartbeat for the other option
I think of infinite realities alot negl and Cartoon Network staying good is the tip of the icebergs for what ifs
I blame Stuart Snyder
Dw, video AI will eventually be able to create the shared universe tv show
Missed opportunity to have Ben use Upgrade and merge with the Titan from Sym-bionic Titan
Or Way Big vs The Sym-bionic Titan.
That would be soooo Badass
has upgrade ever merged with something that big?
@@irasac1 it's upgrade the black green one-eyed alien.. Of course he would merge with something that big and size is not an issue
@@Omega-jg4oq do we know that for a fact?
The Generator Rex crossover and the Secret Saturdays was a given, but I did not know Symbiotic Titan was a 4th piece. Though that show died way too early it never got much of a chance sadly.
Symbiotic Titan was one of Genndy Tartakovsky's finest works. It's a shame that we couldn't get another season to at least wrap everything up.
Same, didn't know symbiotic titan conected to the ben 10 verse, but was one of cn best shows to date
Man I remember watching adultswim when the 1st episode premiered, the animation style was like a samurai jack to ugggh I miss when it felt like adultswim gave a fuck
It got written off
I’d love to see a Sym-Bionic Titan vid.
That show was way ahead of its time.
Fr. It's a shame it only got 1 season
I've never seen it. Where can I watch it?
@@hannahmetzger4880 kimcartoon
Man I remember obsessing over the little alien pet Tashy 497. That little blue and purple alien that if expired would blow up a planet. He had such a sad death and if they ever bring the show back I'd like to see him return somehow.
@@hannahmetzger4880 It was on MAX last I checked
I hope one day Ben 10 comes back, like sheesh. Ben 10 can't ever get a break, a live action project cancelled, a shared universe cancelled like come on!!!!!
Yeah but you gotta think about what it DID get - 3 series which spanned multiple series each. That and a reboot but...not my favorite one.
Hopefully the live action could actually be like the Netflix one piece
What Ben 10 REALLY NEEDS is a AAA game and an ANIME on adult swim,those are all the rage rn.
@ same
At least omniverse managed to reveal that secret saturdays was always part of them, even if it sidelines the secret saturdays somewhat and came out of nowhere.
Transformers Animated has a shared universe with Ben 10 Omniverse, as Ben has a designed Cybertronian mode named "Decimus Prime" hinted at in the episode "Auto Motives"
Lockdown's hook and Grimlock's sword are also hunting trophies in Kyber's ship during early episodes
That's some Tarentino type world building. Subtle, yet cool
that would be a big ask from hasbro, but I always considered TFA in omniverse's future timeline, or somewhere on the multiverse tree.
Decimus prime isn't Canon
@@chidaluokoro9104 The art designer said that OG Ben is the only one who can turn into a cybertronian. He also worked on both shows
@@SlashCraftJack yeah he worked on both shows. He did that for fun, not because it's connected.
It's a real shame we never had MoAAU (Man of Action Animated Universe) this is why don't sell out and have to own your shit, someone needs to make a fanfic of this idea
This closest we have to this is 5 years later from The Ink Tank which is a Danny Phantom and Ben 10 crossover. Rex makes an appearance as well
@no.1spidey-fan182
Yeah I know abut 5YL but that crossover just doesn't fit the mold
There is a fan comic and some animations on yt it's called team teen
Glad to collab with one for creating MoAAU!
are you so sure? after all, Man of Action worked on the Ultimate spider man and Avengers Assemble animations, which are a shared universe 😅
I've been burned by action cartoons so many times that this genuinely makes me feel nothing. The execs and toy companies fucked SO MANY shows over that it's just easier to cut my heart off from it all. It still would've been cool though.
Thanks for reminiding me about Symbiotic Titan at least, I never finished that one.
Oh wow well hopefully if you decide to get back to it you will enjoy some of the fire content
@joshuahackshaw7703 OH no I still LOVE these cartoons, hell, Ben 10 basically takes up half my brain capacity 24/7. What I meant is that I don't grieve over lost opportunities, cancelations, changed plans and such as much as I used to cus if I did, I'd just constantly feel depressed watching these shows.
I love the stories themselves, it's the invisible hand screwing them over that I despise.
@ oh I see good to hear
The second iteration of Max Steel that premiered in 2013 would have been perfect for this universe.
HARD AGREE!
Max Steel & Gen Rex!
