2020 Kia Stinger GT vs Volkswagen Arteon R-Line // $50,000 Face Off
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- James and Thomas compare the 2020 Stinger GT 20th Anniversary with the Volkswagen Arteon. Both cars are brand flagships, are liftback sedans, automatics, and incredibly good looking. The boys explore how fun they are, and what they're like to live with.
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"This car poops in a bag and leaves it at the door of BMW 3-series owners." - That is unbridled Shakespearian poetry if I've ever heard it.
Your intellectualism and word choice originality baffles me, sir.
Love BMW but I kinda agree...
He called the shit poop!
Literally traded in my 335i for a Stinger GT1 haha
Hahahah
Stinger: Grey with red interior
Arteon: Red with grey interior
This wasn't on purpose was it ?
it's pretty standard on both cars but fun when u point it out
Grey with red >>>
Like nr. 666 LMAO
Ahhahahah
EVERYTHING IS CONNECTED
Stinger: selling horribly
Volkswagen: we NEED to develop a competitor for this!!
ECN That’s my name Kia Stinger selling horribly = their used car will be cheap even the GT2
That’s good for our broke fellas
@@Happytylermovieproducction lowest I’ve seen a GT stinger that is worth buying is 29k
Don't see it as a true competitor really. One is a purpose built, proper longitudinally mounted drivetrain sport sedan with a V6.. The other is a restyled Passat, with a run of the mill transverse FWD layout and a 4 banger....
@@Happytylermovieproducction definitely not, I’m planning to get this as my first car in a couple months
In true VW fashion, it even has a check engine light on! Part of the experience
I own mine for 6 years and everything is perfect, not even a single bulb changed :)
@@yourvault1612 either lucky 1%, or he/she is in the European market where they're more reliable because they're built with their reliable local parts as opposed to American parts.
@@frazierl7898 oh i wondered what the deal was with Americans saying Volkswagens are unreliable, I’m from Ireland and there’s loads of Volkswagens on the roads here, and no one talks about them being unreliable.
@@SeanWithaFada German cars are notoriously expensive to repair in the US.
@@patrickmartin3322 Yeah and US cars are equally expensive to repair in Europe, lol.
That KIA 'gotta tell everyone' bit at the beginning would be definitely relatable until they released Telluride. After the release of Stinger and Telluride, KIA is making a big splash in a very very saturated market. Also after seeing the K5 Optima renders, I'm speechless. I hope KIA fixes their dealerships and gives the post purchase experience to match the competition.
Davy K The 21 Optima reminds me a lot of a Lincoln MKZ.
SouthSide WhiteBhoy ewww very ugly you should get a Volvo
yonda ila umm no
Amen. Love my Stinger GT
The dealers are so bad and the main thing holding KIA/Hyundai back.
Typical person commenting on car vs car videos: "This car is better, I don't own it, I don't own the other car either, but the fact that I like one more than the other makes it better"
after you are old enough to have paid off your first car you will develop something called "common sense."
so when you see a 50,000$ volkswagen that is slower than a camry, it's Ok to raise an eyebrow.
@@potatochobit Yes well said !!! I would rather purchase a CPO LEXUS BMW MB etc....
@@potatochobit Its a stupid comparison, as the Arteon is more competition for a base Stinger. A base Arteon is $37K are compares favorably to a Kia Stinger GT-line Sun+Sound model for $36K.
@@potatochobit it will fall apart before you have time to pay it off. In here in the US it’s very hard to find a good German car mechanic Plus those parts $$$$$ a lot of the times it’s cheaper to buy a new car and then fix something really stupid especially with BMWs and German cars in general. I’m German I lived in Germany most of my life but when I moved to US and bought an Audi I learned a lot
You must not play any sports
I'm shocked that there aren't more Stingers on the road. I do believe that $50k is a bit much for a Kia sedan. As nice as the car is, it's serious money with lots of competition. Kia really needs to overdeliver until the stigma of the badge goes away. And I just wouldn't want to have to deal with a Kia dealership. But there is no denying that this car is absolutely fantastic.
It is much. Should be under $40.000 would sell more too.
@@mr.2cents.846a bmw with the same equipment is like 80-90k
@@mr.2cents.846 I disagree. They would be losing money, they actually give you so much for a lot less than the competition. Arteon isn't is trash, overpriced and slow
Hyundai should change its name to genesis. Kia should change its name to stinger. Toyota should change its name to Lexus. Plus the Camry Corolla and Prius civic accord etc need name changes. And not letters and numbers, actual names.
