Hey Hoop! I suggested this video back in part one so i'm pretty happy that you decided to make it. Both you and the artists are really talented and I enjoy your videos a lot.
I think the reason these videos are popular is because the new additions pay very good attention to the lore of the originals, they make a lot of sense. And the art is freaking amazing.
@@peanu76 Sure. But if you just wanted to see pokemon designs you would do that on Pinterest or DeviantArt. Instead of watching 15min long videos on UA-cam. And if Hoops noticed that people just skipped the lore on his viewing data, I don't think he would say they're popular since UA-cam takes watch time into account
No kidding. One of my favs is Shiroja, the fourth Jotho beast. The concept and backstory and the fact its name starts by Shi is poetic, epic and cool as hell.
I feel like "Themptid" would be a better name for Gremlid, it fits with the naming convention of the lake trio as it combines Them and Cryptid, like how we have Uxie (You + Pixie), Mesprit (Me + Spirit) and Azelf (Us + Elf), and as a plus, it's name sounds like the word "Tempted" when spoken which fits with the whole temptation theme.
but i guess then it would be themlin to not loose the gremlin or maybe demlin because then it woudnt be just them sticked over gremlin, and the de could also come from devil. maybe. idk eventualy demtin. to not completely loose the tempted... or just temtid
@@bobble-hat-01 Exactly. The 'outsider' pronoun works great for this one. The naming convention for these, as Aiden said, is a portmanteau of an object pronoun (like you, me, us, them) and a fairytale thingy (like pixie, sprite, elf), which I think Hoops wasn't aware of 😅 I also wouldn't say 'cryptid' is the best second part of the name when goblin or gnome something more fairytale-y would fit better with the pattern, but I can't argue with that Themptid/tempted coincidence!
Originally I wanted to start a new thread on my own for the pronoun „they“ in any variation, then I noticed this one. It's interesting, how natural for the people this pronoun come to the mind, while we technically also have “he”, “she“ and “it”. @Ambar9615: The “DEMLIN“, you've mentioned, could not only come from “them“ and/or “devil“, but also from “demon” which is why I like that variant of name the most. And if you don't want to lose the word “tempted“, just add an extra “t” to make it DEMTLIN (so altogether: Them + Demon + Devil + Tempted + Gremlin)
I could definitely imagine that the 5th Member of the Forces of Nature could actually be the Original Dragon itself since it 5th Kami is based on a Dragon
I made a fourth member for the lake trio too. In the lore I had it found in the Lake of Rage and was what made the Pokemon act erratically. I called it Powarf, combining power and dwarf.
Yeah, I can’t wait for gen 6 simply because I wanna see some new member of the aura trio. Gen 7 would be cool to have either a new Tapu (maybe for the Aether Paradise “island”) or a new member of the light trio
It would be awesome that the last member was inspired by the villain of the three Musketeers, the cardinal Richelieu, or even with the man in the iron mask, a character of the second novel of the group
just so you know the creation trio normally refers to dialga palkia and giratina not arceus but Theres also a theory that the original dragon of zekrom reshiram and kyurem was a fourth member for the creation trio representing energy so uxie could be tied to that
@@MousechrisTFM it’s a vague color scheme resemblance. Azelf, White and Blue. Dialga, White and Blue. Mesprit, Red and White. Palkia, Red and White. Uxie, White and Yellow. Arceus, White and Yellow. Mesprit is more pinkish than Palkia but my point still stands. It most likely is a coincidence but I thought it was interesting.
Hmmm, i would have thought that the 4th member of the lake trio would be "intuition" or "instinct" , going by tarot logic, which would contrast against willpower. The binary of active vs passive lifeforces, or else external vs innate orientation. "Instinct" is also a more positive connotation than temptation.
I think a fun change I might suggest would be instead having malevolous be a fighting flying type having the rage be less of an evil thing and leaning more into the nature thing. A storm does not rage because it wishes to kill it is simply what a storm does
Sadly he doing the box art trios, he’s only adding to the slate legendary trios aka not the box art ones. So he can’t do the creation trio but he can do the island gaurdians
Can't wait for part 3! My idea for part 3 is that you make a fifth Tapu, a Galarian form for Rocuatro, and another member of whatever sub-legendary group Paldea has if Paldea has one.
I think you could've also made Malevorus an Ice/Flying Type, as a sort of Cold Demeanor since Ice and Cold are sometimes used to describe someone who's Heart is hardened to Love, Cold Heart, Cold-Hearted.
tbh pitting 'rage' as a counterpart to enamorus is a little meh to me, and your take a little more on point; exploring apathy vs antipathy might be a little much for a pokemon game though lol
I have to say Malevous looks pretty freaking dope! I do like the other genies a good amount as well as Enamours, but I do think it would be freaking awesome if we saw this one as real Pokémon!
For Gremlid i think the concept of "Ambition" would fit better with the rest of the trio. It would be something the creator would like to teach to his creation and iy can bring both good and bad outcomes.
All three are actually very believable, so that’s major points, but i gotta say Trevillion would be absolutely baller. Maybe a mixed attacker with good speed? Idk. I love it, it’s awesome
Locations that I would put these pokemon in: Gremlid: Lake of the test Malevorous: Mad shrine (after catching all other genies)(incarnate) Dream world (therian) Trevillion: Ruins of Galair (BW) Route 50 (B2W2)
I think a good idea for the next video in this series is an addition to the Kalos Trio of Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde, one representing Chaos and Discord to oppose Zygarde's Order and Balance. Possibly an Ice/Poison type based off of Loki.
I always thought a new member of the Swords of Justice would be one that was the strongest of them, but who grew too obsessed with power and would go too far someday. Leading too the others rebelling and banishing it from their midst. In banishment, it learned from it's mistakes and became good agian, but keeps itself away from others in fear of going too far agian. But it is said that if it's brethren were ever too face a danger too much for them, he would return to help.
