Be careful, Brian. You're cutting it really close. If you keep pushing the window like this, then you're going to eventually release the breakdown if the injury before the injury happens. Remember, in this universe that doesn't normally happen.
I like watching his breakdowns but he's also been way off at times. I remember he was one of the few that didn't think Aaron Rodgers injury was an Achilles, and it gave me falso hope. He also thought LeBrons foot injury wasnt that serious last year when he hurt it against the Mavs but it ended up being a torn ligament that derailed him the entire season. I wasn't mad that he was wrong, I was just sad because it gave me false hope
We have to keep in mind he's a very flexible athlete and that may have saved him from a serious injury I would like to think. The team said, "Hamstring Strain." Hopefully that's all it really is. Dude is playing like and absolute monster this season. #GoPacers
They said strain because they needed to call it something. They know where the injury is but can't determine severity until imaging is done. Don't put anything into the immediate language released. Wait for the imaging.
Flexibility helps but not when your hamstrings are tighten for the drive in jump, he wasn’t relaxed when split happened, his hammy was tighten like a brick before the split happened
They have to say something like @trixter said.... I was there, he was in extreme pain. could not put weight on anything. praying for him because I know how much work he's put into his craft. All the hard work had paid off and then the floor was slippery. Earlier in the game he also slipped and fell hard, he was not happy and had to walk it off and even told his coach about it (the slipperiness). After that, the floor cleaning kid was really working hard with that large flat round white pad, but it happened again. I'm guessing they will do a very deep dive into why the floor was slippery. I thought he was really hurt badly the first time he slipped because it happened close to me and I had to cringe when it happened.
Can’t put into words how much I love these videos, Doc. So much going on but you make it sound so simple. Hoping, as you say, there is no tendon damage for Tyrese. He’s having the best season of his career and you’d hate to see it come to such an abrupt stop after all the hard work he has clearly put in over the offseason.
This freaking sucks and hali is such a good guy and balling out. I really hope it's not extremely serious and hoping for a healthy recovery. Thank you for the breakdown Dr. Sutterer Edited: Jeez now Morant is out for the season?! This is just a brutal year
I was hoping to see a Doc Sutterer video...and of course there it is! I pulled a hamstring 2 years ago in a similar mechanism. The pain was immense for a few days...and my toes tingles for months afterwards when I walked any significant distance.
ppl thinking it was a wet spot that caused this, it wasnt. its the shoes, i remember wearing the kobe 9s for the first times i slipped a couple times similar to him until i consciously realized i have to be a bit careful to step because the shoes were so flat and boxy when it comes to the bottom soles until you break it in.
Any real hooper knows it was his shoes because the Kobe 9 has a hard interior and exterior heel (due to the drop-in midsole design). Basically if you get low enough and make a Kyrie-like shifty move the hard part of the heel makes contact with the court. Because there is no grip on that part (it’s just smooth and literally rock hard) it’ll happen every single time if not careful. This is why shoes started coming out with curved outsoles with grip, to prevent things like this. Every Kobe 9 wearer, to some degree, has probably experienced something similar (if they get shifty). A few minutes before this incident he slid on that exact same spot of the shoe, at a different part of the floor (doing a very similar move with his foot). This proves that it wasn’t the floor but rather the location of where he placed his foot relative to that outside shell.
I was wondering if something was up with his shoes because it was the 2nd slip from him that night and no one else was showing signs of slipping. I hope he gets better soon.
@@Lucas-ElijahSadiq but other people are saying a bone my have popped off or been broken requiring screws and pins and surgery and thus possibly affecting career and things like that. I know it's all a guess right now, but I'm so worried for this young man in the prime of his career at the age of 24 years old.
For basketball players, their legs are their bread and butter. I hate to see it when one has to go out of the game, realizing that the ability to run and pivot, essential for effectiveness, has been severely impacted... Well, it doesn't feel good. They could be out for months, the entire year, and beyond. One slip, and you're out of the league, buddy. It's a business. I hope Haliburton can live to see the long, illustrious career he's worked so hard for become realized. We wish him a speedy recovery, loyal NBA fans.
not a Pacer fan but damn that hurt, they were having an awesome season too. hope the dude recovers fully. on another note though, those shoes gripped fxck all sliding the length it did.
