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@@MuhammadAli-dk6dz You don't need an API to read the screen. I'm not a good programmer, but I know how to read the screen to convert a chess board image into a Stockfish save file. In about one hour I wrote a program last week that reads the screen and in about 5 seconds creates a Stockfish save file. Your point was that this bot was very fast, much faster than 5 seconds, but remember I'm a really lame programmer and if I can do it in 5 seconds, others can do it in 0.5 seconds.
What baffles me is how this guy as enough time to do this in a bullet game. I barely have time to make regular moves in bullet games and this mofo has enough time to use an engine? What
@Antun Šturlić Magnus wouldn’t be able to play a perfect K+P endgame while moving every 1.5 seconds. That is physically impossible for a human to do and yes you can tell he is cheating by the fact his blitz was 1900 lower then his bullet and that he was playing at the level that is higher then any grandmaster within that time format, yet he isn’t a titled player.
@Antun Šturlić this is it’s not a new account. He played on it before and was on 700, then after a while of playing at 700 he suddenly jumps to 2900 in the course of a week?
@Antun Šturlić Duuude any of the things above proves he cheats. The only question i have for you is, how can you possibly not see it? Either you're a newbie who doesn't know yet that engines have very recognisable styles of play, or you got caught cheating and still in denial about it.
I dont think so. Dont wanna defend the cringe cheater but there are like 270 players atm with a 2600 FIDE Rating or higher. I dont think Eric knows every GM that is or was 2600+ at some point.
@Bobing: Nope. It wouldn't make sense to ever ask that type of question. I don't think anyone above like 1500 elo would consider asking such a thing. I mean, what kind of question is it anyway?
I know your comment wasn't meant to be serious, but top level chess is actually pretty small, there's only ~1500gm's in the world, and only 200 over 2600, Eric probably knows all of them.
@@Last_Resort991 are you above 2600? Because the amount of time u spend in the game have something to do with the obsesion with rating and improving. Imagine being a relatively strong grandmaster.
@@paoloperona5894 The time you spend really has something to do with the obsession about rating: The more you play the less important is your rating. I'm 2200 btw. Judging from your thesis, I assume you are between 1000-1500.
@@Last_Resort991Sure and thats why u have to claim rating to prove a point. Stop lying to yourself and get real. Do you really believe that someone casually playing earn a GM norm and climb up to 2600 fide rating. You are just ludicrous.
Guy on his profile is polish chess UA-camr Marianczello Dominoni, he is doing great job just as chessbrah does. Shame that this cheater used his face for that scam...
Many people have said in comments that they play bullet exactly for that reason that blitz and rapid are full of cheaters, but this shows that even 1 min doesn't stop them cheating. I was thinking whole time, how is he able to do this, but maybe I don't want anybody to tell, because it probably is easy to arrange and then there are even more cheaters.
@@AnandSivaram22 It would be a great thing. How is it easier to detect them in bullet than in blitz? Many times they can be detected in blitz not only by conformity with engine moves but constant move delays (3-4 seconds) even in positions there is simple capture that could be premoved. This didn't show any of that behavior, as is talked above about automated moves.
@@mikahamari5994 I felt that there was a tempo to his moves early in the bullet games. like every move came at around 1-1.5seconds. however when time was running out you can see that he was blasting off the moves immediately and it was faster and inaccurate. I would expect that at bullet the opening would be blitzed out and not at a measured pace. that's just my gamingchair analysis.
I remember you playing him in blitz before and getting smashed and everyone was confused why an 1100 was crushing you. But you couldn't quite feel sure he was cheating. Glad we got him.
@@alexisbeuve8199 there are softwares that can move for you on chess.com but require more technical knowledge to set up so most cheaters just enter their moves into stock fish manually which is why they play 10 minutes +
If anyone is interested or didn't see this, at 10:00 instead of h:g3 Nf4 is winning. Then Qg2# and Ne2# hangs so the only way to prevent it is g:f4. Next black's move is h3, which again makes Qg2 mate. After Qc6 there is d5. Thanks for reading, good luck and have a nice day
I agree, but I will add that one move earlier he had Qf3 instead of Qxd5 with a double attack (the rook and the pawn push that would create a mating net).
they must have cheats made specifically for chess websites that actually move for you now. he was playing way too fast to just be using an engine on the side. has to be a script or program moving for him.
it's actually fairly easy to program a script to take opponents inputted moves and output them to chess engine and then take engines result for best move and input them back into the chess match.
@@resresres1 i dont think you can write a script to do that in .5 seconds, youre talking hundreds of possibilities per chess move, even if they only dove to 5 levels it would still take much longer than the moves are being played out
Humans have made rockets that can land on their own as well as a helicopter that can fly on its own on Mars. Chess stopped being rocket science for computers all the way back in the 90s. Coincidentally, humans are also very good at cheating and fraud now. What cheaters are using now are basically the same as aimbots. There's more than one video on UA-cam covering this topic.
@@Charles-hf2zn huh? I don't think you realize how the scripts work...you wouldn't need to program every possibility.... Just have to detect what the latest inputted move is for the match, pass it into the engine, detect the outputted move for the engine and then input it into the match. If you have a fairly decent computer you can easily run a engine that can do 12 depth levels and have it calculate in .5 seconds. Even while the script is running.
To dont make it too conspicuous, you can turn the bot on and off several times during a game. If u are good u can reach 3k points but sometimes the bot does insane moves and thats the point they will be caught.
Holy smokes. Eric Drew and almost beat an actual chess bot. Imagine playing against Stockfish with only a minute on your clock and doing that well. I am actually so damn impressed.
