@@CoryLancasterYTive had the 900 and 921 tours and love them. It’s just the long irons I struggle with when I’m not swinging as well but I wouldn’t say they’re razor thin. Def easier to hit than blades. It’s just interesting I never see a comparison with the tours vs the 223/243. I also bought the 921 before the 223 came out.
the Mizuno Pro and JPX lines "leap frog" each other in terms of forgiveness if I remember correctly. 241 > JPX Tour > 243 > JPX forged > 245 > other JPX clubs. JPX forged and 245 are very similar clubs, main difference is 245 is hollow body
@@LegacyAirTechthanks! I love the tours but I’m only confident from 7i thru p. I struggle on off days with the long irons. Prob going to switch to the 243
man such a great comp demo, thanks for your detail.... and i do appreciate you being outside on grass rather than a monitor in studio.... don't get me wrong, they have a lot to offer but this is money....
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I enjoy the comparison videos especially from better players - whether that be similar clubs across different brands or even like you mentioned briefly in this video comparing a blade to a players club with more forgiveness - maybe see how many greens you hit with a T100 vs your blades or even vs i230? Also, like this video and several before it, doing reviews on new products or new product families is always appreciated. Some ideas for the future: maybe create some kind of power ranking system for club sub-categories with a point system (forgiveness, feel, turf interaction, etc. as metrics). Have a category for blades (P7MB type), player cavity backs (P7MC type), player forgiveness (P770 type), player distance (P790 type), etc. You could potentially track this over the years and update a spreadsheet for ranking these clubs which could also track improvements over time, occasionally coming back to re-test the previous years' kings of the sub-category to see how the new stuff stacks up. Also, if you have fitting experience, educating people on shaft profiles, weights, stiffness, etc can be interesting.
@@brentjones6019 Fantastic response Brent and some great ideas here!! I’m going to work through this and see what I can come up with in terms of content. Thanks for the help/support!
Didn't try the 241 but the 243 short irons are very stout chunks of solid forged goodness. And the long irons feel the same. What an achievement by Mizuno.
Nice video! I ordered 6-PW in the 241. I'm a 4 hcp and honestly these are way too much club for me, but I just couldn't resist a Christmas present to myself. They're simply the nicest Mizuno I've ever seen. I have my JPX Forged for when I return to my senses. Probably can play 8-PW if I tweak the lofts a bit.
Just ordered a set of 245’s. I’m 55 and have an 80 mph swing speed with a 7 iron. I gained 15 yards from my PING I230’s. Softer feel, considerably longer and more forgiving. Just incredible!!! Excellent review….
Appreciate the support Kevin! 245's are a really solid iron and probably one of my favorite hollow body designs of the last few years. Which shafts are you gaming in your 245's?
@@golfbike Gapping would likely be no issue. Only thing that concerns me is getting the offset and bounce to stay progressive. It’s likely not a big deal, but I tend to me OCD about that stuff and would personally want to test it before making a decision.
Thanks for the video. I just bought and waiting on the 241's 4-PW. It was an easy switch from my JPX 923 tour irons. May you hit nothing but fairways and greens.
Thanks as always Scott! WITB is coming soon both on here and Instagram, so you'll see what I am currently gaming shortly! That said, I'm considering putting the 241's in a head to head test vs. the Srixon Z-Forged II here on UA-cam... Is that a video you'd like to see?
I absolutely think it's a possibility. That said, and as you mentioned, the HMP is stronger lofted than the 245 so you may lose a hair of distance; But on the contrary, you will likely pick up some height which imo is worth the tradeoff. In terms of the forgiveness, it really just depends on how comfortable you are with finding the center of the face. You can definitely get away with some heel and toe strikes with the 245's, but if you really struggle to find center decently often then the HMP may be a better option.
Very interesting, thanks. Would you say the Pro 243 is for a much better golfer than the Pro 245? I’m a 16 handicap overall, but my iron striking is a strong part of my game - maybe 10-12 handicap equivalent (my short game is atrocious). I’m very tempted by the Pro 245, but what worries me is the strong lofts. My MX-20 7-iron is 33 degrees. I don’t really want to go weakening the lofts of new clubs.
