Base M3 Pro 11/14 vs Top M3 Pro 12/18 - $400 Upgrade - Results will surprise you.

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  • Base M3 Pro 11/14 vs Top M3 Pro 12/18 - $400 Upgrade - Results will surprise you - Pro Photo Workflow Test & comparisons. This is a comprehensive test & comparison of Apple newest M3 SoC inside the 14" & 16" MacBook Pro. This review will also include results from previous generation M1, M2, M3, M1 Pro, M2 Pro, M1 Max, M2 Max, M3 Max, M1 Ultra and M2 Ultra. These tests includes Lightroom Classic, Lightroom, Capture One, Photoshop, Final Cut Pro and After Effects. These are tests done from a perspective of a pro photographers so you can choose the best machines that fits your workflow.
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    Ultimate Calibration Guide for Apple 14" & 16" MacBook Pro XDR Display - This is the way!
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    iStat Menu bjango.com/mac/istatmenus/
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    Looking back - Pre M3 release videos
    My thoughts about the new M3 Macs, Overall configuration advise
    • My thoughts about the ...
    M3 Macs - A few additional thoughts before the official ship date!
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    00:00 Intro
    00:17 Preface
    01:19 Test System
    02:26 Memory Bandwidth
    03:49 Retest Everything
    04:03 Battery
    05:16 Color Calibration
    05:29 Single App Test
    05:44 Test Configs
    06:08 Effect of SSD & RAM Is known
    06:17 Reading the Spec
    06:27 SSD
    07:14 Internal vs External SSD
    07:30 Memory - RAM
    08:52 Intel Mac advise
    09:18 32GB+ for Pro
    09:44 Lightroom Classic Preview 1:1
    10:55 LRC Export
    12:24 LRC HDR
    13:13 LRC Panorama Merge
    14:43 LRC AI Noise Reduction
    15:56 Lightroom CC - LR Export
    17:11 Capture 1 - C1 Preview
    18:47 C1 Export
    20:18 Photoshop
    23:28 Video Export FCP
    24:21 AfterEffects
    25:21 Analysis
    26:42 14” Advice
    27:54 16” Advice
    28:41 SoC Recommendations
    31:01 Upgrade Path
    32:17 Conclusion
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  • @ArtIsRight
    @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +25

    Correction for one of the computer in the charts it is supposed to be 14MBP M3 8/10 16GB 512GB instead of 13MBP M3 8/10 16GB 512GB. It is a 14" MBP M3 not a 13" one. But you get the idea.

    • @108u9
      @108u9 7 місяців тому +1

      18:39 hi Art what do you mean here with tether capture on C1Pro? Unsure what you mean. Does the top spec M3Pro tether any faster than the base? Thank you!

  • @emanueleungaro4277
    @emanueleungaro4277 7 місяців тому +57

    my man dropped the best buyer guide for M3 pro and thought we wouldnt notice

  • @nitpickpro9037
    @nitpickpro9037 7 місяців тому +6

    This review video was exactly I was searching for. Great work. Clearly explained with final recommendations. Now I know which one to upgrade to.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @rajington
    @rajington 7 місяців тому +19

    I can't believe you made so many comparison videos... but I'm glad you did, this was the exact one that I needed. 11/14 w/ 36GB it is.

  • @Minttusuklaarae
    @Minttusuklaarae 7 місяців тому +5

    This was super comprehensive. Thank you!

  • @AbCdEf-vh7jj
    @AbCdEf-vh7jj 6 місяців тому +7

    Honestly: This is the best review I‘ve ever seen! Thanks pure quality content that you can use for years! Thank you so much for sharing your tests! I’m a software developer but your analysis helped me a lot decoding what’s best for me!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  5 місяців тому

      You're very welcome!

  • @richardrick1014
    @richardrick1014 7 місяців тому +12

    Top notch review. All performance results and data laid out clearly, straightforward and no exaggeration, best to watch as buying guide when consider buying a mac.

  • @adl0815
    @adl0815 7 місяців тому +23

    Man, you're on fire! So many videos and tests in such short time. 🤯

  • @WAPhoto
    @WAPhoto 7 місяців тому +3

    Great video as always! Looking forward to the M3 Max comparisons Base vs Top end.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      That is up coming :)

  • @synen
    @synen 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you Art, once again, very professional presentation.

  • @MarioCRO
    @MarioCRO 7 місяців тому +5

    Wow, so glad I ended up with M3 Pro (11core) in 14 inch body.... I must also add, the thermals are really great with this one, Cinebench CPU/GPU tests reach around 60 degrees celsius and only then can you hear the vents...

  • @bradSmith-yd5ev
    @bradSmith-yd5ev 7 місяців тому +9

    Awesome job, and thanks for diving into M3 Pro! One thought... not sure how you would do it, but an annotation on memory pressure (green/yellow/red) for each run would be very interesting... clearly you can't test every RAM configuration, but knowing where paging/swapping kicked in would be helpful. But even without this it was great... thank you!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      The thing is that with single app testing you won't see much of the effect.