I work for Volks and when we first received the arteon and I popped the hood, I was let down.. with the amount of space the engine bay has, it could easily fit a 3.6l VR6. Now that would be true commitment to its predecessor
but then ppl wouldnt buy the A5 or S5.. Right now its a hard sell why arteon when u could go A5.
leonsam84 I agree with you 100%
@@leonsam84 Because the Arteon is bigger than the A5.
@@leonsam84both the A5 and S5 are now turbo charged. A naturally aspirated R32 V6 would be fun to drive
Last year I had the same debate between Stinger and Arteon. I went for the Arteon, much smoother ride and the much larger backseat room. My kids appreciate the larger backseat room.
Looks like a great all rounder.
“VW, has a great history!”
How did VW start?
Oh, Hitler started them loool
...so?
That’s why he said a great history
@@FumeAbuse mhm
A simple Google search will show he did not.
He did not just help create the company, he actually sketched the Beetle himself working with Porsche…
But then the war came and then it was over… the VW plant was in the British sector and in the basement of the bomb damaged factory were enough parts to do a production run of cars. The British army supervised the manufacture and German workers who needed jobs and food to eat built the cars and they sold them, using the money to buy the next round of parts and lineally financed the restart of the company this way… and step by step built VW into the powerhouse it is today…
So yes the beginnings were totally ties to Hitler and the Nazi Party but the rebirth has in very real terms been a German Success story with the initial help from and by the British Army, very entrepreneurial and old fashioned hard work…
Spoiler alert… I am a JEW… My family lost dozens to the theft and murder of the Holocaust. My Grandfather refused to buy a German car after the war and for the balance of his life.. but Germany today is not Germany of yesterday, Germany has basically donated a fleet of Dolphin Submarines to the State of Israel which are Israels secure second strike capability that effectively guarantees the survival of the Jewish State… My Mother - who was nine years old when the Nazis marched into her home town owns a Volkswagen… I own a Mercedes… Germany today is NOT Germany of yesterday… and neither is Volkswagen. Its beginnings are not its present or its future… If MY Mother can own and drive a VW… well then everyone can get past how the company was founded and by whom…
-Dan Abraham Erlich
I've driven the Arteon when I had my car in the shop and oh my god that car is so nice, it quiets any bumps completely, you don't feel anything not even the vibration much less the bump itself, it's fun to drive much more than they say, and the safety features are really good, let's just say it stop me from slamming into someone's rear end
I’m driving one right now while my Passat is in the shop. I told the service tech that was a clever little plan to get me to just buy the Arteon. He laughed.
This is most definitely the best car review channel on YT... Hands down... keep up the great work!!!
Had a Stinger GT in New Zealand for a week and I was very impressed with it. Great comfort, easy to drive, great adaptive cruise control, lane assist, android/apple thing and lot of space with high quality interior. One thing I didn't like was the economy (it just gulps petrol and requires 95) and noise above 115km/h which really surprised me. Otherwise a wonderful car to live with.
You bite with the features of kia, the suspension and engine of kia was average
@@jericlamb2676 You drive a Kia Rio. How is the 3.3t average? It beats Mustang 5.0's and Dodge SRT-8s...
@@user-ie8ud3qw9m n middle east hyundai/kia carried hollow blocks, ur crap stinger
can do it too, lexus still king when it comes to reliability, the road here in ph many potholes cant survived the stinger and no spare parts avail
@@jericlamb2676 There is nothing average about the Stinger GT2, and I own a Lexus GS 350.
@@jericlamb2676 An engine built by an ex BMW engineer, that things a beast!
This channel is way underrated, I coy see you guys having your own show lol
Chrome ™ this is their show.
Chrome - how is it "underrated" ?? They have over 340k subscribers
YoungMan4Quickie they are a huge hater haha
@@chocolatewheelchair lol
Imho, James makes the show... Thomas can be replaced and I wouldn't miss him one bit.
Throttle House = New Top Gear.
These guys need their own TV show. Netflix would do well to sign these guys
If the ARTEON came with the VW/AUDI based 2.5L 5CYL(the upper TRIM) that's in the RS3 or TT/RS... WOOOOO!! THAT WOULD BE WORTH IT
Yeah TTRS drivetrain would be awesome for this chassis
Yes. I love the 2.0 TSI (edited from 'EA888' for clarity - though I do believe that is what's in here), but I feel like it doesn't belong in a car of this size and price. Sure, it's a comfort/touring car, but it's begging for more hp/tq (well, potential buyers would be for sure).
