The Easiest 2-Rail Kick System with Jennifer Barretta and Rollie Williams
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- Before the Coronavirus broke out, Rollie Williams stopped by Skyline Billiards in Brooklyn to learn a 2-rail kicking system from the one and only Jennifer Barretta. She uses a simple numbering system (the long rail starts at 0 and goes to 80 and the short rail starts at 10 and goes to 90 (every half diamond is 10). You simply add up the short rail and the long rail to reach a point on the long rail.
We also used the Spot-on-the-Wall method to ensure we could use whole numbers instead of having to do 2-digit math.
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Damn she explains this so well... Not only can she do it consistently, but also make it easier for everyone watching
English on the ball and the power the ball contacts the rail also has a lot to do with how it reacts.
Agree and Rollie has a self-deprecating and humorous way of communicating with all of his teachers and I appreciate that interaction. Cheers.
Terrible instruction. Horrible.
It's a good system, for those that do not like numeric systems theres is an extremely simple, quick and accurate geometric method: unite the cue ball and the object ball with an imaginary line and find its mid point, project a line from there to the center of corner pocket in front of you, and just shoot parallel to that line. It might sound complicated but it actually requires just to stand a little further from the table and use your cue as a reference.
This is the method I use. Find the mid point between cue ball and object ball. Aim from that spot to the pocket the cue ball will travel past. Then parallel shift the line you've made from the mid point to behind the cue ball and shoot toward the rail from there. Worked like magic the very first time I learned it. Its harder to explain than it is to demonstrate.
@@wDawks nah. If you play pool you will understand it. You explained it well. This method is way easier and quicker and less complicated than hers.
I use this too and yes you explained it well
Bro. I use a system like this for banking, but never knew this kicking system. I will definitely try this. Thank you both for explaining. Could you please further explain the point you aim from the mid point of cue ball and object ball? You said corner pocket in front of you and guy who replied said the corner pocket the cue ball will travel past. Kind of confused.
@@xjcrossx We both mean the same thing: when you're kicking two rails you're always shooting towards a corner pocket hence that's your reference. Just stand mid distance from the cueball and object ball facing said pocket and point the cue toward the middle of it, you'll immediately visualize the trajectory.
I feel that Jennifer is a good instructor. She explains things in a way that the student can understand and master what she is teaching. Great video for learning.
Only thing is she constantly tells you how good she is which would make me walk out
@@imhungry2387that dufus she’s with 😂
As an PBIA instructor out of Phoenix, AZI feel the players should follow lessons taught especially by Professional Players such a Jennifer. Systems that pro's use are also quick due to them many times on the shot clock in their matches. Great video.
Watched a lot of videos recently trying to improve my non existing game and she is a great teacher and explains what she's doing very well . Thank you .
who on earth dislikes this? I don't even play pool (billiards) and this is amazing!
Shut up you idiot.
@@samphilipp4997 fuc you
Not billiards fans that's for sure. Whoever they are. 😂
She’s makes a great teacher 😋
The people that keep secrets. 😎
Great video. I use a similar system and know "spot on the wall" but Jennifer's really simplifies things. Thanks!
This is how I used to watch people play in 90s when I was a kid! Now when you make one shot of those you become a legend!
Actually, the numbers coming around the corner on the short rail is in half diamond increments of 10 units each just as they are along the opposite short rail for aiming.
The corner is 80. One half diamond past that would be 90, and another half diamond would be 100, which is the first full diamond along the short rail.
Therefore, the number values for the 3 diamonds along the short rail are 100, 120, and 140, respectively.
Love this video, explains everything so clearly and makes it easy! Thanks!
Outstanding work Mr. Rollie.
Absolutely a game changer. Thanks for posting this.
Spot on the wall is an amazing concept. I heard of it but couldn't find it. Then practicing through the diamonds on a path I knew, I noticed aiming through the various half paths and I suddenly noticed a picture on the wall. Looking from the corner pocket through about middle of the rail, lo and behold, a picture of Donny a great pool player, was right there. That picture was my new aiming point! Spot on the wall, is amazing. Trying the above technique without that basis, "Spot on the wall" is frustrating.
I've watched a lot of these systems, seems in the end the best approach is to develop intuition and be able to visualise the lines
THIS is how you develop intuition or feel in 1% of the time it would take other wise.