    • @bradSmith-yd5ev
      @bradSmith-yd5ev 7 місяців тому

      @@ArtIsRight Thank you for the clarification... looking back, I think I was confused by your comment for Photoshop Medium (at 22mins) that "once you increase the memory in the system things do run faster"... looking back I think you were referring to the "70%" and "90%" numbers(?), which I didn't understand (I'm not a photographer).

  • @lovenspired
    @lovenspired 5 місяців тому +20

    Excellent review. The 14" MBP M3pro is exactly the machine I was considering, so I appreciate how you clearly laid out in your analysis section the suggestion of depositing $200 dollars towards upgrading the memory to 36 GB instead of using it to upgrade the core from 11 to 12. This was exactly where I had uncertainty in my decision regarding the configurations. Your video nailed down exactly what I needed to know to select the perfect machine for my needs. You saved this gal some money. THANK YOU! ^_^

  • @babyivan
    @babyivan 6 місяців тому +4

    u answered all my questions. thank you legend

  • @tony.cortez
    @tony.cortez 7 місяців тому +5

    Can’t wait for this channel to hit 1m subscribers. This is legit my go to channel for mac related benchmarks

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +2

      Thank you, hopefully then I'll have a team to work on my charts and double check the annotations. So hard being a 1 person team.

    • @tony.cortez
      @tony.cortez 7 місяців тому

      @@ArtIsRight you’re welcome. For a 1 man team, you are doing an amazing job.

  • @subzerosumgame
    @subzerosumgame 2 місяці тому +1

    underrated video. and im happy that I went for the pro base with an ram upgrade. appreciate for this and keep up the good job !

  • @RyanChowansky
    @RyanChowansky 4 місяці тому +2

    bro.. why did it take me over 8 hours if listening and watching comparisons to find this INCREDIBLY thorough video. Thank you so much. Seems like if video is my thing I have to go max. Was really hoping you were going to give the base m3 pro with upgraded ram the thumbs up for the video editing as well! Thank you so much!

  • @pedrog4651
    @pedrog4651 7 місяців тому +2

    Your videos are very educational. Thank you.

  • @nino9075
    @nino9075 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for this review mate, you just saved me 200 bucks! Keep it up.

  • @krystiansek6238
    @krystiansek6238 3 місяці тому +1

    That's a great work!! Thanks

  • @eatsimplefood
    @eatsimplefood 7 місяців тому +3

    thanks for your work!!

  • @Alex-es3fd
    @Alex-es3fd 7 місяців тому +3

    Amazing video. I was already leaning towards 11c/14g Pro with 36gb 1 TB before this video. Thanks!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      Good choice!

    • @Alex-es3fd
      @Alex-es3fd 7 місяців тому

      @@ArtIsRight Hey Art! Your channel is the best for comparisons by far. Should have 200k+ subs in no time. Can I ask your advice? I’m going to start a youtube channel myself and will do some video editing. Mostly 1080p and probably 30 min max videos, but some will be 4k. Right now my machine is an M1 Mini 16gb. Will this machine do ok with Adobe Premiere Pro? I was debating keeping it or upgrading to either: 14” Macbook Pro M3 Pro 11/14, 14” Macbook Pro M3 Pro 12/18, 14” Macbook Pro M3 Max 14/30 (all of these would be 36GB 1TB), Mac Studio M2 Max 12/30 64 GB Ram 2TB (same price as most of the macbooks due to no screen, keyboard, etc).
      Out of those 5 options, what do you recommend?

  • @MusyokiMusyoka_
    @MusyokiMusyoka_ 7 місяців тому +2

    Amazing review 💯 🙌

  • @paigeme886
    @paigeme886 7 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for your thorough comparisons. Recently discovered your channel and it’s fantastic.
    Just a note, from the description and at the start, I thought you were initially talking about the actual base/lowest spec and priced MacBook Pro 14” which doesn’t really have a pro chip and only has 8gb Ram. I know you wrote the cpu/ gpu specs but I didn’t even take note of them - just read ‘base’ and assumed you meant the 8gb Ram version. Perhaps it would be a good idea to write or say “not the m3 pro with 8 gb ram that costs $1599 usd”. I think some people may be completely unaware of all the different m3 machines & importance of all the specs- specifically the Ram.

  • @chalinee_thirasupa
    @chalinee_thirasupa 3 місяці тому +2

    Incredible and comprehensive review I ever need after spending almost 2 weeks figuring out what to upgrade to!!! I'm using MBP 13" 2019 Corei5 and thinking about upgrading to M3 pro. However, I cannot decide whether I should pay extra $200 for 12/18 + 36Gb ram/ 512Gb or not. As a pro photographer who has to reach deadline as soon as possible and have watched this video, I think I will go for M3 pro 11/14 + 36Gb ram 1TB to use for 4-5 years and I think it will definitely pay of itself. Thank you so much, you literally save my day!

