I caught a chess cheater!
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Eric definitely doesn't get enough credit for his humor. His sarcasm while taking the game seriously is so good.
I thought people followed him for his humour
His dry humor is amazing.
i love how a 1300 thought he could mix some blunders with engine moves then completely outplay a grandmaster at the endgame with less than a minute on the clock only up the exchange. He doesn't understand chess enough to see how stupid this looks lmao
A "1300"
They think they can fool with a few blunder moves And think that they can hide their cheating What do you expect from the 1300 anyway?
Brilliant move? you kidding right?
Even easier. Hes thinking on opening moves
@@drjoyrajghosh2271 it depends, 1300-1400 is intermediate level, someone is really good at the opening but lacks endgame skill, someone is good at endgame and bad in the opening.
Also if you frequently play against the engine and/or are used to analysing with it, then you will notice that it usually prefers some kind of plans over others.
The calm and rational language that Eric uses even when it's absolutely clear that the opponent is cheating, is just too good to watch. Total role model on how to handle an a**ole online.
he's alpha
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'in bullet you didn't have enough time to express yourself as an artist' LOOOOL
LMAO
a con artist that is
Yeah, I died at that point 😂
I love how haunting this feels without any techno beats
Jim knows how to open up my A file lmaoo
Someone wrote in chat " Jim, do you know Pooja?" hahaha
She’s his older sister probably.
@@Keep701 pooja’s alt account probably.
Sweet Pooja 😭
hahahahah pooja
"this is an interactive channel" lmao. Eric is a legend. The way he handled all of this is 100% class.
"I was kinda curious why you wanted to do King g7?"... No response.... Lmfao
My man could have probably just said "To force your knight to move" and would have been logical for his rating. It's a move I might do (because I'm low rated and not realizing the alternate danger that Eric pointed out).
Yeah I think Eric overestimated how that move looked. ~1700 rating here and it looked like a pretty decent move, forces the knight to move somewhere and baits an exchange at the cost of 1 pawn.
@@Dmckenzie6 I don't know man, putting your King in the bishop's line of fire against a GM vs a 1300 is asking for a nasty tactic that you'll never see coming. It makes sense in hingsight when you see there's no real danger, but to willingly move into the fianchetto against a GM is too poised and brave of a move for someone under 2000, imo
@@Alchemistic88 No see that's my point, a low enough player isn't even thinking about the fianchetto against a GM part. They're immediately just thinking of "How do I annoy that knight", and part of the reason they're low rated is because they're not thinking about all that nasty tactic stuff. Normally it'd get massively punished, but in this instance their short sightedness actually works.
@@Dmckenzie6 except its not cuz he was using an engine.
Eric epic foreshadowing with the “underrated in chess”, I KNOW WHAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SAY ERIC!!!!!
Man I love cheater content with Eric or Aman, a guilty pleasure
Nothing guilty with exposing cheaters though lol
Love cheater content!
Yeah man , feels good to see those cheaters get fked up . They spoil chess
I don't even feel guilty for enjoying this
His top tier content imo. And also building habits by Aman too. Both are top tier content of this channel
"I cheated and lied but I'm not dishonest"
Same thoughts he’s so cringe
That's what she said...
That mating net was pretty sick, I gotta admit.
yup stockfish is pretty insane
I'm pretty slow, so as I looked at it it gradually dawned on me. Holy crap
Yeah I’m not going to lie it took me a long time to figure out that Eric was actually dead lost
I love seeing stockfish work. And mixed with great streamers its even better :D
you rarely see that kinda thing in human games, one day some strong gm will try something like that and it'll be glorious. sac sac sac zugzwang
Pushes the pawns in advance to block the bishop after a check...but then takes an eternity to do it once the check happens 😂😂😂
Lol that was what sealed it for me. Subtle but damning
As allways, Eric handled him like a boss and reserved judgement for the chat. Such a clever and constructive way to maintain the integrity of the channel! Btw, is this theory?
agreeed, great comment
The kid came back and gave him 250 dollars just to stay banned savage
"It's a pattern. He gives away the horse and then kicks the shit out of you. Gives you this false hope." 🤣
High elo GMs like eric ALWAYS notice when you are cheating
when a 1300 plays 96% accuracy against a gm, you already know they’re cheating lmao
A Fide master would also immediately know what's up. Even faster, because the moves are even more unnatural to them.
Even at a lower level you can see what’s up
@@lorenzogalasso6252 you know something is wrong when the moves dont make sense and then you end up in a mating net 5 moves later
@@jahhone5892 yes exactly
The 20 seconds of silence after he typed his message, killed me 😂😂
Yo what the hell is that last long message. Eric is too nice, Aman would have foozball’d that out immediately like
GET THAT SHIT OUTTA HERE!!!!!!
i love this kind of content. Eric is naturally entertaining, even when he just calls people buddy.