Have them share a universe too
YES, that would be so cool
I'm glad someone still remember max steel 👍
FAAAAACTS🔥💯
Movies and the green turbo did ma boi dirty but YES. And since bith Rex and Max can build virtually anything with the blueprints, I can imagine some crossover builds/modes.
Generator rex is mad underrated nobody I know has ever heard of Generator Rex. I love it tho
Megas XLR and Sym Bionic Titan is way more underrated
Intro was amazing too.
@Ultras_450 megas Xlr was goated too but as touching as Gen Rex
@@owenkeys3937 Yesss the Band Orange is hard
@kattenbakmiauw you Dig Giant Robots
It would be cool if the future Ben 10 comic does well enough they try to crossover again now that they would have more freedom. That comic is going to save lives.
Future Ben 10 is such badass
Personally I think making Generator Rex it's own universe was for the best, the Nanite Lore was so bastly extended that mixing it with Cryptids, Aliens & cosmic lore would just convelude the things for worse, both franchises ended up meeting each other anyway despite sharing different continuites so, I think that was for the best
Agreed, it makes so much sense to me. Because if Generator Rex existed in the same universe as Ben 10 and Secret Saturdays then like, why don't we ever see or hear about Evos? With the aliens and cryptids at least they were largely isolated events, with a few notable exceptions (thinking about it it's kind of fun to imagine that while their respective end of the world scenarios were taking place, they were taking part of it and fighting their own battles off screen)
Having it as an alt universe makes a lot more sense (as opposed to the reboot which is like "Oh this was always a thing going on, it was just never relevant") and creates interesting opportunities for how they would meet
Technically it could be considered an shared "universe" if you make Rex's world an alternate dimension or timeline rather then a seperate universe altogether.
@garg4531 maybe they could make a same thing like incursion were different universe collides with each other forming a new earth timeline like they could have done it in adult swim.What I mean by this is that they can make a huge threat were lot of heroes band together to stop this threat instead of alternate Ben's.
Even as a kid when watching the crossover I use to think this. I basically chose to not view it as “canon”(this was years before I learned the word and what it meant) and just viewed it as a fun movie. The base lore for each series just didn’t clash well
Dude a crossover special or 1 season of these shows would’ve been peak & would’ve been a legendary moment in cartoon history
Mannn....i just want Symbionic Titan back
Same bro.. It's like a childhood memory that it is lost forever, I really wanted to that show to continue when I was a kid, it has something so special about it and every show back the had something special and soul
Titan, Way Big, Rex's full evo form and some sort of cryptid giant in a 4 way battle would be nuts.
this is a perfect opportunity for Boom! Comics to make spin off comics for each show, similar to how Skybound is doing the same for Transformers and G.I.Joe
You know, I'm glad that this never happened because it wouldn't have made much sense.
If Generator Rex was in the same universe as Ben 10, then why didn't Ben and his team help out Rex with the EVOs? Why didn't Rex and his team didn't help out Ben at any point?
I'll give Omniverse credit in that the Secret Saturdays happened after Ben took off the Omnitrix. There are still holes, but it's more or less fine.
In Ben 10 and Generator Rex: Heroes United is explained that Generator Rex takes place in another dimension
There's also the fact that the Saturday Family's whole deal is that they operate in Secret & covering their footprints, meanwhile Generator Rex covers a whole global pandemic catastrophy, so it's easy to see which one would fit in the Ben 10 lore the best
@@BrasilHotVibes That for Heroes United when the 4 shows being in the same universe was scrapped. I was referring to Rex and Ben being the same universe if the idea wasn't scrapped. Heroes United handled Ben 10 and Gen Rex crossing over perfectly since it went for the another dimension angle rather than they are in the same universe.
@@ArcTrooper269 That too. When Secret Saturday was taking place, it was after Ben took off the Omnitrix and before the events of Alien Force. The Secret Saturdays took place within that time zone, so it makes sense why Ben wasn't involved since he wasn't a hero at that time.
Side note, I much prefer the alternate universe route for crossovers because it's much simpler to do the crossover. You don't really need to worry about two different show's lores clash with each other because the shows weren't made to be in the same universe in mind.
For example, you can't have Date A Live and Ben 10 take place in the same universe for a crossover because the latter would have gotten involved with the former much sooner than what said crossover would say. Their lores also clash too much to have it take place in the same universe.
