Just turned 64 Dec 5, i thank GOD i came up when i did, we were blessed with the ultimate greatest music ever, just a melting pot of all kinds of the music, hell so much awesome music came out in the 70s that i didnt get to check out lots till late 80s- 90s.... favorite all time ELP...
The Rover such an awesome song, plant is one of those singer's that is hard to understand at time's so I brought up The Rover with lyric's , song is really, really deep and bring's up a WHOLE new meaning when you understand exactly what he is saying.....perfect example...David Byron ....I can understand what he is saying very clear....Plant maybe 60-70 percent of the time.Not knocking Plant by any mean's ......I guess just his style and the way it's delivered...and I am a ZEP nut.... favorite song...TEN YEAR'S GONE....without a doubt....then maybe??????? OUT ON THE TILE'S..?
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life This ain't that bad, he gets a lot sloppier, but he was performing whacked on heroin from 75-80 and it shows, I'm surprised he included some of the footage in that video page released, he's obviously out of it. Regardless, best guitarist to ever walk the earth in my opinion
Zepp has that magic and otherworldly sound that few bands ever possess. These guys are like musical wizards, I love where there music takes me- Over the hills and far away. Mystical is the best term I can think of.
something magic happened when the PAF bridge got replaced by the T Top in 1972…. it was like everything a Les Paul is capable of… came true. Madison Square Garden is still the most bad-ass tone of all time
The best thing about Zeppelin, and you can hear it here, is that they were just a band. Bands are sometimes good, sometimes off, but the best ones are always real. When Zeppelin was ON, they couldn't be touched.
Led zeppelin were good improvisers. Jimmy pages f*"* up quality John Paul and john bonham (look at each other) boom! Jump into a riff jimmy page scribbled with crayons. Dazed and confused is full of, jimmy page scribbles f"*" up quality. Facial expressions. Jimmy page hears 'beauty' in old scratchy flat sounding vinyls of Robert Johnson. Nobody gives shit about. Jimmy page listens f*"'up hard core cobweb crust
Zep sometimes sloppy, sometimes not. Sometimes due to intoxication. When they were off they were off. The Mighty Who consistantly dominated the stage from 1967 to 1975. Live At Leeds 1970 is proof that The Who set the bar very high for a live album and live performances.
Do we realize how we take for granted how truly awesome it is to hear the start of real rock like this..? If you love rock, you realize how meaningful it is to listen to the grand days of this amazing band...!!!
Sometimes, being a "dinosaur" rocks...I saw Zeppelin in '73 AND '75 in Pittsburgh, Page at the '83 ARMS benefit show in L.A., and in 1999, whilst on a business trip to England, through an unlikely series of twists of fate, got to meet Jimmy himself at his former residence in Windsor!
As Keith Richards said “Jimmy Page,the hardest working guitarist in rock and roll”. The layers of sound he created with a guitar and amplifiers and a few pedals is mind boggling.
Led Zep has no bad song in every album they made and includes the coda album all are great and the live versions equal like the song remains the same the bbc recordings how the west was won mothership and celebration day and the double dvd the special no quarter unledded with only Robert and Jimmy the best band in the world.
Yeah, this is an interesting proto version. All the parts aren't worked out and separated yet, but most of the song is there (Rover). Robert has most of the lyrics, but it's not edited. Pretty cool. Phys Graff got released in '75, but the songs were recorded over the previous few years, bit by bit.
It's a soundcheck, so I was probably wrong about The Rover. Nightflight's in pieces, too. They're just making sure the setup is good. Also the title says 'aka Minneapolis '75'. People really didn't know where bootlegs and snippets came from.
I always wondered why they would go into Sick Again after only playing the intro to The Rover. (Because The Rover is such a great song.) Now I know why - Plant couldn’t sing it anymore.
The Rover is such a great track, it’s a shame they didn’t play it more. They used to do The Rover intro into Sick Again, but i think The Rover is a much better track, so I wish they would just play The Rover and skip Sick Again entirely.
@@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG based on your original comment, nope. There are far too many interviews with Page as well as those that work with him that could explain this to you using small words that you could understand, also the guitar is simply in a non-standard tuning it is not out of tune
@@AldousHuxleysCat Not sure why you suddenly feel the need to be a condescending a little fuck, as I wasn't being sarcastic or disingenuous, but as someone who's played the guitar for over 55 years, I know what I know and if you can't accept that, then I guess we have a disagreement... Oh, and FYI, both songs are in _standard_ tuning, you super-genius, you...
My 2 favorite songs from graffitti they never played live and they sound oh so good and tasty. I could listen to Jimmy noodle for hours this was a treat and thanks for documenting this important piece of Rock history !
I have this recording on a boot called "Physically Present". It has a lot of practice sessions and writing in moment sessions. I think I am gong to pull it out tonght and give a good listn again!