@@buddydiamond8736 computers are not magic....everything takes time e.g. it needs time to realize where the pieces are, what move you played, what the valid moves are and then it starts calculating each of these takes milliseconds but they add up on each move. hopefully u learnt something
@@cheburashkacheburashka4257 ok before I run this debate any further since you clearly aren’t familiar with chessbot, I’d encourage you to watch chessbot play on UA-cam at bullet speed and also see its accuracy which is literally stockfish at depth 20.
@@cheburashkacheburashka4257 the point is anyone drawing stockfish at depth 20 is incredible, and doing it at bullet speed is even more impressive. If you gave an average IM 45 minutes against stockfish at depth 20 they wouldn’t do as well as how Eric played at 1 minute so I’d say my statement about how impressive it is stands.
Thanks for posting this. I saw this same account playing against GM Benjamin Finegold a week or two ago, and I know several people reported them. It's unfortunate that it took this long for their account to get closed, but at least action was taken. Thanks again!
@@elijahchurchwell5808 It seems that the engine moves instantly depending on what the opponent plays So basically, the engine has many possibilities of what the opponent may play, and depending on what they do, the engine instantly chooses the best move
@@elijahchurchwell5808 if you set the search depth lower, which will be okay since eric has less time to think (bullet), the computer can find moves almosy instantly
I guess Eric Hansen has met a fan of Marianczello (I think so because of his profile picture, that guy on pic is actually Marianczello himself). Marianczello is the biggest Polish chess youtuber btw
The best thing to prove in cheating is challenge them in the real life on the board. Like Shakhriyar Mamedyarov said:"People whom i keep beating in real life is beating me in the internet chess:
It's pretty impressive how many people chose to comment asking how it is possible to cheat in bullet instead of reading one of the hundred other people asking the same question
It is effect of surprise, because many people have thought that bullet is safe from cheating. I have seen many times people writing that they play bullet because blitz and rapid are full of cheaters. This shows that there is not such safe area.
@@mikahamari5994 Well its much difficulter to dont be caught in bullet i guess. Auto bot to disable one or two times a game is nice to dont get caught early but sometimes they do insane moves u will be caught. Rapid u can choose dont do this insane moves if u know how chess works.
The only cheater in my 500+ games was a gold member. I said I would quit chess.com if they don't ban him because he pays them but they did ban him a week later.
I remember watching this on stream, and when this guy subbed, I was thinking, the balls on this man to have a premium chess account and then sub to chessbrah when you're obviously cheating.... jeeeesus... either that or it was hiki under a fake profile 😂
easy, just make a javascript which moves according to engine :) you can install stockfish localy, set it to output moves as mouse clicks and via the script and feed it info of the opponent moves via chess vision or use the move from chess.com as a pgn
Engines are way too fast. And if you were a cheater is better to cheat at bullet since you get faster wins, you don't have to wait for the opponent. For example in a rapid you maybe have to spend over 10 minutes for a win, that is a lot for those that want wins without thinking. Bullet just is better and less time consuming for getting the rating/wins.
@youcef demdoum no, because you can adjust the time control for the match, or search with a fixed depth, or something similar. Then you code something to automatically input the moves and you are good to go. Even a weak computer can calculate a position to depth 18 in under a second.
From what I can guess, he can program to automatically send what moves his opponent made to a software and then get the best move from the software and make it automatically. There's no way he has another tab open where he manually makes moves, it wouldn't work in Bullet. But then again, StockFish does take a while to calculate the best move but I'm guessing he used some C++ version rather than JavaScript which is slower, and used a smaller depth in configuration.
This is a copy and paste from a comment above explaining it: There is a kind of browser extension, or a software, that allows the people to have an engine set in fixed depth, it could be depth 1 ELO 1500 depth 2 1800 elo depth 3 2200 or maybe fixed depth 8 enough to be like Eric then this script is similar to the flyordie apocalypse software on 2014 where it sends to the screen some arrows to where to instantly moves, allowing the cheater to even do human moves and allowing the user to streaming his screen without showing the arrows because streaming software as xplit allows you to select specify a .exe then if this guys has a .exe script, and not browser script, he can simulate to be a human making mistakes but instantly having answers of where to move in depth 9 or 12 or whatever stockfish can do instantly without delays and mistakes, usually, depth between 9 to 12 so for this reason i said, that in a streaming, the screen and the DISPLAY REAL LIFE SCREEN should be streamed then you will see if he has the arrows watching his real life display through xplit you can ignore the arrows. Hope that helps.
@@ColtsChannel Qc6 is just met by d5, blocking white's queen. White is forced to play Qxd5 since black is still threatening Qg2#, which just leads to white losing their queen for a pawn.