I would say, specifically in the long clubs, the 245 just allows you to have a wider shot pattern across the face and get away with it (in terms of land angle/carry). A good idea for you could be to blend the 243 and 245, (I was considering this also). That said, I would definitely test both before making any decisions; Additionally, don’t be scared of bending weak to hit the launch/spin numbers that are optimal for your game. This is very common practice, especially for a high-end forging like Mizuno.
@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thanks very much for the advice! I will indeed try both, and I will also consider getting the lofts adjusted. After 20 years, it's high time to replace my trusty MX-20s!
Managed to get a brand new set of 241’s in my custom setup (2 degrees up, 1/2” longer, kbs tour shaft in stiff.. and even with my z-grip) for half price at a local shop, so I couldn’t resist grabbing them. I already own a set of MP-5’s so I knew what I would be getting into by getting the blades! I’m a 15 hcp (13 was my lowest in the summer, but I also count rounds in the winter here towards my hcp, so every year the hcp goes up by a few points due to that)… am I good enough to play them? I would say “not when it counts”, so for competitions and qualifying rounds I will still use my trusty 921’s (or maybe look into the 243 or 245’s or their successors as a replacement), but just as with the MP-5’s, I will use the 241 for “fun rounds” in the summer, when it doesn’t matter when I have a mishit here or there. They’re also amazing for practising on the range. You really learn to get more consistent with your ball-striking when using those, as you will feel each mishit in your fingers (especially now in the winter ;)) Are blades difficult to play? Well, they’re not easy, but for anyone with a mid-handicap I would say they’re not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, and as I said, they’re a great training tool to improve!
Enjoyed your video and honest analysis. Currently play JPX 919 Tour and would like to know how forgiveness compares to the 243. The turf interaction tend to drag a little on my existing clubs depending on fairway conditions. Looking for improvements and considering these along with Titleist T150, so appreciate any feedback.
I don’t find the 919 Tours all that great thru the turf. Actually they get pretty stuck in the PW and short irons. I still have sets of MP 33 and 69’s almost new. The MP 33 is an awesome iron!
Also in the bag are 5-PW Miura TC 201’s! So, that says a lot for the MP 241’s that I think are fantastic! There is a pre worn leading edge in the TC 201’s. They don’t get stuck. The old JPX 900 had the same leading edge.
11 Hcap age 54 , just got my 245 0.5” longer , 1 degree weak , 1 degree upright and they are unbelievable compared to my MP 20 SEL nice to see Mizuno doing the lefty set this year , tried 241 not a good enough ball striker for these irons and the 243 lack feedback
Your videos and reviews are great. I Just saw this review on the 245’s, how would you compare these to the Srixon ZX5 MK ll irons turf interaction and forgiveness and ball spin numbers. Thanks!!! Ted Vass
Playing is a heavy NW Pacific wind today. 145 and killed a 6 iron. Short! Par 3, 155. Mizuno Mp 18 4 iron. Barely got there. Wondering if a 245 4 and 5 iron and 241’s 6-PW. Tight fairway fescue over 100 Ft of sand. 132 years old! What do you all think or recommend??
Those sound like some crazy conditions! I actually just made a new video where I build out a Mizuno 240/JPX combo set, so definitely recommend checking it out! Cool idea could be adding a 3 iron into the rotation to keep under the wind. Let me know what you think of the video and hopefully it helps answer that question 🙌
Thanks for the comment John! New video drops tomorrow where I build out my ultimate combo iron set using the ENTIRE current Mizuno players irons lineup, so stay tuned for it!! That said, I think I'm going to film a Mizuno Pro 241 vs. Srixon Z-Forged II Blade Battle video! Is this something you'd like to see?
Really depends what you need! Both are great heads but they perform differently. 241 requires precise control over low point and strike point but imo offers the most consistency and control. 245 doesn't require as much precision, but on the contrary doesn't offer quite as much ability to manipulate curve/ball flight. The 243 is nice because it pretty much sits right in the middle, have you had a chance to test those?
