Time stamps Segment featuring Morgan, Justin, and Morgxn: 2:45 Listener Write-ins Story 1: 5:40 Story 2: 15:08 Reddit Stories Story 1: 21:02 Story 2: 34:58 Story 3: 45:04 Story 4: 53:52 Segment featuring Morgan, Alejandra, and Obediah: 1:08:20 Story 1: 1:09:27 Story 2: 1:15:55 Story 3: 1:25:38 Story 4: 1:39:08 Story 5: 1:49:13 Story 6: 2:07:41
My youngest daughter outed my older daughter. However, it was at the request of my oldest. She was scared to tell me because she thought I wouldn’t accept her. It broke my heart that she would feel that way. I hugged her and told her I’ll always accepted her and love her for who she is. She cried in my arms for about an hour. I’m not religious but my husband’s family is. She is scared to let anyone else know besides our immediate family. I know they will make inappropriate comments or making jokes about. I’ve had explained to my daughter she doesn’t have to tell anyone she doesn’t want to and I will always be by her side fighting for her and will easy drop those who don’t accept her for who she is. I’m hoping it has eased her mind but it still hurts knowing she is in pain and just wants to be accepted.
My sister is my best friend. We're one year apart and shared the same room for the entirety of our childhood. Two years ago, were now full grown adults and she mustered up the courage to finally come out as bi. She was nervous AF! I was the first person she decided to tell and when she told me I was like ok cool. She was like "Wait why are you so cool about this? I was terrified." I gave her a blank stare and was like "Girl I'm your best friend. I already knew! Proud of you for telling me though." And she was elated then we changed the subject and started talking about normal random things. A week later she calls me and starts ranting about how she told the whole fam and every single one of us had a similar reaction. She was flabbergasted that she'd spent so long hiding it from everyone. I was like " Biatch you got pics of josh Hutcherson and Zendaya hanging all over your room with hearts drawn around them. What were you hiding?!! Plus, we were never a very closed minded family. At the end of the day you're still you, that's all that matters and I love you." She was relieved and I can honestly say, I am very happy she's no longer in the closet and that the whole fam was on board I can only imagine how hard it is to fear rejection from those you love the most.
Any parent would be soo pissed if their kid walked in saying "hey mom I've been in a relationship for 3 years and hid it from you. And btw we live together and we're married. " lol. Even a straight girl or guy. Period they'd be even more furious. They're probably not freaking out at him BECAUSE he's gay too.
‘You can be really into sex but also really monogamous’ thank you I wish more people could wrap their heads around that. I’ve been called so many things bc of partners refusal to accept this
As a bigger girl, I have smaller friends who have complained about their bodies, being fat, flabby etc. I haven't always been happy in my body (positive affirmations do help,!) But when I hear my smaller friends complain it actually makes me feel like wow, we all hate our bodies. I find it relatable. When I was more uncomfortable in my body, I used to think wow what do they think of me?!? If they are fat I'm the fattest fat fat ever. But that came from a place of insecurity and self centered thinking. They aren't thinking about my body! They are insecure - HUMAN- just like me. We all have something to hate, I feel normal!!! Not insulted. Xo hope this take helps anyone.
To a certain extent I completely agree with you and as someone who used to be extremely thin (like size 0-2) and was at my largest at a size 28, and now float somewhere between size 16-22, this take isn’t ALL right. When objectively thin women fat shame themselves, they are to a certain extent thinking to themselves the worst thing in the world to them would be to look like me as an actually fat person.
I wanna hug you after reading this. :c I used to be pretty overweight (over 200 lbs at 5’3). For my body, it was unhealthy. Now I’m teetering on being underweight thanks to an autoimmune disease and I’m what’s considered “skinny fat.” I’ve lost a lot of strength and balance, but with meds it’s a bit better. Now that I’ve seen both sides of the weight spectrum, it’s opened my mind a lot on how society makes us hate our bodies regardless of what they look like. It’s important to remember that this impacts all of us and it doesn’t revolve around us as one person, but as a collective.
In my childhood, when talking about the future, my mom always said: 'You and your future husband..or wife.' Made coming out as bisexual really really easy
As a member of the lgbtq+ community, I’m really glad that you included morgxn’s point of view for this episode. I think they offer a unique perspective on this topic, and I’m glad you gave them the space to share their experience that so many of us can relate to too.
Reddit story 4 is so heartbreaking 😢 Telling a child that you are gay is not indoctrinating them, it is telling them your truth and teaching them about inclusiveness & unconditional love and bringing our world one step closer to being more accepting. She wasn’t pushing the child to be gay, she was simply telling him a fact.
I hope that in the future schools will have picture books for students featuring LGBTQ characters, and platforms like Disney will have more LGBTQ characters, as well. Small things like that could make a world of difference in terms of acceptance
Exactly that was just her being like “ I’m a lesbian, this is what lesbian is” and it’s normal. Simple if you wanna Yknow not make your child closed minded you have to let them meet other new people who are diffrent
If numbers of LGBTQ+ identifying people go up it’s because they finally feel safe and not that it is “contagious” or something. Who would even know to come out if it isn’t an option?
Good people do not SHUT OUT their grandkids weddings just cause it’s two of the same gender Good people SUPPORT OTHERS. Good people do not say their grandkids marriage is FAKE.
I loved Morgxn saying they can’t put aside the homophobia the way heterosexual people can. I’ve never thought about it like that, and I don’t think I’ll ever see it the same way again
@@NameName-yj7lp why are you using same-sex as the basis of your argument. If the whole LGBTQIAPD movement was just GLGLGLGL there would be order. The existence of more fluid and changing sexualities destroys the respectability of same-sex sexualities relationships. The LGBTQIADP movement is eating itself.
So, if a guy makes very little but always gives to help people in need regardless of their lifestyle, spends his time taking care of his elderly relatives, counsels any of his friends who call him needing a shoulder, even the lgbt ones, doesn't lie, cheat, steal, or purposely hurt anyone, but he disagrees with a couple of points propagated by the lgbt community, such as being gay being a choice or it being okay to not provide services for a gay wedding, he's a homofobe and thus a bad person? Okay, cool. Just don't expect people to take you seriously. You aren't changing anybody with that belief. Disagreeing with something is not murder, so the example used by Morgan and Morgxn doesn't make sense even though they really think it's a real gotcha move.What if a guy does all of the things listed above, helping others, caring for his elderly family, being a friend, etc, but he's gay, and one person doesn't want to accept him? I know how you'd feel about that, but what would you say? I think I know. Wouldn't you say, "That isn't fair. You can't reject a person based on just that one thing. He isn't hurting anyone, he just doesn't think the same way you do." I would actually agree with you in that instance, but you only seem to believe that a little bad outways a lot of good when someone disagrees with part of your narrative. The exact opposite is true when the one bit of bad is something you don't even think of as bad. Suddenly, we should look at the whole person. Funny how that works.
My mum was brushing my hair one day and asked me "are you gay?" I said no. She said "okay.... Are you bi?" I said yeah. It has never been mentioned again and my bisexuality is normal
Fat shaming and skinny shaming are both bad but I think the belief that fat shaming is worse comes from the fact that most skinny shaming happens on a person to person basis whereas fat shaming happens on a larger scale. The media shamed fat people. When overweight people go to the doctors for something unrelated to weight, they’re stigmatized and often not diagnosed correctly. The fashion industry is built for skinny people for the most part. So fat shaming feels more universal vs a person to person issue. Both are awful though
As someone with the vast majority of the family belonging in the medical industry-- there is no "fat stigma" more often than not almost every single disease that an overweight person comes to a doctor with is more so weight related than any other statistical measure. A doctor telling you to lose weight to treat your hormonal imbalances is not a "misdiagnosis" or "a health concern completely unrelated to weight". Just as someone who is underweight presenting with insomnia caused by vitamin deficiencies will be told to gain some weight and eat a balanced diet for example. People think that a diagnosis is a one to one correlation, but fail to understand that the reason why doctors spend an additional 8-12 years in med school is to understand the vast schema of interconnected causes of diseases-- many of which are exacerbated and concealed by weight problems.
Fatshaming is worse than “skinny shaming” because fatphobia affects fat AND thin people. No matter how thin someone is they DO NOT want to be FAT. They want to “put on weight” “wish they weren’t so thin” but they do not want to be FAT. Thats why fatphobia is such a huge issue, it affects everyone because fat across all bodies is rejected and stigmatized.
I love love when Morgxn was saying what if we don't have to come out? That's how I'm trying to be with my kids. They just are, they can just be. Their sexuality isn't the end all be all. They are who they are, they're beautiful and valid. I'm so glad more people are raising children this way I know I'm not the only one.
I really feel for the guy that has the homophobic grandparents. My entire family is Republican, so any time we talk about politics, it ends with me either crying in frustration or having a panic attack. Those talks have been banned recently, for obvious reasons. I have said my opinions, they have said theirs, and nothing would change that. If I cut off my family, I would be cutting out my biggest supporters and my best friends(siblings.) It sucks knowing that your family doesn’t hold your same values, especially when they treat you really well aside from that. It’s easy to say you would cut them out when they are just your grandparents, but cutting out people that help and love you through every day issues makes things a lot harder than you’d think. Also, I am a bisexual woman, if that puts anything in perspective.
Exactly. It’s hypocritical asf to cut people out of your life for not agreeing with your beliefs/views, but then to think they’re sooo wrong for doing the same exact thing only with THEIR beliefs. I can’t stand the double standards.
Yeah. He was definitely NOT the asshole. Grandparents are usually very important in close families. In some cultures, elders are the most important family. This expectation of excluding them is both unrealistic and ignorant. It is one day, and weddings are more important to older relatives. The cousins only care to make an example of the Grandparents.. they don't actually care about the wedding. And I'm sure Grandparents will be at Xmas and Thanksgiving, so why exclude them for one day? This whole episode was biased. It's truly unfortunate, because I'm a very vocal supporter of the lgtbqia+ community. But I would never require anyone to exclude their less educated family. Besides, most families have someone who is ignorant about something. It may not be this, but there's always something. 🤷♀️
^^this is the nuance they totally missed. I love the gang but I have to say this felt a little bit virtue signal-y. Especially when they skated over the cousin, Jane, and her beliefs on immigration. And then describing their own homophobic grandparent that they have not cut out. It’s just a lot of hypocrisy imo.
@@ejcannon5897EXACTLY. Now, I have cut off my own conservative family members, but that was my choice. I also thought OP was TA based on what I have done in my own life. However, listening to Morgan rattle on about how her grandma doesn’t recognize her son’s husband made me want someone to ask Morgan exactly what she has done to support her uncle. She brought this grandma a car, right? The hypocrisy was startling to hear.
