79cc No More - Meet MAX the 224cc Engine Swapped Mega Moto Minibike
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- In today’s episode of DIY Willy, I install a new 6.6 Hp 224cc Max Performance Predator engine in the Mega Moto minibike. There was nothing wrong with the original Gasbike 79cc version but it always a good time to try something else….Right? This engine claims to have 10% more torque and just a hint of additional HP over the 212 version. So let’s find out how much the 10% improves the performance in the Mega Moto frame. I intend to leave the engine all stock as it came out of the box for now but who knows what the future might hold for it only time will tell. Also I try a centrifugal clutch for the first time on this build and I can definitely see the differences between the torque converter and the centrifugal clutches when riding.
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Parts:
Mini Bike brake System…(GPS)…. www.gopowersports.com/mini-bi...
224cc Max Performance Predator Engine….www.harborfreight.com/generat...
Mini Bike hydraulic Brake Caliper Bracket….(GPS).... www.gopowersports.com/mini-bi...
79cc Engine….(GasBike)…. www.gasbike.net/collections/e...
Go Power Sports….(GPS)…. www.gopowersports.com/
OMBWarehouse….(OMB)…. www.ombwarehouse.com/
Affordable Gokarts….(AGK)…. Affordable Go Karts
Azusa 8” Spinner Wheels….(GPS)… www.gopowersports.com/8-spinn...
(IRC) Trials Tires 3.50x8” Front/Rear….(GPS)…. www.gopowersports.com/3-50-8-...
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DIY Willy Nice Mini Bike. I Will Be Looking Forward To More Videos. Thanks
Thanks I have some plans for it. Take some time and check my other build. The swing arms works perfectly. Thanks for watching
You gonna love that 224 💪
I already do…
Sweet! Love the first pull 😎drinking coffee in Ocotillo and watching DIY Willy! Getting close to 1000 go Willy go. Share what you find out about the vibrations curious cause im having similar issues.
Thanks yes I’m getting close. I will share what I find. Just wish I didn’t need to look. Not worried to much all the parts are replaceable. I believe I need to shim the crank at the side cover. There appears to excessive end play. That might tighten it up some.
so i have a 2016 mm80 and im looking into getting a 224 for it. is it 100% that a 224 will fit in that frame? i want to order a 224 but dont want to have to relocate the tank. help
Hello broombroom, yes it will go but it’s tight. You will need to bring some from the front oil drain plug and drill new mounting holes for the engine. The MM80 holes are different. As you saw in my video it is possible. By grinding the front oil drain bolt it will allow you to move the engine as far forward as possible. Hope this helps… Let me know how it turns out. You will definitely like the difference in power. Be safe!! Thanks for watching!!!
That's a bit of a torque upgrade!
WAY more torque but with the governor left in its still as fun to ride as the smaller 79cc version. So far it doesn't seem to be a wheelie monster at least for now....LOL..
Hey how did you get yours not to be a wheelie monster? I just put my 224cc in my mm80 and i can’t keep it on the ground. Unreal amount of torque.
I have a smaller rear sprocket. It will loose some torque but will improve top end. If I remember correctly it’s a 54t sprocket. Thanks for watching!
hi willy i wish i remember who said went you start your 224 put hands over ears you dont want to hear this noise that how i roll been beat on it for 2 years just got moto 80 frame time too install 224 beating continue.
Well it does fit pretty nice and will pull hard while accelerating. So many videos now on the best mods for the 224. Just make sure to upgrade the brakes with that 225! Have fun! Be careful and Thanks for watching!!
I love your 224😊
Hello Daven, it’s a very strong engine. Are you building one? Thanks for watching
I'm ready for summer I got about 20 min of riding today was 37 degrees bit brisk but was much needed
It’s a bit warmer here in SoCal
I'll take anything above freezing to get some snow melted off
Beautiful ❤️
Hello Ryan, Thanks for watching!!
