IMHO one of the best and comprehensive UA-cam videos I have seen so far in terms of NAND usage in Apple devices. It can be clearly seen that lots of efforts went into making this video to make it easy understanding the problems and possibilities of upgrading Apple devices. Good job.
The amount of corporate abuse apple does to its own customers with proprietary ram, SSD and other solutions is just terrible. SSD are not the best on the market and yet are 5-6 times more expensive, ram probably is the same.
Soldering down the RAM, especially if it's LPDDR RAM like the ones Apple uses, has real end user-facing advantages. Soldering down the SSD is the real obvious problem.
@@utubekullanicisiwhy not give user an option to choose ? Like they give for choosing ram and other things. I’d surely sacrifice whatever advantages are there with non removable parts for a mac which I can upgrade fix easily
@@leetkhan choose what? to solder or not to solder? there are no advantages of soldering down SSD apart from you needing to pay for the whole motherboard when your SSD dies
Jeez - I can totally believe this vid is the result of 6 months of work! - And not just any 6 months of work, but work by an electronic repair genius. I can’t imagine the amount of effort this took!
I would appreciate Apple’s approach of soldering everything in if, the components lasted forever - but they don’t. Let alone the option of upgrading SSD or RAM if so desired.
It would've been fine if Apple just soldered normal NVMe protocol SSDs and used a a seperate highly durable ROM for Intel UEFI/iBoot 2. But Apple intentionally uses NAND with proprietary firmware in RAID 0 to stop any possible repairs. They're openly anti-repair and hostile to consumers, so anyone who buys theit products deserve this treatment.
Planned obsolescence, and also getting you to spend more money. if you want 32gb of ram instead of 16gb they want $400, if you want 1TB instead of 512gb SSD they want $400, and people will pay for it. So the best thing you can do really, is buy apple stocks and not their products :)
@@Chopper153 , I wouldn't say everyone who buys their products deserves this treatment. Back in 2014 I bought an iPad and several months later a MBP, not knowing anything about the repairability or upgrade ability of these devices. I only learned about it over the years. Only recently, I needed to replace the MBP's battery with some effort, the SSD is proprietary but replacing 256GB with 512GB will do for a while, and luckily I decided for a 16GB RAM model at the time of purchase. Well, in regards to the iPad, it's a different story. I just learned, that it's impossible to upgrade the OS or install an app, whose minimum OS version is above the installed OS version. My conclusion: If Apple doesn’t change and they probably won't for profits sake, I won't buy any of their products. First of all, I keep using what I got as long as technically possible.
this is actually amazing. Louis Rossmann would be proud of your approach of giving second life to highly integrated electronics and making it serviceable in the process. I can't believe you went for designing your own SSD adapter unless you are sitting in Shenzhen.
Very Concise and straightforward, easily understandable and very jam packed with information. I commend you all for the compilation of this video. I truly enjoyed this video, and I liked how it's an hour long, like a movie 😅 (i love it) Keep up the good work! ❤
The amount of engineering that goes into making Apple hardware as anti-repair and anti-consumer as possible is amazing. They could've easily used NVMe storage on their thicker MacBook pro and Mac Studio desktop but went with the proprietary options just make people pay thousands of $ for storage upgrade. iSheeps are ok with this robbery, so who am I to complain lol.
I'm on a Windows laptop right now but as of now in regards to music production a Macbook is a better option. I too consider them iSheeps but soon or later I will buy a Mac anyway. It's a good (and expensive) product.
I don't know I thought they were but on MacRumors forum they say they have to do all this cause of the like design, form function, and whatnot. I'm still skeptical but think they don't care regardless.
I don't know any Mac users that are OK with this. It's just one of the things we begrudgingly put up with in order to use MacOS. In portables, we're less worried about it because we already expect solid state in a tablet, so a laptop isn't that much different. But in the desktops? No. Nobody wants this at all. That the new Mac Pro is all solid state is a huge fail.
Just because people buy them doesn’t make them “sheep”. You got way to much hate for the people getting screwed. Point is other computers are trash and windows is trash. There’s isn’t many options
@@aguiremedia "Windows is trash"-- this is a subjective opinion. For me, macOS is trash, that OS doesn't even have basic window management. "You got way to much hate for the people getting screwed"-- People willingly buying non-repairable e-waste = sheep. "Point is other computers are trash"-- Who tf are you to say that? My current desktop is much more powerful than Apple's latest e-waste desktop (Mac Pro) and and also costs less. I could care less what Apple does, it's you who will get screwed when that cheap NAND flash in your mac fails. If the SSD in my PC fails, I'll just replace it in 5 minutes.
I don't think Louis rossman don't know it's but in case of many people they just bought a new one if they gonna lose all data anyway But in the case of Linus his just a IT guy doesn't do a kind of repair job then why his want to work with kine of messy things
This is the reason why I’m not getting an M laptop any time soon. Until they give us replaceable SSDs, I am not buying any Mac from Apple. I understand RAM soldering (faster access, shorter traces, etc) but SSD soldering??? SSDs die like batteries die. They are consumable and they die over time. That’s why TBW is important when buying a used Mac. You can’t replace that crap.
