First off, thanks for not having loud distracting background music inserted into your video. The table is a great idea Harbor Freight came up with. Beats their portable folding ones.
Northern Tool has been carrying this welding table & kit, for quite awhile. Same price during their sales. Also, I attached the short legs first, using the outside bolts only, then attach the longer legs directly onto the frame using the inner bolts. It creates a little stronger mounting point for the longer legs. Cut a piece of 5/8" or 3/4" plywood for the lower leg brace, and then you'll have a shelf to keep the accessories.
I have 2 of the Northern Tool tables set up side by side for a 6 x 2 table that's able to be separated to also make a 4 x 3 table depending on the project,
Maybee if you get 2 tables and double up the tops you'd end up with a 3/8" top when combined maybee then double up the legs etc...Thanks Nate I started putting wheels on or under everything in my Garage and it's Helping me use and organize space also makes cleaning easier.
I also made years ago a welding table of 1/2" steel that was given to me 30X72 that was a steel plate used to cover trenches in roads. I just drill the holes only as I need them not all of them at one time. I've had this table for 20 years and have only 17 holes drilled in it. I have built 4X4s, wrought iron fencing, golf cart frames suspension parts and many other projects and some how 17 holes have worked out fine and I can always just drill more as needed.
Why drill holes????? Everybody else has been welding tabs on tables for over 40 years I have been in the business,,,,,,50 actually ,,,, We did Navy Nuclear NAVSEA 250-1500 and DECAS parts on 1+ thick tables and did not drill once single hole in any of the tables in the shop. - Tack tab,,,,break off.... grind with cup wheel. - Even welded 38,000 pound weldments to positioner tables. (actually did 2 of them for off shore drill rigs) -. Not one single hole drilled anywhere,,,, In case you didn't notice that's a bit beyond a bracket for a winch you are putting on a Jeep. ------ That table is a joke in all respects. FACT - Send it to a wood worker.
@@mathewmolk2089 Many reasons. First, plate steel is not flat. Every high school shop kid knows that. Second, every time you grind those tabs off you further compromise the flatness of the surface. Third, that method requires dedicated clamps, tools and materials for jigs that are used in the interior of the table where open throat clamps can't be used. Those jigs must be repositioned and checked for trueness every time that job has to be repeated, and they cost money and take up storage space. Fourth, it's a waste of welding core, grinding discs, electricity, and tool wear to do all that work that results in zero income. Fifth, the fabricator is wasting precious time in the day welding and grinding on the table instead of building the part, which costs man hours and high labor pay. Doing a job sloppily and incorrectly for 40 years doesn't make you an expert. Everything in your comment suggests not only are you a shoddy fabricator, but you also have a poor attitude and are a constant source of drama and malcontent in a shop. I wouldn't hire you to shine my shoes.
Nice addition to the shop! I've been using receiver tubing under my work benches for years. It's sweet to be able to move a vise, or other draw bar mounted tool, from one bench to another. However, mine don't stick out so that I don't catch my hip while moving around the table. Also, rather than using a hitch pin, I welded a 1/2-13 nut to the bottom of the tubing and then used a 1" long hex head bolt to clamp the draw bar mounted vise in place. I welded a large washer to the head of the bolt to make it easy to tighten or remove by hand. This makes the tool much more solid than having a hitch pin holding it.
As someone who just made their own fixture table out of 1/2" plate and had to buy a mag drill and annular bits etc this is ingenious for someone on a budget. Only disadvantage I'd see is like you said, heat. I'd be afraid of warping this. As an idea I'd just buy this table to use as a template for my fixture holes. Sounds silly but perfectly drilling 2" O.C. holes by the dozens is very difficult without a CNC machine. It took me so much time to even get 79 holes and i need another 50 at least. I loved this video and see myself buying it for the same reason, an auxiliary table.
A laser,,,,or chalk line will o just as well,,,,,,,,But, other then an acorn table all professional shops tack fixture tabs and then break them off and take a cup wheel and grind the table smooth...Ever heard of wedges and dogs?
I'm a hobby woodworker primarily, but I do have the need to weld now and then. Just this weekend I made some lumber rack brackets with my little Titanium 125 Fluxcore welder. This would be an upgrade over throwing the fiberglass blanket over my workbench for sure. I'll keep my eyes peeled for this to become available to be sure!
1:39 you may want to box in the bottom of the legs on the single table. I added casters to my welding table and with any weight, the tabs holding the casters on will bend.
I have started using casters that flip up. Most are rated for hundreds of lbs so roll well. when you want the stability of a regular leg you flip the lever up, the casters fold and the legs are solid on the ground. Best of both worlds.
I have a table similar to that, but I bought mine a few months ago from Amazon. Mine is made by a different company, but everything that you got with yours, I also got with mine. I think it's a great table for a beginner like me. I don't do a lot of welding, I'm still trying to learn how to weld. But think for me, it's great for someone who is just starting to weld. Having all the things that come with the table helps you and saves you time from going out and getting al the clamps and other things.
I wonder if my local store was the initial test market, because I bought this table like 1.5 years ago as my first welding/ fixture table. I have been very pleased with it. Two things I did that I would recommend would be adding a shelf that rests on the bottom horizontal pieces (I keep my welder, small gas bottle, and the clamps/ fixtures on the shelf as I have limited shop space) and also using a countersink deburring bit in a drill to put a very light chamfer on each hole. I found that a lot of them had a slight burr, especially after using the clamps some since they put a side load on it. Since the initial deburr, I haven't had any further issues with the clamps causing the raised edges again.
@@Beef4Dinner22 if you search for it, Google returns HF links but page not found when you open them. I'll keep an eye out. I have a certiflat table and this would be a great addition for those larger projects.
I have had this exact table for a couple years now, from another brand. It isn't a high-end unit, but it does what you need. Just wish they made a slightly larger one too... but bolting several together is a solid solution.
For wood working, you could bolt a plywood top to it, then use the steel holes as a template to get holes in the plywood, which you could then use for clamping. That is a lot of utility for the price.