Awesome stuff, love seeing different kicking systems using the diamonds. Thanks for sharing your secrets Jen:)
"Word"
-Jennifer Barretta
This is awesomely explained! Love the video!
Very fun and instructive video, thank both of you
I learned this system 25 yrs ago and it is flawless. Made my One pocket game much stronger.
This is so cool. So much great knowledge. This will be helpful in my game.
Thank You! 🙏
Thanks Jenn ! This is very simple.
This lesson was great! Thanks!!
Your shot on the 60 hit and make was awesome.
This explains some of the performance which we find extraordinary.
Since safety play is an integral part of the game/s, learning some type of accurate kicking system is important. Better players are adept at getting shape on their next ball but all players will occasionally find themselves in situations where they have to kick to at least one rail to make a legal hit on the next ball. I am preaching to myself here. Cheers
A Very Good Learning Video, Thanks.
Thanks for sharing Kamui! I'm going to try this for sure! Curious, what kind of stick do you use and what weight?
I knew the plus system, but did not know you could use it like this. Everyone else has you counting the difference between the origin and the target and then aiming for the diamond that equals the difference. (If you need to hit two diamonds up from the originating diamond, you aim at 2, or 20 with her numbers, which is 1/2 way between the corner pocket and the first diamond.) But seeing that you can use this by going from 0 along the long rail and the two numbers add up to the target makes this so much easier to understand. The point on the wall is flawed, if you don't get the right distance from the table. But there are ways to zero in on the exact point and take out the guessing. It makes more sense after watching it a 2nd time. Hopefully I'll remember this next time I need it.
How do you compensate with diamond tables essentially destroying diamond systems by lowering the height of the rails and making them play short?
Read up about this and other rail systems a while back in Tor's PKF book, great system, but whenever ppl see me using it and making crazy accurate 2, 3 or 4 rail kicks and banks, and ask me how I'm working it out, the moment i try explaining it to them, they aren't interested because of the maths involved lol.
Wow, that's an awesome kicking system. I've always been pretty good at kicking at balls, but I just went by feel. Can't wait to try this.
Me too
Feel is everything
Getting the feel through practice is still best. Efren Reyes can do up to 6 rail kicks with high precision and I'm pretty sure he never used this system.
@@eustacehendrix9659 feel and muscle memory is all that is needed.
@@perun4649 been saying this for years you have to feel the shot if you want to make it
@@eustacehendrix9659 Efren is also the greatest to ever play the game. For the rest of us mortals, systems are extremely beneficial.
I see Rollie, I click
Excelente video, muy bien explicado y lo que mas me gusta es que los numeros llevan un patron constante. En otros sistemas por ejemplo, a una distancia x los numeros tienen un valos pero ya despues de la migad de la banda o algo asi valen mas o valen menos en igual distancia, es decir que es dificiñ de recordar, en este sistema no es así.
With all these numbers I was expecting James Grime to walk in.
When using the diamond system, especially, during league or tournament, and if you have access to practice on the table(s) before starting, practice shooting a few diamond angles because all tables' cushions, and cloth, play different from others. So, depending on those conditions you may need to adjust your amount of English based on the table.
This might just change my life 😂😂
The thing which I criticize most with all those counting systems (no matter which one) is the way how they are introduced: always with having object balls along the rails which makes it easier to get into the system. But you'll rather have situations with cueball and objectball somewhere on the table which makes those systems way more complicated.
My favorite are the "3 Rail Kicking systems " where the video starts with them putting a ball in the corner pocket then non chalantly kicking 3 rails on the line we learned at age 12 and after making it look up like they did something impressive then go on to not move the object ball and meaningful distance. I get not starting with a difficult position but after explaining the basics there's no reason to not move on to more difficult positions.
Very cool, keep it up Rollie
Thank you. Just amazing.
These are great! Stay safe and healthy. Looking forward for more when the situation gets better again.
love your videos , rollie "rox" williams !
Awesome system!
Great system!!
This system works great! Great share my friend!
I'm gonna have to try this.