This video is very well made and really a joy to watch and highly informative. Your style of presentation is really good, your didactics are better than the ones of most of my professors 😂
About the T2: If we have the firmware copied, I can imagine that it would be possible to design a board to convert an NVMe controller to 4 NANDs firmware to solve this problem for the best. So sad to discover the T2 is so hard to replace storage with. :/ Also: Can't you check the lifespan of a NAND with the reader before re-program it and overwriting its lifespan value?
Amazing video series. You made it very easy for a non-techie like myself to follow. I’m currently getting my 2019 16” MBP repaired for exactly this issue. I wonder if they are using your research as a guide?
i rarely comment on videos, but this is an amazing investigation! Especially the bit with the prototype m1pro/max macbook pro. Push it to your favorite content creators to blow some smoke y'all
This was the single, most junky yet educative video I've ever seen. I own an M2 MacBook and even though I love how well it runs everything, I do also own a PC with literally one spare part for everything I've got inside it. That's why I don't understand people buying Mac mini's. If something is supposed to be your main computer, it should have short maintenance times. Something breaks? Your use a spare or order a new one and are back and running within a day, or 20 minutes...
Even I am not so interested in these hardware, I am still willing to spend some time to finish digesting them because your presentation is so good and easy to follow. Great job I really appreciate you this.
This is very interesting. I thought it was impossible to upgrade/replace the SSDs on newer Macs, but, somehow it seems you succeded. Of course you are selling a product, so I need to hear from independent sources how well it works, but this sounds like a game changer. I consider refurbished MacBooks with an adapter for SSD and a new SSD installed to be an interesting product in the future. I would rather buy that than a new one!
Brilliant guys, you are so smart! This means not all is lost if one of my MacBooks dies because of this stupid NAND issue. I just hope NAND producers will work with JCID and you guys to be able to upgrade and replace drives in the new M1/M2 machines. Anything exposed to electricity will fail eventually, not after 10 Yiiiiieears, but at anytime. Important to have AppleCare+ on your expensive unit to avoid this, but there is now an option. Thank you so much, folks, you have done the tech community a great favour by taking the time to document and share this.
Great work all round, this is how the field moves forward and computers can be used for years to come that would have been ewaste. I wonder if you guys will do a one about upgrading the ram too ?
Thanks for explaining these complex things in simple terms. Are there any computers out there with socketed NAND? Maybe they laid out that option in case right to repair legislation forces their hand? I honestly can’t see them going back to replaceable storage unless that happens.
It is called NVME and SATA both of which are very cheap without needing extensive repair work to keep going. This is entirely on Apple for both being cheap and shitty to their customers.
This is the very reason I swapped out our 2018 intel Mac mini for a self built PC for our church presentation computer. Luckily ProPresenter 7 now works just as good on the pc as it does the mac. I have 2x2tb Cardea nvme drives with one being cloned to the other every week. If one dies, we can immediately swap to booting off the other with little to no data loss and then spend $120 and replace the one that died if it's out of the 5yr warranty.
Thank you for making a complete video, excellent content, explained in detail, I have the JC programmer, but it still has very few memory combination options, very good video, I thank you personally for the dedication and time
fantastic friend your video, just to give some additional information, having the jcprogramer programmer, known as P13, together with the jcrepair software, it is possible to use any nand memory from iPhone cards too, I hope this information helps
Terimakasih atas segala modifikasi yg anda tunjukkan, sungguh luar biasa..saya sebenarnya sangat tertarik untuk custom MBP 13 2012 dg Nvme tp sayangnya terlalu berang di ongkir😅.. Tetap lanjutkan dan terus lakukan custom pd Mac..
Amazing video!! For the Nand reprogrammer, why can’t the programmer copy over the TBW from the existing good chips and rewrite that back when flashing?
Hey, i got a mac mini m1, will you be making a video about upgrading the Memory? I sadly only got 8gb of memory n would want to upgrade to 16, but i can't find the 16gb chips anywhere. So if you do a vid please let us know where to get the chips. Thanks, your videos are great!
Consumers: "Very astute, Apple. You put your BIOS in your SSDs and when they die, the whole machine dies." Apple: "BIOSes don't go in the SSD?" Consumers: "Apple, you're diabolical"
Это было лучшее видео что я когда либо смотрел! Так много исчерпывающей информации я давно не видел, спасибо авторам видео! Вам отдельное место в раю нужно выделить)
Great research. That was a truly entertaining watch and now that LTT/iFixit failure makes total sense. But I do have to say, it is needlessly a pain in the rear on the part of Apple's engineers to mandate that the firmware of the NAND chips (and in the case of Studio/Pro, the chips that live on the SSD kits), when there's two completely identical looks-like-M.2-but-isn't-actually-M.2 sockets, has to be programmed for one or the other socket when everything from their appearance right down to functionality is also completely identical. And it's outright stupid to slap iBoot on NAND right next to userland and trusting that nothing bad will ever happen to it there (be it by accident or a malicious actor), instead of say keeping it on-chip in the main SoC. Because as much as the SMCs and BIOS/UEFI chips of old sucked in their own ways, at least problems with both of those were far easier to deal with in comparison to this gongshow introduced with T2 and later. That, and it'd allow Apple to keep that inaccessible boot device/question mark folder functionality around so users know to run for their Time Machine backup.
