I just picked up the Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi 4 iron and I am so impressed with the distance and accuracy. I'm 67 and was looking for a fairway iron, this really fits the bill! Mizuno is really making some nice clubs right now!
I have the JPX HM Pro irons now but i stopped in to hit the new Pro 245's and liked them but not as much as I thought I would. Then just for fun I hit the 243 and WOW! they feel so incredible. I am a 9 handicap and I did not think the 243's would be for me but I couldn't have been more wrong. They are beautiful and feel amazing. Those will be my next irons for sure.
I hit the 245s and the Ping Blueprint S yesterday just for fun... I may end up gaming the Pings... they are definitely about as far into the players category as I would venture, but dang they are nice, and surprisingly about as long as my P770s, with amazing feel and better spin/launch. Also surprisingly more forgiving than I would have thought. Hope to see you get your hands on some Blueprint S's! This was a great review as always, Gabe!
I remember hitting both the 223 and 225, I felt like the 223 was every bit as good as 225s, but was worried if I bought the 223s and I had a bad ball striking day I would be unhappy. Bought the 225s and they were ok, but not quite as good on the course for me. I ended up in the Srixon ZX5 MK iis with graphite shafts to ease some elbow pain I was having and I am still happy with these irons. In the hitting bay, the 223s and 225 both felt very soft.
Just was fit for 243’s with nippon 120s shafts. Going to the 7 at 33 degrees instead of 32 and following the 1 degree back for each club. Was using 20 year old MP 60’s so I am pumped to get them.
Got in 9 holes Sunday. I played with my 10 year old grandson. It was raining, so we played fast. I pulled two clubs out of my bag and left my putter in my bag and played his putter. I picked a 5 wood and 7 iron. I shot a 42 on the same 9 on Friday. Had a double bogey on 7 and 9. That’s one less than I had playing with all my clubs on Friday. Take away: going to play 9 with a half set this week. Not keep score. Have fun.
I got to play Saturday. Very rare to play golf in February in Ohio. 16 par putt attempts (all missed). The greens were horrid. But it was the first round with my t150s.
There are irons out there, new or old, that just feel so right at impact, great trajectory, turf interaction is spot on, And are complete eye candy in the bag. Can't hit them enough. I'd say Mizuno has made quite a lot of irons as described! Nice irons there!
In another video, you were looking for videographers, but something unique about you is the point of view you talk to us, which is pretty cool. Whispering, leaning into the camera. No one else does that, and I like it. I imagine it is because your camera is placed in your bag, and you get close to talking. Would you lose that if you got a videographer?
Well, you bring up a very good point and it’s one of the reasons I have hesitated to get a camera person for all of these years. The style is very personal for sure. But one thing I did not mention is that I’m actually getting some injuries from holding the camera. I’m having some elbow problems specifically. So my plan is that if I can get a camera person I will still do the walking and talking with a lighter camera. But I’ll have someone that can run to the green to see the balls land and get some other interesting shots.
Another enjoyable video, Gabe. Thank you. How would you compare the 243s and 245s with the more affordable forged Maltby irons you reviewed recently, assuming equivalent shafts? It seems the 245s have more similar design characteristics, but the lofts are closer to the 243s.
Right up there. Edels have more ways to dial in the fit, but Mizuno did a great job basically creating a combo set within a set to make the 4-7 a bit more forgiving. Edels aren’t coming out of my bag, but that said, they are 2x the price as well.
@@LetsPlayThru Thanks for the response. I didn’t realize that the Edel’s are now your gamer irons. I’m hoping to find somewhere where I can demo them. Unfortunately, it looks like I’d have to travel some distance to do that :-(
@@garymacdonald2596 I have both. Edel SMS Pro is less forgiving with more feedback. I would say single digits or better carrying 160+ with a 7 iron would be a good fit. There's zero help with them, probably in the same category as the P7MC, Titleist CB, 923 Tour, etc. 243 could fit 12 or better carrying 145 with a 7. 243 is much more forgiving with the hidden slot technology.