NOOO! Everyone was so high on this dude. He is ballin out of his mind! What an absolute bummer! Hoping for a speedy recover. ☹As always, thanks for the insight, Doc.
Love the breakdown, very informative. Hope Halliburton has a speedy recovery. Could really use a breakdown of my Sunday league knee injury when you get a chance
As sombody that knows pain on a daily basis. I sure hope that injury dosent turn out to be high towards a tendon . Thats still gone make him appreciate doing the simple movements.
Worst opponent ever are these injuries that can linger over these young players. Holi is balling although Indy is not my team you got to recognize! Love the HS MJ jersey in the background 👍🏻
The available body of research indicates that overstretch hamstring strain injuries (HSIs) can be particularly severe relative to running-induced HSIs. Brooks et al. (2006) reported that the average return to play time for 164 professional rugby players after experiencing a HSI was 17 days, but athletes who sustained an overstretch HSI specifically while kicking typically returned after 36 days. Askling et al. (2013) found that 75 elite soccer players, on average, returned to play 32 days after a running-induced HSI and 59 days after an overstretch HSI occurring from high kicking, glide tackling, or landing in a split position. Askling et al. (2006) examined the time required for self-reported athletic performance to return to pre-injury levels for 18 elite sprinters who experienced a running-induced HSI and for 15 professional dancers who suffered an overstretch HSI while performing a split. While sprinters reported to return to pre-injury performance typically 16 weeks later, dancers reported to return to pre-injury levels a startling 50 weeks after the split-induced HSI. One dancer even retired 17 months after the injury because of how resistant it was to healing. These findings indicate that the deleterious effects from an overstretch HSI are clearly longer lasting than those from a running-induced HSI. Furthermore, research has also indicated that a split-induced overstretch HSI may require even longer recovery time than a kick-induced HSI. Askling et al. (2008) assessed athletes from a wide variety of sports who suffered an overstretch HSI. Of the five athletes who suffered a HSI while kicking, four returned to sport in 15 weeks on average, and one retired as a result of the injury. Of the 14 athletes who suffered a HSI while performing a split, five returned to sport in 49 weeks on average, and nine retired as a result of the injury.
You can only do so much to prevent this type of injury due to the mechanism that caused the injury. There will be tension on the hamstrings, especially with this level of athlete. It's a double edged sword - tight hammies make them fast, but also can predispose one to a strain. Plus you can't necessarily stop someone from slipping on a court during game play.
I'm watching this video to see how bad it is and if I should grab his backup in fantasy basketball for Oubre and while I'm watching an opponent picks up McConnell...damn! Hope Hali recovers quickly, hate to see the stars and fan favorite players get injured
@@fluworldorder426 3-4 weeks is obvious but I didn't even finish the video as the other guy picked up TJ. For all I knew before playing the clip it might have been a game or two.
@@Spetz i read yahoo blurb about helped up the court and full splits it was enuff for me. Maybe nembhard outperforms him oubre prolly decent pickup 2 good luck
@@fluworldorder426 trying to trade Oubre and THJ in a package for Jalen Johnson in a points league. I like Oubre too but Johnson seems to have more upside. Targetting Vince Williams at midnight as the consolation prize. Good luck to you as well!
i think it has to do more with the basketball floor than shoes. Why do they have to be so smooth and slippery, a slightly rough finish would prevent slips and falls.
It is the shoes. The Kobe 9 has a hard exterior because it is a drop in midsole. This used to happen to me when I played in mine if you get low enough and make a Kyrie like move because the carbon fiber part of the midsole/outsole makes contact with the court. There is no group on that part of the outsole so it’ll happen every single time if not careful. If you watch the previous time he slid at the same exact same spot on the shoe at a different part of the floor, proving that it wasn’t the floor but the location of where he placed his foot.
Got a question for you doc, i played soccer varsity all 4 Years of high-school. In a game i got kicked so hard on the inside of my foot, that the only part that hurt was the outside of my foot. Was wondering how that would work. Where he kicked me didnt hurt or swell up at all.
It could also be an avulsion with a fragment of bone coming off of the ischium. But yes... I do agree with the rest of your diagnosis. Will be very interesting as to whether they choose to operate on it or not. I would assume if it actually involves a bony fragment then they will actually try to repair it with screws or bone anchors. Keep up the great work!