I huge amount of technical information which explains a lot, absolution fantastic video and well put together, please keep going and hope you get a whole load of new subscribers... MANY THANKS!!!
45:30 For Apple Silicon Macs, as replacement/upgrade SSDs are now released for Mac Pro (M2 Ultra), will the Direct Transplant Mac Pro SSD Kit work (when upgrading/replacing SSD sets from another Apple Silicon Mac, either by direct replacement (Mac Studio/Mac Pro), or microsoldering?
Thanks A Lot iBoff RCC Team. Fabulous Job Done. The Amount Of Time, Money & Energy Invested Is Incredible. Hats Off To You Guys. Keep The Good Work Up.
Thank you for the brilliant extensive video you prepared. Much appriciated! But I want to make sure of something. You said that it is not possible to replace first generation m1 nands with models like m1 pro or m1 max, because one is from the blue region while the other from the green region in the table. I get that. But isn't there color regions for t2 macs as well? is it possible to replace any t2 mac nand in between them? So can I for example move nands from macbook air 13" 2018 to work in macbook pro 16" a2141 for example? In other words assuming the landing rules are satisfied, is it possible to swap nands from different boards having diferent board ids and have them work without programming them if they are all t2 chipped boards? Thank you in advance.
Apple had NAND socket in their prototype M1 MacBooks, and they don't in production models! Thanks for that info. I think Apple did that to increase prototype testing and save production cost. However, to pressure Apple to put NAND socket in production MacBooks, users need to be aware and demand to make it happen. Otherwise, no-one will ask, and Apple will keep doing what they do.
You're crushing the topic! Well done. And we must admit that Apple is a mean company indeed to mess so much with these NANDS so much and do not allow for easy fix/upgrade. My next laptop will not be from Apple because of this.
I refuse to use any computer with soldered and paired storage. iMac 2019 is the last model I would use from Apple until things change. I can not afford to lose access to all of the NANDs when only one is failing and lose all my work, and for me, online backups are not an option since I handle TB size projects.
Thanks so much for this video, it is pure gold! According to your chart NAND from A2337 can be used on A2338 I installed 512Gb from A2337 on a A2338 but I get error 4014 when restoring, if I put original NAND back all works fine and restore gives no errors. Are you sure about this?
Maybe just to clarify. In case one of my NAND Chips in a M1 computer breaks and it is not possible to restore the firmware of this single NAND, the NAND Chips can replaced through a full set of NAND's from a different Logic Board without reprogramming with JC just through Apple Configurator? Or do the new set of NANDS has to completely be reprogrammed with the exact same Firmware as the ones before (including the broken ones) because if it works like this the MacBook would be never ever restorable in you can't reach the firmware of the one broken NAND Chip. Thanks in advance for an answer. And how is this whole thing behaving in M1 and M2 iPads containing just one NAND Chip. Are they only for disposable if the NAND breaks and you can not copy the NAND's firmware? And is it possible to replace a M1/M2 iPad Pro with a iPhone 13 NAND, technically it is both ARM?
1) Apple Configurator brings over your device specific firmware from the internet when the donor NAND group is installed, all data on the old failed NAND group is lost and unable to be retrieved. It's a proprietary RAID. 2) A 256GB M2 iPad would contain 1x 256GB NAND. The NAND could be used for a M2 MacBook Air with 256GB storage. The iPad NAND is ONLY usable on 1x 256GB NAND M2 MacBooks. 3) No reprogramming method exists for replacement M1 or M2 NAND chips, therefore donor NAND group remain the only option. 4) If iPad gets replacement NAND, DFU restore just like a T2 or M1 MacBook to return the firmware back to the NAND. 5) iPhone 13 NAND is the same as iPhone 8 NAND IIRC so same rules apply.
Wow .. thanks for the comprehensive info. The EU should subject Apple to anti competitive/anti repair legislation investigation ... halt all sales until they resolve such practices..
This video is boom! Very well consolidated and presented, it is interactive with these very hard to swallow/complicated information. This video deserves an award. Well done!!! After some due diligent and watching this video, I believe Apple did not mass produce or sell the NANDs themselves yet is because they wanted to monopolise the market and make profit first while they still can. Although, they have already pocketed more than enough profits to date. They would still like to make their ROI looks promising and keeping up with the R&D for future upgrades. If the manufacturer started mass produce these, eventually we might have issue with fakes and defective NANDs flooding the market. Not only this will create a big mess for them to repair or sell, it will affect their market share big time. Just like how there are so many fake/defective Sdcards on the market right now. 10 times slower writing speed for 10 times cheaper the price.
Felicitari pt continut tinere, poti sa ma ajuti cu o informatie , sti cumva un loc safe in Europa unde as putea face upgrade de SSD la un Pro M1 ? Ms si spor la treaba
Lama betul saya cari component level repair di Selangor. Saya ada Macbook air 2013 kumpul habuk sebab saya pergi Lowyat dorang suruh replace logic board ja. Nanti ada budget saya datang!