RE: the “rotisserie chicken” story. as someone who deals with an ed, i’d toss the whole man. i cant imagine and all i think about is the possible ed spiral this poor woman might go through. i really hope he goes to therapy at the LEAST because literally what the fuck????
As a female Christian whenever the time comes for me to have kids I plan on teaching about all types of relationships so they can learn who they are. I love this episode 😌
My sister outed me (on purpose) about a week ago and yesterday my step mother literally tried to tell me I don’t like women just because I find a woman attractive 💀 Gurl I- no words😭‼️
First of all I love your pfp second of all your step mom is ignorant for thinking that way I’m so sorry your sister did that no one should be outed before they’re ready I hope all goes well with you 💛
1. Sister is awful I've had it happen twice 2. Step mom is also awful and hopefully she will get better but of she doesn't I'm sorry and 3. I'm sorry this has happened to you it's not fun to be outed I really hope you're okay :)
My mother used to tell me when I was a teen that I was allowed to bring home whoever or “whatever” I wanted. They could be any ethnicity as long as they weren’t a girl. Her biggest fear when I was going into college was that my roommate would be bisexual or pansexual (she heard a “horror” story from her bestie who’s daughter had a pansexual roommate with many sex partners). I’ve known that I am pansexual since I was about 16yrs and I’ll never tell my mom just because of these two instances. I’ll never feel comfortable enough to be honest with her about it.
i’m so sorry. i get it and it’s such a disheartening feeling. i hope you can find/have found your support group where you can be yourself unapologetically ❤
I can’t stand body shaming in general but ESPECIALLY not when it’s someone who is pregnant or just had a baby. Are you actually kidding? This person just brought a human life into the world and THAT is what you’re thinking about? BYE! 😭
Yeah, this one was the worst stories of all, imo. I hope she thought through that marriage of theirs, the guy seems to have no empathy at all. That relationship was only good until she gained the plus weight from her pregnancy. Like wtf... I hope she is ok now and gets support. Working and taking care of a baby/little child alone is really hard. :(
About the one where he hid his husband, I get it completely. My family isn’t homophobic, but my mother cried when I told her I was a lesbian. They could be accepting for everyone else but you, or they could just have a bad reaction because they future for you in your head can’t be true. I dont think he was the asshole here at all.
I think they got upset about him hiding and being dishonest towards them for 3 whole years, then marry in secret maybe he hurt/ insulted their feelings assuming they would be homofobic. But I get his point of view too, coming out must be very scary.
The girl who told her little cosine was definitely in the right and I’m honestly shocked so many people where not on her side because when i was young for the longest i didn’t know that it was “not normal” to be gay or apart of the lgbtq+ community because my mom talked about it so casually that she didn’t need to explain it to me and everytime she would talk about me being in a relationship she would say boyfriend or girlfriend she was very inclusive as a mother that i would always be so shocked when i met homophobic or racist people because i genuinely and honestly still don’t understand how people can think like that basically what I’m getting at it should be the norm to tell kids about these things
I rarely comment on UA-cam or social media, but this podcast hit me extremely hard. With that being said, in the last story shared, I'm usually the person that my thinner friends rant to about their sizes being too "big" (when they are x-small, small, or medium) whereas, I am the plus-sized friend. As a person who has struggled with so many insecurities, it sucks listening to my friends complain. Of course, I always told them they were good but in the back of my head I always wondered "What do they see me as?" I loved the way Morgan put it into perspective because I still experience that!!!! There have been times where I was vocal about it and the response I got was somewhat like "You? You're not fat! Look at me, the numbers do not lie." I then would calmly repeat the same response "The numbers do not lie." The numbers = weight on a scale. It stunned my friends and the topic would be changed. These are just some personal experiences I went through. Whoever reads this, I AM SO SORRY FOR THE PARAGRAPH AND YOU ARE HOT SO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Thank you so so much for your comment and sharing your perspective! The way you describe calling it out is something I go through a lot. It takes a toll on your self esteem even if not intended. That journey of self love and body peace can be a challenging one can’t it?! 🙈
I experienced something similar. I was in later high school years and mostly good still with my body image (some developing but not that bad) but talking with friends and it came up to what they considered plus size - double digit pant size. Both of them were pretty small, while I had a few sizes on them so I fit in their definition of plus sized at the time, more so now. I called it out and they said they didn't realize and tried to take it back telling me I didn't look like I weighted that much but it has stuck with me and I still feel the effects of that unintended body image message/attack. My best friend at the time had done the same over the years we were close. Thankfully it didn't affect me as much as the first time but probably didn't help either.
I don’t know about your friends, but with me, I deal with major body issues, many people have told me I am bordering on anorexia, and I always put pressure on myself to have a “flat stomach,” etc. etc. But I never put those views about my own body insecurities on other people, everyone else looks absolutely beautiful/handsome too me, their weight/height/etc. doesn’t matter to me at all. It’s literally just insecurities I place on myself and no one else, I am not very forgiving towards myself at all 😅 Also, YOU ARE HOT TOO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Oh, but the fact that they talk about it in front of you is so inconsiderate, they shouldn’t be doing that. Have you talked about how it makes you feel? They might not realize that they are indirectly hurting you. And if they do realize, you should find better friends because that is toxic.
I can definitely relate to some of these stories as a bisexual woman. I know that some of my family would not support my marriage had I decided to marry a woman, so now that I happen to be marrying a man i feel weird about inviting them to the wedding, knowing that if I had happened to fall in love with a woman they would not have wanted to come.
The 1st story really hit me hard. A close family member said a similar thing to me, assuming that me being bisexual would make me cheat on my fiancé. They asked me “why would he be marrying you if you were really bisexual?”, implying that I couldn’t be trusted. Just because I can love both genders does not make me any less capable of being loyal to and choosing 1 person for the rest of my life. Just like straight people, we can be in committed relationships, it is no different.
Another hurtful thing I faced when coming out was people questioning if I was really bisexual because I was in a relationship with a man. Like do they not realize that being bisexual means I also like men!?!? If anyone else has faced similar struggles know that I support you and wish you all the best ❤️ Thanks THT for addressing these topics!!!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I’m sorry you dealt with such dense people and they couldn’t get past their own bigoted, uneducated, stereotypical ways.
Stop stressing about "could have/ might have", what ifs and buts. Try to enjoy your real life versus an imaginary/ hypothetical one and have a great wedding and a wonderful life!!! 😀
In regards to the guy who came out to his family and announced his marriage, my takeaway is that the mother was upset he lied about being in a relationship and feels betrayed. My advice is just give it time, talk to your mother when she's cooled down a little bit and just give it time. If she loves you she'll come around.
That first Reddit post: as a lesbian, absolutely NOT the asshole, if anything those cousins are being unreasonable demanding. Someone ELSE’s wedding is not the place to make a statement like that. Who makes demands about someone else’s guest list?????
That's what I thought too. I'm a gay person myself and I see nothing wrong with what OP decided to do. Its his wedding anyways. Also, the grandparents has archaic mindset, its unlikely they'll change or learn their lesson if OP did restrict them from attending his wedding.
If they wanted to be supportive while still inviting the grandparents, I think they could do something that included the cousins, or was pride supporting. Idk what exactly. Get a special rainbow mini-cake maybe, or have a speach where they talk about their cousins beautiful marriage and hoe they want nothing more than to be like them. Something that sends the message without costing them people that they love.
When this story first posted I got into it with people on Reddit, cause I felt the same as you. Inviting the grandparents to your own wedding is not a betrayal, nor guilt by association. Also, there was additional info that the grandparents had paid the down payment on a house for one of the cousins and their spouse. So their family is fine accepting the grandparents’ money, and the grandparents themselves still show love and support for their grandchild, just not for the marriage since they view it through a traditional/religious lense. Make no mistake, those beliefs are backwards and have no place in our modern world, but this story is not so cut and dry like some make it seem. Signed, your friendly neighborhood bisexual
I can say Pride does include all the groups Obidiah mentioned. I am proud ally to the LGBTQIA+ community. My first pride experience was at the 50th anniversary of Stonewall. I will never FORGET seeing so many older ppl/couples celebrating and living their truths. Seeing them and realizing they could not do this when they were younger. It still makes me so emotional to remember that day. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
"As long as you're happy, I'm happy." Yeah, I got that from my mom when I was in an LD relationship with my first girlfriend. 2 weeks after our 6 months relationship ended, my mom told me to get over it because it wasn't a real relationship since it was LD & gay. I've never talked about my relationships with girls since and she thinks it was a "phase".
I really appreciated Morgxn’s words of encouragement for young people struggling with being bi/straight/gay. my heart goes out to people that basically live a lie, because they’re afraid their friends/family/church wouldn’t accept them. everyone has the right to love who they want, and we should celebrate love; no matter who it’s with.
When you are talking about the girls, one being an extra small and the friends being XXL. I can see both sides. Growing up one of my best friends struggled with anorexia, she would make comments about how big her legs and arms were and how she hated them. I have always struggled with eating and my weight. I have never been and XXL but I have been a large a couple times through out my life. I have also been a small or medium. When my friend would say things about her body I would say "you are so small, this is big" then point at parts on my body I didn't like. I never disliked her or was upset that she was saying these things. I understood that she didn't see her body the way the rest of the world did. I also understand where the girl is coming from when she talks about not seeing her body as small after losing the weight. Sometimes when I look in the mirror I still see myself when I was 30-40lbs heavier, and other times I see myself how I am now. All this body stuff plays with your brain and if you don't change your mindset nothing will change.
I feel like Morgan couldn’t really talk when it came down to the family isn’t homophobic so they had no reason to not come out, the process of coming out is the most scary sad and terrifying thing you can do, it doesn’t even matter if the person most likely will accept you. It’s all the thoughts and doubts that they don’t. Imagining over and over again the family you love may not love you back can be crippling and the worst thing.
Coming from someone who’s apart of the community, I don’t think making other people’s wedding guest list about myself is appropriate. Like it’s just not the crucial. It sounds like it’s their religious belief that marriage is between a woman and a man, so who cares? We can mutually disagree without dragging other people into it. It’s problematic to expect others to be social justice warriors for their own wedding.
Those first two stories hit hard as a bisexual I've had people ask me if I was just trying to cover up for being lesbian because I prefer women just a little more then men
I really resonate with the issues bisexual people face. I, myself, am pansexual, and it's so frustrating when other members of the LGBTQ+ community try to invalidate people who're interested in more than one gender. We're not straight if we end up in a heterosexual relationship and we're not gay if we end up in a homosexual relationship. We are the sexuality we identify as.