Absolutely none of this is from before 1975. Not sure where the source is really from. Is it really Minneapolis? Chicago, too? I s’pose it can be, yes. But after ‘71, the multiple consecutive nights at one venue - sometimes 6 in one week with only a day off afterwards before doing the next 5-nights-in-a-row venue - wore down the strength of these youngsters. Jim seemed less happy to play grace notes and 128th notes quite as often and Robert’s voice was so overworked that by mid ‘72, he wisely stopped flexing his throat muscles so hard, maybe to compensate for no rest. As early as late ‘72, he was off and on as to choosing if he’d hit high notes on a given night. The SRTS film shows typical ‘73 moderation. For example, avoiding high notes on Rock and Roll like he’d hit on the studio cut. Yet as late as the O2, he DID hit the studio high notes by wisely waiting till his voice warmed up in the show’s last hour. They still have ability. But are less zealous to kill themselves, thank God. The recordings in this upload show not only mucho moderation such as was exercised only from ‘75-‘80, but the reverb on Roberts mic, as is heard in this audio upload, actually didn’t begin till 1975. I’ve bought almost as many Zep bootlegs as Jason Bonham. Well, at one point that was so. Now he’s got way more coz he has everything. Hard for lowly me to keep up these days. But bootleggers don’t always know what they’ve got unless they record it themselves. I bought inaccurately labeled Zep quite a lot in the ‘80s. So I blame no one coz there’s no way to know everything even if we were there live. I’ve bootlegged Robert’s solo tours when critics complained he couldn’t reach notes. But lo and behold, I’ve got stereo tapes from the Manic Nirvana tour where Robert hits highs on Immigrant Song equal to the LZIII studio LP during certain (‘88?) encore sets. •• Obviously, I’m fully aware much of Physical Graffiti was compiled from much earlier sessions, well prior to ‘75. Boogie With Stu is early Zep, in fact. The two songs in this upload were written closer to ‘71 or ‘72, perhaps. I’ve got bootlegs containing reference tape copies of the sessions where they’re in the writing phase, which many of us have seen on UA-cam these days. I paid good money to get them in 1986. But of course these soundchecks are another story. Admittedly, I’m going by no documented proof. Merely by inductive comparison. •• And of course, it matters not when these great recordings were done. They’re beautiful. And thanks to this contributing account for supplying them! Full disclosure: I do not have a copy of this audio. I’m just lost in the joy.
this is from Chicago Stadium 6th July 1973. not only is pretty much exactly where Robert was at circa ‘73… but Page’s tone is bang on for ‘73. he had a much less distorted tone in ‘75 with the change to KT88’s in his Marshall
@@coldacre I’ve heard much about tubes affecting tone, but frankly I’ve heard guitarists suggest that tubes affecting tone is a subjective idea with little way to measure it other than “feel” just short of using fancy expensive equipment I know zip about. Some guitarists have said ya get a bit more compression with volume yet some tubes offer similar tone to another yet not equal volume so comparison isn’t something I’m comfy considering for inductive contrasts mainly due to my own incompetence. I take solace in your own confidence, though. I’m hearing persons using that July date with their uploads usually saying the date isn’t confirmed, so I think there’s more research needed to be conclusive. I’m doing like anyone else, being conclusive-in-my-own-bad-mind. That reverb just doesn’t lie, in my thinking. •• But alas, now I’m even more perplexed after searching for more uploads of this occasion, presuming all the tracks are the same date : apparently there are many rehearsal songs compiled on an album which are all part of this same “sound check” (I’m trying to rule out “reference tape”, but let’s call it sound check). One uploaded source says the character of the sound check doesn’t match the actual form or sound of the subsequent concert that evening. Which I don’t recall coz do I even have that show? I’m not remembering. I’m betting I don’t. I got Chicago boots from zep but not ‘73, most likely. Now I gotta go listen to that show and compare. Plus, I raided Jason Bonham’s DMs begging him to tell me if this could be ‘73. I’ve seen other people commenting on these songs on other UA-cam accounts with the same stuff and more uploaded, a few agree it’s post-‘75 (which doesn’t make me correct). Jason knows the boots. But he’s been off social media for a few days. Thanks for your suggestion. It’s a valid thought. Maybe you’re right. I’m just more confused now since I noticed the other songs from the compilation I heard doesn’t have the same full mic reverb that Night Flight has. It made me think, “Could a cracking voice be caused by nothing more than it being earlier in the day than normal? During sound check hours?” The human voice can sing an octave higher before bedtime than when that person wakes up in the morning. One may sing a few half tones lower after sleep, yet one loses a lot of their high range. •• Summary : I’m totally lost.
You're probably right. Trippy though. He's in the middle of a bend(00:05) and then we hear a different part while the bend is still sustaining. Nice illusion..@@ericeverett2353
Amazing how Plant's voice deteriorated in such a short span of time, from 1972 (when he could still pull the high notes off) to 1973, when this was performance.
Plant wearing little girls blouses with ruffles was a total embarrassment. Very sad indeed. Something sick about a 6 ft. tall hairy grown ass dude prancing around on stage like the tooth fairy.