He was right about AR 15 for the Colts so I believe him hopefully it's at most a 10 game absence if that 2 weeks is about 7 to 8 games and that can make or break or season come TY
something is torn in there, which is what a hamstring strain is (at the very least).... but the awkwardness of these splits is very concerning. you could hear a feather hit the ground in the aftermath. sobering. happened closest to the Boston bench and they knew it was bad.
@lordmegatron4789 people on espn and the talk shows been sucking this guys ass and hes only played like 10 good games realistically now he is hurt 😒 soo sarcastically I put the first comment ..cant you comprehend it now my friend from west Virginia?
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The best feeling about this channel is watching an injury highlight and always being able to find the breakdown the very same day in this channel.
Be careful, Brian. You're cutting it really close. If you keep pushing the window like this, then you're going to eventually release the breakdown if the injury before the injury happens. Remember, in this universe that doesn't normally happen.
I’m just happy he explains what happens cuz it goes unaddressed for awhile with these stars and am grateful for his insight!
Lol seriously! He's time slipping again
He has the script!
I like watching his breakdowns but he's also been way off at times. I remember he was one of the few that didn't think Aaron Rodgers injury was an Achilles, and it gave me falso hope. He also thought LeBrons foot injury wasnt that serious last year when he hurt it against the Mavs but it ended up being a torn ligament that derailed him the entire season. I wasn't mad that he was wrong, I was just sad because it gave me false hope
Brian sees the Red Cross signal and he goes down the pole to the Med Cave.
We have to keep in mind he's a very flexible athlete and that may have saved him from a serious injury I would like to think. The team said, "Hamstring Strain." Hopefully that's all it really is. Dude is playing like and absolute monster this season. #GoPacers
They said strain because they needed to call it something. They know where the injury is but can't determine severity until imaging is done. Don't put anything into the immediate language released. Wait for the imaging.
It is a hamstring strain. There’s different grades. Until he has an MRI they won’t know how bad.
Flexibility helps but not when your hamstrings are tighten for the drive in jump, he wasn’t relaxed when split happened, his hammy was tighten like a brick before the split happened
@@roblockhart8410 they also don't know if it's a strain or a tear until MRI
They have to say something like @trixter said.... I was there, he was in extreme pain. could not put weight on anything. praying for him because I know how much work he's put into his craft. All the hard work had paid off and then the floor was slippery. Earlier in the game he also slipped and fell hard, he was not happy and had to walk it off and even told his coach about it (the slipperiness). After that, the floor cleaning kid was really working hard with that large flat round white pad, but it happened again. I'm guessing they will do a very deep dive into why the floor was slippery. I thought he was really hurt badly the first time he slipped because it happened close to me and I had to cringe when it happened.
Game isnt even over yet and Doc gets his upload in! Great work as always
Thank you Doc for the diagnosis 🙏🏽& praying your channel continues to grow 🙏 Prayers to Tyrese to heal 🙏.
Technically that means more athletes and ppl have to get hurt so he can make a video so you're indirectly praying for ppl to get injured
🤕🤕🤕
Can’t put into words how much I love these videos, Doc. So much going on but you make it sound so simple.
Hoping, as you say, there is no tendon damage for Tyrese. He’s having the best season of his career and you’d hate to see it come to such an abrupt stop after all the hard work he has clearly put in over the offseason.
This freaking sucks and hali is such a good guy and balling out. I really hope it's not extremely serious and hoping for a healthy recovery. Thank you for the breakdown Dr. Sutterer
Edited: Jeez now Morant is out for the season?! This is just a brutal year
I was just watching the clip of his injury on ESPN and got the notification for this
I was hoping to see a Doc Sutterer video...and of course there it is! I pulled a hamstring 2 years ago in a similar mechanism. The pain was immense for a few days...and my toes tingles for months afterwards when I walked any significant distance.
Doc thank you so much for breaking down these injuries because for a basketball fan these videos give great insight into human anatomy...
ppl thinking it was a wet spot that caused this, it wasnt. its the shoes, i remember wearing the kobe 9s for the first times i slipped a couple times similar to him until i consciously realized i have to be a bit careful to step because the shoes were so flat and boxy when it comes to the bottom soles until you break it in.