Edit: Also, I don't really get why they'd go with a detuned or smaller turbo on this flagship. This is a boat, it should at least have the Golf R numbers.
Any car with that legendary engine would be a good buy
@@elikinzie23throw it in a kia soul
I think a 3.0T from audi a6 tuned to around 350 hp would be abetter fit, but if that was the case, y buy pay more for an audi...i see y they kept the 2.0T. I have driven the arteon and for me personally, it did feel underpowered
I would go for the Stinger GT
It has a V6 and more fun to drive
The Arteon is a good looking car tho
BASITH PH vw is trash.
@@chocolatewheelchair grow up
2409_ AS lol they are criminal trash. Sorry.
Its a V4 not a V6
@@mr.zoonpolitikon1114 the stinger is v6.
I have a 2022 Stinger GT-Line AWD and look forward to driving it every day. For $42,000 you get a great car with all the bells and whistles. So far I have 12k trouble-free miles. My dealership in Stamford is professional and friendly. I had two Optima Turbos before this and they were both trouble free and all I ever did was change the oil. They never needed servicing.
Lol “Let’s talk about my stinger”
“Why does that sound dirty”
Because it’s a Kia who like Kia no one they are just debaged Audi which is sad get a Volvo you thank me later
yonda ila but the truth is, you are not affordable for that stinger
@@Yondaily r/swoosh
@@usernonameee lol that's the fact!
Honestly Yes it's a Kia but man it's a beautiful car.
Here in America, as a Kia Motors U.S. salesman, the Stinger GT2 is what James is driving. The color is called Ceramic Silver. The wheels are styled different than the ones we have here, and we don’t offer 19 inch wheels. Everything else is about the same actually, but it’s very cool to see the differences among the two countries and what they offer.
To avoid damaging your wheels and blowing out tires going over potholes, you must inflate the tires to 36 or 38 pounds. I find that these configurations handled the potholes much better and you almost never damage the tire or the wheels
Or you can just make sure that you've installed common sense wheels and tires on your car, because I'm actually the one in charge, not the car manufacturer.
How does this channel only have 481k subs?! I like Doug DeMuro, but this content is sooo byond that. Hope you guy's get your own top-gear ;)
They're almost double that now! Hurrah.
their content is miles beyond dougs snarky reviews
I cannot watch Doug anymore. He is just so annoying and provides very little actual car content and just stupid comments about cupholders and crap like that
I feel like they are the Top Gear of UA-cam. And yeah, I agree they deserve a bit more subs than Demuro. I get tired if hearing about his quirks.
@@LetsDIYIt he didn’t know what a graphic equaliser was in a 1980,s car, so he’s not really a car guy
I’ve literally watched this videos like 10+ times and still keep watching it. Love the Kia stinger and can’t wait to buy the 2021 stinger when I’m out of school
you mean you cant wait for your parents to buy it for you lmao
tice hahaha NO! By school I meant college
@@devambhagat3478 buy a used 2020 model. its so much cheaper plus you get all the improvements from the first two years, and they arent making any major changes from the 2020 one. I have a 2020 gt2 and couldn't be happier.
TRITON honestly I was thinking about a 2020 or a 21 bc I’m graduating in ‘23 so that car will have time to depreciate lol. But that’s nice to hear that u love your car👍🏽
@@juneauclassic I agree with both ideas, I like the 2021 better, but I would buy a 2020 also.
I love the way you guys do car reviews and the production value is excellent. I even watch your reviews on cars I have no interest in because they are so good. I’m not sure how many people would actually cross-shop these two cars because, other than size and price, they have a different mission. I’m a fan of VAG products but lean towards their sportier offerings, but if I were forced to choose between these two, I’ll take the Stinger please.
Amazing. You guys are incredible. Loved how you were obviously proud of the fact that you managed to get both cars to be the same price.
Bought a 2021 Arteon SEL R-Line FWD a month ago. Just got back from a 3K mile trip and didn't see another one on the road but saw plenty of the Kia. German exclusivity. I had many people give good comments about the car.
