Cheers for this, I been tryin to find out about "does astrology work for marriage" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Peyoraan Aristocratic Preponderance - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now )? It is a good one off guide for discovering how to find out your lucky day to win big in life using this astrology based system minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got excellent success with it.
Not sure if you guys gives a damn but if you are stoned like me atm then you can stream all of the new movies on InstaFlixxer. Been watching with my brother lately =)
Lip given we know little to nothing about consciousness I wouldn’t say science can claim that the gravitational field of different astrological bodies don’t have an impact on someone’s personality. I’m not all bought in, I very much believe that our experiences shape us more than other, but I do believe it’s possible that astrology leaves a footprint of a framework for how you organize your experiences
That's stupid. Astrologers are not psychics, if you want your deeper personality/characteristics "read" an astrologer would need to know your exact date of birth and where you were born. His comment only illustrates he hasn't even bothered looking into what an astrologer does, and how. or what astrology is for that matter.
@@rustneversleeps85 alright first of all I saw many student that went to study astrology most of them enjoy looking at it online but later they got interested in it soo they decided to studied it but after 4 months they abandoned the subject because it doesn’t even make any sense confuse as shit.Those are my bff they’re all female why tf did you even tell us this ? It already had been proven false many times and you astrologer retreat and said astrology is not science anymore but first you argue that astrology is science don’t make me laugh what a pity idiot you are
I love how he probably hates such non-scientific bs, yet explains everything with detailed answers, while also including the listening party and making them an active part of the conversation. This is truly inspiring. I assume he likes and respects every individual by default
@@aleksandrosofficial You don't have to believe it. It's not a religion with a preset dogma. It is a system with which you can or cannot relate depending upon your personal desires.
@@mamarama5174 His explanation was completely logical, you two just aren't smart enough to understand what he's saying. That humans are egocentric and sometimes see patterns that aren't existent, like the arrangement of stars in the sky having any impact on a person, because we think we're special and the universe is all about us when the truth is we're just another species on Earth and the universe will carry on fine as it did, since the beginning of time, even if we went extinct.
@@slothmanjay5029 Just the opposite of astrology in believing that "we're special" and the "universe is all abt us". It shows that we are all inter-connected to everything around us. There is a "fixed" place for ALL the planets and stars and its never-ending. So you are just not smart enough to understand astrology and thats why you have a problem with it. Science cant explain anything about how it all began with proof, just their OPINION. Besides that what does whether we became extinct (or how many species there are) have to do with ANYTHING?
EVERY TIME!!!! I’ve gotten my natal chart read 4 different times and it’s something different each time. There’s no cohesiveness or consistency with the reading. One person tells you that this means this while the other person tells you that this means that and this person over here tells you something completely different from the other two ppl-a pseudoscientific madness
how do u know you getting read by an actual astrologer? and astrology and numerology is way bigger than predicting how your gonna be feeling next tuesday and personality trait. its god's divine plan
@andres barriga. go read my comment on your reply to me. Exactly what do you think alchemy is? if chemist are putting two or more substances together to see what kind of reaction they give or what 3rd or more substance comes of this is Alchemy duh?!?! All chemistry is alchemy and alchemy is not just a physical thing. you do alchemy everyday between your thoughts and your feelings to produce. How about having a baby with someone. Sex is alchemy because tow bodies come together to create a third. what do you think a fetus is doing in the womb? LOSTNESS. everybody lost because you have been put in a magic square by those that actually know the truth. Astrology is real and they use it everyday to brain wash you. otherwise why do we have holidays at certain astrological dates i.e Xmas. Easter. Why do the Jews celebrate passover the 1st full moon once the sun goes 1 degree over the equator. i.e Spring? the sun passing over the equator (Passover) they give meaning and rituals to this i.e Astrology.
@Animesucks cum what a silly comment. Yes physical sex doesn't always end up with a pregnancy but there are many forms of sex: mental, emotional, and physical. Sex is the joining of 2 energies to create a 3rd. You have an idea and you mix it with someone else's idea and you both create a 3rd. Throwing insults doesn't change it and if you look at the animal kingdom animals have sex to procreate because we don't doesn't mean that's not the primary reason for it. Dumbass
@Animesucks cum you obviously don't know much about life or alchemy. Best to sit this one out. Are we not energetic beings. Find me someone alive who has no energy.
@Animesucks cum okay so now you're lost in Language, Logic, Linguistics, L's. I never said sex always creates a third person, even though it does otherwise how else did you get here? when two energies come together they create a third. it's that simple don't get lost in all them L's. that's basic alchemy that's basic chemistry. don't get lost in google definitions. that just shows you have no mind of your own. seriously having to google what Sex is???? and by energies i mean energy i never mentioned people. again sex is not just a physical thing. I broke down the esoteric meaning of sex two energies coming together to make a third. what you are trying to do is take what i am saying spiritually and basing it purely on the physical. I mentioned alchemy and life because i was responding to the post which mentions alchemy and chemistry. Why the fuck you commenting for if not about that? You say Astrology is not real yet you clearly know nothing about it so where are you basing this off of? oh yh that's right, someone else's interpretation of astrology and their conclusions as to why it's fake. if that ain't being lost and a dumbass then what is. Do you use your own mind or is google and others opinion your mind? the world is lost. even your handle is dumb, what are you 12 years old? Learn astrology then come back and say it's fake otherwise shut the fuck up and stay in your lane.
the comment section displays that anything said by a man is scientific and always true (yes I know he is a scientist but absolutely nothing of what is said in this video is scientific or factual)
Modern science is defined by its refusal to explore certain things, including astrology. Please note, astrologers have been predicting that 2020 would be monumental, for years.
@@ssppaarrkkyy what make you think that ? 😂 and second smart people don’t call themselves smart and third smart people will never believe in this kind of shit called astrology
I like the way Tyson approached this. Scientists are given a bad name because stereotypically they’re patronising and act like they know everything, steamrolling over other’s beliefs without any thought or feeling, but the way Tyson gently explained why astrology is false according to science is the way these debates should be carried out, rather than extreme condescension and condemnation of the opposition.
Most scientists build ego and structured limitations therefore disallowing them to tap into the true knowledge of time. This video is cringe due to the fact we are all the center of our own universe in the sense it's all just a reflection of your internal state and process. No coincidences or luck or randomness or narcissism. They are an impossibility. Astrology is not just real it's fundamental to the diverse range of consciousness necessary to strive forward in creation. This garbage is perpetuated to build the barriers in people's mind and keep perception at a ruined state of function. It will all be known soon tho. ✌
When I was young I was naive, innocent did not know how to question, as I get older and a parent, I realise allot of our personality our traits don't come from the stars, universe, God or whatever it comes from our childhoods how we were raised our environments (tv, pop culture, Home) our caregivers, how we were treated the trick is to unlearn what wasnt helpful and embrace the parts that helps or evolve them and learn new things, easier said than done the process is always tougher than awareness As Neil said it best our egos think Mars cares about us, that should say it all. Love this guy.
And yet a natal chart can tell you what your childhood would play out. Mars does not care what it does to us. That does not mean we cannot feel its effect.
Most scientists build ego and structured limitations therefore disallowing them to tap into the true knowledge of time. This video is cringe due to the fact we are all the center of our own universe in the sense it's all just a reflection of your internal state and process. No coincidences or luck or randomness or narcissism. They are an impossibility. Astrology is not just real it's fundamental to the diverse range of consciousness necessary to strive forward in creation. This garbage is perpetuated to build the barriers in people's mind and keep perception at a ruined state of function. It will all be known soon tho. ✌
I love this guy. He's absolutely astonishing explananing science and helping me to understand stuff that otherwise I wouldn't. The thing is: any conversation I hear from him regarding anything else than science makes me believe that he knows nothing outside of it.
The Lex Apollo whats mathematical about what some people saw a couple hundred years ago when they looked at stars and formed lines in between them. Whats mathematical about forcing an earthly object to appear in stars cause you want it to so badly. Trillions of stars in trillions of directions makes it kinda easy to draw anything you want in between doesnt it. Its been navigation but besides that youd have to prove to me how stars hundreds of lightyears away from us have anything to do with math
You all are lost. The minute you go outside and look up and see the sun, you looking at astrology. If you look at watch and tell the time, you looking at astrology, if you say summer, winter, Spring, and fall, you looking at astrology, if you celebrate Easter, Xmas etc you looking at astrology, Neil Degreasse Tyson is talking shit. The bible is pure astrology.
@@fizzabatool2490 lol you call pseudoscience but I can go outside and show you what I'm talking about. It's easy to call astrology pseudoscience when you don't understand it or you listen to those talk about it that obvs don't understand it or want too. You think the ancients who were much smarter than us (see pyramids) where that dumb to just look at the stars and build monuments to them for No reason. Science today is never right it's all theory and NDT opinion is just that. Opinion. Learn astrology and you'll see. Remember science once said the earth was flat. Also said the sun revolved around the earth. The scientific method? What makes you think that it is correct?
Let's take his words - seasons, corresponding nutrition, are a plausible reason to assert the astrological findings. It is incorrect to say it has nothing to do with positions of the planets. Seasons are literally based on the position of our planet relative to the sun. Boom astrology
Believing in Astrology also keeps people's minds off the fact that there really is a much more immediate, organized systemic oppression all around us--it's not the stars that draw your fate, it's the people who had a huge head start in life due to inherited wealth, who understood political & power structures long before your immigrant / impoverished self could lift your head out of water to figure it out.