@@lkae4 Thanks for this response. I do like a little more forgiveness so the 243s might be better than the Edel's for me. It's just the look of the Edels and ability to shift those weights around that appeals to me. I will be able to demo the 243s where I live, just not the Edels. I currently play Callaway Apex CF16s and really like them. I've been looking for replacement irons for the last few years but haven't found anything better than those Apex. I hit my 7 iron about 160 carry but the lofts on the Apex are a little bit stronger in comparison to the Edels and the 243s.
Hey Gabe! Are we getting a 2024 driver bracket? Always fun to watch! I can't believe how good the new ping 10k is. That's what my money is on if you end up doing it!
So would you buy these over the 223s, or save the money and buy the previous model? How about the real difference between these and say the JPX 923 Forged (or even the 245/225 vs the Hot Metal Pro)? I am decent iron player, but would probably be better served with sticking with a stock shot and don't really need to do a lot of shaping (or maybe it is I just don't really have the ability to!). So I'm probably going to look at the other options. I want the most forgiving iron that I can stand to look at, and with Mizunos you can pretty much stand to look at all of them!
I hit the 7i a few weeks ago and love the feel. I like the forgiveness and want to try the 245 as well. My issue is I don’t want 245 distance but want the forgiveness in 6,5,4 irons. My 34° 7i is my 175 club. I don’t want 190! 243 is already going to push to about 180-185 ish. I guess my question is, if I am a decent ball striker but want more forgiveness in my long irons, coming from 921 tours, is the 243 enough forgiveness? On the other side, does the 245 have enough stopping power especially when I flight my shots? The big box fitters never have a whole set for demo, and outside fitters simply don’t exist where I am. I hate doing it only on a sim because I look like a 5 handicapper whereas I want to see what the real turf interaction is like. How do you pick the right club in that case? Ideally, I’d want the 245 in long irons with standard loft WITH the updated bounce, not just bent to 34° for the 7. Curious how they were built for Luke Donald because I know he likes the forgiveness, but what other modifications did they do for him to not have his ball rolling 20 ft after landing with lower spin?
You are me 😂 I think the 243 will be fine till 4iron. 245 for us will just fly I love my 921 tours but I want to get x flex shafts now plus a tad more forgiveness. 243 is that club but they are still a bit too hot. But I’ll take that for the forgiveness
@@DuoenoG i think I’m going to do that too. I want to make sure they spin enough though. I hit the 245 7i yesterday and it was going 195ish in the air. Way too far. I might get all 243 even the 4i since I can still hit my tour 4i but I may be tempted later to go with a 245 4i.
@@kentao4 atm I’ve got dg s300 bro, I have a high ball flight they are the only only ones that worked for me at the time. Although now I have more control over my ballflight I’m hoping more shaft options will open to me. Hoping to get the dg120 x100 if they work numbers wise! Yeah man I think you will be happy with the 243 4iron if you can hit your tour. Will be more forgiving and a bit more hot off the face. 245 4 iron will go too far, you won’t be getting enough spin. I personally like my 4iron to land soft just like my 7iron, minimum roll out. Then I’d use the pro fli high for more roll out type shots GL man! I’m gonna go get fitted soon, once I’ve recovered from my whiplash
@@DuoenoG I think I may have been hitting the wrong ball in the sim but spin was low on both. I’m not opposed to bending the 245 in a 4 and maybe 5i but in 7i they didn’t seem to feel any easier to hit meaning I struck both well so the difference was really just distance and spin. My other problem is I hate the shaft options this year. I don’t like chrome so a lot of the reason I chose ctapers they are brushed instead of shiny. I’d like to get black shafts to be honest lol.