I've never seen someone cheat at bullet before, and at first I was gonna jump in and defend this guy . . . but after a minute of thought I realized that opening up another tab to input the move against an engine there is a really dumb way to cheat. It would be relatively easy to build some overlay that could point out the best move on the real board in real time. This would be a much more . . . efficient method than the tried and true open up another tab technique. I figured if such an overlay existed, it would likely be in the form of a Chrome extension, so I got curious and did some research. And, oh boy, not only is there such an extension . . . there are DOZENS of them. They vary from hilariously bad to good but impractical to scarily effective. Here's a few I found, discussed for your entertainment and for science (for SCIENCE ONLY, guys! To defend my ass against public scorn, I'll mention I tried each of these out in 1-2 bullet games to review them before un-installng them (except Chess Compass, which is actually pretty nice for analysis!), and had a policy of resigning each game I played when the extensions actually worked [although I confess I won two games with the first one that worked as it was before I decided to test all of them and write a post about it.]) BROKEN/NONFUNCTIONAL: GB Chessextension -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-chess-posit/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld?hl=en ChessMaster -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chess-master/ahanamijdbohnllmkgmhaeobimflbfkg?hl=en I don't know if it's something wrong with my computer or if I didn't set them up right, but these just didn't work at all. I got a blank overlay from one of them and the other didn't appear to do anything at all. GOOD for analysis, BAD for cheating (at least in bullet time control): ChessVision.ai (endorsed by Ben Finegold, wowee!) --chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-chess-posit/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld?hl=en Chess Compass -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chess-compass-free-online/djkdhnacahocjglfmgdkcogbmnhholch?hl=en ChessVision is just way too slow to account for the kind of cheating used in the video. It could be used to cheat in blitz pretty effectively, though. Chess Compass is even safer. It can't be used to analyze the game in real-time, so it's basicaly an extra analysis board to use after the game. CHEATING ENABLED: Chess.com Next Move -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chesscom-next-move/ieaoeokfilgofofpdcehmgokenlnbdaa?hl=en ChessOnSteroids -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessonsteroids/cmpjnbjbkjmmppgbbejhokpehdbpfgpo These two literally give you the next move, in real time, using an engine described as "Strong", but "human-like". The main difference being that Next Move gives you a PGN notated recommendation, while ChessOnSteroids HIGHLIGHTS the best move on the board with lightning speed. • Handy in your chess improvements. • Could be used for understanding games of strong GMs as it also suggests moves in spectator mode. Definitely totally NOT to be used for CHEATING. HOW COULD YOU EVEN THINK THAT?? I would bet good money that this guy was using one of these two extensions, most likely ChessOnSteroids, as the highlighted move overlay allows you to cheat VERY quickly. IMPORTANT: I do not endorse or condone cheating by any of you guys in any context on chess.com, but I found it pretty interesting and entertaining to see all the available programs. Yes, that makes me a hypocrite for trying them out, and no, that doesn't give you a free pass. But I don't see anything wrong with trying these programs out with a willing friend, or using them for game analysis. I also recommend ChessBrah doing a video on them! It's interesting to see the dark side of chess cheating engines.
He's so polite to the cheater. Canadians are too nice. I heard one time that a Canadian tried roasting a chicken but it came out raw because the Canadian just couldn't roast it 🥺
One day while pumping iron, his endorphin levels rose so high that the gates of chess Nirvana opened before him. Unfortunately he only had time to steal the bullet codex from the divine temple, before the gates slammed shut, returning him to his massive, sweating bulk, trembling on the gym floor..
Eric knows those points will be refunded, so the match is a free roll. He keeps the points on wins + all the lost points and ends up netting the points from the wins.
@@PreservationEnthusiast I know. It is a meme or running gag. I can't explain it in English, but here are two examples. (if there are too much sound effects) Cutter: How much sound effects do you like? Artist: Yes. Hairdresser: Do you like short or long hair? Ava Max: Yes. (if you know her hair cut you understand)
@@NetzKaiser You are using "Yes" as an answer to mean either something very extreme or something in between, or both things together. It doesn't seem to be hugely funny even if I heard it once. But, you are using this "joke" after it has been used 100 million times on You Tube. In the light of that, considering the need for originality of jokes, do you still think it is still a funny joke.
@@NetzKaiser It is your problem because it is an old phrase. You are just following another person's idea like a sheep. Chess players are thinkers... you can do better.
stupid cheaters: 1- offer draw 2-take time to capture a queen with a pawn! 3-play 3 second per move 4-ask if they are good 5-do not play some random moves to not get 99% accuracy 6-have 100% win rate 7-play opening really slow smarter cheaters: 8-play Ultra aggressively for example by sacing a piece just to open the king side because they know the engine will find a solution 9-usually use a program or an add-on to help them 10-do not trade pieces even if engine suggests it 11- before it comes to flagging part of blitz or bullet they intentionally hang a piece so they can resign, or they rage quit or just resign 12-play weird openings like fried fox defense!
@Khaled Exactly. I know one in particular. It's called Acid Ape Chess. I know because I have the application on my phone. I use it to analyze complex attacking positions. But yeah, it has a feature where you can essentially just plug it into ICC, Lichess, Chess.com, chess24 and play at a lower ELO and not be discovered. You're not using depth 26+ or something crazy, just around 2400 rating range. Best way to identify a cheater especiay if they are at the same rating as you....you don't see any way to get an advantage. They outplay you completely, exactly how it happened to Eric.
Isn't there a possibility that the account ban could be attributed to him admitting on chat that he is using a Smurf account? I feel the "fair play violation" is way too big am umbrella for all the illegal stuff that can be done. Chess com and lichess should own up their actions and just say that they blocked the account because they thought that the account was cheating.
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@@MuhammadAli-dk6dz You don't need an API to read the screen. I'm not a good programmer, but I know how to read the screen to convert a chess board image into a Stockfish save file. In about one hour I wrote a program last week that reads the screen and in about 5 seconds creates a Stockfish save file. Your point was that this bot was very fast, much faster than 5 seconds, but remember I'm a really lame programmer and if I can do it in 5 seconds, others can do it in 0.5 seconds.
@Andrei Skorobogatykh then d5 and it has to give up the queen
Dude was out there building habits that's how he got 2300 elo in a month. Congratz to Aman, his series work.
Aman created a monster 😔 May the lord protect us
Thank you.
@Some random guy i know, i know Aman hambleton. It is just that our names are same so i joked.
What baffles me is how this guy as enough time to do this in a bullet game. I barely have time to make regular moves in bullet games and this mofo has enough time to use an engine? What
@Some random guy that still doesnt explain it, he has to plug in opponent moves into the engine.