@tippy1731 it could make sense because Generator rex would've just taken place in the future, although i think it's for the better that it's just an alternate dimension like ben 23 although it can be argued that the event's of OG classice ben 10 storyline could've took place in generator rex's universe as well but when the explosion happened on earth ben got caught in it and died due to him not having access to alien x yet. Which explains why ben never is shown but there would still be a lot of holes there not filled in such as the plumbers? where's vilgax? Etc...
Okay, Ben 10 has already canonically 30 different universes and timelines at least, several of them already explored plus in the Prime timeline he share world with Secret Saturdays while in the reboot timeline there's already a reboot version of Gen Rex.
Generator Rex has his own separated universe...
While Symbionic Titan still forgotten by CN 😢
Sym Bionic Titan would have been cool if it was crossovered with Megas XLR
Ben 10 has the whole Cartoon Network catalogue in his multiverse really
@@metalsonic4.1therobothedge24 Remember, Ben 10 has omniverse! Omniverse has every fictional universe possible in it. Which means Ben 10 can be crossovered with any show or franchise
@Ultras_450 and in a way already had, from the Justice League to Dexter to PPG OK K.O Foster Mansion, Chowder and Villains
@@MorphingGrid101 ya got a point
With so many shows cancelled before their time and lockdowns making things worse, we’ve had less and less crossovers for the last several years. And we have to wait for a proposed shared universe to start for us to get to their first crossover! And not all of them are gonna be good like Sony’s Universe of Spider-Man Characters.
I highly recommend this new indie cartoon called The Art of Murder! It’s not a crossover in the traditional sense but it is a crossover of different characters from different genres. The weird thing is a couple days before I found the show, I was just looking up “indie cartoon crossover” out of curiosity. The first thing that came out of that search was a review from Cartoon Universe of this show! And after watching this, I’m convinced it may be the best “crossover” ever!
0:06 acutally they met again this time In Ben's verse in a comic
Doesn’t count
@schemar17 yes it does how does it not count they littreally meet again.
Ben 10 and Generator Rex were really on a class of their own. Felt like we were getting anime-esque cartoons in America. The stories were insanely good.
Once CN started showing shows like Uncle Grandpa and Clarence you could really see the decline. Glad I grew up in the prime of CN Kids Next Door, Fridays, Ed, Edd, and Eddy, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Batman Beyond, Batman The Animated Series, The Justice League, the original Teen Titans, and more.
Oh what I'd give to have these shows back
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For some reason I can’t imagine Genndy wanting Titan to be apart of something else
You know, with the huge popularity of the multiverse in media lately and since they've been trying to reboot Ben 10 again, it's a perfect time to finally give all these worlds a chance again
Again?! OMG
Atleast we do have 5YL which Ik is Fanmade and isn’t exactly the same but the fact they went out of there way to make a shared multiverse makes it atleast cool
I legitimately never put together Symbiotic Titan could have crossedover with the other CN ManofAction stuff, we were robbed of such a good timeline😭
Facts 🎯😭
As cool as a shared universe would’ve been it probably for the best it didn’t happen, these series being in separate universes allowed for greater creativity and freedom with their stories and writing.
Although saying that, I do wish they did more multiversal crossovers like Heroes United because that basically having your cake and eating it to, keeping the creative freedom but still getting to see these different characters interact.
First the news about the canceled live action movie, now this scrapped shared universe. I really hope there's not gonna be any more news about scrapped Ben 10 content
I feel like the best way it would have worked is if Symbiote Titans and Rex were in the same universe while Ben and the Saturdays were in a different universe. And then the two universe merge together and so that it wouldn’t effect the plot of the individual shows they can make a fifth show about a team of new characters who has a member that represents each show. It would allow for a crossover and it would be the only show whose plot revolves around the plot of the other 4 shows
I would’ve been stoked to see all 4 crossover, there could’ve been a universal merge like with Crisis on Infinite Earths
A connected universe like this was exactly what fusionfall was. Even had its own manga
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If i remember correctly, at the end of Heroes United, we've seen Alpha's shell slowly breaking apart.
I think it would have worked if one of the villains unleashed him again, for their own schemes, and as he escaped from the Null Void, into Ben and Saturdays universe, he is thought to be a cryptid. This lead both the teams to cooperate, and as Ben decides to contact Rex for help, Alpha steals whatever they used, to go in a dimension with enough technology to enhance him, leading to his appearence in the Sym Bionic Universe.