Malevorus is definitely an awesome addition to the Kami's and the artwork is fantastic. My only concern is the Therion form is a bit too similar to Thundurus'. I understand that it's a chinese dragon, but I think this is where a more western dragon inspired design will help set it apart. I love the clouds hovering over its body like those of Asian dragon art, a clever touch
Mhh I actually disagree, when I look at Thundurus-T the last thing I think about is a dragon, be it chinese or whatever, and all of the elements are unique enough to make it stand out compared to the other genies. Now, of course there are some resemblances here and there, but considering that they're all part of the same group of legendaries it's not that surprising. The only things that look uninspired are the cloud-hands, I'll give you that, they would have probably looked better if they had regular claws (kinda like Rayquaza).
actually... i don't want to ruin this for you guys, but while the creation of the universe part of pokemon lore is totally based on chritianity, the lake trio aren't. they're inspired by the tripartition of the soul in both classical greek understanding and ancient hinduist. for Plato, the ψυχή (psyche, literally "breath" but it means soul, the inmaterial essence trapped in our material body) comprehends three different functions (usually misunderstood as three different parts, hence the pokemon trio): appetite (mesprit), spirit (azelf) and reason (uxie). Appetite refers to our low, carnal and individualistic desires, the "bad part" of the emotion; spirit refers to the "good part" of the emotion, that is, will, courage, fortitue, strength and so on, all of them understood from a collectivistic and self-sacrificing perspective (basically it had to be the dominant function of the warriors, that were going to fight for the state); finaly, the rational function is transparent in it's meaning: our ability to think and reason, which specifically constitutes our "divine" or "out of this material world" component. Even though plato's philosophy influenced christianism in a lot of ways, this triple division of the soul wasn't really translated into it. But it is, on the other hand, connected to hinduism, as Plato got it from the pitagorists and those from the orfics. The orfic religion probable (there's no way to be sure) came from the same source that influenced hinduism too, because inside hindu religion and philosophy you find the three "gunas" (गुण). Originally, they were cosmic "forces" or "qualities" (probably more like qualities) that composed all reality, included human nature and people's individual characters: tamas (ignorance, inertia, laziness), rajas (passion, activity, movement) and sattva (goodness, calmness, harmonious). There's a perfect equivalence 1:1 between Plato's three functions of the soul and these three qualities of the world: appetite = tamas (individualistic and lower desires), spirit = rajas (colectivistic and noble emotions) and reason = sattva (keep in mind that for lots of classical greeks, plato and it's master socrates included, there was an equivalence between reasoning and goodness: reason was inherently good, so being reasonable meant being good; and also for pitagorist and plato meant purifying your soul, making it more harmonic with the cosmos). Ofc there are plenty more characteristics showing the connection between those two traditions: the pre-existence of the soul, incarnation as a punishment from past life bad actions, purification as a means to be freed from the material world, social funcions depending on the nature of your soul, etc. It all basically comes from the same ancient and unknown source. The thing here is that these three funcions of the soul and qualities of the universe, and not the christian understanding of the soul, are what mesprit, azelf and uxie symbolize and from where they get their inspiration and lore. They adjusted slightly the connotations of appetite and spirit, making both neutral when originally the first was seen in a bad sense and the second in a good sense. They were warrior and patriarcal cultures, so it explains how they would reject certain types of feelings while encouraging others. But because pokémon didn't want to take that approach, they twisted it a little bit so mesprit's good too, and basically all three of them are different but equally good parts of the human psyche. But ignoring that twist, mesprit already represents tentation (not in a christian "original sin" way, but not so further away either, because christianity's views on bodily pleasure and those kind of feelings come from here too, specifically from plato and neoplatonism). [sorry for all the text, i did think that this was gonna take me much less space but yeah, summarizing it's hard, i did my best]
I think that fourth member of lake guardians should reside in unova (Cave of Being) and be the one to keep orginal dragon in check. (Fan theory about Orginal Dragon being fourth member of creation trio.)
i actually think the forces of nature look great as is. Especially the leader Landorus. yours kinda looks off in fitting anywhere where theyre already established. like its super overdesigned
The ONLY thing I would change about Malevorous, is the typing. Instead of Dark/Flying, I'd make it Steel/Flying. For the simple fact that it's the Center of the 4, and that makes me think it's their leader. Steel resists Fairy, Flying, and Electric, while being completely immune to Landorous' ground typing because it's also a flying type. But other than that, love it
Malevorus would be could cool, but the problem is that the forces of nature are also based on the seasons. Enamorus represents the season of love and the Spring blooming flowers, Thunderus represents the harsh Summer lightning storms, Landorus represents the harvest time of Autumn and Tornadus represents the cold Winter storms (why isn't he an ice type).
I wasn't sure about Malevorus at first, but I think it could work. The only thing I'm slightly miffed about is that I thought Tornadus should gain the Dark type. Maybe it could gain the Ice type instead tho? The only thing is that the others represent life of plants I think (To is withering Th is shedding L isblooming E is budding), so what would Malevorus be
Malevorus's Therian form kinda looks like Rayquaza to me and I find that extrremely intriguing since the Genies have no relation to Rayquaza at least to my knowledge so I'm wondering if there could be some story element in there or it's just a generic dragon like shape
Gremlid is definitely my fav of the three. Maybe because you tied it to my favorite of the creation trio, maybe cause dark type is my second favorite type and I love the juxtaposition against the other lake guardians, maybe cause it has far more expression than the other lake Pokémon. Whatever the reason, these are all really cool and creative.
Wow. I was thinking, "How could he possibly add to the lake trio?" But now I actually want Gremlid to exist; that idea is so perfect and interesting, and the design is clean.
Fun video. I will say while I like Trevillion, I admit given the previous two I was fully expecting an evil musketeer-esque one for the Sword "trio" hehe.