Great review I’m a 16 handicapper senior playing Stealth 2 irons but want more feel, maintain distance and forgiveness would normally go for JPX923 Or the Pro. So far like the T350 but the 345 looks fabulous. Would I be good enough for it though? Greetings from 🇬🇧
Stuck between buying Mizuno Pro 241 and Titleist T100, I know they’re a little different overall but any feedback from someone’s who’s hit both? Currently gaming Mp18, fit into KBS c taper 130x
Think it just really depends what you are looking for. 241’s will pretty simply be more demanding in terms of ball striking compared to the T100’s. Additionally the height on good strikes but also mis-hits will be a factor to consider, with T100’s likely to be a bit higher launching. Lastly, T100 plays with very low bounce in my experience, whereas the 241 sits in that more mid-bounce category. That said, the T100 is a wider soled club vs a narrower sole in 241. I personally prefer the 241 in the short clubs, but appreciate the forgiveness of something like a T100 styled club later in the set.
I just picked up the 223s. The 6 iron is tough for me to hit. I switched to graphite shafts this year. Not the fastest swing speed. Previously played the 923 Hot metals. Any suggestions on a 6 iron. Should I consider the 245? Or go back to the hot metal family for height and forgiveness?
I absolutely think you could combo the 243/245's. In fact I was thinking about doing it myself because, on paper, it sound like the ideal blend of distance and control. From my understanding LD plays his 245's bent a few degrees weak to get the launch and spin in a window closer to where he was with the 221's. That said, it really is shocking to me he is playing the 245's thru his full set and not combo'ing, especially considering he came from blades previously. My initial thought is that the X100 iron shaft's are something he doesn't want to switch; And as he's gotten older/lost some speed, rather than going to a lighter shaft he felt it would be better to move to a higher launching head.
Great review...how would you compare the forgiveness of the 4/5 iron of the 243 vs. the 245? Are the 245's significantly more forgiving in those irons? Would a lower handicap but average ball striker benefit from doing a combo set 245 in the long irons or do you feel like someone like this could go full set 243 because of the forgiveness improvement?
I would definitely consider the 245 more forgiving than the 243. That said, I think if you are comfortable with a smaller shape and find the center more than the heel/toe, then the 243 is very playable in the long clubs. To me it becomes more so a question of height and distance control on the mis-hit's With the 245 I think (at the same loft) it is gives you more height and distance than the 243 on a mis-hit which is really important in your longer clubs imo. Me personally, I was considering a 245/243 combo set with 245 in the 4/5i and 243 6-PW all bent 1-2* weak. This would give me a hair of help in the longer clubs and then more control in the shorter ones which, on paper, sounds like a darn near perfect set. I'm comfortable with my ball-striking, but finding the center is always difficult with a 4/5 iron in a smaller head and I think the 245 just offers a bit more help which I do really like.
Just get a FliHi 4i, forgiveness is highly overrated except at the far ends of the spectrum. Speed and desired flight should drive iron selection mostly!
@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thanks for the response, that’s what I currently play in 223/225 and will probably do the same with the new set. Appreciate the great content!
I used to game the jpx 900 hot metals. Now I’m gaming the ping i210s. Which Mizuno models are the most comparable to the ping i210s and would you recommend them over the i210s? Are the t200s the comparable line for Titleist?
Would -1 loft mess with bounce and offset? Would be my concern I have pretty high club speed mid/high 90s with 7i could use some more loft but I still create 68-7k spin and 130ft high balls standard
Delofting by one degree would increase offset and decrease bounce a bit. Given that the increased bounce is a big selling point of this new line that would be an unfortunate consequence.
I wish manufacturers would literally eliminate offset to the point of I truly wish to look down on a blade with onset: playing a club that makes you feel like you have to address the ball differently, like an iron with heavy offset greater than 2-3mm, than you normally would, is a real challenge for me.
Guys I have 0317T and 225’s and the 225’s are much much more forgiving and feel softer/muted with strikes overall. The 0317T when hit right on the sweet spot nothing feels like it. So I’m guessing the 245’s vs 0317T be similar to what I described above.
Thanks for the kind words Scott! I would say they are actually relatively comparable overall, just in slightly different packages. The 245 plays with a bit less bounce than the 0317T's, which is something to consider. Feel wise, it's close but I think I would give the edge to the 0317T's. They just don't feel hollow to me at all, which is really impressive for a players distance iron. Forgiveness wise, I think I would give the edge to the 245's, especially in the longer clubs. Looks wise, I prefer the 0317T's in the shorter clubs, but the slightly thicker look of the 245's in the longer clubs. Overall it's genuinely quite close and just depends what you are looking for. I would really recommend testing both before making a decision.
iBlades are a class iron! The new Blueprint S definitely has my attention though as a potential successor… Have you tested/considered the new BPS at all?