@@nachtfluegel1 As far as i know is these Soundcheck from Minneapolis 1975.....(first time it appeared on a Vinyl Bootleg Lp, made in Italy in the Eightees) with the Name,, Soundcheck". The Material was put there together with the Soundcheck of Chicago 1973, where they had played at the Chicago Stadium Soundcheck great old Rock and Roll Classic's like - ,, Shakin all over " -,, You Love me like a Hurrycane" - ,, Nadine Honey is that You " - ,, I' never get over You" - ,, Reelin and Rocki'n " and more.... This Material from the Minneapolis 1975 Soundcheck was placed on the B Side of these Lp....On the orange coloured Labels of the Record You can read ,, Leo Zuchi and the Redneck's".... Later the Material was as well on several Bootleg CD's.... I think one had haved the Name ,, Johnny Kid and the Pirates ".... But it was not on the Vinyl Lp with the same Name, on this Vinyl Bootleg Lp is only the Chicago 1973 Soundcheck and Material from the Headley Grange Rehearshels..... Best Greetings from Germany and Le(d)t the Zeppelin fly....! Cheers 😉 Henry
@@henryvonzeppelin1288 I think the "Chicago soundchek `73" and "Minneapolis soundchek `75" are one and the same. The mistake (1975 ;) ) is related to the fact that three songs were played at the sound check in 1973 that were only later released on Physical Graffiti in 1975. Greetings also from Germany 🙂
@@nachtfluegel1 believe me, these are two different Soundcheck's, it are two different Tapes.... But finaly for me it doesn't matter, it's just great Material at all..... .... by the Way from the Minneapolis Soundcheck exist a little bit more as here appear's ....(There were few Year's back, few short alternate Takes of it for a quick time in the Net....) And it exist's a third interesting Tape from a Soundcheck in Southampton 1973....
It's a soundcheck I'm sure they tuned up the very things you mentioned but a concert up in Seattle.( Sorry I can't remember the date) but Robert had an ear infection and Jimmy Page was sick so you can imagine what that sounded like an ear infection is the last thing a singer wants and your lead guitarist... 🤢 .
💥I QUESTION if that’s them in the picture …. Not sure! Never seen Page perform in a shirt like that in the same era as WHEN Robert wore that top , Honestly, But I could be wrong
In this comment section we can tell people don't know the difference of tape dragging versus being out of tune, the purpose of a soundcheck and how a singer handles it... At the end of the day I guess we should all be proud even the most idiotic individuals come to listen to the mighty Zep
Yes, it's a bit confusing. But The Rover has been slowly developed since the early 1970s. Performed live in public for the first time (instrumtal)in Sydney in '72 as part of the Whole Lotta Love medley . So it's no contradiction that they also played it as a rehearsal in 1973, even though it wasn't officially released until 1975.
@@jeansauvageau1742 um…No. it’s labeled as being from 1973. If you’re referring to the best Jimmy Page impersonator around today…..Mr. Jimmy from Japan, that ain’t him. If you mean it’s Mr. Jimmy Page, then it sure as hell doesn’t look like him. The face looks much wider and his mouth looks different. But heck, maybe it’s just a bad picture of him. It’s certainly Robert Plant, so makes sense it would by Jimmy.
@@sid7088 I 100% agree. There’s no comparison between their studio and live material. But when I say that I get furious pushback from fans who say I just don’t understand what Zep was trying to do live or some other BS. I’m like dude I love Zeppelin and for crying out loud I used to play in a Zeppelin cover band!
I know a lot of people think Jimmy is sloppy but this is not Jimmy playing here 😐 this is my 11 year old daughter practicing so please don’t think Jimmy is this sloppy 🤦🏻♂️
@@PanchoMostaza page tiene más seguidores por kilómetros dentro de los musicos famosos,todos los grandes lo señalan como el que más les gusta por inventiva, improvisación,y también por un arco iris de melodías inagotable que no permite etiquetar o definir su música. El virtuosismo de page es encantar a su audiencia a tal punto que para su último show en 2007 postularon más de 20 millones de personas (y la página se cayó)para poder comprar entradas.virtuoso o no su música siempre es fresca y traspasa generaciones,por eso es el más grande y querido de todos. Los otros serán virtuosos pero su música no lo es.
Oh we have some trolls, don’t we. I know I’m suppose to ignore you troll people but I like to have fun to. ZEPPELIN ROCKS AND RULES !!!!!!!!!!!! Know it love it and live it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The Rover is such a great underrated tune in their catalog
c est pourtant un morceau que je mettrai dans un top 30 de leur répertoire
Nice tease in 77
GREAT SONG!!
The beginning of the song is 🔥🔥🔥
There are just soooo many classic Zeppelin songs, you can't go wrong....
Just turned 64 Dec 5, i thank GOD i came up when i did, we were blessed with the ultimate greatest music ever, just a melting pot of all kinds of the music, hell so much awesome music came out in the 70s that i didnt get to check out lots till late 80s- 90s.... favorite all time ELP...
Couldnt agree more! Nothing but garbage today. And all that talent in ELP. Amazing.