Dude i was just thinking of the other video and tried to think of some for the weather and creation trio. Excited to see what these designs and lire pieces are
I like the Malevorus out of the three designs introduced in this video the most. For many reasons. The only thing a bit disappointing is the name. I understand your explanation and I completely agree, though, the official rest of that quartet has (at least for the first three introduced in gen V) something to do with natural phenomena (storms especially, because thunders, tornados and even land hit by lightnings - btw. because of that, it could also be Electric type instead of Dragon, even if it comes from the chinese mythology you've mentioned; but even the coloration of your fakemon could evoke the electric type perfectly…) the rule was partially broken with Enamorus. According to Bulbapedia, the name come from Enamor which has something to do with love and you also came that way with Malevorus; but IMO it also could technically come from Enamel; which has nothing to do with storms but it's natural at least. Also the “suffix“ -vorus in your name could also come from “carnivorous”. Because of what I mentioned earlier abtou the electric typing and lightnings, its name could also be something like Lumenodus to make it best fit for the quartet, because: TornaDUS, ThunduRUS, LandoRUS; then lumen is the unit of luminous flux and I didn't want to name it after the unit LUX (because we already have Luxray) nor Illuminatus because of obvious reasons. Also for the Trevillion, if it has to be master of them, it should definitely have an extra form to beat Keldeo, because Keldeo isn't even the master of them and has a resolute form. And also the name should shift to fit the theme of naming the other members (except for Keldeo): Cobalion = cobalt (bluish color), Terrakion = terracotta (grey-ish brown or somthing similar), Virizion = viridis (green), so… since the dominant color of the fakemon is purple/violet and pink… what about - no matter your name actually fits, because the „Treville“ part of its name also could reference “violet“ partially; how surprising! I'm excited for the next part, if it comes.
I feel that the four genie lengendaries are going to have a 5th form as in all of them are combined into one. Because the Chinese lion dance costume or beast is supposely them four put together to become the lion chimera.
7:20 For the forces of nature i had the same idea for the therian form, except that mine is called Dracorus and, by his name, it's a dragon and flying type and the category of mine is "the terror of the sky"
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Aura Trio = Ampersankr (NRM/ELC) - based on Ratatoskr, the squirrel who delivers messages up and down Yggdrasil, often causing mayhem between the species living among it. Name from "Ampersand" (&) the unofficial 27th letter of the alphabet, "Amp" for it's electric typing, and "Ratatoskr" Guardian Deities = Tapu Haole (STL/FRY) - An artificial guardian deity created to protect the Aether Paradise as the fifth unofficial island of Alola. Name from "Tapu" (Hawaiian: Holy) and "Haole" (Hawaiian: Foreigner), a nod to its non native origin and also a byword Hawaiians use for non-Hawaiians (mostly White Americans).
really like the designs and concepts but interesting lore tidbit; enamorus isnt ONLY based on love, its the love-hate pokémon, after all - it's incarnate form represents love while its therian form represents hate, as seen in its pokedex entries, therefore the two concepts slightly overlap
Fourth legend for arceus trio: sabakin, the servant pokemon. It's basically a servant for arceus and has five prongs on its head that can grab things, referring to the legend about arceus's 1000 hands.
@@thepbritYes, but even if the theory was debunked, I do like the idea of aether paradise creating an artificial Tapu. Perhaps this Tapu has a signature ability that shuts down terrain.
I was also expecting Gremlid to fit the first letters for the original trio as for their head designs are correlated to the first letters of their names, with Azelf having a pointy head (because the letter A has a pointy tip), Mesprit having tentacle-like hairs (because the letter M also has downward stems), and Uxie having a hollow design, creating the U-shaped sides along the way (because the letter U is shaped like one that can be put with a hollow dome atop of it). But it could be complicated for Gremlid as G has only one outward tip that could represent one horn. But either way, great concept for the spirit kf temptation embodied through Gremlid 💞
I had to concept for a member of the lake spirit Trio who had a green hair and was the embodiment of imagination and creativity, but since they don't really tend to follow the rules as a sort of free spirit they kind of wander and don't really have their own Lake shrine. my idea for their face was that they almost always have that sort of giddy/gleeful smile, like a fanboy learning that their favorite show is getting a new season.
Good to see you acknowledged Enamorus before adding another Force of Nature. And yes, Malevorus is awesome. I admit, I thought the Forces were just seasonal, but how much about the Auspicious Beasts do you see in Immortal Taoists?
A similar version I'd love to see would be mythical duos instead of legendary trios, obviously mew 3 or something similar would be a given, but a third for Lugia and ho-oh or creselia and Darkrai would be amazing to see!
Darkrai and Cresselia could have a sandman-like pokmeon who puts people to sleep and begins dreams, both good and nightmares. As for Lugia and Ho-Ho, maybe this one could be a another winged creature who creates a Trio of sea legends(like how Lugia creates air legends and Ho-Oh creates terrestrial legends)
I’ll be honest I had my doubts on how you’ll make new Pokémon fits into this these groups because of how well they are established but you did a great job Hoops they all look amazing
Gremlid is inspired. Love it [despite having no real love, or hate, for the Lake Trio] I think it's inner eyes could've been a bit bigger to fit the pixies', though.
When I saw the name Gremlid, I actually thought you were referencing the "id"--the primitive, impulsive, aggressive, self-serving instinct of one's personality, which not only fits perfectly with the temptation theme, but also fits nicely with the references of being that are hidden in the Lake Trio's names (you/Uxie, me/Mesprit, us/Azelf, and now id/Gremlid). So, in that sense, Gremlid is actually a flawless name! EDIT: Even more proof the name is perfect: some believe the Lake Trio are also named after their colors. So, you have Uxie/yellow (since "U" is pronounced with a "y" sound), Mesprit/magenta, Azelf/azure, and now Gremlid/grey. So, yeah, absolutely a 10/10 name. And speaking of color, all four members of the Lake "Trio" also fit neatly into the CMYK color model.