  • @sumayajama4234
    @sumayajama4234 4 місяці тому +2

    Just wow what a review, great work. I was using my mbp late 2015 until 2023, upgraded to m2 air with 8gb ram but just wasnt doing it for me with my workload. I have just ordered the mbp 14 inch with 11 core 18gb ram (Silver its just the best colour) THANK you once again for the review.

  • @xalizalizx
    @xalizalizx 7 місяців тому +1

    Great video. One suggestion. You should include code compilation test also for programmers.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Some one need to send me a benchmark sample

  • @damien.berthiaume
    @damien.berthiaume 4 місяці тому +1

    great review!

  • @dags170291
    @dags170291 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank u for this. Only thing i would say is i wish it was the same size as battery and performance could vary because of thermals etc. but still a great video

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      marginal at best, I would say don't over think it. I also made the argument that the bigger one that's supposed to be better is not performing that much better at all. That is pretty much telling you everything that you need to know.

  • @stfuclinton
    @stfuclinton 7 місяців тому +3

    Best testing video I've seen so far would've loved to see more about the Max. And graphics performance on games but I realize that probably isn't what you focus on

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      You are right. I don't really game

  • @pauljazzman408
    @pauljazzman408 7 місяців тому +1

    Great review. Really detailed. Maybe 14 inch M3 pro is better value in a way but I wanted a 16" M3 pro because of screen size and space black finish. I didn't then consider 14 inch M3 Pro. The M2 pro was a very good model for my Mac mini so that highlighted the value proposition of the pro chips for me. I so some light photoshop and graphic layout work.

  • @TheDanEdwards
    @TheDanEdwards 7 місяців тому +1

    Thanks. You are doing yeoman's work with these M chips.

  • @BuildingByFaith
    @BuildingByFaith 7 місяців тому +1

    Very thorough job. I'd be interested to see this comparison with DxO PureRaw.

  • @artemeditor9646
    @artemeditor9646 7 місяців тому +1

    awesome! thank you

  • @ggdbin
    @ggdbin 7 місяців тому +69

    ai summary: Recommend base 14" M3 Pro upgraded to 32GB RAM as the price/performance sweet spot around $2300

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +6

      😀

    • @rene.s.s
      @rene.s.s 7 місяців тому +8

      Ya, but 512GB is kinda unusable.

    • @pixeldojo
      @pixeldojo 7 місяців тому

      @@rene.s.sadd external Thunderbolt ssd, problem solved.

    • @jakeanzalone
      @jakeanzalone 7 місяців тому +10

      @@rene.s.swhy is 512GB unusable?… especially if I have hard drives for photo/video work? Feel like 512 is plenty of space

    • @ericsnyder6763
      @ericsnyder6763 7 місяців тому +2

      Agree and if you would often use 512gb, you'd also often use 1TB anyhow. Need external unless you have 2TB.

  • @danmckee4988
    @danmckee4988 7 місяців тому +1

    Again, great info for decision process on what MBP to purchase! During the Apple Scary event, they mentioned the GPU utilization with Dynamic Caching. What is your take on how that may effect LRC and PS performance if/when Adobe optimizes to take advantage of the GPU on the M3’s?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      I would be interesting, that really just utilizes the memory, but the cores are already being used right now in the task. I don't think we'll see much by ways of improvements, may be, if anything, just a touch. But remember too that older machines that used to be really fast like the M1 Ultra is now a touch slower with the current OS and apps on the market.

  • @desmondnewton1189
    @desmondnewton1189 2 місяці тому +2

    Perfect video thanks

  • @claudiustefan8831
    @claudiustefan8831 2 місяці тому +3

    My mannnnn - what is thisssss - PURE GOLD !!!

  • @diamonddave2622
    @diamonddave2622 7 місяців тому

    Great video.
    Do you showcase your photographic work anywhere?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Not yet, I used to. :)

  • @loldatfunny
    @loldatfunny 7 місяців тому +1

    great stuff

  • @momotaroux264
    @momotaroux264 5 місяців тому

    Art, thank you for all you do! I've watched all your comparison videos with the new M3 chips and I think this video in particular definitely will shape up my decision. For my workflow (schoolwork, media consumption, working on ad creatives/Shopify, light photo and video editing), would you say the base M3 Pro with 36GB/2TB be more than good enough for my use case?

  • @bloo_byte
    @bloo_byte 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for the video. I was really wondering if those 4 extra gpu cores make a difference

  • @YsoEdgy
    @YsoEdgy 3 місяці тому

    I really appreciate the video. Wanted to make sure which version of the pro would be best for me. Coming from an m1 air base model 😅.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому +1

      Either, I would not update the GPU, it does make sense for the money. Conclusion to this video said as much, better use money on RAM

  • @klausbauer
    @klausbauer 7 місяців тому +2

    Thx for all your effort, amazing 🙏

  • @JasonHorsnell
    @JasonHorsnell 7 місяців тому

    Nice analysis. I have the M3 Max base 14 more or less for the reasons you mentioned…

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      the best one this round

  • @JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls
    @JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls 7 місяців тому +3

    Art as always we HIGHLY Appreciate everything
    Will you ever be testing the M3 pro 32 GB versus the M3 Max base that’s the next jump up between the two levels and we need to be able to see if it’s worth the extra money to jump up to
    With real world testing with LRC and Photoshop?
    Levels between previous model, and next model with allow us to decide whether it’s worth the price jump

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Probably not. The routine now is to stick with Stock, unless someone want to lend me their machine for about 4 hours

    • @JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls
      @JeffAlanWolf-ij3ls 7 місяців тому

      Understand
      how about the base 16 inch M3 Pro versus the base M3 max head to head with LRC and Photoshop?
      Did you show that in your last video with charts and if so, head to head what benefits?

