Bollywood Choreography & The Harsh Reality Of Dance Face Offs

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  • @shubha984
    @shubha984 24 дні тому +2002

    You can see she is thinking about the next step instead of completing the current one! Brilliant observation.

    • @ruchiadi
      @ruchiadi 24 дні тому +44

      I noticed it too. There was too much blinking involved by Vidya while Madhuri, right beside her, wasn't

    • @rudecomments681
      @rudecomments681 24 дні тому +115

      Isn't the point of the song to show that vidya is jealous of Madhuri's character? Seems to fit the narrative of the choreography

    • @rasesvari
      @rasesvari 23 дні тому +2

      😢

    • @sushmita0003
      @sushmita0003 23 дні тому +4

      ​@@rudecomments681exactly

    • @DIYCraftIdeas8
      @DIYCraftIdeas8 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@rudecomments681 right

  • @shabz09
    @shabz09 23 дні тому +141

    Vidya looked almost CGI as a whole. Small body, large head. Or her head was graphically added on someone else's body... Something was off.

    • @sonalpadaya69
      @sonalpadaya69 8 днів тому +7

      Even I felt so

    • @Thisworldisagoner
      @Thisworldisagoner 8 днів тому +12

      Her waist and hips looked way too small. Not that i mind if she has lost weight but we all know the gorgeous curvy body of Vidya. It just looked fake as hell

    • @gayathrinagesh7743
      @gayathrinagesh7743 7 днів тому +3

      Glad someone mentioned this. I felt that something was off with Vidhya. Maybe some editing was done to make her look slim? Or did she lose so much weight that head looks disproportionate. Hands are pudgy compared to slim body.

    • @prasennapillay2640
      @prasennapillay2640 4 дні тому

      They are both performing different dance forms. People are more familiar with Kathak dance form, less with Odissi. Thus there cannot be any comparison on whose performance is better.

    • @ashwingandhi
      @ashwingandhi 2 дні тому

      Exactly : felt like AI

  • @tejeshshettty
    @tejeshshettty 24 дні тому +2526

    Watching Kartik Aaryan footwork feels like seeing Tiger Shroff perform stunts - same stuff again and again with slight tweaks which no one really asked for.

    • @Daredevil009.1
      @Daredevil009.1 24 дні тому +61

      Kartik Aryan is outsider he is struggling to establish his career and from start he has clarity what kind of audience he is targeting like bb2 bb3 will also work in tier 2 tier 3 Cities and mass audience will watch bb3

    • @adityasingh-tr3tu
      @adityasingh-tr3tu 24 дні тому

      That's how you become star, hutiye

    • @sadhanatiwari2192
      @sadhanatiwari2192 24 дні тому +78

      Yes true he has even tried to go outside of this niche created around him.... Chandu Champion was his best work but audience rejected it! So he came back with BB3 which will work it seems... So before blaming Kartik we should also consider that he is an outsider and 2-3 more experiments (flop) will end his movie career!

    • @Daredevil009.1
      @Daredevil009.1 24 дні тому +25

      @@sadhanatiwari2192 true even maidaan was disaster but I can say Singham again will also work franchise value

    • @mahadmaimoon
      @mahadmaimoon 24 дні тому +22

      The issue i believe with kartik aaryan is that choreographers are probably told to make him do a step involving footwork so the song can go viral on reels. This in turn making the quality of the choreography look so poor. Its not his fault just whats being handed to him because hes not a bad dancer in fairness to him

  • @ptarchives
    @ptarchives 24 дні тому +202

    Madhuri is the only person to have received praise from Prabhudeva. I'm so happy you mentioned Priyanka. She dances so well but is severely underrated in that sense

  • @divya0108
    @divya0108 24 дні тому +1958

    Matching up to Madhuri in terms of dance, expressions and grace is NO JOKE. That's probably why Karan didn't let her dance in Ghar More Pardesiya with Alia

    • @sayandas3939
      @sayandas3939 24 дні тому +154

      The only one overshadowd her in dance was karishma kapoor in dtph

    • @krishnapraveen5005
      @krishnapraveen5005 24 дні тому +170

      @@sayandas3939Karishma was confident, but didn’t overshadow Ms Dixit. Madhuri has this cool n secure grace that’s just hard to beat.

    • @guptageneralstores5243
      @guptageneralstores5243 24 дні тому +57

      @@sayandas3939 I felt the same but I think it's because it wasn't Madhuri's forte. Even in pukar, contrary to the above observation, she has a problem that a lot of trained singers have singing modern songs, being so deep in their classical art form that they bring that in everything. That's why I feel Sridevi was the perfect dancer for bollywood. She knew Bharatnatyam but never used it in pure form and always mixed it with a casualness that a good but not professionally trained dancer would have

    • @conquerersyt8928
      @conquerersyt8928 24 дні тому

      She didn't overshadowed but because she was wearing sensuous clothes eyes automatically fall for Lolo ​@@sayandas3939

    • @bdasr7493
      @bdasr7493 24 дні тому +10

      ​@@sayandas3939yash chopra ne bhi madhuri ko cool dance krne ko kaha tha or karishma ko fiery like karan johar nahi to aag kya dhamaka kr deti madhuri .....ye bade log like yash karan johar sb kisi single person ko aage nhi liklte dekhna chahte

  • @prachisaini1
    @prachisaini1 24 дні тому +485

    😂😂 That CGI FLOOR IS KILLING ME , reminds me of that Weird Alien dance move of the character

    • @Ash.2001_
      @Ash.2001_ 13 днів тому +4

      Finally someone said this😂

    • @prachisaini1
      @prachisaini1 13 днів тому +2

      @Ash.2001_ 😁😁😁

  • @the-right-toe
    @the-right-toe 24 дні тому +1081

    That's why SLB movies look so great and authentic. Songs like Deewani Mastani was shot in a proper made set with little to no extra digital renderings. Yes the effort is more to shoot them but it is so worth it.