The Rover such an awesome song, plant is one of those singer's that is hard to understand at time's so I brought up The Rover with lyric's , song is really, really deep and bring's up a WHOLE new meaning when you understand exactly what he is saying.....perfect example...David Byron ....I can understand what he is saying very clear....Plant maybe 60-70 percent of the time.Not knocking Plant by any mean's ......I guess just his style and the way it's delivered...and I am a ZEP nut.... favorite song...TEN YEAR'S GONE....without a doubt....then maybe??????? OUT ON THE TILE'S..?
Emerson, Lake and Palmer ❤ them.
I can now hear and appreciate all of Page's notes are beautiful, unique and amazing , even in a soundcheck.
Very intelligent sir!
Why couldn't you before? Some musicians say Page is sloppy live. Not a good version of the Rover.
A lot of good music is soundchecks.
Out of tune and sloppy. I love Led Zep, but damn this ain’t too good.
@@PNW_Sportbike_Life This ain't that bad, he gets a lot sloppier, but he was performing whacked on heroin from 75-80 and it shows, I'm surprised he included some of the footage in that video page released, he's obviously out of it. Regardless, best guitarist to ever walk the earth in my opinion
Zepp has that magic and otherworldly sound that few bands ever possess. These guys are like musical wizards, I love where there music takes me- Over the hills and far away.
Mystical is the best term I can think of.
Excellent description, and I totally do agree....
Excellent description, and I totally do agree....
@@jimmienonya8912 I so agree
Page sound in 73 was so perfect
Especially with that 14 year old guitar. Lol.
something magic happened when the PAF bridge got replaced by the T Top in 1972…. it was like everything a Les Paul is capable of… came true. Madison Square Garden is still the most bad-ass tone of all time
You need a hot paf in the neck and a t-top in the bridge sounds good
The best thing about Zeppelin, and you can hear it here, is that they were just a band. Bands are sometimes good, sometimes off, but the best ones are always real. When Zeppelin was ON, they couldn't be touched.
Led zeppelin were good improvisers. Jimmy pages f*"* up quality John Paul and john bonham (look at each other) boom! Jump into a riff jimmy page scribbled with crayons. Dazed and confused is full of, jimmy page scribbles f"*" up quality. Facial expressions. Jimmy page hears 'beauty' in old scratchy flat sounding vinyls of Robert Johnson. Nobody gives shit about. Jimmy page listens f*"'up hard core cobweb crust
Zep sometimes sloppy, sometimes not. Sometimes due to intoxication. When they were off they were off. The Mighty Who consistantly dominated the stage from 1967 to 1975. Live At Leeds 1970 is proof that The Who set the bar very high for a live album and live performances.
Couldn't agree ver more.
Still Beatles Allma s,Derek & Dominoes,ACDC....so many t...but,Nobody could touch Zeppelin when they were "ON"!!!! THEY WERE MAGICK!¡!
@trajan6927 Yes and to hear them blow the roof off the Metropolitan Opera with the rock opera "Tommy" was a wonder to behold!!!!
This is soooo great. Always wondered why Jimmy never wanted to air out these 2 songs in concert.
I think a lot of us have the same question.
Plant’s vocals weren’t up to it.
Page is the most inspired artist of this time. Not only was his music supreme. so was his confidence
Even when they were off they were on! Some of the offs are the best moments!
Do we realize how we take for granted how truly awesome it is to hear the start of real rock like this..? If you love rock, you realize how meaningful it is to listen to the grand days of this amazing band...!!!
God, I miss Rock n Roll like this! Thanks!
LED Zeppelin pauleira total total 🇧🇷👹🔥🤘
Never mind the date,what's a trippin' blast-- this is my first listen! Wow,my fave album
Love Jimmys sound checks. Special sound.
Amazing recording from band who created, wrote, scripted what many, many wannabes followed. Love it! Wish i was there.
The were great rip off artists.
Jimmy plage sad fact
@@carlbullaro7616 Louder blues with a whole lotta james brown funky back beat with some bernard purdie and you have led zeppelin. They were dope tho.
@@hagnuj1070 as were The Stones, The Yardbirds, Black Sabbath et al. As all bands that came after continue to borrow. Sick of this stupid talk.
@@grahamfay2473 Borrow🤣🤣🤣🤣
JCM made me aware of this. Always love hearing something different
Sometimes, being a "dinosaur" rocks...I saw Zeppelin in '73 AND '75 in Pittsburgh, Page at the '83 ARMS benefit show in L.A., and in 1999, whilst on a business trip to England, through an unlikely series of twists of fate, got to meet Jimmy himself at his former residence in Windsor!
Nice bro
As Keith Richards said “Jimmy Page,the hardest working guitarist in rock and roll”. The layers of sound he created with a guitar and amplifiers and a few pedals is mind boggling.
They’re still the best band ever, even in sound check, Pagey’s imagination for fills are out freakin standing!!!
Led Zep has no bad song in every album they made and includes the coda album all are great and the live versions equal like the song remains the same the bbc recordings how the west was won mothership and celebration day and the double dvd the special no quarter unledded with only Robert and Jimmy the best band in the world.