The fact that he got a membership for the account and was cheating on it is just bravery to the next level
testosterone and alcohol does a lot
hehe .you got him
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@@SunlightSentinel please me
@SebaaaG Ohh Idk that :D
Him asking "Am I good?" was a more obvious sign of cheating than any move he played
Yeah lol
@Antun Šturlić I feel like you're trying to be smart but don't speak English.
@Antun Šturlić Magnus wouldn’t be able to play a perfect K+P endgame while moving every 1.5 seconds. That is physically impossible for a human to do and yes you can tell he is cheating by the fact his blitz was 1900 lower then his bullet and that he was playing at the level that is higher then any grandmaster within that time format, yet he isn’t a titled player.
@Antun Šturlić this is it’s not a new account. He played on it before and was on 700, then after a while of playing at 700 he suddenly jumps to 2900 in the course of a week?
@Antun Šturlić Duuude any of the things above proves he cheats. The only question i have for you is, how can you possibly not see it?
Either you're a newbie who doesn't know yet that engines have very recognisable styles of play, or you got caught cheating and still in denial about it.
The funniest thing is how cheaters don't know that at such a high level everyone knows each other IRL lmao
That is just not true...
it's also easy for GM's to spot their insane move accuracy
I dont think so.
Dont wanna defend the cringe cheater but there are like 270 players atm with a 2600 FIDE Rating or higher. I dont think Eric knows every GM that is or was 2600+ at some point.
Mans played a perfect move every 1.5 seconds in a k+p endgame but couldn't premove a forced mate in 3
@@EpvpHaxball Country (Poland) already restricts it so much that hed know everyone
Not only did he got his acc banned, Eric also finessed this guy a sub
@@GarryMan-mp3rx he got his rating back after the guy got banned
Big Stonks
Check the account the sub came in from...and checkmate!
Secure the sub then secure the ban. Tactics
@@AT-qm8gv He may not have blundered the game, but he blundered his $5
I also claim to be a 2600 once I figure out how the horsey moves.
The horse can move to the drippiest 💎 square within 4 squares
Upvoted just for the name and profile pic 👌😂😂😂
@@finwarman9887 fr 💯💯🥶🥶
Your comment betrays your lack of knowledge of chess. They're not called horses, they're knives. They're called knives because they win with forks.
@@pokerandphilosophy8328 Okay, fun pooper.
I want to know if there has ever been a 2600 player asking a GM on his chat "am I good?". That would be so funny
lmao if he actually was 2600 fide he'd be a gm himself easily
@@ericzhang5830 magnus played neck to neck with engine and won by time
😂😂😂
@Bobing: Nope. It wouldn't make sense to ever ask that type of question. I don't think anyone above like 1500 elo would consider asking such a thing. I mean, what kind of question is it anyway?
@@PHeMoX yeah I know, that's why I said this would be very funny
How to expose cheaters by eric:
Soooooo, what’s your name?
😂
That's a really massive counterattack from Eric.
😂 😂 😂
Advantages of being famous
I know your comment wasn't meant to be serious, but top level chess is actually pretty small, there's only ~1500gm's in the world, and only 200 over 2600, Eric probably knows all of them.
He's obviously just mastered the art of tempo
I know that reference
@@christopherw1248 lol
In all of life there's a rhythm.
@@christopherw1248 please reming me
@@AllGamingCrew dewa kipas
When your peak rating is over 2600, you don't say "like 2600." You know the exact number, when it was that high, and who you beat to get it that high.
Not necessary after 7 years. I didn't play for only a year now bc of covid and already don't know my exact rating.
@@Last_Resort991 You most likely didn’t make chess such a priority in your life that you became master though..
@@Last_Resort991 are you above 2600? Because the amount of time u spend in the game have something to do with the obsesion with rating and improving. Imagine being a relatively strong grandmaster.
@@paoloperona5894 The time you spend really has something to do with the obsession about rating: The more you play the less important is your rating. I'm 2200 btw. Judging from your thesis, I assume you are between 1000-1500.
@@Last_Resort991Sure and thats why u have to claim rating to prove a point. Stop lying to yourself and get real. Do you really believe that someone casually playing earn a GM norm and climb up to 2600 fide rating. You are just ludicrous.
Against a bot: Is this theory?
yes! it is now :D
Bot's reply:
01101101 01100001 01111001 01100010 01100101
Eric is incapable of breathing without asking if its theory
@@brandondaniels9471 Lmao
Guy on his profile is polish chess UA-camr Marianczello Dominoni, he is doing great job just as chessbrah does. Shame that this cheater used his face for that scam...
That title sounds like it's straight out of a Dhar Mann video.
LMFAOOOO
"A cheater plays aganist a grandmaster to, instantly regrets it"
DHAR MANN!!! OOOOOOOOO-
That's so true lol
LMAOOOOO
I naively thought one can't simply cheat in bullet. Welp, this proves me completely wrong.
Many people have said in comments that they play bullet exactly for that reason that blitz and rapid are full of cheaters, but this shows that even 1 min doesn't stop them cheating. I was thinking whole time, how is he able to do this, but maybe I don't want anybody to tell, because it probably is easy to arrange and then there are even more cheaters.
@@victorshilin9360 I totally agree. There was no delay in his moves, so the input from engine must be direct.
good thing is you can detect cheaters way easily than in blitz..however, the bots are getting better at deception by day
@@AnandSivaram22 It would be a great thing. How is it easier to detect them in bullet than in blitz? Many times they can be detected in blitz not only by conformity with engine moves but constant move delays (3-4 seconds) even in positions there is simple capture that could be premoved. This didn't show any of that behavior, as is talked above about automated moves.
@@mikahamari5994 I felt that there was a tempo to his moves early in the bullet games. like every move came at around 1-1.5seconds. however when time was running out you can see that he was blasting off the moves immediately and it was faster and inaccurate. I would expect that at bullet the opening would be blitzed out and not at a measured pace. that's just my gamingchair analysis.