I don't know, this feels both a natural evolution of the plot, and a quick way to bring them together.
I see Sym Bionic Titan, I click.
Even as a child, generator rex x ben 10 made a lot of sense, since nanites are a thing in both of these shows although. I have mixed feelings on secret Saturdays x ben 10 as I recall that crossover making some retroactive changes to the secret Saturdays lore that I found kinda lame?? Rolling symbiotic titan into the mix would be strange, tho. Tone wise, I remember the show being serious and dark all the time, wich to me clashes heavily with the other 3
Sym bionic titan is interesting on how they would go about it with a crossover
Saturdays and ben have enough similarities and events that don't contract each other to much while gen rex is so different that it makes sence for it to be in another dimension but with titan it could go either way with enough excuses so that would have been interesting to see
Why Octus look like Peter Griffin 7:35 7:57
One live action from cn back then that im still pissed after all these years for being cancelled is tower prep, was sooooo good, the story, premise, and mystery
hands down, they should've done a connected universe where shows regularly crossed over and even developed others within this shared universe to expand upon it, and invest in various crossover movies/specials similar to heroes unite instead of doing an entire live action stint. the live action CN days were the dark ages. it could've been a renaissance era if they did a CNU
11:54 I mean, they can do it like Crisis on Infinite Earths? Most of their worlds get destroyed and whatever's left gets consolidated into a "Prime Earth" of some sort.
I didn't know about some of this trivia, especially on the Secret Saturdays side as I didn't really watch too much of it as a kid. Great video 👏
Yep, the best ways to make multiple shows share the same universe is to ensure that these series are about stories set in a small area. This is why DCAU and Arrowverse(until Arrowverse shows got weaker writing over time) worked.
6:14 This distribution and licensing rights issue also extends to legacy series being excluded from many big events that they seem like an otherwise glaring omission from. It's why Fairly OddParents haven't been in a NickToons crossover game on consoles since 2007, and why Crash Bandicoot never made it into Playstation All-Stars.
On the topic of crossovers though, do you think you could talk about the CN Super Secret Crisis War comic that Ben 10 was a part of?
Some one should make a Bionicle Lore level fanfiction of this crossover idea.
It would be doped.
I think there’s a really cool way they could bring back all of them.
I think there’s a very high possibility that they could just half reboot the entire universe. Have paradox fit into it And essentially start the entire thing As its own show. Skip over the origin stories and cut away a lot of the fat and bring us back up to speed. Maybe have the same dynamics as Omniverse, but then contextualize all of it into a new shared universe with everything already connected. Essentially have them all meet at a later time with paradox an eon being the only people who remembers the original timeline. And make that the crux of the show. Maybe have the show start where symbionic titan began with them arriving on earth. Or maybe Ben ending the summer when he’s 10 only to watch the news of the nanite event happening! Or maybe even Cryptid’s attacking the world. I think that would be a really cool way to integrate all of them.
My heart SANK when I saw that title and thumbnail… these shows, ESPECIALLY Ben 10, were a BIG part of my childhood! Maybe one day we can still somehow get those final 10 episodes of Sym-Bionic Titan… one day…
As much as I love these shows, I wouldn't want them to share a universe like the Avengers/MCU and just have their respective universe to not worry about lore and continuity. But would love them just do crossover specials where they travel to different universe like how Heroes United did
That would have been such an amazingly crossover
I say that the 1990s and 2000s of cartoon network made sense but after the 2010s everything on cartoon network stopped making sense.
yeah the CN had problems back then with money, so they cancelled good cartoon shows that were gonna be the best like one of them was symbionic titan, next was ben 10 omniverse which was replace with a reboot since adults complained that it was too violent for kids.. and there were other good shows that were canceled too soon like teen titan 2003, DC Superhero girls 2019, generator rex, Firebreather, OK KO let's be heroes, and much more..! Let's hope Ben 10 comes back and it better.. or maybe Duncan might work with Adult swim for a remake
I've never wanted something I never even knew about so much
I think if there was to be a crossover, it should be just like the "Heroes United" one, with a space-time rift, except this time its Rex invanding the other character's world, since they're all already there anyways. Then make something about the EVO apocalypse also happening in this Universe, so Rex have stuff to do (since his signature is not just his weapons but also healing the EVOs). Though, I heard by the end of the series Rex becomes like a EVO god or something - I didn't watched the seasons, and its been a long while since I last seen the show, so Idk about that. Maybe Man of Action can reboot all of these series like they said they intend to, and make crossover the rebooted versions instead.