- "Born from the ashes of the old CC": is so to the point!!! Nice one, like for that
I give credits to both brands for making such (in my opinion) good looking lift backs 🔥
Trunk lid on the Stinger was likely set to only open about half way. It can go all the way up if you change the settings. The reason is in case you park in a low ceiling place, the lid won't hit.
"I'm tired of having a V10 screaming behind me.." ooookay :P
Canadians. They are born metrosexual. The manly chromosome is removed before birth.
He was being sarcastic and immediately laughed and admitted "V10s for life". Did you miss that part? How?
@@eleonik76 He's English.... did that escape your notice? The sarcasm did.
@@JS-hw8ve I am not good with sarcasm,my wife is.
@@eleonik76 clearly not very good at critical thinking either
"No...V10's for life, obviously..." LOL 🤣
Drove both.. bought the stinger.. instant classic.. love my decision and love driving it.. awesome car..
I did not drive the Kia stinger when I bought my Arteon but I have a friend who got a GT2 stinger and really likes it, I just got the VW because it was just a little bit more comfortable and the digital display both for the gauge cluster and infotainment are really intuitive and really nice and have aged well.
Sooo, that's what I'm suffering from, Kiarrhea... 🤣 But my Stinger still puts a smile on my face every single time I drive it. 😎
EDIT: at the very end of the video, Thomas says that the hatchback in the Stinger didn't work (@12:55). It didn't, simply because Thomas pulled up on it instead of letting it go up by itself. And the safety feature stops the electric motors as soon as something hits, or forces the hatch up or down. Same thing in the Arteon (@13:33).
Just the thumbnail made me smile. Haven’t watched it yet but they’re both on my list of possible replacements for next summer. Thanks guys.
I love my stinger gt2 I have 14000 miles on it. It’s amazing. I did have a rotor problem. At 12thousand miles They covered it in full. It’s tight. Fast. And beautiful. I’d buy another one for sure. Don’t know what’s his problem but must be something.
How is the sound system on it?
@@JadaEbong Sound system is fantastic, the DSP effects are just brilliant.
I heard about this rotor problem multiple times
You were all in on the stinger. What’s the experience been like over the last two years??
The fact that you guys mentioned IWC Schaffhausen & A. Lange & Söhne when you were talking about the clock made me love this channel that much more!
"Dont curse at me" LOL
Thomas is a watch guy!
They both look great....but...Stinger all the way 👍🏽👌🏽
What why?
yonda ila better performance, better looking
@@Yondaily Why? lol really? have u seen the history on VW reliability?
This was a really well made video. I watch a lot of car videos and this was one of my favorites in a while, really enjoyable with all the information you want. Well Done.
Thanks for putting the MPG on the screen :)
Corn Pop I thank them for using the right system in the first place *shots fired*
it is probably US mpg not UK
@@papn123 Ohhh no come back, Shots taken.
Stinger is good looking different futuristic car until Arteon arrives !
That VW just look badass villain car from 70s but modern in its core !
I will chose Arteon in a heartbeat but in Stone Grey or in Jet Black with Navy blue interiors !
I own one for that reason
As a dad, I finally put my pride to the side and made the best value purchase and bought a Stinger GT2, ghost grey with red interior
My wife said my next car had to be a 5-seater.
So I bought a Stinger. Atomic Blue.
Three kids to transport in style!
@Alastors_minion I'm very happy with it.
Alastors_minion I love it, not many people know what it is which I think is awesome . Turns a lot of heads and feels very luxurious with the red interior
I think the Buick regal (Opel insignia) Sportback would be a more legit competitor for the arteon. the Stinger is simply a class above, more a competitor for the A5/S5.
Noooooo
The Buick Regal's interior doesn't compare well with the Arteon, but it's much less expensive. The best comparison, feature for feature, would be the Arteon and the 4 cylinder Stinger, but that Stinger version would also be thousands of dollars less than the Arteon.
I agree! I would take the Regal over the Arteon in that case. Never been a VW guy but I found this interesting
Ehh, the A5 is quite something else tho.
@@Yondaily Yeeassss.
Kia owner:"Sorry,I don't speak depreciation"
Cliff Wilkins said no one ever
Erm... The Stinger depreciates by the minute 😂
@@samvhell9104 Get a Toyota then.
Every car brand depreciates. Have you checked how much MB cars depreciate?
@@vegarosa69 who cares
This needs an update. The additional 32hp and DSG make a world of difference. I also found the drive modes on the new Arteon make a big difference in how it drives. While less sporty than the Stinger, the 2022 revisions gave the Arteon a real dose of sportiness.