Your upload speed is insane
Any real hooper knows it was his shoes because the Kobe 9 has a hard interior and exterior heel (due to the drop-in midsole design). Basically if you get low enough and make a Kyrie-like shifty move the hard part of the heel makes contact with the court. Because there is no grip on that part (it’s just smooth and literally rock hard) it’ll happen every single time if not careful. This is why shoes started coming out with curved outsoles with grip, to prevent things like this.
Every Kobe 9 wearer, to some degree, has probably experienced something similar (if they get shifty). A few minutes before this incident he slid on that exact same spot of the shoe, at a different part of the floor (doing a very similar move with his foot). This proves that it wasn’t the floor but rather the location of where he placed his foot relative to that outside shell.
That makes sense
I was wondering if something was up with his shoes because it was the 2nd slip from him that night and no one else was showing signs of slipping. I hope he gets better soon.
damn
Upload speed is amazing as always. Thanks for doing these videos.
Honestly this guy is legit. He predicted a hamstring injury and that’s exactly what it was. Left hamstring injury. Your credibility is legit
I mean I would have said the same just by where he was grabbing
right lol
@@claytonmoore3027
Yeah, the mechanism of injury def suggests hamstring/groin.
@@Lucas-ElijahSadiq but other people are saying a bone my have popped off or been broken requiring screws and pins and surgery and thus possibly affecting career and things like that. I know it's all a guess right now, but I'm so worried for this young man in the prime of his career at the age of 24 years old.
@@claytonmoore3027 *Player grabs leg with bone sticking out*
Me: I predict he has broken his leg
Pacer's have a very good medical staff so hopefully things go smoothly and can get back to normal in time for the All Star game.
For basketball players, their legs are their bread and butter. I hate to see it when one has to go out of the game, realizing that the ability to run and pivot, essential for effectiveness, has been severely impacted... Well, it doesn't feel good. They could be out for months, the entire year, and beyond. One slip, and you're out of the league, buddy. It's a business.
I hope Haliburton can live to see the long, illustrious career he's worked so hard for become realized. We wish him a speedy recovery, loyal NBA fans.
Man as a Pacers fan this hurts and wish the best for his recovery
Thanks Dr for your detailed insight.
And a prompt recovery to this awsome player
Phenomenal work Doc! Love that you made this so quickly and efficiently with the baby in the back ❤️🙏🏽
not a Pacer fan but damn that hurt, they were having an awesome season too. hope the dude recovers fully.
on another note though, those shoes gripped fxck all sliding the length it did.
NOOO! Everyone was so high on this dude. He is ballin out of his mind! What an absolute bummer!
Hoping for a speedy recover. ☹As always, thanks for the insight, Doc.
I love how unique and focused your channel is Doc. keep it up and good luck. Speedy recovery Tyrese
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This was so painful to watch. Feel awful for Haliburton. Even though he's not on my team, he's one of my favorite NBA players!
Thanks Doc!
Love the breakdown, very informative. Hope Halliburton has a speedy recovery. Could really use a breakdown of my Sunday league knee injury when you get a chance
Saw this live and ran to your UA-cam Channel!!!
As sombody that knows pain on a daily basis. I sure hope that injury dosent turn out to be high towards a tendon . Thats still gone make him appreciate doing the simple movements.
Worst opponent ever are these injuries that can linger over these young players. Holi is balling although Indy is not my team you got to recognize!
Love the HS MJ jersey in the background 👍🏻
Thanks Dr Brian Suturer
Great videos! You should also do some pro skateboarders who get injured!