The same people who do not want you to study astrology/make you think it's a fortune telling tool astrology is a tool to help you understand your purpose and your soul
Isn't it possible that astrology is based on gravitational forces? The moon drags the oceans. We're made mostly of water. Is it not possible that gravitational forces affect us, both at birth and throughout our lives? When I was at UC Berkeley in 1970, I was friends with a young guy who wanted to become a professional astrologer. We did an experiment for him to practice . I was going home for Christmas and arranged for a get together. All those attending gave me the date, the time of day and the city/state of their birth. He said that was all he needed to do a basic natal chart. He explained that a natal chart would describe with accuracy the personality of the subject. There were 8 of us going to be there. We all knew each other. The 8 charts did not have names, nor any of the date/time/location identifiers. I handed them out at random. As people read the chart, they started saying "Oh, I got yours". Each of the 8 persons correctly handed the chart they were reading to the person it belonged to. Were there incorrect assertions and other errors? Of course. But there was no denying the identity of each persons chart. I've never been a New Age kind of guy, and have never used astrology to guide my life. But I do not dismiss it entirely. I think you'd go broke trying to go full Nancy Regan, and base investments or public policy on the stars. But in very general terms I think it's useful. For example, my 3 ex-wives all agreed that even though I was born in late September, I was born under the sign of Feces.
If it was real it would’ve been empirically proven. Instead, it’s been disproven thousands of times with a thousand different methods. So your once in a lifetime coincidental experience is not science.
Everything in western culture has to end with being connected to a person, hence Mr. Tyson thinks astrology was for fulfilling ego. Interesting how he assumed this premise and his depth of understanding is proven very shallow
My take on this is that there is surely much that isn’t yet known on the effects of planets, orbits, etc… because we might not have the correct tools or approach or ressources put in to understanding this but when you look at « real » astrology which takes into account time and location of birth, it shows that everyone has a unique astrological setup. Taking into account planets and cosmic bodies that take centuries to orbit the sun, others that orbit multiple times a year, their interaction between each other, etc… you can imagine that this much have at least some impact, whether in terms of energy or gravitation or something else (I’m definitely not an astronomist or astrophysicist). But it is interesting when you take « pro software » and see every transit taking effect at one given moment, and see that there are general trends during pretty precise periods and when I look at this for people around me it seems to be pretty on par on those « nothing is going right regardless of my efforts » periods and « somehow everything is just clicking ». It won’t tell you your future but it seems to describe your current « atmosphere » surrounding you. There are long phases that are super challenging and that you have to survive through with brief « positive » transits that let you breathe and the opposite at other moments. I’d really like there to be a sort of scientific explanation one day on this « ancient art ». But people relying on « Daily horoscopes » based on just a star sign is definitely not reliable and it doesn’t serve the « art » 😅
@RainbowFarmer if Neil studied astrology and still thinks it's nonsense then i would respect him , and the same with u too but unfortunately that's not the scenario ,so no point in wasting time
We do have a scientific explanation, astrology is bs, simple as that. What you've described is cognitive bias, where people cherry-pick evidence. Yes planets do have an effect on us gravitationally, however in physics we can use formulas to calculate the strength of forces acting on an object, the forces planets have on us are so insignificant compared to the house that you live in that it is absurd to suggest they influence us in any way.
I can’t believe I used to think he was a brilliant man. He has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He acts like everything he knows didn’t come from astrologers. Astrologers, astronomers, mathematicians, philosophers, and a lot of the time doctors. were all one field at one time. And he acts like humans went from ignorant to what we have now. There isn’t a single person alive today that could do what Ptolemy did. With all our gadgets and technology they still knew more than we do so to say they were ignorant enough to make seasonal correlations about health is f-being ridiculous.
Gadgets have made us dumber as a whole. We've been desensitized. People can't even remember numbers anymore because we don't have to remember phone numbers. People can't navigate without GPS. It's well researched that the more you depend on external tech, the less function we have internally.
Neil is a typical Gemini. Likes to broadcast superficial information and claim to be intelligent without going in depth He is not a scientist. He did not invent anything new. He is just a good broadcaster of knowledge which he gathers from books written by others I like him but he is wrong here
Right so the moon doesn’t control the tides nor the liquid in my brain ? And like he said himself depending on the time of the month, I could be different from someone else health wise.. I could’ve swore mental and psychological issues would be the result of those differences.
i fully expected to watch this video and be convinced astrology is not real. instead I got random assertions of inaccurate history and egoism by a man who did not at all explain that scientifically and then defended men buying cars
My wife and I recently saw him give a talk in Oakland....brilliant and very engaging man with a great sense of humor. Of course, he spent some time in his youth with the great Carl Sagan, so I wouldn't expect anything less.
@@mazaltawab9360 You don't really need an equation. Just an explanation of how one affects the other. I feel like saying space and time is too broad to give any merit.
I don't know what to believe but I know that zodiac and astrology would explain a Creator's diagram or a creators guide on like what controls the madness and keeps parameters and that way there is a way to organize things or a system of laws to keep creating the same basic flow of your creation if there is a creator... Anyone who can elaborate or add to my sleep deprived explaining or way of it making Sense.. theorized not saying it's true just how it could be
All people who have these anti- astrology ideas most likely have never studied it. And it probably is suggested in their charts. 😁 It is what it is. We know there has to be this balance or else there would be no mysteries. Jus Sayin'
Extremism is the same all over... be it science or religion or whatever... They don't know what they don't know... One day science will prove much of what is considering "meta-physics"...
Christofred Garcia-Estrada I think it's a good oportunity, a lot of people still believes that those are the same field and that astrology has scientific bases
You can be interesting into that stuff but I don't think t's egocentric... The universe is not in any way 'about' us but it doesn't mean we can't utilize it to help us understand some stuff..?
There is no zodiac or astronomy without the sun so lets set this straight off jump. MAGNETISM is the energy that rules our universe and this dimension of material, time and space as we know it. Even down to the atom and molecular level, magnetism is the energy that allows each atom to spin and bind with other atoms to form solid structures though two atoms colliding together will naturally repell from one another creating heat as a by-product which is the law of friction and represents why we can't walk through walls or other solid structures because the wall would repell us from passing through it just as two ends of a magnet will naturally repell each other and cannot touch under natural causes. The sun or light is the life force of what we know as energy on every level and can't exist without magnetism. When you heat up a pot of cool water you will see the water begin to spin and boil. This is a great example of how magnetism works on a larger scale and on a smaller scale. As above so below. As the water boils in response to being in contact with heat so does the atom spin when in contact with heat or light. For example we know that magnetism or the gravity of the moons spin has a great influence on the ocean and its currents with colder water being more dense than the warmer waters which causes them to separate and the same is true for the wind currents and the density of air, the higher you go the thinner air becomes and the lower you go the more dense the air becomes. So in the same way the moon and sun has an influence on our bodies since we are 70% made of water. During birth our brain is very maluable and is influenced by the magnetism of the moon and sun which does have a influence on the child's personality and personal interests to some degree based on the spin position of each embryo's brain development in accordance to the spin position of the sun, moon and stars that pull on us and influence the nerve network of our brain structure and the spin patterns of our spinal fluids in our early development and becomes more prominent when the brain becomes more solid as the child ages. The nature of magnetism is to find a path of least resistance which is why planets are always round in shape including the planets orbit. In science we call this the fiboncci sequence but our ancestors knew this sequence thousands of years ago well before our time. Through out history wise men got together and maped out the heavens and converted there knowledge into stories to pass down to their kids from generation to generation which is how we got the zodiac stories but the science behind the zodiac has been almost lost but this is the truth. Eany leading scientist will agree with what I've written here.
Here's science debunking its debunking while trying to debunk: The skeptics have already proven that astrology is real in a widely published, peer reviewed study. ua-cam.com/video/6MQJWHR9USQ/v-deo.html I'd love to see how Mr. DeGrasse Tyson deals with this revelation.
Not claiming the veracity of the subject, but this man clearly has never studied how ancient cultures actually studied or understood these things whatsoever. To say it is an ego-centric stance is absolutely absurd. I think he is talking about himself here.
It might...newborn children are sensitive...if you get a disease since when you were a newborn or a few months child you're likely to have that disease for a long ass time
I respect the science and how much data we have recorded and how we use that data as tools to navigate life. But I do find it hard to believe that planets bend matter and pull things into orbit around them and have effects on our earth and that the universe is riddle with patterns but we think we aren’t affected at all by that when everything around us is. I would say that’s egocentric. However it could be that since they navigated using the stars, when characteristic patterns were recognized in people they projected that to the stars as a way of mapping it out. Either way it’s pretty cool
Its late but i still reply to this : The planets and stars can bend matter and pull things in their orbits because they are literaally huge their gravity is unimaginable times bigger than that of every single human being on our planet . They effect because of their gravity and we dont because of the same reason .