Backed 100%. As a big VW nerd I have driven a 2023 Arteon and it put my ass in the seat real quick, noticeably quicker than the outgoing automatic
The stinger had one last update too and its got a new infotainment system, bigger screen and its faster, which was the only issue with the stinger, they also got rid of the 4 cylinder and diesel versions, its also significantly cheaper now and you can get a used one for around 20k. In my opinion a superior car to the Passat reskin
First video I've ever seen from you guys - great work!
Up until now, I wasn't a fan of the Arteon's styling, but I gotta say... the Chili Red paint, 20-inch graphite turbine wheels, and integrated LED DRLs make the Arteon look quite striking. I like the two-tone leather with the light gray inserts as well. Nicely done, although the MSRP is too high. Luckily there are discounts to be had on these.
The wheels on the Arteon look amazing imo
"Kiarrhea".... you guys are genuinely hilarious! I seem to suffer with the same ailment, undiagnosed, but now I understand it.
God that intro is tooo true about current Kia owners. Being badge snobs about not being a badge snob????
Still much better than VW owners "If you don't love my car, you must be a jealous loser!"
Former Forte SX and current GLI driver. What once was a genuine sentiment of pride in the quality and certainly *value* of Korean-made autos has taken off exponentially since the relative success (especially with enthusiasts) of the Stinger, Veloster N, etc.
I've got a 2018 Stinger 2.0L, and love it. But let's face it, the Kia badge screams "thrifty". And then I recently found Korean badges on eBay for under $70, for the hood, the rear, the four wheels, and the steering wheel. I get asked at least once a week, "What kind of car is that?" 😊
I'd be lying if I said that I didn't dig that.
I think the Kia snobbery is fueled or a consequent result of badge snobs shitting on Kia in general.
@@lmp9726 The only thing worse than the Kia badge is replacement 'K' badges. IMO those are all tacky AF, and the designs don't age well.
First impression James looks small in the VW those seats look huge.
Im a performance addict but that vw is so nice to look at idc what they say
Fuck yea and 280 on the dash like fuck!!!
@@martymr.fittness7746 280kph = 173mph
For the Stinger: try using the Cruise Control as much as possible in town .. even to increase speeds .. this should aid with MPG
D. Ande Ward I agree
D. Ande Ward, I think, generally, people who buy sporty cars aren’t as concerned with getting good fuel economy. Or maybe it’s just me.
Showing love from South Africa
I am too
You guys have internet?
@@varsity2845 oh wow, hehe. Not only internet. The network I'm using (RAIN) soom will be offering 5G.
mbulelo gumede haha that’s awesome. I’m messing with you lo
@@varsity2845 No, we still use carrier pigeons and smoke signals
The Stinger looks better, performs better, nicer from the inside, way more reliable, less expensive to maintain.
Stinger is way better overall.
Dayum that arteon looks good... REALLY good...
The disadvantages of the platform can be clearly seen on the luxury class VW "Arteon":
The Arteon is actually a car made from the Passat and Golf. VW-MQB platform, Modular-Querbau box of a compact car. This also means transverse instead of longitudinally installed engines and 4 cylinders is already over.
Yes it does look amazing
Eric Rodrigues it really does but the price tag hurts
@@haraldschon7794 The RS3 rides on MQB. So what? Just a newer platform.
Am I the only one who doesn't like the back of the Stinger?
Pretty much
Its ok
They need to get another tail lights
It's all subjective. I like the back end. Rear quarter is my fav view of that car. I would never hold someone's opinion against them. You enjoy your ride, i'll enjoy mine. I'm just grateful we have all these choices!! Now the important question - Stinger GT2 or Genesis G80 Sport?
@@chucknorris5141 I love the car though it's hot
My friend bought a used 2019 Stinger 4 cyl. for only 22K. With 255 HP it is plenty fast. No problems with acceleration or performance whatsoever. Plus, he got a great deal! Best investment he ever made.
Kia Ria.......Holy hell that had me cracking up. Great video as always fellas. congrats on the increasing subs, the hard work is paying off.
Ria 🙄 I think you mean rrhea as in diarrhea...
Kevin Hughes ewww
This channel is basically like if Doug Demuro was 2 cool guys from Canada, I like it!
