Hello there; enjoying your video...as always. Thanks to you and staff for letting me be apart of Honda Hoarders. I've been fortunate enough to have a friend who sold me an '86 200X, '85 350X, and he threw in a pretty ratty '85 250SX...so this winter I've pulled them in to my farm shop and going through them, which leads me to my point, both X's are really nice and mostly OG (350 completely), but they need "sprucing up", which I love doing (you should see my father's and my collection of 12 John Deere tractors, 2 combines & trucks). I've been wracking my brain on how to clean up the tarnished, rusty, weathered worn metals on the trikes, low and behold, this video of yours popped up on my youtube feed last night....I like it! Great idea. I'm wanting to do my axles too...just curious on your experiences, if any, with powder-coating metals, like shifters, brake pedals, foot pegs, and even an axle with a silver?
Hello! I'm glad you found Honda Hoarders, and my channel! Thanks for watching! So, just to be clear (and I'm sure you know what I'm about to say, but this is for those that may not understand), this is only one step in the clean up process. To run your hardware through a tumbler, or blast cabinet, or wire wheel will strip of the old plating and make it vulnerable to rusting worse than before, so the next step is to do some searching to find a place that will plate the hardware after you clean it and prep it. Regarding powder coating, axles, I'm not a big fan of that mainly because it can chip and it won't take many rides before it's chipped up. That would bother me. But there are plating shops that will make it look factory again (or close to it). That's the route I would go. On my 250R build, I plated the shifter, brake pedal, kicker. I've powder coated many foot pegs though. Stuff like grab bars and brake levers though, when they came black from Honda, they were black zinc plated. You can still find places to do that.
Preston, when I got back into 3wheelers over 20 years ago, I began collecting hardware. I have a local metal finisher I found and the first load of hardware I took to him in raw condition, my metal finisher tumbled the first load and I was not very satisified so I went to Harbor Freight and bought the 18lb tumbler. I bought the same media you have and tumbled the shit out of it. Needless to say it didn't get all the nooks and crannies especially bolt threads and the recess in the bolt heads so what I ended up doing is running all the hardware I want to plate through my pressure blast cabinet one handful at a time. It was very time consuming but the after plating, the result was almost perfect. I run a #6 glass bead in my blast cabinet. Right now I have a container with over 80 lbs of hardware that will go to the metal finisher very soon but before it goes, I will run all of it through my blast cabinet one handfull at a time. I'll probably spend about 4 hours in front of my blast cabinet getting all the old rust, corrosion, and plating off all the hardware before going to the metal finisher.
That is great advice sir. Thank you! I'm going to get my blast cabinet set up like you described and run everything through it first to make the most of it. Thank you for chiming it! It's very much appreciated!
I watched another video where the guy took a bunch of rusty bolts from I think an RC car and soaked them in that rust remover liquid. I was very impressed by the results. It came out without a spec of rust on it. Pretty cool
I do my own zinc plating at home for my restorations. There is a bit of an art to it, it’s taken me such a long time to perfect it. Yep you are right in the prep being so important. I run mine through hydrochloride acid to remove all the rust and crud. Then I wire wheel and pickle again in acid/water mix and then it goes into the bath. It’s very time consuming but it makes for a proper restoration. Thanks for the video man.
I like your idea...I'm experimenting with using rust removers and acids myself...how do you prevent flashing in the end? I've dumped baking soda right into the acid when all the rust is off, I've put them in a bath of baking soda and water, and I still have problems with flashing. What's your process? I'm working in a large heated/insulated farm shop too, so its always dry and warm.
@@EDBZ28I never let it sit in the air longer than it needs too. As soon as it comes out of the acid pickle it goes into a detergent bath and is then cleaned with a tooth brush. It stays in there until I’m ready to put it in the bath. It gets a quick dip in fresh water and then goes into the bath. I’ve never had a problem with flash rusting myself.
I did my own zinc plating as well, some of the small pieces.I bought a small Caswell kit and ended up getting a power source and learning the mathematics of how much amps per surface area.
