Bobby Heenan on Rick Rude & Why Managers Were Phased Out
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- Bobby Heenan discusses why Ravishing Rick Rude was difficult to manage in the World Wrestling Federation.
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RIP to the late-great Bobby "The Brain" Heenan.
Bobby has managed the absolute best of the best when it comes to pro wrestling. One of his best acquisitions was Rick Rude who came in from the NWA where he was tag champs with Raging Bull Manny Fernandez.
Find out from Heenan why he says Rude never wanted a manager and why the role of manager has been phased out in recent years.
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Amen to that, sir👍💯 R.I.P. Bobby 'The Brain' Heenan & 'Ravishing' Rick Rude😇 1 of the greatest manager/wrestler combos of all time
....if not THE greatest in my opinion💗
I am glad Bobby Heenan got into the wrestling profession, he was such a professional at it and the wrestling world would not have been the same without him in it.
Even though he was too good for wrestling. He could have been a world class comedian with his sense of timing and delivery and could have been A LOT more famous, but he dedicated it all to wrestling and I hope most wrestling fans understand how lucky they were to have him.
Bobby was truly the Brain. We love and miss you.
Rude didn't need a manager, but having Bobby would be a bonus.
Was a bonus, was
@@AreUmyBitchassHoe well quite.
A character like Rude has to have a valet. He needs an assistant. He is a leader and ruler a king if you will.
I personally think Rude needed a manager for that something extra. In the NWA it was Paul Jones, In WWF it was Bobby Heenan, in WCW it was Paul E Dangerously.
In those days pretty much all the heels needed a manager
These Bobby Heenan videos are a treasure trove. Much appreciate hearing this side of the business. Thanks for posting.
Bobby Heenan = GOAT
Not the GOAT. A WEASEL.
Rick Rude was a phenomenal heel. A true great of wrestling craft.
Thanks!
Agreed. No heel (before or since) has got more heat from audiences than Rick Rude, circa 1987-94.
@@TheTruth-pl3mk I'd say only Ted Dibiase might have. But then Ted was SO GOOD, that eventually some people liked his character. Not too many people really liked Rude during his prime.
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Sgt Slaughter easily did
Rude didn’t needs a manager. But Heenan absolutely amplified his character. It was an excellent insurance policy.
This man was such a genius and legend. If you’re new to wrestling, know his name. He was just that damn good.
Poor Rick Rude. He mostly has a manager with him (from Percy Pringle to Bobby Heenan) when Rick is a solid talker.
I think though, he and Heenan 'fit' together and the period they were together in WWE/then F was excellent, even if they didn't truly get along or Bobby only saw him as a business partner. It never showed, which is testament to their professionalism and talents. They looked great together and were natural heels. I think Rick would have been fine on his own, but with Heenan everything excellent was amplified.
@@colingram8785 I just don't get why promoters had Rick Rude with a manager.
I think even when Rick was the International World Champion in WCW, he was managed by Paul Heyman.
Heenan and Rude were the BEST combo ever.
Perfect, and Henning better chemistry. Too bad Booby was to bang up when he got Curt .
They were great working together. But, They did not like each other
Heenan and monsoon were the best combo ever
Heenan and Bockwinkel were the GOAT
@@erinlorca1240They were perfect together.
I miss the Heenan Family. RIP Bobby Heenan. Thank you for the good laughs.
This is what the business is missing today. Not only larger than life stars but managers who get the talent over or in Bobby’s case get nuclear heat.
I can’t believe how young Rick Rude was. He was only about 25 when I first saw him. Classic.
I saw an old vintage wrestling tape with Bobby Heenan as a wrestler. It was a tag team match that had Dick the Bruiser. Anyway, Heenan was easily the best performer, he sold and drew heat big time.
Sure Rude could have done it on his own. BUT, with Bobby at his side, his act was even better. These two just complimented each other and it wouldn't have been the same without Heenan.
I hated Bobby Heenan for so long, which proves to me, he was the best. He knew his job, and he did it very well. RIP Bobby
A heel manager in your corner is a bonus! Referee distractions or ankle trips to your opponent running off the ropes. All helpful.