Ive got a coleman cc100x Im about to put a 224 on in about 10 mins, finally got my last part from Amazon. But I wanted to know what front fork are you using?
Hello Native Son, Your going to like that 224! I also run a 224 but fully modded and it’s impressive for sure. Please make sure you have enough brakes to tame that beast. I use this fork:
Mini Bike Front Suspension Fork a.co/d/6YOs33w
You can also find it at GoPowerSports for sometimes cheaper price. Good luck with your build and stay safe. Thanks for watching!!
Sad to see it go but i think it will be worth it!
Yes its sad to see the 79cc engine go. Its a great running engine but its always nice to have more. I need to do some repairs to it and I may reinstall it while I build the 224..
Lol the ... Makes me think your gonna build the 224 to the limit😂😂
@BROKEN WRENCH GARAGE thinking about it….🤔. There are so many builds already parts are hard to come by..
Yep our tillotson 224 beast is gonna put out around 30 HP
I notice mine shakes a hell of a lot too, Id like to find a way to support it better. Could just be needing to go through its cycles. I only have an hour or two on mine.
Hello Eric, Some people have found that the flywheel is not torqued properly and can be a cause of the vibrations. I feel though that it’s caused by the stroke this engine has. I welded 3ea 1”x1/8” flat bar under the engine plate to help stiffen the frame. It definitely helped tame the beast. I have a video showing how I did it. You should check it out. Thanks for watching!!
Can we ask you where you got the wheels. I want them for my mini. Same bike as yours but I have a tilly e start on mine. Love it.
Links are in the description. But you can get them at either GoPowerSports or OMBwarehouse. Thanks for watching
yea my 80cc just went i pushed the breather tube to the valve cover and the valves chewed it all up and then the motor started to shake and rattle then shut off
Time to take it apart or 224
i need to switch my cable to for the throttle do they make them in purple
Probably I’ve never looked for purple
I have that same setup but I can't keep it on 2wheels what size rear sprocket I need
Hello Cornelius, The rear sprocket is a 54t.
Okay so I have the same bike frame only it's called rt100 and I'm putting a 224 in it problem Is I can't find anywhere on how too hook up the throttle cable too it how would you do it?
Hello Alexander, it’s really hard to explain and I don’t have a clear video on the throttle install. But Mech Master does and I’ll provide a link. It’s the same set up on the 224 even though it may look different. You will connect the same cable to the 224 linkage. Thanks for watching.
Hope this helps. ua-cam.com/video/tymDZ0kYxrI/v-deo.html
@@DIYWilly thank you so much man your the best and no problem
@@pennsylvaniarailroad1223 You’re very welcome !! Spread the word about DIYWILLY.
what clutch do you have on it ? i just got one and need a clutch
Hello, It’s a Max Torque 3/4” clutch..
amzn.to/3TmhcRb
Thanks for watching!!!
it's the clutch !!!
Yes I change to a better quality clutch that works so much better. Thanks for watching.
The same thing happened to me ¡
Nice bike 👍
Thank you I appreciate that!! 👍
Since you liked this one you should check out my other Mega Moto with the custom swing arm. That thing is a beast.. Thanks for watching!!
I will be sure to check it out ✌️
Do you move the choke to the right or left when running it
Hello Lico, Looking at the engine you would move the choke to the right after starting. Thanks for watching!!
Got a 224 and plan on building this soon, did the chain guard come with the bike frame and did you use the same chain that was included?
Hello glaxiccp7841, No the chain guard was purchased separately from GoPowerSports. Also I did replace the chain. Good luck with your build and thanks for watching.
@@DIYWilly also have another question, will the stock chain work on this setup? and what type of throttle cable did you end up using?
@@glaxiccp7841 the stock chain may be too short and you will need a longer one. I replaced mine before trying. Also if you can consider getting a larger chain. The same throttle cable will work if using the stock 224 carb.