I do not see a link for the table? Am I just overlooking it? Also, I was unable to find it on the Harbor Freight website. I went to my local Harbor Freight store, and they didn't know what I was looking for.
I just picked one up today, thanks to your video! For anyone wondering, no it is not on the website as of today (10/5/2023). However, the "bad link" had a part number and I asked someone in the store if they could look up part number 59403. Indeed they had ONE in the back, but she said they expect another one later today. So it sounds like they might be trickling in, even though there isn't even a tag for it anywhere near the welding items. Ask nicely, and they just might have one in the back!
Acorn tables are the ultimate for heavy fab work. I used them for years, and you certainly don't need to worry about grounding through them. They are actually designed to tack weld parts to them if needed. Of course, they are 6-8 inches thick and are various dimensions, 3x3. 4x4. 6x6. Whatever you need. And super heavy. But I do think I may have to pick up one or two of these. Good video. Thanks.
I can definitely see harbor freight selling out of these fixture tables quickly! As a future upgrade you might consider installing a solid sheet of thin gauge steel or aluminum on the underside of the table a few inches below the surface with a lip on the front edge. Slope it forward so that any parts that fall through the holes roll toward the "front" and any metal fragments, grindings, etc don't just drop on the floor. Makes for an easy way to sneak a shop vac under the table and vacuum up metal pieces without them all over the floor and caught under the caster wheels.
A BIG BLACK EYE FOR HARBOR FREIGHT I have a Harbor freight TITANIUM FLUX 125 WELDER purchased from Harbor Freight a couple years ago. I am a retired plumbing contractor and backyard hobbyist. I love to build things in my spare time and help friends and neighbors that need something repaired. When I retired and closed my business, I had a stick welding machine but had no convenient place to connect it at my home! It would require an upgrade to my electrical service not worth the trouble and expense! When I saw a couple reviews on UA-cam for this Titanium 125 welder, I thought that would be the way to go. I already had a 110 Volt 30 Amp circuit to my workshop! It took me a while to get adjusted to the flux wire welding. I built a minibike from scrap pipe I had left over from the plumbing shop. The welder allowed me to make other things and make repairs for others I wouldn’t be able to do without it. In the middle of my last project, I cut a couple pieces of metal and got ready to weld them and when I pushed the button on the welder, nothing happened! It was dead! The fan did not come on but the light on the ON/OFF indicated there was power to the welder. I checked the manual for a reset button or a fuse and found no mention of either. So, I called the Harbor Freight 800 number and was told there was no repair for this welder. Harbor Freight has no repair facility, and no support is available. I was told by two different tech reps there is no schematics or parts list available from the factory where this is manufactured. “It is not worth getting it repaired and cheaper to go purchase a new one!” If you purchase this welder or many other things from Harbor Freight You only have 3 Months Warranty. It is considered disposable after that! All the reviews and discussion I have read about HARBOR FREIGHT I have never seen anything about their total lack of support for their products! I didn’t even get an “I’m sorry” or any offer for a discount on a new welding machine! I am retired, was an electronics technician in the Navy, active Ham Radio operator and electronics hobbyist. I feel like the electronics in this welding machine is straight forward non computer controlled and any decent electronics tech should be able to repair this given reasonable support. I removed the circuit board from the welder and found where a small component burned of course not knowing the component value or purpose will make it difficult to replace. Providing a schematic and parts list is a very inexpensive form of support that should be a minimum requirement. Their claim to revenue of 7 Billion Dollars tells me they could afford it! Leland Cox
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I have been wanting to get a fab table like this, thanks for the review! I wonder about stacking 2 sheets and welding them together to get closer to 1/2 inch?
I looked on every website cannot find one. The funny thing was is that I was looking online all day for welding table, and I just happen to run across your video and started subscribing.
Nice video. I especially appreciate how you discuss your oversights and things you see after the fact that could have been done better. I think this encourages the amateur fabricator to "give it a try" even if they find they need to change things with time. Cheers.
Northern tool tells an almost identical welding table and has two versions of it. one is the "fixed" table like the unit you have in the video. the other is a more substantial table with casters, and a small pegboard to organize all of the fixturing items. I bought the wheeled unit and i'm digging it so far. it also has a low shelf on it that has been proving useful.
As much as I love this, there is no way this isn’t going to warp. I have a raw cut 4x3.5” weld table that’s 3/16” sheet from my local steel yard I made my self and it’s warped with minimal heat input into the table with general and small projects. Especially with out the side skirts which add strength and rigidity. Good in theory, good in price. Don’t expect much long term.
I was thinking of welding on a boarder of maybe 1x2 or 1X3 and some webbing underneath of either 1X2 or 1/8” wall 1X1 (because I have a lot of it) to help stiffen it up.
Why do people overlook merely stacking two of the tops? From 3/16 to 3/8 by simply drilling and plug welding and suddenly you have plate and can use 5/8 fixture table clamps instead of these bolt down clamps.
This is really cool! Nice idea taking a couple of 2 x 3 table tops and making a bigger table! Now you should make a couple of drawers to stash all those pieces that came with the tables!!!
I have 2-3 rolling platforms that I could set one of those on, or attach, this will be a great upgrade. And I appreciate the input on the build quality & accessories.
couple thoughts: 1) this will be perfect for the kid, who is getting into welding as a career. he already bought his welder, cart, bottles, and I got him the other HF welding table, the one that folds up. this would allow him to start practicing fixturing work as well. 2) these would be perfect for appropriately sized fixture setups that, you want to keep configured but don't need all the time. you could just buy one of these tables, make your fixture setup, and leave it alone between projects. 3) this could be great for intermediate fixture setups; you're doing a big project with lots of smaller assemblies that are all the same. you set up your fixture to make those, then use your fancy big expensive table to line them all up for final assembly. 4) having to shim the top to the frame to fix flatness issues... it's HF. It's $170. It's worth the hassle. :D 5) for your receiver idea... put in mounts under the table to store the tools. convenient storage, and it'll help add mass (as if you need it!)> 6) then you'll need an integrated power strip for some of the tools to plug in. :D
This is a fantastic idea. I've been waiting for HFT to come out with a dog hole style welding table for a long time. I have never liked the little slotted folding welding table they have carried forever. Huge fan of HFT. That store has evolved with their products.They get a bad rap. Awesome video!!!