Jimmy was so good, they didn't perform this until 77, They just worked out what felt good
Yeah, this is an interesting proto version. All the parts aren't worked out and separated yet, but most of the song is there (Rover). Robert has most of the lyrics, but it's not edited. Pretty cool. Phys Graff got released in '75, but the songs were recorded over the previous few years, bit by bit.
It's a soundcheck, so I was probably wrong about The Rover. Nightflight's in pieces, too. They're just making sure the setup is good. Also the title says 'aka Minneapolis '75'. People really didn't know where bootlegs and snippets came from.
I love Robert's jeans 😂😊😊
Hell yeah! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
JPJ holding it all together,..
all while inspiring all 3.
THANKYOUJONESEY.
This was the peak of Page's creativity. There was so much coming out he could barely put it all together.
I absolutely agree. Page and his playing was at its peak here.
Zeppelin put out some awesome tunes.
After you listen for a min the on’s start over riding the off”s. This song is a great zeppelin tune.
5:49. Jimmy starts playing 19th Nervous Breakdown
I don't hear it
@@pointblank8216 He starts playing Brian’s part. The Bo Diddley riff. Not Keith’s part. Da da da da, da da da da.
@@BigSky1 Yeah
Nice catch man !!
Sure enough it is from 19thNB
Yep definitely hear it.
Two very good numbers off Physical Graffiti it's packed full of awesome songs 🎵🎶🎸👍🙏
Just was listening to this album in my CD player on my way home from work today! Yeah... CD player.... ;)
Physical Graffiti and Quadrofenia were two of the greatest albums.
Their best album by far in my opinion....TEN YEARS GONE , my favorite
@@trajan6927 you nailed it!!
@@trajan6927 PHYSICAL GRAFFITI and QUADROPHENIA maybe the 2 greatest albums of all time.....
Page just messing around sounds better than everyone else. THINK about that.
Very cool! That was long before the Physical Graffiti!!
Yeah but as you probably know both were recorded long before Graffiti.
I love Robert's voice here so much
? It’s awful!
really? i think it’s him working out that he can’t sing The Rover anymore as it’s out of his range. probably why they never played it live
great songs.... thanks
Epic tracks from PG double album.
Wow, amazing. Test test, just a test. They totally could have done these live.
I always wondered why they would go into Sick Again after only playing the intro to The Rover. (Because The Rover is such a great song.) Now I know why - Plant couldn’t sing it anymore.
@@dorland3 His voice was shot during 73
@@dorland3 And...? I'm sure you could.
Wat een helden
The Rover is such a great track, it’s a shame they didn’t play it more. They used to do The Rover intro into Sick Again, but i think The Rover is a much better track, so I wish they would just play The Rover and skip Sick Again entirely.
@efolson What the real shame is, is that JP didn't bother to tune his guitar before soundcheck...
@@Jah_Rastafari_ORIGyou don't understand Page and his approach
@@AldousHuxleysCat Yuh-huh...
@@Jah_Rastafari_ORIG based on your original comment, nope. There are far too many interviews with Page as well as those that work with him that could explain this to you using small words that you could understand, also the guitar is simply in a non-standard tuning it is not out of tune
@@AldousHuxleysCat Not sure why you suddenly feel the need to be a condescending a little fuck, as I wasn't being sarcastic or disingenuous, but as someone who's played the guitar for over 55 years, I know what I know and if you can't accept that, then I guess we have a disagreement... Oh, and FYI, both songs are in _standard_ tuning, you super-genius, you...
My 2 favorite songs from graffitti they never played live and they sound oh so good and tasty. I could listen to Jimmy noodle for hours this was a treat and thanks for documenting this important piece of Rock history !
GIANT!
Thanks 4 $haring
tHE ROVER REMINDS Me of Me
Wow keren
That sounds like a fun job.
Cool !
They used to open with TSRTS and right into the Rover they played both these songs live all the time.
I wish Zep added “the Rover” to their concert tracks. In my opinion, it’s in their top 10 songs
Actually, it's my favourite Zeppelin tune!!!
crushing rock song off the zeppelin Mtn
rover❤
Saw em 73 Atlanta
He plays a quick taste of "19th Nervous Breakdown" at 5:40
Raw Les Paul through a 100 Marshall Plexi. Les Paul fills up the sound nicely...just imagine a telecaster....oh my🙄
demais rock dos bom coisa rara
YES ,
First sign of the "rover" was sydney 1972.
Thunder Down Under
I have this recording on a boot called "Physically Present". It has a lot of practice sessions and writing in moment sessions. I think I am gong to pull it out tonght and give a good listn again!
Absolutely none of this is from before 1975. Not sure where the source is really from. Is it really Minneapolis? Chicago, too? I s’pose it can be, yes.
But after ‘71, the multiple consecutive nights at one venue - sometimes 6 in one week with only a day off afterwards before doing the next 5-nights-in-a-row venue - wore down the strength of these youngsters. Jim seemed less happy to play grace notes and 128th notes quite as often and Robert’s voice was so overworked that by mid ‘72, he wisely stopped flexing his throat muscles so hard, maybe to compensate for no rest.