    • @Sun.Shine-
      @Sun.Shine- 24 дні тому +36

      They did had some digital touch up for the song, to enhance it. ✌️ but boy, that song is a mesmerizing piece of art ❤️

    • @Aversiontostupidity
      @Aversiontostupidity 24 дні тому +8

      REALLY?? SLB is the most fake set designer. Check mohe rang do laal and all the funny battle scenes in the movie

    • @shefalibhatt5532
      @shefalibhatt5532 24 дні тому +1

      Set banaya tha

    • @dawoodfarooqi988
      @dawoodfarooqi988 23 дні тому +7

      ​@@Aversiontostupidity Mohe Rang do has just the sky and sorroundings of the court digitally erected.. other than that the set was created

    • @Aversiontostupidity
      @Aversiontostupidity 23 дні тому +3

      @@dawoodfarooqi988 The colour scheme was so very artificial... And the claustrophobic indoor studio setting while shooting an outdoor scene is just horrible to watch. A decorative wall is not a set

  • @jobangharekhan2601
    @jobangharekhan2601 23 дні тому +40

    8:30. You are right . Hrithik and Aishwarya are seriously an underrated pair. They have an amazing chemistry ❤❤❤

  • @deeksharao5733
    @deeksharao5733 24 дні тому +655

    Aaaja Nachle is just criminally underrated.. I love how Madhuri just articulates every step .... ❤❤

    • @minervarose7664
      @minervarose7664 24 дні тому +7

      Omg yes

    • @Ashwini-u2p
      @Ashwini-u2p 24 дні тому +9

      That was my sister's annual function dance in school. She and her friends rocked that song!!

    • @deeksharao5733
      @deeksharao5733 24 дні тому +5

      @@Ashwini-u2p That's great 👏👏❤😍 who's isn't love that song and steps

    • @cocaa_colaaa
      @cocaa_colaaa 23 дні тому +9

      They don't make songs like that anymore 😭😭😭

    • @timikwatra9577
      @timikwatra9577 23 дні тому +4

      Yes agree

  • @ij1513
    @ij1513 24 дні тому +34

    A dancer making a video about dancing just hits it out of the park. Very pertinent observations. Enjoyed this one a lot!

    • @sonalpurohit5673
      @sonalpurohit5673 23 дні тому +1

      I thought he has to be a dancer to make these kind of observations! Thanks for confirming. Whats his name?

  • @SiddhaanntJagushte
    @SiddhaanntJagushte 24 дні тому +1388

    Am I the only one who thinks that the oddisi dance outfit (of Vidya balan )looks far more stunning and exotic than Madhuri's katthak which looks repetitive and overdone, it's honestly looks straight out of heera Mandi , but I have to say that the set and the colour of red and black looks kinda undone, don't know how to put it , but can't see the richness like Sanjay Leela Bhansali sets

    • @gudduprince-h7q
      @gudduprince-h7q 24 дні тому +262

      She's wearing a Bharatnatyam dress (with just a headgear from Odissi costume) and has Kucchipudi steps in between. Bollywood is a mess when it comes to mixing artforms! 😂🫠

    • @SiddhaanntJagushte
      @SiddhaanntJagushte 24 дні тому +48

      @@gudduprince-h7q wtf, the oddisi dress would have looked fabulous, especially when it is such an unexplored dance form in the main stream

    • @gudduprince-h7q
      @gudduprince-h7q 24 дні тому +8

      ​@@SiddhaanntJagushte exactly! 💯

    • @maverickmustang8058
      @maverickmustang8058 24 дні тому +36

      Even I saw the visual difference between their clothes. Vidya Balans are brighter and vibrant than Madhuris.
      I have very less understanding of of these art forms and thus out of respect I wouldn’t want to say anything about the dance or their specific attires.
      But it seems that since Vidya is competing with Madhuri, she has to look more attractive than the latter, and thus vibrancy in her clothes. Maybe that’s the case. Just a guess.

    • @SiddhaanntJagushte
      @SiddhaanntJagushte 24 дні тому +8

      @@maverickmustang8058 yep, but Vidya costume is beautiful

  • @gloryclemmens1
    @gloryclemmens1 24 дні тому +66

    honestly, i love your essays. its a pleasure to watch/ hear such high quality, well-articulated, thoughtfully crafted pieces that give voice to our collective frustrations & rants better than we ever could! :)

  • @AlterEgo-hp1be
    @AlterEgo-hp1be 24 дні тому +743

    A Sunny Deol and Ajay Devgn Dance-off would easily give everything you mentioned a run for their money...

    • @GurjinderSingh-r8s
      @GurjinderSingh-r8s 24 дні тому +36

      Let's put saif ali khan also in the mix 😅

    • @Ashwini-u2p
      @Ashwini-u2p 24 дні тому +22

      ​​@@GurjinderSingh-r8sWhat about Bobby Deol?? 🤣🤣

    • @udaygorade8697
      @udaygorade8697 24 дні тому +5

      Hahahah..wish ...😅😅😅

    • @DCBat_Mobile
      @DCBat_Mobile 23 дні тому +3

      😂😂😂😂

    • @SPECTRASTORM
      @SPECTRASTORM 23 дні тому +2

      @@AlterEgo-hp1be Kitne tejaswi log hamare pass 👍😂

  • @PrayasRahangdale
    @PrayasRahangdale 24 дні тому +37

    Everything feels artificial nowadays in movies. Creativity has dead, colours looks so dull for such a song, background looks so empty, lighting looks like tv serial. Imagine if same thing would have came 15 years back, creative minds would have killed it with presentation.

  • @vivon24
    @vivon24 24 дні тому +361

    Shobana ma'ams dance for Manichithrathazhu (bhool bhulaiya's original) will forever be the epitome of classical dance I have seen in mainstream cinema. The expressions which she conveys and the grace with which she does it is ❤

    • @sivakamisundari8459
      @sivakamisundari8459 24 дні тому +1

      These malayalees self praise is very cringey🤢

    • @cocaa_colaaa
      @cocaa_colaaa 23 дні тому

      Nagavalli 🩵

    • @cocaa_colaaa
      @cocaa_colaaa 23 дні тому

      Nagavalli 🩵

    • @hibalatheef
      @hibalatheef 23 дні тому +13

      I was looking for someone to comment this

    • @petyrparker
      @petyrparker 23 дні тому +5

      Vidya balan in mere dholna (original) comes a close second

  • @swagataroychowdhury5213
    @swagataroychowdhury5213 24 дні тому +7

    Dance movies with non dancers.. makes absolute 0 sense… especially when we have such amazing talented dancers around… thank you jammy.. finally someone said it!!!

  • @riniamnabam7613
    @riniamnabam7613 24 дні тому +1259

    Madhuri and Aishwarya’s dance off is the highest standard of dance off. No one else have reached that bar.