I’m not a podcast person because I love to see the faces of the people talking so I love that you put your full lenght videos on here💕 I enjoy this so much! Keep it up💗
I’ve been trying to change my language, so like when I’m getting ready especially on bad body days, I’ll ask ‘does this outfit work?’ ‘Does the look suit me?’ Or even ‘any suggestions to add to this?’ Cuz I’m not saying there’s a problem with my body, cuz there isn’t even though it is something I struggle with after gaining 3 stone, just the clothes or fit might work better altered 💛
I love what morgxn said! Queer love is love! This was a very eye opening episode. I realized something I didn’t think was homophobic actually was. I love your podcast!
Can confirm, I was fat shame in High school, as a result I've struggled with SO many eating disorders. I hardly ate for near enough a year and ended up under weight. Then was shamed for being too skinny.
i found this podcast and decided to listen to it and it made me think of the other day my dad commented on my body saying i looked anorexic. he literally stopped me and asked "hey you look rly skinny. u aren't anorexic, are u?" and i have actually have been dealing with a binge eating and purging thing due to bad body issues and hearing my dad say that broke my heart and made me so self conscious. i did tell him not to make those comments and he just said "its not my fault u feel like that. i cant control ur feelings im just saying you look anorexic" and still to this day he says it and no matter what i tell him he still does it. listening to this episode made me feel a lot better about myself in a way. so thanks. (English isn't my first language sorry if i made spelling or grammar mistakes)
Hard to admit it, but I grew up with a lot of biases being in a rural, sheltered community. Podcasts like this really helped me to see that I didn’t like the way I was thinking and actively work on being an ally and inclusive. Education is really important and changes lives. Good luck out there everybody! 💖
Coming from a fat woman...the person who keeps calling herself fat in front of larger friends, is the asshole. Even if I'm working on "reclaiming" fat when I comes to my body, and saying "I'm a bad-ass fat bitch", hearing someone so much smaller call themselves fat and disgusting really shows me how they feel about me. It shows me that they are skin deep, and their compliments won't hold weight with me anymore.
This really helped me. Both on my sexuality and my body. Lately my body dysmorphia has been really toxic. This has made me realize that I’m beautiful. Thank you.
I think alot of heterosexual conformist like diet acceptance also I think that Morgan and alejandera are both kind of "standard sizes* and this is what also helps form their point of views however I genuinely think that they are so accepting,loving and caring about others and aren't judgemental just watching them on youtube
The guy who got married and didnt tell his family did say his reason and that it was because the topic of lgbtq+ never came up so he was scared to see their reaction
at 18:54 does he mean they are learning pronouns in context of gender identity? Because pronouns have always been taught in school as parts of speech and grammar? Thats not a new thing for children to learn, I did in elementary school 15 years ago? The rhetoric that kids are suddenly being taught pronouns for the first is put out by the right to insight transphobia in misinformed people
I'm pretty sure he meant kids are being taught neo pronouns as well as the traditional she/her, he/him in school. So ze/zir, they/them (as a consistent singular pronoun), etc
it’s interesting to me tbh how families can differ on what they do consider unacceptable. my family is NOT accepting... but they were fine with it when I was out as bisexual, the minute i realized i was actually a lesbian they were NOT OK with it. Hell the word is literally banned from being uttered in my house. It’s interesting to hear people with the opposite experience.
As a pansexual woman it’s honestly the most irritating thing getting those comments like “oh but your dating a guy” or “you don’t look gay” and the bs about bi an pan people being cheaters has always drove me mad I’ve been cheated on by men women some in between and I have never cheated
honestly i can’t blame the guy who hid his relationship for three years. my grandma isn’t necessarily homophobic but for the past FOUR fucking years she has said she won’t believe it until i am in a committed marriage for a few years. every day i wish i never told them and i just kept my life away from them.
When they were all talking about the guy who got secretly married to his husband, and they said that they didn't _need_ to come out to not be in the closet, my first thought was about how I "came out" as lesbian. I was brushing my hair and my family had been silent for around 10 mins, this was when I was 13, and my mum just walked in, said "You know you're gay, right?" And I said "yeah", her only reaction was "Okay I'm glad that you know so you don't need to tell us" then went back to whatever she was doing. I didn't come out, but i never attempted to hide it. Actually i don't think anyone ever assumed i was straight to begin with-
Im so happy you guys talked abt this. I’m prolly gonna take this comment down soon bc I haven’t told anyone that I’m not straight and I don’t wanna risk ppl seeing it. But I just wanted you guys to know that this is so true, and also in a long time I’ve thought I was bi but ion know what I am so I love your idea of just being, instead of having to come out to ppl
It completely doesn’t make sense. Legally they are their spouse. Do they not think marriages observed by any religion are valid? Do they check the domination/religion/or observance of everyone they meet? Do they mock their LGBTQIA coworkers or do the only belittle those that are related.
I immediately looked up and listened to the song. INCREDIBLE! Y'all did such an amazing job. From the lyrics to the vocals ❤❤. Morgan with an "A" I am obsessed with your podcast, I've listened to all of them in about a week. They have made me look at relationships differently in a good way and knowing my worth. I look forward to all your uploads ❤❤❤
As the parent of a non-binary, pan, poly young teen, I am so happy to see all the acceptance available to them in this new generation. My kid didn't 'come out' as poly or pan, they just were. They did feel the need to 'come out' as trans and it seemed harder for them to say it than it was for us to accept it. And their friends didn't miss a beat.
For the first reddit story I understand it's focused on the grandparents homophobia but we completely glossed over "Jane" and her wife having issues with immigrants and the grandparents are immigrants. It sounds like there is animosity flowing both ways in that relationship and both "Jane" and the grandparents suck. It's the writer's personal choice but they would be supporting the homophobic views by inviting the grandparents to the wedding but also are there any other immigrants or mixed people in the family because maybe Jane and her wife shouldn't be invited either.
I disagree with some of what y’all are saying and I’ve been bi for some part of my life. Grandparents lived in a different generation. You can shame them and hate them but they aren’t always going to change, the best way to help someone grow is show compassion and be kind. A lot of gays act rude and pushy, that’s how I used to be and it only pushes people further. The more love and kindness you show the softer their hearts will be
The body shaming part really hits for me. I've been made fun of nearly my entire life for being larger than what others deemed acceptable. Cut to me becoming an adult and getting a job at a plus sized clothing store, I lost a fair amount of weight in my early to mid twenties because of a chronic illness and medication but I was still technically plus sized. I then got comments from customers saying skinny people shouldn't be allowed to work at the store because they didn't get what it was like to be bigger (mind you I was in the 180s to low 200s but because of my height, I carry the weight well). I understand for some of the customers they lash out about those things because of how they feel about themselves, but I still wish I could've recounted all of the things that have been said to me in my life about my weight. Unfortunately the store is the kind of store that one complaint on me could've gotten me fired. Since middle school, I have never been smaller than a size twelve. Before the pandemic and another med change, I had consistently weighed between 175lbs and 200lbs at 6' tall. I have for the most part recovered from the trauma of growing up on the heavier side, but it's completely absurd that people feel it's necessary to comment on other people's bodies especially for those of us who can't always control what our bodies do as far as weigh gain or loss goes.
Thats because the beauty standards have been built around skinny people for decades. Fashion and clothing is tailored to skinny people. Clothes that are made for your bodies don't look good on plus sized bodies, yet plus sized clothes are still tailored to your shape just with extra fabric. Medication dosages are made for you, because they don't allow obese people to participate in most medical trials. Airplanes, trains, cars, movie theaters, everything is tailored to your body. Plus sized people grow up with rude comments and straight up bullying inside and outside the home for their weight, are often put on diets as children and develope eating disorders because of it. This is why fat shaming is such a big deal. Because plus sized people are told that they aren't worthy of love or good medical care unless they are skinny. Sure, skinny people can have body issues, but don't act like they are the same thing when I've dealt with both, and there is no comparing them.
@@chloerene7858 listen people skinny shaming me perpetuated disordered eating for me. Also small people have trouble finding clothes that fit as well. I constantly struggle finding clothing that properly fits. In no way was I discrediting fat shaming but fat shaming is talked about much much more than skinny shaming I’m sorry for your experiences in both regards but I wasn’t discrediting either in any way.
@@chloerene7858 I do believe that fat shaming is a lot more widespread than skinny shaming, but when either happen, it is equally as bad. No one has a right to shame a person for their body and any sort of body shaming causes extreme issues for the person being shamed. When I was a child, I was bullied by my peers and my family, them saying that I am a stick, twig, etc. This caused me to have extreme issues with eating a lot of food, which is kind of counter-intuitive I know, and now I am bordering on anorexia. When I was in my early teens, I was so weak that I broke two bones in my arm when I feel on a bike. When you are extremely thin, medicines can be too potent for you because medicines are made for people of average weight. Many skinny people don’t have access to fitting clothes because the only ones available in many places are S, M, and L sizes. Different people have different experiences, you don’t get to dictate based on your own experience if fat shaming or skinny shaming is worse. Which is worse shouldn’t even matter, both are terrible.
May I join the Pisces chain, I'm the third. 🙋♀️ First story: it was my mum for me too. I came out as bisexual to my mum and she didn't believe me. Straight up just said 'no'. Luckily I have a very supportive dad who grew up tough but open community, and just wants his kids to be safe, healthy and happy. I also came out to my grandparents (dads side) when i was 19 and they were also super supportive. Didn't make a big deal, just accepted me and moved on kinda how you should. And my mum was left in an awkward position. 😊
Thank you for bringing up the discrimination and criticism that bisexual people receive from the LGBTQ+ community and straight people. Biphobia comes in many forms unfortunately. I’m a bi woman who has experienced the fetishization of bisexuality by straight people and couples. I just want to be who I am and love who I love. 🌈
27:56 The absolute beauty of a person who wrote this comment made me fall in love. That response to the first story was so beautiful and well-articulated that it could only have come from a very wise soul who has unfortunately seen and experienced a lot of hardship for themselves. Brava, kind, anonymous redditor-- brava!
I personally hate labels. I'd prefer to just be. If i did label myself I'd be bisexual, poly, and possibly asexual towards my relationships with women. I'm happily married to a man and we have 5 kids, but this doesn't make me any less of who i am. My husband has always known who i am, and if i wanted to date a woman i can at any time. That does not mean that we have 3 somes. My relationships with both would be separate. Love is valid! People should be allowed to just be.... be who you are, no matter who or what that is. ❤
As a full figured woman… i think the story about the girl who’s fiancé fat shames people and her is super common. Men lowkey love the thickness but publicly they will do anything to maintain a reputation, esp for their boys… 🙄
Highly disagree with the grandparents take. According to the post they don't say anything in regards to their thoughts on this topic unless asked, they're not going to show up and make snide comments or be rude, and they also do seem to be supportive towards these cousins in other ways despite their thoughts on the marriages. If what OP says is true then he's literally being expected to ban his own grandparents from the wedding based on their THOUGHTS. Not some awful thing they've done or said but simply their thoughts. Nah. Two old people calling your spouse a 'girlfriend'/'boyfriend' is not the threat to anyones rights ya'll think it is. We've lost all sanity when we start treating grandparents who are a little behind the times the same way we'd treat a member of the WBC, or comparing them to murderers as you all did like c'mon.