No doubting the feel and performance but I'm not in love with the shape and address position view of the 241's. Wilson Staff model way better shape at address and i reckon they'll beat these hands down at a more competitive value for money price point. Lets face it. Golf equipment at this level is very expensive.
hit the 245's and are a touch more forgiving than the 225's on thin shots and not as long. everything else is the same. Also, a little higher ball flight. As a high ball, high spin player the 225's are better for me. If there were no 225's, I would buy the 245's.
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I just picked up the 223s. The 6 iron is tough for me to hit. I switched to graphite shafts this year. Not the fastest swing speed. Previously played the 923 Hot metals. Any suggestions on a 6 iron. Should I consider the 245? Or go back to the hot metal family for height and forgiveness? My miss is a thin shot.
My 245s have arrived and I will be picking them up in a few days…
First time I get fitted
Can’t hide my excitement to go and see the difference
I'm getting mine tomorrow, crazy excited!
Thank you for being the first person to actually say the 243 is more forgiving than the 923 tour! That’s ALL I needed to know lol.
Happy to help!
Tour is razor thin, made for pros, no pros play the 2x3s. Tour was originally made for Koepka.
@@CoryLancasterYTive had the 900 and 921 tours and love them. It’s just the long irons I struggle with when I’m not swinging as well but I wouldn’t say they’re razor thin. Def easier to hit than blades. It’s just interesting I never see a comparison with the tours vs the 223/243. I also bought the 921 before the 223 came out.
the Mizuno Pro and JPX lines "leap frog" each other in terms of forgiveness if I remember correctly. 241 > JPX Tour > 243 > JPX forged > 245 > other JPX clubs. JPX forged and 245 are very similar clubs, main difference is 245 is hollow body
@@LegacyAirTechthanks! I love the tours but I’m only confident from 7i thru p. I struggle on off days with the long irons. Prob going to switch to the 243
man such a great comp demo, thanks for your detail.... and i do appreciate you being outside on grass rather than a monitor in studio.... don't get me wrong, they have a lot to offer but this is money....
Thanks for the kind words! Being outside is a plus for sure and imo super important when testing clubs.
What irons are you currently gaming?
The quality of information in your videos along with your delivery is highly underrated. Subbed and looking forward to watching the channel grow!
Thanks much Brent!
Is there anything specific you’d like to see in terms of testing/reviews for 2024?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I enjoy the comparison videos especially from better players - whether that be similar clubs across different brands or even like you mentioned briefly in this video comparing a blade to a players club with more forgiveness - maybe see how many greens you hit with a T100 vs your blades or even vs i230? Also, like this video and several before it, doing reviews on new products or new product families is always appreciated. Some ideas for the future: maybe create some kind of power ranking system for club sub-categories with a point system (forgiveness, feel, turf interaction, etc. as metrics). Have a category for blades (P7MB type), player cavity backs (P7MC type), player forgiveness (P770 type), player distance (P790 type), etc. You could potentially track this over the years and update a spreadsheet for ranking these clubs which could also track improvements over time, occasionally coming back to re-test the previous years' kings of the sub-category to see how the new stuff stacks up. Also, if you have fitting experience, educating people on shaft profiles, weights, stiffness, etc can be interesting.
@@brentjones6019 Fantastic response Brent and some great ideas here!!
I’m going to work through this and see what I can come up with in terms of content. Thanks for the help/support!
I ordered the 243s. I found them too have the feel of the 241 and the performance of the 245.
243'a are such a solid iron. I agree, feel + forgiveness is exactly the way I'd describe them. All you can really ask for imo!
Didn't try the 241 but the 243 short irons are very stout chunks of solid forged goodness. And the long irons feel the same. What an achievement by Mizuno.
Well Done!!! ❤ I'm now on the lookout for lefty 245's
Nice video! I ordered 6-PW in the 241. I'm a 4 hcp and honestly these are way too much club for me, but I just couldn't resist a Christmas present to myself. They're simply the nicest Mizuno I've ever seen. I have my JPX Forged for when I return to my senses. Probably can play 8-PW if I tweak the lofts a bit.