As early as late ‘72, he was off and on as to choosing if he’d hit high notes on a given night. The SRTS film shows typical ‘73 moderation. For example, avoiding high notes on Rock and Roll like he’d hit on the studio cut.
Yet as late as the O2, he DID hit the studio high notes by wisely waiting till his voice warmed up in the show’s last hour. They still have ability. But are less zealous to kill themselves, thank God.
The recordings in this upload show not only mucho moderation such as was exercised only from ‘75-‘80, but the reverb on Roberts mic, as is heard in this audio upload, actually didn’t begin till 1975.
I’ve bought almost as many Zep bootlegs as Jason Bonham. Well, at one point that was so. Now he’s got way more coz he has everything. Hard for lowly me to keep up these days. But bootleggers don’t always know what they’ve got unless they record it themselves. I bought inaccurately labeled Zep quite a lot in the ‘80s. So I blame no one coz there’s no way to know everything even if we were there live.
I’ve bootlegged Robert’s solo tours when critics complained he couldn’t reach notes.
But lo and behold, I’ve got stereo tapes from the Manic Nirvana tour where Robert hits highs on Immigrant Song equal to the LZIII studio LP during certain (‘88?) encore sets.
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Obviously, I’m fully aware much of Physical Graffiti was compiled from much earlier sessions, well prior to ‘75. Boogie With Stu is early Zep, in fact.
The two songs in this upload were written closer to ‘71 or ‘72, perhaps. I’ve got bootlegs containing reference tape copies of the sessions where they’re in the writing phase, which many of us have seen on UA-cam these days. I paid good money to get them in 1986. But of course these soundchecks are another story. Admittedly, I’m going by no documented proof. Merely by inductive comparison.
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And of course, it matters not when these great recordings were done. They’re beautiful. And thanks to this contributing account for supplying them!
Full disclosure: I do not have a copy of this audio. I’m just lost in the joy.
this is from Chicago Stadium 6th July 1973. not only is pretty much exactly where Robert was at circa ‘73… but Page’s tone is bang on for ‘73. he had a much less distorted tone in ‘75 with the change to KT88’s in his Marshall
@@coldacre I’ve heard much about tubes affecting tone, but frankly I’ve heard guitarists suggest that tubes affecting tone is a subjective idea with little way to measure it other than “feel” just short of using fancy expensive equipment I know zip about. Some guitarists have said ya get a bit more compression with volume yet some tubes offer similar tone to another yet not equal volume so comparison isn’t something I’m comfy considering for inductive contrasts mainly due to my own incompetence. I take solace in your own confidence, though.
I’m hearing persons using that July date with their uploads usually saying the date isn’t confirmed, so I think there’s more research needed to be conclusive. I’m doing like anyone else, being conclusive-in-my-own-bad-mind. That reverb just doesn’t lie, in my thinking.
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But alas, now I’m even more perplexed after searching for more uploads of this occasion, presuming all the tracks are the same date : apparently there are many rehearsal songs compiled on an album which are all part of this same “sound check” (I’m trying to rule out “reference tape”, but let’s call it sound check). One uploaded source says the character of the sound check doesn’t match the actual form or sound of the subsequent concert that evening. Which I don’t recall coz do I even have that show? I’m not remembering. I’m betting I don’t.
I got Chicago boots from zep but not ‘73, most likely. Now I gotta go listen to that show and compare. Plus, I raided Jason Bonham’s DMs begging him to tell me if this could be ‘73.
I’ve seen other people commenting on these songs on other UA-cam accounts with the same stuff and more uploaded, a few agree it’s post-‘75 (which doesn’t make me correct). Jason knows the boots. But he’s been off social media for a few days. Thanks for your suggestion.
It’s a valid thought. Maybe you’re right. I’m just more confused now since I noticed the other songs from the compilation I heard doesn’t have the same full mic reverb that Night Flight has. It made me think, “Could a cracking voice be caused by nothing more than it being earlier in the day than normal? During sound check hours?” The human voice can sing an octave higher before bedtime than when that person wakes up in the morning. One may sing a few half tones lower after sleep, yet one loses a lot of their high range.
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Summary : I’m totally lost.
this is clearly 1975. you can tell by roberts voice
this is Chicago Stadium souncheck 6th July 1973.
He is saving his voice
You got that right
I'm almost hearing a second guitar in the beginning or are those parts just Jimmy letting open strings ring out?
Guess he’s droning. I heard that too
You're probably right. Trippy though. He's in the middle of a bend(00:05) and then we hear a different part while the bend is still sustaining. Nice illusion..@@ericeverett2353
Amazing how Plant's voice deteriorated in such a short span of time, from 1972 (when he could still pull the high notes off) to 1973, when this was performance.
Plant wearing little girls blouses with ruffles was a total embarrassment. Very sad indeed. Something sick about a 6 ft. tall hairy grown ass dude prancing around on stage like the tooth fairy.
They were not yet doing these songs in 73
You are right. They never played these songs in a show. But this is a soundcheck. Took place in 1973....