13:30 I do have Ideas 1. Genderless/None Gender Lati (perhaps Green or Grey) 2. Tapu (just because why not) 3. Aura Trio (because Zygarde doesn't fit "life cycle" theme, unlike Rayquaza in Weather Trio) maybe Resurection or Artificial Life? 4. Light Trio/Ultra Trio (same reason as Zygarde, but Necrozma) Maybe based on Uranium? or Star? or both? (If uranium would be seen from earth, it would be green, 3rd Lycanrock is connected with Green Light that is rare phenomenon in Pokemon world, that can be seen during Dusk or Dawn, AND I've heard somewhere than once Uranium was discovered (not planet) it was called (for short period of time) Earth Stars, Stars of Earth... smth like this. Still it could be fake) Most important - It should be Cosmoem's 3rd evo 5. Hero Duo (Ik, that Eternatus is part of TDD Trio, but same reason as Zygarde and Necrozma, imo doesn't fit the rest) in every game if there's category of character, it classifies it as: Offense/Attack (Zacian) Defense (Zamazenta) and Support (because it's Mediaval themed, I think it could be metal wand? maybe Psychic Type, and ofc would be Amber because it's close to Yellow, and there's color pallete CMY (Cyan Magenta Yellow) and Zacian and Zamazenta are Blue and Red, which is close to Cyan and Magenta, that they have in Shiny forms 6. Kubfu Evos because there's also 3rd type of attacks - (Single Strike Style) Strong but single move (Rapid Strike Style) weak move, but can attack multiple times and weak move, that will deal damage every turn Fire Spin f.e. 7. Calyrex's Horses (just because why not) 8. Treasures of Ruin (could be challenging, but could be nice) 9. Raidon - Koraidon (Ancient), Miraidon (Future), so why not do Stronger Cyclizar (like Diance for Carbinks) (Present) perhaps Genraidon? (Genzai - Present times) or Iraidon (Irai - Modern) I could also ask for 3rd Bird, to Lugia and Ho-oh, but idt it would be a good idea... anyway: Have fun, and I hope u'll do at least 3 of them (I would like most: 3 4 and 5)
for the sinnoh trio. i would say instead of Gremlid for temptation; i would make it a mon named: Nymphire. It would be the people the represents Hope. Arceus gave people and mon the power to have their own Will, gain knowledge, feel their Emotion, and the one thing that can never die when all is lost... the power of Hope
Honestly. I'm enjoying this wonderful series. Adding new members to the trios and other groups is a great idea. Though I'm curious about what would you do for a new member of the Weather trio, the Creation Trio with Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Arceus, the Life, Death, and Order trio, the Tao trio, and so forth.
Oh, imagine if the real antagonists of Scarlet/Violet were a relgious cult worshipping an evil Pokemon like Malevorus, and intended to enact the Paldean Inquisition.
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Hey Hoop! I suggested this video back in part one so i'm pretty happy that you decided to make it.
Both you and the artists are really talented and I enjoy your videos a lot.
@@william_1727 thank you, I really appreciate it! :)
HoopsandHipHop if they would have Gremlid a Pokémon of temptation then they also need another Pokémon one who represents redemption or Forgiveness
what if their another member of the lake trio, their inference strict Behavior on you of should or shouldn't do?
Hoops, I think there is a scammer using your identity
I think the reason these videos are popular is because the new additions pay very good attention to the lore of the originals, they make a lot of sense. And the art is freaking amazing.
I think that they just like the pokemon designs
@@peanu76 Sure. But if you just wanted to see pokemon designs you would do that on Pinterest or DeviantArt. Instead of watching 15min long videos on UA-cam. And if Hoops noticed that people just skipped the lore on his viewing data, I don't think he would say they're popular since UA-cam takes watch time into account
Astute observations. Might not be factual but pretty damn convincing.
No kidding. One of my favs is Shiroja, the fourth Jotho beast. The concept and backstory and the fact its name starts by Shi is poetic, epic and cool as hell.
Malevorus is an absolutely incredible design, both the forms. MASSIVE props to Elesteva.
I think it shouldn’t have been the hate one because Enamorus is love hate
I feel like "Themptid" would be a better name for Gremlid, it fits with the naming convention of the lake trio as it combines Them and Cryptid, like how we have Uxie (You + Pixie), Mesprit (Me + Spirit) and Azelf (Us + Elf), and as a plus, it's name sounds like the word "Tempted" when spoken which fits with the whole temptation theme.
This. This is great naming!
but i guess then it would be themlin
to not loose the gremlin
or maybe demlin
because then it woudnt be just them sticked over gremlin, and the de could also come from devil. maybe. idk
eventualy demtin. to not completely loose the tempted...
or just temtid
@@bobble-hat-01 Exactly. The 'outsider' pronoun works great for this one. The naming convention for these, as Aiden said, is a portmanteau of an object pronoun (like you, me, us, them) and a fairytale thingy (like pixie, sprite, elf), which I think Hoops wasn't aware of 😅
I also wouldn't say 'cryptid' is the best second part of the name when goblin or gnome something more fairytale-y would fit better with the pattern, but I can't argue with that Themptid/tempted coincidence!
Originally I wanted to start a new thread on my own for the pronoun „they“ in any variation, then I noticed this one. It's interesting, how natural for the people this pronoun come to the mind, while we technically also have “he”, “she“ and “it”.
@Ambar9615: The “DEMLIN“, you've mentioned, could not only come from “them“ and/or “devil“, but also from “demon” which is why I like that variant of name the most. And if you don't want to lose the word “tempted“, just add an extra “t” to make it DEMTLIN (so altogether: Them + Demon + Devil + Tempted + Gremlin)
Pretty good thematic reasoning
I could definitely imagine that the 5th Member of the Forces of Nature could actually be the Original Dragon itself since it 5th Kami is based on a Dragon
That's what I thought when seeing this video
I heard a theory that Kyurem is the "Yellow Dragon" due to the yellow gem/thing on it's head. The Original Dragon could be the 5th member
@@sandofman4161 Judging by the Vermillion gem on Therian Tornadus, it seems all the more likely.
Didn’t the forces of nature already get a new member in enamorus
@@Prince-of-Hearts-y5f could be foreshadowing
I made a fourth member for the lake trio too. In the lore I had it found in the Lake of Rage and was what made the Pokemon act erratically. I called it Powarf, combining power and dwarf.