Eric saying buddy when he's losing is peak comedy in my world
I remember watching you before 2018 2017 and you were so humble about being a GM lol, now your finally loving your position of GM and it's awesome to see. Love seeing a fellow Canadian on top
As much as i dont advocate cheating and scamming, the guy could have just made a new account and no one would know instead of all the begging and gifting subs for forgiveness from random people online...
Yeah, they got issues for sure
He just wants attention dude for sure
The sad thing is that’s going to be his legacy after he dies
but then he would have to hide away its better to be honest
Cheater vs Eric is always cool 😂😂
I think some of the moves were by an enjim
The way he repeatedly says "Jim..." like he means "Jim please don't hurt me" is so funny.
Permanent ban is just fine. Playing the emotional card once being caught works with your parents, not in real life with other people. The cheater has ot learn it. There is a saying in french, «faute avouée est à moitié pardonnée», admission of guilt only takes half of the blame away ;-).
I love how you give him lots of "hints" that invite him to blunder in case he's listening.
20:37 "We got b-pawn Jim again" he knew Jim just started the engine again😂😂😂😂
He was using engine for entire game but mixing his moves with blunders sometimes. Even the opening with quick development taking control of center, 1300 don't play first ten moves like that
@Milan Tol so you agree with me that he was using engine for opening too. Why are you responding to me then?
tbh he should be just banned for the fucking winking robot emoji
The untold crime.
"uh oh, it's the b-pawn Jim again"
im dying 😂
I think he has a chess-humiliation fetish... he played you all this time
The way in which Eric slowly boils the cheaters ego asunder is remarkable, he is truly built different.
Would've loved this if, after the cheater's confession, Eric sombrely reflected for 10-15 seconds before shouting "GET HIM OUTTA HERE"
I was really hoping for a KO
Great video. Glad the guy admitted to it at the end. That’ll eliminate the “ how do you know he’s cheating?” Comments. Maybe lol
When jim confessed i just about died of laughter 😂
This was a battle of high EGO vs high ELO.
Why cheat when you could lose with grace
I think the comments are missing the point of why Eric reacted and spoke the way he did.
He did it because he didn't want the guy to not gift subs. If he immediately comes out and says the guy is blatantly cheating then there's 0% chance he will gift any subs. It will just scare the guy away
Since he had already gifted ten subs, it was a realistic possibility he could get more subs out of the guy. Which he did end up doing, getting fifty or so.
Like he really cares about 40 subs. It's just content.
@@tr4nnel752 Eric likes too though money lol
I'm sorry guys I must have had a stroke
A sub is $5 is that right?
Also i just read something on twitch adressed to creators saying they should not make viewers feel guilty if they cannot subscribe or use bits, so maybe Eric is just following the rules.
After all i feel bad for Jim, he looks young. I hope he didn't feel compelled to gift $250, wouldn't that be a serious case of psychological harassement.
@@elmad2153 Jim is a jackass who agreed to pay so he could play Eric and then tried to get out of it. Everything he did, he brought on himself. No one harassed him, they held him to his word and he is a wormy coward who tried to back out.
The way Eric and Aman do cheaters, instead of being done by them is priceless!
Eric's decisions regarding this cheater were quite level-headed and fair, to the point of allowing chat to vote for the outcome. Very professional way to ensure the standard for current and future followers of the channel imo
Out of all the past cheater vids on this channel, this has by far been the MOST CRIIIINGE dude seriously
Eric “smiley face is consent” Hansen
:)
Good moves take 3 seconds, bad moves take 7 seconds. Suss.
the way he was playing judge at the end was so fuckin amusing
16:45 don’t disrespect John Wall like that 😂
"Whenever Jim puts smth on the a-file you know youre screwed" made my day^^
10:21 Love the Jimothy callout in the chat LOL
You have to love Eric for his justice. I think that hole engagement was fair
Who's been engaging with holes🤨
1300 players probably the most hidden chess bots you can use. Not high enough to take notice, not low enough to blunder lose in games.
the proper thing is to now hold a match against Jeremy and Pooja for the title of best player in chess history
Love watching strong GMs vs engines. Shame it's so disheartening to play against, and it only ever happens under the guise of a low rated player...
Jeez! At least 1 more thing, which Jim has brought is some cheating drama! I watched the whole video at a heartbeat 😂
if this happened with Hikaru...
Hikaru would literally turned his day into the worst nightmare...
Eric obviously is by far one of the kindest and good hearted people out there....
Using people's kindness is a sin itself.