    • @Mariahidol
      @Mariahidol 23 дні тому +65

      It wasn't a dance off ...more like a collaboration

    • @PrinceK-dm3xs
      @PrinceK-dm3xs 23 дні тому +47

      Madhuri-Karishma???? DTPH? That's ICONIC.

    • @rasesvari
      @rasesvari 23 дні тому +1

      😢

    • @aimanabs9670
      @aimanabs9670 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@PrinceK-dm3xs its just instrumental.. without lyrics

    • @Escapist...
      @Escapist... 23 дні тому +17

      Madhuri and Prabhu Deva in Kay Sera Sera ??

  • @jeffkeen3641
    @jeffkeen3641 24 дні тому +8

    Vyjayanthimala and Gopi Krishna in Amrapali. The way it just builds up and builds up! Truly amazing cinematic experience!

  • @roshanchachane142
    @roshanchachane142 24 дні тому +931

    Aishwarya was a damn good dancer. Only, she could match the flow and rhythm of Madhuri.

    • @sadafrafiq5006
      @sadafrafiq5006 24 дні тому +29

      So trueee

    • @HimanshuSingh-rg9qw
      @HimanshuSingh-rg9qw 24 дні тому +128

      Aishwarya is very versatile. She can pull out item songs with complex choreography like crazy kiya re dhoom again robot while she can deliver classical and semi classical in umrao jaan.

    • @Gem-In_Eye
      @Gem-In_Eye 24 дні тому +61

      I really sometimes imagine what glory she could have been attained if she continued acting till now

    • @roshanchachane142
      @roshanchachane142 24 дні тому +32

      @@Gem-In_Eye She was at the top of her game when she left. Now, she is struggling with weight loss due to some health issues, I had read somewhere.

    • @Ashwini-u2p
      @Ashwini-u2p 24 дні тому +5

      ​@@roshanchachane142 You mean weight gain??

  • @zeeshanahmad3614
    @zeeshanahmad3614 23 дні тому +3

    Jammy, the fact that you are dancer, shows very clearly in this analysis. This is your best technical analysis video. I enjoyed that.

  • @i.escorpiius3570
    @i.escorpiius3570 24 дні тому +382

    Dola Re Dola is so iconic that the recreation in Rocky aur Rani, was arguably the highlight of that movie (which btw, Ranveer deserves full applause imo). The beats is perfect for a dance face-off and the SLB cinematography is unparalleled.

  • @ushadas5636
    @ushadas5636 23 дні тому +6

    The first thing which I found totally wrong (being a classical dance lover) is vidya is wearing the head crown of odissi whereas the dress style is of Bharatnatyam or Kuchipudi 🫤.

  • @AnkitGupta-u1n
    @AnkitGupta-u1n 24 дні тому +614

    The original Bhool Bhulaiya was an amazing psychological thriller and a very good remake to a masterpiece film called Manichitrathazhu.
    The sequel couldn't care less and made a complete 180 degree turn with the genre and tonality.. psychiatrists were replaced by Tantriks and so on..
    The threquel is even more shameless as it thinks the audience is completely foolish and will flock to the theaters just because Vidya is back, Madhuri is in, and budget is high... are they right? Sadly, yes.

    • @taesthetic7289
      @taesthetic7289 24 дні тому +37

      i totally agree! i remember watching bhool bhulaiya 2 and not liking it at all because it was only feeding off of the nostalgia of the first movie when it was nowhere near like it, i would’ve appreciated it more if it wasn’t named bhool bhulaiya tbh

    • @iftyhuq4321
      @iftyhuq4321 24 дні тому +8

      @@AnkitGupta-u1n to be fare in all positivity the movie should be watched because of vidya losing a lot of weight and looking a lot fitter and healthier and also for karthik putting on weight and size and looking a lot fitter and healthier. For that health and healthy life support bb3 😉👍

    • @aishwaryasmruti6611
      @aishwaryasmruti6611 23 дні тому +1

      ​@@iftyhuq4321 😂😂😂

    • @Vor567tez
      @Vor567tez 23 дні тому +12

      There's nothing original in BB3. It's same low effort content in not even new package.
      They didn't even get the horror element right. Vidya climbing the walk with Maduri looked hilarious and Madhuri couldn't do the contortion.
      I hope both Sigham and BB flops. They nothing but remake garbage. Low quality maal. But I know the opposite of it will happen. And people say ott has made audience smart. 🙄

    • @aishwaryasmruti6611
      @aishwaryasmruti6611 23 дні тому +1

      @@Vor567tez I hv not seen the movie I hv seen the climbing scene it looked exactly same like a viral horror video I hv watched alot from many sources.

  • @shwethavemuru8744
    @shwethavemuru8744 24 дні тому +3

    I am a classical dancer and I totally get it when you say starting and finishing of every step shows if the person is learnt classical dancer or just dancing ! So true ! Love this video ❤❤

  • @gudduprince-h7q
    @gudduprince-h7q 24 дні тому +450

    Is it just me overthinking, or this songs is a spoiler?? Vidya in Odissi dance/costume, Madhuri in Kathak (Uttar Pradesh), and since Manjulika is Bengali, so these two are NOT MANJULIKA.
    Tripti can be! (She's already a Bengali witch in Bulbbul) 😭😭

    • @TD5986
      @TD5986 24 дні тому +41

      Your observation is on point 💯

    • @Azx12345
      @Azx12345 24 дні тому +40

      Most creators already said this before this song that none of these actresses are manjulika it will be tripti dimri it's not a spoiler anymore😂

    • @urvashiverma9585
      @urvashiverma9585 24 дні тому +1

      True

    • @yashiagrawal8496
      @yashiagrawal8496 24 дні тому +9

      Exactly. Or why they could be hiding her in promotions.

    • @parvadhami980
      @parvadhami980 24 дні тому +19

      You think Bollywood has a penchant for such detailing?

  • @poojakipathshaala1204
    @poojakipathshaala1204 22 дні тому +5

    While I agree that Vidya Balan's dance might seem less dynamic than Madhuri Dixit's in this performance, my observation is that comparing it to 'Dola Re' or 'Pinga' doesn't quite do it justice. In 'Ami Je Tomar 3.0,' Madhuri appears to be performing Kathak (a faster dance form), whereas Vidya Balan seems to be doing Odishi (a comparatively slower dance form), creating a difference in movement. If you look closely, the choreography appears to be the same for both, but the contrast between the two dance styles is visible in small details like hand postures, movements, speed etc because of them actually being in different dance forms.