Hello there - i ove this videos :) and i have a A1706 water damaged board - nearly all FETs are burnt - and condensators are gone - tried to read out data with data migration tool - but no reaction - do you know which components has to work to read out the data?
two questions. 1: what was that about the ocarina chip? mind elaborating on that? 2: have you tried to flash the firmware out of an iphone's nand chip to another chip, and using that chip, alone as it was supposed to be in the iphone, in a macbook? or are the chips different in some way between iphones/macbooks
1. Both 00-port and 01-port are enabled by the presence of the ocarina chip. When you cut/remove the 3.3v supply to this chip, the chip will turn off and thus the Port is turned off. In this case we want to turn off the 01-port. 2. We never tried it yet, but we believe iphone NAND from iphone 8-12 is called S4E(like in T2 mac), and starting iphone 13 it is called S5E(like for M1). Technically they might be compatible to each other but the firmware inside it must be different
@@iBoffRCChow do you do when you put two nands in the 00-port and the other two flp you leave them empty? Because it is not working in this case for me
@iBoffRCC when it comes to installing only 4 NANDs onto an 820-01700 board which originally had 5, you mentioned to remove the buck converter IC from the other wing. Just the 2 power ICs or all the parts surrounding these as well please?
You dont even have to remove the ocarina or tps62180. Ocarina will send enable signal to tps62180, so cutting off 3v3 supply for the ocarina is enough, and you can find a 3v3 bridge resistor for this. Who knows in future you want to install more than 5 NANDs on the other wing.
pretty amazing to see an a1990 with 128gb.. which was never produced this way... btw - was it taken as a 2x64gb pre-programmed set from donor board? if yes - from which model board? good job for this video! very interesting..
@@manuelserra3606 hi, 2 nands of 256GB from JC will work. Just leave the other 2 empty FLP as is. From the jc you can try to use: TSB 4226 X 2 for 128GB TSB 4227 X 2 for 256GB. It works for us on the 00 Port
@@iBoffRCC helloo thank you so much for answering!! I tried 2xTSB4226 programmed with jcp13 in A2141 and didnt work. I also tried 2xTSB4227 and 1xtsb4229 + 1xTSB4232 also didnt work
This video really good! I got here thanks to Louis Rossman
i got here from the algo but after watching louis rossman vids. really glad that there's a community digging into mac hardware.
All this amazing explanation while adding explosions and colored stuff and memes. I'm lovin every single second of this.
IMHO one of the best and comprehensive UA-cam videos I have seen so far in terms of NAND usage in Apple devices. It can be clearly seen that lots of efforts went into making this video to make it easy understanding the problems and possibilities of upgrading Apple devices. Good job.
Thank you for your time!
Brilliant presentation, very well put together IMO. Thanks for sharing the knowledge and the tremendous effort you endured. Fabulous!
The amount of corporate abuse apple does to its own customers with proprietary ram, SSD and other solutions is just terrible. SSD are not the best on the market and yet are 5-6 times more expensive, ram probably is the same.
Soldering down the RAM, especially if it's LPDDR RAM like the ones Apple uses, has real end user-facing advantages. Soldering down the SSD is the real obvious problem.
@@utubekullanicisiwhy not give user an option to choose ? Like they give for choosing ram and other things. I’d surely sacrifice whatever advantages are there with non removable parts for a mac which I can upgrade fix easily
@@leetkhan choose what? to solder or not to solder?
there are no advantages of soldering down SSD apart from you needing to pay for the whole motherboard when your SSD dies
ram really shouldn't fail but the SSD can and will fail at some point
Jeez - I can totally believe this vid is the result of 6 months of work! - And not just any 6 months of work, but work by an electronic repair genius. I can’t imagine the amount of effort this took!
I would appreciate Apple’s approach of soldering everything in if, the components lasted forever - but they don’t. Let alone the option of upgrading SSD or RAM if so desired.
For SSD and RAM obviously we need to prepare for car money, because it seems those upgrades or repairs cost as much as a car.
It would've been fine if Apple just soldered normal NVMe protocol SSDs and used a a seperate highly durable ROM for Intel UEFI/iBoot 2. But Apple intentionally uses NAND with proprietary firmware in RAID 0 to stop any possible repairs. They're openly anti-repair and hostile to consumers, so anyone who buys theit products deserve this treatment.
Planned obsolescence, and also getting you to spend more money. if you want 32gb of ram instead of 16gb they want $400, if you want 1TB instead of 512gb SSD they want $400, and people will pay for it. So the best thing you can do really, is buy apple stocks and not their products :)
@@Chopper153 , I wouldn't say everyone who buys their products deserves this treatment.
Back in 2014 I bought an iPad and several months later a MBP, not knowing anything about the repairability or upgrade ability of these devices. I only learned about it over the years.
Only recently, I needed to replace the MBP's battery with some effort, the SSD is proprietary but replacing 256GB with 512GB will do for a while, and luckily I decided for a 16GB RAM model at the time of purchase.
Well, in regards to the iPad, it's a different story. I just learned, that it's impossible to upgrade the OS or install an app, whose minimum OS version is above the installed OS version.