I love Doug, but these guys are definitely way less annoying than Doug lol. He’s just so freakin nitpicky
And with way higher production quality. I'm pretty sure Doug films his videos on an iPhone and has minimal editing.
@@TheIceMurder2 yep, he uses his iphone to make videos
@@TheIceMurder2 true, these guys are great.
@@wristoww nah, Doug is great, its just a different approach to car reviews, I personally enjoy both
i think you guys missed something important on the Arteon. If you go into settings, you can set a custom mode for the dynamic chassis control. There are several stops tighter then the custom mode. It does make a difference.
What?! That makes a world of a difference. I HIGHLY value my 13 Jetta bc of the control it has over the road. Handles even better, now that I built and installed some custom Bilstein struts 😊👌🏾
I love the the look of the arteon. But it does need more! I really think Volkswagen should do an all performance version
just go for a stage 1 and boom 370 HP with 480 NM of torque, that's it
@@Cero_Sesenta and there goes your warranty
@@Cero_Sesentalol no
Do a APR stage one tune, will put you north of 300 hp, also replace the stock DCC dampeners with Bilstein replacements soon to be out. The car is great as is, but with the before mentioned items, it just up the game nicely. You guys are great, lots of tech perspectives, good banter with smart humor, keep it up. You won a subscriber !!
Bilstein for the win! 🙌🏾
Stinger is one of the best cars on the road under $150,000 and it’s almost a third of that price
The VW/Audi 2.0 TSi has had 2 redesigns of it's timing chain tensioner. It's still a time bomb. Lease European; Buy Japanese.
I just traded in my 2006 Jetta 2.0T with barely 200 kms on it and it was going through 9-10 liters of oil between oil changes!! 😭 8000km intervals. Was ALWAYS a massive oil consumer. Great fun to drive when new and buying an extended warranty saved me tons of $$.
I’d never buy another VW/Audi product with the 2 liter motor again. VWs justifications for oil consumption from a turbo engine are totally ridiculous.
There should have been a class action against VW for this awfully designed engine.
I suggest Stinger versus Charger would be another interesting match.
Would be! But price for price a Scat Pack would eat this thing in performance and price.
Well this isn't a boat comparison. Just kidding but i think the Stinger is just better for sportive driving on a curvy landroad. The Charger is a cruiser. But both are fucking heavy.
I own a Stinger GT2 but recently went to California and rented a Dodge Charger RT. Performance wise, the Stinger completely destroys the Charger. That said, the Charger exhaust sounds better and it handled pretty well. I am glad I rented it, had some fun with it on some winding roads. It did reaffirm my choice in the Stinger though. The interior of the Charger is crap compared to the Stinger.
@@dmn2273 you constantly see the awd stingers destroying scat pack chargers from a dig. awd is no joke.
We talking about a charger V6 or?
I feel like the Kia would be cheaper with the upkeep than a Volkswagen In the US
Great review, good interplay with good humor--fascinating for me because I drive a car that's really right between these two. My 2007 Hyundai Azera has punch (for it's day, 263hp), but also all of the room and comfort of the Arteon. Not a hatch, but a huge trunk with fold down seats. High reliability--still concerned about VW electricals. Both cars look better than the Azera, but that's the march of time. And the 13 speaker 600-watt Infiniti isn't bad either. I expect to look into the 2.4 Stinger at some point--after I've put yet another 100k on the Azera. Daughter has a 2012 Kia Soul with 170k on it now, it's been humming since new. Azera is a steal because they depreciated as if they were bad old Hyundais. Not surprised at all to hear about the Stinger and the G70...
Azera is a very good car.
14:36 - “We get contrasting stitching; and extra beeping!”
I died lol
Meee when my passat beeps at 39* degrees 😂😂😂
@@osvaldo8393 bro fr lmfao
People are always going to but the volkswagen due to the slight slight bias towards german cars. I have always had a bad experience with them.
I have a korean stinger and i'm fine with that.😁
I’d take Arteon any day knowing that it has the EA888 engine. I can just tune it to 350hp any day with doing nothing to the stock parts and enjoy the car
Great review fellas as usual! lets go for 500K subscribers! Love the Stinger (minus all the fake vents), would love to see next Mazda 6 in this league. Sportback + inline SIX Skyactive X + AWD :)
If I could have the exterior of the Volkswagen, and the interior and engine of the stinger, my life would be complete
"V10 for life lmao" love these guys!
one the most relevant comparisons that i watched in a looooooooooong time
As someone who drives a Kia, I have to say the Stinger has not aged well. It is a very polarizing design since day one. That said, I'm not Korean bashing because the new Kia design language for their newer cars and upcoming models are super nice. Super nice. The Stinger just harkens to a time when Schreyer and Beirmann just looked at an Audi brochure from 5-10 years ago and just "that looks good; let's use that".