    • @pedrog4651
      @pedrog4651 7 місяців тому

      Is the m3 max on the 14” mbp and overkill? Previous editions were throttled in the smaller chassis. Should any Max chip be bought on the 16” mbp?

  • @apocryphal_man
    @apocryphal_man 7 місяців тому

    Hey, there. A very much appreciate your approach on reviewing/testing. Quick question: Will you include tests in Davinci in the future?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      have been looking into it, if I do it won't be generational testing

    • @apocryphal_man
      @apocryphal_man 7 місяців тому

      That would be totally fine, kerp up the good work!

  • @dnak08
    @dnak08 4 дні тому +1

    Good stuff, very happy with my M3 Pro, although I went with the 18GB RAM, I haven't felt any slowdown with multiple apps including adobe suite

  • @Iordnutz
    @Iordnutz 7 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for this video!!

  • @beace4436
    @beace4436 4 місяці тому

    Hey, great video. What’s better? A 14” 11/14 M3 Pro with 36gb ram, or a 14” M2 Max with 32GB ram.
    My main concern is temps. I want the fan running as little as possible

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  4 місяці тому

      then 16" would be the way to go, but still unless you are working it hard then the 14" does not ramp up as much

  • @mathieuceccarini1841
    @mathieuceccarini1841 7 місяців тому +5

    Hi Art, another great video! I have a question I work in event photograpy with a sony a7 iv maybe a sony A1 for later, I wanted to know if the MBP 16 M3 max 14cpu 30 gpu 36gb 1to would be suitable for Lr and Ps use?

    • @nwwy
      @nwwy 7 місяців тому +2

      Yes will be perfect. Maybe a bit more RAM if you are a heavy tab collector.

    • @mathieuceccarini1841
      @mathieuceccarini1841 7 місяців тому +3

      @@nwwy I wanted to go for the 16/40 48gb RAM but the price in Europe (+600€) doesn't really justify it, especially to save a few seconds on export. I don't really care, on my MBP 16 M1 pro 32gb 1to I haven't had any slowdowns due to the ram or the beach ball, so that should do it.

    • @_Chris390
      @_Chris390 7 місяців тому

      Fly to an American state with zero sales tax, like Alaska, and try to get an Education discount. It's like a free holiday, and you will save more even on top of the price of the flights. M3 Max can be £1000-1500 cheaper than the UK / EU that way. @@mathieuceccarini1841

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      Totally!

  • @stephanhalter9031
    @stephanhalter9031 7 місяців тому +1

    Danke!

  • @IOT4747
    @IOT4747 7 місяців тому

    Thanks. Another excellent review. It seems quite clear that for intense/pro users what matters is good amount of memory and fast SSD. I think a very good machine to think about is the new Imac M3 with 24 GB and 1TB SSD. This configuration is the best value for money and it can handle intense tasks if required.

    • @_Chris390
      @_Chris390 7 місяців тому +1

      Still only 8+10 cores though. Needs Pro and Max versions, 27", SD card slot, etc.

    • @IOT4747
      @IOT4747 7 місяців тому

      @@_Chris390, this would be my ideal and desired machine.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      if you won't hit the limit of the M3 then sure

  • @ManojVerma-rv9oq
    @ManojVerma-rv9oq 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi ArtIsRight - I have seen lot of UA-cam channels but your approach to analyze multiple configurations is awesome. My needs are pretty simple - I do financial modeling using excel with data tables, macros and formulas which are volatile like - offset, lookups etc. I don't multitask..just safari with 2-3 tabs, Apple Music and teams for calls and pdf. I intend to buy MBP-M2Pro-12C (8C+4E) with 16GB or MBP-M3Pro-12C (6C+6E). Not sure which one is good..I think having more P-cores will help. Can you please advise ? Thanks a lot. Manoj

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      if you can save a good amount of money, M2 Pro. Either will do just fine really

  • @tatoarg9508
    @tatoarg9508 16 днів тому +1

    I'm not a computer guy. I just want to make an informed pick not to waste money. This was just excellent. Thanks

  • @koonsickgreen6272
    @koonsickgreen6272 3 місяці тому

    Dude your voice is so friggin young. Leave some egg yokes for the rest of us. Love the vid. thank you

  • @Ra-Hul-K
    @Ra-Hul-K 3 місяці тому +1

    exactly what i searched for!