I don't think astrology or numerology or palm reading,necessary has any significance.I want someone to leave something I believe that up to them, it's sort of like freedom of speech...I think people could say things that aren't true but I but I reserve the right for people to say what they want to sayper se ,or speak their mind.I also think that a book like the Bible or the Quran,is very different from something like astrology or palmistry....I don't put it in the same group...I guess what I'm trying to say is if someone believes in God they have the right to believe in God...and they may have their own reasons to believe in God...and it's not science...I mean not believing in kourend per se.but I think that people should have the right to believe in it...I may not worship a cow but people have a right to worship a cow...a religion is a lot different to me than say astrology...each religion is different anyway...spiritual stores have their own meaning,I do have a right to believe then however it may influence them or affect themor Inspire them...it's something that's not supposed to be science that's why it's faith.can have its own depth and that is up to individual not to scientists...there is it in between or scientist don't know anyways...
Believing in God and astrology do not have to be separate. Astrologers may want to separate themselves from Christianity's God and call God by another name, but it doesn't mean they don't believe in God.
As far as predicting your future, I think they really base it on the time you were born, the place you were born and your gender and they base it on the culture you grew up in and a list of probabilities. It's the zodiac accuracy of your personality that I want to understand.
It's a cold read and confirmation bias Usually the personality traits that are associated with your zodiac are extremely vague and kind so they do tend to be true and you can attribute them to yourself
There is actually some scientific correlation between your date of birth and temperament/personality traits. It isn't based on planets or stars but on the season in which you are born. Different temperatures and climate effects can affect us biologically, which makes much more sense on an empirical evidence level.
@@crassiewassie8354 I used to wonder about that but whenever I made a mistake and read the wrong aspect thinking it was about me I would feel off and wonder why it didn’t correspond to anything I know about myself. As soon as I correct it and read the right one it would resonate completely. Threw confirmation bias out the window for me after a few of those errors.
can someone please elaborate on his opinion or give me your opinion on when he said "the universe isn't about you" @4:30 like what are some tips as well please
He seems to mean that people are stuck in old ways where the Earth was the center of the universe. The thing is astrology is not about the universe caring, it is simply cyclical. The point of astrology is understanding that the forces emitted by the planets in relation to Earth do affect us.
Strawman. On both sides. This isn’t the real discussion around astrology. Astrology is not egocentric because it is not about your personality. Americans have taken that and ran with it because America is egocentric. Astrology is basically a different calendar system and observation of tendencies within that calendar system. Based on the stars and lunar cycles, rather than agricultural and industrial cycles. literally going with the cycles of the earth rather than the cycles of infrastructure. I’m tired of this dichotomy of astrology versus science while astrology is continually rebranded as a Myers-Briggs type eugenic bias. it’s propaganda. But that’s America for you. Create fake hype around mysticism, wait for it to catch on, and then lump it in with actual historical knowledge and philosophy. It is all noise.
Astrology was used for mundane events before it became related to the natal interpretations. Also, the Universe "out there" is just a projection of your inner one. Read Jung, Gauquelin, Cristoff, then give your opinion.
From a gravitational perspective everything does not influence you because of course stars dont revolve around you and also their effect on life on earth is near to zero (apart from the moon and sun). So i get where neil comes from, but, thats not the case of light. Light does ‘revolve’ around us from this perspective as if we were the center, and light doeas affect life, more that that, life was created because of the light and from it. Now going further from whats proven by science, what causes such complexity of evolution must not be the intensity of light but the information it carries at a quantum level, wich is a nature of light that cant yet be decoded (we just know wavelenghts and interpret the chemical source with an spectroscope). So doesnt matter how far away a planet is, it can have an effect on life here; by its very dim but whole light. I think its very possible.
All I know is I'm a Pisces and I'm a dreamer and extremely creative and artistic and want to fix everyone and my husband is a virgo and wants to fix everything and is very neat and critical. We fit our signs to a T. Yes, some of the traits can fit everyone but not everyone is artistic and creative. And not everyone is a neat freak and critical. We tick of all the boxes for our signs. I just find it odd. I don't think it totally defines you or you should live your life by it... But it is interesting Science tells us everything is connected and gravity effects us, we knows that. We also know plants and the sun and moon effect the earth. We are beings of the earth so why isn't it possible somewhere in our cells that make us those bodies had an affect. Just something to think about.
Your signs are literally not your signs. The earth has shifted in axis so where the sun was when you were born was based on something 2000 years ago. Please continue your cognitive dissonance.
Ahh the ego of Neil .. don’t forget the ancient people and everything he believes stands atop thousands of years of our ancestors .. and they have seen everything and did not have scientific tools and had to study the planting season and the moon phases .. and after thousands of years noticed identifying properties .. but I’m sure he’s got it .. he stands with such a .. scientific fist .. that is the first way you can tell someone is wrong .. but no .. Neil is so smart .. I’m sure he’s got it all down lmfao
Just remember in 50 years two thirds of what he believes will be proven wrong … and aim not saying thousands of years of people studying stars equate to to a certain knowledge .. but it’s so much older than he is .. and he speaks with great girth based on a science platform that is generally just as hypothetical and not tested for even vaguely as long .. when he is gone, when civilization is gone .. these things will remain
Just because he calls Ms. Clarkson out on it, Mr. Tyson was born (if the internet is correct) on October 5, 1958, nine years later than the baseball and crime writer Bill James.
This is like a year too late, but basically, he's saying that we humans took astronomical coincidence and observation and made it all about us, instead of viewing it for what it is, coincidence and observation. He's saying that things like astrology are more a thing of human ego than actual science. I happen to agree with him here.
She is so annoying. She couldn’t wait to interrupt him over and over. He could have said a lot more interesting things; instead you hear her babble and repeat herself. I respect and honor this man greatly.
The point discussed that stood out strongest to me is when Neil Degrasse Tyson said Astrology is a way for people to dominate over one another. Seems like a scape goat answer vs a real understanding of the collective unconscious of human. Every human has the potential to dominate over another it just depends on what circumstance you’re in to illicit that response. Jungian psychologists refer that to the shadow of human consciousness. Every aspect of oneself that was discarded to survive, yet exists quietly there in a mysterious corner of the self. I do understand that there is a lot of corruption in the world and he is referencing that in a subtle and indirect way. What do you think in response to my thoughts?
But if our universe and everything in it is generated from one thing which is the big bang as scientists claim isn't is logical that everything is connected together in some way ? If we believe in causality then everything in the universe has an effect even if its a small one on something else,thats just my opinion
You can't say no until you fully analyse your birth chart. Not just your zodiac sign. That's call ignorance. Do not talk about what you don't know about.🤚
@@clyde1072 she's saying it's like asking an atheist about god or religion. Scientists will always mock astrology just like how religion prohibits their people from practicing it. This is the very why I'm very interested in astrology. It's not for everyone, some people do have some kind of special frequency to connect to other people through astrology. Astrology is not science but maybe that's a wrong way to say about it.
This is a simple matter of definition, astrology is not a science in the way we chose to define the word since the claims being made are not testable! The leaps in logic are just too big. You can say that the stars send magnetic fields down to earth and that everything influences everything else through gravity, and this is the science of physics. These observations have lead to theories which represent our current, and most probable explanation of phenomenon. The leap to it influencing our personalities in predictable ways is untestable and unscientific, at least with our current tools and understanding. If astrologists really wanted to help their own cause, they would study something like astrophysics, in an attempt to bridge this gap. Unfortunately, those who try to prove their arguments using a series of disparate facts taken out of context likely also have little to no clue about how actual scientific research looks. We are supposed to be living in an enlightened world at this point, and the advent of modern science was supposed to wipe out all ideas of religion, yet people clung to it because of their ego. We live in a very exciting time when we may soon travel to other planets, synthesize new forms of life. Actual science takes time, it is difficult to learn, we often get it wrong, science is willing to admit that, but astrologists are not? Proper science is not a system of beliefs. A scientist must always be willing to alter their current understanding if a better explanation presents itself, unfortunately even in science ego might get in the way, and we do not do a perfect job. But the intention still stands.
Neil is somewhat wrong about one thing, in per civic children exclusively born in summer most of the time this was because people knew they could have lower amount of food in the winter
That's the best point ive heard him make about this, the fact that believing the sun moon and stars affect us is very egocentric. but I dont know, Im one to believe it affects all living beings
It's odd that even Neil deGrasse is oddly closed off to science when it suits his biases. Moons affect tides... humans are composed of water... to say it wouldn't affect us as well, being part of the universe and essentially universes of our own... would be a bit closed-minded, no? Dismissing Mars/retrograde is similar. Now. Using that as a prop to dwindle and say your life is a mess is a whole 'nudder thing.
The moon affect tides yes, but it doesn’t affect to that great extent the structure of your brain, your neurons and chemicals reactions that form your personality. What you eat, your genetics, the people who you talk to, the weather, the traumas, all of that have direct contribution to your personality. But the moon? How the hell do you prove it has connection scientifically? Even if you prove, how the hell do you know if it makes you ambitious, determined, pragmatic or whatever the horoscope says? None of that makes sense
No. The moon affects tides because of gravity, not because of water. Humans are composed of water, but they're also composed of other things like bone, which are also victim to the same gravity. He isn't closed off to 'suit his bias'. The scientific literature says there is no effect. This is science we are talking about. It's not about closed and open-mindedness. It's about falsifiable ideas, of which astrology is one.