Morgan’s uncles story .. about his 1st partner is why every person needs to be able to marry anyone they love and want to marry .. many people have a dying wish to marry so the person they marry can be their next of kin and others dream of marrying since young ages. Why are we still living by old white straight privileged men from 200 years ago . Be the change you want to see ,
I had an aunt who’s homophobic and she seemed very nice until I got a little older and realized how bad homophobia was. I also realized a lot of other red flags about her. Nothing dangerous or anything but she just did good things but didn’t have too good intentions
Am I the only one who think the secret twitter guy just found an excuse to send his wife to his twitter so his wife could “stumble upon” his comments about women being overweight?
Loved this episode. I have struggled so much with body image, but throughout my journey to self love and the single life (so as to not seek male validation) I'm discovering new things about myself and try to focus on specific goals (fitness related, like getting strong arms and carry my on weight-oh, what a dream-) and i always try to remember that, no matter what, my relationship to myself comes first, 'cause I'll be my longtime companion. And also, life's too short to not enjoy yourself, in anyway you can, so as long as your happy and healthy, nothing else will really matter. Be that bitch, cause haters and trolls will always exist.
The conversation at the end about practicing gratitude about your appearance hit me HARD. Alejandra talking about how her legs take her on 5 mile runs and that her arms lift and type and provide touched me. I have always had body issues. Ever since I had my son a year ago, I’ve gained weight and gotten a skin condition. I’ve always hated how I looked and the extra skin from pregnancy and weight gain after quitting chest feeding have made it worse. But with hearing her say those things, it made me realize what my body is capable of. My body grew a human and sustained that human for 10 months through human milk. My body helps people every day during their own labor processes and helps them bring their babies into the world. Alejandra, I thank you so much for saying that. ❤️
I sent this to Alejandra and she shed some tears. She really appreciates what you wrote! Thank you so much for writing this and sharing your experience. Being able to create another human is such an insanely magical thing. I’m glad what Ale said helped you realize this and find some peace/sense of accomplishment/gratitude with your beautiful self ❤️
i absolutely agree with the family’s reactions - yes, it is your choice when to come out. but holy f*ck, you lied to them for three years! i’d be pissed too. doesn’t matter at all that you’re gay, it’s that you hid your entire relationship from them and sprung it on them with zero warning. congratulations, but i completely understand their reactions
@@Stuck_in_a_cemetery it really depends on trust. That was something that broke the family's trust. Once trust is broken its almost impossible to build it to what it once was
When people ask how I define myself and sexuality I always say queer. I’m fine with whatever, I don’t have or want a label. I’m happy with being me and I don’t know what future me wants or will find out.
i have so much i could say about the girl that was recovering from an ED and then her boyfriend/husband was making comments, ive been there before but it wasnt my husband that made the comments but my mom constantly made them when i would eat something she would comment "how can you eat so much and stay so damn skinny?" i hid my ED for 25 years until my son found out about it and he then told my husband what was going on. A few nights after my son told my husband about it, we were at the dinner table and my mom made a comment and my 14 yr old son exploded and yelled at her at that she needed to shut the hell up and see i was sick and how could he notice what i was doing and the pattern of my behavior but neither my mom or husband had never noticed it. my son was livid and my mom played dumb so again my son was like she forces herself to get sick after every damn meal because of the fact that you and everyone else in the fucked up family that you all come from made fun of her from such a young age its caused this, and its not new, ive known about it for years but felt i had no place to say something until i confronted her about a week ago because i knew i was going to lose my mom if i didnt finally say something and take some type of action to help her since none of you seem to want to do anything but make dumb comments. i can also speak on the army forcing the issue of couples counseling and even singles counseling just recently, as I have been married to a soldier for the past 19 years. The couples counseling has been something they have been pushing since the war in the middle east broke out back in 2001 because the divorce rate was so high, but then they started realizing that alot of the male soldiers were marrying to get the extra money but most of them married stripers who took them for everything they had while they were deployed. As for the singles counseling they love to send them to the VA which is a clusterfuck in and of itself, my husband's first therapist actually told him he needed to divorce me because i was to involved in his business and medical care, which pissed my husband off because i had called her to tell her he had an allergic reaction to ambien and then 2 days later tried to commit suicide and would have done it had i not walked in on him and talked him out of it. I reported the therapist to her supervisor but nothing was done as its been 10 years and she still works there, still counseling guys to divorce their wives. Its absolutely crazy! After her my husband then went through 8 different therapists in the next 2.5 years because none of them stayed long because the environment was toxic. He was also switched to 54 different psych meds in 3 years. I finally had enough because things were getting super bad and i was worried one of our sons was going to find him dead one day when coming in from school. I found him am awesome therapist in 2015 and he is back as close to the man i married that he ever will be. The only thing that still breaks me is none of our kids will ever know what an incredibly funny. fun loving and out going person he was before being sent to war, but at least they still have their dad and thats more than what alot of kids have
Fun fact I learned on TikTok the other day: under different spectrums of light, humans actually have tiger stripes! These are the same spectrums that cats see, so when our cats look at us they see us with tiger, or zebra stripes!
Can someone kindly explain how "the side that toxic masculinity suppresses-- your feminine energy" isn't in and of itself a form of toxic masculinity perpetuating gendered language and stereotyping?? It just is, point-blank. I can't even begin to describe how non-binary people feel about this construct that people are trying to perpetuate as being the antithesis of toxic-masculinity when they themselves are just digging that hole deeper and making it worse by saying "the feminine energy-- the caring, the shrouded, the hidden mystique of male personality that they only show to you when you're alone together." as if it's not the most toxic shit on the planet. If you're going to critique "locker room talk" you can't then put an emasculating title on the opposite expression of emotion and feeling as if it's a "womanly adventure" or a "feminine energy". For the love of God, men are just as capable of feeling these types of emotions as women there's no such thing as "feminine energy" if you believe that toxic masculinity shouldn't exist because perpetuating these boundaries on what makes a man or what makes a woman is just going to engrain these stereotypes deeper.
As a long time listener, I didn't like the new co-host. Too preachy. I'm in the LGBT community, as are 95% of my friends, and I just didn't like the other Morgxn.
I love this podcast and typically agree with most takes however I feel like Morgan is being a cherry picker around the 33:00 Mark. She speaks about how messed up it is that the grandparents only refer to the couple as Boyfriends instead of Husbands but you just spoke to your grandmother doing the same thing. Then justified it by saying "I think she would go to my uncles wedding if he got married" But she can't even refer to his belated lover as that? He was just a "friend" Can you imagine the pain that makes her uncle feel? The amount of love he had for that man to hear people call him just "a Friend"
One thing I have noticed when it comes to body positivity and shaming is no one ever talks about face shaming. Is looked at as a joke. Oh that person is a butter face haha. My teeth need fixing, it’s genetic and because of different circumstances I never completed treatment. I also have a slight deformity on the tip of my nose That was never looked at and it’s gonna cost about $4000 to get it fixed The amount of people that come up to me and ask what’s wrong with me and tell me I’m ugly is astounding. I was cornered and a train once asked me why my nose look like that and bullying me. So I guess it was frustrating sometimes. Again Yes, I am 0/2 With a slightly hourglass figure. And I love my body but I can’t cover my face up with anything. So having to wear a mask all the time does help.
I'm probably in the minority in this, but as for the groom asking if he's honophobic for inviting his grandparents...no he's not. The best answer is for him to voice his opinions that he does not condone their opinions, but honestly the cousins have no say who the Bride & Groom invites to THEIR wedding. If his grandparents decides not to go because of what he said, that's on them. Idk, I just feel no one has a say who the Bride & Groom invites to their wedding. Edit: I'm a lesbian that has homophobes in my family and my sister invited them all because it was her wedding and she wanted family there. I never felt some way because it's not MY wedding
Little brother (16) senior in high school broke up with his long term gf a couple months ago then recently told us all he was dating his friend Greg, i was ECSTATIC bc me and my other brother are bisexual as well. I wanted to talk to him about safe sex and relationship habits but didn’t want to get weird or stress him out after just coming out to us. Im going to get him these books im so glad I saw this ❤️
I was wondering if they were planning on homeschooling somewhere in the country. You literally can't take your child anywhere where they won't be exposed to people.
Time stamps
Segment featuring Morgan, Justin, and Morgxn: 2:45
Listener Write-ins
Story 1: 5:40
Story 2: 15:08
Reddit Stories
Story 1: 21:02
Story 2: 34:58
Story 3: 45:04
Story 4: 53:52
Segment featuring Morgan, Alejandra, and Obediah: 1:08:20
Story 1: 1:09:27
Story 2: 1:15:55
Story 3: 1:25:38
Story 4: 1:39:08
Story 5: 1:49:13
Story 6: 2:07:41
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I remember telling my mom as she was folding laundry one day, “I think I like boys and girls,” and she said “me too”. That was that 😂
Me as a mother. 🤭🤣 love that for you!
My youngest daughter outed my older daughter. However, it was at the request of my oldest. She was scared to tell me because she thought I wouldn’t accept her. It broke my heart that she would feel that way. I hugged her and told her I’ll always accepted her and love her for who she is. She cried in my arms for about an hour. I’m not religious but my husband’s family is. She is scared to let anyone else know besides our immediate family. I know they will make inappropriate comments or making jokes about. I’ve had explained to my daughter she doesn’t have to tell anyone she doesn’t want to and I will always be by her side fighting for her and will easy drop those who don’t accept her for who she is. I’m hoping it has eased her mind but it still hurts knowing she is in pain and just wants to be accepted.
"If you chase the standard of beauty, you will be chasing your whole life" do you ever hear such a simple life-changing sentence 😘
I really enjoy listening to these videos while I’m at work 😊 please continue the videos 💕💕
My sister is my best friend. We're one year apart and shared the same room for the entirety of our childhood. Two years ago, were now full grown adults and she mustered up the courage to finally come out as bi. She was nervous AF! I was the first person she decided to tell and when she told me I was like ok cool. She was like "Wait why are you so cool about this? I was terrified." I gave her a blank stare and was like "Girl I'm your best friend. I already knew! Proud of you for telling me though." And she was elated then we changed the subject and started talking about normal random things. A week later she calls me and starts ranting about how she told the whole fam and every single one of us had a similar reaction. She was flabbergasted that she'd spent so long hiding it from everyone. I was like " Biatch you got pics of josh Hutcherson and Zendaya hanging all over your room with hearts drawn around them. What were you hiding?!! Plus, we were never a very closed minded family. At the end of the day you're still you, that's all that matters and I love you." She was relieved and I can honestly say, I am very happy she's no longer in the closet and that the whole fam was on board I can only imagine how hard it is to fear rejection from those you love the most.