Mizuno are just to high. Yiu can get a number of clubs from Pxg cheaper. Forged, custom fit , shafts etc Pxg is hard to beat now as far as golf equipment. Really is if you get the heroes pricing also
I just picked up the Mizuno Pro Fli-Hi 4 iron and I am so impressed with the distance and accuracy. I'm 67 and was looking for a fairway iron, this really fits the bill! Mizuno is really making some nice clubs right now!
Just ordered a custom set of 243s yesterday! Can't wait to get out on the course with them!
I have the JPX HM Pro irons now but i stopped in to hit the new Pro 245's and liked them but not as much as I thought I would. Then just for fun I hit the 243 and WOW! they feel so incredible. I am a 9 handicap and I did not think the 243's would be for me but I couldn't have been more wrong. They are beautiful and feel amazing. Those will be my next irons for sure.
I hit the 245s and the Ping Blueprint S yesterday just for fun... I may end up gaming the Pings... they are definitely about as far into the players category as I would venture, but dang they are nice, and surprisingly about as long as my P770s, with amazing feel and better spin/launch. Also surprisingly more forgiving than I would have thought. Hope to see you get your hands on some Blueprint S's! This was a great review as always, Gabe!
Thanks for sharing your experience. Those are on the way. Hopefully can get the review up in a couple weeks.
If you like the blueprint S make sure to try the 243. The 245 doesn’t feel as good. 243 and S are very compatible w 243 going a bit further
I remember hitting both the 223 and 225, I felt like the 223 was every bit as good as 225s, but was worried if I bought the 223s and I had a bad ball striking day I would be unhappy. Bought the 225s and they were ok, but not quite as good on the course for me. I ended up in the Srixon ZX5 MK iis with graphite shafts to ease some elbow pain I was having and I am still happy with these irons. In the hitting bay, the 223s and 225 both felt very soft.
Just was fit for 243’s with nippon 120s shafts. Going to the 7 at 33 degrees instead of 32 and following the 1 degree back for each club. Was using 20 year old MP 60’s so I am pumped to get them.
Got in 9 holes Sunday. I played with my 10 year old grandson. It was raining, so we played fast. I pulled two clubs out of my bag and left my putter in my bag and played his putter. I picked a 5 wood and 7 iron. I shot a 42 on the same 9 on Friday. Had a double bogey on 7 and 9. That’s one less than I had playing with all my clubs on Friday. Take away: going to play 9 with a half set this week. Not keep score. Have fun.
I love that 🙌
I got to play Saturday. Very rare to play golf in February in Ohio. 16 par putt attempts (all missed). The greens were horrid. But it was the first round with my t150s.
@@dobermanownerforlife3902 winter almost makes me appreciate 100° days on the golf course
There are irons out there, new or old, that just feel so right at impact, great trajectory, turf interaction is spot on, And are complete eye candy in the bag. Can't hit them enough. I'd say Mizuno has made quite a lot of irons as described! Nice irons there!
I just ordered a set of these, feel so good, and surprisingly forgiving!
Congrats 🍾 hope they serve you well
I learned how to play golf on an old set of Mizuno blades. When you catch them just right the ball coming off the face felt awesome. you knew !
Great review gabe I play the 223s and love them Cambridge uk watching ⛳️
Good one Gabe. I'm glad you reviewed these clubs.
You didn’t think I’d miss a chance to hit a Mizuno did you? 🤣🤣
Nope, love the 245's@@LetsPlayThru
@LetsPlayThru might need a longer recipe next time. All 3 same time hahahaha. More mizuno!!!!
Great review, sir! Love my 223s with the same bounce as 221s. Heard the 245s are something special.
In another video, you were looking for videographers, but something unique about you is the point of view you talk to us, which is pretty cool. Whispering, leaning into the camera. No one else does that, and I like it. I imagine it is because your camera is placed in your bag, and you get close to talking. Would you lose that if you got a videographer?
Well, you bring up a very good point and it’s one of the reasons I have hesitated to get a camera person for all of these years. The style is very personal for sure.