I love how Eric never actually accuses anyone of cheating, even when he knows they are
Innocent until banned.
I don't understand how someone is able to cheat in bullet. There is no time to input the moves into a computer
@@nothosaur they have a software that makes the moves for them.
@@pureshka I’m really curious why these guys play games they’re not even actually playing 🤦♂️🤦♂️
3:04 ?
If my peak was 2600 fide, I won’t ask anyone if I’m good.
I would be damn proud to say my name.
He is both smart and modest.
I remember you playing him in blitz before and getting smashed and everyone was confused why an 1100 was crushing you. But you couldn't quite feel sure he was cheating. Glad we got him.
He was sure from the very beginning, since it was obvious. He was just baiting the guy for content.
Also it isn’t fair to outright accuse someone of cheating without proof because of the small chance that they aren’t
@@Chiny_w_Pigulce how can you cheat on bullet ?
@@alexisbeuve8199 well I don't know but this guy sure manages to do so.
@@alexisbeuve8199 there are softwares that can move for you on chess.com but require more technical knowledge to set up so most cheaters just enter their moves into stock fish manually which is why they play 10 minutes +
If anyone is interested or didn't see this, at 10:00 instead of h:g3 Nf4 is winning. Then Qg2# and Ne2# hangs so the only way to prevent it is g:f4. Next black's move is h3, which again makes Qg2 mate. After Qc6 there is d5.
Thanks for reading, good luck and have a nice day
Super
i'd go with h3 first but same result
I agree, but I will add that one move earlier he had Qf3 instead of Qxd5 with a double attack (the rook and the pawn push that would create a mating net).
they must have cheats made specifically for chess websites that actually move for you now. he was playing way too fast to just be using an engine on the side. has to be a script or program moving for him.
Gambitron
it's actually fairly easy to program a script to take opponents inputted moves and output them to chess engine and then take engines result for best move and input them back into the chess match.
@@resresres1 i dont think you can write a script to do that in .5 seconds, youre talking hundreds of possibilities per chess move, even if they only dove to 5 levels it would still take much longer than the moves are being played out
Humans have made rockets that can land on their own as well as a helicopter that can fly on its own on Mars. Chess stopped being rocket science for computers all the way back in the 90s. Coincidentally, humans are also very good at cheating and fraud now. What cheaters are using now are basically the same as aimbots. There's more than one video on UA-cam covering this topic.
@@Charles-hf2zn huh? I don't think you realize how the scripts work...you wouldn't need to program every possibility.... Just have to detect what the latest inputted move is for the match, pass it into the engine, detect the outputted move for the engine and then input it into the match. If you have a fairly decent computer you can easily run a engine that can do 12 depth levels and have it calculate in .5 seconds. Even while the script is running.
The more important question is how was this guy able to cheat for so long? It seems people only get banned when playing a streamer.
To dont make it too conspicuous, you can turn the bot on and off several times during a game. If u are good u can reach 3k points but sometimes the bot does insane moves and thats the point they will be caught.
@@marcelmattern7722 you are a disgrace. Stop using an engine.
By limiting how many moves ahead the bot can calculate
@@marcelmattern7722 you just can't do that in bullet chess lol, it's bullet, not rapid..
@@amoldivo You can, a lot of bullet cheaters use chess-bot software.
Holy smokes. Eric Drew and almost beat an actual chess bot. Imagine playing against Stockfish with only a minute on your clock and doing that well. I am actually so damn impressed.
u do realize that the less time there is the higher his chances are?
@@cheburashkacheburashka4257 you do realize that Stockfish engines don’t require any time to think at depths up to 20+ right?
@@buddydiamond8736 computers are not magic....everything takes time e.g. it needs time to realize where the pieces are, what move you played, what the valid moves are and then it starts calculating each of these takes milliseconds but they add up on each move. hopefully u learnt something
@@cheburashkacheburashka4257 ok before I run this debate any further since you clearly aren’t familiar with chessbot, I’d encourage you to watch chessbot play on UA-cam at bullet speed and also see its accuracy which is literally stockfish at depth 20.
@@cheburashkacheburashka4257 the point is anyone drawing stockfish at depth 20 is incredible, and doing it at bullet speed is even more impressive. If you gave an average IM 45 minutes against stockfish at depth 20 they wouldn’t do as well as how Eric played at 1 minute so I’d say my statement about how impressive it is stands.
Eric playing chess against stockfish: is this theory?
Stockfish: no, but it is now!
This is forced checkmate in 53 moves.
@@u.v.s.5583 haha
this guy didnt use stockfish, in the ends of games eric blundered queen etc a lot of time stockfish would take it
Dude made up a backstory and everything lol
I love how he thought that he actually had Eric fooled and gifted a sub trying to be friendly with him
He's climbing faster than the building habits account
I have to say Eric kept it classy the whole time. Cool, collected, and managed to smile.
Thanks for posting this. I saw this same account playing against GM Benjamin Finegold a week or two ago, and I know several people reported them. It's unfortunate that it took this long for their account to get closed, but at least action was taken. Thanks again!
Legends say that chessbrah will receive death threats if the player was Indonesian.
careful they're watching
We're here already
dewakipas is not a cheater...
he only use engine while playing.. and that is legal..
for indon people..😂😂😂
he will recieve kurwa pierdole threads instead
the flag is upside down indonesian flag
You just don’t understand the mature soul of a father
This is What happen when the opponent is too strong:
- Engine or Magnus
If it's Magnus there's usually a drinking pun in the user name.
He moves on a complete metronome. Almost exact same move time on obvious moves and the most complex moves. Blatant.
