2018 BMW F850GS Review
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2018
- 2018 BMW F850GS Review: As a fan and owner of the R1200GS I was very keen to ride this, BMW's new "middleweight" adventure bike. Stay tuned to see if I was disappointed!
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“A confidence inspiring machine” is exactly what it is. Ever since I own my 850gs I really had fun and enjoy riding again. This bike got me out of a depression and out of a time I almost quit riding... love the friendly characteristics and it has enough power to go if you want to. Ahh and did first time off-roading, thats just a lot of fun! Brilliant bike!
Good stuff!
The pure comedy routine that is your relationship with your nemesis the "white van" is worth the subscription alone. All your valuable information is just icing on the cake. Thanks man.
Great review as ever, agree you'd probably need to swap the screen for something a bit larger to get the extra protection. Nice you showed us a glimpse of the dealership at the start, cheers.
Lovely bike as usual from BM, they make such quality bikes, really like them . All the best 👍😎
Thanks! Been looking forward to your review on this one for a long time.
Perfect timing for this review as I rode that very bike you tested and decided to order a GS 850 Sport ...
Great review as usual Mr Flyer :) quality of parts and assembly looks sublime. Very seriously tempted by it.
Geezo, it’s almost the same weight as my air cooled Thruxton!! Just shows you how tech is changing. Thanks for another video treat TMF.
Love the videos... but dunno which I like more; seeing the motorcycles or getting a nice tour of jolly ole England.
Another top vid mate. Been waiting for this one for a while. Looking to replace my 800GS. Two things you didn’t mention was the cruise control (filtering down to a few middleweights now) and that silly BMW power socket that’s not compatible with anything!
I can’t wait to hear how these sound with a louder pipe, too! 270° crank should sound much better than the 180° “sewing machine simulator” that is my 800.
Another great review! Must have been hard to leave the airport parking lot and not go flying on such a brilliant day!
I really don’t get why they bother putting that tiny screen on, after all it’s a tourer ?
Good morning TMF, another super video and review. Thank you 😎👍🇬🇧.
Haha! White van man comes and the white van man goes! What a riot. I can't get over that. It's quite hilarious.
Great video as always, Flyer. I really like the color scheme on that 850. I'm sure any BMW is a treat. Hey! Before you know it you'll be over 100k subs! Cheers, Flyer!
The red It's the only colour that cost's no extra money, i would have that dark green metallic but i think it's £400 extra, the white with racing colours is a bit shouty for me.
Another great review - thanks again TMF
Heard this bike in person this weekend, it sounds like a Thruxton R with stock pipes, kinda cool actually.
Sounds like a great bike. Great review, and chances of doing a long term in the future? Does it have a center stand?
Hi Mr Flyer passed my full test yesterday clean sheet on mod 1 and only 2faults on the mod2 has a smile like the Cheshire Cat let’s go testride aload of bikes can’t wait ride safe mate
Congratulations!
Just rode the baby baby G310 GS yesterday... Such fun.
Another good review and quality video, blip blip....nothing wrong with doing that, stay young!
Great review as usual, interesting that you steered clear from any comparison with the Africa Twin. I think BMW made it very much like it, 270 deg crank, they even have it in tricolor with gold wheels. It's a good bike it seems... But I prefer my AT :D
So they have finally reached the US, test rode an 850GS today. Love the motor, very comfortable, great quickshifter, the electronic suspension works great, best TFT display ever, feels like it weighs about half what a 1200GS weighs, can't really find much fault in it. Though for me personally I'm not big into dirt riding, so am interested to see what the F850GT turns out like. The 850GS in the US is 17,700 USD, well into the price range of the R1200R and R1200RS, any F850R or GT will need to be a fair bit cheaper to not be in the equivalent R1200 model price range.
I very recently bought a similar bike with the same spec. I agree with everything that's been said. However, the wind buffeting was a let down so I bought a touring screen, which made all the difference. To me it looks better with the bigger screen
Blimey you're up early. Nice to see a reasonably priced BMW. When you say you don't need more power, I still think the similar priced Tracer the better option because it has more power for easier overtakes. The Beemer does look good mind, like you say so many great bikes out there.
Banditmanuk if you gave the bmw an extra cylinder. 17" cast wheels suspension set up for more road based riding it would compete well with the tracer but be a very different bike.