Thanks Daniel!
Hey I mean at some point you only live once and when you hit those 241's out of the center, it makes it all worth while imo 🙌
Oh yeah? Have you seen the Mizuno Pro Masters Edition? Brings a tear just thinking about them.
@@webbdelasteve True! Those are something special, for sure.
Just ordered a set of 245’s. I’m 55 and have an 80 mph swing speed with a 7 iron. I gained 15 yards from my PING I230’s. Softer feel, considerably longer and more forgiving. Just incredible!!! Excellent review….
Appreciate the support Kevin!
245's are a really solid iron and probably one of my favorite hollow body designs of the last few years.
Which shafts are you gaming in your 245's?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I was custom fit into the modus 105 regular flex.
Modus 105 is a fantastic product, Nippon makes great stuff!
Kevin , you still enjoying 245? I'm currently in i230s and miss forged
@@Foregrlz go with the Mizuno 245 irons. The Pings are good. The Mizuno’s are better
Great review.... I'm a 59 year old 7 handicap and just got a set of 245 Irons. BTW you have a fantastic swing !
how are you liking them? im a 12 handicap and im stuck between the 245s and the 241s
Excellent review. Good call on 243’s -1* to soften loft and offset.
Appreciate the kind words! Hoping I can test the 243's bent weak here soon, absolutely could be💰
4-5-6(?) in 243 bent soft and 241’s 7-8-9-p
Gapping should/could be playable.
@@golfbike Gapping would likely be no issue. Only thing that concerns me is getting the offset and bounce to stay progressive.
It’s likely not a big deal, but I tend to me OCD about that stuff and would personally want to test it before making a decision.
Happy to see this review outside and on grass.
@@golfbike Glad you enjoyed! More to come 👍
Ayyyy tracers and sick review
Really interested in a 245 utility build, we’ll see 👀
Yessir, about time tracers were added! 245 UT could be a sneaky weapon for sure 🤧
Go with Fli-Hi instead!
@@CoryLancasterYT 👀
Great comparison vid mate, nice work!
You are the best review guy!
Great job!
Sweet shots champ! ❤
Thanks for the video. I just bought and waiting on the 241's 4-PW. It was an easy switch from my JPX 923 tour irons. May you hit nothing but fairways and greens.
Love it! Thanks David!
I have a set of 919 tours. Nice irons. But they are not 241’s.
Tried the 923 Toura nice but the offset was a little too much for me.
I like your vids mate!
Thanks much! Appreciate the support 🙌
great review of the new 24 series thanks
Appreciate it!
The AJGA towel. :). 221 player here, considering these because I like the new bounce.
Excellent review. Good job.
Excellent Review!
Great review 👍🏼
Again, this video is tremendous. You are completely striping your ball shots. Are these clubs in your bag now and if not why not? Great video.
Thanks as always Scott! WITB is coming soon both on here and Instagram, so you'll see what I am currently gaming shortly!
That said, I'm considering putting the 241's in a head to head test vs. the Srixon Z-Forged II here on UA-cam...
Is that a video you'd like to see?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie I’ll be your caddy…
Do you think I could look at 245 instead of a JPX HMP? I like the look and prefer the feel but don’t want to lose out on distance and forgiveness
I absolutely think it's a possibility. That said, and as you mentioned, the HMP is stronger lofted than the 245 so you may lose a hair of distance; But on the contrary, you will likely pick up some height which imo is worth the tradeoff.
In terms of the forgiveness, it really just depends on how comfortable you are with finding the center of the face. You can definitely get away with some heel and toe strikes with the 245's, but if you really struggle to find center decently often then the HMP may be a better option.
They are incredible
Just ordered the 245’s super stoked bending them slightly weaker but going from p790 they are better for my spin and height on the long irons
Love that setup!
@@TheEquipmentJunkie honestly doing it also for a gapping session to match my new vokeys at 50 54 58
@@Fitter4life Now we’re talking! So important, and very overlooked, to get everything dialed in gapping wise.
I love the 243's feel they get overlooked for the looks of the 245, I liked the weaker lofts of the 243 though.
243's are Cash! I love the little bit of help they offer in the longer clubs without being a hollow body design.
