"It's diff 10, it's meant to be hard!" It's only really hard because you are not in control of your character 85% of the time. Make Diff 11 just disable your keyboard when a bot sees you for the REAL challenge.
Pretty much, most my deaths were out of my control throughout many attempts. Getting ragdolled from a rocket that didn't even hit me at the start of the vid sums up the experience
@@OhDoughI feel it’s also important to know that since this is a team game, they balanced not around one player, and I’m not talking about how many enemies spawn, although that’s an obvious factor, the main reason for so many ragdolls is that since your one player, ALL enemies focus on you, as opposed to 4 people, so you get hit with everything they’ve got, the amount of ragdoll deaths with a full group are far less in my experience
@Rocket_Devastator if it takes this long for a reason to add or not to change something then it is not a PVE change or add because you really need to make sure ONE side to be happy and right now the Ai gets more buff while the side that make the game alive gets more weaker and almost every new weapon and others like armor 80% off the times are useless. I'm sorry, but you are defending people who use *realistic* changes only to make things harder for a PVE GAME
Same, just returned to the game after like a month, just to land in my first mission next to an Impaler that proceeded to play volleyball with my body for 5 minutes straight. Stims kept my body alive, but my spirit didn't survive.
@@Rocket_Devastator if they don't want people to play SP, make it impossible to do so. Since they support it, and indeed have specially lowered spawns, it needs to work well.
@@user-tt6oe2th6b No, they barely miss or hit you 60% of the time or more during these heavy fog storms and what not, the visual clutter does not effect NPCs but it does against the player, "realism" I'm sure AH devs would say.
It's significantly harder for enemies to spot you when they're not agro tho. It's still stupid that rocket devs can see you as if the storm wasn't there while in combat
@@hawk9mm In my experience, the storms make it way easier to fight bots because they barely fight back during storms. Their accuracy stays the same, but they lose agro very easily.
@@RogerNbr "The autocannon is perfectly balanced, so we're not going to touch it." Wonderful. You're going to bring everything up to its level then, right, since its the gold standard? "Oh? Oh, you think you're cute? Good. We're nerfing warbonds before they even come out because you're so goddamned stupid. Wah wah make the other guns good! Fuck you. Enjoy your zippo lighter...I mean flamethrower lolz."
its so mindblowing to me they havent nerfed autocannon but just nerfed the inc breaker bc a lot of people used it. I promise second on the list was autocannon. They literally just say whatever😭
I’ve been one hit killed by the striders with their new rockets while wearing heavy armor with the 50% reduction to explosives passive. Keep in mind that the rockets miss me by a few meters, it’s not even a direct hit. The problems with striders is they don’t telegraph when they launch their missiles and the missiles itself deal way too much damage. Ironically, the AT-AT cannons deal less damage than a striders rocket. The strider is one of the most dangerous enemies now.
that's what I'm saying! The new Strider missile attack is poorly telegraphed, one second he's standing the next he's already launched a missile at you it is wild.
And, not for nothing, but they are "immune to explosives" on like half their body because that's how explosives and concussion works I guess lol. I wish they gave them more fire power but no extra armor. Fighting a hundred glass cannons is fun. Fighting something that can one me & can take a full mag to the hip joint and still not die, & it's 100 Brothers who can also one shot me is fun for a little bit, but it just feels like another change that promotes avoidance. I don't mind getting one shotted, but if they can take 10 shots and bring tons of back up, it's a losing gamble more often than not. Is that the move? To make us fight less and run more?
New bugs I've found: The game is now forcing you to go ads for some reason. Other divers show as failed to extract even though they didn't fail. Other divers showing as level 0 consistently on extract. Reinforcement budget going to 0 as soon as someone gets on the pelican. Someone leaving the game just show as died for a few minutes. The spaghetti code is real.
@@monsterzeroonegood to know. Still not an excuse tho... If it's a shit engine, and the devs knew that, then they shouldn't have used it in the first place. The constant bugs are unacceptable at this point
I love all the people in the comments trying to be "helpful" or say OhDough is wrong for playing solo... My brother in Crest Toothpaste he fucking soloed super helldive with 20 min to spare after completing all main objectives... The game is not hard, even solo, it is just annoying because the player is not given decent tools to combat the challenge presented. Every time players figure out a decent way to deal with the latest bullshit, AH nerfs it and ramps up the annoyance factor without adding any real challenge. I completed a full helldive operation (all three missions) using nothing but the incendiary breaker and supply backpack in medic armor with the stim buff. Literally only shot my gun enough to keep hunters off me while just running past everything else and stimming through all the hits I took. There is literally no point in stopping to fight because you cannot bring enough dakka to deal with the hordes after the last major patch buffing spawns into the stratosphere. And I mean this as a group... I play with a 4 man team... they all just run around causing chaos and trying to stay alive and I complete objectives. Time was, we could actually roll around as a squad and clear a path, but those days are long gone. I'm sure some AH apologist will think to respond with some way that we are playing the game wrong or some excuse for why things should be as shitty as they are. Do yourself, and everyone else, a favor and remain seemingly smart by remaining silent rather than removing any doubt by speaking.
And you see, that's a major problem for me, I to could also probably solo super helldive, HOWEVER, the way I personally like to play horde shooters is oh I don't know; KILLING THINGS! If the only tangible way to beat the higher levels is to simply "run away like a bitch" then the devs can go fuck themselves. I bought this game to kill godless aliens and bots, not run away like a pussy.
You voiced the frustrations pretty clearly alright, can't say it better myself. You have to play the most efficient way or else you can't win, anything else and it's just unbearable
An update to this rant. Ran super helldives with my buds yesterday. Since we knew we were going into utter bullshit we decided to try meme builds and even attempted using the buddy back pack system. I ran a quesodilla canon and a crowd clear primary while taking teammate 1's AC back pack to load him. TM1 took the AC and the guard dog rover so he had a little extra add clear while mowing down medium armored enemies. TM2 brought a supply back pack to keep us stocked. We could not move from our drop location until we STOPPED trying to play as a team. We wracked up tons of kills and only heavies could get near us, but there was such a continuous wave of enemies that we just didn't have the fire power to punch through without scattering like rats. I'll say it louder for those in the back. AN AUTOCANNON WITH NEAR CONTINUOUS FIRE could not PUNCH THROUGH ENOUGH BUGS FOR US TO MOVE ANYWHERE!?! In the course of fighting off a single bug breach we went though nearly ALL of our ammo. Including the resupplies from the supply backpack... Yet, even after all of this fucking around and bringing VERY suboptimal builds once we started soloing as a group we still managed to complete all the objectives and one helldiver even managed to evac. >.> PS: We are only middle of the road players in terms of skill and we fuck around too much with blanket, team killing calldowns to even hold our game play to that level. I again state, AH only makes the game more annoying with their changes... not harder.
Fully agree. I like playing stealthy/scout builds, just running around doing optional and main objectives while having the smallest amount of time with enemy aggro to do my thing. But just because I enjoy doing that doesn't mean that it's fun for everyone else whose fantasy is mowing down waves and waves of enemies, big and small. Consistently when playing in higher difficulties it seems to me it becomes less worthwhile to engage the enemies and better to just run because you'll either be quickly outnumbered or ragdolled and subsequently killed because you couldn't fight back in any way to save yourself. This is a horder shooter, not temple run
I kinda hate the fact that just running around and not fighting breaches is the best way to go, like all the cinematic stuff of fighting the swarm or an army of bugs is lost cause fleeing and returning once they respawn is just outright the best move. Even with randoms everyone end up running separatedly and not fighting anything.
@@nagatodan you can and it is fairly easy (at least on pc) but there's no point in doing so. Hoped difficulty 10 would bring harder breaches and something to force the team into sticking together but it simply did not.
Bots already have too many ranged attackers with knockdown effects and yet Arrowhead in their infinite wisdom decides to add more enemies. Fighting bots is like being in a shed with someone throwing a bees nest inside and then whacking you around with a bat.
I mean, look at this comment thread. This is true but people are STILL saying the game is too easy. And saying it loudly which gives the impression that a lot of people want them to add more difficulty.
@@zelbinian Difficulty doesn't have to be about adding more annoying knock down / knock back effects. Bug Breaches could include multiple mini breaches around the main breach that spawns little enemies. Dropships could have jet pack bots blast off before the dropship deploys the rest. You can add more RNG events like Elite versions of enemies that home in on you and you get a warning about their presence. Like mini bosses (not the big bosses from HD1). Heck you could literally add neutral enemies from the planets to attack Helldivers or bots / bugs if you wanted to.
You're forgetting to frequently look behind yourself as you're running away, because the devs decided to make the enemy AI rubber band after you while they're not being looked at.
Truthfully, there is no empirical evidence proving it is EXACTLY this. It's the best explanation we have at the time. Sadly this game is hard to test with how inconsistent it is. If you're curious, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests SOMETHING is at play here. In my experience, I started noticing inconsistent enemy movement after the general enemy movement speed increase months ago. I would share the goog/redd post for convenience but yew tube would annihilate my comment. Search, "Enemies speed up when off screen and or to keep up with the player."
@Cosmis5 I doubt there is rubber banding. Enemies will increase their speed if they want to close the distance with you, and you can be looking at them. It's easy to notice with Striders, Hunters, troopers etc.