Now their design are garnering other companies to take note, imo. Stinger is only 5-6 years old with a design that would fit in the 2010s.
VW is being very lazy, never upgraded the engine for the CC line since the First Gen....
The 2.0 TSi still has timing chain tensioner problems.
I'll never buy a new age Jetta. I'll just stick with my 2011 2.5L Jetta and turbocharge it.
It is the gen 3 ea888 that's found in the golf gti/r. Believe it has the golf r is38 turbo
It's called emission regulations in the EU. Also, that TSI engine is by far not a reliable engine. Also, the interior is exxxactly the same as in a boring Passat.
I haven't yet sat in a Stinger, but I give it the props for building a "halo car" that makes you reconsider it.
The motor in this per APR the big VW/Audi tuning company said same motor and turbo as Golf R. So it's not the same motor.... Just same displacement.
The opening sketch is so hilarious. I miss these guys but they're staying safe in Canada. About the Stinger, I think I prefer this interior design to the Telluride/2021 Optima. They both have wonderful interiors but I think if they deleted the faux stitching and faux wood, as well as both are implemented, those two would be even more premium looking. The Stinger doesn't have that and looks fine without it. I l really like the Stinger's interior and hope they don't add faux wood, or even real wood, when it is redesigned.
There's no wood in the new one, and I like it.
Kia owners are the only car people on internet who try their best to convince others to buy a Kia 🤣
I wanted to like the Stinger, but loved and bought a Civic Type R. Great comparo. Long live the Hatch (since we don't get wagons).
if only the type R was designed for young adults I would of got one too
The Stinger looks great but that Arteon looks freaking fantastic.
Plus the Arteon has a lot of history and heritage to it. Nobody can buy a Kia, who originally just made below average quality bicycle parts, and think, "Hitler personally created this manufacturer as his dream for a people's car".
arteon got only 4 seaters?
@@bujangterlajak6808 no 5 seater
Arteon is a better looking car, but he Stinger is a better car overall.
depends .. to me the Arteon looks like a squeezed Passat with parts from the box of bricks system VW uses. You find parts from all series of models from Seat, VW, ... all over the place. There's no unique part just used for the flagship only!
21:12 "VW have a great history... *ish" 😂
Starting at 1945 VW has a great history
@@johnbacon4997 1938
Made by Fuhrer xD
@@aashishdhawan3824 By Volk for Volk! TBH though, Volkswagen did nothing wrong.
The Stinger is a real car. Longitudinal layout, a ZF8 Speed transmission, everything else made nice enough. A real car, built to value. They even give you a great warranty and require you to change the oil in intervals that doesn't assume a 6 year vehicle life. You get all the big, important bits right and sacrifice some prestige. The Arteon is the answer to the question "Just how much you can move a compact car upmarket?". Using styling and something you could call patch engineering in which they put expensive engineering patches over the conceptual flaws of building a sports sedan on a compact platform. A car for people that don't know better and probably don't feel the difference. A car that pretends to be something it isn't.
Don't forget the EA888 in the Arteon can make well over 400whp reliability on stock internals FBO + tune and fuel if you ever end up modding it.
Say whaaaaaat? Tell me more!
@@kcgunner8378 yup if you tune this car you can def get way more out of it, I have the same engine in my gti since this exact engine is used across varies models across the vw,Audi, Porsche, etc cars they are more then reliable to mod, engine wise this car can output 400+ whp reliably and safely as far as transmisión goes the Arteon sadly doesn’t get the Loved DSG trans which handled abuse and shifts extremely fast but none the less the Arteon with proper work can be faster then the Kia.
This goes both ways Kia’s are no joke and tuned properly can be pretty damn fast too.
@@Bjcoolman11 thanks! I found the APR tune and I'm gonna get it taken care of!
The stinger's red interior looks absolutely sublime.
Kia Stinger GT is the only Kia i would buy. Looks quality and power !
This Kia with the new k5 front would be awesome. I think the stinger needs a more agresive front. vw repeats the same formula in theirs designs... Nothing new but .. it really works. Arteon looks amazing !