I love how every new inclusion is like “the evil version” with a dark or ghost or both typings
Please make this an on going series
Yeah, I can’t wait for gen 6 simply because I wanna see some new member of the aura trio. Gen 7 would be cool to have either a new Tapu (maybe for the Aether Paradise “island”) or a new member of the light trio
As someone who actually likes all 4 of the forces of nature, that Malevorus design is sick (probably one of my favourite fakemon I've ever seen).
I assumed Trevillion also came from “vermilion”, since it fits with the color themed names of the other three.
Verizoin is already Vermilion
That would be “viridian”.
@@Enteringdullsville That makes more sense now that I think about it
It would be awesome that the last member was inspired by the villain of the three Musketeers, the cardinal Richelieu, or even with the man in the iron mask, a character of the second novel of the group
@@joshuabennett8256 Vermilion is a shade of red. Virozion is from Viridian which is green
I just realized the lake trio kind of resemble the creation trio, Azelf=Dialga, Mesprit=Palkia, Uxie=Arceus. Now we have one for Giratina :D
just so you know the creation trio normally refers to dialga palkia and giratina not arceus but Theres also a theory that the original dragon of zekrom reshiram and kyurem was a fourth member for the creation trio representing energy so uxie could be tied to that
You smoking something if you think they look like the creation trio
@@MousechrisTFM it’s a vague color scheme resemblance. Azelf, White and Blue. Dialga, White and Blue. Mesprit, Red and White. Palkia, Red and White. Uxie, White and Yellow. Arceus, White and Yellow. Mesprit is more pinkish than Palkia but my point still stands. It most likely is a coincidence but I thought it was interesting.
Hmmm, i would have thought that the 4th member of the lake trio would be "intuition" or "instinct" , going by tarot logic, which would contrast against willpower. The binary of active vs passive lifeforces, or else external vs innate orientation. "Instinct" is also a more positive connotation than temptation.
For a name, it would also have to fit the naming scheme of You/Me/Us + Pixie/Spirit/Elf. Maybe Iyimp? Iyairy? Iyfae?
I think a fun change I might suggest would be instead having malevolous be a fighting flying type having the rage be less of an evil thing and leaning more into the nature thing. A storm does not rage because it wishes to kill it is simply what a storm does
I actually really like that idea
Malevorus is awesome-might just be one of my favorite FakeMon ever. I feel like it captures that Pokémon feel better than the actual forces of nature.
Agreed
I love how Malevoros kept the trend of every genie having a different amount of horns from 1 to 5.
The creation trio would also have been a really good one imo
but the video was good as always :D
Sadly he doing the box art trios, he’s only adding to the slate legendary trios aka not the box art ones. So he can’t do the creation trio but he can do the island gaurdians
Gremlid also fits as the opposite to the additive colors the lake trio represent.
I knew the 4th Lake Pokemon would be evil! Like, I could quite find what it would depict but I always pictured an evil entity! And you nailed it!
Thank you!!
My personal headcannon is that hoops is an evolved lake gaurdian that represents mischief.
It also mirrors the creation quartet. As one of them is evil as well
Can't wait for part 3! My idea for part 3 is that you make a fifth Tapu, a Galarian form for Rocuatro, and another member of whatever sub-legendary group Paldea has if Paldea has one.
I think you could've also made Malevorus an Ice/Flying Type, as a sort of Cold Demeanor since Ice and Cold are sometimes used to describe someone who's Heart is hardened to Love, Cold Heart, Cold-Hearted.
Sure but he’s gotta change up the design, and also just cause cold hearted doesn’t mean his heart is literally cold.
tbh pitting 'rage' as a counterpart to enamorus is a little meh to me, and your take a little more on point; exploring apathy vs antipathy might be a little much for a pokemon game though lol
Btw it’s 2024 now and the weather trio actually has got a fourth cannon mon representing love
Whoops never mind!
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I have to say Malevous looks pretty freaking dope! I do like the other genies a good amount as well as Enamours, but I do think it would be freaking awesome if we saw this one as real Pokémon!
For Gremlid i think the concept of "Ambition" would fit better with the rest of the trio. It would be something the creator would like to teach to his creation and iy can bring both good and bad outcomes.
All three are actually very believable, so that’s major points, but i gotta say Trevillion would be absolutely baller. Maybe a mixed attacker with good speed? Idk. I love it, it’s awesome
Locations that I would put these pokemon in:
Gremlid: Lake of the test
Malevorous: Mad shrine (after catching all other genies)(incarnate)
Dream world (therian)
Trevillion: Ruins of Galair (BW)
Route 50 (B2W2)
I think a good idea for the next video in this series is an addition to the Kalos Trio of Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde, one representing Chaos and Discord to oppose Zygarde's Order and Balance. Possibly an Ice/Poison type based off of Loki.
I always thought a new member of the Swords of Justice would be one that was the strongest of them, but who grew too obsessed with power and would go too far someday. Leading too the others rebelling and banishing it from their midst. In banishment, it learned from it's mistakes and became good agian, but keeps itself away from others in fear of going too far agian. But it is said that if it's brethren were ever too face a danger too much for them, he would return to help.
Malevorus is definitely an awesome addition to the Kami's and the artwork is fantastic. My only concern is the Therion form is a bit too similar to Thundurus'. I understand that it's a chinese dragon, but I think this is where a more western dragon inspired design will help set it apart. I love the clouds hovering over its body like those of Asian dragon art, a clever touch
Mhh I actually disagree, when I look at Thundurus-T the last thing I think about is a dragon, be it chinese or whatever, and all of the elements are unique enough to make it stand out compared to the other genies. Now, of course there are some resemblances here and there, but considering that they're all part of the same group of legendaries it's not that surprising. The only things that look uninspired are the cloud-hands, I'll give you that, they would have probably looked better if they had regular claws (kinda like Rayquaza).
actually... i don't want to ruin this for you guys, but while the creation of the universe part of pokemon lore is totally based on chritianity, the lake trio aren't. they're inspired by the tripartition of the soul in both classical greek understanding and ancient hinduist. for Plato, the ψυχή (psyche, literally "breath" but it means soul, the inmaterial essence trapped in our material body) comprehends three different functions (usually misunderstood as three different parts, hence the pokemon trio): appetite (mesprit), spirit (azelf) and reason (uxie). Appetite refers to our low, carnal and individualistic desires, the "bad part" of the emotion; spirit refers to the "good part" of the emotion, that is, will, courage, fortitue, strength and so on, all of them understood from a collectivistic and self-sacrificing perspective (basically it had to be the dominant function of the warriors, that were going to fight for the state); finaly, the rational function is transparent in it's meaning: our ability to think and reason, which specifically constitutes our "divine" or "out of this material world" component.