@@JoeyTurVic everything you said also affects the person & IS included in astrology. The problem is that scammers & pseudo astrologers are way too many that it gets difficult to find really good astrologers. A truly good astrologer would mention all the factors you said, while giving explanations. And no, pRediCtiNg eXacT sTuFf isn't what happens. Good astrologers will tell you that your birth chart is just a blue print, there's still lot of choices & uncertainty within that blue print... That's where freewill comes. Do not blame the subject because of the people who overcrowd it.
I'm a total noob but when it comes to astrology readings and such, i really align with them. but furthermore, i feel as though i align less to the readings of other signs. so like, there is something to it, in a modern sense at least surface level. it's like the causation without correlation or whatever, i get it's coming at it from the wrong light, but. i can't just simply dismiss it entirely. he made a good point about the egocentrism though. that was enlightening.
You either have an alternate point or you don’t Please, prove his thought process on this wrong. Give us your expert opinion on why astrology is valid. Use any material you can lay your hands on. I’ll wait.
There is very strong evidence from controlled research studies for astrology. Here is a link to the first of a series of videos that I made on the evidence for astrology: ua-cam.com/video/kFYGelO0JYk/v-deo.html You can skip to Part 4 if you wish to go directly to the strongest evidence presented in this series, which is here: ua-cam.com/video/r-nkg-w30Vk/v-deo.html
WILLIAM : Ay, sir, I have a pretty wit. TOUCHSTONE : Why, thou sayst well. I do now remember a saying: “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” The heathen philosopher, when he had a desire to eat a grape, would open his lips when he put it into his mouth, meaning thereby that grapes were made to eat and lips to open.
She's trying so hard to make the question seem less ridiculous and more plausible... Kelly, you knew the answer before asking. What a waste of a question...
They play their parts humbly. I applaud their human performances. He is a Libra and she is a Taurus. Both are ruled by the planet Venus which represents harmony in relationships.
Degrasse debunked it, so did NASA. They said astronomy is not affiliated with astrology, so where are they getting the movements and the degrees from in the houses if science isn't backing it, according to the Museum of Natural History "Astrology is not a science, but it can be fun to think about" I don't imagine astrologers are flying up there in their spaceships to calculate the movements of the planets around the sun.
My family is the perfect example of 4 people that are nothing like the descriptions given for their sign. Once I realized that (and I turned 25) i never looked at another horoscope
In other words, science hasn’t figured it out yet. But seriously he doesn’t even believe in God. so, I would have been surprised if he said he believed in astrology. 😂
Isaac newton died about 300 years ago when we didn't know anywhere near as much about the universe. Astrology is some bullshit make believe and it's illogical to even propose otherwise
Because back then astrology was considered science, its a while ago, things change. A while ago we thought the milky way was our whole universe. We dont still defend that now cause theres proof for it that its not
from the little I understand, it is NOT about making the stars fitting our ego, it has to do with where the stars were positioned in the sky at the time of your birth so in fact it is the other way around. this video is pure fail
kevin sutavee Great, you just proved astrology wrong. Because the positioning of the stars and planets is never the same, therefore monthly basis patterns like the ones from an horoscope cannot exist
Joel Vicente thank you! You just got put in your place my friend. Also theres billions of stars and planets so how is a position of a star or planet even relevant to the birth of a creature that is lightyears away from it. Astrology is hippy bullshit.
It’s a fail if you listen to it with an ear that’s turned away towards what you want to hear and not towards questioning your own believes. Nothing will make sense to you if you close your mind to other perspectives
Lol you are claiming that someone who studied for this his whole life doesnt know and you, a youtube warrior who is still in school (not even close to astronomy level learning) claim to know shit he doesnt know😂😂😂
Patsy Stone Gauquelin had failed to find the Mars effect in populations after 1950. Attempts to validate the data and to replicate the effect had varying results. Therefore we can safely say it isn’t something with scientific merit
I would love him to have a conversation with certain Indian Gurus.. He's a brilliant scientist but has no idea what he is talking about when he talks about ego or astrology
Neil clearly owns a sports car 😅 ...He should of mentioned how the Earth's precession makes their entire chart innacurate anyway, but they didn't know that at the time this nonsense was created
This is not how it works. Please understand your birth chart is the key with astrology. This video does not scratch the surface of astrology or use any terminology. One sided, uneducated argument. Sad to see Neil carry an incomplete argument. Dang Neil, I used to like you, but it is clear you speak empty words.
Her: I have one that you'll probably think is silly...
Him: NO! Trust me...I've been asked: "Is math related to science?"
Cheers for this, I been tryin to find out about "does astrology work for marriage" for a while now, and I think this has helped. You ever tried - Peyoraan Aristocratic Preponderance - (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now )?
It is a good one off guide for discovering how to find out your lucky day to win big in life using this astrology based system minus the normal expense. Ive heard some decent things about it and my mate got excellent success with it.
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@Abdullah Brandon Definitely, I have been using instaflixxer for since december myself :)
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@Anon Niche *
Neil "If you're into the stuff, then you should know" Tyson
Truly witty, he sounds like what knowledge is
@The Lex Apollo
Science is Science.
Most, if not all logic based reasoning can be carried over to many subjects.
Sorry to burst your horoscope.
Lip given we know little to nothing about consciousness I wouldn’t say science can claim that the gravitational field of different astrological bodies don’t have an impact on someone’s personality. I’m not all bought in, I very much believe that our experiences shape us more than other, but I do believe it’s possible that astrology leaves a footprint of a framework for how you organize your experiences
@@bridgerparker4275
Very good point
That's stupid. Astrologers are not psychics, if you want your deeper personality/characteristics "read" an astrologer would need to know your exact date of birth and where you were born. His comment only illustrates he hasn't even bothered looking into what an astrologer does, and how. or what astrology is for that matter.
@@rustneversleeps85 alright first of all I saw many student that went to study astrology most of them enjoy looking at it online but later they got interested in it soo they decided to studied it but after 4 months they abandoned the subject because it doesn’t even make any sense confuse as shit.Those are my bff they’re all female why tf did you even tell us this ? It already had been proven false many times and you astrologer retreat and said astrology is not science anymore but first you argue that astrology is science don’t make me laugh what a pity idiot you are
I love how he probably hates such non-scientific bs, yet explains everything with detailed answers, while also including the listening party and making them an active part of the conversation. This is truly inspiring. I assume he likes and respects every individual by default
He gave no details at all. Just a bizarre story about how ancient cultures knew nothing about nutrition as a metaphor he pulled out of his ass.
@@aleksandrosofficial His being an astronomer doesn't make him an expert on astrology. But scientists believe they are the authorities on everything.
@@aleksandrosofficial You don't have to believe it. It's not a religion with a preset dogma. It is a system with which you can or cannot relate depending upon your personal desires.
@@mamarama5174 His explanation was completely logical, you two just aren't smart enough to understand what he's saying. That humans are egocentric and sometimes see patterns that aren't existent, like the arrangement of stars in the sky having any impact on a person, because we think we're special and the universe is all about us when the truth is we're just another species on Earth and the universe will carry on fine as it did, since the beginning of time, even if we went extinct.
@@slothmanjay5029 Just the opposite of astrology in believing that "we're special" and the "universe is all abt us". It shows that we are all inter-connected to everything around us. There is a "fixed" place for ALL the planets and stars and its never-ending. So you are just not smart enough to understand astrology and thats why you have a problem with it. Science cant explain anything about how it all began with proof, just their OPINION. Besides that what does whether we became extinct (or how many species there are) have to do with ANYTHING?
“If you’re into this stuff, you should just know” THANK YOU!! The constant contradictions from these ‘astrologers’ is what gets me every time.
EVERY TIME!!!! I’ve gotten my natal chart read 4 different times and it’s something different each time. There’s no cohesiveness or consistency with the reading. One person tells you that this means this while the other person tells you that this means that and this person over here tells you something completely different from the other two ppl-a pseudoscientific madness
@@UA-camReady And it’s always just vague enough to apply to anyone at anytime.
@@UA-camReady or you're too dumb to keep up with it
how do u know you getting read by an actual astrologer? and astrology and numerology is way bigger than predicting how your gonna be feeling next tuesday and personality trait. its god's divine plan
@@singaporechickenrice2484 hey bro
let him talk
I think she’s just a little nervous around him. But idk 🤷♂️..anyway Jesus loves you man God bless
Her question took up half the video
what’s wrong about asking questions that’s the only way you can learn anything ever
Irony
@@kamariweaver1536 without her question the video wouldn’t even exist dumbass
Believing in astrology today because it it’s historical origin is like still believing alchemy over chemistry because that was it’s begining.
@andres barriga. go read my comment on your reply to me. Exactly what do you think alchemy is? if chemist are putting two or more substances together to see what kind of reaction they give or what 3rd or more substance comes of this is Alchemy duh?!?! All chemistry is alchemy and alchemy is not just a physical thing. you do alchemy everyday between your thoughts and your feelings to produce. How about having a baby with someone. Sex is alchemy because tow bodies come together to create a third. what do you think a fetus is doing in the womb? LOSTNESS. everybody lost because you have been put in a magic square by those that actually know the truth. Astrology is real and they use it everyday to brain wash you. otherwise why do we have holidays at certain astrological dates i.e Xmas. Easter. Why do the Jews celebrate passover the 1st full moon once the sun goes 1 degree over the equator. i.e Spring? the sun passing over the equator (Passover) they give meaning and rituals to this i.e Astrology.