I got beat once when my safety trap was broken out of by three rail kick in a game of ball in hand eightball...I just played rec eightball but entered tournament where you had to hit your color first, usual, but if you missed, ball in hand...new to me...then I knew billiards had the diamond system, famously described in Donald Duck Math Magic Land, but that was first time to see it...my opponent was locked up in a corner, behind ball not his color...bip bip bip and out of the trap...I never had the patience for billiards and the diamond system, just cant remember that math like stuff...but this system I can recall, and as an amateur artist familiar with vanishing points that "spot on the wall" is like "wot?"...never would have occurred to me...pure gold...☺
Thank you so much for mentioning Donald Duck Math Magic Land... I saw it in 4th grade, and spent decades trying to find the name of that, just for the pool scene haha
@@kcmsterpce That video is here on UA-cam. Was nostalgic for me also.
Thank you!
GREAT INTRUCTION!
Great video. If you don't want to use spot on the wall, just take 1/2 the distance between the center of your cue ball and your line. It's a parallel line to this. You'll see that mathematically you're still aiming at where the spot on the wall would be. For people that have trouble aiming into the distance, it allows you to aim at a point on the rail (table).
Hello to both. Thank you for the awesome instructions. Can to please tell me the starting spot on the long rail when finding the spot at 2.36 in the video. Is it at about half a diamond from the corner pocket or the corner or maybe the camera showing looks like half a diamond. And if it is half a diamond then the reason for that point. Thank you, Arun
What if the ball is 3/4 down the table towards the center? Do you look side to side and see what diamond it's near? When you find what diamond it's near, how do you tell the number? Do you tell the number by which diamond the ball is closest to?
This was a heck of a heck of a hell of an upload.👍😎.
Well thank you very much.
Rollie Williams stay safe bud 👍.
I e watched you play with numbers 10-80 and on other tables 1-whatever. 2.5 3 3.5. Kinda confused. I’ll get it figured out. Bought me a g series cue. Be here Wednesday. Can’t wait to use it.
I love this simple idea....but how do I hit the object ball that is somewhere in the middle of the table? example, on the break dot
I like how the guy practicing his shot ok the table behind them, kept missing that straight in 1 ball shot!🤣
Question, does the system work the same way if we hit the side rail first the end rail? Same exact way? I tried it but it's way off hitting side rail to end rail.
amazing system
what would the numbering system be on a 7ft table? is it still the same?
Thanks!
Thank you
Jennifer, Can you tell me what cue you are using when you told Rollie that he needs to get one of these. Thanks
I can see that this is a powerful system and will definitely practice this next time I'm at a table! I have a question about the "spot on the wall" method. Is the idea behind a distant spot that when you move over just a small amount from the original line-up between, say, the 50 and 30 line(for a shot to the corner) that you are basically doing a parallel shift of your cue line? Is the actual difference in direction when you pivot around the "spot on the wall" just negligible, and it basically give you that parallel shift? Thanks for any insight anyone has about this!
I don’t think the parallel shift method really works with 2 or 3 rail shots. It’s slightly more complex than that. The blind spot method works well for me though on 2 and 3 rail shots. But I find myself needing to apply left/inside English rather than top English.
11:20 guy in the background mIsses a one handed shot and walks away like he meant to miss. Way to own the room
Haha good spot man, if doin some cool pub scene one handed shots... not with THAT grip haha.
I saw some young teen girls playing one handed shots like that.cos they lacked the ability to coordinate two hands
@@marksimpson2321 dont be fooled all those east coast players or locals can be elite A players just cause they hitting balls and missing dont mean they aint good believe me thats a way to trap an opponent who thinks maybe is a good shooter
“That “thing” came from your wall, man!” 😂
Thank you Jennifer. You taught me more about something I love than any girlfriend I’ve ever had ever has. Amazing; awesome of you to share.
Congratulations on 100k subscribe
Does this system have an easy adjustment when the first rail on the bank is the long rail and not the short rail? Or will this not work at all for that?
Brilliant
Very nice!
I haven't touched a queue in 20 years, but you actually make me reconsider...
Haven’t touched a what?
@@r8wells A queue. That's how we spell it in the developed world :P
Lol, sure you do buddy. I’m sure you’re the only one
Awesome 👍
@Rollie Williams, this shows how to do a 2 rail kick shot going short then long rail. Is there a system when hitting the long rail then the short rail that we could learn?
Parallel shift system.
This makes the other video understandable. Thank you.
Great Video !