It came out WAY easier than I was expecting. I must have been pretty close to getting it off but I'm happy I got it off regardless!! I had an 87 200X axle that the brake rotor mount wouldn't come off... I'm wondering if I could have done this trick with that! I ended up cutting it off...
OMG your killing me with all this Honda Bike videos, lol, I bought one of them HF vibrators and have yet to get to use it, its nice to see its results... Great videos, thanks for your videos and your time...
Great update. I've got one of those tumblers but I've only used it a couple times. I need to dust that thing off. I'm thinking a good soak in Evaporust prior to the tumbler might be a pretty quick/ easy process flow.
@@ThisOldTrike I hear you lol I purchased zinc strips and electrical parts to try to do some plating in the next few weeks. I believe id like to try caswell chromate too.
What I would be doing is talking with Mike palmgren and see if he can cut off the rotted metal and TIG weld in New pieces.... I had my buddy at a race car shop do that to a lt250r lower frame rails. Never had a problem after. And it was a frame up restoration back in 2005-06 . Back when you can get almost every part.
All the little stuff that people forget about on a full bike build. Every single nut, bolt, washer etc etc etc
Yup! The attention to detail needs to be there or all the unfinished parts will just stand right out.
Hello there; enjoying your video...as always. Thanks to you and staff for letting me be apart of Honda Hoarders. I've been fortunate enough to have a friend who sold me an '86 200X, '85 350X, and he threw in a pretty ratty '85 250SX...so this winter I've pulled them in to my farm shop and going through them, which leads me to my point, both X's are really nice and mostly OG (350 completely), but they need "sprucing up", which I love doing (you should see my father's and my collection of 12 John Deere tractors, 2 combines & trucks). I've been wracking my brain on how to clean up the tarnished, rusty, weathered worn metals on the trikes, low and behold, this video of yours popped up on my youtube feed last night....I like it! Great idea. I'm wanting to do my axles too...just curious on your experiences, if any, with powder-coating metals, like shifters, brake pedals, foot pegs, and even an axle with a silver?
Hello! I'm glad you found Honda Hoarders, and my channel! Thanks for watching! So, just to be clear (and I'm sure you know what I'm about to say, but this is for those that may not understand), this is only one step in the clean up process. To run your hardware through a tumbler, or blast cabinet, or wire wheel will strip of the old plating and make it vulnerable to rusting worse than before, so the next step is to do some searching to find a place that will plate the hardware after you clean it and prep it. Regarding powder coating, axles, I'm not a big fan of that mainly because it can chip and it won't take many rides before it's chipped up. That would bother me. But there are plating shops that will make it look factory again (or close to it). That's the route I would go. On my 250R build, I plated the shifter, brake pedal, kicker. I've powder coated many foot pegs though. Stuff like grab bars and brake levers though, when they came black from Honda, they were black zinc plated. You can still find places to do that.
@@ThisOldTrike good advice and it means something, coming from you...thanks for your response.
Absolutely love the video and the update on that and I love the lives. Can’t wait to see some more videos.
Thank you very much man! The videos will keep coming!
Preston, when I got back into 3wheelers over 20 years ago, I began collecting hardware. I have a local metal finisher I found and the first load of hardware I took to him in raw condition, my metal finisher tumbled the first load and I was not very satisified so I went to Harbor Freight and bought the 18lb tumbler. I bought the same media you have and tumbled the shit out of it. Needless to say it didn't get all the nooks and crannies especially bolt threads and the recess in the bolt heads so what I ended up doing is running all the hardware I want to plate through my pressure blast cabinet one handful at a time. It was very time consuming but the after plating, the result was almost perfect. I run a #6 glass bead in my blast cabinet. Right now I have a container with over 80 lbs of hardware that will go to the metal finisher very soon but before it goes, I will run all of it through my blast cabinet one handfull at a time. I'll probably spend about 4 hours in front of my blast cabinet getting all the old rust, corrosion, and plating off all the hardware before going to the metal finisher.