@Animesucks cum what a silly comment. Yes physical sex doesn't always end up with a pregnancy but there are many forms of sex: mental, emotional, and physical. Sex is the joining of 2 energies to create a 3rd. You have an idea and you mix it with someone else's idea and you both create a 3rd. Throwing insults doesn't change it and if you look at the animal kingdom animals have sex to procreate because we don't doesn't mean that's not the primary reason for it. Dumbass
@Animesucks cum you obviously don't know much about life or alchemy. Best to sit this one out. Are we not energetic beings. Find me someone alive who has no energy.
@Animesucks cum okay so now you're lost in Language, Logic, Linguistics, L's. I never said sex always creates a third person, even though it does otherwise how else did you get here? when two energies come together they create a third. it's that simple don't get lost in all them L's. that's basic alchemy that's basic chemistry. don't get lost in google definitions. that just shows you have no mind of your own. seriously having to google what Sex is???? and by energies i mean energy i never mentioned people. again sex is not just a physical thing. I broke down the esoteric meaning of sex two energies coming together to make a third. what you are trying to do is take what i am saying spiritually and basing it purely on the physical. I mentioned alchemy and life because i was responding to the post which mentions alchemy and chemistry. Why the fuck you commenting for if not about that? You say Astrology is not real yet you clearly know nothing about it so where are you basing this off of? oh yh that's right, someone else's interpretation of astrology and their conclusions as to why it's fake. if that ain't being lost and a dumbass then what is. Do you use your own mind or is google and others opinion your mind? the world is lost. even your handle is dumb, what are you 12 years old?
Learn astrology then come back and say it's fake otherwise shut the fuck up and stay in your lane.
fighting on UA-cam is the prime state of dumbness.
the comment section displays that anything said by a man is scientific and always true (yes I know he is a scientist but absolutely nothing of what is said in this video is scientific or factual)
True... astrology cannot stand up to tests of modern science...and yet millions look forward to answers from the stars
Were exactly did modern/ancient science come from? The stars. Open your fucking mind dipshit.
Modern science is defined by its refusal to explore certain things, including astrology. Please note, astrologers have been predicting that 2020 would be monumental, for years.
@@ssppaarrkkyy 😂 your an idiot
@@saysamnang9851 me no, im smarter than einstein bro
@@ssppaarrkkyy what make you think that ? 😂 and second smart people don’t call themselves smart and third smart people will never believe in this kind of shit called astrology
I like the way Tyson approached this. Scientists are given a bad name because stereotypically they’re patronising and act like they know everything, steamrolling over other’s beliefs without any thought or feeling, but the way Tyson gently explained why astrology is false according to science is the way these debates should be carried out, rather than extreme condescension and condemnation of the opposition.
True, Apollo
Most scientists build ego and structured limitations therefore disallowing them to tap into the true knowledge of time. This video is cringe due to the fact we are all the center of our own universe in the sense it's all just a reflection of your internal state and process. No coincidences or luck or randomness or narcissism. They are an impossibility. Astrology is not just real it's fundamental to the diverse range of consciousness necessary to strive forward in creation. This garbage is perpetuated to build the barriers in people's mind and keep perception at a ruined state of function. It will all be known soon tho. ✌
Sad that most people talk about astrologie but don't now anything about it really
When I was young I was naive, innocent did not know how to question, as I get older and a parent, I realise allot of our personality our traits don't come from the stars, universe, God or whatever it comes from our childhoods how we were raised our environments (tv, pop culture, Home) our caregivers, how we were treated the trick is to unlearn what wasnt helpful and embrace the parts that helps or evolve them and learn new things, easier said than done the process is always tougher than awareness As Neil said it best our egos think Mars cares about us, that should say it all. Love this guy.
And yet a natal chart can tell you what your childhood would play out. Mars does not care what it does to us. That does not mean we cannot feel its effect.
you cannot possibly immediately disprove something you haven't researched yourself.
Most scientists build ego and structured limitations therefore disallowing them to tap into the true knowledge of time. This video is cringe due to the fact we are all the center of our own universe in the sense it's all just a reflection of your internal state and process. No coincidences or luck or randomness or narcissism. They are an impossibility. Astrology is not just real it's fundamental to the diverse range of consciousness necessary to strive forward in creation. This garbage is perpetuated to build the barriers in people's mind and keep perception at a ruined state of function. It will all be known soon tho. ✌
cap@@illuminate2140
I love this guy. He's absolutely astonishing explananing science and helping me to understand stuff that otherwise I wouldn't. The thing is: any conversation I hear from him regarding anything else than science makes me believe that he knows nothing outside of it.
For example?
He didn't want to tell her she was stupid for believing in astrology lol
TheUniverse Nside he just made her understand how foolish astrology is to define/validate your life choices by
The Lex Apollo whats mathematical about what some people saw a couple hundred years ago when they looked at stars and formed lines in between them. Whats mathematical about forcing an earthly object to appear in stars cause you want it to so badly. Trillions of stars in trillions of directions makes it kinda easy to draw anything you want in between doesnt it. Its been navigation but besides that youd have to prove to me how stars hundreds of lightyears away from us have anything to do with math
You all are lost. The minute you go outside and look up and see the sun, you looking at astrology. If you look at watch and tell the time, you looking at astrology, if you say summer, winter, Spring, and fall, you looking at astrology, if you celebrate Easter, Xmas etc you looking at astrology, Neil Degreasse Tyson is talking shit. The bible is pure astrology.
neochizen doesn’t abide by the scientific method therefore = pseudoscience
@@fizzabatool2490 lol you call pseudoscience but I can go outside and show you what I'm talking about. It's easy to call astrology pseudoscience when you don't understand it or you listen to those talk about it that obvs don't understand it or want too. You think the ancients who were much smarter than us (see pyramids) where that dumb to just look at the stars and build monuments to them for No reason. Science today is never right it's all theory and NDT opinion is just that. Opinion. Learn astrology and you'll see. Remember science once said the earth was flat. Also said the sun revolved around the earth. The scientific method? What makes you think that it is correct?
Let's take his words - seasons, corresponding nutrition, are a plausible reason to assert the astrological findings. It is incorrect to say it has nothing to do with positions of the planets. Seasons are literally based on the position of our planet relative to the sun. Boom astrology
Believing in Astrology also keeps people's minds off the fact that there really is a much more immediate, organized systemic oppression all around us--it's not the stars that draw your fate, it's the people who had a huge head start in life due to inherited wealth, who understood political & power structures long before your immigrant / impoverished self could lift your head out of water to figure it out.
You can believe in astrology and also believe in capitalism lmaoo
true
good answer
The universe doesn't give a fuck about your feelings or your socio economic status. It just cares that you are born and that you die.
The same people who do not want you to study astrology/make you think it's a fortune telling tool astrology is a tool to help you understand your purpose and your soul
Isn't it possible that astrology is based on gravitational forces? The moon drags the oceans. We're made mostly of water. Is it not possible that gravitational forces affect us, both at birth and throughout our lives?
When I was at UC Berkeley in 1970, I was friends with a young guy who wanted to become a professional astrologer. We did an experiment for him to practice . I was going home for Christmas and arranged for a get together. All those attending gave me the date, the time of day and the city/state of their birth. He said that was all he needed to do a basic natal chart. He explained that a natal chart would describe with accuracy the personality of the subject. There were 8 of us going to be there. We all knew each other.
The 8 charts did not have names, nor any of the date/time/location identifiers. I handed them out at random. As people read the chart, they started saying "Oh, I got yours". Each of the 8 persons correctly handed the chart they were reading to the person it belonged to. Were there incorrect assertions and other errors? Of course. But there was no denying the identity of each persons chart.
I've never been a New Age kind of guy, and have never used astrology to guide my life. But I do not dismiss it entirely. I think you'd go broke trying to go full Nancy Regan, and base investments or public policy on the stars. But in very general terms I think it's useful. For example, my 3 ex-wives all agreed that even though I was born in late September, I was born under the sign of Feces.
If it was real it would’ve been empirically proven. Instead, it’s been disproven thousands of times with a thousand different methods. So your once in a lifetime coincidental experience is not science.
@@pigggy2313yet most of India follows Vedic astrology
@@lisn7175 What does anything have to do with india ?
what is "feces"?
@@pigggy2313if it’s been disproven why would a whole culture still practice it?
It's ironic that in India we have a philosophy that ur ego doesn't matter, but still Indians follow the egocentric astrology
Yes. And the astrological study there has zero to do with ego-centric perspective whatsoever. It's pretty much the opposite.
vedic astrology does not take the person at the centre
@@TheDarshanProject thats what i thought right? in vedic astrology it is not structured as a circle, with the person in the centre
Everything in western culture has to end with being connected to a person, hence Mr. Tyson thinks astrology was for fulfilling ego. Interesting how he assumed this premise and his depth of understanding is proven very shallow
Mr Tyson is one of the most interesting men I've ever heard speak.
Been sniffing glue again?
@@mochiebellina8190Flat Earther here
Can I get the same video without her voice? That would be great
Or could they change it around and everything that he said have it in her voice and then everything she said have it in his voice???