Yeah the old one is garbage. I bought it couple years ago and it’s, well it does what it’s meant to but that’s about it haha. Maybe garbage is too harsh, it’s just small and the little table is easy to tip and wobble.
A folding version would be awesome. Also, the 2” trailer receiver is awesome, I have one bolted to the bottom of my workbench surface and I have my bench vise and bench grinder set up to be used that way.
@@mvorn44 I do too, and I replaced the top with two pieces of 3/16” steel. Works well enough, and I can even still open/close the top, but it’s pretty heavy and doesn’t have the fancy fixturing holes this one does.
This would work for any or several types of workbenches. The top is made from anything from a single sheet of 1/8 inch hardboard or a piece of carpet to keep pieces from falling through the holes to complex fixtures in a manufacturing plant. I can see it being used for fixtures to do repetitive glue-ups in wood. With all these tops and fixtures hanging on the wall waiting to be used.
And to help keep it free of glue, I use a roll of craft paper that is hung on one end of the table. Easy peasy. Just pull it up over the table top as long as you need to cover. Tear it off and throw it away when it's too funky.
Level your Aux table with your Fab table. Add a receiver hitch to your Aux table with a pinch bolt on the bottom as well as the spring clip holes. Add pinch bolts to the bottoms of the receivers on your Fab table. Now you can use a piece of square tubing to fix your Aux table to your Fab table in a locked but adjustable way so you can use fixturing on both tables for large parts like say a 6 foot by 10 foot roof rack or other large project.
The usefulness of this larger table, or some smaller joinable tables, should not be underestimated. Personally I would do the larger one like you have an have a smaller one or two (at the same level of course. ha ha) that can be bolted on as needed to make the L shaped bench. As you say, some wooden or steel toppings/small item boxes with dowls would be ideal since this also prevents slippage. Very very useful for small garage workshops. Great video Nate!
I bought the CertiFlat 24x34 table and I'd say that the Harbor Freight one is it's direct competitor. The CertiFlat is $120 more and doesn't come with accessories but, one thing to consider is that the CertiFlat has a rib system that makes sure it stays flat. Looks like the HF one sits on (what I'm guessing) is low gauge tube.
Yeah, i have the 24" x 48" Certiflat and it's perfect. You can adjust everything for flatness before welding the ribs, and the joints are designed to not put a warping force The legs are also a lot heavier (1 1/2” x 1/8” square tube) and weld to the top.
@@Peter-od7op with welded ribs. That's a very different animal. The result is much more rigid than flat plate. The ribs are several inches deep and welded in an interlocking egg crate design.
Okay, if you swap the top later, one option is doubling the thin tops to double the thickness. Also, if you upgrade to a thicker plate later, use a new one of these plates as your template to layout the holes.
If you're going so far as cutting your own holes I recommend looking at the jig Brandon Lund makes when making his own fixture table from half inch steel.
Great video! Would it be possible to bolt 2 or 3 together to get the thickness you need. I do realize its not going to be as strong as a single thicker sheet but if the holes line up it might be a cheap easy alternative to opting for the thicker steel table.
Same thing as sold at Northwest Tool over the past few years. It was similar price on sale and included same accessories. I added some light angle ( old bed frame tacked corner out) across the underside between rows of holes to reduce any warpage.
I've got an outside work bench that I built 4'x10' w/ a 1/4" steel top but I haven't wanted to bolt my vise to the top, so the receiver idea for me was priceless, awesome
Very impressed with this table, but it must be April 1st or something like that.... I can't locate it on the HFT website. I tried searching for a welding table and I also tried "Titanium" brand items. I'm really confused, where did you get it?
I bought a similar welding table in the UK and added a Flexispot height adjustable desk frame. It's amazing being able to tweak the table to the perfect height. Because it's so versatile I use it as a chop-saw stand, bandsaw stand, in-feed and out-feed table as well as a welding table.
He should have tested that, but my guess is pretty darn accurate. And now you mention laminate, gluing them together would really increase the stiffness. Another, labor intensive, way would be to insert tubular spacers and weld them in place
I bought a similar one from Northern Tools a month ago. I wish i knew this one was coming. The Northern table top is stitch welded to the upper frame and a little warped from it. Not as flat as the HF one.
Lol. For the first time in years, I'm actually talking about what to do with it. I'm throwing around a few ideas that would be sweet after I build the TJ next year. But it's not going anywhere far in the meantime, just on the side of the property.
I’m now interested in doing what you have done. I currently have a wheeled bench about the size of what you have built which rolls under my 16 foot built in bench. I have been using receiver mounted tools for years. My vice, solid stock bender, bead roller, bench grinders and so on have been used that way for a long time. It’s a game changer. I’m building in my 24X24 two car garage where I also park our cars, so everything has to be able to be tucked away when I’m done. I actually got the idea for some of the tucked under storage from a set of Russian nesting dolls my mom has. The receiver idea came from a service vehicle I saw at work one day. Thank you for the down load on this new HF product, I’m going to check it out as soon as it appears at my local store.
I built my own 5’ x 108” 3/4” thick top table. 6x6 1/4” thick legs and I beams for stringers 2600# . Still haven’t finished drilling my holes. Hopefully this winter. Nice table for the money
Have you considered the Langmuir Systems ArcFlat table? I don't have one or anything but I sure have been eyeballing it. I do have their Crossfire Pro CNC plasma table, for a few years now, and it's been excellent for the most part.