Any parent would be soo pissed if their kid walked in saying "hey mom I've been in a relationship for 3 years and hid it from you. And btw we live together and we're married. " lol. Even a straight girl or guy. Period they'd be even more furious. They're probably not freaking out at him BECAUSE he's gay too.
‘You can be really into sex but also really monogamous’ thank you I wish more people could wrap their heads around that. I’ve been called so many things bc of partners refusal to accept this
As a bigger girl, I have smaller friends who have complained about their bodies, being fat, flabby etc. I haven't always been happy in my body (positive affirmations do help,!) But when I hear my smaller friends complain it actually makes me feel like wow, we all hate our bodies. I find it relatable. When I was more uncomfortable in my body, I used to think wow what do they think of me?!? If they are fat I'm the fattest fat fat ever. But that came from a place of insecurity and self centered thinking. They aren't thinking about my body! They are insecure - HUMAN- just like me. We all have something to hate, I feel normal!!! Not insulted. Xo hope this take helps anyone.
OMG!! You literally almost made me cry 😭 I needed to hear this❤️ Thank you!!!
Wow that’s a great way to think, thank you so much for sharing❤
To a certain extent I completely agree with you and as someone who used to be extremely thin (like size 0-2) and was at my largest at a size 28, and now float somewhere between size 16-22, this take isn’t ALL right. When objectively thin women fat shame themselves, they are to a certain extent thinking to themselves the worst thing in the world to them would be to look like me as an actually fat person.
I wanna hug you after reading this. :c I used to be pretty overweight (over 200 lbs at 5’3). For my body, it was unhealthy. Now I’m teetering on being underweight thanks to an autoimmune disease and I’m what’s considered “skinny fat.” I’ve lost a lot of strength and balance, but with meds it’s a bit better. Now that I’ve seen both sides of the weight spectrum, it’s opened my mind a lot on how society makes us hate our bodies regardless of what they look like. It’s important to remember that this impacts all of us and it doesn’t revolve around us as one person, but as a collective.
In my childhood, when talking about the future, my mom always said: 'You and your future husband..or wife.'
Made coming out as bisexual really really easy
Your mum is a sweetheart
Clearly coming out wasn’t actually necessary 😂 Pretty sure your mom already knew.
Your mom is awesome!
Little me would correct my mom with the 'OR WIFE' to be more PC, but little did I know... 😏🌈
must be nice
As a member of the lgbtq+ community, I’m really glad that you included morgxn’s point of view for this episode. I think they offer a unique perspective on this topic, and I’m glad you gave them the space to share their experience that so many of us can relate to too.
Reddit story 4 is so heartbreaking 😢 Telling a child that you are gay is not indoctrinating them, it is telling them your truth and teaching them about inclusiveness & unconditional love and bringing our world one step closer to being more accepting. She wasn’t pushing the child to be gay, she was simply telling him a fact.
I hope that in the future schools will have picture books for students featuring LGBTQ characters, and platforms like Disney will have more LGBTQ characters, as well. Small things like that could make a world of difference in terms of acceptance
Exactly that was just her being like “ I’m a lesbian, this is what lesbian is” and it’s normal. Simple if you wanna Yknow not make your child closed minded you have to let them meet other new people who are diffrent
If numbers of LGBTQ+ identifying people go up it’s because they finally feel safe and not that it is “contagious” or something. Who would even know to come out if it isn’t an option?
"Good people" are not homophobic
Good people do not SHUT OUT their grandkids weddings just cause it’s two of the same gender
Good people SUPPORT OTHERS. Good people do not say their grandkids marriage is FAKE.
I loved Morgxn saying they can’t put aside the homophobia the way heterosexual people can. I’ve never thought about it like that, and I don’t think I’ll ever see it the same way again
@@NameName-yj7lp why are you using same-sex as the basis of your argument. If the whole LGBTQIAPD movement was just GLGLGLGL there would be order. The existence of more fluid and changing sexualities destroys the respectability of same-sex sexualities relationships. The LGBTQIADP movement is eating itself.
@@binghamguevara6814 wtf is you on about I said same sex wedding because their wedding was same sex???
So, if a guy makes very little but always gives to help people in need regardless of their lifestyle, spends his time taking care of his elderly relatives, counsels any of his friends who call him needing a shoulder, even the lgbt ones, doesn't lie, cheat, steal, or purposely hurt anyone, but he disagrees with a couple of points propagated by the lgbt community, such as being gay being a choice or it being okay to not provide services for a gay wedding, he's a homofobe and thus a bad person? Okay, cool. Just don't expect people to take you seriously. You aren't changing anybody with that belief. Disagreeing with something is not murder, so the example used by Morgan and Morgxn doesn't make sense even though they really think it's a real gotcha move.What if a guy does all of the things listed above, helping others, caring for his elderly family, being a friend, etc, but he's gay, and one person doesn't want to accept him? I know how you'd feel about that, but what would you say? I think I know. Wouldn't you say, "That isn't fair. You can't reject a person based on just that one thing. He isn't hurting anyone, he just doesn't think the same way you do." I would actually agree with you in that instance, but you only seem to believe that a little bad outways a lot of good when someone disagrees with part of your narrative. The exact opposite is true when the one bit of bad is something you don't even think of as bad. Suddenly, we should look at the whole person. Funny how that works.
My mum was brushing my hair one day and asked me "are you gay?" I said no. She said "okay.... Are you bi?" I said yeah. It has never been mentioned again and my bisexuality is normal
That’s such a cute visual as well lol
lucky asf
I wish my mom was like that, instead she just said I was confused and would grow out of it 😕
Fat shaming and skinny shaming are both bad but I think the belief that fat shaming is worse comes from the fact that most skinny shaming happens on a person to person basis whereas fat shaming happens on a larger scale. The media shamed fat people. When overweight people go to the doctors for something unrelated to weight, they’re stigmatized and often not diagnosed correctly. The fashion industry is built for skinny people for the most part. So fat shaming feels more universal vs a person to person issue. Both are awful though
fat shaming is to such a larger scale which is why it sucks to hear that skinny shaming is just as bad
@@whoevencares6106 yep
As someone with the vast majority of the family belonging in the medical industry-- there is no "fat stigma" more often than not almost every single disease that an overweight person comes to a doctor with is more so weight related than any other statistical measure. A doctor telling you to lose weight to treat your hormonal imbalances is not a "misdiagnosis" or "a health concern completely unrelated to weight". Just as someone who is underweight presenting with insomnia caused by vitamin deficiencies will be told to gain some weight and eat a balanced diet for example. People think that a diagnosis is a one to one correlation, but fail to understand that the reason why doctors spend an additional 8-12 years in med school is to understand the vast schema of interconnected causes of diseases-- many of which are exacerbated and concealed by weight problems.
Fat shaming is worse because skinny is the beauty standard so you cant shame it or be upset by it
Fatshaming is worse than “skinny shaming” because fatphobia affects fat AND thin people. No matter how thin someone is they DO NOT want to be FAT. They want to “put on weight” “wish they weren’t so thin” but they do not want to be FAT.
Thats why fatphobia is such a huge issue, it affects everyone because fat across all bodies is rejected and stigmatized.
I love love when Morgxn was saying what if we don't have to come out? That's how I'm trying to be with my kids. They just are, they can just be. Their sexuality isn't the end all be all. They are who they are, they're beautiful and valid. I'm so glad more people are raising children this way I know I'm not the only one.
I really feel for the guy that has the homophobic grandparents. My entire family is Republican, so any time we talk about politics, it ends with me either crying in frustration or having a panic attack. Those talks have been banned recently, for obvious reasons. I have said my opinions, they have said theirs, and nothing would change that.
If I cut off my family, I would be cutting out my biggest supporters and my best friends(siblings.) It sucks knowing that your family doesn’t hold your same values, especially when they treat you really well aside from that. It’s easy to say you would cut them out when they are just your grandparents, but cutting out people that help and love you through every day issues makes things a lot harder than you’d think.
Also, I am a bisexual woman, if that puts anything in perspective.
i feel the exact same way
Exactly. It’s hypocritical asf to cut people out of your life for not agreeing with your beliefs/views, but then to think they’re sooo wrong for doing the same exact thing only with THEIR beliefs. I can’t stand the double standards.
Yeah. He was definitely NOT the asshole. Grandparents are usually very important in close families. In some cultures, elders are the most important family. This expectation of excluding them is both unrealistic and ignorant. It is one day, and weddings are more important to older relatives. The cousins only care to make an example of the Grandparents.. they don't actually care about the wedding. And I'm sure Grandparents will be at Xmas and Thanksgiving, so why exclude them for one day? This whole episode was biased. It's truly unfortunate, because I'm a very vocal supporter of the lgtbqia+ community. But I would never require anyone to exclude their less educated family. Besides, most families have someone who is ignorant about something. It may not be this, but there's always something. 🤷♀️
^^this is the nuance they totally missed. I love the gang but I have to say this felt a little bit virtue signal-y. Especially when they skated over the cousin, Jane, and her beliefs on immigration. And then describing their own homophobic grandparent that they have not cut out. It’s just a lot of hypocrisy imo.
@@ejcannon5897EXACTLY. Now, I have cut off my own conservative family members, but that was my choice. I also thought OP was TA based on what I have done in my own life. However, listening to Morgan rattle on about how her grandma doesn’t recognize her son’s husband made me want someone to ask Morgan exactly what she has done to support her uncle. She brought this grandma a car, right? The hypocrisy was startling to hear.
RE: the “rotisserie chicken” story.
as someone who deals with an ed, i’d toss the whole man. i cant imagine and all i think about is the possible ed spiral this poor woman might go through. i really hope he goes to therapy at the LEAST because literally what the fuck????
As a female Christian whenever the time comes for me to have kids I plan on teaching about all types of relationships so they can learn who they are. I love this episode 😌
I literally love you sm
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My sister outed me (on purpose) about a week ago and yesterday my step mother literally tried to tell me I don’t like women just because I find a woman attractive 💀
Gurl I- no words😭‼️
First of all I love your pfp second of all your step mom is ignorant for thinking that way I’m so sorry your sister did that no one should be outed before they’re ready I hope all goes well with you 💛
@@alizemontoya9277 thank you so much ❤️✨
1. Sister is awful I've had it happen twice 2. Step mom is also awful and hopefully she will get better but of she doesn't I'm sorry and 3. I'm sorry this has happened to you it's not fun to be outed I really hope you're okay :)
@@nataliecarden6346 thank you I’m hope ur ok too :)
That’s horrible no one should do that. The Sister and step mom are shitty but hopefully they learn/get more educated.