Even though plato's philosophy influenced christianism in a lot of ways, this triple division of the soul wasn't really translated into it. But it is, on the other hand, connected to hinduism, as Plato got it from the pitagorists and those from the orfics. The orfic religion probable (there's no way to be sure) came from the same source that influenced hinduism too, because inside hindu religion and philosophy you find the three "gunas" (गुण). Originally, they were cosmic "forces" or "qualities" (probably more like qualities) that composed all reality, included human nature and people's individual characters: tamas (ignorance, inertia, laziness), rajas (passion, activity, movement) and sattva (goodness, calmness, harmonious).
There's a perfect equivalence 1:1 between Plato's three functions of the soul and these three qualities of the world: appetite = tamas (individualistic and lower desires), spirit = rajas (colectivistic and noble emotions) and reason = sattva (keep in mind that for lots of classical greeks, plato and it's master socrates included, there was an equivalence between reasoning and goodness: reason was inherently good, so being reasonable meant being good; and also for pitagorist and plato meant purifying your soul, making it more harmonic with the cosmos). Ofc there are plenty more characteristics showing the connection between those two traditions: the pre-existence of the soul, incarnation as a punishment from past life bad actions, purification as a means to be freed from the material world, social funcions depending on the nature of your soul, etc. It all basically comes from the same ancient and unknown source.
The thing here is that these three funcions of the soul and qualities of the universe, and not the christian understanding of the soul, are what mesprit, azelf and uxie symbolize and from where they get their inspiration and lore. They adjusted slightly the connotations of appetite and spirit, making both neutral when originally the first was seen in a bad sense and the second in a good sense. They were warrior and patriarcal cultures, so it explains how they would reject certain types of feelings while encouraging others. But because pokémon didn't want to take that approach, they twisted it a little bit so mesprit's good too, and basically all three of them are different but equally good parts of the human psyche. But ignoring that twist, mesprit already represents tentation (not in a christian "original sin" way, but not so further away either, because christianity's views on bodily pleasure and those kind of feelings come from here too, specifically from plato and neoplatonism).
[sorry for all the text, i did think that this was gonna take me much less space but yeah, summarizing it's hard, i did my best]
Malevorus Therian Form is hands down my favorite Fakemon Design Period
I think that fourth member of lake guardians should reside in unova (Cave of Being) and be the one to keep orginal dragon in check. (Fan theory about Orginal Dragon being fourth member of creation trio.)
i actually think the forces of nature look great as is. Especially the leader Landorus. yours kinda looks off in fitting anywhere where theyre already established. like its super overdesigned
So excited for more installments in this series also would be great if the other groups like Eon Duo and Weather trio also get more members
The ONLY thing I would change about Malevorous, is the typing. Instead of Dark/Flying, I'd make it Steel/Flying. For the simple fact that it's the Center of the 4, and that makes me think it's their leader. Steel resists Fairy, Flying, and Electric, while being completely immune to Landorous' ground typing because it's also a flying type.
But other than that, love it
Steel doesn’t resist Electric (rather, it’s the other way around-Electric resists Steel) but it does resist Flying
Malevorus would be could cool, but the problem is that the forces of nature are also based on the seasons. Enamorus represents the season of love and the Spring blooming flowers, Thunderus represents the harsh Summer lightning storms, Landorus represents the harvest time of Autumn and Tornadus represents the cold Winter storms (why isn't he an ice type).
Malevorus doesn’t even look fake at all it looks like it’s been there all along its THAT good!
Gremlid, Malevorus and Trevillion... These three would make perfect additions for their respective trios/quartets.
I wasn't sure about Malevorus at first, but I think it could work. The only thing I'm slightly miffed about is that I thought Tornadus should gain the Dark type. Maybe it could gain the Ice type instead tho? The only thing is that the others represent life of plants I think (To is withering Th is shedding L isblooming E is budding), so what would Malevorus be
Ah. Tornadus does cause frostbite with his signature move in legends Arceus. So you're definitely onto something.
Malevorus's Therian form kinda looks like Rayquaza to me and I find that extrremely intriguing since the Genies have no relation to Rayquaza at least to my knowledge so I'm wondering if there could be some story element in there or it's just a generic dragon like shape
Gremlid is definitely my fav of the three. Maybe because you tied it to my favorite of the creation trio, maybe cause dark type is my second favorite type and I love the juxtaposition against the other lake guardians, maybe cause it has far more expression than the other lake Pokémon. Whatever the reason, these are all really cool and creative.
Wow. I was thinking, "How could he possibly add to the lake trio?" But now I actually want Gremlid to exist; that idea is so perfect and interesting, and the design is clean.
Fun video. I will say while I like Trevillion, I admit given the previous two I was fully expecting an evil musketeer-esque one for the Sword "trio" hehe.