I did the same thing when I built my fixture table top from Weldtablles, on adding a receiver for a vise. what I didn't like was how loose the receiver was, so I welded a 9/16 nut to the top of the tube and used a short bolt to take the slop out, and hold the vise or attachment with my chop saw or bandsaw on it
I drilled my 30"x60" table a couple years ago. 2" on center and it took forever. It was around 430 5/8 holes. 8ish hours and 2 roto-brochs later it was worth it.. but took forever😂
@@TLervis I cut out a drill guide on my CNC plasma, so I only had to actually layout a couple holes. Like you said.. never again🤣 my next table will be laser cut! I'd rather spend the money than waist the time again!
the hitch receiver is a fantastic idea, especially if you don't have alot of space. I have quite a few tools that I have hitch tubing welded to, and I swap them out on my single vise stand. Yes, it's a little bit of work to swap out tools, but if you don't have alot of room to work, it's fantastic. I suggest adding threaded set screws (welding a nut to the tubing) so that you can snug up the bolts and the tools won't flop around on the receiver tube. the hitch pin keeps them from falling out, but set screws/bolts keep them from flopping around when using them. :)
I am buying some of these. I have a steel bench, but could really use the added space and the hole pattern matches the pattern I have in my wood workbench
I have the Northern Tools fab table. Same table different box. I use it as a work bench from time to time. I use a big piece of cardboard to cover it. Works fine.
I will definitely be buying 1, and quite likely two of these when they get released. I use the folding welding tables they have now with one converted to plasma cutter use. I like the idea of a plywood removable top for use as well.
1 thing i noticed with the table and clamps which are definitely awsome but like most clamps the clamps with this table have flat clamping contacts..it would be nice if the kit came with convex caps that were curved for pipes like the the stubs to lay the pipe on in the peg hole..in the video it shows the clamp holding the pipe and only a 1/16th of that flat clamp contact is holding the pipe, if you had a round piece( magnetized) to pop on that flat round clamp end then you could better clamp a pipe down.. ive tried to weld pipe in the past with a c clamp and the dang pipe would roll 1 way or the other..i didnt weld a lot of it just a piece here and their but always thought if i did more I'd weld a thick curved piece on end of i c clamp just for pipe
Dood. I need that. Totally putting that on my shopping list. I don't need no fireball tools 10K table. That thing would do someone like me just fine. I so love Harbor Freight.
I would of liked to see 1/4" due to all the holes in it. I ran 3/16 on a solid Weld table. I will still probably pick one of these up. Could always buy two and stack the plates to make thicker.
Northern tool has a table exactly like this for about the same price. We bought it for a fixture table and has been great. It would likely warp if you did too much welding on it though
I had 2 from Texas Metalworks and used them for everything. They were great. Whem i get a space and able to replace them i will definitely take a look at these.
I have a piece of cat walk for a welding table. There are no round holes in it, but it has plenty of rectangular holes. Once you get used to working with them, it gives you almost an infinate amount of positions and angles to work with. Its about 24" x 36" and it weighjs as much as a church but its great and was free
First off, thanks for not having loud distracting background music inserted into your video. The table is a great idea Harbor Freight came up with. Beats their portable folding ones.
Northern Tool has been carrying this welding table & kit, for quite awhile. Same price during their sales.
Also, I attached the short legs first, using the outside bolts only, then attach the longer legs directly onto the frame using the inner bolts. It creates a little stronger mounting point for the longer legs.
Cut a piece of 5/8" or 3/4" plywood for the lower leg brace, and then you'll have a shelf to keep the accessories.
Also comes with a wheel kit.
I have the same table from Northern Tool. Great little table & accessories.
I have 2 of the Northern Tool tables set up side by side for a 6 x 2 table that's able to be separated to also make a 4 x 3 table depending on the project,
I have this table from Northern tool. For a fireproof lower shelf I used a piece of heavy wire shelf.
Maybee if you get 2 tables and double up the tops you'd end up with a 3/8" top when combined maybee then double up the legs etc...Thanks Nate I started putting wheels on or under everything in my Garage and it's Helping me use and organize space also makes cleaning easier.
I also made years ago a welding table of 1/2" steel that was given to me 30X72 that was a steel plate used to cover trenches in roads. I just drill the holes only as I need them not all of them at one time. I've had this table for 20 years and have only 17 holes drilled in it. I have built 4X4s, wrought iron fencing, golf cart frames suspension parts and many other projects and some how 17 holes have worked out fine and I can always just drill more as needed.
Why drill holes????? Everybody else has been welding tabs on tables for over 40 years I have been in the business,,,,,,50 actually ,,,, We did Navy Nuclear NAVSEA 250-1500 and DECAS parts on 1+ thick tables and did not drill once single hole in any of the tables in the shop. - Tack tab,,,,break off.... grind with cup wheel. - Even welded 38,000 pound weldments to positioner tables. (actually did 2 of them for off shore drill rigs) -. Not one single hole drilled anywhere,,,, In case you didn't notice that's a bit beyond a bracket for a winch you are putting on a Jeep. ------ That table is a joke in all respects. FACT - Send it to a wood worker.
@@mathewmolk2089why use a fork and spoon to eat when ppl have been eating with just there hands for years! Smh lol
@@mathewmolk2089 Many reasons. First, plate steel is not flat. Every high school shop kid knows that. Second, every time you grind those tabs off you further compromise the flatness of the surface. Third, that method requires dedicated clamps, tools and materials for jigs that are used in the interior of the table where open throat clamps can't be used. Those jigs must be repositioned and checked for trueness every time that job has to be repeated, and they cost money and take up storage space. Fourth, it's a waste of welding core, grinding discs, electricity, and tool wear to do all that work that results in zero income. Fifth, the fabricator is wasting precious time in the day welding and grinding on the table instead of building the part, which costs man hours and high labor pay. Doing a job sloppily and incorrectly for 40 years doesn't make you an expert. Everything in your comment suggests not only are you a shoddy fabricator, but you also have a poor attitude and are a constant source of drama and malcontent in a shop. I wouldn't hire you to shine my shoes.
Nice addition to the shop! I've been using receiver tubing under my work benches for years. It's sweet to be able to move a vise, or other draw bar mounted tool, from one bench to another. However, mine don't stick out so that I don't catch my hip while moving around the table. Also, rather than using a hitch pin, I welded a 1/2-13 nut to the bottom of the tubing and then used a 1" long hex head bolt to clamp the draw bar mounted vise in place. I welded a large washer to the head of the bolt to make it easy to tighten or remove by hand. This makes the tool much more solid than having a hitch pin holding it.
cool idea , thanks for sharing
No one knows what you are talking about.