I'm riding the R1200GS and my son had an F800GS but recently sold it.. I was torn between selling my 1200GS and buying it from him, I absolutely love the 800GS so I can only imagine who much more I'd love this one.. Good idea going with the spoked tubed tyres (one of the deciding factors in me not having the older model was it was tubed). Are all GS screen's bad?.. I've had to buy a wind deflector for the 1200GS, and the older 800GS had a tiny screen too.. Great video of a great bike.
Loved the vid! ....is it significantly different from the 800GS. ...seems like minor adjustments and bigger price?
Great video. Thanks for posting.
Just seen one of these in the flesh, wow it is nice i think the non tft screen on the sport is fine it looks compact the whole bike and feels light as a feather, if i did not already have a f800gs i would be ordering one right now.
Excellent first impression as usual.. I am really foxed by the affinity those white band have for you 😂..
Maybe a White Van review is in order and that would be good riddance to them 😝
I recently got a f800gs. Fitted a proper screen and comfort seat. I'll be riding it for years. Really like it.
Srgthe wish I could keep one for more than 2 years. They always make something newer that catches my eye. I've owned an FJR for exactly 2 years and even though it is perfect for what I need, I'm looking around. Then theirs my cb1000r...lol.
Yeah I like the 800. If I was going to get one of these here 850 dealios, it'll be a few years down the line when I can buy one used, to save on the price tag and not have to deal with the reliability issues of a first year model.😁
“How annoying is that?” Laughed out loud there TMF - great video as Always!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching....
I did too! White vans for TMF is like the blue three wheeler (Robin, was it?) for mr Bean! They always shows up when you expect it the least! :-)
Not only is the Tracer GT cheaper, but it comes with panniers, cruise control and heated grips, not to mention better wind protection. No contest. However I bought the Kawasaki Z1000sx.
I wish BMW would go back to their roots and stick a shaft on one of their middleweights. It would be my next bike.
Mark Stewart have to agree with you Mark, I'm done oiling and adjusting chains.
andy smith I have the 1200GS. It’s simply brilliant but...if I could drop a weight class and retain the shaft drive I would. Shaft drive=less maintenance, cleaner and you just ride.
Some here, wake up bmw!
Mark Stewart I'd love that to :)
I had an F800ST. The engine was brilliant as the Kevlar belt was superb, however the only place to get a replacement belt was BMW which made them and they wanted to charge a lot of money to replace it at 24k miles. Also the drive teeth can break if stones and grit get in there so arguably a chain is better for a machine that might be used off road.
Yes this is a lovely bike and great review TMF
Nice review.
I would like to see a review form the Tiger XCA with the WP suspension.
Cheers.
I laughed out loud at your bring juvenile comment after you blipped the throttle in the tunnel, as I would have done the same thing! Ha ha. It is indeed a "great to be alive day" when you have a late lunch and get to watch another one of your well polished reviews with lots of great info. Thanks! (I think I'm going to have to watch the walk around again.)
I'm in the market for a "middle-weight touring/adventure" bike. Two questions: 1) Does it feel taller than a Honda African Twin Adventure Sport?
Also, given that this is almost a naked bike. ;-) 2) This or the KTM 790 Duke? (Recently enjoyed watched your review of the 790 Duke too.)
Hope you had a great day riding today. :-)
I really enjoy your videos. You seem like a real decent chap.
Thank you!
favourite places! great review, thx
Really cranking out the video's. Love it. (You in Norway right now?)
Yep sure am - early start today...
Thanks for posting. I'd like to see you test ride the F750GS though. :)
Great review, as always.
I was really... really... excited for the F850GS to come out and it seems like a great bike for most riding styles and purposes.
But... the low fuel capacity and poor wind protection kinda poo poo'd my excitement level. In all honesty, if I were a totally solo rider it would be perfect in Rallye trim so I can't fault BMW for the bike.
Still, the AT/ATAS is at the top of my short list.
Usual great video TMF. 👍
Interesting what you say about other choices in that class. I reckon I'd still be for the Mutistrada 950, I and bet they will give that model the skyhook suspension soon. Still that BMW looks nice though and would fit my bill.
Nice bike , getting older and still touring out here when I get the chance on the tiger 955i I feel that a smaller 800 would be a great choice , a smaller 800 with shaft drive I think would be a good idea , I know it adds to weight but the benefits are worthwhile.