In Scarlet and Violet
The game will 4 counter part legendarys from the storm genies
Dude i was just thinking of the other video and tried to think of some for the weather and creation trio. Excited to see what these designs and lire pieces are
I want Trevillion in a Legends Zygarde game to show how the Swords of Justice actually came from Kalos
Wonder what trevillions paradox form would be called
I like the Malevorus out of the three designs introduced in this video the most. For many reasons. The only thing a bit disappointing is the name. I understand your explanation and I completely agree, though, the official rest of that quartet has (at least for the first three introduced in gen V) something to do with natural phenomena (storms especially, because thunders, tornados and even land hit by lightnings - btw. because of that, it could also be Electric type instead of Dragon, even if it comes from the chinese mythology you've mentioned; but even the coloration of your fakemon could evoke the electric type perfectly…) the rule was partially broken with Enamorus. According to Bulbapedia, the name come from Enamor which has something to do with love and you also came that way with Malevorus; but IMO it also could technically come from Enamel; which has nothing to do with storms but it's natural at least. Also the “suffix“ -vorus in your name could also come from “carnivorous”. Because of what I mentioned earlier abtou the electric typing and lightnings, its name could also be something like Lumenodus to make it best fit for the quartet, because: TornaDUS, ThunduRUS, LandoRUS; then lumen is the unit of luminous flux and I didn't want to name it after the unit LUX (because we already have Luxray) nor Illuminatus because of obvious reasons.
Also for the Trevillion, if it has to be master of them, it should definitely have an extra form to beat Keldeo, because Keldeo isn't even the master of them and has a resolute form. And also the name should shift to fit the theme of naming the other members (except for Keldeo): Cobalion = cobalt (bluish color), Terrakion = terracotta (grey-ish brown or somthing similar), Virizion = viridis (green), so… since the dominant color of the fakemon is purple/violet and pink… what about - no matter your name actually fits, because the „Treville“ part of its name also could reference “violet“ partially; how surprising!
I'm excited for the next part, if it comes.
I feel that the four genie lengendaries are going to have a 5th form as in all of them are combined into one. Because the Chinese lion dance costume or beast is supposely them four put together to become the lion chimera.
Malevorous therian forme is just rayquaza.. real creative there
I can't wait to see if you make a fourth member for the Creation Trio too because I think that could be interesting. Brilliant video all round.
I think it'd be cool if you made the duo legendaries have a third member, for example: Zacian and Zamazenta with a third member
Based on G U N
Hoops: If the Forces of Nature got a new member.
Enamorus: *N A N I?!*
They already added a fourth member to the weather trio in PLA
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It would be interesting to see if you did this with box art legendaries as well. Would also love to see a new Tapu
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7:20 For the forces of nature i had the same idea for the therian form, except that mine is called Dracorus and, by his name, it's a dragon and flying type and the category of mine is "the terror of the sky"
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Ngl I love love all these designs but I thought Trevilleon would a poison type just based off the outline( it kinda looks like a chimera)
I can’t wait for Gen 6 Aura Trio. Having a Ratatosk-Inspired fourth member would be golden
malevorus is what many people felt after seeing enamorus
also it seems like many of these aditional legendaries are dark type. but i can see why
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6:02 So the Lake Trio spells out Uma... And Gremlid starts with a G... So what I'm hearing is we just need to add more with a Z and then...
GUZMA!
*The swords of justice already technically have Keldeo, but these all still look great!*
Aura Trio = Ampersankr (NRM/ELC) - based on Ratatoskr, the squirrel who delivers messages up and down Yggdrasil, often causing mayhem between the species living among it. Name from "Ampersand" (&) the unofficial 27th letter of the alphabet, "Amp" for it's electric typing, and "Ratatoskr"
Guardian Deities = Tapu Haole (STL/FRY) - An artificial guardian deity created to protect the Aether Paradise as the fifth unofficial island of Alola. Name from "Tapu" (Hawaiian: Holy) and "Haole" (Hawaiian: Foreigner), a nod to its non native origin and also a byword Hawaiians use for non-Hawaiians (mostly White Americans).
Honestly my 4th member for the lake trio was soul, a complete spirit being the leader of it, however yours is good too!
really like the designs and concepts but interesting lore tidbit; enamorus isnt ONLY based on love, its the love-hate pokémon, after all - it's incarnate form represents love while its therian form represents hate, as seen in its pokedex entries, therefore the two concepts slightly overlap
I fell in love with Malevorus. Shout out to the great artist of this amazing Fakemon
Enamorus: AM I A **BLEEPING** JOKE TO YOU??!?!??!!?
Elesteva: “Let’s make it Dark-Type, with spikes on it.”
H&HH: *surprised Pikachu face*
Fourth legend for arceus trio: sabakin, the servant pokemon. It's basically a servant for arceus and has five prongs on its head that can grab things, referring to the legend about arceus's 1000 hands.
There was some nice Fakemon for a Mount Akala Ice/Fairy Tapu.
There's also a theory Magearna is the artificial Aether Foundation Tapu-equivalent.
That Magearna theory is completely wrong, Magearna is an ancient pokemon that was made 500 years ago as a gift for a kings daughter
@@thepbritYes, but even if the theory was debunked, I do like the idea of aether paradise creating an artificial Tapu. Perhaps this Tapu has a signature ability that shuts down terrain.
While not necessarily a trio. I would love to see Aether Paradise try artificially create their own Tapu
That would be dope af.
Did he just use child-like water fairies as a gateway to ballcleaners?
I was also expecting Gremlid to fit the first letters for the original trio as for their head designs are correlated to the first letters of their names, with Azelf having a pointy head (because the letter A has a pointy tip), Mesprit having tentacle-like hairs (because the letter M also has downward stems), and Uxie having a hollow design, creating the U-shaped sides along the way (because the letter U is shaped like one that can be put with a hollow dome atop of it). But it could be complicated for Gremlid as G has only one outward tip that could represent one horn. But either way, great concept for the spirit kf temptation embodied through Gremlid 💞
I had to concept for a member of the lake spirit Trio who had a green hair and was the embodiment of imagination and creativity, but since they don't really tend to follow the rules as a sort of free spirit they kind of wander and don't really have their own Lake shrine. my idea for their face was that they almost always have that sort of giddy/gleeful smile, like a fanboy learning that their favorite show is getting a new season.
Now I’m curious if Dialga Palkia and Arceus should have distorted forms
Love the designs for both of Malevorus’s forms.
Good to see you acknowledged Enamorus before adding another Force of Nature.