@@philiprush2462 I know what he's talking about
As someone who just made their own fixture table out of 1/2" plate and had to buy a mag drill and annular bits etc this is ingenious for someone on a budget. Only disadvantage I'd see is like you said, heat. I'd be afraid of warping this. As an idea I'd just buy this table to use as a template for my fixture holes. Sounds silly but perfectly drilling 2" O.C. holes by the dozens is very difficult without a CNC machine. It took me so much time to even get 79 holes and i need another 50 at least. I loved this video and see myself buying it for the same reason, an auxiliary table.
I was thinking the same thing about using as a template, I just bought a mag drill myself.
A laser,,,,or chalk line will o just as well,,,,,,,,But, other then an acorn table all professional shops tack fixture tabs and then break them off and take a cup wheel and grind the table smooth...Ever heard of wedges and dogs?
When is HF supposed to be releasing these tables? I'm not seeing them listed via their website?
Right😂😂😂
Same. Kinda sucks when someone reviews a product that isn’t available.
I've seen them in NE Ohio.
Don’t know for sure but my guess would be the 6th when they put out the coupons for October, if were lucky it will be on sale too!
@@joseHernandez-uu2cx😊😮😢😢😊😊😅😊 4:37
I'm a hobby woodworker primarily, but I do have the need to weld now and then. Just this weekend I made some lumber rack brackets with my little Titanium 125 Fluxcore welder. This would be an upgrade over throwing the fiberglass blanket over my workbench for sure. I'll keep my eyes peeled for this to become available to be sure!
I love my Titanium 125 Fluxcore welder. I'm a carpenter, but sometimes need things welded. That little welder is easy to use & gets the job done.
1:39 you may want to box in the bottom of the legs on the single table. I added casters to my welding table and with any weight, the tabs holding the casters on will bend.
I have started using casters that flip up. Most are rated for hundreds of lbs so roll well. when you want the stability of a regular leg you flip the lever up, the casters fold and the legs are solid on the ground. Best of both worlds.
where did you find them at ? thanks
The new table isn't showing up on HF's website. When will it be available?
I have a table similar to that, but I bought mine a few months ago from Amazon. Mine is made by a different company, but everything that you got with yours, I also got with mine. I think it's a great table for a beginner like me. I don't do a lot of welding, I'm still trying to learn how to weld. But think for me, it's great for someone who is just starting to weld. Having all the things that come with the table helps you and saves you time from going out and getting al the clamps and other things.
FYI, Fireball Tool sells a "Insert Hook Clamp" that designed for 3/16" tables like this. These minimize hole distortion from the clamps.
Excellent video (as of 9/27/23, not shown at HF yet). The flatness, hitch, washer spacer and the height are great takeaways.
I wonder if my local store was the initial test market, because I bought this table like 1.5 years ago as my first welding/ fixture table. I have been very pleased with it. Two things I did that I would recommend would be adding a shelf that rests on the bottom horizontal pieces (I keep my welder, small gas bottle, and the clamps/ fixtures on the shelf as I have limited shop space) and also using a countersink deburring bit in a drill to put a very light chamfer on each hole. I found that a lot of them had a slight burr, especially after using the clamps some since they put a side load on it. Since the initial deburr, I haven't had any further issues with the clamps causing the raised edges again.
@@Beef4Dinner22 if you search for it, Google returns HF links but page not found when you open them. I'll keep an eye out. I have a certiflat table and this would be a great addition for those larger projects.
Not shown online yet. Gonna have to check my local stores to see if they have any. Seems nice for the value
Buy American!
10/18/2023 and its shown online now.
I have had this exact table for a couple years now, from another brand. It isn't a high-end unit, but it does what you need. Just wish they made a slightly larger one too... but bolting several together is a solid solution.
May I inquire what's the name and where you got it
Thanks Teddy
Northern tool sales the same one under the Klutch brand for $200. They have it on sale right now for $170.
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Thank you
I will look right now
For wood working, you could bolt a plywood top to it, then use the steel holes as a template to get holes in the plywood, which you could then use for clamping. That is a lot of utility for the price.
MDF or chipboard for a cheaper option
Thank you
That's exactly what I plan to do.
Any idea when it may become available
Thanks Teddy
I do not see a link for the table? Am I just overlooking it? Also, I was unable to find it on the Harbor Freight website. I went to my local Harbor Freight store, and they didn't know what I was looking for.
Thank you
What a great idea
I'm new to this and appreciate every idea
Thanks again
Teddy
@@billlove6128
I just found this table on HF website but not available at stores yet
I don't seem to find it listed here in central florida
Not listed in Washington yet, either. They said we should see these roll out in a couple weeks.
I just picked one up today, thanks to your video! For anyone wondering, no it is not on the website as of today (10/5/2023). However, the "bad link" had a part number and I asked someone in the store if they could look up part number 59403. Indeed they had ONE in the back, but she said they expect another one later today. So it sounds like they might be trickling in, even though there isn't even a tag for it anywhere near the welding items. Ask nicely, and they just might have one in the back!
Nice. I would like to build one. Do you have a list of materials and lengths. What casters did you use? Any regrets, anything you would change? Thanks
Acorn tables are the ultimate for heavy fab work. I used them for years, and you certainly don't need to worry about grounding through them. They are actually designed to tack weld parts to them if needed. Of course, they are 6-8 inches thick and are various dimensions, 3x3. 4x4. 6x6. Whatever you need. And super heavy.
But I do think I may have to pick up one or two of these.
Good video. Thanks.
What for? You already know better. - If you can't afford an Acorn 1/2" plate minimum is the poor ma's way to go. - This sheet metal thing is a joke.
I can definitely see harbor freight selling out of these fixture tables quickly! As a future upgrade you might consider installing a solid sheet of thin gauge steel or aluminum on the underside of the table a few inches below the surface with a lip on the front edge. Slope it forward so that any parts that fall through the holes roll toward the "front" and any metal fragments, grindings, etc don't just drop on the floor. Makes for an easy way to sneak a shop vac under the table and vacuum up metal pieces without them all over the floor and caught under the caster wheels.