Super Helldive is just their official term for "Super Ballance Testing Sandbox" for beta-testers with a high frustration tolerance...pardon.. i meant "most skilled and experienced players" of course.
@@black_ghost1215 more like "We saw that the usage rates of the dive mechanic and the map were very high, so we've tuned them down so you can only dive at full stamina and you have to crouch and stay still in order to use the map. These mechanics were simply overpowered as demonstrated by our spreadsheets across the player population. "
There is a difference between something being boring and just not fun. Getting tossed around by rockets and cannons all of the time isn't boring (at least for me), but that doesn't make it fun.
I feel like Arrowhead is just trying way too hard to be From Software. People see FromSoft getting respect for making high-difficulty, high-skill-curve games and they think “if we make games that are difficult, people will think we’re a big boy studio too!” I just want to play a game that is fun; games that are too hard to play aren’t fun, they’re just a grind
nope they are just trying to get to the level of insanity that hd1 offered, sadly this game attracted a whole new crowd who think they should breeze trough every non heavy armored enemy with a primary because fun!
@@aldintv7687 lol, if primaries need half their mag to kill one basic enemy, the primaries are too weak. They don’t kill basic enemies, they don’t kill heavies, what are primaries even for? Your stratagems should deal with heavies, your primary weapon should deal with the smaller swarms.
@@aldintv7687 Ikr? These new pl3bs coming in here thinking that you can make the game difficult by some other "fun" way other than endlessly stunlocking them, having enemies ragdol them out of 1 meter thick solid cover by shooting a rocket on the opposite side of said cover. One bullet headshot only gets you down to 20hp, and the basic chaff only shoots in 3 bullet bursts. Just stick your head in cover and be skillful enough to invoke good luck in the form of that random rocket wielding enemy that is around every corner not to blast you out of it, even if he misses. If you get rocket combo'd across the map by rocket guys continuously ragdolling you over and over before you even get the chance to stand up from the initial ragdol is really just a skill issue. Only 50% of enemies have rockets, and only 100% of them stunlock you if they even hit the same continent you are on. Also imagine thinking your primary should be able to dispatch tier 1 enemies like ROFL!!!
@@aldintv7687But hd1 actually had really good guns that killed enemies? And the first game also had anti tank guns that were actually anti tank. At this point arrowhead should just copy paste hd1 weapons with the upgrade system instead of 2 mediocre guns and a shitty perk coming every warbond.
@@321Isotope The thing is, in HD1 it was just like that, take the hd1 brood commander for example you could very well magdump him and you probably wouldn't even pop his head with something like a ARL-justice, this is so non at support weapons shinned, mg, flamer etc. tbh the moment primaries can take all medium enemies easily all non high pen support weapons go to shit, and that's just how the game seems to be designed, primaries in helldivers 1 and 2 are JUST guns just spawn in with to partially cover a niche that a support weapon does better.
"Avoid combat and stealth the objectives, avoiding reinforcements" Uhhh... This IS a *WAVE SHOOTER* right? I didn't intend to purchase a shitty horror game where you're so outmatched the whole time because you're supposed to be hiding and running away
No, this is not a wave shooter. Never was. I don't like the balance of the game as things need buffs but I hate how people like you muddy the waters with really dumb statements like that.
@@kato093 It's a team based extraction shooter where sometimes the best method for accomplishing objectives is for the team to break away in 4 different directions so that the whole team isn't bogged down in a positive feedback loop of patrols spawning patrols for 15 minutes when each round has a finite time limit. It's design sometimes encourages the opposite of it's supposed creators intent and they don't seem to understand that. Hence the near constant change to weapons and stratagems to enforce some theoretical game that the community doesn't actually play.
The worst part is watching the community split we have discord/HD2 reddit sucking AH off as if they've improved the game tenfold and then we have youtube/hd reddit which are just SHREDDING the game balance usually with videos to accompany it. To me it makes no sense seeing all this "git gud" nonsense if the top 10% of gamers(Dough is probably in here) desperately struggle in solo without abusing weird game mechanics like luring breaches. Also the new flamethrower visual offends me who approved this?!
Bro, doesn't make sense playing this game solo, you can go solo in a team. It is Dough problem ifnhe wants to go with no team at all, I can perfectly play as lonewolf with a team. From like 15 games of lvl 10 diff, I have won like 12 I think, you all complainingmfor nothing.
Run ended by the classic ragdoll into thornbush/sharpwires combo, if only they could reduce the explosion radius for automaton rockets to reduce ragdolls
I couldn't believe it unless I had not seen it. For a game to go from the top to the bottom in less than a month is insane. we are talking this game was a mine made of solid gold and the developers and Sony decided to seal the mine up and go looking for another gold mine that is less profitable. It's pathetic in terms of being competent or intelligent with decisions.
Its a huge issue in a HORDE SHOOTER, to make engaging the horde something to be avoided. You should want to engage the horde and have the tools to do it, as long as you are playing decently well and using some tactics. The mission is secondary to blasting bots and bugs. Keep the goal, and what is fun for players, in fucking FOCUS Arrowhead!
it should be a choose what fits you playstyle, giving us the tools to handle ourselves with challenging enemies not just spam and unfair mechanics. Somehow it wrong to wanna be a super trooper raining bullets onto the hoard, it somehow wrong to wanna stealth your way behind enemy lines, nope we get the oh crap that to many we gotta run.
Game got terminal cancer, the last update and space marine 2s release will be the final nail in the coffin. Deep Rock Galactic, l4d2, and killing floor 2 are my go too PvE games now. RiP Helldivers, killed via Devs incompetence.
6:19 My man got baited destroying his own bomb. For context, patchnotes says you can detonate hellbomb by shooting if it's armed, but apparently this new feature doesn't work. Now I have to deal with my face being red cause I've never facepalmed so hard .
climbing used to be way better...we used to be able to climb that 29:23 . Also the fact that you can't go through there 19:16 makes no sense, you can do way better AH, i know you can.
I love how absurd 10 is but the one big issue I have is the lack of standard units. 10 just feels like they replaced every warrior with alphas which makes a lot of weapons utterly useless. Only weapons that are designed for medium units seem to excel. I was hoping the difficulty was gonna be hundreds of warriors, and hunters, supplemented with a few more medium and heavy units. But that's really not the case. I see more commanders than warriors or hoppers on 10.
@@FEWGEE1 it’s been part of the game since launch. Quit whining and soldier up. Freedom doesn’t care if you ragdoll. Complete the mission as limp as your erectionless dick(because your sex privileges have been revoked once again) For Super Earth! 🌏
i'd LOVE to have the dark-matter backpack again, that thing was fun AF, it made the inadequacies of the mainline jump-pack all too apparent. Also, the "hellpods can't pass these invisible walls surrounding objectives so 95% of the time your landing is on-rails" while enemies can crawl out of the ground underneath the extraction shuttle or on that removed base-defence/survivor-extractor mission is a classic AH example of "rules for thee, but not for your enemies, they get to do EVERYTHING they want" BS.
I was so close to finishing a solo Helldive to destroy orbital cannons, and I shit you not a flame hulk just SCP-106ed through the cannon and sliced me the fuck up. It's really busted.
You hit the nail on the head. I want to fight a ton of enemies but not feel like I’m constantly getting overwhelmed. I don’t want to have to skip drops and breaches. I love shooting down a drop ship!
The Autocannon and AMR are the only viable support weapons left in the game. Even then, the AC is pretty exclusive to the bot front, while also requiring a backpack slot and the AMR is exclusively for the bot front. On the bug front, there isn't a single support weapon that can handle the new speed, armor, and aggression of the enemies and justify it's place in a load out over an Eagle or Orbital. Personally, I have found much more success running breaker incendiary with supply pack, stuns, and 3 strats because mobility is key and airial suppression of bug breaches is the only way to prevent being overwhelmed (and even then you need to be on point). Currently, I am running the orbital gatling, OPS, and cluster bombs and I'm willing to bet this load out will become the new meta (which means the supply pack will be nerfed next). It's become painfully clear that AH has no idea what they are doing with weapon balance and it has become indefensible. In their attempt to deversify the play styles of divers (in a PVE game which is insane to begin with) they went the nerf route without understanding why the upper tier players in the community were using certain weapons (hint: they were the ONLY viable ones). Instead of taking a long hard look at why most weapons are not viable on levels 9 and 10 (where most players are playing) they simply look at data metrics, nerf, and test things on level 6 (rofl). You can really tell how disconnected they are when you watch the dev team attempt to play their own game - so painful. They are spreadsheet balancing, everyone knows it, and it will kill their game. Don't even get me started with how they thought 2 super samples and 4 rare samples was a "huge reward" for taking out a mega nest... I'm a day one, level 150 helldiver who has been here through every update and it has gotten to the point where I don't expect a single thing from the warbonds and actively dread their new updates. Sad
@@roar104 The problem with the auto cannon on the bug front is it is too ammo starved. It isn't viable on level 10 unless you are being carried by teammates. Supply pack is significantly better than Autocannon for bugs. Supply+Breaker Incendiary is the new Mets. Trust
@@bchernyha just don't shoot the trash with the AC lmao. Either that or have your friend resupply you once or twice if you spam it at everything. Or maybe just be the guy sucking up all the ammo boxes around the ground. If the AC is ammo starved there's not a single support weapon that isn't in the game.
idk why youre playing, i mean content but your suffering isnt worth it lol. AH doesnt care, and is gonna do what they want. literally doesnt matter what we say theyre gonna do what they want, and have proven that time and time again. The nade pistol “buff” is a joke and we shouldnt be like “at least we got this” thats such a bad way to look at it. Game has issues purely because the devs go out of their way to make the game straight up unfun. They know what theyre doing, its been months. they dont deserve anymore excuses. GG hd2, even if they fix it all they did this for no reason other then they wanted, knowing we would hate it. Im good.