And yes, Malevorus is awesome. I admit, I thought the Forces were just seasonal, but how much about the Auspicious Beasts do you see in Immortal Taoists?
"Is there any hope at all for a new member for the forces of nature?" Directly after showing Enamorus.
A similar version I'd love to see would be mythical duos instead of legendary trios, obviously mew 3 or something similar would be a given, but a third for Lugia and ho-oh or creselia and Darkrai would be amazing to see!
Darkrai and Cresselia could have a sandman-like pokmeon who puts people to sleep and begins dreams, both good and nightmares. As for Lugia and Ho-Ho, maybe this one could be a another winged creature who creates a Trio of sea legends(like how Lugia creates air legends and Ho-Oh creates terrestrial legends)
at least you got rid of the word Trio from the title this time. and all the designs and lore were fantastic. props to you and Elesteva076!
I thought Tropius was a part of the Legendary Beasts, resembling the renewal of life, and the flowers that bloomed from the ashes of the tower
That is...Positively insane. Now I really want a grass type legendary beast, solely because of what you said.
The forced of nature is already a quartet, Landorus, Thundurus, Tornadus and Enamorus
I wonder what a new member of the light trio would be?
tbh the Original Dragon trio add in Kyurem being the vessel, it would be nice to see the "spirits" of them roaming around.
I’ll be honest I had my doubts on how you’ll make new Pokémon fits into this these groups because of how well they are established but you did a great job Hoops they all look amazing
Add Bidoof to the 3 gods. Imagine:
Palkia, Dialga, Arceus, and Bidoof
Love this series Hoops! Keep them coming! 💪
Gremlid is inspired. Love it [despite having no real love, or hate, for the Lake Trio]
I think it's inner eyes could've been a bit bigger to fit the pixies', though.
Thank you for continuing this!! I would love to see this as a continuing series.
When I saw the name Gremlid, I actually thought you were referencing the "id"--the primitive, impulsive, aggressive, self-serving instinct of one's personality, which not only fits perfectly with the temptation theme, but also fits nicely with the references of being that are hidden in the Lake Trio's names (you/Uxie, me/Mesprit, us/Azelf, and now id/Gremlid).
So, in that sense, Gremlid is actually a flawless name!
EDIT: Even more proof the name is perfect: some believe the Lake Trio are also named after their colors. So, you have Uxie/yellow (since "U" is pronounced with a "y" sound), Mesprit/magenta, Azelf/azure, and now Gremlid/grey. So, yeah, absolutely a 10/10 name. And speaking of color, all four members of the Lake "Trio" also fit neatly into the CMYK color model.
Should be interesting moving forward, as the remaining generations only have a Trio of box arts
13:30 I do have Ideas
1. Genderless/None Gender Lati (perhaps Green or Grey)
2. Tapu (just because why not)
3. Aura Trio (because Zygarde doesn't fit "life cycle" theme, unlike Rayquaza in Weather Trio) maybe Resurection or Artificial Life?
4. Light Trio/Ultra Trio (same reason as Zygarde, but Necrozma) Maybe based on Uranium? or Star? or both? (If uranium would be seen from earth, it would be green, 3rd Lycanrock is connected with Green Light that is rare phenomenon in Pokemon world, that can be seen during Dusk or Dawn, AND I've heard somewhere than once Uranium was discovered (not planet) it was called (for short period of time) Earth Stars, Stars of Earth... smth like this. Still it could be fake) Most important - It should be Cosmoem's 3rd evo
5. Hero Duo (Ik, that Eternatus is part of TDD Trio, but same reason as Zygarde and Necrozma, imo doesn't fit the rest) in every game if there's category of character, it classifies it as: Offense/Attack (Zacian) Defense (Zamazenta) and Support (because it's Mediaval themed, I think it could be metal wand? maybe Psychic Type, and ofc would be Amber because it's close to Yellow, and there's color pallete CMY (Cyan Magenta Yellow) and Zacian and Zamazenta are Blue and Red, which is close to Cyan and Magenta, that they have in Shiny forms
6. Kubfu Evos because there's also 3rd type of attacks - (Single Strike Style) Strong but single move (Rapid Strike Style) weak move, but can attack multiple times and weak move, that will deal damage every turn Fire Spin f.e.
7. Calyrex's Horses (just because why not)
8. Treasures of Ruin (could be challenging, but could be nice)
9. Raidon - Koraidon (Ancient), Miraidon (Future), so why not do Stronger Cyclizar (like Diance for Carbinks) (Present) perhaps Genraidon? (Genzai - Present times) or Iraidon (Irai - Modern)
I could also ask for 3rd Bird, to Lugia and Ho-oh, but idt it would be a good idea... anyway: Have fun, and I hope u'll do at least 3 of them (I would like most: 3 4 and 5)
Gremlid would get along well with Hoopa hahaha and Trevillion is fabulous〜💖
for the sinnoh trio. i would say instead of Gremlid for temptation; i would make it a mon named: Nymphire. It would be the people the represents Hope.
Arceus gave people and mon the power to have their own Will, gain knowledge, feel their Emotion, and the one thing that can never die when all is lost... the power of Hope
Honestly. I'm enjoying this wonderful series. Adding new members to the trios and other groups is a great idea. Though I'm curious about what would you do for a new member of the Weather trio, the Creation Trio with Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, and Arceus, the Life, Death, and Order trio, the Tao trio, and so forth.
But the Forces of Nature already got Enamorous?
Sir.. that kami 5th member ‘s tail is very sus. I’m into it.
Dude ALL of these are bangers!!
The swords of justice could become a 5 justice Pokémon team just like the power rangers lol
Oh, imagine if the real antagonists of Scarlet/Violet were a relgious cult worshipping an evil Pokemon like Malevorus, and intended to enact the Paldean Inquisition.
I love the fact that they actually made a fourth member of the forces of nature but sadly it sucks
I would have suggested a different option: will, emotion, wisdom, knowledge, or maybe creativity. Any of those options fit the themes.
Malevorus has the sickest moustache.