@@nachtfluegel1
As far as i know is these Soundcheck from Minneapolis 1975.....(first time it appeared on a Vinyl Bootleg Lp, made in Italy in the Eightees) with the Name,, Soundcheck". The Material was put there together with the Soundcheck of Chicago 1973, where they had played at the Chicago Stadium Soundcheck great old Rock and Roll Classic's like
- ,, Shakin all over "
-,, You Love me like a Hurrycane"
- ,, Nadine Honey is that You "
- ,, I' never get over You"
- ,, Reelin and Rocki'n "
and more....
This Material from the Minneapolis 1975 Soundcheck was placed on the B Side of these Lp....On the orange coloured Labels of the Record You can read ,, Leo Zuchi and the Redneck's"....
Later the Material was as well on several Bootleg CD's....
I think one had haved the Name ,, Johnny Kid and the Pirates ".... But it was not on the Vinyl Lp with the same Name, on this Vinyl Bootleg Lp is only the Chicago 1973 Soundcheck and Material from the Headley Grange Rehearshels.....
Best Greetings from Germany and Le(d)t the Zeppelin fly....! Cheers 😉 Henry
@@henryvonzeppelin1288 I think the "Chicago soundchek `73" and "Minneapolis soundchek `75" are one and the same. The mistake (1975 ;) ) is related to the fact that three songs were played at the sound check in 1973 that were only later released on Physical Graffiti in 1975. Greetings also from Germany 🙂
@@nachtfluegel1 believe me, these are two different Soundcheck's, it are two different Tapes.... But finaly for me it doesn't matter, it's just great Material at all.....
.... by the Way from the Minneapolis Soundcheck exist a little bit more as here appear's ....(There were few Year's back, few short alternate Takes of it for a quick time in the Net....)
And it exist's a third interesting Tape from a Soundcheck in Southampton 1973....
Sound check-Robert’s holding back for the actual show
Soundchecks aren't for getting things exact or even "good" They are for the SOUND.
Thats no excuse for playing like shit.
You must be kidding.
I EXPECT more from musicians of this caliber.
Good point .
They could at least tune the guitar
DAMN JIMMY TUNE THAT FUCKING GUITAR!
Tape drag I think.
Plants voice is dragging too.
It’s the tape
No, not the tape. Low-E is consistently sharp. Mostly sorted by the time they get to NF. Better but still not perfect.
squeaks like bonham's speedking pedal
Page was always sloppy which is part of his sound
💥OH SHIT‼️
Well Now I know where EVH got inspiration for the POWER RIFF AT THE START OF
MEAN STREAT!!!
👉🏼starts around 6:13 …..
sO NEAT‼️
Bonzo souns great
Peaple talking about sloppiness of Page ,but can those people write songs ?
I love pages so called sloppiness. He plays with ultimate emotions. I can get perfect guitar playing from everyone else who sounds the same
This would have been on zeppelin 4 they decided not to I believe night flight was another track that would’ve been on zep 4 also
It's a soundcheck I'm sure they tuned up the very things you mentioned but a concert up in Seattle.( Sorry I can't remember the date) but Robert had an ear infection and Jimmy Page was sick so you can imagine what that sounded like an ear infection is the last thing a singer wants and your lead guitarist... 🤢 .
💥I QUESTION if that’s them in the picture …. Not sure!
Never seen Page perform in a shirt like that in the same era as WHEN Robert wore that top , Honestly,
But I could be wrong
Physical Graffiti was 1975. They were playing these songs in a ‘73 sound check?
they played the Rover riff in Sydney 1972 first time
How come The Rover in 1977 never sounded like this? Maybe cuz Jimmy played it on the doubleneck?
In this comment section we can tell people don't know the difference of tape dragging versus being out of tune, the purpose of a soundcheck and how a singer handles it... At the end of the day I guess we should all be proud even the most idiotic individuals come to listen to the mighty Zep
1973? o 1975?
Previews from 1973 indeed.
@@nachtfluegel1 Thanks!!
Houses sessions most likely
Rehearsing for Live Aid?
My favorite all-time line:
"I know to trip is just too far"......!!!
The line is "I know to trip is just to fall"
@@zososhep That's better!
I am confused Physical Graffiti was not promoting the 1973 tour the 1975 tour check. I could be wrong here. It claims 1973.
Yes, it's a bit confusing. But The Rover has been slowly developed since the early 1970s. Performed live in public for the first time (instrumtal)in Sydney in '72 as part of the Whole Lotta Love medley . So it's no contradiction that they also played it as a rehearsal in 1973, even though it wasn't officially released until 1975.
Thank you.
this isn’t 1973.
Like Hendrix, the further his guitar Was Out Of Tune, the better he sounded.. to me they sound better when they're off or what they call off
Sure as hell doesn’t look like Jimmy Page.
Pimmy Jage.
It's Mr. Jimmy.