My conclusion: If Apple doesn’t change and they probably won't for profits sake, I won't buy any of their products. First of all, I keep using what I got as long as technically possible.
Louis Rossmann says the same....
Amazing. Mind boggling how technically advanced you are.
Agreed, Apple are gouging on SSD and lack of repair options.
Great video.
You can use new KICM233 on M1 machines. No need to salvage from another machine!
this is actually amazing. Louis Rossmann would be proud of your approach of giving second life to highly integrated electronics and making it serviceable in the process. I can't believe you went for designing your own SSD adapter unless you are sitting in Shenzhen.
I have no business or necessity in repairing a MacBook but.. i watched the full video and learnt a lot, so easy to understand... loved it
Very Concise and straightforward, easily understandable and very jam packed with information.
I commend you all for the compilation of this video.
I truly enjoyed this video, and I liked how it's an hour long, like a movie 😅 (i love it)
Keep up the good work!
❤
The amount of engineering that goes into making Apple hardware as anti-repair and anti-consumer as possible is amazing. They could've easily used NVMe storage on their thicker MacBook pro and Mac Studio desktop but went with the proprietary options just make people pay thousands of $ for storage upgrade. iSheeps are ok with this robbery, so who am I to complain lol.
I'm on a Windows laptop right now but as of now in regards to music production a Macbook is a better option. I too consider them iSheeps but soon or later I will buy a Mac anyway. It's a good (and expensive) product.
I don't know I thought they were but on MacRumors forum they say they have to do all this cause of the like design, form function, and whatnot. I'm still skeptical but think they don't care regardless.
I don't know any Mac users that are OK with this. It's just one of the things we begrudgingly put up with in order to use MacOS. In portables, we're less worried about it because we already expect solid state in a tablet, so a laptop isn't that much different. But in the desktops? No. Nobody wants this at all. That the new Mac Pro is all solid state is a huge fail.
Just because people buy them doesn’t make them “sheep”. You got way to much hate for the people getting screwed. Point is other computers are trash and windows is trash. There’s isn’t many options
@@aguiremedia "Windows is trash"-- this is a subjective opinion. For me, macOS is trash, that OS doesn't even have basic window management.
"You got way to much hate for the people getting screwed"-- People willingly buying non-repairable e-waste = sheep.
"Point is other computers are trash"-- Who tf are you to say that? My current desktop is much more powerful than Apple's latest e-waste desktop (Mac Pro) and and also costs less.
I could care less what Apple does, it's you who will get screwed when that cheap NAND flash in your mac fails. If the SSD in my PC fails, I'll just replace it in 5 minutes.
Louis rossmann and Linus need to see this video
I don't think Louis rossman don't know it's but in case of many people they just bought a new one if they gonna lose all data anyway
But in the case of Linus his just a IT guy doesn't do a kind of repair job then why his want to work with kine of messy things
@@basblm6095 maybe its good for linus to know, so he can blast this video to 10m+ viewers, and destroy apple’s anti consumer tactics..
yeah, it shouldnt be ilegal wasting our internet traffic on this nonsense
@@basblm6095 he's a consumer product guy, not an IT guy
This is the reason why I’m not getting an M laptop any time soon. Until they give us replaceable SSDs, I am not buying any Mac from Apple. I understand RAM soldering (faster access, shorter traces, etc) but SSD soldering??? SSDs die like batteries die. They are consumable and they die over time. That’s why TBW is important when buying a used Mac. You can’t replace that crap.
This is a video that everyone who is actually using a Mac should see!
This video is very well made and really a joy to watch and highly informative. Your style of presentation is really good, your didactics are better than the ones of most of my professors 😂
Yes.
This is by far one of the best videos I've seen in a while! The amount of R&D that went into this is insane. Thank you iBoff!
you guys are saving lives total respect
About the T2: If we have the firmware copied, I can imagine that it would be possible to design a board to convert an NVMe controller to 4 NANDs firmware to solve this problem for the best. So sad to discover the T2 is so hard to replace storage with. :/ Also: Can't you check the lifespan of a NAND with the reader before re-program it and overwriting its lifespan value?
As an apple user, Have learnt more through this video than I have ever. Fantastic video. Thank you so much
other channels look like noob to this one
@@selami32 Dosdude1?
Insane amount of work and brain went into making this video. My hat is off to you guys.
It has been years since I have felt the rush of getting such forbidden secret knowledge. Thank you for your work!
Amazing video series. You made it very easy for a non-techie like myself to follow. I’m currently getting my 2019 16” MBP repaired for exactly this issue. I wonder if they are using your research as a guide?
Is it possible to upgrade the SSD in the new M2 Pro/Max Macbooks, similar to fixing the dead ones?
Time for the EU to make it illegal to sell non-repairable computers
insane info, thanks iboff!! Coffee on me!!
hae to wait on replacing these drilled out ssd's till i have a donor board then! :)
Thank you!! we really appreciate it!
you've basically made me an expert in nand repair and diagnostics and i dont even have a mac lol. great concept teaching video!
Thank you for your time!
i rarely comment on videos, but this is an amazing investigation! Especially the bit with the prototype m1pro/max macbook pro. Push it to your favorite content creators to blow some smoke y'all
This was the single, most junky yet educative video I've ever seen.