Muy bueno gracias
this is from ancient times where people can roam outside their houses playing billiard
Facts
It's funny because it's sort of true!
As a child [16 ] I'd drive 10 or 20 miles to various pool halls around my town, crowded smokey places with all types of people. We didnt always get along, but we always had a story. Hard to think those days might be over.
@@youcanbesmartaskhow3857 deff over buddy
@@youcanbesmartaskhow3857 how?
Also some pool halls are still popping. But not like Mosconi, fats, Eddie Taylor even buddy hall/Strickland early days. One in Louisiana makes cues there at the hall. Don't know any who change tips at the hall
Can someone explain what effect that I have to put on cue ball?
She is very Arrogant and conceded
Very cool! What cue is Jennifer using!
Great drill
Does this system work well on all table sizes or do u have to adjust the system depending on the table size?
I've tried it on bar tables 7 footers, it does not work that work well. That is the one thin g she did not mention, different size tables.
Does this method not working on certain tables? Tried it multiple times on perhaps a slightly smaller table and it was going one diamond far.
Does this system work on any size table?
Very nice 😀
what about when the object ball is somewhere out in the middle of the table? I mean yes you can see what diamond the cue ball will travel off but you don't know where exactly it will hit off the second rail to head at the diamond.
This has been around for 50-60 yrs that I know of.
I think this is Tor Lowry's method lol great video
What do you do when the cue ball is on the "opposite" side of the table? & the cue ball is on your 40 position per say.
What cue stick does Jennifer shoot with? Looks like a Predator Revo shaft? Has that "clink" sound anyway.
Mezz ignite
Excellent video, first video of yours I have see . One question, what is “running” English? Is it too spin ?
John Keogh sidespin in the ”direction” of the rolling ball, in their case left spin. Google for it and you will get plenty of advice. “Running english is a type of english that imparts sidespin on a cue ball that caroms from a rail when contacted on an angle in such a way that spins with, rather than against, the ball's natural direction of travel and momentum”
Gustaf Friberg thanks, I knew the concept just had not heard the term “running english” before. Should have been able to figure it out but I appreciate the response.
What cue is using (6:43) when she says, "You gotta get one of these"
wow, impressive!
Great Info Jennifer, What brand and details on your cue stick do you have??......Getting a retirement gift for myself!!!.....Finally!...LOL!....Thanks again.....
What if i need to hit long rail first? How will the system adjust?
Great Video and System! But what about if the Object Ball isnt on the Rail ... how to Figure the path of the cueball out with a 2 rail kick system?
Talkboxer R just know the angle off of the object ball. Insert this system to play position or a safety.
When she said you got to get one of these, was hoping for a link to the cue lol
I just got the cuetec synergy dakota edition that shane van boening uses. 100% recommend if you are looking for a new cue
I love my Meucci ME2103
Angelshae this is a Revo 12.4 combined with P3 black. Absolutely outstanding cue!
@@ianniskondilis4245 Thank you so much, I think this will be a birthday gift to my self soon!
is there a way to do this but long rail first?
Corner 5 system
Yes but you would have to aim at 70 which is near the pocket to do the opposite corner
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The spot on the wall system works with (3) cushion shots also. (I do it all the time.)
thank you JENN9MMBARRETTA
Does table size make a difference? I shoot on 7' tables for league, but I have an 8' at home that I practice on.
No difference, the math is the same.
I developed on my own this same method but I don't use a number system, I do it by moving 1 space up the long rail and half a space on the end rail. So if you go 1 diamond on the long rail, you'd then go half a diamond on the end rail, you just need to know the starting point. The path is on exactly the same path as this system, so for example her 30-50 would be the exact spot my system would put you on. 30 is 2 diamonds from the starting point so move half that or 1 diamond on the end rail and you end up on the same line as her 30-50. ETC. I can do the same thing on 3 rail kicks.
I'll explain it better if anyone is interested.
I never heard of aiming at a point on the wall, sounds interesting will give that a try.
Mike, I would like to learn more of your method and so please help me understand it. Thank you, Arun
Which part of the clock should u be hitting ?
Also on 2 rail shots there is a simplified system of stepping back and just split the distance between the cue ball & object ball. find the middle of the two balls on the rail then hit that mark with some running english. no need to remember numbers
Does it matter if it’s not a full size table?