So where is it? I just went to the HF website and couldn’t find it anywhere
Any idea when it will be available cant find it on the website?
I flunked Latin in high school in the '70's, but my shop slogan is "Omnia debet esse rotis!" "Everything must be on wheels!"
Great video. When will it be available at HF? Website doesn't show it.
A BIG BLACK EYE FOR HARBOR FREIGHT
I have a Harbor freight TITANIUM FLUX 125 WELDER purchased from Harbor Freight a couple years ago. I am a retired plumbing contractor and backyard hobbyist. I love to build things in my spare time and help friends and neighbors that need something repaired. When I retired and closed my business, I had a stick welding machine but had no convenient place to connect it at my home! It would require an upgrade to my electrical service not worth the trouble and expense! When I saw a couple reviews on UA-cam for this Titanium 125 welder, I thought that would be the way to go. I already had a 110 Volt 30 Amp circuit to my workshop!
It took me a while to get adjusted to the flux wire welding. I built a minibike from scrap pipe I had left over from the plumbing shop. The welder allowed me to make other things and make repairs for others I wouldn’t be able to do without it.
In the middle of my last project, I cut a couple pieces of metal and got ready to weld them and when I pushed the button on the welder, nothing happened! It was dead! The fan did not come on but the light on the ON/OFF indicated there was power to the welder. I checked the manual for a reset button or a fuse and found no mention of either.
So, I called the Harbor Freight 800 number and was told there was no repair for this welder. Harbor Freight has no repair facility, and no support is available. I was told by two different tech reps there is no schematics or parts list available from the factory where this is manufactured. “It is not worth getting it repaired and cheaper to go purchase a new one!” If you purchase this welder or many other things from Harbor Freight You only have 3 Months Warranty. It is considered disposable after that!
All the reviews and discussion I have read about HARBOR FREIGHT I have never seen anything about their total lack of support for their products! I didn’t even get an “I’m sorry” or any offer for a discount on a new welding machine!
I am retired, was an electronics technician in the Navy, active Ham Radio operator and electronics hobbyist. I feel like the electronics in this welding machine is straight forward non computer controlled and any decent electronics tech should be able to repair this given reasonable support. I removed the circuit board from the welder and found where a small component burned of course not knowing the component value or purpose will make it difficult to replace. Providing a schematic and parts list is a very inexpensive form of support that should be a minimum requirement. Their claim to revenue of 7 Billion Dollars tells me they could afford it!
Leland Cox
Hey nate, what's the item number? I'm not finding it on the website yet. Or have a link?
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I don't see this table on the Harbor Freight website. Can you provide a link?
I don't see these on the site yet. What state are you in ?
Does anyone know the item # to welding table I don’t see it on harbor freight’s website or app?
I was just looking as welll
When is it available in stores or online?
I'm told a couple of weeks, but I'm surprised that they aren't on their website yet
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I have been wanting to get a fab table like this, thanks for the review! I wonder about stacking 2 sheets and welding them together to get closer to 1/2 inch?
I looked on every website cannot find one. The funny thing was is that I was looking online all day for welding table, and I just happen to run across your video and started subscribing.
Nice video. I especially appreciate how you discuss your oversights and things you see after the fact that could have been done better. I think this encourages the amateur fabricator to "give it a try" even if they find they need to change things with time. Cheers.
love the table and the ideas. i don't see it on the website for harbor freight do you have a item number or sku
I can't find it either. It looks identical to the Klutch brand on Amazon though for the same price.
Northern tool tells an almost identical welding table and has two versions of it. one is the "fixed" table like the unit you have in the video. the other is a more substantial table with casters, and a small pegboard to organize all of the fixturing items. I bought the wheeled unit and i'm digging it so far. it also has a low shelf on it that has been proving useful.
As much as I love this, there is no way this isn’t going to warp. I have a raw cut 4x3.5” weld table that’s 3/16” sheet from my local steel yard I made my self and it’s warped with minimal heat input into the table with general and small projects.
Especially with out the side skirts which add strength and rigidity. Good in theory, good in price. Don’t expect much long term.
I was thinking of welding on a boarder of maybe 1x2 or 1X3 and some webbing underneath of either 1X2 or 1/8” wall 1X1 (because I have a lot of it) to help stiffen it up.
I did this with 3tops 1x3 drop in frame we made on casters... works great for stuff like fence gates door frames etc
yup... 3/16" is just to thin for a fixture table. i'd rather have a 1/2"plate that isn't very flat, but would be more stable
Good point on warping, jig table tac welding..
Why do people overlook merely stacking two of the tops? From 3/16 to 3/8 by simply drilling and plug welding and suddenly you have plate and can use 5/8 fixture table clamps instead of these bolt down clamps.
Did they already discontinue it? I don't see this table available on the HF website no matter how i search.
Curious as to why you didn't just bolt the tops to the frame you built and toss the HF frames.
This is really cool! Nice idea taking a couple of 2 x 3 table tops and making a bigger table! Now you should make a couple of drawers to stash all those pieces that came with the tables!!!
Amazon in canada has the same table from vevor for 181 canadian or around 125 us.
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I made those type clamps from the HF cheap clamps and just welded 1/2 bolts to the shafts I had $80.00 clamps for $7.00.
Impressive weld table for a Harbor freight item and wow under 200 bucks I'm definitely impressed
Nice review. I was searching the part # unable to find it. Can you write the part #? thanks.
I have 2-3 rolling platforms that I could set one of those on, or attach, this will be a great upgrade. And I appreciate the input on the build quality & accessories.
couple thoughts:
1) this will be perfect for the kid, who is getting into welding as a career. he already bought his welder, cart, bottles, and I got him the other HF welding table, the one that folds up. this would allow him to start practicing fixturing work as well.
2) these would be perfect for appropriately sized fixture setups that, you want to keep configured but don't need all the time. you could just buy one of these tables, make your fixture setup, and leave it alone between projects.