I own an M2 MacBook and even though I love how well it runs everything, I do also own a PC with literally one spare part for everything I've got inside it. That's why I don't understand people buying Mac mini's. If something is supposed to be your main computer, it should have short maintenance times. Something breaks? Your use a spare or order a new one and are back and running within a day, or 20 minutes...
I legit just watch an hour of mac repair video. This dude is hilarious 😂
This video is very informative and yet entertaining 🙏🏽 kudos to iBoff RCC
this clearly explains how apple is trying to make it harder and harder to repair your mackbook. This was a brilliant explanation.
Even I am not so interested in these hardware, I am still willing to spend some time to finish digesting them because your presentation is so good and easy to follow. Great job I really appreciate you this.
5:09 brought tears of joy to my eyes. This is amazing!
Wow! You answered to all of the world so many questions! Thank you for the video!
brilliant explanation and high quality materials in the video.
thank you for watching!
Highest quality content, deserves way more views
This is very interesting. I thought it was impossible to upgrade/replace the SSDs on newer Macs, but, somehow it seems you succeded. Of course you are selling a product, so I need to hear from independent sources how well it works, but this sounds like a game changer.
I consider refurbished MacBooks with an adapter for SSD and a new SSD installed to be an interesting product in the future. I would rather buy that than a new one!
Brilliant guys, you are so smart! This means not all is lost if one of my MacBooks dies because of this stupid NAND issue. I just hope NAND producers will work with JCID and you guys to be able to upgrade and replace drives in the new M1/M2 machines. Anything exposed to electricity will fail eventually, not after 10 Yiiiiieears, but at anytime. Important to have AppleCare+ on your expensive unit to avoid this, but there is now an option. Thank you so much, folks, you have done the tech community a great favour by taking the time to document and share this.
Great work all round, this is how the field moves forward and computers can be used for years to come that would have been ewaste. I wonder if you guys will do a one about upgrading the ram too ?
Thanks for explaining these complex things in simple terms. Are there any computers out there with socketed NAND? Maybe they laid out that option in case right to repair legislation forces their hand? I honestly can’t see them going back to replaceable storage unless that happens.
It is called NVME and SATA both of which are very cheap without needing extensive repair work to keep going. This is entirely on Apple for both being cheap and shitty to their customers.
@@MrKillswitch88 m.2
The macPro and the Mac Studio both have socketed NAND
This is the very reason I swapped out our 2018 intel Mac mini for a self built PC for our church presentation computer. Luckily ProPresenter 7 now works just as good on the pc as it does the mac. I have 2x2tb Cardea nvme drives with one being cloned to the other every week. If one dies, we can immediately swap to booting off the other with little to no data loss and then spend $120 and replace the one that died if it's out of the 5yr warranty.
Thank you for making a complete video, excellent content, explained in detail, I have the JC programmer, but it still has very few memory combination options, very good video, I thank you personally for the dedication and time
Awesome videos! Must take so much time & effort to create such fantastic informational content. You guys rock!
Bro I watched this entire video and I am amazed at all the information you provided. Excellent video and keep up the good work.
Really fantastic video with very effective animations. I appreciate the effort you must have put in to make these! Extremely educational thank you
As a former DUDES IN DENIAL... I've subscribed to your channel. Excellent Content. Well done sir!
Wow! Great info. I have a 2023 MacBook pro m2 max. I love the performance.. but fear repairs. This will prepare me.
fantastic friend your video, just to give some additional information, having the jcprogramer programmer, known as P13, together with the jcrepair software, it is possible to use any nand memory from iPhone cards too, I hope this information helps
good to know
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Amazing video!!
For the Nand reprogrammer, why can’t the programmer copy over the TBW from the existing good chips and rewrite that back when flashing?
Hey, i got a mac mini m1, will you be making a video about upgrading the Memory? I sadly only got 8gb of memory n would want to upgrade to 16, but i can't find the 16gb chips anywhere. So if you do a vid please let us know where to get the chips. Thanks, your videos are great!
Would it be possible to use the SSD Kits for the new M2 Ultra Mac Pro to upgrade any Mac Studio?
28:51 could you theoretically restore functionality?
this is gold. thank you for doing this kind of video
Been waiting for this video for a long time! Well done @iboff and thanks for the callout!
Great video. Thank you for it. I wish Apple still made upgradable computers.
4:49 where can we buy/order the specializer adapter for NVME for A1707 Macbook Pro 2017 15 inch touchbar?
Consumers: "Very astute, Apple. You put your BIOS in your SSDs and when they die, the whole machine dies."
Apple: "BIOSes don't go in the SSD?"
Consumers: "Apple, you're diabolical"
Это было лучшее видео что я когда либо смотрел!