Didn't know was possible to cheat on bullet...at this point you don't even move the pieces, you just watch a game IRL
Yeah can you explain how he cheated? It seems that he obviously did, but can you tell me how, it seemed too fast for an engine
@@elijahchurchwell5808 It seems that the engine moves instantly depending on what the opponent plays
So basically, the engine has many possibilities of what the opponent may play, and depending on what they do, the engine instantly chooses the best move
@@elijahchurchwell5808 if you set the search depth lower, which will be okay since eric has less time to think (bullet), the computer can find moves almosy instantly
Guys there is a program "chessbotx" check this on youtube you will see. This program is going to end of internet chess i think
This dude climbed from 20th percentile to 99.9999th percentile in two days that's amazing
its called hard work bro
I dont understand this video. Most of xhess cheaters take like 10 seconds per move, how come this cheater play so fast??
@@notsofriendlyneighborcat6030 he's a real pro
Marianczello is going to love this shit.
I guess Eric Hansen has met a fan of Marianczello (I think so because of his profile picture, that guy on pic is actually Marianczello himself). Marianczello is the biggest Polish chess youtuber btw
I love how these cheaters come up with backstories like who are you trying to impress?
Are you sure he isn't Dewa Kipas?
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dewa kipas but polish
@@mr_m3d dewa kipas but flag is reversed
Everybody gangsta until Eric starts asking your name
"am i good?" cheaters always looking for validation.
The best thing to prove in cheating is challenge them in the real life on the board.
Like Shakhriyar Mamedyarov said:"People whom i keep beating in real life is beating me in the internet chess:
@Antun Šturlić I'm really not sure about that. I think most people are banned for good reasons, I've never heard of legit sane people being banned
@Antun Šturlić You can establish a concrete case without irrefutable proof.
@Antun Šturlić Except you just gave him attention...are you dumb or something?
f5 is a massive KO , this guy definitely has a WIDE shaft KEKW
Sup salty
@@bestinjames3518 hey man, u on twitch? what's ur twitch handle brah?
What's up salty
Oh, how I love Eric's handling of situations like this. In such a pro, calm, modern and a friendly way.
It's pretty impressive how many people chose to comment asking how it is possible to cheat in bullet instead of reading one of the hundred other people asking the same question
It is effect of surprise, because many people have thought that bullet is safe from cheating. I have seen many times people writing that they play bullet because blitz and rapid are full of cheaters. This shows that there is not such safe area.
@@mikahamari5994 Well its much difficulter to dont be caught in bullet i guess. Auto bot to disable one or two times a game is nice to dont get caught early but sometimes they do insane moves u will be caught. Rapid u can choose dont do this insane moves if u know how chess works.
Here I am stuck at 800-1200 for years and some guy just hits 2900 in a few weeks amazing!
He must be a savant.
skill issue
How can you be stuck at that level? If you start doing some puzzles and study 2 opening you can reach at least 1700
“He’s a paying member so he’s legit”
The only cheater in my 500+ games was a gold member. I said I would quit chess.com if they don't ban him because he pays them but they did ban him a week later.
Cheaters ruin things for everyone, and need to be exposed at every opportunity.
Yup, and publicly shamed so it is a deterrent for future cheaters to cheat.
ten marianczello na profilowym XD
XD
Ale to raczej nie jego konto.
@@MrKrychuuu No co tyyyy???? Nieeeeeee, nie możliwe
Jak zobaczyłem to się zesrałem
I too used to be a 1000ELO player like you, then I took Stockfish to the knee
In case someones wondering, The guy in the profile Picture is a known Polish chess youtuber: Marianczello Dominoni
Lol I just love how clean and punchy the appearance of the "account is suspended" screenshot is each time. Especially coupled with the music.
I remember watching this on stream, and when this guy subbed, I was thinking, the balls on this man to have a premium chess account and then sub to chessbrah when you're obviously cheating.... jeeeesus... either that or it was hiki under a fake profile 😂
He is part of Pooja’s chess club
?
Free Pooja
@@peorakef another cheater from one of eric's popular vids
@@joet8218 ty
🤣🤣 Free Pooja
He has a profile picture of a Polish chess youtuber xd
To jego konto?
@@MrWuYo nie
Polska górą!!👍
My favourite line from Eric is “is this theory”
I thought bullet was a safe sanctuary from cheaters? How can someone cheat and move so fast?
easy, just make a javascript which moves according to engine :) you can install stockfish localy, set it to output moves as mouse clicks and via the script and feed it info of the opponent moves via chess vision or use the move from chess.com as a pgn
@@Alkuf100 Thx. Looks like online chess is doomed as this tech will become easier.
Engines are way too fast. And if you were a cheater is better to cheat at bullet since you get faster wins, you don't have to wait for the opponent. For example in a rapid you maybe have to spend over 10 minutes for a win, that is a lot for those that want wins without thinking. Bullet just is better and less time consuming for getting the rating/wins.
When I was watching this stream I was laughing thinking it was Hikaru on another alt... too bad I didn't stick around to watch the rest :(
Whats your name?
Stockfish
Oh yeah I think we’ve played each other before
@youcef demdoum no, because you can adjust the time control for the match, or search with a fixed depth, or something similar. Then you code something to automatically input the moves and you are good to go. Even a weak computer can calculate a position to depth 18 in under a second.
Whoa! I didn't know it's possible to cheat in bullet matches.😵
His grandfather was a grandmaster that immigrated from Pakistan, the chess genes are after you eric
I don’t understand how these idiots have fun by cheating, or is it just fun because it ruins other people’s experience?
People that cheat are so pathetic honestly, take the time to appreciate and learn the beautiful game.