I could listen to Bobby Heenan all day long. Great man.
It's a shame to hear Bobby didn't really get much from the situation with Rick. Before seeing this I always thought they got on really well, especially given how amazing and genuine their professional partnership appeared, but according to this, it was only business nothing more, sad 😢
I'm disappointed that he didn't like the Red Rooster.
That’s life!
❤ The Brain, the Weasel, will always be #1 in managers. Fantastic understanding of crowd psychology
Bobby's been asked these questions 10,000 times but always answers like he's heard it for the first time.
Rick could talk
It's sad to hear that Rude thought that about Bobby.
Right!😢
They were really great together.
I really admire this guys candor. He's worthy of his nickname indeed!
I met Heenan in Binghamton NY years ago - nicest guy in the world.
Do they have a venue in Binghamton where they’d have wwf/wcw shows?
I remember Heenan as a wrestler
He and Bockwinkle were a great tag team.
This was the genius of the brain. He could give character to wrestlers with none and he could amplify wrestlers with talent already.
I loved to HATE him… he was that good!! Actually he was GREAT!!
Rudd had a great schtick. Nobody could have done it better. Right, features, build, arrogant personality and enough charisma to put it all together and make it an A level character. One of a kind.😀😀
He said at the end that he could have either gone to medical school or kick and distract.
Sir, you made a lot of people happy by kicking and distracting. I wager you would have done just fine ad a doctor, but there are a lot of folks who are glad you became a manager. Thank yoy.
Bobby Heenan the doctor. LOL
Trip or distract
Definitely more ethical to kayfabe than going to law school to "trip/trick and distract" as an ambulance chaser
Never thought I'd say..."Bobby Heenan is not a bad guy".....well spoken in all I've watched and I think a straight shooter.
Adrian Street had an ad for His wrestling school in the various magazines when I was a kid.I called Him one day and Miss Linda answered.Adrian and I had a conversation about My interest in becoming a wrestler I inquired about,perhaps,being a manager.I cant recall His verbatim response,but it was one that was indicative of how much He frowned upon the mere idea of managers.
One neednt Anyone to get over if They are good enough.
Hart,Cornette,Heenan,Dillon and Ellering could talk the fans into buying a ticket and very few were and are bestowed the ability to do that.The majority were just props that seemingly served no purpose other than to fill out the roster.
Don't forget Slick
Ridiculous considering he had one
"Thank you" Brain for choosing wrestling.
Bobby paired with Rick was a great pairing that reminded me a lot of JJ being paired with Ric Flair. Neither Rick Rude or Ric Flair neccesarily needed Bobby or JJ as they had solid mic skills. But getting paired with Bobby and JJ helped elevate the level heel heat that they both received.
Bobby's been asked these questions 10,000 times but always answers like he's heard i for the first time.
Bobby is very talented. He'd be successful at any business he's want to get into .RIP Brain
REST in peace Bobby and rude
I would like to see either a bio documentary or a movie based on Bobby Heenan’s life. He has great stories and a great outlook on the business. 😊
One of the best managers ever. R.I.P legend.
We miss you Bobby ❤
Without a doubt the best heal manager ever. If I was Vince I would have never let Bobby go.
One of my favorite finishing moves. Rude awakening
One of the best 👌 👍
Bobby ELEVATED EVERYONE he worked with. Working with Bobby was always an honor. The man knew wrestling in and out. Why would you NOT want to work with him? The most over figure in wrestling, heel or face worked with Bobby, ... Andre the Giant was a Bobby guy and Bobby ALWAYS made his guys look better and be better
Rude had manager almost from start, definitely could see him feeling like he was held back. But in ring, he was solid. Brain definitely sounds humble & greatful in this interview. It was devastating to see him ostracized in late years, after surgeries. Just doing the conventions & signings. 2 Big stars talked about in tbis video..
I see a video with Bobby, I click on that video.