I've experience far worse for the sake of content. I do enjoy the challenge I just wish it wasn't so arbitrary. I like to have these video's as proof that I know what I'm talking about even if they don't reach the people that need convincing. it took me like an hour to beat this mission, I've spent far longer trying to beat other missions
@@OhDough yea makes sense, thanks for responding. i just wish the devs werent so disconnected, claiming to be “super active in the community”. Then they claim they dont know what to add/didnt know we wouldnt like it bc of the community. If youre involved, you should know right? makes no sense.
@paparoach3071 Yes and no. The community is somewhat fragmented, with some people claiming even now that the game is boring because it is too easy please make harder and others complaining that it is impossible to win due to nerfs and all the weapons need a massive damage boost, like buff everything its all not good enough. So, as a developer, who do you listen to? Some people love stealth others want to shoot their way to victory. Which way do you balance? I think arrowhead is shooting themselves in the foot by trying to do both sides at once.
@@Wwillswords thats what im saying. pick a side. Clearly one out weighs the other. NFW do the “skill issue” people out weigh the amount of complaints thats been happening for MONTHS. I mean they keep thinking its PvP so maybe they are the skill issue people. I understand what youre saying and i do agree to an extent but it should be obvious that the “its too easy” people are just blowing smoke up their ass. If its that easy for 35% of the playerbase then good for them, dont ruin it for everyone else. Go play another game, because i promise you its not “too easy” or a “skill issue”. Internet culture is so toxic its literally ruining the game. This is borderline toxic, with the devs and community. CEO promised no more nerfs, first thing he did was nerf. Its all just way too much at this point and its their fault. They let it get to this point. As soon as the Arc thrower was nerfed people went insane, we literally fought Sony and WON. It should be clear we want whats best, not another “harder” gamemode because its “too easy”. I feel disrespected as a player and a buyer of this game. They literally could care less.
@paparoach3071 i didn't get that sense from what you wrote, so my bad. Instead, I got the sense that you thought the devs were out of touch rather than just not picking a lane and sticking to it but riding the line to everyone's annoyance
Helldivers are the opposite of an elite force bud. They're normal people brainwashed into thinking they're special. Its why I never understood people saying this game is a "power fantasy". Its the opposite of that.
3:25 This is because the reticle shows where the shot will hit in the world. It doesn't show the direction the bullet goes. In first person games where the shot origin is inside the camera, this is the same thing, but not in a 3rd person game. Some 3rd person games don't do this, but they might use autoconvergence (bullets come out of your barrel at an angle) to make shots hit where the reticle is. A 3rd person game might also not preview where the shot will hit in the world, and also not use autoconvergence. In that case you need to aim to the side of things to hit them. They could make a setting so players can opt in to that behavior.
1:22 Exactly. I avoid combat as much as I can vs both factions. Prioritize the bugs and bots that can call breach/drop the best I can. Vs Bugs at least in any planet with light armor and popping stims, we can run away across the map if necessary to loose aggro and despawn an entire bug breach. Vs Bots is tricky because they have super mega long range and precision with blaster and rockets, specially when we are in "open" planets that have almost no cover to hide from the rain of rockets and BS of the bots. After every patch, AH is making the Eravin play style (stealth) the most effective and viable way to play the game. Unfortunately we all (i bet the majority) players want to fight hordes and kill a lot of bugs/bots, not keep running and running and hiding and crawling....
Dude for real, it's like the game keeps getting harder but we don't get more powerful. Before every game I tell my teammates to focus on objectives and just run immediately dont engage anything. It's annoying
@@charmjfillas Stop defending them, i'm sick and tired of People like you and arrogant Devs destroying the Games i love Gaming is a legitimate Hobby, and it has been my Hobby for 23 Years now, and like any Hobby it's a Part of you, so get it in your Head that People like me have good Reason to be pissed... You can now proceed to call me pathetic, because i have a real Hobby that i'm passionate about, instead of being a Tourist who has no real Passions
They made their bed, it's only a matter of time before the game become F2P as a last resort, then it will get bought by some greedy company that will turn it into a mindless cash grab.
What gets me is you fight of 500 bugs or bots and get out by the skin of your teeth and then one devastator or hunter stunlocks you and takes away your last reinforcement
Rocket devastators have 2 rocket racks with 6 tubes each. They should shoot volleys of 3 rockets at a time selectively before they run out NOT INFINITE VOLLEYS OF 10
I'm with you when you say you should be able to fight them if you're smart and not just run/disengage. Personally I've always wanted on all difficulties it to be possible to completely eliminate the enemy and stop them spawning *at all* if you fight smart. On the higher difficulties that absolutely *should* mean you have to play really smart and pick objectives carefully at the beginning and it should follow the basic phases of destroying their support, destroying their reinforcement mechanisms and then mopping up as the 'reward' at the end. I don't mind them calling in tons and tons of reinforcements for difficulty so long as it's possible to deal with them and possible to prevent more spawns once you've met whatever requirements they set.
6:30 So what I think happens here. (I've run into this too) You broke the hellbomb yourself. It is just that shots do both direct and explosive damage. And if the direct damage kills the hellbomb it doesn't set it off. I haven't tried shooting the floor next to a hellbomb with an explosive but that might work.
Ragdolls are fun the problem being ragdolled and not being able to stand up and in the time you can stand up you can get killed my proposal? buff the sturdy talent to get you a quicker get up animation and make the missile droids explode when you fire at their rockets like with the missile walkers
AH is the supreme example of a bad DM in what is otherwise a great game. "Yes, I know I let you do that for 4 months with your character..but I'm changing that now." Real bad dissociation between them and the players as well as what higher level play in the game is like. I guarantee if you let a few people in the community change some numbers on primary weapons they would have the entire game better balanced in 2 hours.
Yeah idk how the Hellbomb thing is supposed to work. I've armed so many Hellbombs at this point and they all keep getting broken. Very confused if its working or not, or if im bad at reading.
@@Veslelia_cw My confusion is that in the most recent patch notes, it clearly states that if the Hellbomb is armed and the timer is active it will explode instead of being broken. That clearly is not happening currently.
@@OhDoughheavy armor with explosive resistance has let me survive some genuinely insane things in the past, especially if you have stun booster plus ammo backpack, your practically immortal. ( I end games with like 45 stims used)
The biggest annoying is that it wasn’t game'a design. It is half of the community that still tried to defend developers' trash garbage choice of nerfing the weapons and making enemies annoyed to the point that it is no longer "fun" and telling us to "get good" No matter how many good points you had about Helldiver 2's downfall, they won't listen and laugh at your "skill issue." SMH...
I like to infill at the extract point. Usually it's clear of enemies so you'll have time to drop your support items, and I like to drop a resupply so one is waiting for me when I return (typically, there are no grenades at extract points). I'll scan the map, assault what is immediately surrounding the extract point, then sweep the map clearing objectives and strongholds.
Also, I don't ignore enemies that are swarming me. Either I engage them and thin their numbers, or "tactically retreat" until I can replenish and reapproach.
The ragdoll is absolutely fucking busted. I was being chased by a hulk and 2 scout striders, the striders knocked me on my ass about 1m back with 1 rocket, and the second one missed me, hit straight in front of me and hit me with an ultra instinct straight back into the infested outpost. Couldn't move for like a minute and I wasn't even playing solo. It was actually traumatizing.
I think at this point, the need to be able to rapidly jettison away from danger has made the jump pack more underappreciated than ever. Say you're pinned behind a tiny-ass rock with 5 devastators, 8 grunts, a hulk, 2 berserkers coming at you, and a factory strider in the distance. The jump pack lets you rapidly fly between cover points where you would've otherwise been stunlocked to death. I couldn't imagine just running from place to place anymore completely exposed. Further, if you use the light medic armor (though it's aggressively ugly), you can stim between flights and it has the highest rating of any light armor (though this doesn't reflect in the in-game menus). Autocannon alone simply cannot get you from point A to point B without getting stunlocked to death (*and* precludes you from carrying any kind of support backpack).
They'll come day and they'll come night They'll have our weapons in their sights But if they don't have Fun their eyes are blind They can scream and they can shout But they will never nerf us out Keep your "uninstall button" by your side
lmao, I've quit this game already, after 800 hours and level 150, I'm done with this game, I'm back to World of Tanks Can't stand the balance philosophy.
honestly they need to either decrease the length of the stim animation or add a ship module that just gives us the ability to stim instantly when we press the key, it's so frustrating to be spamming the stim button but it never actually working because of being ragdolled
I did not realize how much BS my usual squad pulls in until I watched this. Holy crap, they must just shoot in random directions to get every robot on us hahaha
I think Arrowhead hates UA-camrs playing hardest difficulty and saying "Easy". However I find playing with randoms is even worse and sadly all 4 HD2 discords I played on are empty.