If CN invested in the CNAU then they would be the hottest channel right now. They could've crossover with FireBreather, and that is connected to invincible, so they could've had an empire
This would've been the coolest shared universe in my opinion. These 4 shows are my personal favorite cartoons in Cartoon Network (Add Regular Show to the list and we have a Top 5 Favorite CN Shows) 👍
im actually happy that ben 10 stayed mostly isloated, it feels like ben 10s whole world was so rich, i feel like making 3 more cartoons a part of it would make things so convoluted
They way they had cameos across shows and cn city era already made it feel like many of the shows were all in the same universe. Stuff like the Grim adventures of KND, a few foster''s home episodes, and so on made it feel like they could be in the same universe while also be comedic. (The biggest one outside of the KND and Grim crossover was the Fosters episode with the Eds and Dexter as cameos in the junkyard extremosaurs). It even made the mmo they had going for a while, fusion fall, actually feel possible. Like having stuff like Peach creek being near Pokey oaks, Endsville being near townsville, and so on actually feel somewhat realistic.
The fact that shows can get canceled just because it doesn’t sell toys is nuts
I rather they do a shared universe. It is always cool to see cool heroes interacting with one another. I doubt this will ever happen as Warner Bros. owned Cartoon Network. The former technically already have a superhero universe created by DC, which Warner Bros. also owned. However, the concept of a shared Cartoon Network action universe is interesting to me.
Cartoon Network is such a WB brand. They had fantastic and beloved shows and an opportunity to be at the forefront of pop culture, but completely dropped the ball and has since faded into obscrucity. The Cartoon Network of today is such a shell of its former self. And they've even dragged boomerang down with them. What really sucks is that aside from Ben 10 basically all of the shows were canceled before their time. Symbiotic Titan especially as it ended on a cliffhnager. The Secret Saturdays was my favorite CN show as a kid. It always hurt me how short it was and the rushed ending.
MAN NO WAY I'm shedding a tear for what could have been and with all my show bibles I made when I was little I'm surprised I didn't catch this
In another world, this became a reality.
This would've had child me in a daily mind-blown state
A moment of silence for Cartoon Network's other shared universe, CN City, which I'm pretty sure these characters never got to be a part of either.
That crossover would have been heaven! Especially cause I binged Gen Rex and Sym Bionic Titan long after they finished airing and I'm glad I finally did cause younger me didn't watch these shows as much as Ben 10. Me now binging Secret Saturdays is going much slower but ever since watching that Ink Tank video I wanna 😢 😭! A crossover series connecting them all and maybe even other CN shows would have been heaven! Only fanarts, fan comics, fanfics and fan projects can give me that.
I remembered the channel talking about it. I waited and waited 😢
Time for some retroactive crossover fanfiction!! :3.
Woah an ink tank cameo? Awsome
Disney did the same thing with Avengers Earth's mightiest heroes, Wolverine and the X-Men, & Spectacular Spider-Man
I wish generator Rex had more seasons
Fusion Fall should’ve been REAL
I dream of a share universe of Ben 10, Danny phantom, Jake long American dragon, generator Rex, Sym bionic titan, secret Saturday a d max steel 2013
Reminds me of my late love FusionFall
I'd love if it was something huge that forced a permanent merger of the worlds (this would create an avenue for a ton of new and more unique stories).
These thumbnails are awesome
Symbiotic titan needs to continue it drove me nuts that they cut it off when they did
I'm not suprised Cartoon Network has a nasty habit of having cool shows and ideas, but decide not to put them on live TV. Instead they give us a marathon of BS garbage everyday. I miss the 90s.
Definitely would be curious on how would of happened all thoes shows are wildy different from the nanite plot that supposedly effecting the entire world to the time dimension shinaguns to the megazord battles and mystical monster shit would been cool to see
11:09 in my opinion all but Rex can be in same universe because ben didn't always have the Omittrix it's a 5-6 year period in which titan can happen without ben being able go hero. So Ben, Saturday and Titan in one world, then Rex separate.