Curt and Bobby were better combo. Too bad Bobby was to bang up when he manage Curt. They had great chemistry together. Think Bobby enjoyed managing Curt.
Rude had managers in WCCW and the NWA ….. him with a manager in WWF made sense to me cause I was used to him with Paul Jones in the NWA
Even to the end in WCW, where he had Paul E. Dangerously.
I always thought they were a great tandem. Loved those guys. Great heels. "Cut the music!"
My mom used to talk about Bobby. She was a waitress at a Hooks in Indianapolis and he went in all the time. He said he was going to be big one day. 😂
So in wcw and wwf he went too? Did he take pictures and sign autographs? Did he arrive with gorilla monsoon?
Rip Brain. Goat Manager and the MVP of the 1992 Royal Rumble
Bobby Heenan is like turbocharging your car, he would boost any wrestler's profile.
What today's punks could learn from this cat when he was around. Those smart, old timers learned something + put it to use. Quite often it's the little things that cause more heat. I love how Bobby understood the business so much better than anyone + Vince was an idiot not to give Bobby the 'Book' (unless he did offer but Bobby refused it). He knew what popped + what didn't put Asses in the seats. Listen to what he said about the bits w/females. There's NO PAYOFF. The only thing you can do there is have the dame deck the heel - but how many times can you go there? It's like a 'Dusty Finish'
Wow this makes me feel a little sad and nostalgic when Bobby brought up the old Marigold Gardens in Chicago. My dad lived right by it and went to all the matches in the 50's and 60's just like Bobby. My dad is long passed now but Marigold Gardens is about a mile away from Wrigley Field where my dad also went all the time to see the Cubs play. My uncle (long gone) worked at the ticket gate and let my dad sneak in for free at the Cub games. *Marigold Gardens* haven't heard that in at least 40 years. Glad i watched this video
The Marigold Arena televised on the old Dumont Network in the 1950's.
I remember reading a headline in a non-wrestling magazine sometime in the early 90s that said something about Rick Rude really disliking Bobby Heenan. They were both heels and paired together in a manager/wrestler role so I knew it wasn't part of a story line. According to Scott Steiner, Rick Rude hated Ric Flair so I don't doubt he also hated Bobby Heenan.
Rude had a manager practically his entire career. lol in WCW, he had Madusa AND Heyman. Did he need them? Probably not, but every one of them enhanced him. Paul Jones, Pringle, Heenan. Heyman. Madusa.
I don't know how real his matches with Bruiser and Crusher were but they sure looked painful.
Final line is great 😂😂😂
LOVE TO THE BRAIN!!!!
The red rooster , he's I buy a ticket to see him.
RIP Bobby.
Speaking for myself of course i could listen too Bobby talk for hours.. Nobody had a Brain for the business like the Brain..
RIP Bobby!
Heenan and Cornette
In WCCW, Rude had Percival Pringle (a.k.a.: Paul Bearer) as a manager. They seemed to work well together.
Rick was my favorite
Poor Terry Taylor lol Heenan never missed an opportunity to bury him. I actually liked the Red Rooster gimmick a lot when i was a kid.
Lol he always buries him. I liked the gimmick too as a kid. Now I laugh, but he served his purpose in WWF imo
The brain was just a pro; true class
The modern day Paul heyman reminded me of the brain
He lied at the end there. I have never seen Bobby Heenan trip anybody or ever distract a referee. This guy is some kind of imposter.
#RIPBobbyHeenan
#RIPRickRude
Can anyone imagine Booby Heenan (the character!) as a doctor?
Patient -"I think I strained my back doc.."
Bobby -"Ya ham and egger,quit whining about your achy breaky back."
I’ve long thought Rude was the most underrated wrestler of that era … and the absolute best heel … I think if Vince had put the strap on him he might have been an all-time great … perhaps it could have been Bobby’s pinnacle … but then what do I know I’m just sitting here drinking and smoking.
Other then Bad News Brown most of the heels had managers in the late 80's. And Heenan, Slick, Jimmy Hart and Mr.Fuji each had there own stable of wrestlers
I phased out around the same time managers were phased out
When did this interview happen?