  • @sergemerto256
    @sergemerto256 24 дні тому +261

    Ami je tomar 3 looked like it was filmed in green screen. It looked faker than 2007 bhool bulaiya which is saying a lot since this time they had an actual budget too.

    • @savvi3128
      @savvi3128 24 дні тому +20

      This. I was confused why Madhuri and Vidya's glances at each other do not match to where their positions are in a few shots. And it also looks fake as everything seems super polished without any nitty gritty that a real set would have. Oh well, Anwol will tell us about it when the movie releases.

  • @Biihuu
    @Biihuu 24 дні тому +2

    How could you miss Ae Meri Zohrajabeen from Phir Hera Pheri😂😂😂 Best choreography ever.... Suniel, Akshay & Paresh rocked it👍👍👍

  • @IgaSwiatekFan-ox9rn
    @IgaSwiatekFan-ox9rn 24 дні тому +430

    I just realized from Ami Je tomar 3.0 editing & camera work is one of the most important aspect of flim making. It can make look good performance look medicore & vice-verca. Currently Vijay Ganguly is absolutely nailing the editing & camera work in bollywood in every single time.

    • @TriedRefusedProductions
      @TriedRefusedProductions  24 дні тому +92

      Vijay Ganguly is indeed one of the best choreographers working in the business currently

    • @Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi
      @Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi 24 дні тому +29

      ​@@TriedRefusedProductionsYou should have mentioned Rani Mukherjee with Shahid Kapoor in Dil Bole Hadippa. She not only matched Shahid Kapoor's energy but surpassed him in certain moments. She is one of the best dancers in bollywood.

    • @rasesvari
      @rasesvari 23 дні тому +1

      ​Oh yes @@Dr.SyedSaifAbbasNaqvi

  • @ridy9710
    @ridy9710 23 дні тому +11

    I have a gut feeling that tripti's role won't be limited to another eye candy...... fingers crossed 🤞🤞

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 24 дні тому +80

    I’m sad you didn’t mention ‘Badi Mushkil’ with Madhuri Dixit and Manisha Koirala.

  • @amy4ever2010
    @amy4ever2010 24 дні тому +11

    The Akshay Salman Face off can never be upped in anyway. They were too funny. I think they had the best time. And I agree that Priyanka is by far an amazing dancer. She was incredible in Pinga and has not been given her due as a smooth dancer as she deserves. I think I will wait for the movie to be released to see the Madhuri Vidhya face off. But You forget that the Madhuri Karishma Face off was favoring Karishma cause her youth and body worked waay better than Madhuri's at that time. You could tell the age and body and Karishma is a very fit person so she gave Madhuri a run for her money in the modern style dance.

  • @ihealithrivewithpai
    @ihealithrivewithpai 24 дні тому +112

    As a classical dancer myself, I agree with you - you're on point about the observations about Vidya Balan's dance movements. She's definitely done the best she could vs a legendary graceful dancer as Madhuri Dixit. It was unfair to cast them together in the first place. They've probably been extra airbrushed and edited to look way thinner and younger for the storyline. As dancers, it's hard to not spot moves that look incomplete or compare dancers. Nice video!

    • @OopsIDidItAgainUh
      @OopsIDidItAgainUh 15 днів тому +1

      I agree, and one thing I feel like no one is addressing is that Vidya's choreography was more semi-classical than Madhuri's. Let's start with her outfit - the Bharatanatyam clothes + Odissi hairdo. It seems like no research was done into what kind of dance form she should be doing. Next, the steps - at least we could say that Madhuri's was Kathak but what was given to Vidya? It felt like the choreographer only knew Kathak but got the task to choreograph Vidya's steps too. Vidya's choreography felt like it was made to match with those of Madhuri's Kathak but make it look like Bharatanatyam/Odissi. It was not only unfair to cast them together but give them choreographies of very different levels of classical elements in them.

  • @sn5847
    @sn5847 24 дні тому +2

    The last few seconds are so bombastic that it left even a wordsmith like Jammy speechless..

  • @AnkitGupta-u1n
    @AnkitGupta-u1n 24 дні тому +196

    Bhool Bhulaiyaa is shamelessly baiting the audience on nostalgia and cheap callbacks to the original film. What is even the purpose to reference the original film when there is no connection whatsoever?? Audiences will again flock to the theaters because 'we' don't care! Moolah is waiting for the director and producer..

    • @chandanabose7264
      @chandanabose7264 24 дні тому +11

      Original is manichitrathazhu. Bhool bhulaiya is just it's remake.

    • @AnkitGupta-u1n
      @AnkitGupta-u1n 24 дні тому +30

      @@chandanabose7264 Is the movie called Manichitrathazhu 3 or Bhool Bhulaiya 3? We are talking within the context of the 'franchise'.

    • @amitav9681
      @amitav9681 24 дні тому +17

      You think T-Series really care? I find Bhusan Kumar as a worse producer. With such money and resource available, he can literally create path breaking movies. But all we see is cringy and nostalgia driven content

    • @chandanabose7264
      @chandanabose7264 24 дні тому +3

      @@AnkitGupta-u1n we do get the same feeling as you are feeling now when we watch bhool bhulaiyas and chandramukhi😖. What was the need to recreate one of the most iconic movies in malayalam.

    • @Ashwini-u2p
      @Ashwini-u2p 24 дні тому +8

      ​​@@chandanabose7264 Well, you can ask that question to Priyadarshan. Cause he's the one remaking those films in Hindi for years now. BTW, Bhul Bhulaiya (2007) was a good remake..

  • @Whiteorchidint
    @Whiteorchidint 9 днів тому +1

    Madhuri's form in the dance is Katthak while Vidya's dancing Bharatnatyam. The forms themselves are contrast. Katthak is smoother while Bharatnatyam is exact. I feel cant compare. Love both of them ❤❤

  • @shivaaniv48
    @shivaaniv48 24 дні тому +294

    The last dance(Akshay and salman) is undoubtedly the best

    • @shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991
      @shreyanshpranshuchauhan5991 24 дні тому +20

      It's a shame that it doesn't get enough credit. Sad reality of the world

    • @thestraltheundead4093
      @thestraltheundead4093 24 дні тому +2

      wait bhul bhulaya has Akshay and Salman's cameo??? tf😂

    • @Optimistic_aspirant
      @Optimistic_aspirant 24 дні тому +1

      Akshay and Salman ? Where ?