My mother used to tell me when I was a teen that I was allowed to bring home whoever or “whatever” I wanted. They could be any ethnicity as long as they weren’t a girl. Her biggest fear when I was going into college was that my roommate would be bisexual or pansexual (she heard a “horror” story from her bestie who’s daughter had a pansexual roommate with many sex partners). I’ve known that I am pansexual since I was about 16yrs and I’ll never tell my mom just because of these two instances. I’ll never feel comfortable enough to be honest with her about it.
i’m so sorry. i get it and it’s such a disheartening feeling. i hope you can find/have found your support group where you can be yourself unapologetically ❤
I can’t stand body shaming in general but ESPECIALLY not when it’s someone who is pregnant or just had a baby. Are you actually kidding? This person just brought a human life into the world and THAT is what you’re thinking about? BYE! 😭
Yeah, this one was the worst stories of all, imo. I hope she thought through that marriage of theirs, the guy seems to have no empathy at all. That relationship was only good until she gained the plus weight from her pregnancy. Like wtf...
I hope she is ok now and gets support. Working and taking care of a baby/little child alone is really hard. :(
About the one where he hid his husband, I get it completely. My family isn’t homophobic, but my mother cried when I told her I was a lesbian. They could be accepting for everyone else but you, or they could just have a bad reaction because they future for you in your head can’t be true. I dont think he was the asshole here at all.
Thank you! That's what I was thinking
I think they got upset about him hiding and being dishonest towards them for 3 whole years, then marry in secret maybe he hurt/ insulted their feelings assuming they would be homofobic. But I get his point of view too, coming out must be very scary.
Why would you leave your child with someone if you don't accept their lifestyle? How is that the gay person's problem?
The girl who told her little cosine was definitely in the right and I’m honestly shocked so many people where not on her side because when i was young for the longest i didn’t know that it was “not normal” to be gay or apart of the lgbtq+ community because my mom talked about it so casually that she didn’t need to explain it to me and everytime she would talk about me being in a relationship she would say boyfriend or girlfriend she was very inclusive as a mother that i would always be so shocked when i met homophobic or racist people because i genuinely and honestly still don’t understand how people can think like that basically what I’m getting at it should be the norm to tell kids about these things
I love this! ❤️ Homophobia and racism, or any other form of bigotry for that matter, is what should be regarded as abnormal.
As a non straight chubby gender less person this podcast episode hit home
I rarely comment on UA-cam or social media, but this podcast hit me extremely hard. With that being said, in the last story shared, I'm usually the person that my thinner friends rant to about their sizes being too "big" (when they are x-small, small, or medium) whereas, I am the plus-sized friend. As a person who has struggled with so many insecurities, it sucks listening to my friends complain. Of course, I always told them they were good but in the back of my head I always wondered "What do they see me as?" I loved the way Morgan put it into perspective because I still experience that!!!! There have been times where I was vocal about it and the response I got was somewhat like "You? You're not fat! Look at me, the numbers do not lie." I then would calmly repeat the same response "The numbers do not lie." The numbers = weight on a scale. It stunned my friends and the topic would be changed. These are just some personal experiences I went through. Whoever reads this, I AM SO SORRY FOR THE PARAGRAPH AND YOU ARE HOT SO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Thank you so so much for your comment and sharing your perspective! The way you describe calling it out is something I go through a lot. It takes a toll on your self esteem even if not intended. That journey of self love and body peace can be a challenging one can’t it?! 🙈
I experienced something similar. I was in later high school years and mostly good still with my body image (some developing but not that bad) but talking with friends and it came up to what they considered plus size - double digit pant size. Both of them were pretty small, while I had a few sizes on them so I fit in their definition of plus sized at the time, more so now. I called it out and they said they didn't realize and tried to take it back telling me I didn't look like I weighted that much but it has stuck with me and I still feel the effects of that unintended body image message/attack.
My best friend at the time had done the same over the years we were close. Thankfully it didn't affect me as much as the first time but probably didn't help either.
Dont be sorry for being relatable
I don’t know about your friends, but with me, I deal with major body issues, many people have told me I am bordering on anorexia, and I always put pressure on myself to have a “flat stomach,” etc. etc. But I never put those views about my own body insecurities on other people, everyone else looks absolutely beautiful/handsome too me, their weight/height/etc. doesn’t matter to me at all. It’s literally just insecurities I place on myself and no one else, I am not very forgiving towards myself at all 😅 Also, YOU ARE HOT TOO HAVE A NICE DAY!
Oh, but the fact that they talk about it in front of you is so inconsiderate, they shouldn’t be doing that. Have you talked about how it makes you feel? They might not realize that they are indirectly hurting you. And if they do realize, you should find better friends because that is toxic.
Morgxn talking about the hope people dont have to come out, I agree 100000%
I can definitely relate to some of these stories as a bisexual woman. I know that some of my family would not support my marriage had I decided to marry a woman, so now that I happen to be marrying a man i feel weird about inviting them to the wedding, knowing that if I had happened to fall in love with a woman they would not have wanted to come.
The 1st story really hit me hard. A close family member said a similar thing to me, assuming that me being bisexual would make me cheat on my fiancé. They asked me “why would he be marrying you if you were really bisexual?”, implying that I couldn’t be trusted. Just because I can love both genders does not make me any less capable of being loyal to and choosing 1 person for the rest of my life. Just like straight people, we can be in committed relationships, it is no different.
Another hurtful thing I faced when coming out was people questioning if I was really bisexual because I was in a relationship with a man. Like do they not realize that being bisexual means I also like men!?!? If anyone else has faced similar struggles know that I support you and wish you all the best ❤️ Thanks THT for addressing these topics!!!
Thank you for sharing your experiences. I’m sorry you dealt with such dense people and they couldn’t get past their own bigoted, uneducated, stereotypical ways.
Stop stressing about "could have/ might have", what ifs and buts. Try to enjoy your real life versus an imaginary/ hypothetical one and have a great wedding and a wonderful life!!! 😀
when are we dropping some “at the end of the day ✨” merch? would actually love some 🤣
It’s on our to do list
AND LIZZO PLAYS THE FLUTE…My lungs could never😩
In regards to the guy who came out to his family and announced his marriage, my takeaway is that the mother was upset he lied about being in a relationship and feels betrayed. My advice is just give it time, talk to your mother when she's cooled down a little bit and just give it time. If she loves you she'll come around.
As a woman with Ed Alejandra speech around the 2hour mark bout how hard we are on our bodies had me balling. Need more body talk like this!!!
That first Reddit post: as a lesbian, absolutely NOT the asshole, if anything those cousins are being unreasonable demanding. Someone ELSE’s wedding is not the place to make a statement like that. Who makes demands about someone else’s guest list?????
That's what I thought too. I'm a gay person myself and I see nothing wrong with what OP decided to do. Its his wedding anyways. Also, the grandparents has archaic mindset, its unlikely they'll change or learn their lesson if OP did restrict them from attending his wedding.
I’m so glad that someone else felt the same way about the first post. I feel as if the cousins are taken away from someone’s big day!
If they wanted to be supportive while still inviting the grandparents, I think they could do something that included the cousins, or was pride supporting. Idk what exactly. Get a special rainbow mini-cake maybe, or have a speach where they talk about their cousins beautiful marriage and hoe they want nothing more than to be like them. Something that sends the message without costing them people that they love.
When this story first posted I got into it with people on Reddit, cause I felt the same as you. Inviting the grandparents to your own wedding is not a betrayal, nor guilt by association. Also, there was additional info that the grandparents had paid the down payment on a house for one of the cousins and their spouse. So their family is fine accepting the grandparents’ money, and the grandparents themselves still show love and support for their grandchild, just not for the marriage since they view it through a traditional/religious lense. Make no mistake, those beliefs are backwards and have no place in our modern world, but this story is not so cut and dry like some make it seem.
Signed, your friendly neighborhood bisexual
I can say Pride does include all the groups Obidiah mentioned. I am proud ally to the LGBTQIA+ community. My first pride experience was at the 50th anniversary of Stonewall. I will never FORGET seeing so many older ppl/couples celebrating and living their truths. Seeing them and realizing they could not do this when they were younger. It still makes me so emotional to remember that day. ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜
"As long as you're happy, I'm happy."
Yeah, I got that from my mom when I was in an LD relationship with my first girlfriend. 2 weeks after our 6 months relationship ended, my mom told me to get over it because it wasn't a real relationship since it was LD & gay.
I've never talked about my relationships with girls since and she thinks it was a "phase".
I really appreciated Morgxn’s words of encouragement for young people struggling with being bi/straight/gay. my heart goes out to people that basically live a lie, because they’re afraid their friends/family/church wouldn’t accept them. everyone has the right to love who they want, and we should celebrate love; no matter who it’s with.
When you are talking about the girls, one being an extra small and the friends being XXL. I can see both sides. Growing up one of my best friends struggled with anorexia, she would make comments about how big her legs and arms were and how she hated them. I have always struggled with eating and my weight. I have never been and XXL but I have been a large a couple times through out my life. I have also been a small or medium. When my friend would say things about her body I would say "you are so small, this is big" then point at parts on my body I didn't like. I never disliked her or was upset that she was saying these things. I understood that she didn't see her body the way the rest of the world did. I also understand where the girl is coming from when she talks about not seeing her body as small after losing the weight. Sometimes when I look in the mirror I still see myself when I was 30-40lbs heavier, and other times I see myself how I am now. All this body stuff plays with your brain and if you don't change your mindset nothing will change.
I feel like Morgan couldn’t really talk when it came down to the family isn’t homophobic so they had no reason to not come out, the process of coming out is the most scary sad and terrifying thing you can do, it doesn’t even matter if the person most likely will accept you. It’s all the thoughts and doubts that they don’t. Imagining over and over again the family you love may not love you back can be crippling and the worst thing.
Coming from someone who’s apart of the community, I don’t think making other people’s wedding guest list about myself is appropriate. Like it’s just not the crucial. It sounds like it’s their religious belief that marriage is between a woman and a man, so who cares? We can mutually disagree without dragging other people into it. It’s problematic to expect others to be social justice warriors for their own wedding.
Those first two stories hit hard as a bisexual I've had people ask me if I was just trying to cover up for being lesbian because I prefer women just a little more then men
I really resonate with the issues bisexual people face. I, myself, am pansexual, and it's so frustrating when other members of the LGBTQ+ community try to invalidate people who're interested in more than one gender. We're not straight if we end up in a heterosexual relationship and we're not gay if we end up in a homosexual relationship. We are the sexuality we identify as.