My take on this is that there is surely much that isn’t yet known on the effects of planets, orbits, etc… because we might not have the correct tools or approach or ressources put in to understanding this but when you look at « real » astrology which takes into account time and location of birth, it shows that everyone has a unique astrological setup. Taking into account planets and cosmic bodies that take centuries to orbit the sun, others that orbit multiple times a year, their interaction between each other, etc… you can imagine that this much have at least some impact, whether in terms of energy or gravitation or something else (I’m definitely not an astronomist or astrophysicist). But it is interesting when you take « pro software » and see every transit taking effect at one given moment, and see that there are general trends during pretty precise periods and when I look at this for people around me it seems to be pretty on par on those « nothing is going right regardless of my efforts » periods and « somehow everything is just clicking ». It won’t tell you your future but it seems to describe your current « atmosphere » surrounding you. There are long phases that are super challenging and that you have to survive through with brief « positive » transits that let you breathe and the opposite at other moments. I’d really like there to be a sort of scientific explanation one day on this « ancient art ». But people relying on « Daily horoscopes » based on just a star sign is definitely not reliable and it doesn’t serve the « art » 😅
@RainbowFarmer proof that your great great great grandfather wasn't gay - NIL
@RainbowFarmer if Neil studied astrology and still thinks it's nonsense then i would respect him , and the same with u too but unfortunately that's not the scenario ,so no point in wasting time
@RainbowFarmer kids these days 😂
@RainbowFarmer when u get free time after finishing ur youtube videos make time to know about other topics
We do have a scientific explanation, astrology is bs, simple as that. What you've described is cognitive bias, where people cherry-pick evidence. Yes planets do have an effect on us gravitationally, however in physics we can use formulas to calculate the strength of forces acting on an object, the forces planets have on us are so insignificant compared to the house that you live in that it is absurd to suggest they influence us in any way.
Would love Neil try to explain the connection between the biblical Three Wise Men and Great Pyramids of Giza. He is an agent of ignorance
I can’t believe I used to think he was a brilliant man. He has absolutely no idea what he’s talking about. He acts like everything he knows didn’t come from astrologers. Astrologers, astronomers, mathematicians, philosophers, and a lot of the time doctors. were all one field at one time.
And he acts like humans went from ignorant to what we have now. There isn’t a single person alive today that could do what Ptolemy did. With all our gadgets and technology they still knew more than we do so to say they were ignorant enough to make seasonal correlations about health is f-being ridiculous.
Gadgets have made us dumber as a whole. We've been desensitized. People can't even remember numbers anymore because we don't have to remember phone numbers. People can't navigate without GPS. It's well researched that the more you depend on external tech, the less function we have internally.
@@DeyRADIANCEI was just thinking that the other day. All of these electronics have made us idiots.
Neil deGrasse Tyson an ACTOR playing an astrophysicist.
paid by BIG PHARMA to withhold the truth bout telekenesis and hallow earth theory.. … .
Neil is a typical Gemini. Likes to broadcast superficial information and claim to be intelligent without going in depth
He is not a scientist. He did not invent anything new. He is just a good broadcaster of knowledge which he gathers from books written by others
I like him but he is wrong here
Just let him finish before asking another question
she was there to ask questions what’s wrong about this he certainly didn’t seems as annoyed at her as y’all in the comment section just sayin
That's her job buddy. If I was in front of him I would want to get as many questions out before time runs out. Like
@@VlxWIZzZARDxlV yeah right, I thought this was obvious
So mars and the other stars and planets aren't constantly bombarding us with solar energy?
Right so the moon doesn’t control the tides nor the liquid in my brain ? And like he said himself depending on the time of the month, I could be different from someone else health wise.. I could’ve swore mental and psychological issues would be the result of those differences.
i fully expected to watch this video and be convinced astrology is not real. instead I got random assertions of inaccurate history and egoism by a man who did not at all explain that scientifically and then defended men buying cars
Ima Sagittarius and the stars revolve around me
God do that weirdo
Neil deGrasse Tyson just blew my mind in the field of psychology, of all things
My wife and I recently saw him give a talk in Oakland....brilliant and very engaging man with a great sense of humor. Of course, he spent some time in his youth with the great Carl Sagan, so I wouldn't expect anything less.
I love it @@blackholeentry3489
Mars doesn't need to care about you for you to feel the effects
Are you suggesting Mars plays a part in what makes up your personality and daily life? If so what's the mechanism of action for such a thing?
@@zbs8334 I don't have the exact equation but it has something to do with time space and vibration
@@mazaltawab9360 You don't really need an equation. Just an explanation of how one affects the other. I feel like saying space and time is too broad to give any merit.
Exactly
Mars is too far away and you're too small to for it to be any real effect
I don't know what to believe but I know that zodiac and astrology would explain a Creator's diagram or a creators guide on like what controls the madness and keeps parameters and that way there is a way to organize things or a system of laws to keep creating the same basic flow of your creation if there is a creator... Anyone who can elaborate or add to my sleep deprived explaining or way of it making Sense.. theorized not saying it's true just how it could be
All people who have these anti- astrology ideas most likely have never studied it. And it probably is suggested in their charts. 😁 It is what it is. We know there has to be this balance or else there would be no mysteries.
Jus Sayin'
@@missalpha_essence3926yall the devil anyways it nothing but 🧹 craft
Imagine you get to ask an astrophysicist anything and then you waste it on astrology lol
Such a shame that neither he nor you studied the subject before rendering an answer worthy of intelligent discussion.
Extremism is the same all over... be it science or religion or whatever...
They don't know what they don't know...
One day science will prove much of what is considering "meta-physics"...
Christofred Garcia-Estrada I think it's a good oportunity, a lot of people still believes that those are the same field and that astrology has scientific bases
Shervin M.- oh please, don't mix science with religion
Romarina ummm... What? And how did I do that? Lol
You can be interesting into that stuff but I don't think t's egocentric... The universe is not in any way 'about' us but it doesn't mean we can't utilize it to help us understand some stuff..?
There is no zodiac or astronomy without the sun so lets set this straight off jump. MAGNETISM is the energy that rules our universe and this dimension of material, time and space as we know it. Even down to the atom and molecular level, magnetism is the energy that allows each atom to spin and bind with other atoms to form solid structures though two atoms colliding together will naturally repell from one another creating heat as a by-product which is the law of friction and represents why we can't walk through walls or other solid structures because the wall would repell us from passing through it just as two ends of a magnet will naturally repell each other and cannot touch under natural causes. The sun or light is the life force of what we know as energy on every level and can't exist without magnetism. When you heat up a pot of cool water you will see the water begin to spin and boil. This is a great example of how magnetism works on a larger scale and on a smaller scale. As above so below. As the water boils in response to being in contact with heat so does the atom spin when in contact with heat or light. For example we know that magnetism or the gravity of the moons spin has a great influence on the ocean and its currents with colder water being more dense than the warmer waters which causes them to separate and the same is true for the wind currents and the density of air, the higher you go the thinner air becomes and the lower you go the more dense the air becomes. So in the same way the moon and sun has an influence on our bodies since we are 70% made of water. During birth our brain is very maluable and is influenced by the magnetism of the moon and sun which does have a influence on the child's personality and personal interests to some degree based on the spin position of each embryo's brain development in accordance to the spin position of the sun, moon and stars that pull on us and influence the nerve network of our brain structure and the spin patterns of our spinal fluids in our early development and becomes more prominent when the brain becomes more solid as the child ages. The nature of magnetism is to find a path of least resistance which is why planets are always round in shape including the planets orbit. In science we call this the fiboncci sequence but our ancestors knew this sequence thousands of years ago well before our time. Through out history wise men got together and maped out the heavens and converted there knowledge into stories to pass down to their kids from generation to generation which is how we got the zodiac stories but the science behind the zodiac has been almost lost but this is the truth. Eany leading scientist will agree with what I've written here.
Here's science debunking its debunking while trying to debunk:
The skeptics have already proven that astrology is real in a widely published, peer reviewed study. ua-cam.com/video/6MQJWHR9USQ/v-deo.html
I'd love to see how Mr. DeGrasse Tyson deals with this revelation.
his voice is so gooood
Why no comments? This is an AWESOME VIDEO! LOL
astrology doesen't have to be a science, it still works.
No tf it doesn't
@@burrowlife9 doesen't work you mean?
Not claiming the veracity of the subject, but this man clearly has never studied how ancient cultures actually studied or understood these things whatsoever. To say it is an ego-centric stance is absolutely absurd. I think he is talking about himself here.
He is a physicist, ofc he has considered all possible circumstances
I didn't understand that the nutritions gained in first 3 or 6 months have a life long effects on human.😑
Then you're not thinking at all mate, simple as that
Alen please explain. We are unable to think
It might...newborn children are sensitive...if you get a disease since when you were a newborn or a few months child you're likely to have that disease for a long ass time
Great to see a boxer having a calm, civil discussion about a debunked topic. He's come a long way from biting people's ears off.
🤣 can’t imagine Neil boxing
This isnt mike tyson 😂
If anything he looks looks more like Ali
I respect the science and how much data we have recorded and how we use that data as tools to navigate life. But I do find it hard to believe that planets bend matter and pull things into orbit around them and have effects on our earth and that the universe is riddle with patterns but we think we aren’t affected at all by that when everything around us is. I would say that’s egocentric. However it could be that since they navigated using the stars, when characteristic patterns were recognized in people they projected that to the stars as a way of mapping it out. Either way it’s pretty cool
Its late but i still reply to this :
The planets and stars can bend matter and pull things in their orbits because they are literaally huge their gravity is unimaginable times bigger than that of every single human being on our planet . They effect because of their gravity and we dont because of the same reason .