    • @Priya-cm3tr
      @Priya-cm3tr 24 дні тому

      ​​Did you see the whole video? He is talking about the last movie clip from this video. ​@@thestraltheundead4093

    • @SPECTRASTORM
      @SPECTRASTORM 23 дні тому

      ​@@Optimistic_aspirant10:43

  • @mariyammaldha3776
    @mariyammaldha3776 24 дні тому +38

    Wait is it just me or 0:28 looks like you 😵‍💫

  • @kritikumari4124
    @kritikumari4124 24 дні тому +70

    We all should appreciate vidya mam that she didn't avoid faceoff with madhuri mam like alia did in ghar more pardeshiya .vidya mam knew her weaknesses will be shown but she was ready for that but alia was protected by all bcz they didn't want to expose alia weaknesses so only alia dancing was there in whole song nothing to do with madhuri mam so that ppl can only see, alia dance so well .ppl need to realize all this .

    • @sghosh9427
      @sghosh9427 24 дні тому +5

      So true.. In an bengali interview during the promotion of Kalank Alia told she made it clear to the director that she won’t dance with Madhuri

    • @fulichak6499
      @fulichak6499 20 днів тому +4

      It was a smarter decision on Alia's behalf, because she knew the criticism she'd face and she stepped back.

  • @ANURAGSINGH-l3n7w
    @ANURAGSINGH-l3n7w 7 днів тому +3

    I feel Vidya did a better job!

  • @amanshukla6122
    @amanshukla6122 24 дні тому +291

    U could have also mentioned the Naatu Naatu song as it is also a perfect union of great dancers and choreography plus story. I can watch Rajamouli's breakdown of the song for Vanity Fair all day.
    On a side note, i find it hilarious u have a beef with Jhoom Barabar Jhoom as I only remember two songs from that movie.

    • @shilpabiju3016
      @shilpabiju3016 23 дні тому +5

      Yup! He could have mentioned Naatu Naatu 😮

    • @varoonnone7159
      @varoonnone7159 21 день тому +1

      That song and dance were rubbish

    • @RajatG69
      @RajatG69 19 днів тому

      @@varoonnone7159 lol literally won oscars and was so loved by all over nation stfu

  • @anukrityvarshney
    @anukrityvarshney 4 дні тому

    I love how Sai Pallavi and Dhanush totally rocked together with fun choreography in rowdy baby

  • @vedantatripathi825
    @vedantatripathi825 24 дні тому +102

    The most iconic face-off is between Prem and Crime Master Gogo. That climax dance fight is 🤌

    • @RadhikaSG
      @RadhikaSG 24 дні тому +5

      True!!!!
      Iconic dance moves

    • @Satrangi222
      @Satrangi222 23 дні тому +3

      Never ever will there be another dance off like that!

    • @2007krishnan
      @2007krishnan 20 днів тому

      😂 oh yes..

  • @IndraniGS
    @IndraniGS 10 днів тому

    I am in awe how you have explained the nitty gritty comparison of dance techniques which I thought a trained dancer (likes of us) can see, not a non-dancer.. Are you a dancer yourself? I am so impressed...

  • @kvtechvarshney5179
    @kvtechvarshney5179 24 дні тому +94

    U know what wud b great, the distinction between Madhuri and Vidya's natural dancing skills becomes the cause of conflict between their characters in movie. Meaning, Madhuri's natural skill of dancing being better than Vidya's is incorporated as a plot such that Madhuri's character dances better than Vidya's character and thus she is more favored courtesan of the king. And so Vidya's character becomes disturbingly jealous of Madhuri's character and does something bad to her

    • @somasarker3544
      @somasarker3544 23 дні тому +4

      Hasn't this already been done in BB2 with Taboo? Phew!

    • @kvtechvarshney5179
      @kvtechvarshney5179 23 дні тому +4

      @@somasarker3544 Yeah kind of. But in BB2 it was intrinsic nature of Tabu's character that made the difference, while they weren't courtesans.
      I'm saying the difference should be in their dancing skills and the ghost should be of historic time!

    • @DevKumar-cv3yp
      @DevKumar-cv3yp 16 днів тому

      Well said..👌
      This kind of immatured review youtubers,just seeing a small glimpse and criticizing..I dont know when is this going to stop..horrible youtubers🤦🤦.how many things are hidden in this song..jsuut like thatt he critisized 🤦🤮

  • @radhikapillai378
    @radhikapillai378 24 дні тому +1

    You’re so right about the completely different dancing abilities of the two stars. Kudos to Vidya for trying.

  • @farenough7058
    @farenough7058 24 дні тому +96

    Madhuri dixit is Hrithik Roshan female version. And yes even though they were dancing together, the vfx background and lighting is so on the face that you feel like they shot separately. Let's hope it will be seen good in the big screen 🤞😁

  • @estellelis9227
    @estellelis9227 20 днів тому +2

    💯💯👍🏻 Absolutely Right observation.
    Ami je tomar of bhool bhulaiyaa 1 was anyway the Best❤ performed by Vineeth & vidhya balan..

  • @LalitaRukmaniLal
    @LalitaRukmaniLal 24 дні тому +54

    I just Love VBalan she's the Super ❤

  • @FinVish
    @FinVish 23 дні тому +9

    3:33 Nope. You can still see the weird interaction of Madhuri Dixit's outfit with Vidya Balan. And look at Vidya Balan's legs. They don't match up with the floor.

  • @kelly123sona
    @kelly123sona 24 дні тому +40

    You are so astute and articulate J!
    I watched the 3.0 version and felt something was off but couldn't put my finger on it. The VFX overkill has to STOP. Bollywood rarely delivers in horror genre. The original Bhool Bhulaiya was exceptional .Unfortunately, the sequels do not even come close. Apart from the silly VFX, they should stop casting Kartik Aryan. He just does not hold a candle to Akshay's finesse with comic time and a completely contrasting sincerity with which he explains Avni's mental health condition to her husband.
    P.S.- So glad I clicked on this video because I needed a break from the craziness of US elections

    • @ManiacRoy
      @ManiacRoy 22 дні тому +2

      Well they got one part of horror right - the kind of trailer they made left me horrified as they butchered our childhood fav film.