I’m not a podcast person because I love to see the faces of the people talking so I love that you put your full lenght videos on here💕 I enjoy this so much! Keep it up💗
Yep Samee
yes!!! i’m so glad a lot of podcasts have become both audio and visual in recent years
I’ve been trying to change my language, so like when I’m getting ready especially on bad body days, I’ll ask ‘does this outfit work?’ ‘Does the look suit me?’ Or even ‘any suggestions to add to this?’ Cuz I’m not saying there’s a problem with my body, cuz there isn’t even though it is something I struggle with after gaining 3 stone, just the clothes or fit might work better altered 💛
I love what morgxn said! Queer love is love! This was a very eye opening episode. I realized something I didn’t think was homophobic actually was.
I love your podcast!
Can confirm, I was fat shame in High school, as a result I've struggled with SO many eating disorders. I hardly ate for near enough a year and ended up under weight. Then was shamed for being too skinny.
i found this podcast and decided to listen to it and it made me think of the other day my dad commented on my body saying i looked anorexic. he literally stopped me and asked "hey you look rly skinny. u aren't anorexic, are u?" and i have actually have been dealing with a binge eating and purging thing due to bad body issues and hearing my dad say that broke my heart and made me so self conscious. i did tell him not to make those comments and he just said "its not my fault u feel like that. i cant control ur feelings im just saying you look anorexic" and still to this day he says it and no matter what i tell him he still does it.
listening to this episode made me feel a lot better about myself in a way. so thanks.
(English isn't my first language sorry if i made spelling or grammar mistakes)
Hard to admit it, but I grew up with a lot of biases being in a rural, sheltered community. Podcasts like this really helped me to see that I didn’t like the way I was thinking and actively work on being an ally and inclusive. Education is really important and changes lives. Good luck out there everybody! 💖
that's very cool, honestly! It is so damn hard to reverse the stuff we were taught so I'm glad you're putting that effort in!
Coming from a fat woman...the person who keeps calling herself fat in front of larger friends, is the asshole. Even if I'm working on "reclaiming" fat when I comes to my body, and saying "I'm a bad-ass fat bitch", hearing someone so much smaller call themselves fat and disgusting really shows me how they feel about me. It shows me that they are skin deep, and their compliments won't hold weight with me anymore.
its called body dysmorphia and its nothing personal personally ive made it clear that im body positive to everyone but myself cause I have an ed
This really helped me. Both on my sexuality and my body. Lately my body dysmorphia has been really toxic. This has made me realize that I’m beautiful. Thank you.
I think alot of heterosexual conformist like diet acceptance also I think that Morgan and alejandera are both kind of "standard sizes* and this is what also helps form their point of views however I genuinely think that they are so accepting,loving and caring about others and aren't judgemental just watching them on youtube
The guy who got married and didnt tell his family did say his reason and that it was because the topic of lgbtq+ never came up so he was scared to see their reaction
skinny shaming is 100% not the same as fat shaming. fat people in America are OPPRESSED skinny people aren’t
Can y’all do a skin positivity episode? Cystic acne is really hard to deal with.
at 18:54 does he mean they are learning pronouns in context of gender identity? Because pronouns have always been taught in school as parts of speech and grammar? Thats not a new thing for children to learn, I did in elementary school 15 years ago? The rhetoric that kids are suddenly being taught pronouns for the first is put out by the right to insight transphobia in misinformed people
This part made me wonder what context he meant but dont get me wrong i love your pod and love that you brought on morgxn this time :)
I'm pretty sure he meant kids are being taught neo pronouns as well as the traditional she/her, he/him in school. So ze/zir, they/them (as a consistent singular pronoun), etc
it’s interesting to me tbh how families can differ on what they do consider unacceptable.
my family is NOT accepting...
but they were fine with it when I was out as bisexual, the minute i realized i was actually a lesbian they were NOT OK with it. Hell the word is literally banned from being uttered in my house.
It’s interesting to hear people with the opposite experience.
As a pansexual woman it’s honestly the most irritating thing getting those comments like “oh but your dating a guy” or “you don’t look gay” and the bs about bi an pan people being cheaters has always drove me mad I’ve been cheated on by men women some in between and I have never cheated
1:06:50 at this point "body dysmorphia" is stated. Just want to educate letting you know this is dysphoria :) (i am a nonbinary/trans individual)
Thanks to Morgan for not adding ads perfect video to fall asleep too
honestly i can’t blame the guy who hid his relationship for three years. my grandma isn’t necessarily homophobic but for the past FOUR fucking years she has said she won’t believe it until i am in a committed marriage for a few years. every day i wish i never told them and i just kept my life away from them.
When they were all talking about the guy who got secretly married to his husband, and they said that they didn't _need_ to come out to not be in the closet, my first thought was about how I "came out" as lesbian.
I was brushing my hair and my family had been silent for around 10 mins, this was when I was 13, and my mum just walked in, said "You know you're gay, right?" And I said "yeah", her only reaction was "Okay I'm glad that you know so you don't need to tell us" then went back to whatever she was doing.
I didn't come out, but i never attempted to hide it. Actually i don't think anyone ever assumed i was straight to begin with-
Im so happy you guys talked abt this. I’m prolly gonna take this comment down soon bc I haven’t told anyone that I’m not straight and I don’t wanna risk ppl seeing it. But I just wanted you guys to know that this is so true, and also in a long time I’ve thought I was bi but ion know what I am so I love your idea of just being, instead of having to come out to ppl
It completely doesn’t make sense. Legally they are their spouse. Do they not think marriages observed by any religion are valid? Do they check the domination/religion/or observance of everyone they meet? Do they mock their LGBTQIA coworkers or do the only belittle those that are related.
I immediately looked up and listened to the song. INCREDIBLE! Y'all did such an amazing job. From the lyrics to the vocals ❤❤. Morgan with an "A" I am obsessed with your podcast, I've listened to all of them in about a week. They have made me look at relationships differently in a good way and knowing my worth. I look forward to all your uploads ❤❤❤
As the parent of a non-binary, pan, poly young teen, I am so happy to see all the acceptance available to them in this new generation. My kid didn't 'come out' as poly or pan, they just were. They did feel the need to 'come out' as trans and it seemed harder for them to say it than it was for us to accept it. And their friends didn't miss a beat.
For the first reddit story I understand it's focused on the grandparents homophobia but we completely glossed over "Jane" and her wife having issues with immigrants and the grandparents are immigrants. It sounds like there is animosity flowing both ways in that relationship and both "Jane" and the grandparents suck. It's the writer's personal choice but they would be supporting the homophobic views by inviting the grandparents to the wedding but also are there any other immigrants or mixed people in the family because maybe Jane and her wife shouldn't be invited either.
I disagree with some of what y’all are saying and I’ve been bi for some part of my life. Grandparents lived in a different generation. You can shame them and hate them but they aren’t always going to change, the best way to help someone grow is show compassion and be kind. A lot of gays act rude and pushy, that’s how I used to be and it only pushes people further. The more love and kindness you show the softer their hearts will be
It’s funny that Morgan mentioned Schitts creek because I was thinking the whole time that Morgxn looks like Dan levy!
The body shaming part really hits for me. I've been made fun of nearly my entire life for being larger than what others deemed acceptable. Cut to me becoming an adult and getting a job at a plus sized clothing store, I lost a fair amount of weight in my early to mid twenties because of a chronic illness and medication but I was still technically plus sized. I then got comments from customers saying skinny people shouldn't be allowed to work at the store because they didn't get what it was like to be bigger (mind you I was in the 180s to low 200s but because of my height, I carry the weight well). I understand for some of the customers they lash out about those things because of how they feel about themselves, but I still wish I could've recounted all of the things that have been said to me in my life about my weight. Unfortunately the store is the kind of store that one complaint on me could've gotten me fired. Since middle school, I have never been smaller than a size twelve. Before the pandemic and another med change, I had consistently weighed between 175lbs and 200lbs at 6' tall. I have for the most part recovered from the trauma of growing up on the heavier side, but it's completely absurd that people feel it's necessary to comment on other people's bodies especially for those of us who can't always control what our bodies do as far as weigh gain or loss goes.
Morgxn’s sighs of “of course” or “here we go again” or “been there before” kill me im sorry 🤣😂😂
Yea fat shaming is a thing but so is skinny shaming. People condemn fat shaming but don’t condemn skinny shaming
Thats because the beauty standards have been built around skinny people for decades. Fashion and clothing is tailored to skinny people. Clothes that are made for your bodies don't look good on plus sized bodies, yet plus sized clothes are still tailored to your shape just with extra fabric. Medication dosages are made for you, because they don't allow obese people to participate in most medical trials. Airplanes, trains, cars, movie theaters, everything is tailored to your body. Plus sized people grow up with rude comments and straight up bullying inside and outside the home for their weight, are often put on diets as children and develope eating disorders because of it. This is why fat shaming is such a big deal. Because plus sized people are told that they aren't worthy of love or good medical care unless they are skinny. Sure, skinny people can have body issues, but don't act like they are the same thing when I've dealt with both, and there is no comparing them.
@@chloerene7858 listen people skinny shaming me perpetuated disordered eating for me. Also small people have trouble finding clothes that fit as well. I constantly struggle finding clothing that properly fits. In no way was I discrediting fat shaming but fat shaming is talked about much much more than skinny shaming I’m sorry for your experiences in both regards but I wasn’t discrediting either in any way.
Also it’s hard to say anything about skinny shaming because it’s almost invalidated by people saying “fat shaming is worse”
@@chloerene7858 I do believe that fat shaming is a lot more widespread than skinny shaming, but when either happen, it is equally as bad. No one has a right to shame a person for their body and any sort of body shaming causes extreme issues for the person being shamed. When I was a child, I was bullied by my peers and my family, them saying that I am a stick, twig, etc. This caused me to have extreme issues with eating a lot of food, which is kind of counter-intuitive I know, and now I am bordering on anorexia. When I was in my early teens, I was so weak that I broke two bones in my arm when I feel on a bike. When you are extremely thin, medicines can be too potent for you because medicines are made for people of average weight. Many skinny people don’t have access to fitting clothes because the only ones available in many places are S, M, and L sizes. Different people have different experiences, you don’t get to dictate based on your own experience if fat shaming or skinny shaming is worse. Which is worse shouldn’t even matter, both are terrible.
May I join the Pisces chain, I'm the third. 🙋♀️
First story: it was my mum for me too. I came out as bisexual to my mum and she didn't believe me. Straight up just said 'no'. Luckily I have a very supportive dad who grew up tough but open community, and just wants his kids to be safe, healthy and happy. I also came out to my grandparents (dads side) when i was 19 and they were also super supportive. Didn't make a big deal, just accepted me and moved on kinda how you should. And my mum was left in an awkward position. 😊
Thank you for bringing up the discrimination and criticism that bisexual people receive from the LGBTQ+ community and straight people. Biphobia comes in many forms unfortunately. I’m a bi woman who has experienced the fetishization of bisexuality by straight people and couples. I just want to be who I am and love who I love. 🌈
27:56 The absolute beauty of a person who wrote this comment made me fall in love. That response to the first story was so beautiful and well-articulated that it could only have come from a very wise soul who has unfortunately seen and experienced a lot of hardship for themselves. Brava, kind, anonymous redditor-- brava!