Very interesting, thanks. Would you say the Pro 243 is for a much better golfer than the Pro 245? I’m a 16 handicap overall, but my iron striking is a strong part of my game - maybe 10-12 handicap equivalent (my short game is atrocious). I’m very tempted by the Pro 245, but what worries me is the strong lofts. My MX-20 7-iron is 33 degrees. I don’t really want to go weakening the lofts of new clubs.
I would say, specifically in the long clubs, the 245 just allows you to have a wider shot pattern across the face and get away with it (in terms of land angle/carry). A good idea for you could be to blend the 243 and 245, (I was considering this also).
That said, I would definitely test both before making any decisions; Additionally, don’t be scared of bending weak to hit the launch/spin numbers that are optimal for your game. This is very common practice, especially for a high-end forging like Mizuno.
@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thanks very much for the advice! I will indeed try both, and I will also consider getting the lofts adjusted. After 20 years, it's high time to replace my trusty MX-20s!
Managed to get a brand new set of 241’s in my custom setup (2 degrees up, 1/2” longer, kbs tour shaft in stiff.. and even with my z-grip) for half price at a local shop, so I couldn’t resist grabbing them. I already own a set of MP-5’s so I knew what I would be getting into by getting the blades!
I’m a 15 hcp (13 was my lowest in the summer, but I also count rounds in the winter here towards my hcp, so every year the hcp goes up by a few points due to that)… am I good enough to play them? I would say “not when it counts”, so for competitions and qualifying rounds I will still use my trusty 921’s (or maybe look into the 243 or 245’s or their successors as a replacement), but just as with the MP-5’s, I will use the 241 for “fun rounds” in the summer, when it doesn’t matter when I have a mishit here or there. They’re also amazing for practising on the range. You really learn to get more consistent with your ball-striking when using those, as you will feel each mishit in your fingers (especially now in the winter ;))
Are blades difficult to play? Well, they’re not easy, but for anyone with a mid-handicap I would say they’re not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, and as I said, they’re a great training tool to improve!
Enjoyed your video and honest analysis. Currently play JPX 919 Tour and would like to know how forgiveness compares to the 243. The turf interaction tend to drag a little on my existing clubs depending on fairway conditions. Looking for improvements and considering these along with Titleist T150, so appreciate any feedback.
I don’t find the 919 Tours all that great thru the turf. Actually they get pretty stuck in the PW and short irons.
I still have sets of MP 33 and 69’s almost new.
The MP 33 is an awesome iron!
Also in the bag are 5-PW Miura TC 201’s!
So, that says a lot for the MP 241’s that I think are fantastic!
There is a pre worn leading edge in the TC 201’s. They don’t get stuck. The old JPX 900 had the same leading edge.
11 Hcap age 54 , just got my 245 0.5” longer , 1 degree weak , 1 degree upright and they are unbelievable compared to my MP 20 SEL nice to see Mizuno doing the lefty set this year , tried 241 not a good enough ball striker for these irons and the 243 lack feedback
Your videos and reviews are great. I Just saw this review on the 245’s, how would you compare these to the Srixon ZX5 MK ll irons turf interaction and forgiveness and ball spin numbers.
Thanks!!!
Ted Vass
Playing is a heavy NW Pacific wind today. 145 and killed a 6 iron. Short!
Par 3, 155. Mizuno Mp 18 4 iron. Barely got there.
Wondering if a 245 4 and 5 iron and 241’s 6-PW. Tight fairway fescue over 100 Ft of sand. 132 years old!
What do you all think or recommend??
Those sound like some crazy conditions!
I actually just made a new video where I build out a Mizuno 240/JPX combo set, so definitely recommend checking it out!
Cool idea could be adding a 3 iron into the rotation to keep under the wind.
Let me know what you think of the video and hopefully it helps answer that question 🙌
The MP 5 was the best looking golf iron ever produced by anybody. If Mizuno reintroduced it there would be a demand for it.
Would you consider the 245's a good option for a 12 HC?
You hit the 241’s the best!
Thinner sole and bounce. You can hear the difference.
Thanks for the comment John!
New video drops tomorrow where I build out my ultimate combo iron set using the ENTIRE current Mizuno players irons lineup, so stay tuned for it!!