I can handle difficulty 10 with the Terminids since it's a faction whose gameplay is based on swarms, but with the Automatons, it's just too much. Their gameplay is supposed to force you to be more tactical, but at this difficulty level, it's useless if you're constantly bombarded by huge hordes firing rockets in every direction, making it impossible to move. There should be more high-level enemies appearing, not a constant barrage of rockets at all times. I can rarely finish a campaign at that difficulty, and most of the time, you simply can't clear the map or extract because so many enemies block the objective that 40 minutes isn't enough. Even before the update, I always thought that to enjoy this faction, it's better to play on difficulty 7 or 8, and with this update and the new enemies, I couldn't be more right.
they did a poll in the discord 27% that like the update 33% that don't like it and 40% that just don't care (remember they kick/ban anyone that don't agree with the mods, and no not just being toxic stop this lie now) and yet some how muppets convened themselves 27% it a bigger number than 33%. The mental gymnastic people are doing have standers dropped this low.
The worst part is, I've lived to see people defend ragdolling with "but it's funny" unironically, when I said it needed to be addressed as soon as I could. It's funny, maybe up to the 5th time in the first 2 hours. After that point, it's a complete removal of player agency and stuff like this is why I even wanna see buffs to stims (As in, buff the time it takes to kick from when your diver pulls the stim out to when the stim touches their neck and the moment the sound queue starts. And if somehow that's not enough, I don't care how goofy it sounds, allow a diver to be uninterruptible once they begin a stim.) Even then, I believe we need stuff like this because there's just far too much thrown at a diver when they lack control to fight it.
Them preventing you from climbing on those mountains is just goofy "We don't want them blowing everyone away and the fabricators from outside the base!" Ok- but if I throw an eagle airstrike in there . . . "Yeah that's using your stratagems, that's fine" But it's faster AND easier AND less risky than making myself vulnerable on a mountain "Yeah but then you'll shoot things!!!! STOP SHOOTING THINGS, USE YOUR STRATAGEMS!" WE DID
I don't mind them making helldivers 2 feel more like helldivers 1 but at least give us the tools we had in hd1 like the distractor beacon and UAV drone. Bonus points if they can make the Armor look like hd1.
hd1 had like 1/4 of the heavy spawn rates if that at all. the worst I have seen on diff 9 in HD1 was 3 chargers at once. in HD2 I have sen up to 5 spawn from the same bugbreach and patrols with 3+ normal and 1-2 special all converging on your location at once. 13+ chargers and 1-3 titans is not an uncommon sight in 9+.
I love how the expendable anti tank can pass through a scavenger or between a bots legs....wtf and it doesn't actually explode, if you shoot a group of ticks hugging each other, it'll only kill one of them.
How are you guys dealing with the new rocket striders (fortified scout striders with rockets)? Apart from using lasercannon and railgun, which I don't want to take at high difficulty anyways, I've been struggling to kill them with anything else. I know how to deal with them (crotch, legs, side rockets), but I just feel that I can't clean them fast enough when they come from the front, and that's the biggest challenge I've been having with this update. I generally fight them with the autocannon, trying to hit the legs or the crotch, but as it shows in the video, autocannon's shitty autoaim (PC) aims between the legs or the frontplate, so I find myself missing too many shots, and you can't afford that in helldive... It's super frustrating. Also, exploding the rockets is nice, but I rarely have the side angle (and shooting them from the front is kinda bugged), and manytimes from a distance you can't tell if it has the rocket or just the used guide... Help.
When this game came out I said it had a shelf life of about 3 months. Primarily because the balance philosophy is counter intuitive, the game is about as complex as a kiddy pool and it has to remain that way to sell more warbonds. The game resist any features that would allow it to safely introduce different playstyles without breaking the difficulty by insisting that the game is essentially 1v200 call of duty lobby in space.
"It's diff 10, it's meant to be hard!"
It's only really hard because you are not in control of your character 85% of the time. Make Diff 11 just disable your keyboard when a bot sees you for the REAL challenge.
Pretty much, most my deaths were out of my control throughout many attempts. Getting ragdolled from a rocket that didn't even hit me at the start of the vid sums up the experience
@@OhDoughI feel it’s also important to know that since this is a team game, they balanced not around one player, and I’m not talking about how many enemies spawn, although that’s an obvious factor, the main reason for so many ragdolls is that since your one player, ALL enemies focus on you, as opposed to 4 people, so you get hit with everything they’ve got, the amount of ragdoll deaths with a full group are far less in my experience
@Rocket_Devastator if it takes this long for a reason to add or not to change something then it is not a PVE change or add because you really need to make sure ONE side to be happy and right now the Ai gets more buff while the side that make the game alive gets more weaker and almost every new weapon and others like armor 80% off the times are useless. I'm sorry, but you are defending people who use *realistic* changes only to make things harder for a PVE GAME
Same, just returned to the game after like a month, just to land in my first mission next to an Impaler that proceeded to play volleyball with my body for 5 minutes straight. Stims kept my body alive, but my spirit didn't survive.
@@Rocket_Devastator if they don't want people to play SP, make it impossible to do so. Since they support it, and indeed have specially lowered spawns, it needs to work well.
I love how, during Snow and Sand storms, they can perfectly see and aim at you from 200m away if you agro them, but you can't see anything past 10m.
Are you sure? Usually during storms the bot AI is messed up and the immediately lose agro after locking on.
@@user-tt6oe2th6b No, they barely miss or hit you 60% of the time or more during these heavy fog storms and what not, the visual clutter does not effect NPCs but it does against the player, "realism" I'm sure AH devs would say.
@@user-tt6oe2th6bthe F they do!
It's significantly harder for enemies to spot you when they're not agro tho. It's still stupid that rocket devs can see you as if the storm wasn't there while in combat
@@hawk9mm In my experience, the storms make it way easier to fight bots because they barely fight back during storms. Their accuracy stays the same, but they lose agro very easily.
Staggered Diver: “was the sun always that close?”
Staggered R Devastator: “ouchies, let us resume”
By design, this has become Autocannon: The Game.
it's kinda crazy how it's the one tool that can basically do everything but never be nerfed
perks of being the boss fav ig
@@RogerNbr "The autocannon is perfectly balanced, so we're not going to touch it."
Wonderful. You're going to bring everything up to its level then, right, since its the gold standard?
"Oh? Oh, you think you're cute? Good. We're nerfing warbonds before they even come out because you're so goddamned stupid. Wah wah make the other guns good! Fuck you. Enjoy your zippo lighter...I mean flamethrower lolz."
Autocannon is what the Flamethrower and Incendiary Breaker used to be but for the Bot Front.
NERF!
its so mindblowing to me they havent nerfed autocannon but just nerfed the inc breaker bc a lot of people used it. I promise second on the list was autocannon. They literally just say whatever😭
I remember when it was just a mid alternative but that was still pretty nice enough that we could play it in all difficulties, now I feel dumb
I’ve been one hit killed by the striders with their new rockets while wearing heavy armor with the 50% reduction to explosives passive. Keep in mind that the rockets miss me by a few meters, it’s not even a direct hit.
The problems with striders is they don’t telegraph when they launch their missiles and the missiles itself deal way too much damage. Ironically, the AT-AT cannons deal less damage than a striders rocket. The strider is one of the most dangerous enemies now.
You mean Walkers?
@@temperstar8411they’re called scout striders, factory striders are the big ones ofc
that's what I'm saying! The new Strider missile attack is poorly telegraphed, one second he's standing the next he's already launched a missile at you it is wild.
They can straight up dome you at random from 70 meters away, never mind the rockets.
And, not for nothing, but they are "immune to explosives" on like half their body because that's how explosives and concussion works I guess lol. I wish they gave them more fire power but no extra armor. Fighting a hundred glass cannons is fun. Fighting something that can one me & can take a full mag to the hip joint and still not die, & it's 100 Brothers who can also one shot me is fun for a little bit, but it just feels like another change that promotes avoidance. I don't mind getting one shotted, but if they can take 10 shots and bring tons of back up, it's a losing gamble more often than not. Is that the move? To make us fight less and run more?
AH: Play our tactical horde shooter!
Me: Ok, Im going to be tactical and take the high ground with the AMR
AH: 🚫
Never forgive them for making the tops of rocks inaccessible
AH needs to make taking the high ground an actual advantage
19:16 pretty much sums up the experience of this game for me so well! Doughs reaction eradicated me. 🤪🤪🤦🤦
git gud bk
Just wait for the ladder stratagem
My man Dough torturing himself for our entertainment, that's a true democracy protector
If he is torturing himself he should just gEt bEtTEr lol (brainless nerd emoji)
New bugs I've found:
The game is now forcing you to go ads for some reason.
Other divers show as failed to extract even though they didn't fail.
Other divers showing as level 0 consistently on extract.
Reinforcement budget going to 0 as soon as someone gets on the pelican.
Someone leaving the game just show as died for a few minutes.
The spaghetti code is real.
People rarely bring up the fact that the game engine is a huge factor in why this game constantly breaks every single update.
@@monsterzeroone It's like building a castle on quicksand. It was doomed from the start.