    • @kelly123sona
      @kelly123sona 22 дні тому

      @ LOL 😂

    • @aryanraval6256
      @aryanraval6256 8 днів тому

      @kelly123sona I dont think its right to compare the acting of Karthik to Akshay in this case since Akshay an achieved psychiatrist in BB1, whereas Karthik is more of an outcast who didn't have anything else better to do. In my opinion karthik fit the role that he was appointed perfectly, and I don't think Akshay would've fit the standards that were required to be met in BB3, and nor do i think that Karthik would've fit BB1 standards (given how young he is and how he is downright too immature for that role). You may say Akshay Kumar's role wasn't entirely mature, as he did deliver amazing comedy scenes in BB1, but those comedy scenes were mature too; at the same time, he was analyzing the behaviours of the people that lived in the house through his deemed idiocy. All in all, I just think its very unfair to compare Akshay and Karthik, because they both performed outstandingly well in their own department. If the roles were switched, both wouldn't be as iconic.

  • @mandVisual
    @mandVisual 23 дні тому +3

    made them look younger with airbrush i think because of flashback scene like they did Tabu in BB2 and RK in Animal during school scenes

  • @persona8208
    @persona8208 24 дні тому +432

    That's why dola re dola remains ICONIC. Even my mother , masi who witnessed Madhuri's peak confessed that Aishwariya almost outshined Madhuri.

    • @abhishekbhardwaj8398
      @abhishekbhardwaj8398 24 дні тому +103

      Well technically people who understand dancing know that Madhuri Dixit dances the appropriate amount. As quoted by Late Choreographer Saroj Khan. Aishwarya on the other hand goes a little overboard with her excitement and expressions. Although It takes great strength to match up to Madhuri and Aishwarya is a phenomenal dancer. Her later performances are more refined like Kajrare. In Dola re she was too jumpy and over expressive. Something which amateurs perceive as great dancing.

    • @suchith9327
      @suchith9327 24 дні тому +6

      ​@@abhishekbhardwaj8398 good point totally agree with you 👍

    • @sapnasura
      @sapnasura 24 дні тому +31

      @@abhishekbhardwaj8398Absolutely correct. Ash was too jumpy with child like excitement and overly expressive. Madhuri expressed her love, fear, devotion with such nuisances; subtle yet powerful. In a jugalbandi, I’m yet to see anyone outshining Madhuri.

    • @iftyhuq4321
      @iftyhuq4321 24 дні тому +13

      Aishwariya is really talented. She had so many talent she gave so much to Bollywood it actually mind blogging . If you consider the greatest trend setters in Bollywood when it comes to fashion and dance the top 3 that comes to your mind is sridevi mumtaz and aishwarya . hema Malini and rekha are basically clones of mumtuz they just copy what she wore how she dance the desi voli girl image they just took from her than came sridevis in the 80sa bit more western desi girl a bit more bold desi girl who can do classical and western dance she completely changed the heroine look the the whole 80s to 90s all the actress copied sridevi may be karisma tried to break the mold but she was never that big of a trendsetter. Lastly came ash she just took it to another lv the fashion and dance and desi girl image went to a global lv and I don't see anybody breaking that right now, still to this day every modern actress directly or indirectly copies her. Just think about her impact is so strong that it's been 20 years and people are still following her

    • @abhishekbhardwaj8398
      @abhishekbhardwaj8398 24 дні тому +7

      @@iftyhuq4321 Okay. But your scattered essay is not required and doesn't help the topic. Nobody is undermining anybody's talents and achievements.

  • @Fashionjournall
    @Fashionjournall 6 днів тому +4

    Umm.... i disagree... vidya Balan was so much more. It's a dance off between kathak and bharatnatyam as well. She is dancibg beautifully. The cinematography is poor not the dance.

    • @dhanyanair1799
      @dhanyanair1799 День тому

      Vidya ji's bharatnatayam movements are nor clean 🙄.. Especially hand movements

  • @megsie1424
    @megsie1424 24 дні тому +23

    Episodes where Jammy talks about dance just hit different. You can see he's truly in his zone and element.

  • @ramyaram7956
    @ramyaram7956 18 днів тому

    Everyone talks about the examples he mentioned. I'm blown away by the way he analysed each and every detail. He just changed my perspective of watching dance performances on screen now!!

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 24 дні тому +55

    In the immortal words of Johnny Lever: “AAJ JO MAJA AAYEGA NA BHIDU!”
    (The dance discourse on this channel hits different)

    • @Passionate-i2m
      @Passionate-i2m 24 дні тому +4

      How are you so active in youtube😂 I find you everywhere in popular youtube channels

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 24 дні тому +1

      @@Passionate-i2m I have too many opinions. That’s why I’m active 😂

    • @froggywithaheart
      @froggywithaheart 24 дні тому +3

      ​@@Passionate-i2m same...I've seen him in channels from india to america lol...

    • @Heeheeeeee22
      @Heeheeeeee22 24 дні тому +1

      ​@@froggywithahearthaha

    • @PokhrajRoy.
      @PokhrajRoy. 24 дні тому

      @@froggywithaheart Ticket to Hollywood Arre Ticket to Hollywood (Lauta De)

  • @sargambahl
    @sargambahl 9 днів тому

    So so glad you brought this up!

  • @dh1vya
    @dh1vya 24 дні тому +28

    Any time I hear face-off dance, the only song that comes to my mind is Vyjayanthimala vs Padmini, Kannum Kannum Kalanthu song, from Vanjikottai Valiban movie, Tamil classic.

    • @EvolveYourBrain
      @EvolveYourBrain 24 дні тому

      I agree

    • @jv96p59
      @jv96p59 24 дні тому

      Yes. Nothing can beat that performance. Two brilliant dancers coming together.

  • @shilpashanbhag8204
    @shilpashanbhag8204 19 днів тому

    1. This critical review is bang on and decently worded too. I learnt a lot. And I totally agree with each point made.
    2. Yes, the costume are wanting.

  • @PokhrajRoy.
    @PokhrajRoy. 24 дні тому +17

    In defence of ‘Jhoom Barabar Jhoom’, I think the songs are flamboyant and fun. The song vibed well with everyone.