That said, I think I'm going to film a Mizuno Pro 241 vs. Srixon Z-Forged II Blade Battle video!
Is this something you'd like to see?
Yes! I just saw those the other day and they look like a great and possibly more forgiving blade.
Looking forward to it!!
Good vid!!!
How do the 241's look and feel compared to the JPX tour 921/3. Love my 921 tours, even the r iton. But i loose some gapping in 4 and 5 irons.
Scratch golfer and I’m going with the 245s. Should I switch to 241?
Really depends what you need! Both are great heads but they perform differently.
241 requires precise control over low point and strike point but imo offers the most consistency and control.
245 doesn't require as much precision, but on the contrary doesn't offer quite as much ability to manipulate curve/ball flight.
The 243 is nice because it pretty much sits right in the middle, have you had a chance to test those?
Is there anyway you can remember the PXG 0317 Tour enough to compare to the 245? Those both look so great to me!
Great review I’m a 16 handicapper senior playing Stealth 2 irons but want more feel, maintain distance and forgiveness would normally go for JPX923 Or the Pro. So far like the T350 but the 345 looks fabulous. Would I be good enough for it though? Greetings from 🇬🇧
We seniors need spin to get and keep the ball elevated.
Shafts can have a minor effect on trajectory. But it still helps some.
Stuck between buying Mizuno Pro 241 and Titleist T100, I know they’re a little different overall but any feedback from someone’s who’s hit both? Currently gaming Mp18, fit into KBS c taper 130x
Think it just really depends what you are looking for.
241’s will pretty simply be more demanding in terms of ball striking compared to the T100’s.
Additionally the height on good strikes but also mis-hits will be a factor to consider, with T100’s likely to be a bit higher launching.
Lastly, T100 plays with very low bounce in my experience, whereas the 241 sits in that more mid-bounce category. That said, the T100 is a wider soled club vs a narrower sole in 241.
I personally prefer the 241 in the short clubs, but appreciate the forgiveness of something like a T100 styled club later in the set.
@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thank you!
Nice 👍🏻
I just picked up the 223s. The 6 iron is tough for me to hit. I switched to graphite shafts this year. Not the fastest swing speed. Previously played the 923 Hot metals. Any suggestions on a 6 iron. Should I consider the 245? Or go back to the hot metal family for height and forgiveness?
Cool review, maybe I didn’t hear it but what shafts where on them ? Especially the 243’s
You think you could combo 245 and 243 or even” if Luke Donald plays all 245 that will do me “?
I absolutely think you could combo the 243/245's. In fact I was thinking about doing it myself because, on paper, it sound like the ideal blend of distance and control.
From my understanding LD plays his 245's bent a few degrees weak to get the launch and spin in a window closer to where he was with the 221's.
That said, it really is shocking to me he is playing the 245's thru his full set and not combo'ing, especially considering he came from blades previously.
My initial thought is that the X100 iron shaft's are something he doesn't want to switch; And as he's gotten older/lost some speed, rather than going to a lighter shaft he felt it would be better to move to a higher launching head.
@@TheEquipmentJunkie awesome thank you
Great review...how would you compare the forgiveness of the 4/5 iron of the 243 vs. the 245? Are the 245's significantly more forgiving in those irons? Would a lower handicap but average ball striker benefit from doing a combo set 245 in the long irons or do you feel like someone like this could go full set 243 because of the forgiveness improvement?
I would definitely consider the 245 more forgiving than the 243. That said, I think if you are comfortable with a smaller shape and find the center more than the heel/toe, then the 243 is very playable in the long clubs.
To me it becomes more so a question of height and distance control on the mis-hit's
With the 245 I think (at the same loft) it is gives you more height and distance than the 243 on a mis-hit which is really important in your longer clubs imo.
Me personally, I was considering a 245/243 combo set with 245 in the 4/5i and 243 6-PW all bent 1-2* weak. This would give me a hair of help in the longer clubs and then more control in the shorter ones which, on paper, sounds like a darn near perfect set.
I'm comfortable with my ball-striking, but finding the center is always difficult with a 4/5 iron in a smaller head and I think the 245 just offers a bit more help which I do really like.
Just get a FliHi 4i, forgiveness is highly overrated except at the far ends of the spectrum. Speed and desired flight should drive iron selection mostly!