I thought that was something in the settings I changed! Good to know I’m not crazy and this is a bug
the first bug is especially annoying, suddenly I'll just snap into ADS when I'm switching my guns while aiming and it's really off-putting -_-
@@monsterzeroonegood to know. Still not an excuse tho... If it's a shit engine, and the devs knew that, then they shouldn't have used it in the first place. The constant bugs are unacceptable at this point
Knockdowns, one shots and just running away has been my experience in my return to this update. I'm not having fun.
I love all the people in the comments trying to be "helpful" or say OhDough is wrong for playing solo... My brother in Crest Toothpaste he fucking soloed super helldive with 20 min to spare after completing all main objectives... The game is not hard, even solo, it is just annoying because the player is not given decent tools to combat the challenge presented.
Every time players figure out a decent way to deal with the latest bullshit, AH nerfs it and ramps up the annoyance factor without adding any real challenge. I completed a full helldive operation (all three missions) using nothing but the incendiary breaker and supply backpack in medic armor with the stim buff. Literally only shot my gun enough to keep hunters off me while just running past everything else and stimming through all the hits I took. There is literally no point in stopping to fight because you cannot bring enough dakka to deal with the hordes after the last major patch buffing spawns into the stratosphere. And I mean this as a group... I play with a 4 man team... they all just run around causing chaos and trying to stay alive and I complete objectives. Time was, we could actually roll around as a squad and clear a path, but those days are long gone.
I'm sure some AH apologist will think to respond with some way that we are playing the game wrong or some excuse for why things should be as shitty as they are. Do yourself, and everyone else, a favor and remain seemingly smart by remaining silent rather than removing any doubt by speaking.
this is a under rated comment and should be pinned.
And you see, that's a major problem for me, I to could also probably solo super helldive, HOWEVER, the way I personally like to play horde shooters is oh I don't know; KILLING THINGS! If the only tangible way to beat the higher levels is to simply "run away like a bitch" then the devs can go fuck themselves. I bought this game to kill godless aliens and bots, not run away like a pussy.
You voiced the frustrations pretty clearly alright, can't say it better myself. You have to play the most efficient way or else you can't win, anything else and it's just unbearable
An update to this rant. Ran super helldives with my buds yesterday. Since we knew we were going into utter bullshit we decided to try meme builds and even attempted using the buddy back pack system. I ran a quesodilla canon and a crowd clear primary while taking teammate 1's AC back pack to load him. TM1 took the AC and the guard dog rover so he had a little extra add clear while mowing down medium armored enemies. TM2 brought a supply back pack to keep us stocked.
We could not move from our drop location until we STOPPED trying to play as a team. We wracked up tons of kills and only heavies could get near us, but there was such a continuous wave of enemies that we just didn't have the fire power to punch through without scattering like rats.
I'll say it louder for those in the back. AN AUTOCANNON WITH NEAR CONTINUOUS FIRE could not PUNCH THROUGH ENOUGH BUGS FOR US TO MOVE ANYWHERE!?!
In the course of fighting off a single bug breach we went though nearly ALL of our ammo. Including the resupplies from the supply backpack...
Yet, even after all of this fucking around and bringing VERY suboptimal builds once we started soloing as a group we still managed to complete all the objectives and one helldiver even managed to evac. >.>
PS: We are only middle of the road players in terms of skill and we fuck around too much with blanket, team killing calldowns to even hold our game play to that level. I again state, AH only makes the game more annoying with their changes... not harder.
Fully agree. I like playing stealthy/scout builds, just running around doing optional and main objectives while having the smallest amount of time with enemy aggro to do my thing. But just because I enjoy doing that doesn't mean that it's fun for everyone else whose fantasy is mowing down waves and waves of enemies, big and small. Consistently when playing in higher difficulties it seems to me it becomes less worthwhile to engage the enemies and better to just run because you'll either be quickly outnumbered or ragdolled and subsequently killed because you couldn't fight back in any way to save yourself. This is a horder shooter, not temple run
I kinda hate the fact that just running around and not fighting breaches is the best way to go, like all the cinematic stuff of fighting the swarm or an army of bugs is lost cause fleeing and returning once they respawn is just outright the best move. Even with randoms everyone end up running separatedly and not fighting anything.
mortal what are you doing?
it something we humans like to call running away!
It makes the trailers like false advertising since you basically cant do that if you want to win the mission
@@nagatodan you can and it is fairly easy (at least on pc) but there's no point in doing so. Hoped difficulty 10 would bring harder breaches and something to force the team into sticking together but it simply did not.
Bots already have too many ranged attackers with knockdown effects and yet Arrowhead in their infinite wisdom decides to add more enemies.
Fighting bots is like being in a shed with someone throwing a bees nest inside and then whacking you around with a bat.
I mean, look at this comment thread. This is true but people are STILL saying the game is too easy. And saying it loudly which gives the impression that a lot of people want them to add more difficulty.
@@zelbinian Difficulty doesn't have to be about adding more annoying knock down / knock back effects.
Bug Breaches could include multiple mini breaches around the main breach that spawns little enemies.
Dropships could have jet pack bots blast off before the dropship deploys the rest.
You can add more RNG events like Elite versions of enemies that home in on you and you get a warning about their presence. Like mini bosses (not the big bosses from HD1).
Heck you could literally add neutral enemies from the planets to attack Helldivers or bots / bugs if you wanted to.
You're forgetting to frequently look behind yourself as you're running away, because the devs decided to make the enemy AI rubber band after you while they're not being looked at.
First time I'm hearing of this. Can it be confirmed?
Truthfully, there is no empirical evidence proving it is EXACTLY this. It's the best explanation we have at the time. Sadly this game is hard to test with how inconsistent it is.
If you're curious, there's plenty of anecdotal evidence that suggests SOMETHING is at play here. In my experience, I started noticing inconsistent enemy movement after the general enemy movement speed increase months ago. I would share the goog/redd post for convenience but yew tube would annihilate my comment.
Search,
"Enemies speed up when off screen and or to keep up with the player."
@Cosmis5 I doubt there is rubber banding. Enemies will increase their speed if they want to close the distance with you, and you can be looking at them. It's easy to notice with Striders, Hunters, troopers etc.
HD2 has become that game that I would like to play but refrain from and instead just consume videos about it.
@@theburningcloud1214 me lol
@@theburningcloud1214 in hopes theres a video saying Everythings Fixed Come Back!!
Honestly, it's still a ton of fun to play it.
Lol this is me
cant recommend it in its current state, but maybe itll get back to how fun it was before
The game is not a shooter is a Sci-fi basketball simulator. Where you get to experience what it feels being the ball.
Super Helldive is just their official term for "Super Ballance Testing Sandbox" for beta-testers with a high frustration tolerance...pardon.. i meant "most skilled and experienced players" of course.
24:10 "the amount of times folks have told me I'm bad at this ga-"
Damn near spat out my coffee man 😂 love your commentary
AH is the type of studio to see this video and nerf the ability to dive and open map because you’re using them
We at ArrowHead are hearing the players and so we are removing the hud for "realism"
@@black_ghost1215 more like "We saw that the usage rates of the dive mechanic and the map were very high, so we've tuned them down so you can only dive at full stamina and you have to crouch and stay still in order to use the map. These mechanics were simply overpowered as demonstrated by our spreadsheets across the player population. "
Didn't age well
@@__-tp4tm100% satire seeing as they’d never actually do this lol
Your commentary and humor make this game seem more enjoyable than it actually is.
Only the boring get bored
There is a difference between something being boring and just not fun. Getting tossed around by rockets and cannons all of the time isn't boring (at least for me), but that doesn't make it fun.
The game is not boring its still fun, but the frustration factor is more than it should be
I feel like Arrowhead is just trying way too hard to be From Software. People see FromSoft getting respect for making high-difficulty, high-skill-curve games and they think “if we make games that are difficult, people will think we’re a big boy studio too!”
I just want to play a game that is fun; games that are too hard to play aren’t fun, they’re just a grind
nope they are just trying to get to the level of insanity that hd1 offered, sadly this game attracted a whole new crowd who think they should breeze trough every non heavy armored enemy with a primary because fun!
@@aldintv7687 lol, if primaries need half their mag to kill one basic enemy, the primaries are too weak. They don’t kill basic enemies, they don’t kill heavies, what are primaries even for? Your stratagems should deal with heavies, your primary weapon should deal with the smaller swarms.
@@aldintv7687 Ikr? These new pl3bs coming in here thinking that you can make the game difficult by some other "fun" way other than endlessly stunlocking them, having enemies ragdol them out of 1 meter thick solid cover by shooting a rocket on the opposite side of said cover. One bullet headshot only gets you down to 20hp, and the basic chaff only shoots in 3 bullet bursts. Just stick your head in cover and be skillful enough to invoke good luck in the form of that random rocket wielding enemy that is around every corner not to blast you out of it, even if he misses. If you get rocket combo'd across the map by rocket guys continuously ragdolling you over and over before you even get the chance to stand up from the initial ragdol is really just a skill issue. Only 50% of enemies have rockets, and only 100% of them stunlock you if they even hit the same continent you are on. Also imagine thinking your primary should be able to dispatch tier 1 enemies like ROFL!!!