That is great advice sir. Thank you! I'm going to get my blast cabinet set up like you described and run everything through it first to make the most of it. Thank you for chiming it! It's very much appreciated!
I watched another video where the guy took a bunch of rusty bolts from I think an RC car and soaked them in that rust remover liquid. I was very impressed by the results. It came out without a spec of rust on it. Pretty cool
Yeah, it's pretty impressive how well that stuff cleans!
I do my own zinc plating at home for my restorations. There is a bit of an art to it, it’s taken me such a long time to perfect it. Yep you are right in the prep being so important. I run mine through hydrochloride acid to remove all the rust and crud. Then I wire wheel and pickle again in acid/water mix and then it goes into the bath. It’s very time consuming but it makes for a proper restoration. Thanks for the video man.
Thank you for the very thorough comment Matt! I'm going to keep working and testing and see what I come up with! Thank you for the tips!
I like your idea...I'm experimenting with using rust removers and acids myself...how do you prevent flashing in the end? I've dumped baking soda right into the acid when all the rust is off, I've put them in a bath of baking soda and water, and I still have problems with flashing. What's your process? I'm working in a large heated/insulated farm shop too, so its always dry and warm.
@@EDBZ28I never let it sit in the air longer than it needs too. As soon as it comes out of the acid pickle it goes into a detergent bath and is then cleaned with a tooth brush. It stays in there until I’m ready to put it in the bath. It gets a quick dip in fresh water and then goes into the bath. I’ve never had a problem with flash rusting myself.
I did my own zinc plating as well, some of the small pieces.I bought a small Caswell kit and ended up getting a power source and learning the mathematics of how much amps per surface area.
@@mariomessinese5287very interesting. I’m completely clueless of the process. I’ll UA-cam it. Thanks
Love the DIY puller ! Great video. I’m spending a lot of time at the wire wheel! Guess it’s time to go to HF.
It came out WAY easier than I was expecting. I must have been pretty close to getting it off but I'm happy I got it off regardless!! I had an 87 200X axle that the brake rotor mount wouldn't come off... I'm wondering if I could have done this trick with that! I ended up cutting it off...
OMG your killing me with all this Honda Bike videos, lol, I bought one of them HF vibrators and have yet to get to use it, its nice to see its results... Great videos, thanks for your videos and your time...
Thank you for taking the time to watch! Makes it worth it!
@@ThisOldTrike I'm hooked on your channel, it's the same reason I make videos, it's fun to share, plus I always learn something new about Hondas......
Awesome brother
Thank you sir!!
Great update. I've got one of those tumblers but I've only used it a couple times. I need to dust that thing off. I'm thinking a good soak in Evaporust prior to the tumbler might be a pretty quick/ easy process flow.
You're probably right sir. I'm going to keep experimenting, and if you're nice, maybe I'll share the results!
@@ThisOldTrike 🤣Please share sir. I am not worthy!
I see the 4snows and wet floor somebody was playing in the snow
That's your boy Bennett. He's hungry!
@ThisOldTrike nice
put the tumbler on a timer for at night if you dont want it to run all night
I have so much hardware to prep... this thing will be running for weeks.
@@ThisOldTrike I hear you lol I purchased zinc strips and electrical parts to try to do some plating in the next few weeks. I believe id like to try caswell chromate too.
A guy i purchased from restores alod dirt bikes and he uses a 110v cement mixer from harbor freight with sand , ( it tumbles)
That's extremely smart!!!
👍👍👍
It working for me to clean a gas tank with plastic like old gas in there.
That media you mean?
You might get on better with walnut shells 👍
What I would be doing is talking with Mike palmgren and see if he can cut off the rotted metal and TIG weld in New pieces.... I had my buddy at a race car shop do that to a lt250r lower frame rails. Never had a problem after. And it was a frame up restoration back in 2005-06 . Back when you can get almost every part.
Evaporust?
Here
Thanks brother!!