    • @iftyhuq4321
      @iftyhuq4321 24 дні тому +7

      @@PokhrajRoy. yes yes. That movie was fun. The songs where fun too. Lara and preity both looked really hot in that movie

    • @Cationna
      @Cationna 24 дні тому +5

      I agree, it was great for what it is! And I have to admit, the choreography was matched well to the actors, as in it played to their strengths and didn't pose overwhelming challenges to their abilities. It still doesn't explain why the heck they hired those actors for a movie specifically about dancing (Preiti is by far the most competent, and even she is simply not in the category of dancers), but hey, the end result is fun!

  • @henaldsilva3352
    @henaldsilva3352 10 днів тому

    Beautifully described. Loved the analysis

  • @nimeshparmar4902
    @nimeshparmar4902 24 дні тому +117

    WHAT IF..
    This whole dance sequence is there in the movie just to show that madhuri's character was better both in looks and dance then vidya's character. Manjhulika vs Manjhulika

    • @MostlyVJ
      @MostlyVJ 24 дні тому +22

      Bhool Bhulaiya Maker's Aren't that wise

    • @TriedRefusedProductions
      @TriedRefusedProductions  24 дні тому +130

      From prior experience, We think in far more layers than the makers themselves

    • @NSuresh2
      @NSuresh2 24 дні тому +2

      😂😂😂​@@TriedRefusedProductions

    • @dr.khushbooagarwal786
      @dr.khushbooagarwal786 24 дні тому +6

      Could be a love story between these two women's....

    • @kashish6197
      @kashish6197 24 дні тому

      ​@@dr.khushbooagarwal786that would be brilliant

  • @harshadasamant6211
    @harshadasamant6211 23 дні тому +1

    Really like your dance analysis. We can see how passionate you can get about these details!

  • @vikasmaurya6719
    @vikasmaurya6719 24 дні тому +10

    You literally say my mind at last... i literally got headache while watching bhool bhulaiya 3 title track.. Enough Kartik Leg steps🤕🤕😆😆

  • @nupur25shankar
    @nupur25shankar 24 дні тому +4

    Very well said. Actually Madhuri is a trained kathak dancer where as Vidya is not a dancer. The saddest part today in Mumbai Film industry is that neither there are trained classical choreographers nor trained classical dance actors.
    Earlier mostly actresses were trained classical dancer be it Vyjantimalaji, Padmini Ragini ji Kumkum ji etc etc.
    Nowadays it's totally chaotic.
    Thank you for your honest review 🙏

    • @timikwatra9577
      @timikwatra9577 23 дні тому +1

      Vidya is a trained Bharatnatyam dancer . That's why she is dancing well in the song . Madhuri is a league apart and it's difficult to match her perfect steps on any song

  • @COMIC_EDITS
    @COMIC_EDITS 24 дні тому +14

    What would be great: In BB3, they integrate the parity between the dancing capabilities into the narrative and the reason for Vidya's jealousy towards Madhuri, and the looks Vidya gives to Madhuri during the sequence.

  • @neelamshakil
    @neelamshakil 4 дні тому

    Loved your attention to details

  • @darshu790
    @darshu790 24 дні тому +13

    Not a face off. But as we are talking about the dance and choreography and the reality of those. Katrina Kaif's dance floor single in Jab Tak Hai Jaan. Hrithik Roshan's dance floor bit in Kites. Totally unexpected dance of Aishwarya Rai in Guzaarish. Those are the ones that we rarely see in movies these days.

  • @sonacraseva
    @sonacraseva 22 дні тому

    So articulate this vid is !! Great content 🎉

  • @nawfelfahim7670
    @nawfelfahim7670 24 дні тому +11

    I don't know if it is cause I do photography or what but I think it bothers me a lot that a lot of the shadows don't make sense. Bits and pieces of the floor, like you said seem green screened and it feels like they did not perform together which is a big down point of the choreography. Some bits could have been done in better ways rather than green screening them in together. The piano/dancing scene from La La Land, spins the camera back and forth between the two actors, it could have easily been done in this case as well instead of putting them together in the same scene post production. Obviously we can't say much from that 1:42 clip but i really HOPE, they try to fix whatever they can before the release just so this beautiful piece looks amazing on the big screen.

  • @sdmamansood9687
    @sdmamansood9687 24 дні тому

    I wasn't able to put a finger on what's wrong in the dance and here comes Anmol as a dancer to point it out! Well done !

  • @vedantbakshi6546
    @vedantbakshi6546 24 дні тому +18

    Anees Bazmee has no idea how to use the shadows and the poor cgi which is sad, because the DOP Manu Anand is not bad at all, his work on Fan and Zero is outstanding

  • @riwajdahal7462
    @riwajdahal7462 24 дні тому +1

    How could you be such of a great analyser? I thought i was the only one to detect the unnatural precision of MD in her dances and the ICONIC DOLA RE DOLA with longer shots, Aishwarya being an underrated dancer and Kat killing the Suraiya too. Yk even Dupatta mera by MD is underrated too. You are a good analyser fr

  • @shubhamluhadia
    @shubhamluhadia 24 дні тому +11

    Jammy - I think you should preface that this is only for 90s and beyond, because talking about dance combos and not including those of Vyjanthimala or Sridevi or Meena Kumari has to be a crime.

  • @RenuSharma28sept
    @RenuSharma28sept 16 днів тому

    Great ! You mentioned everything and that too amazingly! Keep going ❤

  • @runjhunjain8520
    @runjhunjain8520 24 дні тому +12

    Look hown many times we talk about Bhoot Buliya 1 even not the original one. Bcoz of how great it is & perfect.. whenever Bb2&3 and compare them
    Priyadashan is great director/film-maker 😊😊

  • @Thatonlyone678
    @Thatonlyone678 24 дні тому +1

    Welcome back🎉 Anmol !! ❤❤

  • @mandirachauhan7910
    @mandirachauhan7910 24 дні тому +6

    No one can match Madhuri ❤… apart from her body, she can even dance with her face only, which reminds me of the title track from “hum aapke hain kaun”

  • @soumipaul423
    @soumipaul423 14 днів тому

    Jammy I am seriously confessing that this is one of your best or rather your besssssssst video so far!!!! Loved each and every opinion you made!!❤❤❤❤❤

  • @swapnilthorat4648
    @swapnilthorat4648 24 дні тому +43

    I was disspointed when Karan Johar didn't used Madhuri in Kalank in that song which always makes us wanting more than fulfilling dance number.
    I thought Madhuri was getting old and they didn't wanted to tarnish her image but now I realized they just wanted to protect Alia, no one would have given a single damn about her, if Madhuri had just bit of leg shake and faced off, she just stoles the show with only her expressions!
    Vidya Balan is tremendous actress but anyone couod feel short in front grace that Madhuri brings.