Engineering Explained had the same wheel issue with his Tesla Model 3! The large wheel and low profile tire couldn't handle the pothole.
I owned a 2015 Kia Optima for 6 years, 45k miles (it was stolen and found stripped 5 months ago and is still at the shop), I couldn’t wait this long without a car so I had to make the hard choice of purchasing a new one, and wanted to try out a different car brand (Kia’s are currently very popular to steal) and went with a 2022 Volkswagen Passat. I loved my Kia and never had problems with it, i took it to get serviced 3 weeks before it was stolen and they said I would have to get new tires and front brakes soon.
I’ve had my Passat for 3 months and have loved it so far. Hoping it lasts me for a long time
The Stinger GT has the wiper levels so people who live in freezing winter zones are able to not have them frozen in the full down position.😉
There's always a GOLD Arteon parked next to where i work, and it looks absolutely fantastic.
cause the glaring reflections caused by the "color" blocks your view ;)
The intro yaar... I have watched it 3 times before the review begins. ❣️😂😂 That was so lovely..
I’d take the stinger all day over a fwd biased awd 4 cyl with 100 less horsepower and that fake exhaust 👎
The arteon should not be 50k
Have you ever sat in one?
einsfuenfneun I don’t need to sit in an arteon to know id prefer a much faster better handling car with equal amounts of features
I’d rather not have to tell people I drive a Kia lol
And you can get the 4 cylinder stinger for 30,000 with similar horsepower and I think it looks better than the arteon
KingofPwnage23 yeah
I cannot express how much I love this channel! Keep up the good work guys!!!!
I just wanted to let you know that NOT everyone drives in the sport mode. So I just wanted you to drive the car in comfort mode as well as sport mode for us. There are people that do not use sport mode. I drive in comfort mode. I am glad you said the Arteon drives nicer than the Stringer GT. One notch of refinement, it rides sofer and it is not slow. It has body heft and mass and sophistication. I am glad this was not a performance focus review. So for a review this one of the best reviews I have ever seen. Even though you guys preferred the Kia Stinger I do not feel I could drive it every day after your review. I need a car I can drive every day and so I would prefer the Arteon. I know not to waste time with the Kia now.
Sometimes you wanna be calm
1 second later v10 for life👌🤣
Honestly, if I bought a Kia Stinger, I would probably brag to everyone that I had a Kia Stinger...
Tripp55 the stinger looks so outdated. It looks old
Arteon R-line 4Motion (all wheel drive) it is! Who needs to drive fast daily? Want to get fast, get a helicopter really.
VW are best for daily.
@@RIZFERD Say that after the warranty ;P
Jordan Seaburn not mine
And I do
I remember the first brand new car i ever bought was a '12 Kia Optima SX Turbo with 274 HP. For 30 K new you got alot. Heated/Cooled seats, leather, Infinity Sound System, Navigation, Panaramic Sunroof/Moonroof, etc.. Plus you can with 10 year 100K warranty and 6 year warranty on powertrain So i can only how nice the Stinger GT is.
I recently drove one of those Optimas, a 2014 with 89 kms on it and I honestly thought it was going to fall apart in the road. It was NOT well bolted together. Rattled and shook all over the place.
As a Volvo driver in a family of Kia owners, I'll take the Arteon any day. It may not be as outright sporty or peppy as a Stinger, but the Germans/Swedes just *get it* when it comes to interior design and ergonomics. Our family has mostly Kia Optimas and Fortes, and they're nice cars for the price point, but they can't hold a candle to the European design logic. Also, Kia's dealerships/service centers are AWFUL. I switched to Volvo because A) they're reliable, safe and drive great and B) their dealerships are excellent--far better than any Kia dealership could dream of. Lastly, my best frind services her 2011 Golf (167,000 miles on it) at VW, and the dealership experience with is on par with Volvo and VW's own Audi.
Respect to Kia, the Stinger is a dope car.
Am I the only one who feels like these guys can take the batten from Jezza, Ham and May? They’re funny, one is performance and the other represents us normal simpletons. Much love from South Africa guys 🤜🏾🤛🏾
I love the Stinger. The Harmon Kardon speakers make any song sound good.
I saw a video a couple years ago where someone in the US bought a Stinger and ordered the Korean version of the middle console. It has a lid that covers the cupholders. Makes it look cleaner.