3) this could be great for intermediate fixture setups; you're doing a big project with lots of smaller assemblies that are all the same. you set up your fixture to make those, then use your fancy big expensive table to line them all up for final assembly.
4) having to shim the top to the frame to fix flatness issues... it's HF. It's $170. It's worth the hassle. :D
5) for your receiver idea... put in mounts under the table to store the tools. convenient storage, and it'll help add mass (as if you need it!)>
6) then you'll need an integrated power strip for some of the tools to plug in. :D
I put a rack under my table to hold TiG wire tubes. Using some PVC pipe and conduit clamps works great and is easy to install.
How’d you get multiple and it doesn’t even show them on the HF website?
This is a fantastic idea. I've been waiting for HFT to come out with a dog hole style welding table for a long time. I have never liked the little slotted folding welding table they have carried forever. Huge fan of HFT. That store has evolved with their products.They get a bad rap. Awesome video!!!
Yeah the old one is garbage. I bought it couple years ago and it’s, well it does what it’s meant to but that’s about it haha. Maybe garbage is too harsh, it’s just small and the little table is easy to tip and wobble.
nothern tool store has already had this table for a while
When is this going to be available? It isn't on the HF website
A folding version would be awesome. Also, the 2” trailer receiver is awesome, I have one bolted to the bottom of my workbench surface and I have my bench vise and bench grinder set up to be used that way.
I have an old Workmate. I think I might figure out a way to replace the top with this.
@@mvorn44 I do too, and I replaced the top with two pieces of 3/16” steel. Works well enough, and I can even still open/close the top, but it’s pretty heavy and doesn’t have the fancy fixturing holes this one does.
This would work for any or several types of workbenches. The top is made from anything from a single sheet of 1/8 inch hardboard or a piece of carpet to keep pieces from falling through the holes to complex fixtures in a manufacturing plant. I can see it being used for fixtures to do repetitive glue-ups in wood. With all these tops and fixtures hanging on the wall waiting to be used.
And to help keep it free of glue, I use a roll of craft paper that is hung on one end of the table. Easy peasy. Just pull it up over the table top as long as you need to cover. Tear it off and throw it away when it's too funky.
Level your Aux table with your Fab table. Add a receiver hitch to your Aux table with a pinch bolt on the bottom as well as the spring clip holes. Add pinch bolts to the bottoms of the receivers on your Fab table.
Now you can use a piece of square tubing to fix your Aux table to your Fab table in a locked but adjustable way so you can use fixturing on both tables for large parts like say a 6 foot by 10 foot roof rack or other large project.
The usefulness of this larger table, or some smaller joinable tables, should not be underestimated. Personally I would do the larger one like you have an have a smaller one or two (at the same level of course. ha ha) that can be bolted on as needed to make the L shaped bench. As you say, some wooden or steel toppings/small item boxes with dowls would be ideal since this also prevents slippage. Very very useful for small garage workshops. Great video Nate!
I don’t see this at my harbor freight. Is it that new?
also, when are they putting this table online?
eta: 59403 is the part number, but it 404's when you try and find it on their site.
I have a vertical 2" receiver on my welding table to plug tools in. Best thing I did years ago along with adding a cheap 5 drawer tool box underneath.
Just add a metal plate spacer in between the casters and your fabbed up table frame to match the height of the little table.
I was thinking the same thing 👍
Great video! I'm on the Habor Freight website and don't see that listed. Do you have an item number or link for it?
I took two of them and mounted them to a 1000lb capacity hydraulic lift table cart. the height adjustment is nice
I've got a lift table cart too- this will happen!
I bought the CertiFlat 24x34 table and I'd say that the Harbor Freight one is it's direct competitor. The CertiFlat is $120 more and doesn't come with accessories but, one thing to consider is that the CertiFlat has a rib system that makes sure it stays flat. Looks like the HF one sits on (what I'm guessing) is low gauge tube.
Yeah, i have the 24" x 48" Certiflat and it's perfect. You can adjust everything for flatness before welding the ribs, and the joints are designed to not put a warping force The legs are also a lot heavier (1 1/2” x 1/8” square tube) and weld to the top.
And is still 3/16 thick
@@Peter-od7op with welded ribs. That's a very different animal. The result is much more rigid than flat plate. The ribs are several inches deep and welded in an interlocking egg crate design.
Don't see on website. Link please
Okay, if you swap the top later, one option is doubling the thin tops to double the thickness. Also, if you upgrade to a thicker plate later, use a new one of these plates as your template to layout the holes.
Brilliant
If you're going so far as cutting your own holes I recommend looking at the jig Brandon Lund makes when making his own fixture table from half inch steel.
Great video! Would it be possible to bolt 2 or 3 together to get the thickness you need. I do realize its not going to be as strong as a single thicker sheet but if the holes line up it might be a cheap easy alternative to opting for the thicker steel table.
Absolutely you can.
Ty i was thinking same stack them.
Where u get table
What’s the link for the table
Same thing as sold at Northwest Tool over the past few years. It was similar price on sale and included same accessories. I added some light angle ( old bed frame tacked corner out) across the underside between rows of holes to reduce any warpage.
Can't find it on the Harbor Freight website
59403
@@BishjamIC 59403 item # doesn't come up. Maybe you have a link?
@@msdegrasse I posted it, but it keeps getting taken down.
@@BishjamIC Rolling out to stores, available now in Lake Charles
I've got an outside work bench that I built 4'x10' w/ a 1/4" steel top but I haven't wanted to bolt my vise to the top, so the receiver idea for me was priceless, awesome
what if you double stack the tops?
It's definitely possible and not a bad idea. Plus, it would still be cheaper than more expensive models
overlap them half onto each other as well
What all comes with that table kit?
I'm going to get one. Instead of getting an expensive just get a friend like this guy with all the tables and skills.
Very impressed with this table, but it must be April 1st or something like that.... I can't locate it on the HFT website. I tried searching for a welding table and I also tried "Titanium" brand items. I'm really confused, where did you get it?
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Great video, thanks!! Do you have any updates on how well this table ad held up?
My Harborfreight DOES NOT have those welding tables AND none of the other stores around me have them ether???