  • @dccoletrain
    @dccoletrain 7 місяців тому

    You might have sold me on getting the $2k machine tomorrow…. Was debating it vs refurbished M2 Pro

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      That is a great value as well!

  • @mvp_kryptonite
    @mvp_kryptonite 7 місяців тому +6

    Excellent analysis. These system configurations Apple stipulate are so leading for spending more. $400 just to move up the ram from base is nuts

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      Yup, it happens many times that are engineering reason behind that as well

  • @youblumax
    @youblumax 7 місяців тому

    As always pretty impressive demo & content explanation 👍🏻
    I‘d like to see DxO Photolab (7) in your comparisons, if possible.

  • @nguyenminh7780
    @nguyenminh7780 7 місяців тому

    Hey art, idk if u can but can you do a blender sample scene render time comparison on the macbooks ?

  • @spinkastepan
    @spinkastepan Місяць тому

    Díky!

  • @TheVinkass
    @TheVinkass 3 місяці тому

    Thank you very much for this detailed review. My situation is this:
    I'm considering to buy either MBP 16", 12/18, 36GB, 512GB SSD OR MBP 14", 11/14, 36GB, 1TB.
    Which one do you think I should get when we take in account the additional screen size, bigger battery and cooling capabilities of 16" as well as the unbinned chip. The only that worries me is the 512GB SSD on 16", do you think that would cause a bottleneck effect since 1TB SSD's seem to be faster? Do you think that 512GB SSD would in any way hurt better performance on the 16" as opposed to 1TB on 14"? Difference in price is minimal, cca 150 USD
    Thank you in advance.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому +1

      choose the size that works best for what you need. never mind the SSD size to speed ratio, they are on par, and even if they are not, which they are, you'll be hard press to see any variation on the daily. 16 has bigger battery but then you are carrying that around as well. Better thermo sure, but the performance between 14 and 16 of the same SoC are identical. All SoC are binned, just how much, either way variation between the two is null at best. Like I said, I would choose the size that you need.

  • @charan45482
    @charan45482 6 місяців тому +1

    is the base M3 Pro good enough for smooth 4K playback and unreal engine? (No raytracing or high resolution textures, developing a cartoon 3D game)

  • @fromfrancestoyou
    @fromfrancestoyou 4 місяці тому

    THANK YOU.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  4 місяці тому

      You're welcome!

    • @fromfrancestoyou
      @fromfrancestoyou 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ArtIsRight i bought the 14 inch m3 pro with the upgraded 36gb ram yesterday by the way :) now just anxiously waiting for it lol thanks again for this video!

  • @nitayweiss
    @nitayweiss 3 місяці тому

    I makefull hd editing videos,doing zoom meeings, using Canva, after effects, premire/final Cut while using the web and want a good battery. Do you recommand the 11/14 and 18GB for me?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому

      You should be fine with that, a good base line machine

  • @ahenrycc84
    @ahenrycc84 7 місяців тому +3

    28:24 Do you think the 4 extra GPU cores on the top spec M3P chip would make a bigger difference if you were to play more intensive AAA games (I plan to install virtual windows and install AAA games in it)?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      I don't think you'll see much variations

  • @_Chris390
    @_Chris390 7 місяців тому +10

    Useful info, thank you. Considering either the 12/18 core M3 Pro 14", or the 16/40 core M3 Max 16". These comparisons are helpful. Near the end you called the 16 inch a "12 inch" and then again the "16GB model" ha, but never mind. Great info still. Much, much better than nearly all other Mac videos on UA-cam, which are rushed out for views, and effectively just recite the press releases with no meaningful testing - "Oooh Space Black has less fingerprints - Hype!" - I really do not care... Silver will always be the best anyway :)

  • @jzhai7930
    @jzhai7930 6 місяців тому

    @ArtIsRight Dear Sir, is there any difference of internal structure between 14”MBP equipped 11/14 SOC and 12/18 SOC?

  • @jlgnyc11
    @jlgnyc11 5 місяців тому

    Is it possible that the 16” screen has an effect on performance that makes the comparison not quite apples to apples (I.e., has a speed drain for the larger screen real estate?)

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  5 місяців тому

      no, all of them has display engine that does not load the GPU

  • @TheDanEdwards
    @TheDanEdwards 7 місяців тому +1

    Same with the video yesterday, your charts have "13MBP M3", and should they not read "14MBP M3"? I get for the older laptops the "13" was applicable, but the M3 does not come in a 13".

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +2

      Yup didn't catch that. Thanks for pointing that out.