David Quinn also adds to the cost and efficiency, 2 x 90° bends of the output shaft looses a lot of power. That's why bmw boxer engines and moto guzzi work so well with a shaft.
K800 anyone?
domster200 i'm still hoping for a F850xr.
Glad to see the wheels transitioned to tubeless while retaining the spokes. Secondly, if you're not going to do any off-roading, the Tracer GT is probably a better choice. Less expensive and probably better durability.
Nice review TMF !!! BMW is a top bike . I love my r 1200 gsa 2017 !!!!!!!!!!!
Great review again. I take it you still have to run a separate GPS unit?
I’ve been given one of these for a few days while my f800GT is in with BMW. I must say that after all the reviews I have watched and read, I expected to be blown away by the GS and feel like it’s an upgrade to mine in every way.
compared to mine, the engine is wonderful and the one I have has the nice exhaust, the tft is great, but other than that I miss my bike to be completely honest. Still you have to try these things. I have short legs and the foot pegs are right where I want to put my feet down, something you would accommodate no doubt but unnerving on such a tall machine.
TMF thanks to your review here I’ve just ordered a new 850GS Sport 👍
Enjoy!
Great review, but could you do a review on the BMW 800 GT? I'm after a sports tourer and although I've tested a z1000SX (which is a great bike) However I feel it's 200 cc more than I need or will use. I really enjoy your reviews and I'd appreciate your opinion
As always a fantastic review.
I’d love to see a f 750 gs review as well for comparison!
Also, did they fix the engine problems on these?
What engine problem?
850 - 900 cc is very much the sweet spot in the market. The Goldilocks zone. So many good choices but I am waiting to see the new Moto Guzzi V850 adventure bike. Air Cooled and shaft drive. So much easier to maintain and a much simpler design.
Beautiful bike and beautiful area!
the nicest TFT screen on a motorcycle so far. it's great also to see the implementation of low seat versions.
I agree (on both counts)...
But it costs another £580...
Steve Bolton the low chassis ? Or the rally model?
The TFT screen. It’s called TFT connectivity and costs an extra £595. build-my-bike.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/index_en_GB.html#/configurator/0B09/P0NA5,S06AB/EQUIPMENT
i dont know if its just me or if its just like that but it looks comfortable as hell. tell me if i am wrong.
Don't go much on the lack of wind protection and 15 litre tank also belt drive would be better than chain. Or a smaller 850 boxer needed.
you could of done a walk around of the white van as well :)
☺️☺️
It was too hot to think for the last two days; 37,5°C average.
I just read an article about this new bike in a Dutch motorcycle magazine. They liked it a lot, better than the previous one, especially with the electronic suspension. It's a shame BMW's are so expensive with the extra's that you off course want to buy.
I'll have to wait for a second hand one.
Good to see the dealership. They deserve a bit of publicity. Good bike, sounds good on the vid. Don’t think I could buy a beemer without a boxer.
Agreed. If only they made an 800cc boxer + shaft drive -- I'd get that in a heartbeat (the big GS is too heavy for day to day riding)
The older boxers were 800cc and shaft drive overtime everything seems to get bigger and heavier. The original bike was under 200kg. And had shaft drive and not to much vibration. It's the perfect adventure bike we all crave they made it over 30 years ago.
Spot on Chris, have owned an 80' 80 GS and an 88' GS100... both more agile, and to me considerably lighter too. Would dearly love another GS but, the latest incarnations are just too physically large and cumbersome for little ol' 5 foot 7 me..... Have to admit the new urban GS has got my interest piqued and am considering arranging a test ride.... not sure about the seat though..... Looks ok for short hops but doubt it will be 400 mile days comfortable?
Andy Turner the hp2 enduro was good but they didn't sell well. The f800gs can be better if all the unnecessary stuff is removed. The tea2wine (youtuber) bike looks like a true off road bike.
I have a feeling that we might see a new sub-800cc boxer-shaft when their 100th anniversary comes around
Can you do reviews on white vans? I bought the Tracer GT over the BMW the engine is so smooth & it comes with more extras.
And that triple sounds so good.
Folks, I tried a Tracer and struggled with the gearbox. The up changes didn’t always catch the gear, didn’t engage. It was a problem all the way from 3rd up to 6th. Is that common or did I try a bad bike? I also didn’t like the position of the selector or back brake so might have been a fit problem, maybe adjustable. Just interested to hear your thoughts.