@@TheEquipmentJunkie Thanks for the response, that’s what I currently play in 223/225 and will probably do the same with the new set. Appreciate the great content!
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I used to game the jpx 900 hot metals. Now I’m gaming the ping i210s. Which Mizuno models are the most comparable to the ping i210s and would you recommend them over the i210s? Are the t200s the comparable line for Titleist?
I think the 243 would definitely be your best bet in the Mizuno lineup and T150 in terms of the Titleist lineup 👍
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Would -1 loft mess with bounce and offset? Would be my concern I have pretty high club speed mid/high 90s with 7i could use some more loft but I still create 68-7k spin and 130ft high balls standard
Delofting by one degree would increase offset and decrease bounce a bit. Given that the increased bounce is a big selling point of this new line that would be an unfortunate consequence.
I wish manufacturers would literally eliminate offset to the point of I truly wish to look down on a blade with onset: playing a club that makes you feel like you have to address the ball differently, like an iron with heavy offset greater than 2-3mm, than you normally would, is a real challenge for me.
For everybody!
Offset is for moving the ball left and higher. Just the opposite of what a good player wants.
What is your club head speed with a seven iron?
I haven't measured it in a while, to be fair, but on Trackman I want to say in the 93-96 mph range.
Tremendous review and beautiful ball striking. How’d you compare these to PXG 0317t’s in terms of forgiveness and feel?
Also curious about this, and feel!
Guys I have 0317T and 225’s and the 225’s are much much more forgiving and feel softer/muted with strikes overall. The 0317T when hit right on the sweet spot nothing feels like it.
So I’m guessing the 245’s vs 0317T be similar to what I described above.
Thanks for the kind words Scott!
I would say they are actually relatively comparable overall, just in slightly different packages.
The 245 plays with a bit less bounce than the 0317T's, which is something to consider.
Feel wise, it's close but I think I would give the edge to the 0317T's. They just don't feel hollow to me at all, which is really impressive for a players distance iron.
Forgiveness wise, I think I would give the edge to the 245's, especially in the longer clubs.
Looks wise, I prefer the 0317T's in the shorter clubs, but the slightly thicker look of the 245's in the longer clubs.
Overall it's genuinely quite close and just depends what you are looking for. I would really recommend testing both before making a decision.
Appreciate the feedback. Sounds like a true pillow fight no pun intended. Great site.@@TheEquipmentJunkie
Might look at 243/245 combo 5-PW
Was thinking about this today actually. 245's bent 1-2 weak in the 4/5 and 243's bent 1-2 weak in the 6-PW sound absolutely sick imo.
@@TheEquipmentJunkie would it not bother you at home different they look if blended?
@@TheEquipmentJunkie This would be a no brainer if Mizuno made the 243 for lefties. Shocked they chose to make 241 lefty instead of 243.
Another year of iron releases and the iBlade is safe in the bag 😅
iBlades are a class iron! The new Blueprint S definitely has my attention though as a potential successor…
Have you tested/considered the new BPS at all?
No doubting the feel and performance but I'm not in love with the shape and address position view of the 241's. Wilson Staff model way better shape at address and i reckon they'll beat these hands down at a more competitive value for money price point. Lets face it. Golf equipment at this level is very expensive.
Mizuno's best Irons to date, are the MX-20's and the MX-23's. It's not even an argument. They should produce them again.
hit the 245's and are a touch more forgiving than the 225's on thin shots and not as long. everything else is the same. Also, a little higher ball flight. As a high ball, high spin player the 225's are better for me. If there were no 225's, I would buy the 245's.
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Oh… the 241’s are unreal…
If only the 243s looked like the other 2. 241 and 245 look great. 243…not so much.
And no 243 for lefties? Yikes…
What pro wins with mizuno ?🤷🏻♂️….Japan clubs look nice ,but who uses them ,even Justin rose got rid of Japan clubs !!…..look nice ,but performance?
I would say this is more off a sponsor/money thing then performance.
I just picked up the 223s. The 6 iron is tough for me to hit. I switched to graphite shafts this year. Not the fastest swing speed. Previously played the 923 Hot metals. Any suggestions on a 6 iron. Should I consider the 245? Or go back to the hot metal family for height and forgiveness? My miss is a thin shot.