The people who got into the business like Heenan and JJ Dillon and cornette paid their dues and earnt their way in because they loved the business
People want TNA, so bring back Baywatch. Putting Rick Rude with Heenan was just a clever way to make him a villain with no build up. It worked but it also worked against him. It made nobody want to see him win. That is like a death sentence if you want to win, and while he did get over and even gain the gold from time to time it still sucked. It was always short lived glory that left him complaining. It was a guilt by association that he would never live down. A real gyp deal that made him feel screwed coming out the gate. He was very keenly aware of this, mostly because everyone told him this would happen. Opportunities that he would have been a better man to have been given went to someone else time and again for this reason. I would have been feeling pissed off too. I mean remember the no ring ability Warrior? Need I say more?
You take Heenan out of the Rude equation, his stories with Warrior, Piper, and Orndoff don't go anywhere. Rude fans will disagree but he needed something to put him over the top as a heel. He was great in the ring, but he was like Jake Roberts to me, needed something else to get over. Jake had the snake and the ddt to get attention, Rude had Heenan and the body. Vince was correct.
Although Rick could carry his own on the mic it was much better because of the Chippendale angle to have Bobby just like you're at a club doing the MC work! Get the acts over let them do little parts of their schtick to let them exude their persona... You have showtime! There is Bobby then there's everybody else 😇💯👌
What modern promoters don't get is that in addition to speaking for poor promo people, it's a way heels can win without taking heat from babyfaces, AND sometimes prolong money feuds by dangling a match by "weasel-suit match" type stipulations.
That’s a pity. I imagined the two would have got on well.
Rude was probably right that he didn’t need a manager.
He always had a manager everywhere he went: Hart in Memphis, Pringle in WCCW, Jones in Crockett Promotion, Bobby in WWF, Heyman in WCW....so Bobby wasn't his first manager, having one was always a part of Rude's gimmick.
I like that we had em,but let's face it wrestling managers are like the garnish on a main course plate.
Val Venus was a fake Rick Rude
Come on man, Val Venus was brilliant. Just admit they both were good.
Always find it interesting Rude & Heenan worked so well together but didn't really enjoy the experience.
To be fair though, Rude and Heenan were a great combo
I thought Rude andl Bobby were a great match. They complimented each other because they were both talkers. When he got Bobby on his side it elevated Rude a lot, so it worked!
they need to bring back mangers again they were great but u wont get mangers like the brain or slickster again
There was never a more apt nickname than "The Brain" was for Bobby Heenan
Even Bill Maher told him “now I know why they call you the brain” because he was being funnier than Bill on his own show
Heenan had stated pro wrestling was always about making money
Rude wasn't the type of wrestler who needed a manager to talk for him. He was like top 10-15% on the mic. Go manage King Kong Bundy, One Man Gang, Earthquake, etc.
Rude was always given a manager: Jimmy Hart in Memphis, Pringle in WCCW, Paul Jones in Crockett Promotion, Bobby in WWF, Heyman in WCW....it was basically part of his character to have a manager with him, managers are not only there to talk, they can be more than mouthpieces.
Rooster needed Heenan because on his own he was so limited.
Rude was the ONLY reason I ever watched wrestling. It was sort of like when I would watch The Three Stooges…if Curly wasn’t on the episode, I wouldn’t bother…
Heenan was a great manager, and they were a good pair.
Yup
I never thought rude didn't want the brain. He was a greatanager whoever he managed.
Would you pay money to see him~ The Brain still burying the Red Rooster lol
He should of been WWE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION. AT ONE POINT IN HIS RUN THERE. DDMN SHAME.
HIS HEEL HEAT WAS GREAT.
It was kinda disappointing to hear that Bobby and Rude didn’t really like each other.. I thought they were a great combo together
With no managers you get characters like Rhea Ripley who gets annoying fast because the men she screws with can't do anything about it.
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Heenan with anyone was great.my fave was jimmy hart, brett & anvil.or hart & honky.just me.memphis style