Could explain the soft suspension and nonsoft suspension? I really don't understand what you are talking about. I enjoyed this ride. That bike is nice looking. Stay safe.
I love your review of this bike. Very helpful and informative. Just one thing when you give the price you are quoting the base model. When you add all the extras that the actual bike you are riding has it’s over £13500. Would be very helpful if you included that in your review. Anyway keep up the great reviews.
Yes usual BMW thing - sorry I didn't make that clear.....
👌👌Nice review! Commented on a previous video of yours reviewing the Africa twin saying I was considering it, ridden the Honda but not the gs850 yet! Which did you prefer?
Both great bikes - but for me the BMW has it because it's a bit lower and more manageable plus the electronics are first class - that TFT is the best in the business IMO....
Great review as always MF.
15L seems quite small for an adventure bike fuel tank. That's around 150 miles (uk gal) range. Most others are around the 20L+ ...
Agreed, but I get 60+mpg out of mine which gets me 180-200 miles range, though on to the reserve...
Bobby Z it's probably a packaging thing with the tall parallel twin taking up the space where the fuel tank should be. They should be making a 650 boxer with a 20L+ fuel tank.
AMEN To that!! a 650 boxer. a small displacement boxer would be great and more on the affordable side, even a nice 500cc similar to a r12000r would be great.
Thanks keep up the great work be safe 😀
Great video TMF bike I would consider shame about the screen. You should start TMF stickering all the white vans that do that!
Cheers for the vid TMF the BMW certainly seams a better buy than the tracer gt and definitely looks far better in build quality and looks much nicer than the tiger . I think it's gonna be a big winner for bmw and will be top of the pile .
Watching this while on a tour around New Zealand on the exact bike! Got two of them on loan for 26 days and we are exactly halfway through. Wanted to see if our thoughts/impressions lined up with reviews on UA-cam. The main thing we have discovered is the screen is not good enough. You want to replace the small screen with something bigger as the buffeting we feel is horrendous at 60mph+. Like your head is being rattled off your body. Other than that - the bike is fantastic. With 3 laden boxes per bike, the weight is still manageable and they handle beautifully. Leave it in dynamic mode and it's brilliant on twisty roads. Just feels that BMW deliberately put a crap screen on it to protect the bigger brother bike / upsell...
it is a nice bike to consider with the 900 GT but what let me down is the tank capacity 😑, which if it was 21L at least! otherwise it is great bike, thanks for the great review mr.TMF keep going!
alyus Muse the f850gs adventure should solve that problem it should soon be here
Very nice, and personally favour these adventure touring bikes with the smaller and lighter 800 engines.
I suppose if you ride these bikes in hot countries where they are probably designed to be used on tour, a bit of extra wind blast is greatly appreciated, especially when fully kitted!
Juvenile 😂 why not, yet another great review. I have the 2009 F800gs, which I love, but do find the engine ‘vibey’ at 5000 rpm, how was this? I also noticed no hand guards 🤔 extra? Loved your Scotland trip, me and the old man are doing the west coast next week 👍
The handguards were never standard on the f800gs either
Another nice review. Have you seen Fort 9's latest vid? He explains the single bulb illuminating issue very well (as you often complain about it).
No not seen it yet...will check it out.
Great video. I’m disappointed they changed the fuel tank position but I haven’t tried the new one yet so maybe it’s fine. What equipment are you using to record your audio on your helmet ?
Details in the description...
Thanks so much for the Great content mate!!! How smooth is it on the highway? The 800 did vibrate a tad. How does it compare to the 1200?
No vibes that I noticed at all...
We finely have the 850 gs in the States! Nice ride at open house at Grater Boston Power Sports on Sunday.
My bad Saturday .
Middle class Adv bike with a 21inch wheel: Africa Twin. Costs almost the same but feels bit more mature and it has a bit more power.
With the great advancement in bike display screens and the increase in size I wonder when there will be a satnav built in as standard? Would be a great option especially on bigger touring bikes. Great video and clearly a great bike 👍🏻
I know I don’t get that either...
TheMissendenFlyer you’d think BMW would be leading the way as they already have there own branded satnav from car tech, or you’d think Triumph or KTM would team up with Garmin or TomTom to get a product out there, it would be a massive selling point on a premium bike, but what do we know eh? 🙄
It sort of does - displays a very cut down turn by turn (no map) navigator, which uses your smartphone as the route planner. No where near as good as the separate Nav6 tho, but saves you about £600...