@A Great Man Named Lieu Climate affecting psychology has to do with vitamin exposure (such as vitamin D) and oxygen levels/atmospheric pressure
This is a fascinating, and insightful conversation❤
I don't think astrology or numerology or palm reading,necessary has any significance.I want someone to leave something I believe that up to them, it's sort of like freedom of speech...I think people could say things that aren't true but I but I reserve the right for people to say what they want to sayper se ,or speak their mind.I also think that a book like the Bible or the Quran,is very different from something like astrology or palmistry....I don't put it in the same group...I guess what I'm trying to say is if someone believes in God they have the right to believe in God...and they may have their own reasons to believe in God...and it's not science...I mean not believing in kourend per se.but I think that people should have the right to believe in it...I may not worship a cow but people have a right to worship a cow...a religion is a lot different to me than say astrology...each religion is different anyway...spiritual stores have their own meaning,I do have a right to believe then however it may influence them or affect themor Inspire them...it's something that's not supposed to be science that's why it's faith.can have its own depth and that is up to individual not to scientists...there is it in between or scientist don't know anyways...
The story of Jesus is based on astrology. Very interesting. Google it.
@@jenniaaponte1429 i ve not heard that , only the star of bethlehem
Believing in God and astrology do not have to be separate. Astrologers may want to separate themselves from Christianity's God and call God by another name, but it doesn't mean they don't believe in God.
Then there's this guy, Bill Donahue.
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As far as predicting your future, I think they really base it on the time you were born, the place you were born and your gender and they base it on the culture you grew up in and a list of probabilities. It's the zodiac accuracy of your personality that I want to understand.
I think zodiac accuracy is explained by the barnum effect
It's a cold read and confirmation bias
Usually the personality traits that are associated with your zodiac are extremely vague and kind so they do tend to be true and you can attribute them to yourself
There is actually some scientific correlation between your date of birth and temperament/personality traits. It isn't based on planets or stars but on the season in which you are born. Different temperatures and climate effects can affect us biologically, which makes much more sense on an empirical evidence level.
@@crassiewassie8354 I used to wonder about that but whenever I made a mistake and read the wrong aspect thinking it was about me I would feel off and wonder why it didn’t correspond to anything I know about myself. As soon as I correct it and read the right one it would resonate completely. Threw confirmation bias out the window for me after a few of those errors.
Me too@
So the universe is not about "us", but it literally created us? jeez
can someone please elaborate on his opinion or give me your opinion on when he said "the universe isn't about you" @4:30 like what are some tips as well please
The universe doesn't care about u, it doesn't care and nothing would change if we didn't exist,
@@rustable4165 thank you nice person
@@tracyvo3 your welcome
@@rustable4165 And why does the universe have to "care" abt us? What does that have to do with anything?
He seems to mean that people are stuck in old ways where the Earth was the center of the universe. The thing is astrology is not about the universe caring, it is simply cyclical. The point of astrology is understanding that the forces emitted by the planets in relation to Earth do affect us.
Strawman. On both sides. This isn’t the real discussion around astrology. Astrology is not egocentric because it is not about your personality. Americans have taken that and ran with it because America is egocentric. Astrology is basically a different calendar system and observation of tendencies within that calendar system. Based on the stars and lunar cycles, rather than agricultural and industrial cycles. literally going with the cycles of the earth rather than the cycles of infrastructure. I’m tired of this dichotomy of astrology versus science while astrology is continually rebranded as a Myers-Briggs type eugenic bias. it’s propaganda. But that’s America for you. Create fake hype around mysticism, wait for it to catch on, and then lump it in with actual historical knowledge and philosophy. It is all noise.
Thanks for defending men, Neil.
Astrology was used for mundane events before it became related to the natal interpretations. Also, the Universe "out there" is just a projection of your inner one.
Read Jung, Gauquelin, Cristoff, then give your opinion.
its unfortunate they didnt really get into astrology
Exactly
It’s a sham.
From a gravitational perspective everything does not influence you because of course stars dont revolve around you and also their effect on life on earth is near to zero (apart from the moon and sun). So i get where neil comes from, but, thats not the case of light. Light does ‘revolve’ around us from this perspective as if we were the center, and light doeas affect life, more that that, life was created because of the light and from it. Now going further from whats proven by science, what causes such complexity of evolution must not be the intensity of light but the information it carries at a quantum level, wich is a nature of light that cant yet be decoded (we just know wavelenghts and interpret the chemical source with an spectroscope). So doesnt matter how far away a planet is, it can have an effect on life here; by its very dim but whole light. I think its very possible.
Ever since I lost Mars Fight 2018 I had to take it up a notch
All I know is I'm a Pisces and I'm a dreamer and extremely creative and artistic and want to fix everyone and my husband is a virgo and wants to fix everything and is very neat and critical. We fit our signs to a T. Yes, some of the traits can fit everyone but not everyone is artistic and creative. And not everyone is a neat freak and critical. We tick of all the boxes for our signs. I just find it odd. I don't think it totally defines you or you should live your life by it... But it is interesting
Science tells us everything is connected and gravity effects us, we knows that. We also know plants and the sun and moon effect the earth. We are beings of the earth so why isn't it possible somewhere in our cells that make us those bodies had an affect. Just something to think about.
Because there’s no proof
Your signs are literally not your signs. The earth has shifted in axis so where the sun was when you were born was based on something 2000 years ago. Please continue your cognitive dissonance.
Study biology and you'll see everything you just said is bullshit.
@@Purplecrocodiles if you born in certain windows it’s still the same
sorry but no
Wow! This is exactly what I've been saying to Astrology people for decades. Thank you Neil for having my back!
This guy don’t believe in God. He is a smart dummy obviously
He doesn't even know what he is critiquing though.
Ahh the ego of Neil .. don’t forget the ancient people and everything he believes stands atop thousands of years of our ancestors .. and they have seen everything and did not have scientific tools and had to study the planting season and the moon phases .. and after thousands of years noticed identifying properties .. but I’m sure he’s got it .. he stands with such a .. scientific fist .. that is the first way you can tell someone is wrong .. but no .. Neil is so smart .. I’m sure he’s got it all down lmfao
Just remember in 50 years two thirds of what he believes will be proven wrong … and aim not saying thousands of years of people studying stars equate to to a certain knowledge .. but it’s so much older than he is .. and he speaks with great girth based on a science platform that is generally just as hypothetical and not tested for even vaguely as long .. when he is gone, when civilization is gone .. these things will remain
Sometimes the matrix can really get ahold of me until this guy brings me back go reality lol
Just because he calls Ms. Clarkson out on it, Mr. Tyson was born (if the internet is correct) on October 5, 1958, nine years later than the baseball and crime writer Bill James.
Kelly Clarkson gets to ask a scientists to explain something to her, and she wants to know about astrology
nothing wrong about that
I don’t get the Nile part. Can somebody explain
This is like a year too late, but basically, he's saying that we humans took astronomical coincidence and observation and made it all about us, instead of viewing it for what it is, coincidence and observation. He's saying that things like astrology are more a thing of human ego than actual science. I happen to agree with him here.
Can she shut up for a moment for godsake 🤦🏻♂️
why are y’all so annoyed in this comment section cause she is talking to him, it’s ok to be jealous but there is no reason to get offensive sir
@@louiselarc9180 lol
@@louiselarc9180 lol jealous??
@@netherwolves3412 I am not the jealous one lmao y’all are apparently bc she got to talk to your idol and not y’all
😂
Neil gives a great introduction to Science for those that have little understanding of it.
She is so annoying. She couldn’t wait to interrupt him over and over. He could have said a lot more interesting things; instead you hear her babble and repeat herself.
I respect and honor this man greatly.
It was a mutual, friendly conversation.
1:00-1:03
That about sums it up
What I want to know is why a woman’s menstrual cycle is 28 days which is the same as the moon 🌙
Exactly
a celestial body millions of hundreds of miles away cannot influence a whole female population of a certain species, hope this helps
The moon has 1 cycle per month.
Women have 4 billion per month. Why? Because none of this happens at the same time‼️
The point discussed that stood out strongest to me is when Neil Degrasse Tyson said Astrology is a way for people to dominate over one another. Seems like a scape goat answer vs a real understanding of the collective unconscious of human. Every human has the potential to dominate over another it just depends on what circumstance you’re in to illicit that response. Jungian psychologists refer that to the shadow of human consciousness. Every aspect of oneself that was discarded to survive, yet exists quietly there in a mysterious corner of the self. I do understand that there is a lot of corruption in the world and he is referencing that in a subtle and indirect way.
What do you think in response to my thoughts?
He looks like a mix of Sagittarius and Piscean with a displaced Jupiter and Mars and an exalted Mercury in his 10th house of profession!
But if our universe and everything in it is generated from one thing which is the big bang as scientists claim isn't is logical that everything is connected together in some way ? If we believe in causality then everything in the universe has an effect even if its a small one on something else,thats just my opinion
Could astrology be explained by the influence of the planets on one at birth? Comments please.
unfortunately no
No
Yes
You can't say no until you fully analyse your birth chart. Not just your zodiac sign. That's call ignorance. Do not talk about what you don't know about.🤚
@@victoriaelyce5092 they have no proof behind them
Great question for the wrong person
Wrong person to ask.