  • @christofferroeen7222
    @christofferroeen7222 4 місяці тому

    Hey brother, love your channel can't wait to see what's more to come!
    i am about to purchase a Macbook fore Premiere video editing. but i can't decide on:
    MacBook M3 Pro 36GB RAM 512GB SSD 14-core 14.2 = 2.750 US
    or
    MacBook M3 Pro 18GB RAM 512GB SSD 14-core 14.2 = 2.140 US
    WHAT DO YOU THINK?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  4 місяці тому

      I would choose 36GB if you can stretch it. Also price should jump by $400 US, not sure what ma I missing here, seems like all of the specs are the same beside RAM

  • @paulaggarao
    @paulaggarao 7 місяців тому

    Hello.. Can you compare the M1 Pro 16 inch vs the M3 Max base model 16"

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Results are in the charts or you can check this video out as well ua-cam.com/video/5r2D7EG4M38/v-deo.html

  • @ArcaneStellaris
    @ArcaneStellaris 3 місяці тому

    For AI/computer vision do you recommend the 14in 11 core cpu or the 12 core cpu, both would have 18gb ram

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому

      very little to no variation, still the same 16 NPU regardless of CPU variations.

  • @AmritSingh9
    @AmritSingh9 3 місяці тому +1

    Firstly, thank you Art! What a deeply considered, useful analysis and presentation. I’ll be getting the M3P 14” 36GB 1 TB.
    My question is about 11 vs. 12 cores vis a vis future-proofing: the difference doesn’t seem worthwhile now, but for those of us who want to keep this machine for 5+ years, might we see a more tangible benefit to 12 cores later? Or is the difference in speed for tasks likely to be essentially the same as now? (Also, will the fan be any more or less likely to kick on depending on number of cores?)
    Once again - huge thanks, and really appreciate your presentational ways and the kind intention with which you offer your work!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому +1

      I would say that the 1 extra cores will do you very little down the road.

    • @AmritSingh9
      @AmritSingh9 3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you! Do you see any downside to upgrading to 12 core besides money?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому +1

      no downside like I said for the money spend you are better off upgrading your RAM, you'll see more performance jump, for the price significantly more.

    • @AmritSingh9
      @AmritSingh9 3 місяці тому +1

      Thank you again 🙏🏽 subscribing and will do what I can to help your channel succeed!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  3 місяці тому +1

      thank you!

  • @neyomt1996
    @neyomt1996 2 місяці тому

    Amazing job what you did with your videos! Can you help me to decide please, if I should go with 14" M2 Max 12/38, 32GB, 2TB SSD or pay 300 extra for 14" M3 Pro 12/18, 36GB, 1TB SSD? Im doing mostly photo editing simultaneously in Lightroom and Photoshop for retouching (portraits, weddings, product photos), some music playing in background and Google chrome opened too. Im curious if I should go for newer generation for more battery life and less heat since its 14" size, or go for more powerful chip. Is it the same perfomance for my type of use? Or M2 Max will be more powerful? Because I would love to have less heat, less noise from the fans and better battery life but if its less power and better deal overall, I guess I would go with MAX.
    Thank you very much for your help!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  2 місяці тому

      I would probably choose M2 Max in this case over the M3 Pro

  • @KervLanger
    @KervLanger 7 місяців тому +1

    Could you compare the base M2 pro MacBook Pro and the base M3 pro MacBook Pro ?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      don't have that machine in the studio

  • @kottapalliram
    @kottapalliram 5 днів тому +1

    26:42 14 m3 pro advice is very helpful for me thanks

  • @brandouilleracing6212
    @brandouilleracing6212 7 місяців тому

    The "slower" 512 SSD (fewer chips, less bandwidth) has some effect on export tests with M2P. Pretty sure the 1TB will give results closer to M3P.
    M3 : nice upgrade for M1 systems.
    M3 pro : to expensive versus M2P

  • @christopher3d475
    @christopher3d475 7 місяців тому

    When you show all the graphs, it's hard to see the two reference systems your testing amongst all the other systems. I would do something to highlight those so they're more quickly obvious at a glance.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      I'll consider that, thanks

  • @ahenrycc84
    @ahenrycc84 7 місяців тому +3

    28:24 excellent analysis Art! I’ve been using the early-2015 base MacBook Pro for the past 8 years, but I think you’ve just convinced me to upgrade to the base 14” M3P MacBook Pro with 32GB ram and base storage (rather than the top spec M3P chip with 18GB ram). Question for you though: do you think the 4 extra GPU cores on the top spec M3P chip would make a bigger difference if you were to play more intensive AAA games (I plan to install virtual windows and install Windows compatible AAA games into it) compared to other base M3P chip?

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Thanks

    • @kanwar2712
      @kanwar2712 7 місяців тому +1

      I would also love a take on this situation as i just downgraded from 18c gpu to the 14c gpu, I keep going back and forth on the decision in case I start doing more 3d renderings and playing more games on my mac...

  • @arvi8843
    @arvi8843 7 місяців тому

    Interesting comparison. What about M2 air 24gb vs M3 14 24gb? If I can't afford the preferred 36gb on M3 Pro. Which one is better? I mostly do coding and not video editing and have one ultrawide monitor. My current machine is 2015 MBP. Thanks!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Get the M3 Pro, forego the regular M3 that is all I can say

    • @arvi8843
      @arvi8843 7 місяців тому

      @@ArtIsRight Thank you! 🙌

  • @puntoeffe_
    @puntoeffe_ 3 місяці тому +1

    Gracias

  • @user-yk5rb8jk1w
    @user-yk5rb8jk1w 4 місяці тому

    Right now macbooks are sale. And the 14 m3 pro 11/14 36+512 and 14 m3 pro 12/18 18+1024 are the same price. Which one should I choose? Could you give me some advice? Thanks!

