Wrath of the Lich King Expansion Details - Unknown Side of WoW
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In this series we look at some of the more unknown things in wow, with today's episode having a heavy focus on Wrath of the lich king, in celebration of Wrath of the Lich king Classic.
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akshually hiru. They did technically add a new zone sort of in wrath. That little island north of the argent tournament was previously nearly useless until the patch that focused on the argent preparing to storm the citadel. It's called something like Hrothgar's Landing. Full of giants and duergar and lore about Hellya, I believe. It's more like just new quesets from the argent crusade patch made the area useful than adding an actual area to explore but they didn't need to because the argent tournament was already the quest hub and it had you trot all around the continent or northrend, but some of the longer parts of the grind take place in hrothgar's. Where we learn quite a bit about a lot of different story threads through the argent tournament. Stuff like the duergar origin, their curse, and some hints about cataclysm, I think, because of the elements and kraken and stuff. It's been a while since I went back there and it's easy to forget but I think it's worth mentioning they did add an area for the daily hub in the half patch for argent tournament JUST LIKE every other expansion. So suck on that
I feel really bad for people than can't be bothered to level a wow character and would much rather pay someone to do it for them. That's incredibly pathetic.
Howling Fuh-jord
Wouldn’t be a hiruma video without improper pronunciations
im convinced he says it to farm comments about the mispronunciation
@@sneaksies8931 I would think so if I didn’t have a friend that does the same thing with pronunciations. He calls Nagrand, GNAW-GROND
I had no idea of the aged wine, and I’ve played for years and years. I wonder how many more things that blizzard has put in the game and no one has ever figured it out or stumbled across.
I read somewhere a while back that there are many Easter eggs that Blizzard has put in that haven’t been found out yet. Very cool
Everytime the Grizzly Hills music starts, it hits this spot in my heart that nothing can describe.
"No post launch zones"
This is Hrothgar's Landing erasure.
I was going so same thing but I can why Hirumaredx compared to the other post launch all there was like only off quests the un like ever other have dungeons/raids if did not go there you missed nothing ground breaking just all snow and some odds the biggest for me not a lot there until Legion that is where I am pretty sure where get you death knight mount so I hope see it my and give him a break I sure have
@@Kingsupertrunks IRC the Death Knight mount takes place in an even MORE North place that you go to ONLY for that quest called like "Lost Glacier" or some shit.
@@thewalrus45 probably right been playing since 2006 so much of the game mixes after awhile plus we go there once
One additional thing though for this video that I remember, there is a toy shop in Dalaran that sold a train set that when placed makes every player in the radius do the /train emote which can be very annoying during raids. Blizzard eventually added the windup train smasher that you could buy to smash the train set and stop the effect. It was used a lot.
Not to mention one of the first real shop items Lil' XT who also worked as a train smasher.
Fond memories of doing this myself. People would get irrationally angry if someone laid a toy train down during buffs and shit
was in a raid just yesterday when someone took out the train, still happens quite a bit (especially when waiting for people to join) but significantly less than before
My favourite alternative to the toy train set is the Piccolo from strat. I make it my aim to get everyone dancing while we form.
Might’ve forgotten to switch it back to my combat trinket more than a few times, don’t tell my RL.
Ulduar has a special place in my heart. The
ambiance is simply amazing.
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Same. I am still running it to try to get the mount but I don't really mind since the ambience is so beautiful. I even do optional fights.
Actually there was one zone added although it wasn’t anything special so I’m not surprised you completely forgot about it. The island to the north of ice crown that is used for dailies was added with the trail of the crusader patch.
I was going to be a smartass and comment this but you beat me to it lol.
Not really a new "zone" it was a tiny area added to icecrown, sorta like how kasarang wilds got some new spots added, but not a new "zone"
@@frozengrip2609 well feel free to also point out that silithus was added to the game post release back in vanilla too which means every expansion has had something added too it.
@@RazanaArcclaw it has its own separate map but if you want to be pedantic like then the isle of Quel’Danes and the Tanaan Jungle can’t count either as they wear included in their relevant expansions on release but not accessible.
@@Zabzim silithus was not added, it was always there, it was just updated, also vanilla isnt an expansion.