Dewa Kipas starting working out and dyed his hair blonde
Mastered the art of tempo
Also flipped his country's flag
He is not on the picture, on the picture is Marianczello, polish famous youtuber and this guy was a cheater
Marianczello in the avatar xD Nice guy
Bertikox played a bullet game with 56 moves at a 97.7 accuracy at a 3050 level. Don’t they know how obvious that is
doesnt even premove when its very obvious trades lol, and has the guts to talk to him in chat, PSYCHO
How tf can he cheat on bullet, sry I don’t have experience in cheating
That’s what I’m trying to figure out
From what I can guess, he can program to automatically send what moves his opponent made to a software and then get the best move from the software and make it automatically. There's no way he has another tab open where he manually makes moves, it wouldn't work in Bullet. But then again, StockFish does take a while to calculate the best move but I'm guessing he used some C++ version rather than JavaScript which is slower, and used a smaller depth in configuration.
@@shubhamdhingra6089 bruh that’s op
Anything can be done if you can program well enough
This is a copy and paste from a comment above explaining it:
There is a kind of browser extension, or a software, that allows the people to have an engine set in fixed depth, it could be depth 1 ELO 1500 depth 2 1800 elo depth 3 2200
or maybe fixed depth 8 enough to be like Eric
then this script is similar to the flyordie apocalypse software on 2014 where it sends to the screen some arrows to where to instantly moves, allowing the cheater to even do human moves
and allowing the user to streaming his screen without showing the arrows because streaming software as xplit allows you to select specify a .exe
then if this guys has a .exe script, and not browser script, he can simulate to be a human making mistakes but instantly having answers of where to move in depth 9 or 12 or whatever stockfish can do instantly without delays and mistakes, usually, depth between 9 to 12
so for this reason i said, that in a streaming, the screen and the DISPLAY REAL LIFE SCREEN should be streamed
then you will see if he has the arrows watching his real life display
through xplit you can ignore the arrows.
Hope that helps.
10:02 Eric missed h3 forcing ...Qxh3, Nf4 winning the queen.
QC6 would protect the mate threat right?
@@ColtsChannel Qc6 is just met by d5, blocking white's queen. White is forced to play Qxd5 since black is still threatening Qg2#, which just leads to white losing their queen for a pawn.
@@ColtsChannel Qc6 d5 and white has to take, loses queen and is in an even worse spot.
@@theMosen I see! Thanks.
I liked how you simply said "winning the queen", while leaving me to think how the heck such a move wins the queen.
I've never seen someone cheat at bullet before, and at first I was gonna jump in and defend this guy . . . but after a minute of thought I realized that opening up another tab to input the move against an engine there is a really dumb way to cheat. It would be relatively easy to build some overlay that could point out the best move on the real board in real time. This would be a much more . . . efficient method than the tried and true open up another tab technique.
I figured if such an overlay existed, it would likely be in the form of a Chrome extension, so I got curious and did some research. And, oh boy, not only is there such an extension . . . there are DOZENS of them. They vary from hilariously bad to good but impractical to scarily effective. Here's a few I found, discussed for your entertainment and for science (for SCIENCE ONLY, guys! To defend my ass against public scorn, I'll mention I tried each of these out in 1-2 bullet games to review them before un-installng them (except Chess Compass, which is actually pretty nice for analysis!), and had a policy of resigning each game I played when the extensions actually worked [although I confess I won two games with the first one that worked as it was before I decided to test all of them and write a post about it.])
BROKEN/NONFUNCTIONAL:
GB Chessextension -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-chess-posit/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld?hl=en
ChessMaster -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chess-master/ahanamijdbohnllmkgmhaeobimflbfkg?hl=en
I don't know if it's something wrong with my computer or if I didn't set them up right, but these just didn't work at all. I got a blank overlay from one of them and the other didn't appear to do anything at all.
GOOD for analysis, BAD for cheating (at least in bullet time control):
ChessVision.ai (endorsed by Ben Finegold, wowee!) --chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-chess-posit/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld?hl=en
Chess Compass -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chess-compass-free-online/djkdhnacahocjglfmgdkcogbmnhholch?hl=en
ChessVision is just way too slow to account for the kind of cheating used in the video. It could be used to cheat in blitz pretty effectively, though. Chess Compass is even safer. It can't be used to analyze the game in real-time, so it's basicaly an extra analysis board to use after the game.
CHEATING ENABLED:
Chess.com Next Move -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chesscom-next-move/ieaoeokfilgofofpdcehmgokenlnbdaa?hl=en
ChessOnSteroids -- chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessonsteroids/cmpjnbjbkjmmppgbbejhokpehdbpfgpo
These two literally give you the next move, in real time, using an engine described as "Strong", but "human-like". The main difference being that Next Move gives you a PGN notated recommendation, while ChessOnSteroids HIGHLIGHTS the best move on the board with lightning speed.
• Handy in your chess improvements.
• Could be used for understanding games of strong GMs as it also suggests moves in spectator mode.
Definitely totally NOT to be used for CHEATING. HOW COULD YOU EVEN THINK THAT??
I would bet good money that this guy was using one of these two extensions, most likely ChessOnSteroids, as the highlighted move overlay allows you to cheat VERY quickly.
IMPORTANT: I do not endorse or condone cheating by any of you guys in any context on chess.com, but I found it pretty interesting and entertaining to see all the available programs. Yes, that makes me a hypocrite for trying them out, and no, that doesn't give you a free pass. But I don't see anything wrong with trying these programs out with a willing friend, or using them for game analysis. I also recommend ChessBrah doing a video on them! It's interesting to see the dark side of chess cheating engines.
Dude, stop helping the cheaters by making it easy for them.
:/
@@santishorts Common sense should tell you that offering this info will make things worse.
@@radrook2153 I think you meant to respond to OP.