@@aldintv7687But hd1 actually had really good guns that killed enemies? And the first game also had anti tank guns that were actually anti tank. At this point arrowhead should just copy paste hd1 weapons with the upgrade system instead of 2 mediocre guns and a shitty perk coming every warbond.
@@321Isotope The thing is, in HD1 it was just like that, take the hd1 brood commander for example you could very well magdump him and you probably wouldn't even pop his head with something like a ARL-justice, this is so non at support weapons shinned, mg, flamer etc.
tbh the moment primaries can take all medium enemies easily all non high pen support weapons go to shit, and that's just how the game seems to be designed, primaries in helldivers 1 and 2 are JUST guns just spawn in with to partially cover a niche that a support weapon does better.
Fuck this, I'm going back to Deep Rock Galactic to hang out with my dwarf brothers.
Rock & Stone brother
Lol go haz 5 and enable the difficulty modifier to all high is the same thing. Nobody needs to be soloing a difficulty made for team play
already done, I can say even haz7 feels more balanced than that shit
@@Mobius-GamingWell the game still changes the stats on the difficulty to suit how many players are in the game
@@Mobius-Gamingbro would not last on haz 2
"Avoid combat and stealth the objectives, avoiding reinforcements"
Uhhh... This IS a *WAVE SHOOTER* right?
I didn't intend to purchase a shitty horror game where you're so outmatched the whole time because you're supposed to be hiding and running away
No, this is not a wave shooter.
Never was.
I don't like the balance of the game as things need buffs but I hate how people like you muddy the waters with really dumb statements like that.
Also objectives spawn patrols around you
@@kato093 It's a team based extraction shooter where sometimes the best method for accomplishing objectives is for the team to break away in 4 different directions so that the whole team isn't bogged down in a positive feedback loop of patrols spawning patrols for 15 minutes when each round has a finite time limit. It's design sometimes encourages the opposite of it's supposed creators intent and they don't seem to understand that. Hence the near constant change to weapons and stratagems to enforce some theoretical game that the community doesn't actually play.
Stealth has *always* been apart of thr game, since scout armor exists. Though it is annoying that its the easiest way to play the game now.
@@dethaw6926 Well except the moment you shoot something the entire base knows where you are exactly
The worst part is watching the community split we have discord/HD2 reddit sucking AH off as if they've improved the game tenfold and then we have youtube/hd reddit which are just SHREDDING the game balance usually with videos to accompany it. To me it makes no sense seeing all this "git gud" nonsense if the top 10% of gamers(Dough is probably in here) desperately struggle in solo without abusing weird game mechanics like luring breaches. Also the new flamethrower visual offends me who approved this?!
the worst part to me is people lacked the common sense to see the way hd2 was trending from the very first patch.
ofc in terms of flame balancing, the one and only: Alexus
Bro, doesn't make sense playing this game solo, you can go solo in a team. It is Dough problem ifnhe wants to go with no team at all, I can perfectly play as lonewolf with a team. From like 15 games of lvl 10 diff, I have won like 12 I think, you all complainingmfor nothing.
@@OhDough since the rail gun nerf
@@scotthall7307 get gud
Run ended by the classic ragdoll into thornbush/sharpwires combo, if only they could reduce the explosion radius for automaton rockets to reduce ragdolls
I couldn't believe it unless I had not seen it. For a game to go from the top to the bottom in less than a month is insane. we are talking this game was a mine made of solid gold and the developers and Sony decided to seal the mine up and go looking for another gold mine that is less profitable. It's pathetic in terms of being competent or intelligent with decisions.
Could have sworn in some patch somewhere they said once the Hellbomb is armed it'll go off if shot.
It definitely happened to me. A turret shot the hell bomb and wiped my whole team.
@@lukasart3951was it a called in one or one you'd find laying around the map?
In the latest patch it says that yes
Once again devs breaking stuff 😂
@@therealjomeit’s the one you found on the field, with enough damage it’d explode immediately after shot
Its a huge issue in a HORDE SHOOTER, to make engaging the horde something to be avoided. You should want to engage the horde and have the tools to do it, as long as you are playing decently well and using some tactics. The mission is secondary to blasting bots and bugs. Keep the goal, and what is fun for players, in fucking FOCUS Arrowhead!
it should be a choose what fits you playstyle, giving us the tools to handle ourselves with challenging enemies not just spam and unfair mechanics. Somehow it wrong to wanna be a super trooper raining bullets onto the hoard, it somehow wrong to wanna stealth your way behind enemy lines, nope we get the oh crap that to many we gotta run.
Game got terminal cancer, the last update and space marine 2s release will be the final nail in the coffin.
Deep Rock Galactic, l4d2, and killing floor 2 are my go too PvE games now.
RiP Helldivers, killed via Devs incompetence.
KF2 with 100 players?
@@pavolp.6527Steam Charts show Killing Floor 2 maintains a pretty steady 12k concurrent players 🤷♂️
@pavolp.6527 That will be Helldivers 2 player count when space marine comes out, have fun with your new flamethrower....
Sad you didn't mention EDF6 but if you haven't played any of the games give them a go.
It was THE cure for this cancer...
Dude why tf is everyone overreacting 💀
6:19 My man got baited destroying his own bomb. For context, patchnotes says you can detonate hellbomb by shooting if it's armed, but apparently this new feature doesn't work. Now I have to deal with my face being red cause I've never facepalmed so hard .
One of the few youtubers that I like the video before even watching it, love you Do
Dough: completes lvl 10 solo Helldive....also Dough: walks directly into clearly visible contact mine. One of us, one of us! 😉
I'm calling it now they're going to add in a patch that helldivers will drop their support weapon if they ragdoll while carrying it in hand
Praying AH does not see this com RN.
AH can we have this? This is very realistic.
If I recall correctly, ballistic shield already gets dropped during some ragdolls. And from picking up artillery shells, SSSD drives.
climbing used to be way better...we used to be able to climb that 29:23 . Also the fact that you can't go through there 19:16 makes no sense, you can do way better AH, i know you can.
They’re trying their best to tell you that no, they can’t.
@@ExtraTrstlthey can (as proven by being able to usually climb easier). U mean “no, they won’t”
I’m really want to nominate Arrowhead for “The Dumbest game studio of 2024” award
"The most stubborn pushers of their game vision 2024"
"F the players, we know better what's good for them 2024"
Yeah, so it ADS when you first spawn and try to aim. I thought my mouse was broken but no, just another bug.
I love how absurd 10 is but the one big issue I have is the lack of standard units. 10 just feels like they replaced every warrior with alphas which makes a lot of weapons utterly useless. Only weapons that are designed for medium units seem to excel. I was hoping the difficulty was gonna be hundreds of warriors, and hunters, supplemented with a few more medium and heavy units. But that's really not the case. I see more commanders than warriors or hoppers on 10.
Helldivers 2: where you need to figure out what your Support weapon will be as your Primary and your Primary as your Support.
The rag doll is the worst part of the game, it takes away any tactical approach besides using rocks or the terrain as cover 🤷🏽♂️
Ah, the guy who doesn’t understand the game he’s playing. 😢
Just allowing us to stay down after being ragdolled would be huge
High ground tends to become a launching point for me 😂
@@willlliorca7024getting stun locked and ragdolled to death isn't fun, nor does it make the game "difficult" It's just frustrating and unfair.
@@FEWGEE1 it’s been part of the game since launch. Quit whining and soldier up. Freedom doesn’t care if you ragdoll. Complete the mission as limp as your erectionless dick(because your sex privileges have been revoked once again)
For Super Earth! 🌏
Freedom’s Flame. ❌
Freedom’s Ragdoll. ✅
The difference between solo and in a squad of 4 is unbelievable
This update should've been called Escalation of Ragdolls.
i'd LOVE to have the dark-matter backpack again, that thing was fun AF, it made the inadequacies of the mainline jump-pack all too apparent.
Also, the "hellpods can't pass these invisible walls surrounding objectives so 95% of the time your landing is on-rails" while enemies can crawl out of the ground underneath the extraction shuttle or on that removed base-defence/survivor-extractor mission is a classic AH example of "rules for thee, but not for your enemies, they get to do EVERYTHING they want" BS.
I was so close to finishing a solo Helldive to destroy orbital cannons, and I shit you not a flame hulk just SCP-106ed through the cannon and sliced me the fuck up. It's really busted.
You hit the nail on the head. I want to fight a ton of enemies but not feel like I’m constantly getting overwhelmed. I don’t want to have to skip drops and breaches. I love shooting down a drop ship!
Last patch notes: "Hellbomb will explode even if destroyed when armed"
With explosive damage
You can't hit it directly with the autocannon because it does impact damage first, then explosive.
The Autocannon and AMR are the only viable support weapons left in the game. Even then, the AC is pretty exclusive to the bot front, while also requiring a backpack slot and the AMR is exclusively for the bot front.
On the bug front, there isn't a single support weapon that can handle the new speed, armor, and aggression of the enemies and justify it's place in a load out over an Eagle or Orbital.
Personally, I have found much more success running breaker incendiary with supply pack, stuns, and 3 strats because mobility is key and airial suppression of bug breaches is the only way to prevent being overwhelmed (and even then you need to be on point).
Currently, I am running the orbital gatling, OPS, and cluster bombs and I'm willing to bet this load out will become the new meta (which means the supply pack will be nerfed next).