I love ulduar because the enhancement shaman set that drop had so much hit on it i could actually replace a hit gem or two with something else ... Expertise.
man i love wow.
I wish we knew more about the cancelled Vrykul and Frost Troll Raids.
Would love for Blizz to acknowledge the South Park WoW episode and put in a toy called "The Sword of a Thousand Truths".
they already acknowledged it in the Slayer of the Lifeless weapon in Naxx 25 having the flavor text "Foretold by Salzman."
@@neelarai971 But still, we should have the Sword of a Thousand Truths as a toy, if not a Legendary weapon.
I know people love Grizzly Hills (and rightfully so), but I was always a Scholazar Basin & Storm Peaks guy.
Sholazar basin has great music.
3:07 sooo am i having a stroke or does hiru say "naxxaramas and onxias lair?"
I used to have a toon I RPed as a gnome bar tender.
People were *_very_* confused when I’d offer - and then give them - Aged Dalaran wine when the expac hadn’t been out a year. Always laughed IC and said “I have my ways.” Added to the mystique of Bizzlecrank Imports, LLC, heh…..
Yeah, a Cask of legendary wine could definitely help with surviving retail wow.
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Ah, the good old days when I tanked all the way to ICC Heroic as a Frost DK dual wielder... Oh, the memories...
Still waiting for those new dances and "destructible buildings", Blizzard. NO I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!
There technically are with the pvp like wintergrasp
The wintergrasp building has sections that are destructible and must be destroyed for the offense to win lol
I always heard people say all DK specs could tank but personally I never actually saw anyone tank as unholy.
Was really good on the spellcaster bosses, especially sindragosa.
Unholy tank is bis for any boss with heavy magic damage. Problem is blood dks are only a mild downgrade for those but massively better for EVERYTHING else.
Unholy was god tier on magic based fights.
The most prevalent example I have was on Hodir in Ulduar.
Hodir would cast Frozen Blows which I don’t recall the EXACT specific effect of, but the way I remember it was like this:
Hodir would melee attack as Frost damage (bypassing armor) and the damage taken by the tank would get copied to everybody in the raid as an AoE.
An Unholy DK had the right set of skills and anti-magic absorption to basically negate this entire mechanic every time it was active due to how short the CD on Anti-Magic Shell was.
I was an unholy tank. It was super fun. :)
Grizzly Hills music is so relaxing
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a buddy of mine bought a cask at the start of wotlk classic. we ended up with beaked to celebrate our LK kill. i had no idea that existed before that.
This dude actually said "Fah-Jord"!!!!!! Incredible.
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I played the wotlk beta back in the days. You were able to use the flying vihicles at the beginning of the beta. But everytime ppl started to use them, the whole server started to be super super laggy and had many crashes.
After a while they deleted it and the beta servers were much better playable. My guess is that these flying vihicles caused to much server stability problems and so they deleted it for good.
Um if somebody was caught exploiting WG would blizzard allow it if it meant being able to patch the game more quickly? I found 9 possible exploits over 6 weeks that blizzard patched after 6 months. Only i knew how to use them and I never got in trouble.
For the record none of them involved other players or had any effect on game play. I liked seeing exactly what a demo could do and where i could drive it.
Never thought I'd see hiru reference SWG in a video. Best MMO ever.
I'm continuously amazed by your in-depth knowledge of all the obscure intricacies this game holds Hiru.
Thank-you so very much, for all your services to our 'little (ahem) community' !
As someone who mains Ret they are a hero class in pre-patch.
I was excited about how they were originally going to release Death Knights, I then was over the moon when they said all races and at the time I had maybe three characters and was looking at the male Draenei as a fourth. I made a paladin and leveled him to get him ready for his downfall, so when they changed their mind I was bummed that was some cool RPing in a very 'make your own' rp fun game at the time. Though looking back if they kept it, it would be annoying to do each time you wanted to roll a DK after they lifted the one per server rule.
I actually did something similar to this in that I took an old character from my wotlk private server and remade him as a DK in wrath classic, he was an Orc warrior named Grunkst
I'm still convinced there's an underside to Outland.
You mean something hidden or straight underground?
@@Heron11177 No like, if you flip Outland upside down its right there.