I THINK WE SHOULD DO AA PEITION FOR A CNU CROSSOVER
I wish Someone like Sony buys the Man of Action IPs from WBD, make Reboot them under a Shared Canon.
I’m not finna lie after watching this video he’s one of my top 5 favorite UA-camrs I loved all of these shows as a kid I wish they had made more of them and even more episodes of all show he talked about I remember being a lil kid ready to watch Rex and ben10 fight a aliens and monster
My guess is that CN could not be bothered to invest in quality animation and story and instead funded a bunch of nonsense like: what we have now.
Cool Universe idea
they have that one jellystone crososver that apparently will show the original ben 10 continuity so i hope we see rex , ss, sbt 🎉
The thing is that sym bionic Titan After It's cancellation was later written off meaning It can't come back
Fusionfall rly was the closest we got to a shared CN world 😭
Honestly, as much as I would've LOVED to see this be revived and be a reality once again, even back then such a shared universe would've been impossible to do more especially after Omniverse. You know, what with the whole Black Hole Bomb erasing the universe and Ben having to recreate and remake it all as Alien X thing and all that.
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The idea of CN doing a CNAU is just freaking genius to me and sadly they fumbled due to bts crap unfortunately, but great video
Dendy tartakovsky cartoon Network/toonami shared universe. Dexter's Lab, Samurai Jack , symbiotic Titan, primal and Unicorn warriors eternal.
I don't know if I'd want it straight to tv movie, or a limited series. But I just want huge crossover event celebrating all the shows he made for the network.
I like to imagine Sym-Bionic Titan crossing over with Generator Rex.
Maybe even sharing a universe.
That way we have an equal balance of shared universes between the four shows.
Dude, Ben 10 sharing a universe with some of these properties makes sense. Secret Saturdays made the most sense as neither Ben's group or TSS would actually have a reason to meet up unless their villains team up (which is why Ben met TSS in the first place). Generator Rex (which is WAY too underrated) would've made sense because of a similar reason. I liked that in the Ben 10 reboot they had that special with a rebooted Rex and Bobo, this was the perfect chance to have both Ben and Rex canonically share the same universe as both would've been rebooted. I know, a lot of people look down on the reboot. That was something that you had to allow grow on you. The only one that didn't make sense is Sym-Bionic Titan. I'm sorry, but other than it being the project of one Genndy Tartakovsky with his trademark art-style... too much of the universe of it just conflicts with Ben 10's own. Unless it got rebooted like Rex pretty much did, Sym-Bionic Titan would not fit well.
Gotta love that cartoon network cancelled symbionic titan for a bunch of GOD AWFUL live action trash heaps.
Great vid had to subscribe.
These shows crossed over multiple times
And remember that ninjago crossover mannn what do mean there's no such thing as a ninjago crossover
Ninjago crossover? You mean with Chima?
If nothing does really happen I have been making a fan fic to continue to. The Ben 10 generator Rex and secret Saturdays universe
Dude you have to do a video on Sym Bionic Titan.That show was firee
They can do it by merging their dimensions and each series will face the consequences of this new world they barely know anymore. Even go as far as to make it permananat. Alien X can't resolve this or the Celesapians come to actively forbid this action. This will remove Alien X from the crossover to solve it right away and raise the stakes for whatever the villain(s) would be. Ideally a "Negative 10" team up with villains from each show in the roaster. Eon is the easiest one to include because he can potientally cause this crossover to happen. Who would you guys add to the villain team?
I swear Megas XLR and Sym-Bionic Titan would be a bomb ass crossover special. It's too bad that both shows didn't really come out around the same time as each other since Megas came out in 2004 and Sym-Bionic in 2010.
I remember a Twitter user by the name of Risefallnick was saying that Cartoon Network was supposed to have a crossover series based on the Cartoon Network City bumpers, but it never happened. He also posted a link to someone who interviewed a person who worked on the bumpers. It was a long time ago though.
Megas XLR and Sym Bionic Titan as a crossover would be doped. Imagine octus and liana's surprise on seeing Megas and how recklessly Coop fights meanwhile Lance wants to fight like Coop and I could imagine Coop throwing insults at the Hammer of General Steel.
I never watched Omniverse so I was not aware that Ben 10 crossed over with the secret Saturdays I knew about the generator Rex one and watched clips of it on UA-cam because I didn't really care for generator wrecks but wow and I could have sworn that show The secret Saturdays was over by the time Omniverse had even come out