It's become painfully clear that AH has no idea what they are doing with weapon balance and it has become indefensible. In their attempt to deversify the play styles of divers (in a PVE game which is insane to begin with) they went the nerf route without understanding why the upper tier players in the community were using certain weapons (hint: they were the ONLY viable ones).
Instead of taking a long hard look at why most weapons are not viable on levels 9 and 10 (where most players are playing) they simply look at data metrics, nerf, and test things on level 6 (rofl).
You can really tell how disconnected they are when you watch the dev team attempt to play their own game - so painful. They are spreadsheet balancing, everyone knows it, and it will kill their game.
Don't even get me started with how they thought 2 super samples and 4 rare samples was a "huge reward" for taking out a mega nest... I'm a day one, level 150 helldiver who has been here through every update and it has gotten to the point where I don't expect a single thing from the warbonds and actively dread their new updates. Sad
not at all exclusive to the bot front. It kills everything but BT just fine on bugs (even if not using the charger leg glitch)
@@roar104 The problem with the auto cannon on the bug front is it is too ammo starved. It isn't viable on level 10 unless you are being carried by teammates. Supply pack is significantly better than Autocannon for bugs. Supply+Breaker Incendiary is the new Mets. Trust
@@bchernyha big 🖨
@@bchernyha just don't shoot the trash with the AC lmao. Either that or have your friend resupply you once or twice if you spam it at everything. Or maybe just be the guy sucking up all the ammo boxes around the ground. If the AC is ammo starved there's not a single support weapon that isn't in the game.
@bchernyha cookout + autocannon is the new bug meta. Full cleared level 10 yesterday
idk why youre playing, i mean content but your suffering isnt worth it lol. AH doesnt care, and is gonna do what they want. literally doesnt matter what we say theyre gonna do what they want, and have proven that time and time again. The nade pistol “buff” is a joke and we shouldnt be like “at least we got this” thats such a bad way to look at it. Game has issues purely because the devs go out of their way to make the game straight up unfun. They know what theyre doing, its been months. they dont deserve anymore excuses. GG hd2, even if they fix it all they did this for no reason other then they wanted, knowing we would hate it. Im good.
I've experience far worse for the sake of content. I do enjoy the challenge I just wish it wasn't so arbitrary. I like to have these video's as proof that I know what I'm talking about even if they don't reach the people that need convincing. it took me like an hour to beat this mission, I've spent far longer trying to beat other missions
@@OhDough yea makes sense, thanks for responding. i just wish the devs werent so disconnected, claiming to be “super active in the community”. Then they claim they dont know what to add/didnt know we wouldnt like it bc of the community. If youre involved, you should know right? makes no sense.
@paparoach3071 Yes and no. The community is somewhat fragmented, with some people claiming even now that the game is boring because it is too easy please make harder and others complaining that it is impossible to win due to nerfs and all the weapons need a massive damage boost, like buff everything its all not good enough. So, as a developer, who do you listen to? Some people love stealth others want to shoot their way to victory. Which way do you balance? I think arrowhead is shooting themselves in the foot by trying to do both sides at once.
@@Wwillswords thats what im saying. pick a side. Clearly one out weighs the other. NFW do the “skill issue” people out weigh the amount of complaints thats been happening for MONTHS. I mean they keep thinking its PvP so maybe they are the skill issue people. I understand what youre saying and i do agree to an extent but it should be obvious that the “its too easy” people are just blowing smoke up their ass. If its that easy for 35% of the playerbase then good for them, dont ruin it for everyone else. Go play another game, because i promise you its not “too easy” or a “skill issue”. Internet culture is so toxic its literally ruining the game. This is borderline toxic, with the devs and community. CEO promised no more nerfs, first thing he did was nerf. Its all just way too much at this point and its their fault. They let it get to this point. As soon as the Arc thrower was nerfed people went insane, we literally fought Sony and WON. It should be clear we want whats best, not another “harder” gamemode because its “too easy”. I feel disrespected as a player and a buyer of this game. They literally could care less.
@paparoach3071 i didn't get that sense from what you wrote, so my bad. Instead, I got the sense that you thought the devs were out of touch rather than just not picking a lane and sticking to it but riding the line to everyone's annoyance
20:20 what would be the excuse that the Helldivers as an elite force don't know how to swim? this one is the most ridicoulous for me
That’s the irony, divers aren’t trained killers, remember your first training?
Heavy gear/ equipment is standard issue, so swimming training is a waste of time/ resources maybe...
Elite force? With 10 minutes of training??
m.ua-cam.com/video/24VOo7-ctKU/v-deo.html
Helldivers are the opposite of an elite force bud. They're normal people brainwashed into thinking they're special. Its why I never understood people saying this game is a "power fantasy". Its the opposite of that.
28:14 his own dead body goes flying past him.
That's funny, good catch.
In the lore though, every time you die, you "come back" as a different Helldiver.
Bad omen
your awesome bro i watch every HD2 vid u put up and its actually really entertaining. keep it up bro
3:25 This is because the reticle shows where the shot will hit in the world. It doesn't show the direction the bullet goes. In first person games where the shot origin is inside the camera, this is the same thing, but not in a 3rd person game. Some 3rd person games don't do this, but they might use autoconvergence (bullets come out of your barrel at an angle) to make shots hit where the reticle is. A 3rd person game might also not preview where the shot will hit in the world, and also not use autoconvergence. In that case you need to aim to the side of things to hit them. They could make a setting so players can opt in to that behavior.
1:22 Exactly. I avoid combat as much as I can vs both factions. Prioritize the bugs and bots that can call breach/drop the best I can. Vs Bugs at least in any planet with light armor and popping stims, we can run away across the map if necessary to loose aggro and despawn an entire bug breach. Vs Bots is tricky because they have super mega long range and precision with blaster and rockets, specially when we are in "open" planets that have almost no cover to hide from the rain of rockets and BS of the bots. After every patch, AH is making the Eravin play style (stealth) the most effective and viable way to play the game. Unfortunately we all (i bet the majority) players want to fight hordes and kill a lot of bugs/bots, not keep running and running and hiding and crawling....
Dude for real, it's like the game keeps getting harder but we don't get more powerful. Before every game I tell my teammates to focus on objectives and just run immediately dont engage anything. It's annoying
I'm glad they added more rockets to the rocket enemies so they can more rocket you into a unskipable cutscene called ragdoll
I support these helldiver UA-camrs but I also want Arrowhead to suffer and get zero support in any way after everything theyve done and not done
so dramatic😭🙏 there bad updates. You talking like they killed your fam😭🙏
@@charmjfillasYou talk like you have their schlong in your mouth.
@@charmjfillas Stop defending them, i'm sick and tired of People like you and arrogant Devs destroying the Games i love
Gaming is a legitimate Hobby, and it has been my Hobby for 23 Years now, and like any Hobby it's a Part of you, so get it in your Head that People like me have good Reason to be pissed... You can now proceed to call me pathetic, because i have a real Hobby that i'm passionate about, instead of being a Tourist who has no real Passions
@@charmjfillas
keep simping
you loser aint get anything anyway
They made their bed, it's only a matter of time before the game become F2P as a last resort, then it will get bought by some greedy company that will turn it into a mindless cash grab.
What gets me is you fight of 500 bugs or bots and get out by the skin of your teeth and then one devastator or hunter stunlocks you and takes away your last reinforcement
Everything above Hard - 5 difficulty is unfun for me. I want to kill shit, not run away from it.
Yep. I actually had a fun time on 6 and 7... you can guess what difficulty the team balances off of.
@@ElfireII 6, thats the primary difficulty they play on and even then they are not good at the game.
I kill shit all the time on 8. Idk why 5 is the cut off for you
I laugh more than I should have at your body flying at 28:14
Space Marine 2 is gonna be elite.
Rocket devastators have 2 rocket racks with 6 tubes each. They should shoot volleys of 3 rockets at a time selectively before they run out NOT INFINITE VOLLEYS OF 10
It's funny how its actually harder to play Super Helldive with teamates because the most optimal strategy is stealth still.
I'm with you when you say you should be able to fight them if you're smart and not just run/disengage. Personally I've always wanted on all difficulties it to be possible to completely eliminate the enemy and stop them spawning *at all* if you fight smart. On the higher difficulties that absolutely *should* mean you have to play really smart and pick objectives carefully at the beginning and it should follow the basic phases of destroying their support, destroying their reinforcement mechanisms and then mopping up as the 'reward' at the end. I don't mind them calling in tons and tons of reinforcements for difficulty so long as it's possible to deal with them and possible to prevent more spawns once you've met whatever requirements they set.
6:30 So what I think happens here. (I've run into this too) You broke the hellbomb yourself. It is just that shots do both direct and explosive damage. And if the direct damage kills the hellbomb it doesn't set it off. I haven't tried shooting the floor next to a hellbomb with an explosive but that might work.
Wait. Better sights= extra premium subscription.
Ragdolls are fun
the problem being ragdolled and not being able to stand up and in the time you can stand up you can get killed
my proposal? buff the sturdy talent to get you a quicker get up animation
and make the missile droids explode when you fire at their rockets like with the missile walkers
The rag dolls are fine it’s just that everything can make you ragdoll
Automatons are very accurate again after the patch. Bouncing Stratagems are back too. Chargers can climb better than us.