Definitely preferred Wrath's quantity over quality raid philosophy. Of course they have the bangers Ulduar/ICC like the vid mentioned but I don't think it's harmful that they had a bunch of other good to okay to blah raids in there. In later expacs they really doubled down on less raids but increasing the quality of said raids which misses the mark for me because no matter how amazing a raid is people still get bored of running it for the 26th time.
Variety really is the spice of life.
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and Hiru continues the trend of mispronouncing weird words
It is tradition.
You can't have high expectations from someone who unironically likes sylvanas.
The wine thing is actually really clever. Man I miss the old Blizzard...
This channel fills the hole in my heart where Madseason once occupied
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Unknown side of one of the most epic expansions ever!
I stopped playing gnerally in Wotlk but kept watching videos about the lore and interesting facts. Now i`m so fucking in love that Wotlk Classic is back so i can actually relate somehow to those same videos!
I really wanted to play WotLK back in the day, but I didn't had an oppurtunity. Sadly, but I don't have any motivation nor plenty time to play it in 2022 😟. However I am happy for people who will play this version of WoW.
I was part of the WotLk beta back in the day and I remember how broken DKs were. I was just a kid back then and I had no idea how to play the class. I just picked talents that sounded cool and when I dueled anyone who wasn’t a DK, I literally never went below 90% health. It really felt like cheating. A DK dueling another DK was an endless fight.
They were broken all the way up until the cata pre patch honestly haha and even then didn't fall off until an xpac later. The removal of armor penetration killed my favourite spec, blood dk dps
Wasn't there meant to be a troll raid too?
As a healer during wrath when it was current, blood tanks in the beginning were the worst. They could never hold aggro, and their health pools would fluctuate so much it was annoying to keep up the rest of the group because you didn't know when they were going to get a regen of sorts.
I miss the ability to change aura for deathknights, being able to play blood with unholy aura on for solo leveling was great or being able to flip to slightly tanky blood aura for unholy for the same reasons was great
Raegwyn era was nuts for sure...
Frost aura increases threat, still pretty ridiculous how they are design
Strand of ancients was fun. Fight me! And It's not just ulduar. It was we got naxx(amazing) then we got ulduar (the best) then ICC easily a top ten raid imo
I love these videos
Mimiron's fire mechanic burnt my laptop's FPS... My CPU was 95-105 celsius...
How did I get past by those wines!? Hahahshshshshs I never knew about them
The best example for how OP DKs were at launch, would be the time I beat three of them one or two levels higher than me during leveling my own. How does that prove anything?
Simple: they had NO idea what a DK could even do to survive a hard fight, because they had never encountered one. Meanwhile all that was special about me, was my testing out all of the abilities beforehand and at least somewhat knowing how to use them. I managed to kill all of them multiple times as they zerged against me simply by using all of the insane CDs you could stagger to allow for regen windows... randomly, when my passive blood specc healing failed to keep me at max health.
In short, the only way you could lose as a DK, was to not even notice that you aren't SUPPOSED to always beat everything without effort.
Yeah I had two similar experiences
1. Watching my brother in law play one irl by death gripping someone and LITERALLY just mashing down 1-4 wildly on the keyboard (not even AWARE of the global cool down) in AV and topping damage
2. Leveling my mage at 73 going into dragon blight and killing an 80 dk who jumped me with a death grip without taking a point of damage (ice barrier)
Two well played DKs at launch against each other were almost as bad as two paladins fighting each other, the fight *never* ends.
@@ekscalybur If I remember correctly, I held out about 10 minutes against those three, only ever falling below 50% once during that time, so I can definitely believe that.
Blood is actually the best tank and the Toughtness talent you mentioned on frost tank is must have for all 3 tank specs but nice video :-)
No, it's not. Blood became on par with the other specs only in the ICC patch. At launch, Unholy was by far the best spec, then it was nerfed and Frost became slightly better. Blood had the huge downside of needing to be hit and expertise capped, otherwise you'd see your Death Strikes miss or get dodged or parried, and find yourself proper fucked. All other tanks (including the other DK specs) only needed to get defense capped and then spec avoidance and mitigation, and not worry about the offensive stats; Blood however didn't have that luxury.