I know it an old video, but did you use your factory rear sprocket? What tooth count? I cant keep the front end down on mine
No I had to change to a 54t rear sprocket. This will help keep the front down and give a better top speed.
@@DIYWilly where did you get it from?
GoPowerSports
You will most likely need a sprocket hub to go with the different sprocket. I use a split sprocket. Also I’m still using 35 chain.
Can I use the same clutch I bought for a 212 on the 224 ?
Yes should fit any 3/4 shaft engine. Thanks for watching!!
Is the bolt pattern the same on the bike frame or do I have to drill new holes to make it fit
No you’ll have to drill new holes unless you use the angled adapter engine plate from GoPowerSports.
@@DIYWilly do you have a link for it?
Angled plate
www.gopowersports.com/mega-moto-80-105-adapter-plate/
Angled plate with adjustable top plate
Best option
www.gopowersports.com/mega-moto-80-105-adjustable-motor-mount-kit/
Either of these will work and will also allow for a torque converter.
Thanks for watching!!
I’m going to do this same exact mod to my mm 80. Can you please tell me the chain size, chain length, clutch size, and sprocket size? It would really help. Awesome video though!
Hello sma_garage, I was using a 3/4” 12t clutch with 35chain. The rear sprocket is a 54t. If you can get a larger chain it would be better. I always buy 10’ of chain and cut to size. Like this one…amzn.to/3TNcQUG.
This clutch….amzn.to/47he8L0
The sprocket I bought from OMBWarehouse.
Thanks for watching!!
@@DIYWilly DUDE YOU ARE AWESOME!!!! Thank you so much🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Glad I can help!!
I would like to build one like that
Do it Jorge you will have a lot of fun. It’s a great hobby but can get pricey if your not careful..
I have the 420cc predator on that same frame. Had to remove the tank, exhaust, and air box but it barely fit. Looks like its all engine and 2 wheels lol.
Really? Do you have any video of that? I went to you channel but it’s mostly music. I know I don’t look like it but I’m a fan of TUPAC. I’m gonna watch the must watch video of yours when I’m done working. But honestly I would like to see a video of the 420 Mega Moto. I want to try it sooo bad. Thanks for watching
@@DIYWilly It's already dark out so I'll try to get one up tomorrow. I have let it sit all winter so I need to do a little tlc to it but I'll try to get a little preview of it up tomorrow some time.
@@KIDSIXoo That would be really cool. Really look forward to seeing it. Kinda inspired me to try the 420 install in mine..
Do U have any pics on Instagram
I would like to see this also
did you need a mount to fit the motor on?
No I drilled new holes to match the engine in the mounting plate. I made template of the bottom of the engine and measured it out to align the chain. Marked the holes and drilled. Worked perfectly as long as you have a chain tensioner. Thanks for watching!!
What is the valve lash set on this motor pls need to know can’t find any valve lash space pls help me.
For most engines including the 224 the recommended valve lash is .003 for both valves. Hope this helps thanks for watching!!
@@DIYWilly thanks brother
Glad I could help
Cool
Thanks for watching!
Where did you get the bike frame from?
I ordered it from GoPowerSports.com. Thanks for watching
What size of rims are does or what bike it came out from?
Hello they are 8inch AZUSA Spinner wheels. They are available at OMBWarehouse or GoPowerSports.
@@DIYWilly how do I find the rear rim I found the front rim not rear or the rims are the same for front and back?
Hey Willy do you have a link for the tires!!?
Thanks for watching
www.gopowersports.com/3-50-8-front-rear-tire-trials/
@@DIYWilly thanks so much I'll continue to watch I appreciate your videos and thanks for the link!!
Hello Willy what size clutch. How many tooth?
Hello Oscar, I use 3/4” #35 chain clutches with 12teeth. I do have some with 10teeth but prefer the 12 teeth clutches. Depending on the power output of your engine you may have to get a larger chain size clutch. Thanks for watching!!