@@jeansauvageau1742 um…No. it’s labeled as being from 1973. If you’re referring to the best Jimmy Page impersonator around today…..Mr. Jimmy from Japan, that ain’t him. If you mean it’s Mr. Jimmy Page, then it sure as hell doesn’t look like him. The face looks much wider and his mouth looks different. But heck, maybe it’s just a bad picture of him. It’s certainly Robert Plant, so makes sense it would by Jimmy.
@@w.geoffreyspaulding6588 It was meant in jest. Meaning that Page, on that picture, could resemble Mr. Jimmy, the Japanese guitarist. That's all.
Like #666 🔥🔥🔥
Plant sounds pretty rough here.
Sloppy and lovely.
This is 1975.
I don`t think so. But everyone can believe what they want.
@@nachtfluegel1 what makes you the expert ? It’s Minnesota 1975.
@@RonPro-u1t Luis Rey (Led Zeppelin LIVE) and JCM (Led Zeppelin Stories) are experts. Both are of the opinion that the recording is from 1973.
@@nachtfluegel1I’m right. They are wrong.
@@nachtfluegel1 how does one become an expert. Do I have to go to school for that ? Or can we ask Jimmy Page
Wow, how out of tune is that?!
Not 1973 it's 1975.
According Luis Rey`s "Led Zeppelin Live" these rehearsals took place July 6th, 1973
I’ve heard this before, it was on the 1973 tour. Zeppelin wrote a lot of music a couple years before it was released.
Much of the material that appeared on Physical Graffiti was written years before, going back to 1970.
@@BBaldwin ,
there are 15 tracks in physical graffiti,7 were written between 1970-1972 including
the rover and night flight.
I was at the show that night - was my first concert ever. Nice way to start my concert-going career.
I know that this is just a soundcheck.
I know Zep was pretty loose live. Page and Bonham could both be sloppy.
But damn. This is awful.
I love them but let's face it, they did their best work in the studio.
@@sid7088 I 100% agree. There’s no comparison between their studio and live material. But when I say that I get furious pushback from fans who say I just don’t understand what Zep was trying to do live or some other BS.
I’m like dude I love Zeppelin and for crying out loud I used to play in a Zeppelin cover band!
Yep I say it and they cry about it fanboys who are tone deaf
Not awful man haven't you ever been in the rehearsal just start stopping working up a number that's what these dudes are doing and is cool
@@TrentHutchesonTNasty I guess but this isn’t a rehearsal.
I know a lot of people think Jimmy is sloppy but this is not Jimmy playing here 😐 this is my 11 year old daughter practicing so please don’t think Jimmy is this sloppy 🤦🏻♂️
1973???? NO. Lol! typical bootlegger getting the dates/locale wrong
Sure it's really LZ ?!?? Even JPJ seems to be "out"...😢
This is a good example of why they should have had a second guitarist.
Its a soundcheck....we're talking about practice.
Not the concert, practice man, we talkin about practice. But still, many of their songs live just lose too much with just one guitar. @@johntuttle9544
But ...they prefeted that way ... to keep going on being genuine Led Zep 😊😂
They needed a second guitarist like we need a second asshole
Page said he wanted a second guitarist but he feared the fan backlash.
Page no era un virtuoso de la guitarra, menos en vivo!
Stop it!!! 💥💯🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Virtuosos de la guitarra: Allan Holdsworth, Frank Gambale, Steve Vai, Joe Satriani, Greg Howe, Johnny Hiland, Jeff Beck, etc. etc. etc. etc.
He was sloppy. Too many drugs.
@@PanchoMostaza page tiene más seguidores por kilómetros dentro de los musicos famosos,todos los grandes lo señalan como el que más les gusta por inventiva, improvisación,y también por un arco iris de melodías inagotable que no permite etiquetar o definir su música.
El virtuosismo de page es encantar a su audiencia a tal punto que para su último show en 2007 postularon más de 20 millones de personas (y la página se cayó)para poder comprar entradas.virtuoso o no su música siempre es fresca y traspasa generaciones,por eso es el más grande y querido de todos.
Los otros serán virtuosos pero su música no lo es.
Loose but sloppy. Page's sticky fingers in full effect here.
Horrific. Typical Plant with strained voice, and it's hard to imagine Page sounding so bad on The Rover.
Are you kidding me. If you know anything about zeppelin then You’ll know that the on’s over ride the off’s. Zeppelin rocks and rules always !!!
Sounds pretty bad, Zep Heads.
It's a sound check, Keif
Hey MrRackett
Hell you can rock out to their sound checks.
Do you know what a sound check is ?
People give Ozzy crap about his voice after 75', this Plant performance is awful.
Page took a lot of drugs and sometimes he was too wasted to be on his game
All they do is copy Greta Van Fleet
...and some Kingdom Come and Whitesnake stuff😅
Oh we have some trolls, don’t we. I know I’m suppose to ignore you troll people but I like to have fun to. ZEPPELIN ROCKS AND RULES !!!!!!!!!!!!
Know it love it and live it 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"There...see? Just there. That bloke from service keeps starin' at me bum"....
Top 5 ZEPPELIN SONGS. GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME. are you sure this is from 73 not 75
These previews are from 1973 indeed. 1975 appeared on Physical Graffiti