It was only with the Firelands patch (if I'm not remembering it wrong and it was even later, the DS patch) when Blood got a breath of fresh air in terms of Death Strike activating its mastery shield on cast, even when it missed or got dodged / parried.
@@mihaitha i mean who cares about death strike. You dont even care about hit rating or exp... all you need is stamina and brain to press icy touch. One icy touch is as strong as taunt and literally spamming that is enough to keep up agro which is like the most important factor of a tank
All 3 specs were good at different things at one point. That’s what made it so unique.
@@smartex5651 right, keeping aggro is the most important factor of a tank, because not dying is like a minor concern. "Tell me you're a crappy tank without telling me you're a crappy tank", right there.
@@mihaitha tanked more 0 buff lods then you did rdf so tell me you play with dogshit healers without telling me youre playing with dogshit healers
You failed to mention that beside having 3 melle dps builds, 3 tanks specs, DK had a ranged dps build aswell connecting Unholy with Frost.
Thats one of the coolest things about wotlk, the simply number of avaible cross builds.
its prononced "Fyord"
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The original design for the death knights rune weapon seems like a cool a idea but in high content it would obviously be bad, but a part of me wish for it as it enhances the CLASS FANTASY!!!!
Just like how warlocks have metamorphis and need to fill their bags with soulshards
5:00 That's not true though? The quest tracker IS going to be in the game, although it's pretty bad compared to stuff like Questie and RestedXP
its not in game, and blizzard hasn't given any ETA when it will be on wrath classic. Btw , what we're talking is the ability to see quest objectives in the world map, which was someting introduced in Wrath
While Wrath had amazing raids it also had absolutely awful ones. Also adding the Argent Tournament counts as adding a new zone.
Not the biggest fan of the sponsor who is just another cash grab crap guide that's worse than even the free alternatives but the video was great.
Surely the mount hyjal raid from TBC was bigger than Ulduar!?
Regions like Canada and Greenland?
The music in Grizzly Hills is played on a nyckelharpa, a Swedish instrument and most of the lore is a rip of from Norse mythology.
Not sure where you get Canada from that.
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Can’t wait to play wrath classic!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, I remember the rage of players if a DK wasn't tanking in Frost, even though they all tank. :P
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While not a big zone, they did add one in Wrath. The Hrothgar's Landing was added with 3.2, just north of Icecrown. It is barely visible on the map, but there are daily quests associated with it. Again, it’s tiny, but it has its own sub map, therefore it is technically a zone added in.
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I do enjoy the video so far, but the word fjord is pronounced as fiyord, as its a Norwegian word.
If you want to speak norwegian you should say fjur
@@Gallaharax Yeah. I've heard my brother say it, given he's on a two-year streak on Duolingo learning Norwegian.
@@exxor9108 cant really learn a language in duolingo
Wow you started off with Grizzly Hills music. I wont play classic wotlk, but man, youre making it irresistible. Well played.
Yum.
It's so funny to me that the wow community loves ulduar, I hated that raid (thematically)
I can’t wait for Wrath Classic release. I also can’t wait for how much Blizzard is going to mess it up like every other major release they have.
everything they have done with wrath classic has been great so far. hop off the blizz hate train.
@@sneaksies8931 I think you misunderstood when I said mess up. I meant that every release is riddled with tons of gamebreaking exploits, which is the basis of my channel.
Hearthstone got the rune gameplay feature but retail didn't. Let me repeat that, HEARTHSTONE, a card game, got a mechanic that was meant for Blizzards mainline game, whilst the mainline game got a neutered version of the system. Incredible incompetence.
If you are trying wow classic for the first time I emplore you don't fucking use something like rested exp all you will achieve is ruining your experience
I am actually unable to watch this video because Grizzly Hills music on the background makes me cry
Are you mad? Blood was THE BEST dps spec for DKs, I could tank AND top ICC dps charts at the same time!
Oh god I remember when people said frost was tank for Dk I just laughed at them.
15:04 why would Shadowmourne be a low level iitem(lv30) in WotLK?
Wrath technically did add a new zone ... the small island north of Icecrown with those Kvaldir guys that murdered a ton of Tuskarr.