The available body of research indicates that overstretch hamstring strain injuries (HSIs) can be particularly severe relative to running-induced HSIs. Brooks et al. (2006) reported that the average return to play time for 164 professional rugby players after experiencing a HSI was 17 days, but athletes who sustained an overstretch HSI specifically while kicking typically returned after 36 days. Askling et al. (2013) found that 75 elite soccer players, on average, returned to play 32 days after a running-induced HSI and 59 days after an overstretch HSI occurring from high kicking, glide tackling, or landing in a split position. Askling et al. (2006) examined the time required for self-reported athletic performance to return to pre-injury levels for 18 elite sprinters who experienced a running-induced HSI and for 15 professional dancers who suffered an overstretch HSI while performing a split. While sprinters reported to return to pre-injury performance typically 16 weeks later, dancers reported to return to pre-injury levels a startling 50 weeks after the split-induced HSI. One dancer even retired 17 months after the injury because of how resistant it was to healing. These findings indicate that the deleterious effects from an overstretch HSI are clearly longer lasting than those from a running-induced HSI. Furthermore, research has also indicated that a split-induced overstretch HSI may require even longer recovery time than a kick-induced HSI. Askling et al. (2008) assessed athletes from a wide variety of sports who suffered an overstretch HSI. Of the five athletes who suffered a HSI while kicking, four returned to sport in 15 weeks on average, and one retired as a result of the injury. Of the 14 athletes who suffered a HSI while performing a split, five returned to sport in 49 weeks on average, and nine retired as a result of the injury.
How does Brian Sutterer get these vids out so quick lol.. this game is still going on!!!
Doc went to school in Indiana, so he's gotta be a Pacers fan! He was probably watching live.
This is what I'm worried about. Now the Pacers are gonna fall from the standings. Prayers for him
Fast recovery wishes from Slovenia!
Do one for Penix Jr.
So fast.
Wish the best to all
Doc your cat is mad!! 😂 or sounds like a cat lol
BItter sweet to see your videos lol
I hate this injury so much. I'm hoping for a speedy recovery.
What grade do you think it is, Doc? Also, what kind of exercises/training can be done to make these muscles more durable to these type of incidents?
You can only do so much to prevent this type of injury due to the mechanism that caused the injury. There will be tension on the hamstrings, especially with this level of athlete. It's a double edged sword - tight hammies make them fast, but also can predispose one to a strain. Plus you can't necessarily stop someone from slipping on a court during game play.
Damn, tyrese was on a M.V.P. run before the all start break in february too.😑
You’re fast, Doc.
Grade I hamstring strain, re-evaluation in 2 weeks, best case scenario IMO
Doc be suited and booted on the ready at all times.
Dr Brian is from Indiana, I wonder if he’s Pacers fan.
I hope Hali heals quickly bc he’s been cooking 🙏
That said, ironically enough, had this happened to Wemby, he’d likely be perfectly fine
Bro is quick with it
He slipped pretty bad twice in the game, those shoes were probably the problem 😬
I'm watching this video to see how bad it is and if I should grab his backup in fantasy basketball for Oubre and while I'm watching an opponent picks up McConnell...damn! Hope Hali recovers quickly, hate to see the stars and fan favorite players get injured
Bro tj is an instant pickup even if its only 3 4 weeks i didnt need this vid to kno that
@@fluworldorder426 3-4 weeks is obvious but I didn't even finish the video as the other guy picked up TJ. For all I knew before playing the clip it might have been a game or two.
@@Spetz i read yahoo blurb about helped up the court and full splits it was enuff for me. Maybe nembhard outperforms him oubre prolly decent pickup 2 good luck
@@fluworldorder426 trying to trade Oubre and THJ in a package for Jalen Johnson in a points league. I like Oubre too but Johnson seems to have more upside. Targetting Vince Williams at midnight as the consolation prize. Good luck to you as well!
@@Spetz looks like we got lucky homie
He was having a great season, too, very unfortunate.
As soon as that carbin fiber touched the woodfloor the grip was gone on those kobe's 😱
Very good. Im sick of watching players taking two steps and not jumping
Firsts Ja Morant out for the season after suffering a shoulder injury, and now Tyrese Halliburton getting injured 😔
I’ve seen too many injuries happen when players wear those high top kobes
what tool do you use to look at the anatomy?
You can see the hamstring tear if you watch closely it is a manager tear
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I don't understand why the basketball court has to be so smooth and slippery. Why not give it a slightly rough finish to prevent slips and falls
The shoes are supposed to have traction
2 week injury for a strain 10 weeks for a rip
You can also hear a pop in the live video
Dlo just came back from the booty injury like Dwight Howard and the lakers commentators laughed
Doc do you think his change of shoe might have leed to this injury from kobe 6 to kobe 9
Am not saying the shoe is bad but he is used to play with kobe 6 so when he changed to 9 that might..
i think it has to do more with the basketball floor than shoes. Why do they have to be so smooth and slippery, a slightly rough finish would prevent slips and falls.