I bought a similar welding table in the UK and added a Flexispot height adjustable desk frame. It's amazing being able to tweak the table to the perfect height. Because it's so versatile I use it as a chop-saw stand, bandsaw stand, in-feed and out-feed table as well as a welding table.
How’s the repeatability of the tops? As in Could you stack/laminate the tops and the holes and edges line up?
He should have tested that, but my guess is pretty darn accurate.
And now you mention laminate, gluing them together would really increase the stiffness.
Another, labor intensive, way would be to insert tubular spacers and weld them in place
When and How mUch are these Tables going to be? There Not Available yet...
I bought a similar one from Northern Tools a month ago. I wish i knew this one was coming. The Northern table top is stitch welded to the upper frame and a little warped from it. Not as flat as the HF one.
It’s a sad day when the low buck diesel truck no longer has a spot in the shop.
Lol. For the first time in years, I'm actually talking about what to do with it. I'm throwing around a few ideas that would be sweet after I build the TJ next year. But it's not going anywhere far in the meantime, just on the side of the property.
@@DirtLifestyle looking forward to seeing the tj and diesel truck get some love again.
@@DirtLifestyle part number on this item could be useful if you have it don’t see it on there website or app? Thanks for the content
Good of you to say, "it's me not the table." Great video and great way to adapt these tables. Thank you.
I’m now interested in doing what you have done. I currently have a wheeled bench about the size of what you have built which rolls under my 16 foot built in bench. I have been using receiver mounted tools for years. My vice, solid stock bender, bead roller, bench grinders and so on have been used that way for a long time. It’s a game changer. I’m building in my 24X24 two car garage where I also park our cars, so everything has to be able to be tucked away when I’m done. I actually got the idea for some of the tucked under storage from a set of Russian nesting dolls my mom has. The receiver idea came from a service vehicle I saw at work one day.
Thank you for the down load on this new HF product, I’m going to check it out as soon as it appears at my local store.
I built my own 5’ x 108” 3/4” thick top table. 6x6 1/4” thick legs and I beams for stringers 2600# . Still haven’t finished drilling my holes. Hopefully this winter. Nice table for the money
Yeah - that was a big help. Looking for follow ups. What I'm hearing is that it would be a good option to just buy extra tops at some point?
Have you considered the Langmuir Systems ArcFlat table? I don't have one or anything but I sure have been eyeballing it. I do have their Crossfire Pro CNC plasma table, for a few years now, and it's been excellent for the most part.
I did the same thing when I built my fixture table top from Weldtablles, on adding a receiver for a vise. what I didn't like was how loose the receiver was, so I welded a 9/16 nut to the top of the tube and used a short bolt to take the slop out, and hold the vise or attachment with my chop saw or bandsaw on it
I drilled my 30"x60" table a couple years ago. 2" on center and it took forever. It was around 430 5/8 holes. 8ish hours and 2 roto-brochs later it was worth it.. but took forever😂
That was my original plan a few years back. I never got around to actually building it... maybe it was the thought of drilling so many holes lol
You beat the 375 holes that I drilled with a mag drill. I made a jig that helped speed up the process. Never again though.
@@TLervis I cut out a drill guide on my CNC plasma, so I only had to actually layout a couple holes. Like you said.. never again🤣 my next table will be laser cut! I'd rather spend the money than waist the time again!
the hitch receiver is a fantastic idea, especially if you don't have alot of space. I have quite a few tools that I have hitch tubing welded to, and I swap them out on my single vise stand. Yes, it's a little bit of work to swap out tools, but if you don't have alot of room to work, it's fantastic. I suggest adding threaded set screws (welding a nut to the tubing) so that you can snug up the bolts and the tools won't flop around on the receiver tube. the hitch pin keeps them from falling out, but set screws/bolts keep them from flopping around when using them. :)
Any idea when this comes out?
I am buying some of these. I have a steel bench, but could really use the added space and the hole pattern matches the pattern I have in my wood workbench
I have the Northern Tools fab table. Same table different box. I use it as a work bench from time to time. I use a big piece of cardboard to cover it. Works fine.
I will definitely be buying 1, and quite likely two of these when they get released. I use the folding welding tables they have now with one converted to plasma cutter use. I like the idea of a plywood removable top for use as well.
1 thing i noticed with the table and clamps which are definitely awsome but like most clamps the clamps with this table have flat clamping contacts..it would be nice if the kit came with convex caps that were curved for pipes like the the stubs to lay the pipe on in the peg hole..in the video it shows the clamp holding the pipe and only a 1/16th of that flat clamp contact is holding the pipe, if you had a round piece( magnetized) to pop on that flat round clamp end then you could better clamp a pipe down.. ive tried to weld pipe in the past with a c clamp and the dang pipe would roll 1 way or the other..i didnt weld a lot of it just a piece here and their but always thought if i did more I'd weld a thick curved piece on end of i c clamp just for pipe
Dood. I need that. Totally putting that on my shopping list. I don't need no fireball tools 10K table. That thing would do someone like me just fine. I so love Harbor Freight.
Thanks, as a hobbyist, this table maybe the answer for my needs.
I would of liked to see 1/4" due to all the holes in it. I ran 3/16 on a solid Weld table.
I will still probably pick one of these up.
Could always buy two and stack the plates to make thicker.
will the holes line up if you put one plate on top of each other ? double up on top thickness
Problem with any flat surfaces in my shop is they tend to get used as storage space for odds and ends. 😢😅
You're in luck, because there's no way in heck that top is even close to flat. 😂
Northern tool has a table exactly like this for about the same price. We bought it for a fixture table and has been great. It would likely warp if you did too much welding on it though
I had 2 from Texas Metalworks and used them for everything. They were great. Whem i get a space and able to replace them i will definitely take a look at these.
How are you going to attach the nuts to the bottom of the clamps without crawling under the table if the clamps need to be in the middle?
I have a piece of cat walk for a welding table. There are no round holes in it, but it has plenty of rectangular holes. Once you get used to working with them, it gives you almost an infinate amount of positions and angles to work with. Its about 24" x 36" and it weighjs as much as a church but its great and was free