AH is the supreme example of a bad DM in what is otherwise a great game. "Yes, I know I let you do that for 4 months with your character..but I'm changing that now." Real bad dissociation between them and the players as well as what higher level play in the game is like. I guarantee if you let a few people in the community change some numbers on primary weapons they would have the entire game better balanced in 2 hours.
Solo superhelldiving sounds a task for the mentally unwell. And i love it
Yeah idk how the Hellbomb thing is supposed to work. I've armed so many Hellbombs at this point and they all keep getting broken. Very confused if its working or not, or if im bad at reading.
It can get broken from damage, which doesn't make sense in lore but it seems as a intended mechanics. Happens in bugs too if it takes too much damage.
It has to be explosive damage like grenade pistol or eruptor. We armed one and then eagle striked the area and it blew up right as the eagle hit
@@Veslelia_cw My confusion is that in the most recent patch notes, it clearly states that if the Hellbomb is armed and the timer is active it will explode instead of being broken.
That clearly is not happening currently.
@@neelj5975 well they don't test their patches so don't trust anything they say
@@neelj5975 probably bugged just like at lot of things they said should work but don't.
even when you're behind the cover, somehow it still ragdolls you, it's like the impact force of the rockets ignores the obstacle
Ragdoll is crazy, even running heavy armor feel like im in space with all thosr physics
Whoever told you you can shoot the "activating hellbomb" is a genius level masterbaiter
Light medic on bots is wild! I wouldn't dare to go below medium
I'm usually use heavy armor but wit the current state of ragdolls I don't see the point. 10% damage reduction won't cut it.
@@OhDoughheavy armor with explosive resistance has let me survive some genuinely insane things in the past, especially if you have stun booster plus ammo backpack, your practically immortal. ( I end games with like 45 stims used)
The biggest annoying is that it wasn’t game'a design. It is half of the community that still tried to defend developers' trash garbage choice of nerfing the weapons and making enemies annoyed to the point that it is no longer "fun" and telling us to "get good"
No matter how many good points you had about Helldiver 2's downfall, they won't listen and laugh at your "skill issue." SMH...
I like to infill at the extract point. Usually it's clear of enemies so you'll have time to drop your support items, and I like to drop a resupply so one is waiting for me when I return (typically, there are no grenades at extract points). I'll scan the map, assault what is immediately surrounding the extract point, then sweep the map clearing objectives and strongholds.
Also, I don't ignore enemies that are swarming me. Either I engage them and thin their numbers, or "tactically retreat" until I can replenish and reapproach.
The ragdoll is absolutely fucking busted. I was being chased by a hulk and 2 scout striders, the striders knocked me on my ass about 1m back with 1 rocket, and the second one missed me, hit straight in front of me and hit me with an ultra instinct straight back into the infested outpost. Couldn't move for like a minute and I wasn't even playing solo. It was actually traumatizing.
a game centered around combat, which discourages you to engage in combat is self-defeating.
I think at this point, the need to be able to rapidly jettison away from danger has made the jump pack more underappreciated than ever. Say you're pinned behind a tiny-ass rock with 5 devastators, 8 grunts, a hulk, 2 berserkers coming at you, and a factory strider in the distance. The jump pack lets you rapidly fly between cover points where you would've otherwise been stunlocked to death. I couldn't imagine just running from place to place anymore completely exposed. Further, if you use the light medic armor (though it's aggressively ugly), you can stim between flights and it has the highest rating of any light armor (though this doesn't reflect in the in-game menus). Autocannon alone simply cannot get you from point A to point B without getting stunlocked to death (*and* precludes you from carrying any kind of support backpack).
They'll come day and they'll come night
They'll have our weapons in their sights
But if they don't have Fun their eyes are blind
They can scream and they can shout
But they will never nerf us out
Keep your "uninstall button" by your side
My advice, Medium to Heavy armor (Fortified or Extra Padding) with any explosive primary and the railgun or auto cannon.
lmao, I've quit this game already, after 800 hours and level 150, I'm done with this game, I'm back to World of Tanks
Can't stand the balance philosophy.
honestly they need to either decrease the length of the stim animation or add a ship module that just gives us the ability to stim instantly when we press the key, it's so frustrating to be spamming the stim button but it never actually working because of being ragdolled
His own corpse flying by at 28:14 💀💀💀💀💀
I did not realize how much BS my usual squad pulls in until I watched this. Holy crap, they must just shoot in random directions to get every robot on us hahaha
I think Arrowhead hates UA-camrs playing hardest difficulty and saying "Easy".
However I find playing with randoms is even worse and sadly all 4 HD2 discords I played on are empty.
3:30
It was moving a lot because you were out of stamina. Low stamina affects your aim.
I can handle difficulty 10 with the Terminids since it's a faction whose gameplay is based on swarms, but with the Automatons, it's just too much. Their gameplay is supposed to force you to be more tactical, but at this difficulty level, it's useless if you're constantly bombarded by huge hordes firing rockets in every direction, making it impossible to move. There should be more high-level enemies appearing, not a constant barrage of rockets at all times. I can rarely finish a campaign at that difficulty, and most of the time, you simply can't clear the map or extract because so many enemies block the objective that 40 minutes isn't enough. Even before the update, I always thought that to enjoy this faction, it's better to play on difficulty 7 or 8, and with this update and the new enemies, I couldn't be more right.
One has to imagine this difficulty with the increased patrol spawn rate💀
Damn I haven’t played this game in at least 2-3 months. I’m glad to see hardly anything has changed in regards to nerfs and difficulty🤣🤣
Screw this,I am gonna resign and just gonna become an EDF.
they did a poll in the discord 27% that like the update 33% that don't like it and 40% that just don't care (remember they kick/ban anyone that don't agree with the mods, and no not just being toxic stop this lie now) and yet some how muppets convened themselves 27% it a bigger number than 33%. The mental gymnastic people are doing have standers dropped this low.
"vocal minority" yup, keep simping for a greedy corporation that has done nothing but nerf the player and make it less fun with every single update.
A horde shooter when you DON'T want to turn around and face the horde...
The worst part is, I've lived to see people defend ragdolling with "but it's funny" unironically, when I said it needed to be addressed as soon as I could. It's funny, maybe up to the 5th time in the first 2 hours. After that point, it's a complete removal of player agency and stuff like this is why I even wanna see buffs to stims
(As in, buff the time it takes to kick from when your diver pulls the stim out to when the stim touches their neck and the moment the sound queue starts. And if somehow that's not enough, I don't care how goofy it sounds, allow a diver to be uninterruptible once they begin a stim.)
Even then, I believe we need stuff like this because there's just far too much thrown at a diver when they lack control to fight it.
Them preventing you from climbing on those mountains is just goofy
"We don't want them blowing everyone away and the fabricators from outside the base!"
Ok- but if I throw an eagle airstrike in there . . .
"Yeah that's using your stratagems, that's fine"
But it's faster AND easier AND less risky than making myself vulnerable on a mountain
"Yeah but then you'll shoot things!!!! STOP SHOOTING THINGS, USE YOUR STRATAGEMS!"
WE DID
Right on point
You can hear the automaton moaning in agony at 8:02 glad im watching this before bed.
I don't mind them making helldivers 2 feel more like helldivers 1 but at least give us the tools we had in hd1 like the distractor beacon and UAV drone. Bonus points if they can make the Armor look like hd1.
hd1 had like 1/4 of the heavy spawn rates if that at all. the worst I have seen on diff 9 in HD1 was 3 chargers at once. in HD2 I have sen up to 5 spawn from the same bugbreach and patrols with 3+ normal and 1-2 special all converging on your location at once. 13+ chargers and 1-3 titans is not an uncommon sight in 9+.
This was fun to watch. good sht Doug
I love how the expendable anti tank can pass through a scavenger or between a bots legs....wtf
and it doesn't actually explode, if you shoot a group of ticks hugging each other, it'll only kill one of them.
you should move your face came up a lil so we can see the full map
How are you guys dealing with the new rocket striders (fortified scout striders with rockets)?
Apart from using lasercannon and railgun, which I don't want to take at high difficulty anyways, I've been struggling to kill them with anything else. I know how to deal with them (crotch, legs, side rockets), but I just feel that I can't clean them fast enough when they come from the front, and that's the biggest challenge I've been having with this update. I generally fight them with the autocannon, trying to hit the legs or the crotch, but as it shows in the video, autocannon's shitty autoaim (PC) aims between the legs or the frontplate, so I find myself missing too many shots, and you can't afford that in helldive... It's super frustrating. Also, exploding the rockets is nice, but I rarely have the side angle (and shooting them from the front is kinda bugged), and manytimes from a distance you can't tell if it has the rocket or just the used guide... Help.
21:51 You can break it with a commando if you destroy a fabricator next to it. Though that's not news
When this game came out I said it had a shelf life of about 3 months. Primarily because the balance philosophy is counter intuitive, the game is about as complex as a kiddy pool and it has to remain that way to sell more warbonds. The game resist any features that would allow it to safely introduce different playstyles without breaking the difficulty by insisting that the game is essentially 1v200 call of duty lobby in space.
Complex as a Kiddy pool is true and hilarious 😂