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background music is a lil loud.. :(
Howling F-YORD, not F-jord. The J in fjord sounds like a Y
blood tanking sucked in wrath, especially late in the expansion when everybody bitched about you not being unholy/frost but the ability to just have an entire swarm of worms around you was really fun
I don’t think Blood tanking sucked in Wrath.
It was absolutely the best tanking spec in ICC.
By that patch, Unholy was their top DPS due to Shadowmourne, and Frost and Unholy were pretty close together otherwise.
Blood was the dominant DPS spec in at least Naxx and Ulduar. I don’t remember if it fell off during ToC or not, but it definitely became the tank spec in ICC and was not viable as a DPS.
Another lie, they had announced, and was on the box, being able to do field repairs, I changed my hunter to blacksmith, just for this reason, so I could have the ability to repair guild members, both while questing, as well as extra repairs in raids.
In vanilla you technically could be a dps warrior or a dps paladin but, in raids you were kind of pidgin holed into tank and healer.
What other channel do I know your voice from?
WoTLK is such a weird expansion raiding wise, it's a roller coaster. it's weaker tiers are some of the very bottom of the games many many tiers, it's best tiers are some of the peaks, and it just kept.. switching between them.
Obviously there's always variance in raid quality but goddamn you FEEL it in Wrath whereas in most expansions it's usually more like "Eh this raid is slightly better/worse than the last"... well you also felt it in Cata when you had an incredible first and second tier and then fucking Dragon Soul as the last tier, that probably kinda tainted peoples view of that expansion as a whole tbh.
Dragon Soul is the absolute worst. Even at max level in Retail it remains tedious as hell.
I remember this very first trailer LK it made it seem like to have a paladin near/at max level and then shun the light. Also OP 5 DK could go into Ramparts and clear it, so much built in healing, it was a joke.
Rush < Three Days Grace < beastie boys < Guns N Roses < Nirvana < Grizzley Hills soundtrack music
Wotlk was the best addon ever. Im so hyped!
Did.. did you just pronounce Fjord as F-jord with a hard J? Its a nordic word so the J is an I, meaning its "Fee-ord"
The J is actually closer to a Y, so it’s more akin to “fyord”-and only a single syllable.
And people wonder why I got confused when I tried to play a DK for the first time.
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Everyone I know hated Flame Leviathan.
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Did you get through a whole video without mocking the Alliance!?
To be fair, the Alliance, and the people that play, are very mockable.
@@sleazysid253 As are people that think every person playing a certain faction are all the same, whatever faction you’re part of. (:
Dejavoo....
it was actually released 14 years ago
Crazy to think that vehicle raids/quests are so disliked now (I am one of them), but Ulduar is so beloved (I am also one of them).
History of Rogue finishing moves and history of night Elf racials please! Day: 60 of asking
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I thought Siege of Orgrimmar was the largest raid of the game smh
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Didnt that top island in northrend get added later
Just a small part of just one or two quests in Trial of The Crusader. Wouldn't consider a new zone, specially because you could literally skip that island
did you really forget icc 0o
WoTLK just made you wait for a year per patch / new raid.. and naxx was completely undertuned and lasted for way too long
(it was the first and only raid I fell asleep in as a resto druid(literally!!! I went through the portal to the nax drake and fell asleep during the fight) sometime around 3-5 months before Ulduars release. it made me quit wow until after ulduar)
As if dks weren't broken enough on launch. Thank God they didn't do the runeforge 1.0
Fjord = Feeyord
I wish I didn’t have a job
I used to argue that Blood DPS was the optimal DPS spec - good single target damage, consistent and good cleave damage, and, most importantly, you didn't die. Your self sustain was crazy and healers didn't have to worry about saving you from your mistakes. A DPS that is alive does alot more damage than a dead DPS.
People are too focused on brute numbers and how easy it is to do damage as class. Blood DK was a monster in PVP and, as you said, had a decent single target damage
But "you are playing it wrong" if you are not a min-maxer following That One Guide that's the only true way pf playing your class/spec
One of the reasons I'm happy being a casual is because how I hate those elitist snobs
Man…
That original Runeforging system sounds like a really cool idea, but I agree that it probably would not have worked well in practice.