Так много исчерпывающей информации я давно не видел, спасибо авторам видео! Вам отдельное место в раю нужно выделить)
Great research. That was a truly entertaining watch and now that LTT/iFixit failure makes total sense. But I do have to say, it is needlessly a pain in the rear on the part of Apple's engineers to mandate that the firmware of the NAND chips (and in the case of Studio/Pro, the chips that live on the SSD kits), when there's two completely identical looks-like-M.2-but-isn't-actually-M.2 sockets, has to be programmed for one or the other socket when everything from their appearance right down to functionality is also completely identical. And it's outright stupid to slap iBoot on NAND right next to userland and trusting that nothing bad will ever happen to it there (be it by accident or a malicious actor), instead of say keeping it on-chip in the main SoC. Because as much as the SMCs and BIOS/UEFI chips of old sucked in their own ways, at least problems with both of those were far easier to deal with in comparison to this gongshow introduced with T2 and later. That, and it'd allow Apple to keep that inaccessible boot device/question mark folder functionality around so users know to run for their Time Machine backup.
I huge amount of technical information which explains a lot, absolution fantastic video and well put together, please keep going and hope you get a whole load of new subscribers... MANY THANKS!!!
It’s the best presentation that I ever seen
Verry helpfull and clear video, nice too see great content like taht :) Keep going !
Incredible video. Really well explained. congrats.
45:30 For Apple Silicon Macs, as replacement/upgrade SSDs are now released for Mac Pro (M2 Ultra), will the Direct Transplant Mac Pro SSD Kit work (when upgrading/replacing SSD sets from another Apple Silicon Mac, either by direct replacement (Mac Studio/Mac Pro), or microsoldering?
this channel is pure gem. keep going!
Thank you for your time!
Can you upgrade the ssd storage from 256 to 1tb ?
Thanks A Lot iBoff RCC Team.
Fabulous Job Done.
The Amount Of Time, Money & Energy Invested Is Incredible.
Hats Off To You Guys.
Keep The Good Work Up.
Thank you for the brilliant extensive video you prepared. Much appriciated!
But I want to make sure of something. You said that it is not possible to replace first generation m1 nands with models like m1 pro or m1 max, because one is from the blue region while the other from the green region in the table. I get that. But isn't there color regions for t2 macs as well? is it possible to replace any t2 mac nand in between them? So can I for example move nands from macbook air 13" 2018 to work in macbook pro 16" a2141 for example? In other words assuming the landing rules are satisfied, is it possible to swap nands from different boards having diferent board ids and have them work without programming them if they are all t2 chipped boards? Thank you in advance.
the details put into this video is much appreciated…THANKS
What a brilliant video from the visual to the technical perspective, this is one of those few times when the algorithm actually works
Apple had NAND socket in their prototype M1 MacBooks, and they don't in production models! Thanks for that info. I think Apple did that to increase prototype testing and save production cost. However, to pressure Apple to put NAND socket in production MacBooks, users need to be aware and demand to make it happen. Otherwise, no-one will ask, and Apple will keep doing what they do.
Just need the “almighty push” from EU again
@@mahee96 for real. this 100%
Good explanation. And I’m very happy to see my name on your video in the software of the JC Repair as a part of the team
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Thank you for the video and this valuable information. Where can you get this A1706 NVme adapter?
4:26 bro what happened with that desoldered resistor on the right? isn't that necessary?
Calling anybody bro should get you a beat down.
You're crushing the topic! Well done. And we must admit that Apple is a mean company indeed to mess so much with these NANDS so much and do not allow for easy fix/upgrade. My next laptop will not be from Apple because of this.
I refuse to use any computer with soldered and paired storage. iMac 2019 is the last model I would use from Apple until things change. I can not afford to lose access to all of the NANDs when only one is failing and lose all my work, and for me, online backups are not an option since I handle TB size projects.
Thanks so much for this video, it is pure gold!
According to your chart NAND from A2337 can be used on A2338 I installed 512Gb from A2337 on a A2338 but I get error 4014 when restoring, if I put original NAND back all works fine and restore gives no errors.
Are you sure about this?
I have a 2019 MacBook Pro a2141. I’ve had it for 2 years and it still works. How do i know if the ssd is going to fail later?
Great video, thanks for explanation. Still I got a question: Can I use NAND from icloud locked donor ?
Yes you can
My m1 pro macbook pro is getting ssd integrity warning messages from Drive Genius. So does 38:32 chart still work for the M1Pro chip mac?
Can you do upgrades like upgrade storage from 256gig to 2tb? But also supply the chips?
Maybe just to clarify. In case one of my NAND Chips in a M1 computer breaks and it is not possible to restore the firmware of this single NAND, the NAND Chips can replaced through a full set of NAND's from a different Logic Board without reprogramming with JC just through Apple Configurator? Or do the new set of NANDS has to completely be reprogrammed with the exact same Firmware as the ones before (including the broken ones) because if it works like this the MacBook would be never ever restorable in you can't reach the firmware of the one broken NAND Chip. Thanks in advance for an answer.
And how is this whole thing behaving in M1 and M2 iPads containing just one NAND Chip. Are they only for disposable if the NAND breaks and you can not copy the NAND's firmware? And is it possible to replace a M1/M2 iPad Pro with a iPhone 13 NAND, technically it is both ARM?
1) Apple Configurator brings over your device specific firmware from the internet when the donor NAND group is installed, all data on the old failed NAND group is lost and unable to be retrieved. It's a proprietary RAID.