I personally hate labels. I'd prefer to just be. If i did label myself I'd be bisexual, poly, and possibly asexual towards my relationships with women. I'm happily married to a man and we have 5 kids, but this doesn't make me any less of who i am. My husband has always known who i am, and if i wanted to date a woman i can at any time. That does not mean that we have 3 somes. My relationships with both would be separate. Love is valid! People should be allowed to just be.... be who you are, no matter who or what that is. ❤
59:45 Oh Morgan, sweety, it's legal in all US states to get married-- it's been that way since the supreme court decision in 2015...
As a full figured woman… i think the story about the girl who’s fiancé fat shames people and her is super common. Men lowkey love the thickness but publicly they will do anything to maintain a reputation, esp for their boys… 🙄
Highly disagree with the grandparents take.
According to the post they don't say anything in regards to their thoughts on this topic unless asked, they're not going to show up and make snide comments or be rude, and they also do seem to be supportive towards these cousins in other ways despite their thoughts on the marriages.
If what OP says is true then he's literally being expected to ban his own grandparents from the wedding based on their THOUGHTS. Not some awful thing they've done or said but simply their thoughts. Nah. Two old people calling your spouse a 'girlfriend'/'boyfriend' is not the threat to anyones rights ya'll think it is.
We've lost all sanity when we start treating grandparents who are a little behind the times the same way we'd treat a member of the WBC, or comparing them to murderers as you all did like c'mon.
Morgan’s uncles story .. about his 1st partner is why every person needs to be able to marry anyone they love and want to marry .. many people have a dying wish to marry so the person they marry can be their next of kin and others dream of marrying since young ages. Why are we still living by old white straight privileged men from 200 years ago . Be the change you want to see ,
The second story 1, totally disagree. NOBODY is going to use MY WEDDING to prove a point. Sorry not happening 💀
I had an aunt who’s homophobic and she seemed very nice until I got a little older and realized how bad homophobia was. I also realized a lot of other red flags about her. Nothing dangerous or anything but she just did good things but didn’t have too good intentions
Am I the only one who think the secret twitter guy just found an excuse to send his wife to his twitter so his wife could “stumble upon” his comments about women being overweight?
what happened between taking the grandparents money for the mortgage and asking to uninvite them from the wedding. That's what I really want to know
Loved this episode. I have struggled so much with body image, but throughout my journey to self love and the single life (so as to not seek male validation) I'm discovering new things about myself and try to focus on specific goals (fitness related, like getting strong arms and carry my on weight-oh, what a dream-) and i always try to remember that, no matter what, my relationship to myself comes first, 'cause I'll be my longtime companion. And also, life's too short to not enjoy yourself, in anyway you can, so as long as your happy and healthy, nothing else will really matter. Be that bitch, cause haters and trolls will always exist.
The conversation at the end about practicing gratitude about your appearance hit me HARD. Alejandra talking about how her legs take her on 5 mile runs and that her arms lift and type and provide touched me. I have always had body issues. Ever since I had my son a year ago, I’ve gained weight and gotten a skin condition. I’ve always hated how I looked and the extra skin from pregnancy and weight gain after quitting chest feeding have made it worse. But with hearing her say those things, it made me realize what my body is capable of. My body grew a human and sustained that human for 10 months through human milk. My body helps people every day during their own labor processes and helps them bring their babies into the world. Alejandra, I thank you so much for saying that. ❤️
I sent this to Alejandra and she shed some tears. She really appreciates what you wrote! Thank you so much for writing this and sharing your experience. Being able to create another human is such an insanely magical thing. I’m glad what Ale said helped you realize this and find some peace/sense of accomplishment/gratitude with your beautiful self ❤️
@@TwoHotTakes Thank you for sending it to her! I love this podcast and want you all to know that you’re touching lives ❤️
i absolutely agree with the family’s reactions - yes, it is your choice when to come out. but holy f*ck, you lied to them for three years! i’d be pissed too. doesn’t matter at all that you’re gay, it’s that you hid your entire relationship from them and sprung it on them with zero warning. congratulations, but i completely understand their reactions
I agree to but isn’t saying you might never wanna talk to him again because of that a but much
@@Stuck_in_a_cemetery it really depends on trust. That was something that broke the family's trust. Once trust is broken its almost impossible to build it to what it once was
When people ask how I define myself and sexuality I always say queer. I’m fine with whatever, I don’t have or want a label. I’m happy with being me and I don’t know what future me wants or will find out.
This podcast is constantly the highlight of my week
i have so much i could say about the girl that was recovering from an ED and then her boyfriend/husband was making comments, ive been there before but it wasnt my husband that made the comments but my mom constantly made them when i would eat something she would comment "how can you eat so much and stay so damn skinny?" i hid my ED for 25 years until my son found out about it and he then told my husband what was going on. A few nights after my son told my husband about it, we were at the dinner table and my mom made a comment and my 14 yr old son exploded and yelled at her at that she needed to shut the hell up and see i was sick and how could he notice what i was doing and the pattern of my behavior but neither my mom or husband had never noticed it. my son was livid and my mom played dumb so again my son was like she forces herself to get sick after every damn meal because of the fact that you and everyone else in the fucked up family that you all come from made fun of her from such a young age its caused this, and its not new, ive known about it for years but felt i had no place to say something until i confronted her about a week ago because i knew i was going to lose my mom if i didnt finally say something and take some type of action to help her since none of you seem to want to do anything but make dumb comments.
i can also speak on the army forcing the issue of couples counseling and even singles counseling just recently, as I have been married to a soldier for the past 19 years. The couples counseling has been something they have been pushing since the war in the middle east broke out back in 2001 because the divorce rate was so high, but then they started realizing that alot of the male soldiers were marrying to get the extra money but most of them married stripers who took them for everything they had while they were deployed. As for the singles counseling they love to send them to the VA which is a clusterfuck in and of itself, my husband's first therapist actually told him he needed to divorce me because i was to involved in his business and medical care, which pissed my husband off because i had called her to tell her he had an allergic reaction to ambien and then 2 days later tried to commit suicide and would have done it had i not walked in on him and talked him out of it. I reported the therapist to her supervisor but nothing was done as its been 10 years and she still works there, still counseling guys to divorce their wives. Its absolutely crazy! After her my husband then went through 8 different therapists in the next 2.5 years because none of them stayed long because the environment was toxic. He was also switched to 54 different psych meds in 3 years. I finally had enough because things were getting super bad and i was worried one of our sons was going to find him dead one day when coming in from school. I found him am awesome therapist in 2015 and he is back as close to the man i married that he ever will be. The only thing that still breaks me is none of our kids will ever know what an incredibly funny. fun loving and out going person he was before being sent to war, but at least they still have their dad and thats more than what alot of kids have
love morgan, alejandra, and obediah's vibe together ❤️❤️❤️ more this three hot takes trio !!
Fun fact I learned on TikTok the other day: under different spectrums of light, humans actually have tiger stripes! These are the same spectrums that cats see, so when our cats look at us they see us with tiger, or zebra stripes!
Can someone kindly explain how "the side that toxic masculinity suppresses-- your feminine energy" isn't in and of itself a form of toxic masculinity perpetuating gendered language and stereotyping?? It just is, point-blank. I can't even begin to describe how non-binary people feel about this construct that people are trying to perpetuate as being the antithesis of toxic-masculinity when they themselves are just digging that hole deeper and making it worse by saying "the feminine energy-- the caring, the shrouded, the hidden mystique of male personality that they only show to you when you're alone together." as if it's not the most toxic shit on the planet. If you're going to critique "locker room talk" you can't then put an emasculating title on the opposite expression of emotion and feeling as if it's a "womanly adventure" or a "feminine energy". For the love of God, men are just as capable of feeling these types of emotions as women there's no such thing as "feminine energy" if you believe that toxic masculinity shouldn't exist because perpetuating these boundaries on what makes a man or what makes a woman is just going to engrain these stereotypes deeper.
As a long time listener, I didn't like the new co-host. Too preachy. I'm in the LGBT community, as are 95% of my friends, and I just didn't like the other Morgxn.
A d j think Morgan and Justin weren’t as honest in this episode. I really feel like they were dancing around what they actually felt like saying
I love this podcast and typically agree with most takes however I feel like Morgan is being a cherry picker around the 33:00 Mark. She speaks about how messed up it is that the grandparents only refer to the couple as Boyfriends instead of Husbands but you just spoke to your grandmother doing the same thing. Then justified it by saying "I think she would go to my uncles wedding if he got married" But she can't even refer to his belated lover as that? He was just a "friend" Can you imagine the pain that makes her uncle feel? The amount of love he had for that man to hear people call him just "a Friend"
One thing I have noticed when it comes to body positivity and shaming is no one ever talks about face shaming.
Is looked at as a joke. Oh that person is a butter face haha.
My teeth need fixing, it’s genetic and because of different circumstances I never completed treatment. I also have a slight deformity on the tip of my nose That was never looked at and it’s gonna cost about $4000 to get it fixed
The amount of people that come up to me and ask what’s wrong with me and tell me I’m ugly is astounding. I was cornered and a train once asked me why my nose look like that and bullying me.
So I guess it was frustrating sometimes. Again Yes, I am 0/2 With a slightly hourglass figure. And I love my body but I can’t cover my face up with anything. So having to wear a mask all the time does help.
I'm probably in the minority in this, but as for the groom asking if he's honophobic for inviting his grandparents...no he's not. The best answer is for him to voice his opinions that he does not condone their opinions, but honestly the cousins have no say who the Bride & Groom invites to THEIR wedding. If his grandparents decides not to go because of what he said, that's on them. Idk, I just feel no one has a say who the Bride & Groom invites to their wedding.
Edit: I'm a lesbian that has homophobes in my family and my sister invited them all because it was her wedding and she wanted family there. I never felt some way because it's not MY wedding
im late to this episode, but i really like Morgxn and Obediah!! i hope they come back on the podcast!!
Little brother (16) senior in high school broke up with his long term gf a couple months ago then recently told us all he was dating his friend Greg, i was ECSTATIC bc me and my other brother are bisexual as well. I wanted to talk to him about safe sex and relationship habits but didn’t want to get weird or stress him out after just coming out to us. Im going to get him these books im so glad I saw this ❤️
i’m from Texas and i now live in oceanside cause the hubby is military. the water here IS THE WORST
It is absolute trashhh
GAYNESS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU SHOULDN'T TELL KIDS ABOUT.
I was wondering if they were planning on homeschooling somewhere in the country. You literally can't take your child anywhere where they won't be exposed to people.