But one thing I did not mention is that I’m actually getting some injuries from holding the camera. I’m having some elbow problems specifically.
So my plan is that if I can get a camera person I will still do the walking and talking with a lighter camera. But I’ll have someone that can run to the green to see the balls land and get some other interesting shots.
How about a review on the new 2024 Wilson Dynapower FORGED irons just coming out? Look gorgeous! 👍
Another enjoyable video, Gabe. Thank you. How would you compare the 243s and 245s with the more affordable forged Maltby irons you reviewed recently, assuming equivalent shafts? It seems the 245s have more similar design characteristics, but the lofts are closer to the 243s.
Beautiful irons. You were hitting them really good on the day. How would you compare the 243s to the Edel SMS Pros you really loved a few months back?
Right up there. Edels have more ways to dial in the fit, but Mizuno did a great job basically creating a combo set within a set to make the 4-7 a bit more forgiving.
Edels aren’t coming out of my bag, but that said, they are 2x the price as well.
@@LetsPlayThru Thanks for the response. I didn’t realize that the Edel’s are now your gamer irons. I’m hoping to find somewhere where I can demo them. Unfortunately, it looks like I’d have to travel some distance to do that :-(
Gabe…I was wondering where the Edel irons were in the packing order so to speak.
Did you get all Pro or did you go Combo set? Cheers.
@@garymacdonald2596 I have both. Edel SMS Pro is less forgiving with more feedback. I would say single digits or better carrying 160+ with a 7 iron would be a good fit. There's zero help with them, probably in the same category as the P7MC, Titleist CB, 923 Tour, etc. 243 could fit 12 or better carrying 145 with a 7. 243 is much more forgiving with the hidden slot technology.
@@lkae4 Thanks for this response. I do like a little more forgiveness so the 243s might be better than the Edel's for me. It's just the look of the Edels and ability to shift those weights around that appeals to me. I will be able to demo the 243s where I live, just not the Edels. I currently play Callaway Apex CF16s and really like them. I've been looking for replacement irons for the last few years but haven't found anything better than those Apex. I hit my 7 iron about 160 carry but the lofts on the Apex are a little bit stronger in comparison to the Edels and the 243s.
Nice minimalist look for a cavity back.
Mizuno always crushes it with the aesthetics. VERY tough to beat!
Looks so close to my MP25's ive been gamimg since 2016, same marketing in 4-7 iron.
Hey Gabe! Are we getting a 2024 driver bracket? Always fun to watch! I can't believe how good the new ping 10k is. That's what my money is on if you end up doing it!
So if you were to combo set these. What long irons would you choose for both distance and forgiveness. The 245s or 923HM pros.
So would you buy these over the 223s, or save the money and buy the previous model? How about the real difference between these and say the JPX 923 Forged (or even the 245/225 vs the Hot Metal Pro)? I am decent iron player, but would probably be better served with sticking with a stock shot and don't really need to do a lot of shaping (or maybe it is I just don't really have the ability to!). So I'm probably going to look at the other options. I want the most forgiving iron that I can stand to look at, and with Mizunos you can pretty much stand to look at all of them!
Thanks for the review. I have an 8 iron on order. Wanted to give them a try.. Cheer's
Ordering one club…That’s a really smart way to do it. Let us know what you think.
At $200 a club with MMT 105s no upcharge the 243 is the best deal going right now.
I hit the 7i a few weeks ago and love the feel. I like the forgiveness and want to try the 245 as well.
My issue is I don’t want 245 distance but want the forgiveness in 6,5,4 irons. My 34° 7i is my 175 club. I don’t want 190! 243 is already going to push to about 180-185 ish.
I guess my question is, if I am a decent ball striker but want more forgiveness in my long irons, coming from 921 tours, is the 243 enough forgiveness? On the other side, does the 245 have enough stopping power especially when I flight my shots?