Dude that's Neil degrasse tyson, his literally the perfect person
Literally the most delusional comment I've ever read.
@@clyde1072 she's saying it's like asking an atheist about god or religion.
Scientists will always mock astrology just like how religion prohibits their people from practicing it.
This is the very why I'm very interested in astrology.
It's not for everyone, some people do have some kind of special frequency to connect to other people through astrology.
Astrology is not science but maybe that's a wrong way to say about it.
@@juliusmoreno8458 astrologists always say astrology is science and feeling a connection with someome is because of they personality, not frequency.
@@clyde1072 Then you haven't met any witch in your life.
This is a simple matter of definition, astrology is not a science in the way we chose to define the word since the claims being made are not testable! The leaps in logic are just too big. You can say that the stars send magnetic fields down to earth and that everything influences everything else through gravity, and this is the science of physics. These observations have lead to theories which represent our current, and most probable explanation of phenomenon. The leap to it influencing our personalities in predictable ways is untestable and unscientific, at least with our current tools and understanding. If astrologists really wanted to help their own cause, they would study something like astrophysics, in an attempt to bridge this gap. Unfortunately, those who try to prove their arguments using a series of disparate facts taken out of context likely also have little to no clue about how actual scientific research looks. We are supposed to be living in an enlightened world at this point, and the advent of modern science was supposed to wipe out all ideas of religion, yet people clung to it because of their ego. We live in a very exciting time when we may soon travel to other planets, synthesize new forms of life. Actual science takes time, it is difficult to learn, we often get it wrong, science is willing to admit that, but astrologists are not? Proper science is not a system of beliefs. A scientist must always be willing to alter their current understanding if a better explanation presents itself, unfortunately even in science ego might get in the way, and we do not do a perfect job. But the intention still stands.
The possible scientific basis for astrology deserves a more serious discussion.
Neil is somewhat wrong about one thing, in per civic children exclusively born in summer most of the time this was because people knew they could have lower amount of food in the winter
So does the stars have to do shit about this situation? And by stars, i don't mean the sun...i mean the billion lightyears away star
So, the Magi were narcissists? Got it.
That's the best point ive heard him make about this, the fact that believing the sun moon and stars affect us is very egocentric. but I dont know, Im one to believe it affects all living beings
It's odd that even Neil deGrasse is oddly closed off to science when it suits his biases. Moons affect tides... humans are composed of water... to say it wouldn't affect us as well, being part of the universe and essentially universes of our own... would be a bit closed-minded, no? Dismissing Mars/retrograde is similar.
Now. Using that as a prop to dwindle and say your life is a mess is a whole 'nudder thing.
The moon affect tides yes, but it doesn’t affect to that great extent the structure of your brain, your neurons and chemicals reactions that form your personality. What you eat, your genetics, the people who you talk to, the weather, the traumas, all of that have direct contribution to your personality. But the moon? How the hell do you prove it has connection scientifically? Even if you prove, how the hell do you know if it makes you ambitious, determined, pragmatic or whatever the horoscope says? None of that makes sense
No. The moon affects tides because of gravity, not because of water. Humans are composed of water, but they're also composed of other things like bone, which are also victim to the same gravity. He isn't closed off to 'suit his bias'. The scientific literature says there is no effect. This is science we are talking about. It's not about closed and open-mindedness. It's about falsifiable ideas, of which astrology is one.
Even if the moon could affect the water in a human that doesn’t have much to do with a persons actual brain and personality.
@@uncle5486 The brain is 73% water... doesn't seem like much of a reach to think it could be affected.
@@JoeyTurVic everything you said also affects the person & IS included in astrology. The problem is that scammers & pseudo astrologers are way too many that it gets difficult to find really good astrologers. A truly good astrologer would mention all the factors you said, while giving explanations. And no, pRediCtiNg eXacT sTuFf isn't what happens. Good astrologers will tell you that your birth chart is just a blue print, there's still lot of choices & uncertainty within that blue print... That's where freewill comes. Do not blame the subject because of the people who overcrowd it.
I'm a total noob but when it comes to astrology readings and such, i really align with them. but furthermore, i feel as though i align less to the readings of other signs. so like, there is something to it, in a modern sense at least surface level. it's like the causation without correlation or whatever, i get it's coming at it from the wrong light, but. i can't just simply dismiss it entirely. he made a good point about the egocentrism though. that was enlightening.
I don't think people truly understand and proper depth astrology.
Cause it fake in it evil wich craft
All religion is a form of witchcraft dumb@$$ 😂😂 @@burrowlife9
True! He doesn't even understand the meaning of it so asking him just because he studies space was ignorant on her part
4:28 this coming from the guy who regularly tweets and talks about kissing himself on the mirror
You either have an alternate point or you don’t
Please, prove his thought process on this wrong. Give us your expert opinion on why astrology is valid.
Use any material you can lay your hands on. I’ll wait.
There is very strong evidence from controlled research studies for astrology. Here is a link to the first of a series of videos that I made on the evidence for astrology: ua-cam.com/video/kFYGelO0JYk/v-deo.html You can skip to Part 4 if you wish to go directly to the strongest evidence presented in this series, which is here: ua-cam.com/video/r-nkg-w30Vk/v-deo.html
WILLIAM
: Ay, sir, I have a pretty wit.
TOUCHSTONE
: Why, thou sayst well. I do now remember a saying: “The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” The heathen philosopher, when he had a desire to eat a grape, would open his lips when he put it into his mouth, meaning thereby that grapes were made to eat and lips to open.
She's trying so hard to make the question seem less ridiculous and more plausible... Kelly, you knew the answer before asking.
What a waste of a question...
Why people who take Astrology seriously get mad when its said certain people of Astrological.signs are not compatible?
Exactly
They play their parts humbly. I applaud their human performances. He is a Libra and she is a Taurus. Both are ruled by the planet Venus which represents harmony in relationships.
U know humility has nothing to do with a group, but more an individual and growth. I really hope your not over 20 to believe in a fallacy
Degrasse debunked it, so did NASA. They said astronomy is not affiliated with astrology, so where are they getting the movements and the degrees from in the houses if science isn't backing it, according to the Museum of Natural History "Astrology is not a science, but it can be fun to think about" I don't imagine astrologers are flying up there in their spaceships to calculate the movements of the planets around the sun.
She talks too much
she’s having a conversation with him she’s supposed to be talking dumbass
My family is the perfect example of 4 people that are nothing like the descriptions given for their sign. Once I realized that (and I turned 25) i never looked at another horoscope
In other words, science hasn’t figured it out yet. But seriously he doesn’t even believe in God. so, I would have been surprised if he said he believed in astrology. 😂
He should try an astrological reading
Isaac Newton believed in astrology and studied it. Don't piss on it.
Isaac newton died about 300 years ago when we didn't know anywhere near as much about the universe. Astrology is some bullshit make believe and it's illogical to even propose otherwise
Because back then astrology was considered science, its a while ago, things change. A while ago we thought the milky way was our whole universe. We dont still defend that now cause theres proof for it that its not
Just because he studied it doesnt mean he believed it, nor does it mean its real in facts or the universe.
from the little I understand, it is NOT about making the stars fitting our ego, it has to do with where the stars were positioned in the sky at the time of your birth so in fact it is the other way around. this video is pure fail
kevin sutavee Great, you just proved astrology wrong. Because the positioning of the stars and planets is never the same, therefore monthly basis patterns like the ones from an horoscope cannot exist
Joel Vicente thank you! You just got put in your place my friend. Also theres billions of stars and planets so how is a position of a star or planet even relevant to the birth of a creature that is lightyears away from it. Astrology is hippy bullshit.
It’s a fail if you listen to it with an ear that’s turned away towards what you want to hear and not towards questioning your own believes. Nothing will make sense to you if you close your mind to other perspectives
meh... I respect you Neil deGrasse Tyson... but you are simply a naysayer here, because you claim to know about that which you clearly do not
And you do?
Lol you are claiming that someone who studied for this his whole life doesnt know and you, a youtube warrior who is still in school (not even close to astronomy level learning) claim to know shit he doesnt know😂😂😂
Patsy Stone Gauquelin had failed to find the Mars effect in populations after 1950. Attempts to validate the data and to replicate the effect had varying results. Therefore we can safely say it isn’t something with scientific merit
@@KilyanAustin😂😂
I understand where he's coming from...but you would ask a dermatologist how to plant crops. Sorry guys but he's unqualified.
Vedic astrology always work, learn it first
I would love him to have a conversation with certain Indian Gurus.. He's a brilliant scientist but has no idea what he is talking about when he talks about ego or astrology
Neil clearly owns a sports car 😅 ...He should of mentioned how the Earth's precession makes their entire chart innacurate anyway, but they didn't know that at the time this nonsense was created
May be this is very eloquence way to describe but science doesn't work like this.
This is not how it works. Please understand your birth chart is the key with astrology. This video does not scratch the surface of astrology or use any terminology. One sided, uneducated argument. Sad to see Neil carry an incomplete argument. Dang Neil, I used to like you, but it is clear you speak empty words.
God real not that
How disappointing, 5 minutes and 40 seconds of watching this and I hear no science being discussed here.
Because astrology is a pseudoscience.