    • @sghosh9427
      @sghosh9427 24 дні тому +2

      BB3 will be a tight slap who often say that Madhuri is an average actor

    • @Mira-pm3ni
      @Mira-pm3ni 23 дні тому +3

      ​@@sghosh9427 how can Madhuri be an average actor when she is the queen of expressions 🤨

    • @sghosh9427
      @sghosh9427 23 дні тому +2

      @@Mira-pm3ni Few kids comments rubbish, without knowing and seeing any of her work in films like Anjaam, pukar, mrityudand, lajja, prahhar, parinda, khalnayak.

  • @SB-zc6ep
    @SB-zc6ep 22 дні тому

    What a video Jammy. Very well articulated. Being a trained classical dancer myself, this video was a delight to watch 😊

  • @Anand_M34
    @Anand_M34 24 дні тому +16

    10:17 totally agree with everything you say 🤣

  • @dancesational1507
    @dancesational1507 22 дні тому +3

    Personally over time I have felt Madhuri has lost her charm and does it very over. Vidya Balan herself cant compare to her since devdas I haven’t really been a fan of her dance pieces. I can’t I can’t This might be unpopular but i hate her dance pieces now and i am a classical dancer too. The same problem i had with alia in ghar more pardesiya and madhuri in the same song. Songs like salam, dola re dola had me experience the utmost adah but this doesn’t qualify my taste for her art

  • @mbanerjee5889
    @mbanerjee5889 24 дні тому +32

    Dhola Re Dhola is pinnacle of Bollywood classical dance. It has a cinematic quality while still being fun and elegant. And they have been trying to copy ever since.
    It's funny the you bring up Akshay and Salman because they did actually have great chemistry while dancing. It felt organic and had perfect comedic timing. That is very hard to pull off; unless you are Govinda.

    • @Cationna
      @Cationna 24 дні тому +2

      Very true! It's a very different style of dancing, but there's art to it like there is to other kinds of comedy

  • @AmolNimbalkar
    @AmolNimbalkar 21 день тому +1

    THIS is why Anmol has reached where he is! Tell me another UA-camr who has managed to discuss different facets of film making so well. Fantastic video Jammy!

  • @HariomTalreja
    @HariomTalreja 24 дні тому +52

    One actor who doesn't need airbrushing is Maddy he needs just one shave 🤣🤣

    • @foridaeasmin8165
      @foridaeasmin8165 24 дні тому +1

      What is airbrushing ?

    • @HariomTalreja
      @HariomTalreja 24 дні тому

      @@foridaeasmin8165 basically reverse aging

    • @santusanturohit4832
      @santusanturohit4832 24 дні тому

      ​@@foridaeasmin8165 using software to make you look young, thinner and better

    • @kujojotaro8752
      @kujojotaro8752 24 дні тому +4

      ​@@foridaeasmin8165 I don't know how to describe it exactly. Just look at the actors faces mentioned in the video. They seem unnatural. Just observe their faces properly.

    • @Seren-h7c
      @Seren-h7c 19 днів тому

      ​@@foridaeasmin8165I think whitewashing the face to look more young n new😂😂😂😂like polishing

  • @heavenlykokan
    @heavenlykokan 19 днів тому

    Perfect analysis ❤

  • @na5h597
    @na5h597 24 дні тому +5

    Madhuri’s expression are weird maybe due to botox but Vidya looks absolutely splendid even the dance moves of vidya are more classy also

  • @ashwiniwagh310
    @ashwiniwagh310 18 днів тому

    Wow, brilliant research. Great work Sir 🎉

  • @fam-yb5md
    @fam-yb5md 24 дні тому +23

    😂😂😂😂😂😂 the last one was iconic 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @SahanaRamachandra
    @SahanaRamachandra 24 дні тому

    Bang on.. this is just how I felt about the face off between Madhuri and Vidya. No one can match up to the years of classical training and practice. It just shows very evidently on screen. And you were so right about the digitisation of the faces… they don’t really need it as they are naturally so beautiful. I don’t know how they even agree upon for such digital plastic surgeries to be performed on screen ☹️

  • @santoshnistala990
    @santoshnistala990 24 дні тому +4

    Well put buddy. Perhaps one of your top 5 works. Great explanation of the difference between a trained dancer and an instantaneous one. The same applies while demonstrating a sport too.
    Just compare the cricketing skills in Lagan (even the English cricketers’) with that of in Jersey or Dhoni etc

  • @mainaksengupta3269
    @mainaksengupta3269 14 днів тому

    What an observation dear.. Hats off ❤️❤️

  • @AnkitGupta-u1n
    @AnkitGupta-u1n 24 дні тому +10

    Greatest faceoff: Sir Himesh De Niro v/s Prabhu Deva Gyllenhaal in Badass Ravikumar.

  • @sheega6190
    @sheega6190 24 дні тому +2

    Superb analysis. Absolutely correct. Vidhya is unbearable. Her dance movements are not correct. But they have also done pathetic AI work for face of madhuri looking . Which is very bad.

  • @subha8956
    @subha8956 24 дні тому +36

    exited for shans podcast with pj

    • @TriedRefusedProductions
      @TriedRefusedProductions  24 дні тому +25

      It has to be heavily edited LOL! No way the rough cut can go public

    • @shivaaniv48
      @shivaaniv48 24 дні тому +2

      ​@@TriedRefusedProductions 😂😂😂

    • @Nishanth_mementomori
      @Nishanth_mementomori 24 дні тому

      ​@@TriedRefusedProductions I hope there's a rant about a certain kannada movie y'all reviewed and were unfairly forced to take down

  • @gautammarathe4320
    @gautammarathe4320 17 днів тому

    Wowww very well explained. One of the best reviews I have ever heard

  • @subrinaurmy545
    @subrinaurmy545 24 дні тому +8

    Thank you for mentioning Kay Sara Sara. I love that song and Madhuri and Prabhu deva's performance.❤❤

  • @HaimantiBardhan
    @HaimantiBardhan 13 днів тому

    absolutely loved this review and explanation...apt!