2) A 256GB M2 iPad would contain 1x 256GB NAND. The NAND could be used for a M2 MacBook Air with 256GB storage. The iPad NAND is ONLY usable on 1x 256GB NAND M2 MacBooks.
3) No reprogramming method exists for replacement M1 or M2 NAND chips, therefore donor NAND group remain the only option.
4) If iPad gets replacement NAND, DFU restore just like a T2 or M1 MacBook to return the firmware back to the NAND.
5) iPhone 13 NAND is the same as iPhone 8 NAND IIRC so same rules apply.
@@somesituation Thank you! :)
Wow .. thanks for the comprehensive info. The EU should subject Apple to anti competitive/anti repair legislation investigation ... halt all sales until they resolve such practices..
This video is boom! Very well consolidated and presented, it is interactive with these very hard to swallow/complicated information. This video deserves an award. Well done!!!
After some due diligent and watching this video, I believe Apple did not mass produce or sell the NANDs themselves yet is because they wanted to monopolise the market and make profit first while they still can. Although, they have already pocketed more than enough profits to date. They would still like to make their ROI looks promising and keeping up with the R&D for future upgrades.
If the manufacturer started mass produce these, eventually we might have issue with fakes and defective NANDs flooding the market. Not only this will create a big mess for them to repair or sell, it will affect their market share big time. Just like how there are so many fake/defective Sdcards on the market right now. 10 times slower writing speed for 10 times cheaper the price.
Glad the T1 macbook let you install custom ssd without firmware mod
Felicitari pt continut tinere, poti sa ma ajuti cu o informatie , sti cumva un loc safe in Europa unde as putea face upgrade de SSD la un Pro M1 ? Ms si spor la treaba
Insane explanation. Loved it. ❤❤❤😊
Lama betul saya cari component level repair di Selangor. Saya ada Macbook air 2013 kumpul habuk sebab saya pergi Lowyat dorang suruh replace logic board ja. Nanti ada budget saya datang!
You are a wizard and the best at what you do, I enjoyed ur video and enlightenment from beginning to the end. I am subscribing right away. ❤
Hello there - i ove this videos :) and i have a A1706 water damaged board - nearly all FETs are burnt - and condensators are gone - tried to read out data with data migration tool - but no reaction - do you know which components has to work to read out the data?
two questions.
1: what was that about the ocarina chip? mind elaborating on that?
2: have you tried to flash the firmware out of an iphone's nand chip to another chip, and using that chip, alone as it was supposed to be in the iphone, in a macbook? or are the chips different in some way between iphones/macbooks
1. Both 00-port and 01-port are enabled by the presence of the ocarina chip. When you cut/remove the 3.3v supply to this chip, the chip will turn off and thus the Port is turned off. In this case we want to turn off the 01-port.
2. We never tried it yet, but we believe iphone NAND from iphone 8-12 is called S4E(like in T2 mac), and starting iphone 13 it is called S5E(like for M1). Technically they might be compatible to each other but the firmware inside it must be different
@@iBoffRCC which chip is the ocarina chip?
@@iBoffRCChow do you do when you put two nands in the 00-port and the other two flp you leave them empty? Because it is not working in this case for me
@iBoffRCC when it comes to installing only 4 NANDs onto an 820-01700 board which originally had 5, you mentioned to remove the buck converter IC from the other wing.
Just the 2 power ICs or all the parts surrounding these as well please?
You dont even have to remove the ocarina or tps62180. Ocarina will send enable signal to tps62180, so cutting off 3v3 supply for the ocarina is enough, and you can find a 3v3 bridge resistor for this. Who knows in future you want to install more than 5 NANDs on the other wing.
@@iBoffRCC Just seeing that comment. Thank you a lot. Makes complete sense.
Keep up the good work. You guys are at the top of the game!
What an explanation!! Totally loved it. Thank you♥️
Which Manufacturer does in your opinion produce the most reliable and endurancing Nand chips for MacBooks?
If you take 2 M1 logic boards and swap the NANDs, does the serial numbers swap? Does the machine boot and install Mac OSX?
Hey iBoff! You're now recognized by Louis Rossmann! Excellent work!
this guy's a madlad.
pretty amazing to see an a1990 with 128gb.. which was never produced this way... btw - was it taken as a 2x64gb pre-programmed set from donor board? if yes - from which model board? good job for this video! very interesting..
120gb 2FLPs should come from MBA2018 or JC programmer.
Thanks for watching!
@@iBoffRCC thanks
You mean mba 2020? I see the the 2018 has 3 ssd chips.. from which one is possible to harvest 128gb for a1990?
Thank you!
@@iBoffRCCi did the same with 256gb 2flps with jc programmer and it doesnt work. You do something to the two flp from 00-port that stay empty?
@@manuelserra3606 hi, 2 nands of 256GB from JC will work. Just leave the other 2 empty FLP as is.
From the jc you can try to use:
TSB 4226 X 2 for 128GB
TSB 4227 X 2 for 256GB.
It works for us on the 00 Port
@@iBoffRCC helloo thank you so much for answering!! I tried 2xTSB4226 programmed with jcp13 in A2141 and didnt work. I also tried 2xTSB4227 and 1xtsb4229 + 1xTSB4232 also didnt work