The big box fitters never have a whole set for demo, and outside fitters simply don’t exist where I am. I hate doing it only on a sim because I look like a 5 handicapper whereas I want to see what the real turf interaction is like. How do you pick the right club in that case?
Ideally, I’d want the 245 in long irons with standard loft WITH the updated bounce, not just bent to 34° for the 7.
Curious how they were built for Luke Donald because I know he likes the forgiveness, but what other modifications did they do for him to not have his ball rolling 20 ft after landing with lower spin?
You are me 😂 I think the 243 will be fine till 4iron. 245 for us will just fly
I love my 921 tours but I want to get x flex shafts now plus a tad more forgiveness. 243 is that club but they are still a bit too hot. But I’ll take that for the forgiveness
@@DuoenoG i think I’m going to do that too. I want to make sure they spin enough though. I hit the 245 7i yesterday and it was going 195ish in the air. Way too far. I might get all 243 even the 4i since I can still hit my tour 4i but I may be tempted later to go with a 245 4i.
@@DuoenoG what shafts are you playing now? I’ve got the ctaper 120 stiff
@@kentao4 atm I’ve got dg s300 bro, I have a high ball flight they are the only only ones that worked for me at the time. Although now I have more control over my ballflight I’m hoping more shaft options will open to me. Hoping to get the dg120 x100 if they work numbers wise!
Yeah man I think you will be happy with the 243 4iron if you can hit your tour. Will be more forgiving and a bit more hot off the face. 245 4 iron will go too far, you won’t be getting enough spin. I personally like my 4iron to land soft just like my 7iron, minimum roll out. Then I’d use the pro fli high for more roll out type shots
GL man! I’m gonna go get fitted soon, once I’ve recovered from my whiplash
@@DuoenoG I think I may have been hitting the wrong ball in the sim but spin was low on both.
I’m not opposed to bending the 245 in a 4 and maybe 5i but in 7i they didn’t seem to feel any easier to hit meaning I struck both well so the difference was really just distance and spin.
My other problem is I hate the shaft options this year. I don’t like chrome so a lot of the reason I chose ctapers they are brushed instead of shiny. I’d like to get black shafts to be honest lol.
Good review as always Gabe. Can't beat a Mizuno.
Thanks 🙏
Great review.
Glad you enjoyed it
I love my 923 hot metals. Mizuno is by favorite irons.
Those are very sweet too 🙌
I'm still playing with my 921 hot metal irons and they're easily the best irons I've used.
Mizuno has been nailing it lately. Those are beauties for sure.
Are they better then your edels
The 243 is EVEN BETTER and easier to hit than the 223's.
I hit those and the 245s during my fitting. They are too heavy and don't like how they hit.
Did you try any other shafts out of curiosity?
@@LetsPlayThru yes. I just didn't like them. Does not mean others won't like them. Just not for me. The QI irons way outperformed all of them for me.
Can we get a review of the ball you are playing and what it is. For me the ball is more important than the clubs. Only thing you use on every shot.
Every year i get new irons. You would be stupid not to, the new technology will make you shoot lower scores, hitting straighter and further.
Mizuno are just to high. Yiu can get a number of clubs from Pxg cheaper. Forged, custom fit , shafts etc Pxg is hard to beat now as far as golf equipment. Really is if you get the heroes pricing also
You play a super stiff shaft. You have to swing that shaft hard to get it optimal.
Getting some “Pro” irons is the ONLY way I can have pro associated with me!! lol.
🤣🤣🤣
A Mere Mortal playing off the Blues??!! Those Irons are so good that they must be in your Bag - and you should be restricted to the Tips!
Too expensive! There are cheaper options! Thanks Gabe
Can we get a Mizuno Iron bracket? Let's do the full range… more excuses for you to hit Mizunos 😂😂😂
It's just another iron. Cracks me up the upper class hacks in this world keep buying the same clubs year after year.
Cracks me up how many republicans play Japanese Made clubs no pun indeed
How does one say, maybe some cardio is in order for you.