It is the shoes. The Kobe 9 has a hard exterior because it is a drop in midsole. This used to happen to me when I played in mine if you get low enough and make a Kyrie like move because the carbon fiber part of the midsole/outsole makes contact with the court. There is no group on that part of the outsole so it’ll happen every single time if not careful.
If you watch the previous time he slid at the same exact same spot on the shoe at a different part of the floor, proving that it wasn’t the floor but the location of where he placed his foot.
Left Thigh!!?? Not the Jewels!? Dang! I was hoping something that would affect all of his life bit just basketball
Wally zerbeck looking back at haul
It was confirmed that it’s a grade 1 left Hamstring strain.
What kind of estimated timeline are we looking at for his return?
dude acted like he was dying but then was walking around fine after the game lmao
Ouch!
Got a question for you doc, i played soccer varsity all 4 Years of high-school. In a game i got kicked so hard on the inside of my foot, that the only part that hurt was the outside of my foot. Was wondering how that would work. Where he kicked me didnt hurt or swell up at all.
Entertaining!
You could hear the Tear during the game
That’s why when you are an athlete be flexible also 👍🏻
Hopefully he comeback this year soon he having a all nba season
At 2:30 you can see a torn muscle, I hope Im wrong
It could also be an avulsion with a fragment of bone coming off of the ischium. But yes... I do agree with the rest of your diagnosis. Will be very interesting as to whether they choose to operate on it or not. I would assume if it actually involves a bony fragment then they will actually try to repair it with screws or bone anchors. Keep up the great work!
If that's the case, would that be season-ending?
@@dabneyoffermein595I think so
Avulsions of the tendon are bad and surgical. Im worried about his career…
@@kineahora8736 omg, say it ain't so
is that what the loud POP was?
hamstring is one of those muscles that heals somehow really slow no matter the amount of recovery effort you put into it 😅
So he did a split w/o stretching??
Can u talk about Penix Injuries in the national championship
Preech
i really think the kobe 9 is one of the worst shoes to play in from a traction stand point.
Hali is usualy top smooth with his steps, this is a bad timing to slip ouch
He was right about AR 15 for the Colts so I believe him hopefully it's at most a 10 game absence if that 2 weeks is about 7 to 8 games and that can make or break or season come TY
Is that your baby in the background? How cute!!
Semimembranosus tear plus possible semitendinosus tear (by tear I mean a strain) is my prediction
I think Brian is an advanced AI
Hamstring or Groin Cause that definitely is split
The nba courts are so awesome they didn't test them.
Would putting on more muscle help with these kinds of injuries?
.. ha, no
@@kramer1372 How do you figure?
@@DarnellBarbour ..injury has nothing to do with muscle mass…or lack thereof…
Men don’t do splits injury
Hey doc, would a snapping noise only come from a tear or can it come from pulling a muscle?
it would come from many things, including clicking your fingers together
A pulled muscle occurs when muscle fibers tear.
It also comes from pouring milk on Rice Krispies. 🥛 🥣
I believe they said left hamstring strain
something is torn in there, which is what a hamstring strain is (at the very least).... but the awkwardness of these splits is very concerning. you could hear a feather hit the ground in the aftermath. sobering. happened closest to the Boston bench and they knew it was bad.
I tore the pubic symphysis in a similar fashion. A hell of a way to go out. Wish him a speedy recovery.
Already???
Athletes are so soft these days
JB just made the All Star game 🤷🏾♂️
grade 1 strain. re-evaluated in 2 weeks.
Damn that’s such an unfortunate injury hopefully he’ll back sooner than later pacers are a fun watch
ow!
Now he is rethinking his shoe choices - you can clearly see, NIKE is not bad luck, it is bad grip
Of course the point god would have the same injury Chris Paul had
No no no hes the greatest ever !!! Remember guys he had like 2 good games this season Remember!!!!haha I been saying hes fools gold
what are you even talking about?
@lordmegatron4789 people on espn and the talk shows been sucking this guys ass and hes only played like 10 good games realistically now he is hurt 😒 soo sarcastically I put the first comment ..cant you comprehend it now my friend from west Virginia?