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  4 місяці тому

      I would go for more RAM

  • @pk333
    @pk333 4 місяці тому

    Do we really need to upgrade the unified memory to 36gb in the M3 Pro14" base model, incase we use it for running tensorflow and machine learning algorithms most of the time ?
    Please help me decide.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  4 місяці тому

      probably not, but it does not hurt to have more

  • @tomdearie5165
    @tomdearie5165 7 місяців тому +2

    So I have a pro question I’d like to get your thoughts on:
    For those of us working with many high res images in Lightroom Classic, the most critical speed bottlenecks are the executional ones: e.g., instantaneous viewing of the high res image as you flip from one image to the next, followed probably by instantaneous execution of brush masking etc. These are operations that involve a lot of rapid back and forth interaction between the human and the machine.
    Exports and imports where the computer is working on its own are less of an issue, as we can organize our paperclips or argue with our spouses about the price of a new wildlife lens while the computer works. 😀
    What would you say is the order of importance on which spec to ramp up for those interactive executional functions?
    Cheers and thanks. 👍

    • @mvp_kryptonite
      @mvp_kryptonite 7 місяців тому +1

      I would always choose making your time as efficient as possible, since the computer can do what it does while as you say, do something more constructive with your time. Whether that’s possible who knows, I think that’s where AI comes in. I’m a canon DPP user and beginning to use Lightroom, Photoshop and Premiere and the M series chips really do smoke the previous i5 MBP 2014 13 inch I used

    • @bladerealm124
      @bladerealm124 7 місяців тому +1

      I'd also be curious to know how much the configs differ in this regard as this is where I noticed limitations on my 2020 M1 16gb the most. Using the clone stamp tool can be painfully slow on high res images. Click an area to remove a spec of dust, wait several seconds for it to clone out, click the next spec, wait several seconds, etc. Same thing with brushing/masking it can begin to lag significantly.

    • @bladerealm124
      @bladerealm124 7 місяців тому

      @@mvp_kryptonitehe's saying these are the tasks where you wouldn't be doing anything else. You're just working on an image, you click the next image in lightroom, it takes a few seconds to render the full res, then click to zoom to 100%, wait several seconds for the image to re-render, then use the clone stamp tool, wait several seconds for it to clone, etc. If going from the Pro at ~$2700 to the Max at ~$3900 makes a significant difference in these tasks, it may be worth spending the extra money.

    • @tomdearie5165
      @tomdearie5165 7 місяців тому +1

      Yes.
      The key for my work is avoiding a delay when examining images (the pause between showing the preview and the full res image as I move from shot to shot) and avoiding the spinning ball when I’m inputting edits via mouse or tablet.
      I’m about to move from Intel to M series, and am looking to maximize the bang for the buck.
      In every other major platform change since the original Mac (yes, I’’ve been at this for that long), RAM has always been the first priority, with processing speed coming after.
      So far, the testing shows what I would expect: adequate head room in RAM and SSD storage are important in this iteration too.
      But I’d like to get the thoughts of someone who has had hands on experience testing the new platform to confirm.
      Cheers!
      T.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      RAM and then SoC and then SSD. Upgrade them in that order / priority

  • @flashscanhd
    @flashscanhd 3 місяці тому +1

    Art, very good, you are right. I would take the 512 GB SSd and a G->Drive Professional extern Thunderbolt 3 drive ,

  • @adl0815
    @adl0815 7 місяців тому +11

    I'd really be interested in a comparison between the M3 Max with 14 core vs 16 core.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +2

      Coming Tuesday 11/14 - the date not CPU/GPU in the M3 Pro base ;)

    • @adl0815
      @adl0815 7 місяців тому

      Great! This will definitely be interesting, also in comparison to the M3 Pro and maybe even the good old M2 Pro. That being said, take your time, not sure how healthy your pace of pumping out those videos is. ❤ @@ArtIsRight

  • @BnR_Tech
    @BnR_Tech 4 місяці тому

    Which would be better to go with m2 pro MacBook Pro 14 vs MacBook Pro 14 m3 16 gb also is it worth spending more money for the m3 pro vs the m2 pro.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  4 місяці тому

      If you can save money on the M2 Pro which you can somewhat do that now. or even better yet get the 14 M2 Max from Costco for about 2K right now that is a great deal. But in general I would go with Pro SoC vs non Pro. And regarding M3 Pro vs M2 Pro, the variation is small, so If you can get a better spec M2 Pro, i.e. more memory/RAM, SSD then I would go with that

  • @eatsimplefood
    @eatsimplefood 7 місяців тому +1

    hi, is fan noise a problem with this 14" model? Thanks!

    • @_Chris390
      @_Chris390 7 місяців тому +2

      With the M3 Max, the 14" will be the loudest and warmest with the worst battery life. Better to get the 16" M3 Max or 14" M3 Pro.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      relative, just get what you need.