Wtf did he call Onyxia? No sir..... No.
35 bucks for 1-80 guide, damn
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Forgot Hrothgar's Landing as a new WotLK zone (not a huge zone but a zone nonetheless) and that the entire Azjol-Nerub zone was scrapped
god why bring up cata was such cash grab for half the stuff to be reworked next dlc
"Blood was the weakest of the 3 for dps"; it certainly wasn't when massive amounts of ARP where introduced. It was the top DK dps spec the closer you reached to 100% ARP.
It shined late Ulduar (especially with Thorim's ARP trinket), and was the best DK dps spec in ICC as you approached 100% ARP.
Edit: Miiight have gotten the raid tiers mixed up, it's been a while. But Blood definitely had a few top tier spots in Wrath.
You are so so wrong. Unholy is the best DK dps specc in endgame wrath. It outperformes Blood Dps by such a large margin it's not even funny. Especiall once you get your shadowmourne. Frost is also decent but it's only really picked up for the melee haste raidbuff. The 100% Arp Cap also doesn't matter as an argument because that also meant, that other classes were able to reach Arp Cap as well. Which includes Fury Warrys, who, again, outperform Blood Dks, as they were the top Dps in late wrath overall, alongside fire mages. And in third places I would put unholy DK.
So hiru ist absolutely right when it comes to blood beeing the weakest Dps specc for DK. What he ist wrong about however, is the tanking. Blood is the best tanking specc, or rather a blood-frost hybrid, as you wouldn't go all 51 Points into blood but only Like 40ish and then the rest into Frost.
@@mythse7en805 First I said top DK dps spec, I don't know why you added fury warriors.
Second, I raided when Wrath was the active expansion. I was in a top 50'ish guild (our HLK kill was around 52~ world or something along those lines). Blood DK's where amazing at the time, and where the top DK DPS spec when ICC was active.
Third, Classic =/= Vanilla. Classic Wotlk is running on an end expansion patch, 3.3.5 to be specific, which is the LAST patch that retail wrath used. This is post ARP nerfs and a lot of changes to DK's and other classes. You can't compare top DPS specs on Classic which is running on 3.3.5 to something that happened in Vanilla, especially with the dozens (if not hundreds) of class changes over the years that wrath was out.
Unholy probably became the best DK dps spec when the ARP nerf hit (blood was almost 100% physical dmg, so was hit pretty hard).
Armor pen was nerfed before Icc came out my guy. You stated twice now that Blood was the best DK dps in Icc which ist simply not true. It is outperformes by a different DK specc, unholy, which is not an Arp specc, AND it is outperformes by a different Arp class. The reason why I brought up Fury Warriors ist because you brought up the Arp as an Argument. In Icc Blood is a meme specc. Why would you ever bring a blood DK to a heroic lich king if you could bring another Fury instead? You wouldn't. Only thing a blood DK would be good for is to give his hysteria to the strongest Fury, that's just the sad reality
@@mythse7en805 I wish I had my logs from then (and Warcraftlogs went that far back) but I might have gotten the raid wrong.
Maybe it was TOGC or Ulduar that they where really good, but I definitely remember a lot of Blood dk's on our server (US-Arthas) with Shadowmourne's and super high ARP getting amazing parses at the time.
I played a fury warrior so my viewpoint might be biased, I'll ask around my old guildies if they kept any of the old logs and any boss kill videos.
Edit: I just checked the world first LK heroic 25 kill, Paragon used 2 frost and 1 unholy dk in their kill.
It was definitely not the best DPS spec in ICC by a large margin.
At that point, it had been left behind dramatically by Unholy and Frost.
I mained a DK throughout the entire expansion. Blood DPS was by far the best spec during Naxx at the time.
I can’t remember if and when Frost and Unholy actually overtook it specifically. I remember desperately trying to cling to Blood DPS as long as I possibly could just due to sheer loyalty, but I remember swapping specs to Frost during ICC and doing a crap ton more DPS.
I believe at some point, Unholy outshone Blood at DPS and Frost was still meme garbage tier until the ICC patch came out.
Blood probably fell off around ToC, and it was dead by ICC.