Interesting.....nice review.
I imagine i could buy a bike like this in the future, so many to choose from......
I wonder how it would be loaded up with luggage and a pillion?.......
That’s probably where the 1200 delivers........
Great review... I'm looking to chop in my TRX and this bike is top of my list... just a shame that I will have to buy a screen for touring... not sure what BMW are thinking here....🏍
Dave Youde trx850?
I might buy an F750GS with the factory low suspension and lowest seat option. I might go down a gravel road occasionally, but it would be a street bike. I’m very short and have short arms and I want an upright seating position and great safety features.
hahaha. That white van annoyance. :)
Nice review there mate.
So very many nice toys, so little time. 😊
Hate this screen trend that's going on now, to me they make bikes look cheap and they all now look the same, otherwise it seems like a great machine. The review is top notch as always.
Nice bike, but I can't help but feel it's somewhat contradictory to offer lower suspension option on an adventure bike!
Cuz they made the damn thing too tall for anyone but the 6'2 giants.
860mm seat height... ridiculous. And as a result, they had to reduce the tank capacity to only 15l otherwise it would be too tall AND too top heavy. So on top of that, it's now impractical as well (as an adventure bike).
Geeat video, thank you. Is there a means to mount BMW's OEM satellite navigation in the same manner as your 1200 GS? It looked a bit snug with the TFT screen option.
the sat nav mounts on top of the handlebar mounts - not as good as the 1200 for eye line viewing but still fine, might be tight with a tank bag tho...
Thank you!
At 6.25 you were explaining about the tft and associated gizmos and while you were adjusting something a white car was creeping across from the right, had he not seen you and pulled across I’m not sure if you would have reacted as you where distracted by the 'gizmos'. It's hard enough staying alive on a bike but I really feel strongly that all these modes and gizmos which can distract you are making you / us even more vulnerable.
Mirror check, roll off, cover the brakes. Expect the unexpected. Assume it will pull out and be ready. Defensive riding.
Yes I never noticed that on first view good spot Harry. That car driver was at least aware there was a bike coming but the average car driver would have pulled out there and if as a bike rider your not six cars ahead then you would be knocked off. Take note TMF I think Harry has a good point about being distracted here.
I’m looking forward to the new Yamaha tenere 700 world raid and you reviewing one if you get the chance.
The beema is a nice bike along with the tiger.
TMF, did I see cruise control on this bike? Not on the US website as of yet :(
Wow so tight between this and the tiger 800.
I have the 2019 model same screen and zero buffeting in fact there is no wind felt until you put your hand just above the helmet. I have more buffeting from larger screens on bikes I’ve had over the years. Buffeting to me is making your head move from side to side and the weird wind noise that comes with it. I use Shoei helmets now that might be the difference. Australian roads and freeways.
Bloody van! I'd have moved bike straight away. Nice review tho Miss
Have you met Chris (BVG) ?
He's at Bahnstormer all the time
Hello there, great review of the bike. if you have to compare it with the Rnine T since you have riden both of them (also if you can tell me about f 750 gs i mean is it sooo different than the 850). could please tell me what are the pros and cons. i would like to buy one of these two and i would like to have different opinion... thanks a lot and have a great day
I’m really interested to ride this incarnation of the gs however I’m disappointed to see that the “clever”suspension is actually non adjustable on the front , my other gripe would be that although you could get an alternative screen it will never have adjustment .
Keen on getting this bike when it becomes available in SA(Probably Jan 2019),tks.
Good review thank you. If it was your money, is it worth paying the extra for R1250GS?
Yes or get a second hand R1200GS - the new 850 is a lovely bike but feels very heavy in comparison due to it's high centre of gravity...
Great review as always. However I have one question left, how would you compare it to Honda Africa Twin?
Better tech, lower....both great bikes though.
Another great review TMF - but my one complaint is that you keep adding to my list of possible next bikes rather infuriatingly, and there are just simply too many great bikes for my little garage. I'd like to have seen a shaft drive on this though - and then it would be practically perfect in every way.
1st world problems eh?
Shame they ditched the under seat tank, was useful having filler on side panel when loaded up with luggage.