Take a shot every time Eric says "Jim"
the chat finds the defendant guilty beyond the reasonable doubt and sentences them to life in BAN.
Why eric so calm, when the rage gonna happened again 😭
He probably cheated with the puzzle rush at 43 as well, being a ~1300
Im 1300 rapid and mine is 43 too.
@@fredwalter923 hence the probably in my comment.
@@Hao1981obama probably jerks off to the category "barely legal"
He types slow cause he has an engine saying which letters to put.
At this point, I assume some percentage of online chess is always cheating, so it’s interesting to see someone apologize and give subs for it. Normal trolls give absolutely zero effs.
Insane how strong Stockfi...eh, Jim played..
Who needs Judge Judy when we have *Judge Eric* ?! 👨⚖
That was epic. 👏👍
Came away from this video thinking Eric is a pretty nice guy tbh.
Imagine this is just Hikaru on a smurf
So here's my hot take on this guys as a 33 year old 1800 blitz/ 2k rapid player who played scholastic chess since the age of 13 (won a couple of tournaments), then got back into it at 25, and who is also a gamer, has played Quake 3 Arena/Quake Live ffa/duel/CA/race/TDM at a highly competitive level since 2003:
As a young scholastic player (never coached), reading books, studying master games, getting strong enough to win ~1600 bracket tournaments, you learn from a VERY early age just how strong even an IM is, let alone a GM.
But there a couple of things for the modern 'gamer'/zoomer which I believe are working against them that fail to allow them to grasp JUST how massive and insurmountable the strength difference is between a GM and say someone who is 'new' to chess and learning the game as a result of the 'Chess Boom' on Twitch:
.1 The ELO/ladder systems used in competitive gaming models are VERY uneven in their break points and accuracy regarding the true strength of a player: Things like uneven player pools, gear differences in MMOs, broken or OP team comps, and MANY other imbalances make the ELO/Rating systems that a young gamer is familiar with these days in competitive gaming nowhere near as accurate as Chess ELO does, because those games have inherent imbalances, while chess is as close to a perfectly balanced game that has ever existed.
They figure "if I can farm ELO in LoL, or CS:GO, or WoW, surely I can farm Chess ELO since I'm not a total N00b" - but this is simply not the case:
In chess, you can't gain 200 ELO just from getting a few new pieces of gear for your team, an ability upgrade, a new build strategy, etc. - In chess, with a large enough sample size of games, 100 ELO represents a concrete and tangible advantage in understanding, ability, or a combination of those two things. 200 ELO is virtually insurmountable in a best-of series assuming again that you have a large enough sample size of games played.
TLDR; Chess ELO is not 'farmable' as in many games, and taking that same approach as with some other game simply won't work; there are no rating 'shortcuts' like there are in other games.
.2 Universal presence of engines instills a false sense of 'knowing' when a move is good or bad, and being laughed at when you don't 'get it' like some other jerk with an engine.
Coming up in my era, we 1600s had no engines, well we did but they were barely 2200 or so roughly, and they were too slow to use in blitz because the computers were weak back then.
Thus there was no false sense of confidence like young gamers have today, when it's all too easy to judge a GM's move as bad just because Stockfish says so, without having any understanding of why the move is bad yourself.
If you are a young up and coming chess learner, do yourself a favor and intentionally forget both of these mindsets.
Only use an engine for post game analysis or clarity in analyzing the games of others, try to find some good lessons (Chess.com actually has great lesson material as well as video series), watch VODs of strong tournaments with live analysis, work on your tactics trainers and increase your positional understanding, and you WILL increase your ELO - but you still won't become a GM unless you are remarkably gifted at Chess.
This is the way!
Cheers
Sir, I just want to say thank you for the reasonable and thoughtful assumption you shared.
Can’t tell if Eric felt bad for the guy or was trying not to get wrapped up in a potential suicide.
The Canadian comes out when Eric is stressed
Despite the cheating, i think its a good content seeing GM struggle and amaze with those engine move
Though I think it’s better when a GM plays an engine accidentally with no odds. With queen odds, the game never really gets close. Even with the intentional piece sacs he’s still up tons of material.
@@huckthatdish not really because it balances out. If using an engine with no odds from start to finish with all pieces on the board, that could be harder than playing against the engine only in the last few seonds. Here Jim would play himself throughout the majority of the game and even make a ton of blunders at the beginning and wouldn't turn on the engine until there was seconds left. So I don't think one is better than the other. In fact, one could argue it would be more difficult playing with all pieces on the board against the engine from start to finish with all pieces on board vs only turning engine on at the last few seconds with queen odds.
@@steelsteez6118 If you think playing an engine down a full queen is easier than playing an engine with equal material you are high
eric knew he was playing a cheater even before he played them, you can tell because he used the hippo opening which is known as a tool against cheaters lol
Not even doing a good job, the move time makes it obvious.