No one:
Literally no one:
Him: "aM I gOOD?"
He's so polite to the cheater. Canadians are too nice. I heard one time that a Canadian tried roasting a chicken but it came out raw because the Canadian just couldn't roast it 🥺
Twitch chat: Say the line -Bart- Eric!
Eric: *sighs* Is this theory?
But I don't understand how do they cheat is shorter time control???
Browser add-ons
There's a chess engine which makes the moves for you, it's called chess-bot
oh ok lol
this cheaters are very tech savvy
Stockfish app on a phone/tablet. Not easy to pull off in bullet, but definitely possible.
One day while pumping iron, his endorphin levels rose so high that the gates of chess Nirvana opened before him. Unfortunately he only had time to steal the bullet codex from the divine temple, before the gates slammed shut, returning him to his massive, sweating bulk, trembling on the gym floor..
bro took the limitless pill and became a super gm in 4 days
He gained 2200 in 4 days, hard work pays off
5:21 Truly an insightful comment from big man Eric himself
“EXPOSES HIM IMMEDIATELY” *11 minutes into the video begins exposing him
0:21 his rating graph describes an Ising model phase transition lol
I hope Eric was given back some of those points
These cheaters ruin the Internet chess experience. When you least expect it, you are playing a MF machine.
I think there was a chrome extension that shows you the best most on the board immedietly.
yay...eric is back
Let's take a minute of silence for Pooja
Free Pooja, she may have taken all of Eric's pieces but she also took his heart
Eric knows those points will be refunded, so the match is a free roll. He keeps the points on wins + all the lost points and ends up netting the points from the wins.
Also content
Would be interesting to know who's the highest rated online player who's never played in a real tournament.
This photo doesn't even belong to him, it's polish streamer's photo named Marianczelo
this guy didn't premove a single time
@Khaled I'm fairly sure a 1500 could beat an engine with a depth of one haha
@@markkealy4417 Fr Lmao
How low is your self-esteem?
Bertikox: Yes!
Yes is not an answer to that question.
@@PreservationEnthusiast I know. It is a meme or running gag. I can't explain it in English, but here are two examples.
(if there are too much sound effects)
Cutter: How much sound effects do you like?
Artist: Yes.
Hairdresser: Do you like short or long hair?
Ava Max: Yes.
(if you know her hair cut you understand)
@@NetzKaiser You are using "Yes" as an answer to mean either something very extreme or something in between, or both things together. It doesn't seem to be hugely funny even if I heard it once.
But, you are using this "joke" after it has been used 100 million times on You Tube.
In the light of that, considering the need for originality of jokes, do you still think it is still a funny joke.
@@PreservationEnthusiast Not your taste, not my problem. Enjoy life!
@@NetzKaiser It is your problem because it is an old phrase. You are just following another person's idea like a sheep. Chess players are thinkers... you can do better.
I mean it's pretty clear for people form Poland that this account is suspicious just by looking at his profile pic XD
I wonder how he got so good at cheating, almost every cheater can't handle the timer, but this guy had no problem with it
I think he isn’t a cheater. A cheater can’t play bullet so fast
@@karlmeier497 He has a bot to do the moves
stupid cheaters:
1- offer draw
2-take time to capture a queen with a pawn!
3-play 3 second per move
4-ask if they are good
5-do not play some random moves to not get 99% accuracy
6-have 100% win rate
7-play opening really slow
smarter cheaters:
8-play Ultra aggressively for example by sacing a piece just to open the king side because they know the engine will find a solution
9-usually use a program or an add-on to help them
10-do not trade pieces even if engine suggests it
11- before it comes to flagging part of blitz or bullet they intentionally hang a piece so they can resign, or they rage quit or just resign
12-play weird openings like fried fox defense!
How does someone even cheat in Bullet... That’s almost impressive to be honest...
I have no idea! Lol, cause it takes a bit of time for the computer to think. I'm not even mad!!! That's fooking impressive!!!
@@Haylem automatic engine
Eric: You see the diamond? Paying people never cheat.
Cheater: Hold my stockfish
"This korean music doesnt help btw" "Blame the weebs"
"What does weeb mean"
@@havardmj someone who watches anime a lot
@@falsebanned2899 No, it's someone obsessed with Japanese culture.
he started hitting the books and the gym on may 1st. he decided to change everything in one month
Sigh man when will these cheaters ever learn? SMH
The only way this would make sense is if Magnus Carlsen was secretly playing on that account haha
@Gordon Martin wish i was a human bean..
@@audi787b that sounds like some racial slur lol
@Gordon Martin Magnus is a human *bean*?? No kidding.
He just mastered the tempo smh
People always say, "how can you cheat in Bullet?"....This....this is how.
Can you explain? Is he using a program that moves the pieces for him? Cause typical analysis board engines cant analyze that fast.
@@Sam-kj9ui Thank you. That was exactly my thought.
@Khaled Exactly. I know one in particular. It's called Acid Ape Chess. I know because I have the application on my phone. I use it to analyze complex attacking positions.
But yeah, it has a feature where you can essentially just plug it into ICC, Lichess, Chess.com, chess24 and play at a lower ELO and not be discovered. You're not using depth 26+ or something crazy, just around 2400 rating range.
Best way to identify a cheater especiay if they are at the same rating as you....you don't see any way to get an advantage. They outplay you completely, exactly how it happened to Eric.
Isn't there a possibility that the account ban could be attributed to him admitting on chat that he is using a Smurf account? I feel the "fair play violation" is way too big am umbrella for all the illegal stuff that can be done. Chess com and lichess should own up their actions and just say that they blocked the account because they thought that the account was cheating.
"How do you get 2000 points in a month?" Let's ask Hikaru.