My 224 Armature Gap was at .08 the top arm was at .16 the motor was shaking a lot and had some weird sounds coming out of it and a couple scratches on the flywheel I put the .08 to .16 no more issue and it's faster
Great news sounds like you found your issue.
@@DIYWilly I just set it to the same Gap as the 212 I can't find the specs for the 224
@@donniedegregorio3194 yes should be the same.
how fast did it go?
That engine and bike combo got to 53mph before the exhaust broke. I plan on revisiting that combo again. Thanks for watching!!!
I don’t think there was a need to drill holes, all you’d really need is a couple big washers and bolts and your hood to go! correct me if I’m wrong
The hole pattern and spacing is wrong for the engine. You can use adapters but that changes the height. I didn’t want to remove the gas tank or exhaust to make it fit. Look at where the holes are in the plate. They are nowhere near what is needed. Thanks for watching
You spelt good wrong
Can you pleas post a video on how to replace the motor and put a new one in?
This video shows replacing the engine.
Greta video
Thank you glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
How did u link the throttle please help
Which engine are running? The 79cc or 224?
@@DIYWilly I’m running the 224
@@DIYWilly I had to get it after this video but having some trouble installing it 😂
@ㅤY will be the same as a 212. Attach it right behind the tank. There are many videos about it. Do a search for Mech Master he has a really good video called “Throttle cable set up go kart, Predator Harbor Freight Engine”. This video will help you better then I could describe it.
Here is a link
ua-cam.com/video/tymDZ0kYxrI/v-deo.html
@@DIYWilly thank you so much man.
How much cost to engine
What’s up Jorge? It available at the local Harbor Freight right now for $189.
Hi these 224cc predators are known for the flywheel nut not being tightened down all the way,check it out and im sure your problem will go away...
It’s all good now I’ve had the whole engine apart and back together now a couple times with the proper torque specs. Thanks for watching!
What did you find to be the problem with your 224 ? Thanks
There really wasn’t anything that stood out as “That’s the problem”. I think the biggest issue was crank shaft end plan which I fixed with shims at the side cover. I didn’t measure it but install 1 thick one and 1 thin one and that seemed to get it close enough for me. I believe that the extra stroke on the crank shaft contributes to the vibration at mid range power. The vibration goes away as the rpm’s increase. I would love to get the whole rotating assembly balanced. There some diy videos out there and also some professional companies to do it but I’m fine with it.
Great comment!! Thanks again for watching!!! 👍
You ever figure out why it’s doing that because mine does it to
Hello Oliver, What is the question? What is your engine doing? Thanks for watching!
I solved the issue feel kinda dumb but it was my kick stand
I wish I knew how to install this to my mini moto 80cc
Hello Zoidlife357, it’s really not hard. There are a couple options to install the engine. You can buy an angled plate from GPS or what I did with this bike is measure out the mounting holes and drill them. Either way is super easy just take your time. Most engine adapter’s for torque converters will help install an engine in the MM80 frame. Thanks for watching
@@DIYWilly ok thanks I'll try it out
@@sayblaze Remember the most important thing is keep your chain alignment.
I have other videos showing the install of a 212 on my other mm80 bike. Take a look at those to get some more explanation of the process.
Sounds like a problem with the throttle cable not the carburetor. Disconnect the cable and try it again.
Do you sale any mini bikes
Hello Rebecca, I only have the 2 minibikes right now and even though I do plan on selling the one in the video, I’m not ready to sell yet. Maybe if your in the SD area we could talk about building you one. Send me an email. My email is in the description. Thanks for watching
Not enough information 😮.
Hello Chuck, IWhat info do you need? Thanks for watching!!
This is getting out of hand. My life insurance agent is getting tired of this nonsense! hahahah
Ready to ride it David? 😂 wheelies for days….
@@DIYWilly just let me know when and I’ll head over, I’ll definitely be wearing a helmet hahaha
Definitely need a helmet. I have the new clutch in in a couple days. Then it’s ready…