Gotta love how he already knew it is a cheater after the first or second game but kept going anyway. Eric knows what the brahs like to see.
He knew from the start this would give good UA-cam content. Cheater=free high view UA-cam video = free money. Plus the extra subs.
@@pedraumbass I don't think he knew before the game, but it was blatantly obvious after the first few moves. By 3:56 when the cheater played h5 there was no doubt he was making engine moves.
@@AKhan0372 by "from the start" I mean "as soon as he made a fishy move"
the post-game stuff is true premium eric hansen content lmao
If Eric keeps saying your name, he knows you're cheating.
Would love to see Jim and Pooja fixed up on a blind date.
If I were a GM, I'd be playing engines so much because I'd know that people want to see those games really badly and I wouldn't care if I lose over and over again because it would be for the entertainment of the fans. Not siding with Jim at all, this is a separate topic.
This cheater was the reason I was sleep deprived the next morning... Great content as always! Lmao
And to think, you could have just watched it on UA-cam whenever it was convenient for you.
@@ThePdog3k i moreso meant I was watching the stream when this occurred, and got hooked on what the outcome was going to be lol
This has been going on for quite a while. Subs refusing to pay after losing. First a sub promised Aman he would pay him after beating him a 1700 without a Queen. Then he started changing the rules.
They dont make sense to you, everyone has there own play style
"I'm not dishonest" buddy
I love how Eric occasionally calls him “The Jim”
He cheated but he isn't dishonest. Interesting...
I love how the pro chess streamers play a 1300 and they're so positive about a string of strong moves. 1300s cannot shut down counterplay except for single pawn pushes. If you have to play often at that rating range (which I do as my time management is horrible at finding tactics) it's painfully obvious the cheating
Love how Eric bates this person to be even bolder.. so funny
They should pay the cheater for the good content
This guy was just seeking attention...
This whole b3 sac idea was very nuanced i have to say. It’s not the human way of converting the position, cold blooded accuracy.
Cool Fact: The VS that he uses in the thumbnail is a blacked out logo of VS Gaming - a South African competitve gaming organization under Telkom, th national ISP!l.
My computer is my most frequent chess opponent. My goal when I play the computer is to avoid checkmate for as many moves as possible. I consider it a victory when I can actually reach the endgame. The computer does things to me like what we see in these games: moves that I can't make any sense of until I go back and do analysis, where I discover that the computer was slowly manipulating me into putting all of my pieces on the right squares so it could then spring a massive total annihilation attack twelve moves later.
Let’s goooo I made it in the video as twitch chatter lmaoo
6:30 Why didn't he fork with the Bishop
Worst part of the story is that he most probably cheat his way to 1300 … this is the most pathetic cheater video I have seen for sure… he is probably really 900-1000 and want to be as good as a 2000 without the effort
Terrible 1st game for Hansen. The other guy made so many mistakes.
That is n1 rule in busyness: money in advance.
If you "trust" your counterpart like this - you're getting scollar'smated, in finence )
100 or 25 had me rolling LMAO
I think the money is really the most important aspect here, and he honoured his agreement with you.
I understand cheating in such a serious game like chess, especially against someone who dedicated their life to it, is incredibly offensive and rude.
However, this kid did not cheat to get a better rating, he had a moment of madness and wanted to flex for Eric.
I do think since the kid took personal responsibility and honoured his wager, he should only serve a small sentence for the cheating, I doubt he will be inclined to do so again.
It seems like he truly is a fan of the channel, and wants to continue to support you, it makes sense to forgive in this instance imo.
I totally agree 100%
I’m confused? He wagered 100 subs and lost the bo5. Then admitted cheating. Then came back and gifted 50. Half of the promised amount. Unless I missed something, let me know. IMO Eric was very generous in the way he handled it. Good lesson for a young man to learn, that type of behavior can have much worse consequences in the real world. I.E. you pull the same stunt in a bar in college, like cheating a wagered pool game and getting caught… you’ll be lucky if you don’t end up in the hospital.
@@Flurbskating I thought he repaid the full amount, but in that case, I understand where Eric is coming from.
@@Flurbskating You are right too, definitely a valuable lesson to learn as a man.
20 secs to construct a 20 move mating net, damn, uncle stockfish really talk jim well.
the way Eric says Jim kills me lmao.
Jim! Jim… Jim?
"Smiley face... ok, that must mean 'yes'. That's consent." 30:36
Just be aware that this kind of reasoning might not hold up in certain life situations.
if somebody could count how many times he said jim he would be the real grandmaster
Jim has big balls.
Serawain laughing at the joke made my day!