  • @atgred
    @atgred 7 місяців тому +1

    Please don’t forget the Logic Pro benchmarks!! Not all of us do video or photos

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      I don't use that pap

  • @hamsolo9096
    @hamsolo9096 7 місяців тому +6

    Finally, your stats help me decide. I was half hearted between MBP 14" 12/18 - 18gb / 1TB vesus MBP 14" 11/14 - 36GB / 1TB
    I've been researching for days now and the numbers you showed doesn't really justify the SoC difference of 12/18 vs 11/14
    I'm gonna get more ram then :)

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Awesome!

    • @hamsolo9096
      @hamsolo9096 7 місяців тому

      @@ArtIsRight by the way, hope you can do another video for these two again that will benchmark the gpu alone. Or can i get your insights if they are not too far off as well.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      not going to see much change, marginal at best

  • @DigiDriftZone
    @DigiDriftZone 7 місяців тому

    Base vs Top Max next please :)

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      Coming either Monday or Tuesday.

  • @frankspecht632
    @frankspecht632 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm Logic User: Logic use the P-Cores and with 6 P-Cores vs 5 P-Cores Logic use more Tracks

  • @eeveefromwall-e8459
    @eeveefromwall-e8459 7 місяців тому +1

    I want to upgrade from my 2019 13” base model mbp. And hearing u recommend at least 32gb of ram. I’m considering buying the m3pro 14” with 36gb of ram and 1tb of storage. Would you recommend that configuration for someone who mostly uses it school work, coding, video/movie viewing and who uses After Effects for personal matters like editing short videos (normally within 10-20min) in 1080p and every now and then 4k. Idk my mbp now can barely run After Effects and that’s mainly why I want to upgrade and also SSD of course like 128gb is trash 😂 I can’t keep anything on it everything has to be kept in an external 🙃. Or is it overkill? I’d like to be able to use it for as along as I can too.

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому +1

      If you are not using the machine for intense photo work you might be able to get away with the base 14" model. Something to consider. But the Base M3 Pro in the 14" is a sweet machine

    • @marcOandrz
      @marcOandrz 4 місяці тому

      What did u choose?

    • @eeveefromwall-e8459
      @eeveefromwall-e8459 4 місяці тому

      @@marcOandrz I went for the m3pro 14” with the 36gb ram and 1tb storage . I hadn’t upgraded since 2019. And if I was gonna spend money on a MacBook I might as well spend it on the one I know would do the job and more. I’ve been using it for a little over a month and it’s light years better than my previous MacBook. It runs everything I need so nicely and I don’t have to worry about storage.

    • @marcOandrz
      @marcOandrz 4 місяці тому

      wow nice to hear. I'm still considering whether to go for 36 ram base or 1 TB as I'm also looking at my budget. I have similar usecases, but I'm not sure if 512 will be enough for me. But I think I'll go for the ram as I have alternatives (external or cloud storage). Thanks for the quick reply ;)@@eeveefromwall-e8459

    • @marcOandrz
      @marcOandrz 4 місяці тому

      wow nice to hear. I'm still considering whether to go for 36 ram base or 1 TB as I'm also looking at my budget. I have similar usecases, but I'm not sure if 512 will be enough for me. But I think I'll go for the ram as I have alternatives (external or cloud storage). Thanks for the quick reply ;)@@eeveefromwall-e8459

  • @charliesdrones6413
    @charliesdrones6413 7 місяців тому +2

    Great comparison like to know about the fan noise with the 14 inch High End 12/18 M3 Pro compared with the 14 inch Basic M3 Max

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      Don't have the 14 Max base, so it would be difficult to tell.

    • @charliesdrones6413
      @charliesdrones6413 7 місяців тому

      Ok thank's I enjoyed your review

  • @5GRobo
    @5GRobo 7 місяців тому +3

    The sweet spots are:
    1) M1 Pro unbinded Rerfurbed from Amazon ($1250)
    2) M3 Pro base 18GB ($2000)
    3) M3 Pro Max base 36GB ($3000)

    • @ArtIsRight
      @ArtIsRight  7 місяців тому

      all depends on the need and workflow.

    • @chriskmr734
      @chriskmr734 7 місяців тому

      What is a M3 Pro Max Base? A M3 Pro or a M3 Max? And 32GB don’t even exist on the M3 Chips.

    • @5GRobo
      @5GRobo 7 місяців тому

      @@chriskmr734M3 Pro Max 36gb

  • @mcdjon2524
    @mcdjon2524 11 днів тому

    in a 32gb Unified Memory 14MBP M3 pro do you think we will have heat problems ?

  • @Nabeel-Ali-Raza
    @Nabeel-Ali-Raza 7 місяців тому

    Sir could you please make a video comparison between macbook air 15 16gb/512gb vs macbook pro m3 base

  • @vannarothnay7089
    @vannarothnay7089 7 днів тому

    Just got MBP 14" M3 base ..more than enough for me